Asking a Hollywood trainer if his clients and potential clients are on steroids is like asking a lawyer if his clients are guilty. Mike, of course, he's going to deny it.
True , this whole conversation itself is pointless . Nobody wants a lawsuit on them . Trying too hard to portay a clean image of being a celebrity trainer
Dude says he wants bloodwork on his clients, then goes into how one had a heart attack and needed a stent. I mean... I could see high cholesterol being an issue, but what in someone's bloodwork shows signs of an impending heart attack? I genuinely want to know. Otherwise, he's FOS.
Agreed. Don't blame him but the ignorance defence works agains him. Even if he didn't use them, why wouldn't he know about them. A hobbyist mechanic may not know how to pull apart an F1 engine BUT sure as hell knows what fuel it takes.
Dr Mike did TRY to get some more detailed answers, like when he asked" what does opening the floodgates actually look like" and the answer was simply "people call me"
Asking a celebrity trainer if his clients are on steroids is like asking if he wants to pull the plug on his career. I don't even fault him for giving a bullshit answer, he has nothing to gain and literally everything to lose. And besides, we already know the answer.
Real response. He was cagey about that, but he did kind of mention it, at least obliquely. and it basically boiled down to: "we do a health panel, just bullshit people and tell them your test was low"
Its like a few years ago when the MLB had the steroid scandal and all the athletes were like "oh we had know idea we were just going to a health clinic. " And then they just sorta swept it under the rug
@@samwroblewski748 Yes the work is lucrative but the fucking question was how did he get the funds to open a private gym in New York with a 15 year lease in the first place?
@@claytonmutchman4527Same thing here! And for me, I feel it’s mainly because he likes to talk about himself a little bit too much. Are you feeling the same? Peace!🙂
Especially when he started talking about his saunas and cold plunges. You probably get your testosterone levels checked regularly even though you’re not on TRT too, right? 😂
@@michaelm9710 Right?? I get having them checked once or twice a year just to make sure everything is fine but most people on a fitness journey don't know their test levels like it's their mother's maiden name.
Did you also want an entire class in business? You go to a bank, get a loan. Do you also want to know how to create a proposal and how to put up capitol for the loan? GO BACK TO SCHOOL
@@TheBeezNeezGaming I am sorry about your parents. Anyways - Capital can refer to uppercase letters, accumulated wealth, or the city that serves as the seat of a country's or state's government. A capitol is a building in which the legislative body of government meets. In the United States, the Capitol is a building in Washington in which the US Congress meets. GO BACK TO SCHOOL
I’m laughing at the intro based on Dr Mike’s long history of destroying celebrity workouts, celebrity trainers, and the whole celebrity fitness situation
The trainer for Hugh Jackman, one of the world's most visible steroid users, "doesn't know that much" about steroids. Sure, sure. I get why Dr. Mike didn't ask any direct questions to this guy but that's a ridiculous statement.
@@BJahoda He said for Wolverine and Australia, not X-Men 1. Given that Australia came out in 2008 and X-Men Origins: Wolverine was 2009, I'm guessing he meant the origins movie, not the 2013 "The Wolverine". Hugh wasn't very big in X2 either. It was during the timeframe when this guy says he trained him that he basically doubled in size. He was super jacked in Australia as well.
Hugh Jackman is also 6’3 190-205. If anyone thinks that’s unnatural you’re delusional. He’s not that strong, he doesn’t have a tremendous amount of mass…he’s just shredded. It’s not that hard to get shredded if you know what you’re doing.
The deadlift thing is not actually that impressive. Maybe for the average person but not for a serious, super experienced lifter. Have to account for the fact he's been training hard consistently for 20+ years, and is rich. He can afford the best quality food, supplements, doctors, physical therpists, massages, and all the best cutting edge fitness equipment and fitness related modalities. Do that for that long and anybody can hit that deadlift
@@AnthonyA-t8f430 isn't that impressive but 20 reps though? i'm not saying it's impossible but the world record for 405 is/was like 50 reps so 430 for 20 seems pretty wild. Happy to eat my words if it is there is a video floating around.
Yeah not a lot about this. Just nebulous " Drs" and "creatine". I don't know anyone that randomly takes bloods. During the conversation, he brings up Chris Hemsworth as a "this guy has trained for a long time" sidestory. Amazing.
@@wesleylang172 He was talking about creatine when he was talking about Ryan Reynolds, who is imo unlikely juicing. The fact that he doens't know anything about steroids can 100% be true. Obviously he knows some of his clients are juicing but that doesnt mean he is involved in that aspect. He is a coach. Also when Mike brought up steroids I kinda feel like he had this "I cant really talk about this, but I know what you're trying to say" energy
@@wesleylang172had a good laugh to consider Chris hemsworth never had any background with athletics other than having a modeling career before acting. Than here’s the fact that he gained a godlike physique in his late 30s while his prime he’s just, tall and normal physique. Trained for a long time is the dumbest someone can ever say without being specific. No matter how long you’ve trained you don’t get an Arnold physique naturally nor build muscles with that mass and be toned within a year without enhancement
This guy seems really shady. The way he overreacts to more stressful questions shows that he's likely hiding something, the way he embellishes his speech and the way he moves while he's doing it. I had to stop the video because it just seems like he's talking a bunch of bs.
He's a bullshitter. He's was handed daddy's money to start gyms and then got lucky his buddy knew Hugh Jackman and passed him off to him. I'm sure he's an OK trainer(not saying much considering most trainers are shit) but he's probably worried that Mike would go in depth on actual training. He would be exposed as mediocre, lucky Mike was more focused on the topic of the celebrity training industry itself instead of actual training.
he SCREAMS "im from LA". Everything about him screams industry... especially the way he speaks twice as loudly as Dr Mike during the whole thing, despite being mic'd.
Lol, armchair psychologist and body language expert. You know that even 'experts' in detecting lies don't perform much better than chance, right? It's a pseudoscience. You have zero idea whether he's hiding something.
Stopped watching as soon as the dude says he doesn't know anything about steroids. Claims that Ryan Reynolds uses Glutamine and BCAAs "when needed". Some right bullshit being spouted here.
I stopped watching when this dude said the most in shape guy from 300 would place dead last in a natural body building contest. Like, come on those dudes had great physiques. It's why they're all shirtless instead of wearing historically accurate chest plates for armour.
Yes, but remember he trains people not just for hypertrophy. KB swings are GREAT at burning calories. They just aren’t great if your goal is purely hypertrophy.
Right? Why is this guy having his testosterone tested if he’s not on TRT? Because he wants to know whether his cold plunges and “micro” counting work? Doesn’t make sense.
Not every trainer knows about roids. I’ve been a trainer since the late 90’s, I’ve never done them, only 2 people have asked me about them (not to get them but just asked about them), I’ve been accused, especially in my younger years of being on them (never have). I know of names of the most popular ones but could never give people advice on them of how to take or come off and I don’t know how to get them…but I’ve trained plenty of jacked people.
This guy is geekin rn lol the nose wipes, the knee grasping, the deep inhales, the off camera peeking… dude is either off a key, 4 energy drinks in the belly, or just prepping for the next BS line every second, orrrrrr a noice combo of the 3 😂😂😂
@@User-54631 If i knew who you were personally, i would bet you my life savings I could inject a gram of test a week and eat mcdonalds and win a BB competition. Once youre blasting synthetic test or on some kind of other anabolic, all you gotta do is track macros and bust ass in the gym and you will be 260 with an 8 pack. I'm lifetime natural and i am 245 at 6'2 with a 6pack and I eat fastfood sometimes twice a week, sometimes more. You people are brainwashed about steroids, thinking they arent as powerful as they really are.
This is one of the best interviews I've ever seen (and I've seen a lot of them) for the simple fact that he _constantly_ asked for the connective tissue between the thing the interviewee glossed over. So many interviewees, even if not consciously, bounce around topics. The "Exercise Scientist" constantly interrupts the trainer, in a absolutely perfect way, and makes him explain how he got from point A to point B. Most interviewers would just ignore those gaps. Truly refreshing for the interviewer to be like, "wait a second, how did you go from training golfers to celebrities?" and similar.
@@BourbonondaBayouor sylvester stallone when asked if he used gear during Rocky, if I remember correctly he said "did you see me in that movie? Use your head" lol
I’m a trainer who co-owns a coaching company in the Northshore of Chicago, AKA the higher profile area income-wise. And pretty much all success in this business is through word of mouth, regardless of absolute knowledge in this field
He is right about the celebrity trainer thing in terms of how you become one. It's the same thing when a martial arts place claims they "train law enforcement". That is a cop came to your gym and purchased self defense lessons, so you technically trained law enforcement and you are free to advertise that.
Don't forget, Marvel movies are marketed as being wholesome entertainment your kids can watch. No one wants their kids imitating their favourite actor by doing steroids. The studio stands a lot to lose by admitting it.
Not if they are prescribed by a doctor, which is what all the celebs do. Just look at alan ritchson, guy claims he's on TRT but his doctors got him on a massive dose that no human naturally has.
Younever fail to besoinformative even after all these years posting knowledge, we still learn much and much from you Mike. Ive told you before and ill say it again: To me, there are no better teachers than you. The approach, the laughing, the tone of the voice and everything you say, the directions you take to teach us and you also take your time... Man, you are an incredible guy. I wish we would hang out, last time you were in Montreal you were so busy with Atlantis, ill come over to the Atlantis gym with you just lemme know! I want pain, i want gain, i wanna get yelled at for another rep, i wanna push along with my idols. You and Jared are my role models *You for the brains, Jared for the Brown chicks*
I'm sure a lot of things that makes people say "Wtf is this trainer doing" may sometimes come down to the fact that these trainers are often dealing with super eccentric people and actors, who just think they know better, don't actually want to be told what to do, or just dont't wanna work hard at all in the gym (The Kardashian "workout" comes to mind) Also a bunch of actors who are ripped previously stated they have no desire for the sport or fun in it and only see it as a job/must. I'm sure that's a factor too
Everytime I watch one of your videos I am AMAZED by how fresh, honest and salient your information is. You, sir, are slowly debunking the internet. Well done.
Mine are over 1100 at 48, all natural. I get a lot of sun, my diet is on point every single day, my micronutrient regimen is dialed in, lots of walking and lifting, good sleep, rarely drink alcohol, etc.
The fact that he said it increased 300 points in the past year due to things like being more calm and doing cold plunges is even more comical. I WISH!!!
Mike has said in the past that he doesn't like to be confrontational in front of a person. Look at the Seedman videos, polite during the interview and rip him apart in the follow up video
I get up at 4AM pretty much every day and work out in my basement ( in my underwear Dr. Mike! ). Primarily use KBs, body weight workouts, and a dip bar. Turned 48 yesterday, drink way to much, go to bed around 9-10 most nights. Also do yoga occasionally, but my cardio is horrible. Think I’m in the best shape of my life and only getting better. My trainers are 2 free channels on UA-cam ( both with certified trainers ). Plus I have to be at work by 6:30AM usually and have a child. I workout for mental and physical reasons and have never loved life more. I’ll never be “stage worthy “, but damn I’m looking and feeling good! Love you long time Dr. Mike.
I once saw Hugh Jackman on a UK chat show where mentioned he hated getting fit for a role. I think he hinted that was the reason he was glad he wasn't doing XMen anymore. Its been a while for him but now he's on Deadpool 3. Possibly his last role that requires a jacked physique.
Thor has real coaches, yes he is on some shit but he also is a real strength athletes, last coach Thor had was an aussie I think has a total over 900kg in powerlifting, there is no way this guy is good enough to teach thor of anything, he is not even good enough to teach this channel's audiences.
Alan Ritchson said in an interview that he was taking a lot of ibuprofen during training for the first season of Reacher and that crushed his test level. He then did hrt to bring his levels back up.
Yeah but his doctor has him on much higher testosterone levels than a natural person so he's doing more than just bringing levels back up to normal on trt
Well assume you have a business doing that would you openly admit to I'm assuming breaking a law and getting the reputation for not being trusted by your clients, not saying your wrong
Very very well done interview. These are questions I've always wondered and always got frustrated when people gave vague answers in interviews. I so appreciate Dr. Mike being SO SPECIFIC and unapologetic about his questions.
So, hes either lying about the gear, the gear is being used outside of his knowledge....or somehow all the hollywood actors just magically have 98th percentile genetics. So much of this was just rambling about diet and lifestyle when they full and well know thats not the difference. Nor is it the effort. The timelines just arent feasible. 3-6 months for most of them? Dont insult our intelligence. They have transformations that dedicated lifters dont see after training for their FIRST several YEARS even with the perfect training, lifesytle and nutrition. And dont even get me started on the "its the lighting and camera angles" nonsense like we dont have eyes.
There's definitely a shit ton of people on gear, but I think you sarcastically brought up a good point that a lot of people don't consider. "Somehow all the Hollywood actors just magically have 98th percentile genetics"-doesn't that... kinda make sense that that would be true? Millions of people flock to Hollywood to try to make it big, and then Hollywood gets to winnow that down to the best of the best. Since they're selecting for good looks and fitness is a huge part of good looks, it follows that you're incidentally selecting for good fitness genes.
@@bryanlewis5233 except that most of these actors were selected before they had any physiques whatsoever. You can't select for a trait that's not observable. It'd be like trying to crossbreed roses for a particular color but none of them have ever flowered before.....so you can't know what color they are to even attempt to breed a new one. In the same way prettymuch all of the Hollywood fitness actors today did not look like anything when they became famous except the Rock. Hugh Jackman had a Dad-bod in the first X-men movies. Kumail Nanjiani in his older movie roles was a stereotypical nerd build that has never set foot in a gym. Et cetera and so on. They were all average to even below average before they suddenly blew up in almost no time at all.
Why would you shoot yourself in the foot in a reputation business? The amount of people shocked he didn't throw his clients under the bus when PEDs are a federally controlled substance
@@taylorhillard4868 Right, but you just mentioned the people that are 100% obviously geared to the gills. No argument from me there. But that doesn't mean the Hollywood system doesn't also naturally select for good genes. I'm absolutely not trying to cover up or deny that gear is RAMPANT in Hollywood, just trying to argue that maybe it's not so crazy to think famous celebs are in fact high percentile for genetic predisposition to fitness because they literally work in a field where people are selected for their desirable qualities like they're dogs being bred. Maybe we're talking past each other a bit. It seems like you're mostly talking about the Marvel types who are making these wildly unnatural transformations (and I totally agree that's 99.999% down to gear) whereas I'm talking a little more generally (and I'm not arguing the people you're mentioning are the ONLY people on gear either). Ultimately I think we're both on the same side that it's silly for normies to try to use Hollywood training as some sort of model to aspire to because it's not accounting for the other massive advantages these people have-certainly gear but also money, time, and (I'd argue) good genetics-that aren't being talked about in whatever random shit Men's Health is trying to get trending this week.
Even at 15 reps that's an estimated 645 1rm. If people think this dude can DL 645 at this bw while "natty", I have beachfront property in Arizona to sell them
@@--SPQR-- At that many reps a 1RM calculator is going to be pretty inaccurate, so 645 is definitely not his 1RM. To his credit he looks built to deadlift and he's on the skinnier side, so 430 for a lot of reps may not be too much of an exaggeration. Especially if he focuses on the deadlift the most, as many skinny guys do, because it's the only lift they're naturally good at. Has California finally broken off, leaving a cool refreshing breeze rolling in over Arizona Bay?
I really appreciate the portion where he spoke about the obese clients with whom he is working for years to make a lasting progress. About a year ago, I was 450 lbs, after about 300 days I began to plateau at around 385 with just intermittent fasting, so I began powerlifting (because I enjoy it and I have the requisite equipment in my garage). I'm still around 385 but I am much stronger and my measurements are going down. It is frustrating to not see the weight loss but it helps to see and feel the strength increases. It's also nice to know that slow progress is still good progress. That really helps. Thank you.
Great interview! Enjoyed hearing how some of these guys train while traveling and on location. Just goes to show how hard many of these celebrities are working behind the scenes. The stuff no one actually sees.
When he talked about "functional medicine" and listed some names I nearly tuned out completely... Once he mentioned that Westside barbell cult member and conman whinning i was done.
As a performer, the things hes saying are a good reminder that your lifting goals need to match what you need them for. The risk for going after a one rep max outweights the benefits most of the time.
Nobody thinks the studio provides doctors or steroids or specific trainers, absolutely no one. They know there is a required look for whatever the role may be and will achieve that through their own doctors.
I'm not one of them, but I have seen several people who think big studios like Marvel have doctor on the payroll for this kind of thing. The actors finding their trainers through word of mouth makes more sense, but with how controlling studios can be it's not unreasonable to assume they handle that as well.
The studio doesn't literally provide them with a guy, but they do have the contacts for guys who and give them gains they need to make that sure don't look natty.
Dr Mike love the content on your channel-one thing I’d love it if you could cover with a short episode-how do lifting mechanics differ based on lever size ie do certain exercises hit taller and shorter people differently? are taller athletes more subject to lifting injuries? I know you’re 7’8" but some of us shorter 6’6” lifters (yours truly) would love to hear your thoughts on the subject. Thanks for all the work you do (and for keeping it so entertaining)!
"I dont need lube I'm actually wet enough already" 😂😂😂😂how does Mike sit next to people he's just met and be the fullest version of himself so effortlessly?! Youre my idol sir.
That was one of my favorite episodes I like the breakdown of the process and something clicked when you talked about the actor getting in shape in two weeks, and the idea that there was no time to dial in the metrics around the macros
22:49 This directly contradicts what Dr Mike harps on when he’s reviewing the celebrity training videos and they’re talking about functionality and athleticism. He’s been adamant that actors purely just need to look big and jacked for their roles, which is mostly true while the cameras are rolling. But if they have tons of stunts and action stuff they’re not used to, it helps to be able to move, too. These actors are just grown up theater geeks after all. Found that interesting.
Mike, bro, this is one of the best channels for training. It's so good that motivation is no longer an issue for me; my only problem is with those eccentric movements 😂.
Dr. Mike looks like he’s balancing a ball on his head during this interview
Great interview though
I really enjoyed it
😅😅😅
Who says he isn’t?
😂😂 Thanks for pointing that out.. Now I can't unsee it..
You’re welcome
Asking a Hollywood trainer if his clients and potential clients are on steroids is like asking a lawyer if his clients are guilty. Mike, of course, he's going to deny it.
True , this whole conversation itself is pointless . Nobody wants a lawsuit on them . Trying too hard to portay a clean image of being a celebrity trainer
Dude says he wants bloodwork on his clients, then goes into how one had a heart attack and needed a stent.
I mean... I could see high cholesterol being an issue, but what in someone's bloodwork shows signs of an impending heart attack? I genuinely want to know. Otherwise, he's FOS.
Was literally pointless of Mike to indulge this nonsense.
@@nicholastotoro7721troponin levels
Agreed. Don't blame him but the ignorance defence works agains him. Even if he didn't use them, why wouldn't he know about them. A hobbyist mechanic may not know how to pull apart an F1 engine BUT sure as hell knows what fuel it takes.
I enjoyed seeing the difference in how a PhD in exercise science speaks about health/fitness and how a celebrity trainer speaks about it.
Dr Mike did TRY to get some more detailed answers, like when he asked" what does opening the floodgates actually look like" and the answer was simply "people call me"
Calmly vs loudly
So he opened 4 gyms in the most expensive city in the US at just 20 years old?? You mean his parents right ?
The classic I worked for everything I have... And a few million from my parents helped
lol like Amazon being an online used book store till the 500mill CIA cash injection
Classic New Yorker. Family money.
@@rhetorical1488 😂
It's the classic Donald Trump/Elon Musk defence. "I worked for everything I have, minus a couple small loans of millions of dollars from my dad!".
"We need his shoulders and arms bigger in two weeks." - "Do me a favor, STFU." 🤣
Asking a celebrity trainer if his clients are on steroids is like asking if he wants to pull the plug on his career. I don't even fault him for giving a bullshit answer, he has nothing to gain and literally everything to lose. And besides, we already know the answer.
Real response. He was cagey about that, but he did kind of mention it, at least obliquely. and it basically boiled down to:
"we do a health panel, just bullshit people and tell them your test was low"
no blame, but makes the interview a bit pointless. he's beating so much around so many bushes I've zoned out a few times.
"Deadlifting 450 is good... for an actor"
Bro didn't have to do me like that
He means not a professional lifter
You can get there bro
lol
@ULTRAOutdoorsman I mean, it is
@ULTRAOutdoorsman its only a deadlift if i hunch down and wrap my ballsack around the bar and lift it that way. anything else is gay and cheating
Fair enough, he just trains celebrities. He doesn't supply them with steroids or lead their PEDs programms. But doctors and clinics do...
That was what I took away too. His clients have doctors that can prescribe that stuff. They don’t need him for their gear.
Its like a few years ago when the MLB had the steroid scandal and all the athletes were like "oh we had know idea we were just going to a health clinic. " And then they just sorta swept it under the rug
He also says he has a team including doctors...
this guy isnt an honest narrator though.
He said he gets the “team” together
So cool to watch a guy with rich parents lie to Mike for 45 minutes!! Please get this dude back on!
I’m interested….who are his parents?
@@User-54631 the guy opened like six gyms in NYC and LA you think he got a bank loan for that 😂
@@MrCk1234567890 and did they close? He targeted folks with $$$ and was successful. Only need to leverage that success once
Don't think training rich people is lucrative? Go ask trainers who specialize in equestrian and sailing how much they're pulling a month
@@samwroblewski748 Yes the work is lucrative but the fucking question was how did he get the funds to open a private gym in New York with a 15 year lease in the first place?
This guy says alot without anything being said at all..
He could get into politics
@@claytonmutchman4527Same thing here!
And for me, I feel it’s mainly because he likes to talk about himself a little bit too much. Are you feeling the same? Peace!🙂
I thought i was the only one jajaja pointless video.
Exactly. Like either a politician or a lawyer pretty much. I knew it within the first 5 seconds of his first answer.
Listening to this guy on the podcast a year ago was a very frustrating experience.
IT WAS JUST THE CHICKEN , BROCCOLI AND RICE MAN.
And a personal trainer
and Smarms
And 6 workouts a week😂😂😂
Especially when he started talking about his saunas and cold plunges. You probably get your testosterone levels checked regularly even though you’re not on TRT too, right? 😂
@@michaelm9710 Right?? I get having them checked once or twice a year just to make sure everything is fine but most people on a fitness journey don't know their test levels like it's their mother's maiden name.
“Tell the viewers how you got started”
“I started by first opening two gyms in New York City”
I think you missed a couple of steps there.
He had to start with "I was born at a very young age"
Did you also want an entire class in business? You go to a bank, get a loan. Do you also want to know how to create a proposal and how to put up capitol for the loan? GO BACK TO SCHOOL
@@TheBeezNeezGaming I am sorry about your parents. Anyways - Capital can refer to uppercase letters, accumulated wealth, or the city that serves as the seat of a country's or state's government. A capitol is a building in which the legislative body of government meets. In the United States, the Capitol is a building in Washington in which the US Congress meets. GO BACK TO SCHOOL
@@TreCayUltimateLife *Anyway
Since we are being pedantic.
You smell that? Yup...it's a big pile of bs. Props to Mike for trying though.
See that sweater? "This video brought to you by Pfizer."
yeah, this guy is not an honest narrator
@@frankmc5112omfg not Travis swift 😂😂
@@frankmc5112 it was nice of china to help make all those western pharma companies a few extra million
It's cool you got Ryan Reynolds' dad on
😂
Hahaha 😂
Ryan's older. :)
😂 I thought it was him at first
They're the same age. Ryan might look a little younger tho, but not much.
I’m laughing at the intro based on Dr Mike’s long history of destroying celebrity workouts, celebrity trainers, and the whole celebrity fitness situation
This video should have been titled
- Dr Mikes quest for Lambos
You got it. He's putting up with the bs in hopes of getting a foot in the door
@@--SPQR--He’s an Akanazi Jew, his foot is well in the door
That's exactly what I was thinking the whole interview
He’s only been interviewing Jews for the entire time he’s been on UA-cam
Dr Mike finally got to Hollywood
My local gym costs 250 dollars for an entire year.
That´s 125 dollars per visit. Not a great deal. 😑😑😑
🤣🤣🤣🤣
You pay $20 a month? Is it only a weight room they got? They have basketball courts? Swimming pools?
Mine serves alcohol and draft beer while you lift.
The trainer for Hugh Jackman, one of the world's most visible steroid users, "doesn't know that much" about steroids. Sure, sure. I get why Dr. Mike didn't ask any direct questions to this guy but that's a ridiculous statement.
Yeah I was curious if he was gonna get into it and clearly didn't. Trying to say people need to own it, lol okay.
He trained hugh for the first xmen movie, hugh looked like shit in that movie and got on gear for x2
@@BJahoda He said for Wolverine and Australia, not X-Men 1. Given that Australia came out in 2008 and X-Men Origins: Wolverine was 2009, I'm guessing he meant the origins movie, not the 2013 "The Wolverine". Hugh wasn't very big in X2 either. It was during the timeframe when this guy says he trained him that he basically doubled in size. He was super jacked in Australia as well.
Hugh was like 6’1” 185. He was never big at all. He just looked big on screen because he was lean.
Hugh Jackman is also 6’3 190-205.
If anyone thinks that’s unnatural you’re delusional. He’s not that strong, he doesn’t have a tremendous amount of mass…he’s just shredded.
It’s not that hard to get shredded if you know what you’re doing.
Standard Hollywood response about steroids, “don’t know much about em.” Also can we see the 20 reps of 430 deadlift on video?
The deadlift thing is not actually that impressive. Maybe for the average person but not for a serious, super experienced lifter. Have to account for the fact he's been training hard consistently for 20+ years, and is rich. He can afford the best quality food, supplements, doctors, physical therpists, massages, and all the best cutting edge fitness equipment and fitness related modalities. Do that for that long and anybody can hit that deadlift
bro I could do like 10 reps at 430 right now and I'm not even really deadlifting much these days.
@@AnthonyA-t8f430 isn't that impressive but 20 reps though? i'm not saying it's impossible but the world record for 405 is/was like 50 reps so 430 for 20 seems pretty wild. Happy to eat my words if it is there is a video floating around.
@@AnthonyA-t8f
Absolutely delusional.
Yeah I don’t think it’s that crazy either.
So, you say the "truth about steroids in Hollywood" and yet...
Yeah not a lot about this. Just nebulous " Drs" and "creatine".
I don't know anyone that randomly takes bloods.
During the conversation, he brings up Chris Hemsworth as a "this guy has trained for a long time" sidestory.
Amazing.
@@wesleylang172 He was talking about creatine when he was talking about Ryan Reynolds, who is imo unlikely juicing. The fact that he doens't know anything about steroids can 100% be true. Obviously he knows some of his clients are juicing but that doesnt mean he is involved in that aspect. He is a coach. Also when Mike brought up steroids I kinda feel like he had this "I cant really talk about this, but I know what you're trying to say" energy
@@wesleylang172had a good laugh to consider Chris hemsworth never had any background with athletics other than having a modeling career before acting. Than here’s the fact that he gained a godlike physique in his late 30s while his prime he’s just, tall and normal physique. Trained for a long time is the dumbest someone can ever say without being specific. No matter how long you’ve trained you don’t get an Arnold physique naturally nor build muscles with that mass and be toned within a year without enhancement
Yeah, I'm not sure what this conversation had to do with steroids. I would have to say click bait.
@@dendrien Not time to watch this but did the bald guy say that Hemsworth didnt take streoids?
This guy seems really shady. The way he overreacts to more stressful questions shows that he's likely hiding something, the way he embellishes his speech and the way he moves while he's doing it. I had to stop the video because it just seems like he's talking a bunch of bs.
He's a bullshitter. He's was handed daddy's money to start gyms and then got lucky his buddy knew Hugh Jackman and passed him off to him. I'm sure he's an OK trainer(not saying much considering most trainers are shit) but he's probably worried that Mike would go in depth on actual training. He would be exposed as mediocre, lucky Mike was more focused on the topic of the celebrity training industry itself instead of actual training.
It is not his fault ok? He is from NY
he SCREAMS "im from LA". Everything about him screams industry... especially the way he speaks twice as loudly as Dr Mike during the whole thing, despite being mic'd.
Lol, armchair psychologist and body language expert. You know that even 'experts' in detecting lies don't perform much better than chance, right? It's a pseudoscience. You have zero idea whether he's hiding something.
Yeah plus him touching his nose repeadetelu like after doing cola in the bathroom😎
Stopped watching as soon as the dude says he doesn't know anything about steroids. Claims that Ryan Reynolds uses Glutamine and BCAAs "when needed". Some right bullshit being spouted here.
I stopped watching when this dude said the most in shape guy from 300 would place dead last in a natural body building contest. Like, come on those dudes had great physiques. It's why they're all shirtless instead of wearing historically accurate chest plates for armour.
I stopped watching when he claimed Ryan Reynolds and Ryan Gosling were two different people.
@@BungieStudios 🤣🤣🤣
Why is he lying? Ryan’s not a big guy, he’s very lean. If he’d of said the rock or mike o tren then sure. But Ryan’s gotta be a buck 70 soaking wet.
"Im natural but have blood values of 930". Sure you do, buddy LMAO 🤡
So glad I watched this start to finish. Honest, no fluff, quality answers.
I see what you did there
I like how Mike has this non confrontational interview style.
Interesting & informative. Thanks!
Everytime he mentions swinging a Kettlebell i smile as i know what Dr. Mike would say if he was reviewing this.
Yes, but remember he trains people not just for hypertrophy. KB swings are GREAT at burning calories. They just aren’t great if your goal is purely hypertrophy.
They are a great exercise, Stuart McGill big proponent of them too
Man, I could listen you guys for at least another hour. Great piece.
He demands all his actors have "Blood-work done" and doesn't know about steroids, I call bull, this guys test lvl is over 900, lol
Facts lol
Ok? Mine was over 1200 at 42.
When you do enough things right, natural T levels can be easily over 1100, even in late 40s (like me)
100% I was about to comment the same thing.
@@CameronDayDYTyeah like doing TRT
He claims natural but buddy sounds like he took about 5 lines of cocaine before coming onto this podcast.
Right? Why is this guy having his testosterone tested if he’s not on TRT? Because he wants to know whether his cold plunges and “micro” counting work? Doesn’t make sense.
He's just average level New Yorker. Maybe even chill for one
The dry snorts lol
@@michaelm9710uhhh, same reason I do for every year since I was 23? Same reason why anyone does it? To monitor it?
Why not? When you're rich and healthy exams cost nothing to you, wouldn't you get your test levels checked once every couple of years?@@michaelm9710
Was glute spreading this whole video Mike ❤️
Ayo ? 🤣
Glad I'm not the only one
Sounds like you went all in
Calling BS on this. Dude is clearly protecting himself by playing dumb about roids in the space.
No shit Sherlock. Mike brought up the steroid question on another video and why it's acceptable to lie about it
Not every trainer knows about roids. I’ve been a trainer since the late 90’s, I’ve never done them, only 2 people have asked me about them (not to get them but just asked about them), I’ve been accused, especially in my younger years of being on them (never have). I know of names of the most popular ones but could never give people advice on them of how to take or come off and I don’t know how to get them…but I’ve trained plenty of jacked people.
@biofixphysicaltherapy5353 Basically your job depends on you being dumb?
Lol this is literally Dr Mike taking notes so that he can compete with him for Hollywood clients 😂
This guy is geekin rn lol the nose wipes, the knee grasping, the deep inhales, the off camera peeking… dude is either off a key, 4 energy drinks in the belly, or just prepping for the next BS line every second, orrrrrr a noice combo of the 3 😂😂😂
Yeah hes a proper wrongun
I noticed the nose thing RIGHT AWAY!! It's abnormal. And it took me too long to find your comment! How does nobody else notice this behavior?!
Did he just say celebrities get shredded from BCAA and Glutamine?🤣
Chicken and broccoli….
That’s right….cause all you do is steroids and eat McDonald’s and you get jacked.
Yup, pure fucking BS
@@User-54631 Excuse me sir it's called a power bloat
@@User-54631 If i knew who you were personally, i would bet you my life savings I could inject a gram of test a week and eat mcdonalds and win a BB competition. Once youre blasting synthetic test or on some kind of other anabolic, all you gotta do is track macros and bust ass in the gym and you will be 260 with an 8 pack. I'm lifetime natural and i am 245 at 6'2 with a 6pack and I eat fastfood sometimes twice a week, sometimes more.
You people are brainwashed about steroids, thinking they arent as powerful as they really are.
This is one of the best interviews I've ever seen (and I've seen a lot of them) for the simple fact that he _constantly_ asked for the connective tissue between the thing the interviewee glossed over. So many interviewees, even if not consciously, bounce around topics.
The "Exercise Scientist" constantly interrupts the trainer, in a absolutely perfect way, and makes him explain how he got from point A to point B. Most interviewers would just ignore those gaps.
Truly refreshing for the interviewer to be like, "wait a second, how did you go from training golfers to celebrities?" and similar.
The best response to being asked if you are taking anything is still the Markus Rühl interview.
What was his response?
@@mattb4251tested athlete
@@mattb4251 get to the choppa!
My favorite ever was Tom Prince, “look at me!”
@@BourbonondaBayouor sylvester stallone when asked if he used gear during Rocky, if I remember correctly he said "did you see me in that movie? Use your head" lol
I’m a trainer who co-owns a coaching company in the Northshore of Chicago, AKA the higher profile area income-wise. And pretty much all success in this business is through word of mouth, regardless of absolute knowledge in this field
The part on loading the spine surrounding travel is so key and i needed to hear it
He is right about the celebrity trainer thing in terms of how you become one. It's the same thing when a martial arts place claims they "train law enforcement". That is a cop came to your gym and purchased self defense lessons, so you technically trained law enforcement and you are free to advertise that.
Or "works with spec ops" 🤣
@@DarthNoshitam Haha, I have never seen this one, but I totally agree.
@@DarthNoshitam IE this one special forces candidate trained at my gym for some studio space once.
Using Steroids can get you into criminal trouble in the US. So of course this guy will say his guys don't use
Don't forget, Marvel movies are marketed as being wholesome entertainment your kids can watch. No one wants their kids imitating their favourite actor by doing steroids. The studio stands a lot to lose by admitting it.
Not if they are prescribed by a doctor, which is what all the celebs do. Just look at alan ritchson, guy claims he's on TRT but his doctors got him on a massive dose that no human naturally has.
Younever fail to besoinformative even after all these years posting knowledge, we still learn much and much from you Mike. Ive told you before and ill say it again:
To me, there are no better teachers than you. The approach, the laughing, the tone of the voice and everything you say, the directions you take to teach us and you also take your time... Man, you are an incredible guy. I wish we would hang out, last time you were in Montreal you were so busy with Atlantis, ill come over to the Atlantis gym with you just lemme know!
I want pain, i want gain, i wanna get yelled at for another rep, i wanna push along with my idols. You and Jared are my role models *You for the brains, Jared for the Brown chicks*
Ive been trained to react negatively to the name "Saladino". This dude is dope
This is not the "Sauna is the same as eating vegetables guy"?
I'm sure a lot of things that makes people say "Wtf is this trainer doing" may sometimes come down to the fact that these trainers are often dealing with super eccentric people and actors, who just think they know better, don't actually want to be told what to do, or just dont't wanna work hard at all in the gym (The Kardashian "workout" comes to mind)
Also a bunch of actors who are ripped previously stated they have no desire for the sport or fun in it and only see it as a job/must. I'm sure that's a factor too
The carnivore guy!? 😂😂😂
@@freddym6643 It's the "see the crap they put in children's hospitals???" guy if I'm not mistaken
Ah I didn't get you were talking about the other Saladino lol
Everytime I watch one of your videos I am AMAZED by how fresh, honest and salient your information is. You, sir, are slowly debunking the internet. Well done.
until you go to the comment section where half the people are disagreeing with their anecdotal evidence lmao
Yeah he doesn't want to give up his customers who are pretty much all on gear.
Mmmmhmmmm
I guess part of being a celebrity trainer is privacy, going out and saying some are on gear is a good way of killing his business.
I can believe that Sebastian Stan was a natty .
T levels over 900 at almost 50 years old, naturally, of course.
430 for 20, just a specimen of a man
Mine are over 1100 at 48, all natural. I get a lot of sun, my diet is on point every single day, my micronutrient regimen is dialed in, lots of walking and lifting, good sleep, rarely drink alcohol, etc.
The fact that he said it increased 300 points in the past year due to things like being more calm and doing cold plunges is even more comical. I WISH!!!
@@otgod6694bro said he gets lots of sunshine, of course 😂.
@otgod6694 Yes it is. My D3 levels were also at the top of the range, and I never supplement it. Sun only
This was a great interview, nice change of pace too!
Dr. Mike seems like he’s thinking, ‘Hold my protein shake, I'll show you how training is done!’
The bullshit detector went off for like an hour straight. Love you Dr. Mike but your channel is too good for this.
Mike has said in the past that he doesn't like to be confrontational in front of a person. Look at the Seedman videos, polite during the interview and rip him apart in the follow up video
I get up at 4AM pretty much every day and work out in my basement ( in my underwear Dr. Mike! ). Primarily use KBs, body weight workouts, and a dip bar. Turned 48 yesterday, drink way to much, go to bed around 9-10 most nights. Also do yoga occasionally, but my cardio is horrible. Think I’m in the best shape of my life and only getting better. My trainers are 2 free channels on UA-cam ( both with certified trainers ). Plus I have to be at work by 6:30AM usually and have a child. I workout for mental and physical reasons and have never loved life more. I’ll never be “stage worthy “, but damn I’m looking and feeling good! Love you long time Dr. Mike.
44:14 Mike’s glance at the camera when the guy said Ryan Reynolds likes the smith machine cracked me up
The more he talked the more shit came out. 😂 Started out with some plausible tbings and then quickly spiraled in to complete bullshit 😂
He eventually said the words "functional medicine" which means he believes in magical bullshit doctors.
I once saw Hugh Jackman on a UK chat show where mentioned he hated getting fit for a role. I think he hinted that was the reason he was glad he wasn't doing XMen anymore. Its been a while for him but now he's on Deadpool 3. Possibly his last role that requires a jacked physique.
"I don't work with Thor"
Oh, well, he's the only guy clearly using PEDs in Hollywood...
*laughs in The rock*
Thor has real coaches, yes he is on some shit but he also is a real strength athletes, last coach Thor had was an aussie I think has a total over 900kg in powerlifting, there is no way this guy is good enough to teach thor of anything, he is not even good enough to teach this channel's audiences.
"Only"? Shot yourself in the foot when you used the term PEDs and not steroids.
There's no way that a bunch of them haven't been on Clenbuterol.
Excellent podcast format! Very interesting.
I feel like this was actually just Mike asking for how he can get into the celebrity training game and we got to watch.
Best click bait title and thumbnail.
Alan Ritchson said in an interview that he was taking a lot of ibuprofen during training for the first season of Reacher and that crushed his test level. He then did hrt to bring his levels back up.
Yeah but his doctor has him on much higher testosterone levels than a natural person so he's doing more than just bringing levels back up to normal on trt
Loved this. Would
Love to see more interviews with celebrity trainers.
Excellent episode. I've been lifting and active for 45 yrs now but learn something new with every one of your videos.
Is it me or does he just exude “douche” vibes. Really like Dr. Mike’s face during whole interview
My only thought through this interview was "What a wank."
Really liked how Dr. Mike asked him to clarify and gets specific on some terms he threw out
This was actually quite interesting
Quite interesting that someone can blatantly lie for that long?
Well assume you have a business doing that would you openly admit to I'm assuming breaking a law and getting the reputation for not being trusted by your clients, not saying your wrong
My husband and I have enjoyed Ryan on screen for years. Nice to hear. He's not a complete douce canoe IRL.
Damn this channel has been growing the last year, you had around 700-800k whn I started following.
It had 30k when I started, crazy growth
Very very well done interview. These are questions I've always wondered and always got frustrated when people gave vague answers in interviews. I so appreciate Dr. Mike being SO SPECIFIC and unapologetic about his questions.
"I'm 47 ish, but my test is over 900 natty... I deadlifted 430 for 20 reps, but that's not really that big of a deal guys."
It's not
So, hes either lying about the gear, the gear is being used outside of his knowledge....or somehow all the hollywood actors just magically have 98th percentile genetics.
So much of this was just rambling about diet and lifestyle when they full and well know thats not the difference. Nor is it the effort. The timelines just arent feasible. 3-6 months for most of them? Dont insult our intelligence. They have transformations that dedicated lifters dont see after training for their FIRST several YEARS even with the perfect training, lifesytle and nutrition.
And dont even get me started on the "its the lighting and camera angles" nonsense like we dont have eyes.
There's definitely a shit ton of people on gear, but I think you sarcastically brought up a good point that a lot of people don't consider. "Somehow all the Hollywood actors just magically have 98th percentile genetics"-doesn't that... kinda make sense that that would be true? Millions of people flock to Hollywood to try to make it big, and then Hollywood gets to winnow that down to the best of the best. Since they're selecting for good looks and fitness is a huge part of good looks, it follows that you're incidentally selecting for good fitness genes.
@@bryanlewis5233 except that most of these actors were selected before they had any physiques whatsoever. You can't select for a trait that's not observable. It'd be like trying to crossbreed roses for a particular color but none of them have ever flowered before.....so you can't know what color they are to even attempt to breed a new one.
In the same way prettymuch all of the Hollywood fitness actors today did not look like anything when they became famous except the Rock. Hugh Jackman had a Dad-bod in the first X-men movies. Kumail Nanjiani in his older movie roles was a stereotypical nerd build that has never set foot in a gym. Et cetera and so on. They were all average to even below average before they suddenly blew up in almost no time at all.
Why would you shoot yourself in the foot in a reputation business? The amount of people shocked he didn't throw his clients under the bus when PEDs are a federally controlled substance
@@taylorhillard4868 Right, but you just mentioned the people that are 100% obviously geared to the gills. No argument from me there. But that doesn't mean the Hollywood system doesn't also naturally select for good genes.
I'm absolutely not trying to cover up or deny that gear is RAMPANT in Hollywood, just trying to argue that maybe it's not so crazy to think famous celebs are in fact high percentile for genetic predisposition to fitness because they literally work in a field where people are selected for their desirable qualities like they're dogs being bred.
Maybe we're talking past each other a bit. It seems like you're mostly talking about the Marvel types who are making these wildly unnatural transformations (and I totally agree that's 99.999% down to gear) whereas I'm talking a little more generally (and I'm not arguing the people you're mentioning are the ONLY people on gear either). Ultimately I think we're both on the same side that it's silly for normies to try to use Hollywood training as some sort of model to aspire to because it's not accounting for the other massive advantages these people have-certainly gear but also money, time, and (I'd argue) good genetics-that aren't being talked about in whatever random shit Men's Health is trying to get trending this week.
Right?! Most actors don't have Eugen Sandow genetics and if they did they'd look like that just walking around.
16:05
Bro claims he reps 430lbs for close to 20 reps... Dr Mike is just smiling and nodding 😂
Its deadlift tho
Even at 15 reps that's an estimated 645 1rm. If people think this dude can DL 645 at this bw while "natty", I have beachfront property in Arizona to sell them
@@--SPQR-- At that many reps a 1RM calculator is going to be pretty inaccurate, so 645 is definitely not his 1RM. To his credit he looks built to deadlift and he's on the skinnier side, so 430 for a lot of reps may not be too much of an exaggeration. Especially if he focuses on the deadlift the most, as many skinny guys do, because it's the only lift they're naturally good at.
Has California finally broken off, leaving a cool refreshing breeze rolling in over Arizona Bay?
"Sure, sure. Sure, sure, sure." lol :D
1rep calf are garbage
I could barbell row 225 for 12, 235 for 6 and couldn’t move 275
They don’t work
I really appreciate the portion where he spoke about the obese clients with whom he is working for years to make a lasting progress. About a year ago, I was 450 lbs, after about 300 days I began to plateau at around 385 with just intermittent fasting, so I began powerlifting (because I enjoy it and I have the requisite equipment in my garage). I'm still around 385 but I am much stronger and my measurements are going down. It is frustrating to not see the weight loss but it helps to see and feel the strength increases. It's also nice to know that slow progress is still good progress. That really helps. Thank you.
Great interview! Enjoyed hearing how some of these guys train while traveling and on location. Just goes to show how hard many of these celebrities are working behind the scenes. The stuff no one actually sees.
Great interview! Enjoyed it, thanks.
When he talked about "functional medicine" and listed some names I nearly tuned out completely... Once he mentioned that Westside barbell cult member and conman whinning i was done.
Func med a scam. Every time I tell a Dr. I tried it they roll their eyes
As a performer, the things hes saying are a good reminder that your lifting goals need to match what you need them for. The risk for going after a one rep max outweights the benefits most of the time.
Nobody thinks the studio provides doctors or steroids or specific trainers, absolutely no one.
They know there is a required look for whatever the role may be and will achieve that through their own doctors.
I'm not one of them, but I have seen several people who think big studios like Marvel have doctor on the payroll for this kind of thing. The actors finding their trainers through word of mouth makes more sense, but with how controlling studios can be it's not unreasonable to assume they handle that as well.
The studio doesn't literally provide them with a guy, but they do have the contacts for guys who and give them gains they need to make that sure don't look natty.
They still know like c'mon these actors are controlled
Thank you for this brilliant interview Dr. Muscle
Mmmm I'ma say he's a cool guy, but hes 100% fronting a bit. Some of the stuff he said was just raising red flags.
Title of this one is also misleading. This guy is 1) on TRT 2) won't admit it 3) didn't say anything relevant about drugs in the industry.
@@Rave.-this guy is on gear not just trt
Dr Mike love the content on your channel-one thing I’d love it if you could cover with a short episode-how do lifting mechanics differ based on lever size ie do certain exercises hit taller and shorter people differently? are taller athletes more subject to lifting injuries? I know you’re 7’8" but some of us shorter 6’6” lifters (yours truly) would love to hear your thoughts on the subject. Thanks for all the work you do (and for keeping it so entertaining)!
"I dont need lube I'm actually wet enough already" 😂😂😂😂how does Mike sit next to people he's just met and be the fullest version of himself so effortlessly?! Youre my idol sir.
If you never do that you'll never make real friend brother. You do you.
That was one of my favorite episodes
I like the breakdown of the process and something clicked when you talked about the actor getting in shape in two weeks, and the idea that there was no time to dial in the metrics around the macros
He said as much as he could without screwing himself over it’s fair. Still great insight and takeaways.
Impeccable questions Mike, top man.
This guy is insufferable
he's 100% on coke
@@max-zo5ew did the gratituitous nose touching give it away?
@@Couldhavebeensomeone Yes!! Thank You :) lol
Don Saladino! 🎊 great guy👏
Good interview i liked it
Wicked. Screen ready. Thanks Dr.Mike. Always been curious about this guy and how celebrities actually train.
This is a great video.
great vid and questions, gives me hope for the celeb trainers
First minute and a half of this video are already unhinged 😂😂
This was a great interview. I enjoyed it a lot.
22:49 This directly contradicts what Dr Mike harps on when he’s reviewing the celebrity training videos and they’re talking about functionality and athleticism. He’s been adamant that actors purely just need to look big and jacked for their roles, which is mostly true while the cameras are rolling. But if they have tons of stunts and action stuff they’re not used to, it helps to be able to move, too. These actors are just grown up theater geeks after all. Found that interesting.
Gotta build the brand 🤣
Interesting Interview. Thank you
Lol at that 2 week story, basically did the equivalent of washing the car and changing the oil in order to make the sale.
Mike, bro, this is one of the best channels for training. It's so good that motivation is no longer an issue for me; my only problem is with those eccentric movements 😂.
First the nose rubbing and then that snort at 13:30. I think he's been dabbling in the clown powder😂
damn I gotta quit touching my nose in public
Great interview, please do some more of these..🏴
Oh well then all my doubts have now been laid to rest
Best RP video yet, straight talk.
I love you Mike.
The first celebrity related video of this channel that I liked.