BeyondATC - Full Flight! (KLAS - KSAN | With Premium Voices!)

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  • Опубліковано 22 лип 2023
  • Join us as we take BeyondATC for another full flight from Las Vegas to San Diego! We'll be showing off our newly introduced Premium Voice model as well as looking at some other new features of the program. #flightsim #microsoftflightsimulator #msfs2020
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  • @kosys5338
    @kosys5338 11 місяців тому +89

    I'd be lying if I said I'm in no hurry for this. I can't wait for Beyond ATC to be released.

  • @leg690
    @leg690 11 місяців тому +90

    You should implement CPDLC with the ATC system for ARTCC/FIR en-route and for PDC's on the ground so you dont have to call delivery each time, that would be awesome!

    • @jdshemp
      @jdshemp 11 місяців тому +3

      And D-ATIS.

  • @FlyBySimulations
    @FlyBySimulations 11 місяців тому +53

    Phenomenal Stuff! The premium pack genuinely SEEMS premium, instead of simply adding a cost to a sub-standard product, and I commend you for that. I sincerely cannot wait to showcase this on my channel and help bring Beyond ATC to as many people in the community as possible!

  • @SerenityMusicOasis
    @SerenityMusicOasis 11 місяців тому +67

    This is freaking amazing. Wow, we NEEDED that.

  • @bustergrn
    @bustergrn 11 місяців тому +64

    I think we're getting a bit closer with AI but the intensity in the delivery of simple instructions and responses still keeps the tool on the robotic side. The AI learning is a great. I'd recommend some less intense audio samples to humanize the overall program. Looking forward to this coming to the sim. Regardless of small improvements, I think this will be a fantastic alternative to live ATC like VATSIM.

    • @Not_Lewis
      @Not_Lewis 11 місяців тому +11

      Yea I noticed that too. Needs more casual sounding pilots and fast / efficient controllers

    • @Degslon
      @Degslon 11 місяців тому +5

      @@Not_Lewis especially on the taxi instructions it's really robotic

    • @frap9965
      @frap9965 11 місяців тому +1

      Yeah and also the degradation need to be greater and make the voices deep due to it

    • @frap9965
      @frap9965 11 місяців тому +4

      Not only that; more white noise is needed as well

    • @MartinWenzelYT
      @MartinWenzelYT 11 місяців тому +4

      Well a lot of that degradation is actually exaggerated. Actual communications between ATC and planes are clearer than when we listen in as a third party. But yeah, could use a little more and the voices at least in the actual flight seem robotic. The demo at the beginning sounded amazing.

  • @CivRyan
    @CivRyan 11 місяців тому +10

    i am so hyped for this! Bravo to the BeyondATC folks for the hard work!

  • @mohammadhhabashizadeh6644
    @mohammadhhabashizadeh6644 3 місяці тому

    As a commercial pilot with extensive experience I realized you guys have done wonderful job, everything is precise and well thought about. Even the frequency switch overs on the ground when crossing runway was pretty accurate. excellent job

  • @royvankan2723
    @royvankan2723 11 місяців тому +15

    This is absolutely the most wanted tool since the release of MSFS. The voices sounds great! Maybe you can make the voices more radio-ish like in real life. Some voices also do sound already aggressive when at first contact. But apart from that. Take you time guys so we all can enjoy this gem in the making. So excited.

    • @emmerich2080
      @emmerich2080 11 місяців тому +2

      Yes I noticed that too. Sometimes they seem like they are screaming.

    • @mcorrive12
      @mcorrive12 11 місяців тому +1

      Also the "g'day to you as well*. I've never heard a controller say "as well". Nitpicking. All around this looks awesome!
      Also, I feel like there's a lot of middle age controllers out there. The ai voices tend to not sound very age mature. Not sure if there's any way to control the variation there. Keep up the great work!

    • @mcorrive12
      @mcorrive12 11 місяців тому +1

      I wonder if you include an optional check box to op-in option in the options to allow the AI to re-use the users voice as a "controller voice" for future users. Idk, just throwing ideas out there and that came to mind based on the auto-reply function.

  • @malichos
    @malichos 11 місяців тому +2

    As usual you continue to impress Cap! We’re all very excited for this release. You and your partner working in this out here performing miracles for the MSFS community.

  • @Sanderkke
    @Sanderkke 11 місяців тому

    Dude I absolutely love you for making this! Gonna be awesome, it already is. Can't wait to try it.

  • @theVRpilot
    @theVRpilot 11 місяців тому +9

    This will be a game changer for VR flying/immersion!
    Great work team!

  • @stevem4005
    @stevem4005 11 місяців тому +3

    I can't wait (like everyone else!) for this, a huge advance and what people have been asking and waiting for.
    Worth pointing out (as you said on a previous video) that the annoying feedback beep after talking can be turned off as it could put many off and leave a false impression, that would be a shame as this is such an outstanding product.
    It's rare, but you have done a truly game changing job on this!
    All the very best to the team.

  • @MattBarraud
    @MattBarraud 11 місяців тому +22

    The tech behind this is truly amazing - this is going to bring such an amazing new level to the sim for everyone! @CaptMatto

  • @aboldone3187
    @aboldone3187 11 місяців тому

    The voice is literally insane. Really great job done by you guys. I'm really looking forward to this!

  • @XkAp1
    @XkAp1 11 місяців тому

    Stunning! I'm really looking forward to BATC. Great Job guys!

  • @birreboi
    @birreboi 11 місяців тому +2

    Really looking forward to this, but also patient enough to wait until you guys get it as good as possible for release.

  • @grahamwilman1896
    @grahamwilman1896 11 місяців тому

    This is next level simulation you guys at beyond atc are doing an awesome job, this is definitely on my shopping list which I will be using in msfs 2024.

  • @happygoluckychappy
    @happygoluckychappy 11 місяців тому

    Wow! This is what I'm talking about! Cannot wait for this to come out 😊. You guys are legends 🙌🏻

  • @Not_Lewis
    @Not_Lewis 11 місяців тому +8

    Within 2 minutes I'm awestruck. This is probably the only add-on for MSFS that I'm actually excited for.

  • @russellfredric2509
    @russellfredric2509 11 місяців тому +4

    Extraordinary. One small step for man, one giant leap for ATC!

  • @f50pilot96
    @f50pilot96 11 місяців тому

    This is just awesome!! Thank you in advance!!

  • @patches8291
    @patches8291 11 місяців тому

    Very impressive and I love their intention to get the community involved into possibly adding new features into this amazing program…cannot wait for this.

  • @vin340600
    @vin340600 11 місяців тому

    This is top quality stuff.. Thanks for making Msfs even more immersive..

  • @cynaptic
    @cynaptic 11 місяців тому +2

    It may have just been my imagination, but I almost heard a note of frustration in the AI Controller’s voice after the read back was finally delivered correctly. Kudos to the developers of this program. Awesome work! Looking forward to the final implementation.

  • @MegaPeedee
    @MegaPeedee 11 місяців тому

    Amazing. I have been waiting for this since this sim launched, as we all have no doubt.

  • @PaddyFullyRandom
    @PaddyFullyRandom 11 місяців тому

    Really looking forward to this and happy to pay. This will be a great in-between step to practice before going full-on VATSIM.

  • @ChrisA7X89
    @ChrisA7X89 11 місяців тому

    This is absolutely epic! Will be a big game changer for sure

  • @BroncoAviation
    @BroncoAviation 11 місяців тому

    I'm beyond impressed! Can't wait to use it in my livestreams . 😊

  • @ChrisKarlic
    @ChrisKarlic 11 місяців тому

    Awesome!!! Cant wait to try it out!

  • @bjorn2625
    @bjorn2625 11 місяців тому

    I simply cannot wait for this. It's just so, so cool!

  • @iamitscrizzy
    @iamitscrizzy 11 місяців тому

    This is unbelievable. I can't wait for this!!!

  • @elanshudnow
    @elanshudnow 11 місяців тому

    Absolutely amazing.

  • @brin57
    @brin57 11 місяців тому

    Awesome stuff. AI speech was my only reservation, and you have dealt with that beautifully. Exciting times.

  • @chriswatkinson93
    @chriswatkinson93 11 місяців тому +1

    Absolutely amazing, can’t wait for release, if you need an English voice for pilot/atc you’ve got a volunteer here

  • @frontcentermusician
    @frontcentermusician 11 місяців тому

    This is so massive. Can't wait to give it a try. Pay plan sounds very reasonable too. Bring it on!!

  • @JGE_DK
    @JGE_DK 11 місяців тому

    The more I see, the more I'm hyped!!! 😃

  • @707liner8
    @707liner8 11 місяців тому

    Wow, this sounds superb, can't wait for it to be released.

  • @Metroidprime117
    @Metroidprime117 8 місяців тому +1

    this is gearing up to be one of the best ATC programs there’s been perhaps after you’re done with FS2020/2024 you can look into releasing it for other simulators like P3D, FSX, X-Plane etc.

  • @mcorrive12
    @mcorrive12 11 місяців тому

    This looks like a game changer! I like using pilotedge once in a while, but sometimes I want the realism but not the stress, and this would be great for that. Also, pilotedge is still limited to the West Coast USA. I've never tried vatsim but I don't love the idea of one controller controlling so many areas on the same frequency. This really seems like a great solution! Thanks for all the effort!

  • @skipshifter9609
    @skipshifter9609 11 місяців тому

    Once again I am extremely impressed by this product. I will definitely purchase the premium voices because I don't get as much time on the sim as I would like. Therefore the cost should not be prohibited for me. I am happy that you are accepting public input but do not delay the release to accommodate everyone's needs.

  • @GeekGamingCH
    @GeekGamingCH 11 місяців тому

    AI can do crazy things and very happy to see that it can also give us an amazing sim experience. Thank you guys for your amazing job ❤

  • @scottwiser
    @scottwiser 11 місяців тому

    Impressive. Can't wait for this to release.

  • @Jelly66Belly
    @Jelly66Belly 11 місяців тому

    Looks amazing and the best I’ve seen so far. Just hope it’s priced so that it’s affordable 👍🏼

  • @daver7465
    @daver7465 11 місяців тому +1

    Incredible, this looks like the ATC addon we've all been waiting for.

    • @daver7465
      @daver7465 11 місяців тому

      The controller at 32:06 sounds like the angry voice that feelthere uses in their most recent ATC Simulator...maybe slightly less angry lol

  • @miroslavshard
    @miroslavshard 11 місяців тому +1

    Mindblowing 👀

  • @bluebirdsim
    @bluebirdsim 10 місяців тому

    I am so excited for this! This will be the most important addon for MSFS ever :)

  • @sparkymarky68
    @sparkymarky68 11 місяців тому

    The turbulence Pirep (had to look that up) - was crazy. Stay safe up there! I just do not understand how this works - its blown my mind. Cant wait for this to release.

  • @kyledurch8824
    @kyledurch8824 11 місяців тому +2

    Looking great! One criticism during taxi: other aircraft were being directed to hold short or cross runway 26, but the active runway direction was 08, to which you were taxiing. In this case, 26 shouldn’t be mentioned. Perhaps this is an issue with defaults, but it would be more realistic for that traffic to match the active conditions. Please keep up the great work, this is very exciting!

  • @neontree
    @neontree 11 місяців тому

    just 3 minutes into the video - HEAD BLOWN :) INSANE QUALITY!

  • @stefanofinetti6568
    @stefanofinetti6568 11 місяців тому +4

    Can't wait to see this software out for sale. This could really be a game changer. Some curiosity though: You were cleared for 01L and in the same time another traffic (presumably from FSLTL) was cleared for takeoff on 26R, which is basically the same runway on the opposite direction. I guess that since (as you said in the interview) you are not "controlling" the traffic but just adding dialogues to them, this seems a classic "weather conflict" between MSFS and FSLTL

  • @chitol1
    @chitol1 11 місяців тому

    Thanks for doing this my hometown flight. I have been waiting for this for 20+ years. Never fly on VATSIM, or buy any ATC add on. Will buy this for sure

  • @geardownandlocked
    @geardownandlocked 11 місяців тому

    Can't wait for this to release!

  • @christophfacebooker2618
    @christophfacebooker2618 11 місяців тому +8

    Perhaps you could add " facing east or facing west" when asking for pushback clearance. A really gorgeous program. Looking forward to it.

  • @avioniquesimulation
    @avioniquesimulation 11 місяців тому +1

    Amazing ! We waited about that for a long time. Hope to get it compatible with xplane as well

  • @chrisgard4076
    @chrisgard4076 11 місяців тому

    JUST Outstanding

  • @paulwain4248
    @paulwain4248 11 місяців тому

    Cant wait for this to released :D

  • @OperationDx1
    @OperationDx1 11 місяців тому

    New video! Nice.

  • @Sataniceasterbunny
    @Sataniceasterbunny 11 місяців тому

    brilliant! now we wait for the vfr atc interaction :)

  • @faztech
    @faztech 11 місяців тому

    Can't wait for the release

  • @redtailpilot
    @redtailpilot 10 місяців тому

    WOW! Waiting for something like this for over three decades of flight simming. Started with SubLogic, MSFS as a teen. Then went on to get my PPL twenty five years ago. This is going to be... "game changing"... and I don't use that word often 😂

  • @navylandsub
    @navylandsub 11 місяців тому +2

    This looks amazing! I can't wait for it to be released. The only thing I have a quarrel with right now is that you asked for 08L, Which is what the ATIS called for, but everyone else was going to 26R and 26L. I feel like it should have had you go to 26L/R instead since that's where it's sending everyone else.

    • @jdshemp
      @jdshemp 11 місяців тому +1

      In real life They depart 26 right , arrive 26 Left or Depart 08 Left, and arrive 08 Right at LAS, if winds are extreme out of SW, they also land 19 right, and depart 19 left,I hope these custom runway usages can be someday instituted for each airport. I believe since the Los Angeles runway disaster, airports with parrelel runway configurations depart on the inboards,and arrive on the outboards,LAX does this.

    • @navylandsub
      @navylandsub 11 місяців тому

      @@jdshemp Yeah I know that's the case. I was just thinking about how if it's not doing that it should still send you to the same runways it's sending everyone else.

  • @kevo31415
    @kevo31415 11 місяців тому +1

    Hello! I met you at FSexpo and you kindly let me and my friend try this software. We are controllers on VATSIM and we were very impressed with the depth and phraseology this program uses. I see that my phraseology feedback "One Seven Seventeen Thousand Feet" has been implemented! This is impressive. I wish you well.

  • @TypicalDutchSaysHi
    @TypicalDutchSaysHi 11 місяців тому

    Climb via Saaid, you could sell it as local dialect :D
    In all, this is getting better each time. Amazing! Congratulations. But at 11:00 I really expected it to say something like "We have a number for you to call."

  • @taboo0
    @taboo0 11 місяців тому +11

    I know you probably have a loaded schedule, but, I think an Australia/New Zealand flight would be awesome to showcase those accents etc.

    • @russellfredric2509
      @russellfredric2509 11 місяців тому +4

      An Aussie accent might be a bridge too far... even for AI 😅

  • @GarrisIiari
    @GarrisIiari 11 місяців тому

    Hype cannot be any higher at this point. Really looking forward to this product, but agree you should take your time to make the best product possible.

  • @virtualDon
    @virtualDon 10 місяців тому +1

    It's funny to hear the AI interpret SID as "side" and Detroit Metro Wayne County as "WayneCo". As a retired controller from LA Center and current contract instructor at Washington Center, it bothered me to hear incorrect phraseology, mis-pronounced numbers and poor readbacks (no callsigns, etc) that were not corrected but it occurs to me that this is exactly what one hears in real life on the freq.! I just saw your interview with twotonemurphy and it sounds fantastic! I can't wait to install it!

    • @SeanMacca
      @SeanMacca 8 місяців тому

      Yeah, I was just getting ready to write a similar comment but saw this. It would be nice if the AI model maybe is updated to handle the abbreviations, and maybe make some random mis-pronunciations / mistakes randomly. If I could only pick one or the other though I rather have it read it back correctly, at least on the controller side.

  • @richardswede
    @richardswede 11 місяців тому

    Boy do I want THIS NOW. This Sim needs this, I need this, 1000's of others need this. You have a Huge Hit here! Guys hurry up and get this out will you 'Please'.

  • @joellouisfire
    @joellouisfire 11 місяців тому +1

    Wow, incredible! Thank you for this, I seriously can't wait! I have a question regarding the premium voices: Are you planning on using only the recorded real pilot and atc voices with the premium voices or will it use some stock 11L voices? Since I use 11L quite often, I picked up on the stock voices, so it would be more realistic if every voice you hear is the recorded one like the ATC example you showed in the beginning. You can tell the 11L voices come from voice over artists, so one of those sound like Duke Nukem works as an ATC during the day haha. By having a library of real world pilots and atc, I can imagine how crazy realistic it would sound. Not a deal breaker by any means, I'm just wondering and sharing ideas. Thanks!

  • @billB101
    @billB101 11 місяців тому

    This looks so good, can't wait to check it out. Hopefully it will understand my Northern English accent :)

  • @jimmy8x541
    @jimmy8x541 11 місяців тому

    I've pretty much switched to DCS these days. But this mod is 100% going to get me back into MSFS and flying the PMDG again.

  • @ErikFigueroa
    @ErikFigueroa 11 місяців тому +6

    I'm wishing that you'll be getting a nice email from Jorg to license your tech for the sim, so that everyone can benefit from your work. Regardless of whether or not that happens, I'll be a happy customer once this releases!

    • @charlie7mason
      @charlie7mason 11 місяців тому +1

      That would be sheer perfection, were it to happen.

  • @tyeman3039
    @tyeman3039 10 місяців тому

    This is insane!

  • @GordonKenaston
    @GordonKenaston 11 місяців тому

    Whaaaaat!? This is friggin awesome! I hope you guys all become millionaires for this 😊

  • @ellonysman
    @ellonysman 11 місяців тому +1

    This should be part of MFS2024😅. A great teacher prior to hooking up on PilotEdge or Vatsim...great job, we salute YOU!❤😅

  • @KrisOsterhout
    @KrisOsterhout 9 місяців тому

    This looks great! I will say, some of those taxi instructions were a doozy. I'm not sure I'd remember "Taxi via Alpha-6, Alpha, Alpha-4, Charlie-4, Bravo, Charlie-2, Charlie, Charlie-1, Quebec, Romeo"

  • @briancollins1475
    @briancollins1475 11 місяців тому +1

    It sounds wonderful! Though I noted at 23:15 another a/c cleared for takeoff on 26R as we are rolling on 08L. I have paused it in anticipation of the smash! 😆

  • @foreverglenn2696
    @foreverglenn2696 11 місяців тому

    for sure getting this

  • @OperationDx1
    @OperationDx1 11 місяців тому

    That's cool you can really mess it up and get back on track.

  • @ChosVirtualFlights
    @ChosVirtualFlights 11 місяців тому

    Wow, this sounds hilariously realistic!! NICE!!!!!! AI even got a sense of humor in the tone. The way it says no. lol🤣🤣🤣

  • @highspec_tech90
    @highspec_tech90 11 місяців тому

    These premium voices will definitely be your U.S.P.
    It sounds like a live human, the previous (standard) voices, although much better than what we had before, still sounded a little like a mobile phone assistant. Put your main focus on these and I'm definitely in!

  • @fulano86
    @fulano86 11 місяців тому

    This is super cool and awesomely implemented! A couple of things though from the initial part of the video, usually airplanes getting switched to tower get told to monitor tower rather than contact tower. This will avoid each plane in the sequence from calling the tower to announce they're ready for takeoff and congesting the frequency. Instead the controller will just call the pilots in sequence and line them up/clear them for takeoff accordingly. Second thing, the only time a controller states "radar contact", at least in the US, is during initial radar identification which typically is during the departure phase(departure controller). Generally, once an airplane has been radar identified, there is no need for each controller after that to keep stating "radar contact". I'm really hoping Asobo/Microsoft will reach out to you and pay you a pretty penny to implement this in a future MSFS update. Keep up with the great work you're doing!

    • @beyondatc
      @beyondatc  11 місяців тому +2

      Great feedback. We got similar feedback in the Discord, and this has already been fixed :)

  • @dhunsworth
    @dhunsworth 11 місяців тому

    For not being a pilot, you sure seem very familiar with that plane. Can't wait for release!

  • @QazmeHabu
    @QazmeHabu 11 місяців тому

    Was a bit hesitiant with the pricing etc. But hearing the voice in this video it really has impressed me. Like it largely sounds real, at least as close as I've ever heard. Only picked up on two things that need to be worked on, like Captain said, it saying SID wrong and when reading the clearance/taxi instruction etc it should says "Runway 2-6-Left" instead it says "RW 26 L". But very close - expect that to be worked out by release.

  • @meddymonox4298
    @meddymonox4298 21 день тому

    i have it and loved it !!!

  • @jonahb.7119
    @jonahb.7119 11 місяців тому +2

    The AI pilots should also get communications wrong from time to time and ATC correct/ask for corrections. I cannot wait for this and am super excited to give this a go!

  • @artyomvachyan3448
    @artyomvachyan3448 11 місяців тому +2

    Great job! I have a question for the devs: are the frequencies based on the sim data? Because sometimes there is a difference between sim data and real world data (i.e. the sim can use the same frequency or even a backup frequency for tower, ground, etc.). Also, in large airports, are there going to be separate frequencies for , let's say, ground control? For example: ground west and ground east?

  • @shodnett1975
    @shodnett1975 11 місяців тому +20

    This looks amazing. Just curious why the ATC cleared you for 8L and a Southwest plane for 26R at the same time.

    • @thomasstandish8848
      @thomasstandish8848 10 місяців тому +1

      I was interested until I saw/heard this. This tells me that it is not quite there yet.

    • @gearpuller2315
      @gearpuller2315 10 місяців тому

      My thoughts exactly. Kinda ruined it for me right there. I’m guessing they’ll have it sorted out before release but I’ll wait until I see improvements before purchasing

    • @lpburke86
      @lpburke86 9 місяців тому +3

      I mean if it ruined it for you, just use the free built in ATC since this isn’t any better because it made one mistake…. It’s total trash…
      Oh wait….
      Y’all remind me of a guy I was next to on a plane back in 2002 who was losing his mind because the in flight WiFi went out… in 2002.

  • @Towga.
    @Towga. 9 місяців тому

    The product will be so good for us beginners that are horrified to do Vatsim right now. This will be such good practise for us

  • @CarlosELugo
    @CarlosELugo 11 місяців тому +1

    I want it!!! It's amazing

  • @RetroJack
    @RetroJack 11 місяців тому +1

    Looks great - I'd love to see how it would handle a weather diversion.

  • @drumcode420
    @drumcode420 11 місяців тому

    I mean you guys definitely have something going there. I feel as these voices are too clean and need more “radioing” and also I’m not fully onboard with the voice tones, something is off to me. These need to be a bit faster. This thing has great potential, I’m probably going to give it a go when it releases.

  • @TDNStacticalronto
    @TDNStacticalronto 11 місяців тому

    I can't wait

  • @filipheeman
    @filipheeman 11 місяців тому

    Please show a vfr flight in a GA airplane. Can’t wait for Beyond ATC!

  • @manuelrivera6632
    @manuelrivera6632 8 місяців тому

    25:50 the india accent, cant wait for this addon

  • @centaurixon
    @centaurixon 11 місяців тому +1

    This is really amazing.
    But what it would make perfect imho:
    Each section of the phrases are ending with a full stop, which you can clearly hear in the voice. In real ATC it's more like everything was one sentence, more like separated by commas. And in reality it sounds less pronounced, less "important", more casual and to some extend more "bored". This will make it harder to understand aswell, but will greatly improve realism. It's really hard to describe but I hope you'll get the point

    • @JJNSMN1
      @JJNSMN1 11 місяців тому

      Agree

  • @jackwoud
    @jackwoud 11 місяців тому

    Good afternoon from the Netherlands.
    I have watched and listened to the demo with great pleasure and look forward to it.
    From the beginning of FS2020 I had a vision that Virtual ATC would one day come to market and here it is.
    I see demos with the large Air Liners, but can this program also be used with the smaller aircraft from the CAT 2 such as The Beach Barons and the TDM 940?

  • @andrewgonzalez4230
    @andrewgonzalez4230 11 місяців тому

    Pretty cool to see MCRD off to the right of KSAN.

  • @mattgan2051
    @mattgan2051 11 місяців тому +3

    I’m Simmer from CHINA, would be nice if it support the metric rule as well, Thank you for making this nice addon!

  • @robertlworley
    @robertlworley 11 місяців тому

    This is really good!! I think it would even be more realistic if there was an occasional 'umm' or 'uh' in there once in a while. Is that a possibility? It might sound even more human.

  • @luxuryva
    @luxuryva 11 місяців тому

    this is awesome better that MSFS ATC anyday cant wait for release