7 Reasons Why The Tesla Model X is BAD in Winter Weather
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- Опубліковано 14 тра 2024
- 7 Reasons Why The Tesla Model X is a BAD winter weather vehicle. It really sucks when you cant get in your car, but thats just the 1st issue. Watch to find out what its like to own a Tesla Model X in winter conditions. Tesla fanboys wont tell you the real story, they will only tell you its the best car ever made! LOL
There is a #8 that I forgot to mention. In the winter, driving efficiency is bad due to cabin heater usage, the battery heater, and added drag due to the snow/rain. I get around 561 wh/mile while using heat and driving normally.
At 561 Wh per mile thats only 169 miles on a charge assuming a 95 kWh battery and you use it all. (95,000 / 561 = 169)
However the cold temps also lower the battery's capacity. So you dont get a full 95kwh.
A full charge to 95kwh based on the national average of $.13/kwh = $12.35
That $12.35 will get you roughly 169 miles in a Long Range Model X in the winter.
$12.35 would buy me 4.84 gallons of gasoline in Upstate NY at $2.55/gallon.
A Toyota Prius driver would get 224 miles on that same $12.35. (4.84 gal x 50mpg = 242 miles)
Oh and you can have a Prius for $13,000 instead of $89,000 on a new raven Model X
Just sayin....
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Tesla Model X winter entry procedure
1. Preheat for at least 30 mins so doors will open.
2. Open rear hatch to get snow brush. Close rear hatch.
3. Brush off snow.
4. Test front doors to see if they open yet.
5a. If they open, open fwd and buckle in your child (if applicable).
5b. If they won’t open yet let car warm up for another 30 minutes and retry.
God forbid that it’s an emergency and you need to take a family member to the emergency room because if you skipped a step you aren’t getting there in an X.
You should be able to pull open the front door.
@@seanz6586 sorry dont take it personally but when people decide to comment without doing research it aggravates me
I hear all the fanboy's cries about brushing off my car..... Yes I do clean the snow off. But when you drive in the snow snow continues to pile up on the back window under the spoiler. So when you park and open both doors at the same time the snow slides into the car. Lots of fanboys bust my balls about it but I LIVED WITH IT. Im sure they are living in sunny SOCAL or have a garage. Its a real problem.
Then there are the doors and windows. They freeze shut all the time. Sure you can make excuses for those too or suggest crazy coatings for the rubber seals but the bottom line is that a car should serve the basic functions of a car! I have lived in winter my entire life. I have owned all kinds of cars. Shitty ones that only cost $300 all the way up to this $100,000 Tesla. Ive owned trucks, Ive owned cars. IN 30 YEARS I HAVE NEVER HAD SO MUCH TROUBLE WITH A VEHICLE. EVERY SINGLE CAR HAS BEEN ABLE TO OPEN AND DRIVE DOWN THE ROAD EXCEPT THIS POS TESLA.
Argue if you want, disagree if you want but I'm not being unrealistic expecting my doors to open and to be able to drive the car in the cold. Every single car I have ever owned has opened in the winter except this one.
Lastly, Im sure you didn't watch the video because that wasn't the only issue with it as a winter car.
Refusing to realize there are faults removes your ability to improve. By defending Tesla unconditionally you aren't doing anyone any favors. We cannot grow and improve unless we first acknowledge our faults.
@@JamesKlafehn i watched the video.no teslam. bmw i3 is there. you are making a simple clickbait video. human stupidity which is annoying. there are some in the video. to set a subjective opinion as an objective ... there is nothing to talk about ....
@@andrasadam3238 Its not click bait. Its all true. If you dont like what is said that is your issue. Move along..
Here's an idea....CLEAN off the car with a brush while heating it up. Go inside and get your coffee and by the time you come back out, it'll probably be fine. I clean off the ENTIRE car before hitting the road. If you leave the roof stuff on, it will eventually slide off and blind you or fly into the other lane hitting another driver's car.
Thank you for this review I can only imagine what the weather in Canada could do to this.
Im pretty close to canada, at least the lower portion haha. I live in Upstate NY. We get a lot of snow and cold too.
Welcome to Tesla’s in the winter - for example - come fall I stop auto folding mirrors and when spring comes I turn it back on - of course you have learned (the hard way) not to open to rear hatch and passenger doors at the same time w snow or rain on the glass - btw - great demo of the snow problem - you also learned not to take your x to s for that matter to the car wash with temps bellow freezing because the door seals will freeze up and will continue to freeze up until the moisture dries - we also keep a spray bottle handy with rubbing alcohol and water for when ice builds up on the glass or mirrors - we’ve notice 30 minutes of preheat/defrost works wonders when it’s really cold or iced up - keep the videos coming - you’re actually helping the Tesla community - hang in there
Ann Niblock finally a real comment with real experience! Thank you so much. Read the other comments. So many people protect Tesla and make excuses for them. I’m glad people are watching but I guarantee those people aren’t watching until the end. They watch a couple minutes and comment. Thank you!
Shoot even our 20K vw jetta came with heated mirrors.. And that was built in 2012!!
As far as snow, I always keep the scraper in the trunk of the cars so I can get it and then brush snow off that's around the doors, granted if you're short it would be hard to reach the roof to get the back door seal area.
Yaasss
You have knowledge
Thank you for an honest review and not just focusing on all the sunshine and rainbows.
Glitz over functionality. Almost got a P100D b/c I wanted an SUV that could get to 60 in 3 seconds. Used Turo to rent it in the summer and had multiple issues in a 48 hr period (wife almost bisected by a closing gull wing door, unsolicited interior spray wash when taking the car through the no-touch car wash, and on an 88% charge I barely made a 160 mile trip even though the initial range projection exceeded 220 miles). The car is like a supermodel with a bad personality. Initially very attractive but gets old real quick.
Scott Justin haha I love the comment. Thank you for your honesty! Sounds like you have assessed the X correctly to me. Lol
Thanks for sharing these owner experience videos, just came from test driving a Model X this evening. I'll just stick to my Lexus and get TSLA stock.
I think that is smart. I wish I bought TSLA instead of a Tesla.
I live in Australia Victoria and the minimum temp ive seen where I live is around 6c and ive never seen it snow here. So would it be a better summer car?
Thank you for the honest review. I'm in So Cal so moderate temps so I'm curious of battery usage at 75 mph with the heater on. Good luck with the fanboys.
Thank you so much for your positive comment and thank you for watching!
It IS curious how electric vehicle manufacturers seem to have waged a war against door handles.
Is it really a big problem with the driverside door freezing? I drive a audi A5 with frameless windows and i never have this problem if i use silicone on the rubber touching the window.
Thanks for the honest reviews, I am out of Calgary and see worst weather conditions compared to New York. I am planning to purchase model x this year and wonder if you have ever park the car for more than a month or might have parked for winter, if yes what did you do to keep the batteries charged or in your experience if the batteries can get damage if the car is parked for extended period. thanks
Happy to help! Don't forget to hit that thumbs up button for me! Thank you!
You have to buy a supercharge outlet for your garage to keep it charged. Otherwise using a normal 120 VAC outlet is of no use. If you're talking Calgary weather, a Tesla is worthless.
@@jntyrhds A supercharge outlet? Please watch this video to help yourself learn about EV charging. ua-cam.com/video/EaUT8GnGCuE/v-deo.html
Thanks for this. We are thinking of trading in our S for an X to have a bigger family car. In Seattle we can get a good amount of snow sometimes..not as much as NY maybe, but these things are good to know because it still gets very cold over here in the winter. Our cars are always in the garage but still. I’m a Tesla fan girl but I still want to know the good, the bad, and the UGLY.
Happy to help. Thank you for watching!
@@JamesKlafehn this video was great. thanks!
Thank you Sir this was really nice of you.
Thanks for watching!
Fanboys are going to hate this one.
i wanna be a fanboy but the truth is real.
vdog 55 as I’ve said before, I was! Huge fanboy! But Tesla has beat the shit out of me. I hope people share my story and heed my warning.
Fanboys think they are part of something great, something revolutionary! But it’s still a big company and they don’t give a shit about you. It’s all about the big picture and moving forward. A couple thousand upset people mean nothing to them.
@@JamesKlafehn it makes me sad.% Batteries today are awesome for ebikes but still need to come a long way for anything bigger imo so manufacturers add other poorly thought out gimmicks to distract customers. Any word on the cyber truck yet?
Some good points.
But 3:00... driving with snow on your car is bad idea. In many Europe countries its illegal. Clearing windows is not enough we need whole car free of snow and ice.
Mikołaj Keep watching, you will see moments later that I re-create the test. There was a very small amount of snow on the window. That is only the snow that the spoiler keeps on the window. I was driving at highway speed and that snow accumulates there.
The model 3 has issue's as well but not that bad. On the 3, you have to beat on the door handle to get it un-frozen. If the window doesn't go down, the door doesn't close right. Then you have to listen to wind noise while you're driving. The charge door will freeze closed or in the open position. The mirrors freeze as well. A gas car will freeze too but it doesn't do it nearly as often and it has to be a major storm. The Tesla has problems even on minor snow falls. The biggest issue is because of the frameless windows.
Thank you so much for your comment. So many people are in denial about these cars in winter. My thumbs up to down ratio is horrible for this video.
Thank you for also speaking up and talking about your experiences!
Our Volvo:
* Radar and front camera ALWAYS work - never get's blocked.
* Folding mirror: I think it failed to fold once or so in 2,5 years (and yes, here in Sweden, we have a lot of shitty weather that really covers the car in ice, snow, rime and i do not know what).
* Doors: Well... pull handle, it opens. If there is a lot of ice and shit, pull harder, and it opens.
* Fuel door: Push, and it opens. Once it was so much icesnowslushyfrozen shit on so i didn't even see the door, but started to push around approximately where i thought it was and, yep, there it was, and it popped right open.
* Windows: Sometimes they do not roll down but, who cares? It's only a minor issue when arriving at work but that is easily fixed by opening the door when blipping the card on the entry card reader.
Made in Sweden. Designed in Sweden. Tested in Sweden.
Volvo know how to build cars.
It's funny how many people just accepted beating on the door handle/windows to be okay as long as it's a Tesla. Which is pretty silly considering how Tesla has poor build quality to begin with and it can't be good to repetitively hit on these components.
Not sure why Tesla insist to go with frameless design.
@@Xanthopteryx And Sweden gets snow, and Volvo isn't headed up by Elon Musk.
Thanks for the honest reviews, keep them coming!
Douglas Wong thank you so much for watching and commenting! Please feel free to share. I wish I knew this stuff before I bought an X that’s for sure!
James! Model X has power doors . . . Users like them very much (when they work!), but those are also ”the Achilles heel” of Model X. In winter time:
- Remove snow before opening any door.
- Inside the outer metal skin of the falcon doors are sensors to protect the doors hitting anything or anyone. Sensor is in the middle of the lower part of the falcon door. If there is something (like yourself) in front of the falcon door, the door will not open normally. Also the front door will not open normally if you are near that sensor. Clean also snow from the middle of the falcon doors.
- Those sensors sometimes separate from the door. The sensor is pointing more upwards and works wrongly.
I agree with you on the process. That is exactly what you need to do. But you shouldn’t need a checklist in order to get into your car. I wrote my checklist in a different comment. I’ll try to find it
Peter 1. Preheat for at least 30 mins so doors will open. 2. Open rear hatch to get snow brush. 3. Brush off snow. 4 test front doors to see if they open yet. 5a. If they open, open fwd and buckle in our son. 5b. If they won’t open yet let car warm up for another 30 minutes and retry.
God forbid that it’s an emergency and you need to take a family member to the emergency room because if you skipped a step you aren’t getting there in an X.
I like Tesla and I'm thinking about getting a model 3 but why can't they just put normal door handles on I hope they fix these issues because I live in the Northeast and it does snow 2 to 3 months out of the year
I got a Model X too, and yes, I have to admit that it's more of a show piece vs practical vehicle... Easy to put a car seat in vs showering your baby with ice and water while the trunk opens is totally practical lol! I parked my car in the garage, so doesn't really have much of an ice issue in the morning. However, I actually have to worry about opening the FWD when it rains with fingers crossed that water won't slip in 🤞. But I do enjoy the massive windshield and the height and the space the Model X provides. Not sure if the up coming Model Y can beat that, but probably way more practical.
Howard Thank you so much for your positive comment! I totally agree on your points. I love those features as well. I actually plan an “8 things I love about my model X “ video coming soon. Getting my son into his car seat and the front window are my top 2. Thank you so much for watching and I appreciate your comment!
Thank you for the honest review
Glad it was helpful!
I have a 2019 Model X as well and I live in Maine with lots of ice and snow.
--Take 2 secs to brush off snow from windows (as I do from my ICE cars) to prevent it falling into the car (this happens on all my ICE cars when opening the doors, though not as bad). Clean off area around falcon wing door sensors as well.
--Preheat car and most of this brushing off of snow is minimized from windows...I would do this anyway to heat the steering wheel, cabin, and seat, so nothing extra needed.
--silicone to door and window seals. I do this with my ICE cars as well. Your windows and doors were frozen because you washed your car and water will freeze up everything that night. Same thing happens ICE cars doors/windows.
--and yes, sometimes, as with my ICE cars, you need to use Ice Melt.
--my rear view mirrors ARE heated.
--on my model 3, as well as my model X, I disable the auto-folding mirrors during the winter.
--cameras being blocked is a pain and does limit you in the winter on snowy roads, no doubt.
To me, these things are no big deal. Living in a cold climate, you have deal with this stuff on ANY car. Model X has it's own specific things, but to me, I don't have a problem with it.
Yes I do clean the snow off. But when you drive in the snow snow continues to pile up on the back window under the spoiler. So when you park and open both doors at the same time the snow slides into the car. Lots of fanboys bust my balls about it but I LIVED WITH IT. Im sure they are living in sunny SOCAL or have a garage. Its a real problem.
Then there are the doors and windows. They freeze shut all the time. Sure you can make excuses for those too or offer crazy coatings and solutions but the bottom line is that a car should serve the basic functions of a car! I have lived in winter my entire life. I have owned all kinds of cars. Shitty ones that only cost $300 all the way up to this $100,000 Tesla. Ive owned trucks, Ive owned cars. IN 30 YEARS I HAVE NEVER HAD SO MUCH TROUBLE WITH A VEHICLE. EVERY SINGLE CAR HAS BEEN ABLE TO OPEN AND DRIVE DOWN THE ROAD EXCEPT THIS POS TESLA.
Argue if you want, disagree if you want but I'm not being unrealistic expecting my doors to open and to be able to drive the car in the cold.
Is your door refusing to open better or worse than your plastic door handle snapping off in your hand? I've snapped a few handles off in the winter before. I have metal door handles now.
Haha that would suck too.
@@JamesKlafehn it does. Especially since I live in the South and I know it's not usually as cold down here, so theoretically it's less of a problem for me than for people who live further North.
Whishing you and your lovely family a happy Christmas and new year
Thank you! Merry Christmas to you too!
Even Ben from teslanomics said he wouldn't recommend the x due to the impracticalilty. I can definitely see why.
RobertJLessard oh wow I didn’t know that. Makes sense.
Hows the rav4 prime doing?
Really well. I like that it’s so simple to drive. No range issues and always works. It’s for sale though. I’m getting a 2022 Ford F-150 Lightning
“Oh my god, look at that! A door that actually works!” 😂😂 I’m guessing the added weight of the frozen slush on the Tesla doors and ice build up at the pivot point are to blame. Currently looking into model 3’s and living here in MN, I’m glad the 3 has somewhat normal doors
No it's the sensors
@@wiseshepherd3050 And what do you think triggers the sensors 😂
Finally someone that tells the truth! There are TO many people around there that cannot say anything that might be negative about the Tesla. TO may fan people.
The sensors: Volvo have solved that so the radar and front camera cannot be blocked. They use a racam behind the wind screen. That way it's covered by the wipers, and, they also use heat strips in the window in front of the sensor.
Have NEVER failed me yet (living in Sweden so i know exactly what weather you have).
But what, wait?! No heated rear mirrors?!??!?! The most shitty car in Sweden have heated mirrors!
Xanthopteryx thank you for watching and for your comment. Please feel free to share this video to help get the word out. I WISH I knew then what I know now. Would’ve saved me so much stress and money.
Why not talk about the mileage? I live in Calgary where the winter weather persists for 4-5 months during the year and we're talking -10 degrees on average. Is it worth buying a Tesla here because I heard cold temps double drains the battery and cuts the mileage to half. We don't even have too many superchargers here.
The mirrors are heated if you turn on the rear defroster
I discovered that later. There is a video about it. ua-cam.com/video/haoJYqhC20k/v-deo.html
Thank you!! I live in Conifer Colorado, 9,000FT and was considering buying a T. NOPE!!!
Thanks for watching. Yeah I dont miss it in the slightest!
The mirrors aren't heated? My 2015 Jetta has heated side view mirrors.
I dont remember. Its been so long since I had this car. I guess not.
.....you don't brush the snow off your car off before you start driving, or say, before you open your trunk?
oh god... incoming tesla fanboys!
Sekkzc haha
James Klafehn quick question, are you still putting this car up for sale? and i’m assuming you still wouldn’t recommend it huh? 🥴
Sekkzc yeah it’s still for sale but I’ve only received stupid offers. $70,000 is the average but that’s what 2017’s cost
Thanks for telling truth
Not to sound like a fanboy, but why not just brush some of the snow off before you open the FWDs or the rear liftgate? You brushed the snow off the Rav4, why not the Model X?
Reason077 do you Live place where it snows? 100% of the people I know keep their Snowbrush in the rear cargo area or in the trunk. We also have a two-year-old and while my wife gets him buckled in I’d have to get into the rear. This is a very normal problem in snowy weather. And I brushed snow off the Rav so you could see it and because it’s easy. It’s on the side. To brush off the X you need something with a long reach.
I thought the same thing. Also a inexpensive metal carport would solve 99% of this, once that cool carpet hack was done
Jim Jenkins I wish I had the money for a garage addition or carport. The car was already a stretch for us. We made it happen but the $4000 towing bill has really screwed us. So there won’t be any garages in my future LOL But that really shouldn’t be the solution anyway. I’ve lived in snowy conditions my entire life and I’ve never once parked his car in a garage
I live in Albany and I brush off the snow on all my vehicles before leaving
Curt Jones where do you keep the snow brush? Probably in the rear of the car right?
Here in geogria the lowest it would go is 45 but somthimes it snows like 1 every 5 years so I think a model x would be good here
Yup! Thanks for watching!
Only 15k view wow should have million
I live in the philippines 🇵🇭, next year I will probably move to Canada
Mirrors defrost when you turn on the rear windows defroster (and it is not unique to this car). Also I would guess that the snow will fall if the back door is open and so will brush it before opening the trunk or will just close the door first... i mean...
its funny, those are the only two points that anger people. No one comments about the other points. Do you live in a place where it snows every day? Where do you usually keep your snow brush? Yes, someone here told me a few days ago that the side view mirrors heat with the rear defrost. Go look at the manual in your X, if you have one. It does not say under the mirror section or in the climate control section that that happens. If you go into the rear defrost button description it has one sentence, "Also, using rear defrost heats side mirrors." That's it, it took a lot of digging to find and no one at tesla told me that was the case.
@@JamesKlafehn After watching this video I watched all of your other videos related to the car and I must say that you are correct about it. It seems like you got a "lemon". Maybe really sell this one and get model Y it should be a lot better. Too many things are relay not as they should . Something bad happened during the production of this one.
jawbreaker I kinda wish that was true. Unfortunately nothing about this car is a lemon. It doesn’t qualify in any way. Besides, most of my issues have been with Tesla service. The cars issues are mostly minor and when I talk to Tesla, everything is “within spec”. Thank you so much for watching though! It’s been a rough road and my only hope is to warn people that bad things can happen. Most you tubers only want to talk about how amazing Tesla is.
what year was ur car?
2019 I bought it new.
I will continue to read through the comments but I have to tell you I feel for ya man. I shot a video today showing the endless problems I've had in the 5 years of owing my S, it will be out in the next few days. Sub if you want to have it show up in your feed. The car is literally better now than it's ever been because everything is currently working (finally) and some problems I've had for years are finally FUCKING resolved (out of warranty $$ mind you). I will be trading my S tomorrow, going for a different brand altogether. I still have a newer S but it will be years before I buy a Tesla again (if ever), they need to get their shit together. The cars are great generally but the company, yoy. I was once a Tesla fanboy too...
InternetDude that sucks! Yeah I’ll definitely check out your channel and video. I just saw on twitter that Sean Mitchell (an only positive Tesla story youtuber) is trying to take over #teslaserviceissues. He tweeted telling people to post their positive service stories and use that hashtag. They only want positive Tesla stories out there.
James Klafehn that wouldn’t surprise me, he is one of the biggest Tesla UA-cam fanboys. I like some of his content such as the Sandy Munro interview though.
Are you still planning on selling it? If you did I'd miss out on your awesome videos LOL. I feel the same way about Tesla, I used to be a big fanboy (it's easy to do). But the issues over time add up to the attitude of "I wouldn't buy another". Sigh.
InternetDude yeah it’s up for sale now. Only low ball offers though. People think I’m desperate and that they can get a smoking deal. I have shot myself in the foot with this channel. People trash me online anytime I post it somewhere so I gave up. People say I’m trying to sell a lemon and that I’m hiding things. I’ve been the most open Tesla youtuber in the world, I’m not hiding anything. I wish it were a lemon so Tesla would buy it back at full price. Unfortunately it’s just normal Tesla quality and service.
James Klafehn very true
Probably wouldn’t work very well in -40 to -60 in Fairbanks Alaska
I live more north east than you in Nova Scotia and have been sayin no way these things do good in winter climate, no way one will last 300,000kms either... I would hope for anyone that bought one but I have my doubts
The Model X is far too over complicated, even by Musk’s own admission. These cars will become orphans once the Model Y gets into the market since they’ve developed so many issues, many of which Tesla aren’t able to effectively fix.
Well.. the sensors will still be blocked. Volvo doesn't have that problem - my Pilot Assist works, the sensors never fail that.
The model 3 has issues in winter conditions too which will all be inherited by the model (wh)Y.
No brainer I have Ioniq 5 and as a rule turn of the auto fold mirrors, and when it snows we sweep the snow off the car before getting in, really?
Can't wait for the cyber truck
I pray to god Tesla gets their service and quality figured out. I still have my cybertruck reservation but they need to improve before Ill ever go back to them.
@Herbert Freeman hell to the naw naw hell to the naw.
@Herbert Freeman take notes on how the Hummer is gonna get smoked and left in a pile of dust
@Herbert Freeman it's not for a race. The Hummer is just gonna be left in a pile of dust and parts. Y u so butt hurt? Who hurt u bro ?
The Cyber Schlock is going to be a worse case study than the Model X. Yet another wet dream full of gee-whiz features impressive on the stage when it's released, but designed by someone who has no clue about what is needed in the real world.
Wow I was gonna get a TESLA model 3!....and I live I. Boston MA so I got a Honda Accord I love the Honda so I’m glad I didn’t get the TESLA!
Model3’s have better build quality than the X without a doubt. Most important though is the service in your area. Service for me in New York, service has been dog shit. The service centers are also 3 1/2 hours and 2 hours away for me. That is definitely not manageable. My best guess is that 40% of Tesla customers are genuinely happy and have had no troubles. 20% are delusional fanboys who make excuses for their service/car, 40% have had serious troubles like me. Tesla requires NDA agreements so that’s why people don’t hear about more troubles.
Get a $10 snowbrush, like normal people and clean your car In most places, it's the law to clean off your car anyway before you drive.
It was in the car smart ass
The X was a mistake, but it was one that got positive attention.
Thanks for watching and commenting! I appreciate it!
Even not owning one, most clames was close to stupidity.. sensors in front on all radars stop work if they be covered with ice, doors freeze if you wash cars in winter and don't dry it, snow enter car fron hatches if you open them, fwd has sensors and covered with 5cm ice they work as supposed.. real issue was those mirrors..
I dont own a Tesal, but #2 is a bit picky, just clean the snow before getting into the vehicle. Any vehicle washed in winter will get water in door/window seal which will freez and prevent you from opening the door or window, same as with any other vehicle. Rest of your concers are valid and for an expensive car.
Nice to see such honest reporting on things like this! As you say, this isn't something people talk about much! I see the Tesla fanboiz found your video and hit that thumbs down... wear it as a badge of pride! Keep up the good work!
Kris -Greenmoose- yup! Lol. This is already my worst video in the history of this channel. I called out the usability of a car made by their god almighty. Haha
@@JamesKlafehn I wonder how they think tesla can improve their products if nobody can criticise!? Oh... I forgot, these cars were made perfect from the outset? Right fanboys??
Kris -Greenmoose- exactly! It’s cult like behavior. Blinders on and excuses for anything you don’t agree with.
Some of the problems wouldn't exist if the car would have normal doors. Frameless windows are crap.
Exactly! Thanks for commenting!
MADE IN CALIFORNIA FOR CALIFORNIA
Wish we were friends! I could of warned you of all these problems!
How could a
100k electric vehicle not have heated mirrors?? My 25k civic has them!
I’ll be honest... the only thing that would piss me off is the lack of heated mirrors. I have a 1983 Porsche 944... that’s right... 1983 and it has heated mirrors. I have a 2018 Subaru Forester... and of course it’s got heated mirrors. So yeah, I’m right with you... it should have heated mirrors for the price point.
This is wrong information. Of course it has heated mirrors
Chuck Norris so it does have heated mirrors then? I was gonna say, Teslas are pretty advanced, I was surprised to hear about not having heated mirrors.
@@readyforpushbackjet Yes, it does! Just turn on the rear window defroster.
From owners manual:
"Also, both exterior side mirrors have heaters that turn on and off with the rear window defroster."
@Chuck Norris okay then, yeah... that’s exactly how they work in my Forester and my Porsche... thanks for clarifying
It does. I was wrong. Ill eat my crow in a future video about it. I challenge you to find where it says it has heated side view mirrors in the manual though.
Ehm doyou that you have heated Mirrors?
You just must push the rear window defogging Button!!
I wish that was in the manual. Thank god the car is long gone. Worst car ive ever owned.
But if you know that’s gonna happen (due to the design), you don’t open the rear (with snow/rain on it) when the side doors are open. Not that difficult.
Some people are ok with having rules and a checklist just to get into their model X. I am not however. I think its really stupid. Thanks for watching and commenting! I appreciate it!
Its probably because its 2016 model bc 2020 model has added sensors om falkon doors and it does not stop opening when something is blocking it.
Like so he sees this.
This was a brand new 2019. It was like a month old. Its just the way the car is. and still is.
simple brush snow off before opening boot....silly.
And how do you get the brush if it's in the boot...?
@@Xanthopteryx - You have to carry the brush in your pocket at all times like your iPhone...lol. Maybe only in the winter. Tesla could invent a phone that doubles as a brush maybe? lol
And brush off the rain too.
@@stupidas9466 - Yes, you see Elon Musk is a genius....lol. Rain and snow and the price for this product? $400, or you can use the flam thrower he sells to dry rain off....lol
NO ALASKA FOR THE TESLA MODEL XMAS LOL
Even on my 25 year old dodge, I clean off the roof, trunk and windows before opening any anything. Because otherwise when I open the trunk, snow would get in. Same with snow from opening the doors. So that issue exists on others albeit not quite as bad. But EASILY avoidable.
As far as running the vehicle, running a gas car for 10 minutes would cost more than that.
The other issues, yes that’s a bummer. Keeping the car in the garage overnight makes a HUGE difference.
Yes I do clean the snow off. But when you drive in the snow snow continues to pile up on the back window under the spoiler. So when you park and open both doors at the same time the snow slides into the car. Lots of fanboys bust my balls about it but I LIVED WITH IT. Im sure they are living in sunny SOCAL or have a garage. Its a real problem.
Then there are the doors and windows. They freeze shut all the time. Sure you can make excuses for those too or offer crazy coatings and solutions but the bottom line is that a car should serve the basic functions of a car! I have lived in winter my entire life. I have owned all kinds of cars. Shitty ones that only cost $300 all the way up to this $100,000 Tesla. Ive owned trucks, Ive owned cars. IN 30 YEARS I HAVE NEVER HAD SO MUCH TROUBLE WITH A VEHICLE. EVERY SINGLE CAR HAS BEEN ABLE TO OPEN AND DRIVE DOWN THE ROAD EXCEPT THIS POS TESLA.
Argue if you want, disagree if you want but I'm not being unrealistic expecting my doors to open and to be able to drive the car in the cold.
I will never buy a Tesla!!! Thank you James for these videos!
Thanks for watching! I thank god every day that this car is gone!
@@JamesKlafehn No problem!!! I was fascinated at how many problems you had with this car! I can't believe how many problems you had! That's just crazy to me!
My model X has heated side view mirrors
Mine does too
Test-drove a Model-X for two weeks in summer and had some issues but generally liked it. Regarding winter: you are aware that you have to clean any car from the snow before getting in, no? Everybody living in the Alps knows and does that. If door seals stick, put some silicone spray on them every fall and you will be fine. I have similar issues with my VW sometimes with doors not opening and it's usually the seal frozen. Silicone spray will remove this problem from the list. Snow falling inside the car when it is not pre-cleaned - happens to every other non falcon wing door as well to a bigger or lesser degree. So, really no issue there. You are even fined by the police in Europe if you don't clean the snow off your car before driving. And yes - get an ice-scraper, like everyone else does who lives in countries where it snows! So, the only thing that really is left for me here is the mirrors not folding. Yes, that should be sorted out, but this is an issue that not only Tesla has but several premium cars.
I hear that all the time. Yes I do clean the snow off. But when you drive in the snow snow continues to pile up on the back window under the spoiler. So when you park and open both doors at the same time the snow slides into the car. Lots of fanboys bust my balls about it but I LIVED WITH IT. Im sure they are living in sunny SOCAL or have a garage. Its a real problem.
Then there are the doors and windows. They freeze shut all the time. Sure you can make excuses for those too or offer crazy coatings and solutions but the bottom line is that a car should serve the basic functions of a car! I have lived in winter my entire life. I have owned all kinds of cars. Shitty ones that only cost $300 all the way up to this $100,000 Tesla. Ive owned trucks, Ive owned cars. IN 30 YEARS I HAVE NEVER HAD SO MUCH TROUBLE WITH A VEHICLE. EVERY SINGLE CAR HAS BEEN ABLE TO OPEN AND DRIVE DOWN THE ROAD EXCEPT THIS POS TESLA.
Argue if you want, disagree if you want but I'm not being unrealistic expecting my doors to open and to be able to drive the car in the cold.
@@JamesKlafehn I get your frustration. I found the Model X' riding quality lacking, the ventilation system didn't work well for me and i felt lost in the seats because the elbow supports were to far to the side. There are definitely more refined cars. Also, I once opened the rear doors first in rain and then the trunk door and a gush of water rushed onto the rear seats. Not ideal. However, I think I can live with such shortcomings if I buy a Tesla for the price of a Model Y, given the savings in gas and maintenance. Regarding sticky doors - really try some silicone spray on the door seals! In Austria and Switzerland, where I live, this is available at every gas station and people use it on all kinds of cars. Just apply it once before winter begins and your doors will not freeze to the seals.
@@ensatlantic Thankfully I dont have to try anything to make this $100,000 functioning. It was bought back after about 7 months of ownership. So thankful that its gone!
I never complained about the climate controls but I thought they were bad too. The windows were constantly fogging over and every time I opened a door the car would be freezing on the inside and I had to crank the heat to get it warm again. But every time youd open a door again you would again lose all of your heat. I didnt complain about this because I am sure fanbitches would trash me and tell me I was an idiot like usual.
I actually really loved the ride quality. Do you have one with air suspension? I did. It was awesome.
@@JamesKlafehn I had a 2017 model with air suspension but not yet the new Raven version. I am sure the Raven is much better. Perhaps the lack of body roll irritated me, since the weight distribution is so much different to an ICE car. Maybe I will buy a Model Y later in 2021 when they come out in Europe. If I really don't like it, it will be very easy to sell it again and get a Toyota instead. The Model X is just too expensive to live with so many imperfections - I really agree on that.
@@ensatlantic The 2017 had air suspension?
You see that room with the big door behind you it's called a CAR GARAGE not storage garage.
I have things more expensive than this car in my garage. But thanks for the snark.
Elon Musk: Tesla's are great!
Winter:
You need to finish that garage you have started. I like your videos for a different point of view but if you have a Model X and some land, get that baby inside!
Jason Chalk thank you for watching! That shouldn’t be the answer though. I shouldn’t have to build a $50,000 garage keep my Faberge egg safe. Lol I don’t have the money for the garage. What you see on the right are racks for Firewood
@@JamesKlafehn Looked like the framing for a pole barn. Regardless, I would hate to have to clean off any of my cars in the snow you guys get! I would find a way to get those cars inside in the winter, or at least a popup car park or something. Sun, Water and moisture are the enemy of any vehicle. That is why my X is always parked on concrete in the garage. I want my bad boy to last 10+ years!
Jason Chalk I would LOVE to have a larger garage! Maybe someday. Thanks for watching!
@@jchalk59 not everyone has the luxury of having a garage. Yea it would be nice but it certainly should not be the answer to owning a vehicle
You cant get in the back because there are sensors in the door and the snow is telling the sensors that there’s an obstacle right outside the door, just clean all the muck off the car its not that hard
I did tap it with my foot but it was frozen to the car. Im not going to break out the sledge hammer to my $100,000 car. My point was that a door should open.
@@JamesKlafehn Bud if you live in winter climates you should have a snow scraper. Stop being Lazy
Why don't you clear the snow off of your doors...?
You shouldnt have to clear snow off the doors for them to open.
Back door doesn't open: clear the ice and frozen snow from the door. Sensors think that there is something OR its too heavy to open. You had huge thing on the door.
Clean the car better, all cars drop snow inside if you don't clean them. You cleaned Toyota's (was it toyota?) Door Frame before opening. You should know this, would exept this from California driver, not NY.
Allu_ Tube I did lightly kick the snow and ice but it’s on the door. I didn’t want to damage the door. Those are normal conditions in snowy weather. The doors should open
the problem is the rear passenger doors of the tesla , when its open and you then open the trunk thats whay the snow falls inside it does not happen to the toyota
Well, i cannot bring hot water with me everywhere i travel. Stupid design is what it is. Nothing more, nothing less.
Glad it handles well in the snow. The side mirrors are heated and please brush the snow off your car. 😂
Thanks for the info
Yes I do clean the snow off. But when you drive in the snow snow continues to pile up on the back window under the spoiler. So when you park and open both doors at the same time the snow slides into the car. Lots of fanboys bust my balls about it but I LIVED WITH IT. Im sure they are living in sunny SOCAL or have a garage. Its a real problem.
Then there are the doors and windows. They freeze shut all the time. Sure you can make excuses for those too or suggest crazy coatings for the rubber seals but the bottom line is that a car should serve the basic functions of a car! I have lived in winter my entire life. I have owned all kinds of cars. Shitty ones that only cost $300 all the way up to this $100,000 Tesla. Ive owned trucks, Ive owned cars. IN 30 YEARS I HAVE NEVER HAD SO MUCH TROUBLE WITH A VEHICLE. EVERY SINGLE CAR HAS BEEN ABLE TO OPEN AND DRIVE DOWN THE ROAD EXCEPT THIS POS TESLA.
Argue if you want, disagree if you want but I'm not being unrealistic expecting my doors to open and to be able to drive the car in the cold. Every single car I have ever owned has opened in the winter except this one.
Lastly, Im sure you didnt watch the video because that wasnt the only issue with it as a winter car. Did you watch till the end?
Being in canada... i know how you feel...
Not good for winter weather, not good for rainy days.
Is the model x just good for Californian weather?
yes.
Rich Rebuilds also complained about many of these Model X issues in the winter: ua-cam.com/video/ecmwWZmaU0A/v-deo.html
I saw that. Thanks for watching and commenting! I appreciate it!
Where I live, we have ice scraper - brush tools made to to knock the snow off of the car and clear the windows.
Also, it might help to not leave the side door open when you open the trunk.
Me : haha idc There is no snow where I live
I figured. Lots of people who have thumbs downed this video live somewhere it doesnt snow.
Ice SUCKS for us all. Seems like the X was made for sunny cali weather. Lots of hose work needed to get things moving in cold places, and looks like even more is required for the X. I am a huge Tesla fan and we really do need more videos like these so they get their sht together and improve their pitfalls. My Cybertruck is on order as well and with any luck, they will make it more winter-ready. Great and HONEST video, ignore all the whiners who give you grief
Thank you so much for the positive comment! I will never understand the fanboys who want to defend Tesla unconditionally. Seeing our faults is the only way to improve. Denying there is a problem is refusing to improve.
@@JamesKlafehn Exactly!
I am not a Tesla fan boy I have a Land Rover Discovery 5 but I find this video a bit silly. Why not use the preconditioning, I do on my Discovery and after 10 minutes it’s pretty clear. Also you have to clear the snow off your car before you open doors etc. as it’s bound to fall in to the car. I opened the front door of my Discovery in the snow and a load of it fell on to the leather drivers seat. I have also experienced the door handles freezing. What I am saying is these problems are going to be there on most makes of car.
Snow accumulates under the rear spoiler when driving. Preconditioning doesnt help that. When you open the rear door it will slide in.
You cant always precondition. Imagine any emergency or something spontaneous. You cant leave the house without preconditioning the X in cold temps. Thats so lame.
@@JamesKlafehn that's not really my point James, my point is that these issues are the same on most cars, whether its the MX, a LF Discovery, a BMW X5 or a Range Rover. I have owned all of these except the MX and can honestly say I have experienced these problems on all of these cars. Good review anyway it gets everyone talking.
@@sulek1959 I have been driving in winter conditions my entire life. I have never ever, not once had an issue with my doors freezing shut. With the X it happens every single day. Im so glad its gone! Horrible vehicle!
Grew up, 25 years, in southern California (no snow winters). Been in MD for almost 4 unless I'm out of country...2yrs w our Volvo in South korea before MD. If there is snow on my cars I brush it off before I get in... Is that irregular? Did it for our Volvo, caravan, geo metro, spark EV, leaf and S.... Se of the problems you mention sound like they can be reasonably dealt with. You have a 2 car garage, too? Like, the stuff in the garage is of more value than your X or daily drivers? While these are issues worth mentioning I am confused as to why you are not using the resources you have to alleviate .... Them. You have the ability to nearly permanently fix these issues for yourself with relatively minor adjustments. I e. Brush off snow, use garage for parking.
That is the one thing that everyone is stuck on. The snow. I think people stopped watching after the snow. lol Thanks for watching and commenting! I appreciate it!
Now I'm really happy I didn't buy it two years ago! But I'm sure people living down south really enjoy their X !
Well, the Y will have a much lower price and simple doors so that will be a better “every mans” SUV especially for winter.
Your icing issues are not unique to Tesla tho, my family lives in NY and they park in the garage or at least under the carport because any car ices over.
Honestly there are cars with trunk or doors are such that they are prone to hitting your head, or water pours in when you open the doors and/or trunk. You can close the falcon door before opening the hatch if it’s covered in snow. Also snow brushes are popular in NY.
You’re cool and all but this is like making a video of your Lamborghini at Lowe’s complaining it’s over $100,000 and sucks for getting plywood.
I live in Florida, so Superchargers everywhere and zero snow.
Model X is popular with rich folks and Realator’s.
You need a Performance Y.
Jim Jenkins thank you for calling me cool! LOL I know, I know. I’m tired of these videos too but these are real problems and no one is talking about them. I don’t think I’m nitpicking. My wife hates the car. She hates that we need a checklist in order to get into it. I’ve lived in heavy snow conditions my whole life. I’ve never had a car that I couldn’t get into or close the door, regardless of price. Imagine there was an emergency and you had to drive to the hospital. If your car wasn’t preheated, you’re not leaving the house in an X.
James Klafehn fair enough, but again any car could have the doors and/or locks and/or handles ice/freeze over. Putting the expensive one in the garage during winter is a solid life hack.
Jim Jenkins i’m sure doors freezing shut CAN happen with other cars however, like I said, I’ve been driving in winter conditions my entire life. I’ve had a lot of cheap and crappy cars. I’ve never once had a car that I couldn’t get into because it was frozen shut. Never in my life. But with the X, that is the case almost every single day. I’m not a statistician but that seems pretty black and white based on my experience.
@@olemissjim A garage doesn't help when you use the vehicle and park it somewhere else. It doesn't only snow when you're at home.
@@olemissjim
OK, so what do you do when you go to work for 8 hours and have to park outside.
I have the exact same car, a Model X with the raven drivetrain, built in June. I had a leaky falcon wing door on delivery. The service center fixed it and I’ve had no other issues. I parked it outside all winter, in Illinois, where it saw plenty of snow. I don’t doubt you’re frustrated with the company, and I’ve generally liked your videos, especially of the rav4, but lately the tone seems like nit picking. “Clean the snow off of the car” is a solution to most of what you’ve experienced here. Note: I get it man, at the price this car should be perfect, and isn’t. Mine wasn’t either.. but it isn’t a horrible winter car, and I’ve driven it all winter, and put 20k miles on since delivery in July.
Ryan Huber thank you so much for watching and for your comment! I appreciate your opinion but I really don’t think I’m nitpicking. I’m really trying to love this car but so many stupid little things keep coming up. We have a two-year-old so I always have to remember not to open the rear door when my wife is putting him into the car seat. My wife hates this car. She hates that we have to have a checklist in order to even get into it. Imagine there was an emergency and we had to go to the hospital. If the car wasn’t preheated we would not be able to leave the house. I think that’s pretty bad.
I LOVE the Tesla Model x, but Tesla needs to start doing more cold weather testing.
Exactly.
Looks like you have a garage....we do to...good to keep vehicles in the garage, especially when it is cold out. We live in New England.
Ive never kept my cars in a garage and Ive always been able to get into them. Ive lived in upstate NY all my life. A car shouldnt need to be garaged or need to be preheated in order to get inside of it OR to close the doors once you do get into it. So glad this car is gone! Worst car ever!
Keeping vehicles in a heated garage in winter makes them rust 10x faster, not just the body but frame etc. Bad idea.
Maybe start parking in the garage? I feel like that's what they are made for.
Ive lived in upstate NY my entire life. I have owned all different types of cars. Cheap ones that only cost a couple hundred bucks and this POS that cost almost as much as my first house. I was able to get into every single car every time.... Until this one. If you cant get into the car in the winter that is a problem. This car has many problems though. So glad its gone back home.
Makes sense if it were a model S/X . The owner probably has money to park inside a garage. Though it is silly to say the same thing if its for Model 3/Y. Just gonna assume everyone is going to have a garage? That's not realistic, unless Tesla is aiming to only target a minority in cities with colder climate.
Maybe, i mean, maybe, you should get rid of the snow before trying to open the falcon doors. And NOT open the back trunk door with falcon doors open... doesn’t seem so difficult
Typical fanboy response. Did you keep watching past that? Are you ok with owning a car that you cant get into in cold weather?
What you never heard of a Snowbrush
Don't fix things that are not broken...All that money wasted on technology. I love a regular automatic car 2000,s decade.
have you tried to clean the car before use? or does it already require high intelligence?
Snark heard loud and clear fanboy. Yes I do clean the snow off. But when you drive in the snow snow continues to pile up on the back window under the spoiler. So when you park and open both doors at the same time the snow slides into the car. Lots of fanboys bust my balls about it but I LIVED WITH IT. Im sure they are living in sunny SOCAL or have a garage. Its a real problem.
Then there are the doors and windows. They freeze shut all the time. Sure you can make excuses for those too or suggest crazy coatings for the rubber seals but the bottom line is that a car should serve the basic functions of a car! I have lived in winter my entire life. I have owned all kinds of cars. Shitty ones that only cost $300 all the way up to this $100,000 Tesla. Ive owned trucks, Ive owned cars. IN 30 YEARS I HAVE NEVER HAD SO MUCH TROUBLE WITH A VEHICLE. EVERY SINGLE CAR HAS BEEN ABLE TO OPEN AND DRIVE DOWN THE ROAD EXCEPT THIS POS TESLA.
Argue if you want, disagree if you want but I'm not being unrealistic expecting my doors to open and to be able to drive the car in the cold. Every single car I have ever owned has opened in the winter except this one.
Lastly, Im sure you didnt watch the video because that wasnt the only issue with it as a winter car.
@@JamesKlafehn you can only repeat this ?I'm not a Tesla fan. If it's not good to sell. I've watched several of your videos. You're pathetic. there are people of this intelligence level who believe you in this much bullshit.
@@andrasadam3238 I see nothing pathetic about his videos - except an expensive car that was designed for a sunny warm climate and fails in the cold.
Park it in covered garage heheh
Since you complain about your car, why not get rid of it and get something else? Every car has it's own issues, none are perfect. Your next car will have problems too. I live in Tahoe where it snows all the time and i haven't experienced this issue with our X. I brush off the snow and get in just fine. I do preheat it for a few mins before getting in but not for an hour. The door has frozen before but so has my wife's Audi door. My old Jeep door froze too. We also preheat my wife's Audi so no difference there. I will say though that I keep it in a garage for 80% the time. You should too with a Tesla! I've read other comments where you've said "I've lived in cold weather for all my life and hadn't needed a garage". Not good enough man. You have a 85k plus car. Garage it. And since you don't have a garage, don't get such an expensive car. At least that's my perspective on it, obviously you feel differently about it.
My experience with our X has been awesome so far (about 7 months) with no issues at all except for 1 thing. It wouldn't initiate a software update once but I scheduled an appointment and they fixed the issue remotely. Took one and a half days after I scheduled it. So your service experience has been different from mine. My coworker has a S and the service has been good for him as well. Every car company has complaints about their cars. Go to any Mercedes forum and you'll read thousands of complaints about what's wrong with the car. Pissed off owners just like you.
I don't know why you belittle people who like their Tesla. It's not a good look on you.
I get it, you obviously don't like your X but that in no way means it's not a good car for the hundreds of thousands of other X owners out there.
I guess you can call me a fanboy now (like it's a bad thing).
Ronin Z hello! Thank you so much for watching. Lots of comments but I’ll try to respond.
1. I do have it for sale but only low ball offers.
2. If you keep yours garaged you wouldn’t experience these problems. But one of my points is that you shouldn’t NEED a garage for your car. I’ve had many different cars, even really crappy cars, and none of them have ever frozen closed. Ever, my entire life, not one. But the X freezes almost every day if it’s below 32f. That’s no bueno.
3. I’m sorry you think I am belittling you. I used to be twice the fanboy you are so I know you. I’m sure my tone towards fanboys is from the negativity I’ve been receiving from them. If I showed you the emails and messages I’ve received you’d cringe. That’s why I had to take down my email from my UA-cam channel and each individual description in each video. It was a TON OF WORK! It took days. But I was receiving so much hate for just telling my story. All I was doing was talking about my experience with the car and what Tesla was doing to me. Then when Tesla screwed me and I had to pay $4000 for damage they caused no one would help me. I emailed and tweeted all of the Tesla fans that I knew. They all refused to retweet, talk about, or share my story. So yeah, I guess that experience with fanboys might come across in my videos. It’s not for nothing unfortunately.
4. I am so glad you have had a great experience with Tesla. That’s all I ever wanted. I loved Tesla. I loved everything they were doing. I wanted to be a part of it. Seems like 40% of people have an amazing experience. I am very glad you got lucky.
Thank you so much for watching and your comment.
@@JamesKlafehn Here's the thing, if you switched out the name "Tesla" with BMW in your titles, the BMW "fanboys" would be all over you as well. There are fanatical car enthusiasts for every brand. You would be getting those same emails from BMW fans as well. My point is, you're on a public platform bitching about an issue you feel is wrong. What did you expect? You put yourself in that position by agreeing to put up a video on UA-cam. In a perfect world, sure, it would be great if no one came after you in the comment section, email, or messaging. But this isn't a perfect world, in fact, it's the digital world which opens you to criticism even more. I've never understood celebrities who complain about not being able to go out in public due to the recognition they receive. They knew what comes with the territory beforehand yet still complain about it. Same thing here, if you put up a video, any video on a public platform, you know what comes with that. The good and the bad!
As to asking for help from Tesla owners/fans to retweet your issue and not getting the help you hoped for, that's unfortunate. But again, we live in a big boy/girl world...what did you expect? Did you expect to cause a ruckus to gain the attention from Tesla management to rectify your issue? I've actually seen incidents where this did work but I in no way would expect help from anyone if I had an issue with my car. It would be awesome if help would have came but we're adults and need to take care of it ourselves.
I just dont get why people feel the need to go on UA-cam and complain about a issue they have for the whole world to see then complain about the negativity they receive on that issue.
I get it man, you feel wronged and burned about the situation and also felt no one at Tesla has listened. You also feel attacked by Tesla fans for the issue you clearly feel is Tesla's fault. Got it and you're not alone for the countless other people who feel the same way about their particular issue from X, Y, Z company. This cycle has gone on since the dawn of business and while I'm not saying it's right, I'm also saying deal with it like an adult, take care of it, and move on. It happens. You're not the first to bitch about something and certainly won't be the last.
Call me old school I guess in which I wouldn't feel the need to go on UA-cam, Twitter, or any other platform to publicly complain about a situation I'm dealing with then expect a positive result. You went from being a fanboy of Tesla and attracting like mind people to attracting the other side of like minded people who doesn't like Tesla. Maybe that gives you vindication, who knows.
If you feel that wronged about it, get a lawyer and take some action. You may get some movement. Otherwise, chalk it up as life like the rest of us have to do and deal with it.
You're in the public eye with posting videos about your issues. You've agreed to UA-cam's user agreement. You're in the digital world and open yourself up to comments, emails and messages. This comes with the good, bad and ugly. You certainly shouldn't sound demeaning to Tesla fans in your videos and comments knowing damn well this is what happens on the internet. It's not just Tesla fans, it's all fans of all categories that you'll feel the wrath of when posting publicly on an issue. Comes with the territory and it may be time to suck it up and move on.
Getting clicks and posting videos may not be worth the criticism if it turns a person to the dark side my friend. I've been there man and that feeling manifests, builds up and turned my soul ugly.
Wish all this wouldn't have happened to you with your car and with the company. I had a car accident years ago where it wasn't my fault but my insurance screwed me out of 7k. Obviously I was furious and pissed. It sucks but situations happen to all of us. Like you, I howled at the moon to everyone from the secretary to CEO. Nothing helped and got no help from anyone. I took them to court and lost. Knowing the other person caused the accident and got off while I had to pay $7k took my pissed off to another level. So I hear ya.
But in no way did I feel like posting a video about it. Why? It would open me up to all the crazies on the internet and I would rather stubb my toe 100 times than to deal with that poison.
But that's just me, obviously you feel the need to do it but remember what comes with the territory by doing it. Ugly people coming at you in the comments are not Tesla fans, it's unfortunately humans being humans no matter what brand.
I'll watch your previous videos on your issue and if it's what you claim, I'll bring it to the attention of people I know and let it ride from there.
Don't take my long comment the wrong way, I truly want the best for you and your family. There's fault on both sides pertaining to the public response.
@@ronin7645 Wow you win for the longest comment ever. Thank you for posting! I did read it but I dont think I should reply to every point. It sounds like you might be new here. Yes, please please watch my "Service Issues" play list. You will see I started out very optimistic. I still loved the car and Tesla despite the issues. I just rewatched them all myself. You can see my tone change with each video. Im sure it will help you understand why I now have this tone.
With that said, I dont think all of my videos are negative. Sure I drop a few comments about fanboys here and there but its all true. They can be ruthless. As for BMW fanboys, yes I know all companies can have fanboys. But Tesla fanboys are the most eager to make excuses for Tesla. For a lot of them its a movement. Its about social change and saving the environment. Its not just about being a fan, its a boarder line advocacy group. Just like Altria Group wont tell you cigarettes are bad, most fanboys wont tell you that Tesla has problems.
My only reason for continuing these is to help people make an educated decision when it comes to buying a Tesla. Its not all sunshine and butterflies like in other youtubers videos. I am a real person with a real family and Tesla has put us through the wringer! Extremely difficult to work with, HORRIBLE COMMUNICATION, and I still have a $4000 bill for damage their towing company caused. I honestly dont care if some people get angry or unsubscribe. Those are not the people I am trying to help. I CAN tell you that I have received many stories from people who have also had issues with Tesla. When Tesla buys a car back though they require the customer sign an NDA. So that's why you dont hear these stories. I was told off the record and I cannot talk specifics. I can only talk about my own, very real, experience with Tesla.
@@ronin7645 Damn my last comment was cut off. I dont know what happened that sucks.
@@JamesKlafehn It was the longest comment I've ever wrote lol. And this one may be the 2nd.
If you don't care if people get angry, post negative comments, or negative emails, why are you responding and commenting about it? Of course you care or you wouldn't be commenting about it. I know it's tough not to respond to negative comments when you feel those comments are wrong but that's what it takes. It's like these celebrities acknowledging they shouldn't have responded to a negative twitter comment but couldn't resist. Then they post a tweet or make a video about all the hate they received. Duh!!
Eventually they learn it's not healthy to respond and understand how the digital world works. Its ruthless but again, it's fair game.
With most people I follow, they don't respond to neagative comments on their channel because logically, why? No good comes from it and more times than not, it ends up looking like two school kids arguing who's right or wrong. No net benefit.
I've read many comments from you either initiating or responding about Tesla fanboys so obviously you care. Would recommend truly not caring or at the very least, not responding. Take the high road, so to speak
Personally, my X has been the best car I've owned and that's NOT fanboy talk. It's everyday experience. It's not at all perfect and there are some things I wish were different about the car but neither is a Lambo or Bentley for that matter. The hatch spilling snow or water down into the seat is a non issue for my family. (2 kids) Why? Because I knew about it before I bought the car. I don't open the hatch when it's raining or there's built up snow on it while my kids are getting in. I open it before or after they get in on those rare occasions. It's an absolute non issue. However in your video, you make it sound like a big issue. It's not.
If you want to come across as a real person giving a real experience, you can't make non issues sound like a big issue. You can bring it up but not the way you're making it out to be. It's disingenuous at the least or overdramatic at most.
Your tone and rhetoric in your videos are clearly negative biased which means you CAN NOT give an honest and unbiased view. I get the reasons why but don't fool yourself.
Again, my intent isn't to be argumentative. However, some of the points you've mentioned can be considered fallacy logic. But I get it. How can you be subjective when you felt like you've been screwed right? The simple answer is you can't but dont fool yourself in thinking you are.
Would I ever go back to that insurance company that screwed me out of $7k? Nope. Would I make videos about my experience with it or complain about their fans? Hell no. Would I be soooo pissed at the company to point out "flaws" of the product with a tone and act like the product sucks when it doesn't? Of course not.
Food for thought. Still rooting for a quick resolution to your Tesla issues.
Maybe park it in a garage? Now if you don’t have one then it’s small stuff you don’t like
Not everyone in upstate ny has a garage.
Thank you for the honest review. Such a bad design.
Thanks for watching!
For less than 100k I’d rather get the Toyota Land Cruiser and I’d get a car that would last me 300,000 miles; it also would depreciate less than the Tesla. (Not to mention it’s built for rough conditions)
The fanboys would say "but then you have to pay for gas and you will pollute the earth!!!" lol
Yup
Glad I’m getting a Model Y
The 3 seems like better quality than the X so I bet the Y will be good. Is service good in your area?
@@JamesKlafehn yeah i was planning on a used X but it just has too many problems with all its complicity. Hopefully it is, located in LA so theres a few within reach
Subie Diaries I definitely wouldn’t buy anything other than a 2019+ Raven if you HAD to have one. Older ones had issues. The raven is a much better car. I wouldn’t do it over again if I could though.
Just think for that amount of money you could have just bought a Chevy stingray.
Hello, anyone with climate control problem? In winter I can’t keep a comfortable temperature and always have a foggy windshield. Children are cold.
A/C on or off: no difference
Recirculation off: too much cold
Recirculation on: temperature ok but foggy windows
Thank you
I TOTALLY AGREE! I always had this problem. I never brought it up because Im sure fanboys would tell me I was just an idiot. But I knew I wasnt crazy! My windows were ALWAYS FOGGING UP! It also drove me crazy that every time I opened a side door it would be freezing cold again because all the heat would get out.
Set the climate control to auto, that's the best way to avoid fogging in a Tesla. Do not try to use manual climate control.
Isn't that why you buy an expensive Tesla? So you can feel like you're driving around in a 1950 milk truck? Kids whining about their fingers and toes? Can't see out the windows? Sure, that's what you should expect for big bucks...