Model X Plaid -11 Degree Winter Stress Test (Charging + Performance)
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- Опубліковано 10 чер 2024
- Model X Plaid stress test in -11 degree conditions traveling 300 miles to Mammoth Mountain. Charging, performance, range and cost vs it's ICE vehicle counterparts.
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CHAPTERS
0:00 Outlining the challenges (Weight, Elevation, Range)
1:00 Supercharging stops
1:26 Outgoing Supercharger Stop #1
1:58 Outgoing Supercharger Stop #2
2:27 Arrival + Following Morning
3:43 All Season Tire Initial Review
4:28 Frozen Battery Data
4:54 Frozen Battery Supercharger Planning (Rate + Range)
5:15 PROBLEM - Gull wing doors won't open
7:22 Frozen Battery Supercharger planning
7:27 PROBLEM - Regen tire slippage
7:40 Frozen Battery Supercharger Stop
9:00 Pros & Cons of the Plaid in Winter Conditions
9:05 Pros (Power, Handling, Comfort, Range)
10:05 Cons (Gull wing doors)
11:25 PROBLEM Regen braking in winter conditions
11:33 Model X Plaid NEEDS Track Mode
12:28 Charging State preparing for Overnight Storage
12:47 Snowboarding + Downhill Regen Riding Home
13:13 Return Trip Supercharger Stop #1
13:23 Return Trip Supercharger Stop #2
14:05 Arrival Home (600 mile Roundtrip Complete)
14:54 Conclusions + Charging Costs
17:32 Comparing same trip to Model Y Long Range
17:54 BONUS Snowboarding Trip Insta 360 Cam highlights
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CHAPTERS
0:00 Outlining the challenges (Weight, Elevation, Range)
1:00 Supercharging stops
1:26 Outgoing Supercharger Stop #1
1:58 Outgoing Supercharger Stop #2
2:27 Arrival + Following Morning
3:43 All Season Tire Initial Review
4:28 Frozen Battery Data
4:54 Frozen Battery Supercharger Planning (Rate + Range)
5:15 *PROBLEM* - Gull wing doors won't open
7:22 Frozen Battery Supercharger planning
7:27 *PROBLEM* - Regen tire slippage
7:40 Frozen Battery Supercharger Stop
9:00 Pros & Cons of the Plaid in Winter Conditions
9:05 Pros (Power, Handling, Comfort, Range)
10:05 Cons (Gull wing doors)
11:25 *PROBLEM* Regen braking in winter conditions
11:33 Model X Plaid NEEDS Track Mode
12:28 Charging State preparing for Overnight Storage
12:47 Snowboarding + Downhill Regen Riding Home
13:13 Return Trip Supercharger Stop #1
13:23 Return Trip Supercharger Stop #2
14:05 Arrival Home (600 mile Roundtrip Complete)
14:54 Conclusions + Charging Costs
17:32 Comparing same trip to Model Y Long Range
17:54 *BONUS* Snowboarding Trip Insta 360 Cam highlights
Bring your Tesla into Northern Canada when it's MINUS 35 CELSIUS ,so cold you toss a cup of water in the air it freezes before touches the ground. Then we'll see how tough Teslas really are
They did a stress test in Norway and found that the Model S + X have the lowest % loss from cold of ANY other EV. I'm sure it would be fine.
there is a option to adjust regen
@@hariparekh7062 not on the plaid - its set to HOLD permanently
@FinanceJunkiespodcast when you are in park it let's you change it. if doesn't you should contact tesla
Watching that brush on the paint just killed my soul.
The brush was super soft. I'm def not looking to scratch it!
@@thegoodtheplaidandtheugly4774 there is no such thing as a soft snow removal brush. You scratched your car for sure.
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I rushed to the comments after watching that part too 😂
Good to see another cold test. I haven't noticed a real battery drop in the cold either, but the heating... Once I turn the heat on, I can see the efficiency get destroyed, lol.
Apparently the S / X platform has a much lower % loss due to cold than the 3 / Y
It hurt to watch when you were using that brush to take off the snow at about the 3 min mark. That scratches up the surface.
That's a typical snow broom. What else would you use?
It was very soft but I did consider bringing my electric leaf blower
@@kamilmarkowicz Wrap a microfiber around the brush. While it's not perfect, it helps when removing snow to minimize scratching
@@williamgarzon4023 Good idea
Was going to say the same. just leave the snow thats on the paint and remove whats on the glass.
The sensivity of the obstacles detection is working. When the rubber sealing around the door gets icy, this presents resistance and the door won't open because of safe mode.
Agree, but I made sure all seals were free of ice before attempting to open. My guess is the motors were incredibly cold
Good and intresting video! Keep up the good work! :)
Thanks really appreciate it!
Thanks for this video
Thank you for watching!
That car is really sweet!
Thanks! I still feel the same as the day I got it
@@thegoodtheplaidandtheugly4774 Holy s... I'm so jealous right! I'm just waiting for it to be me.
@@r.o7897 I hope you get it one day!
15:56 Telsa's Charging Network is going to be even *more* of a nail in the coffin now that they've started opening it up to non Tesla vehicles with the Magic Dock chargers.
Agree - I was against it at first but as long as they increase stations (which they stated at Investor Day yesterday) this move will sell a lot of Tesla's once non-Tesla EV owners see how seamless it is.
If your plaid is ceramic coated then you won’t have scratches. Also clear wraps prevent scratches too.
Winter tires would have worked even better. QQ: Did you warm up the X before trying the doors?
Agree and looked into those but needed an all season option as I'm not in snow that often -C
I did defrost it for a while before trying the doors but that would only do so much. At that price point those doors should open regardless!
@@thegoodtheplaidandtheugly4774 I'd recommend. Turn on internal heat from inside the house/condo/apartment, wait for the alert saying cabin is at desired temp, then try.
@@gamerfromoldtimes8658 I did turn the heat on to HI from inside before I went down and was at 80+ when I got there. From other comments I think the issue is my car in particular as others reported no issues with the GWD's as low as -15.
Do you have a rough idea of how many actual distance driven vs miles of range used? On average, my 22 X plaid uses 100 miles of range for 70 actual miles driven. This is highway driving at about 75MPH mostly flat, temps about 60F.
Interesting. I've never run the #'s but frequently do a drive of 170 miles one way and arrive with out 20% left, which would mean 242.85 miles actual miles drive vs the 311 stated range.
@@thegoodtheplaidandtheugly4774 That's about the same as my observations on my 22 MXP. EPA data shows the 22 Model X Plaid is _more_ efficient compared to a 18 Model X 75D. Unfortunately, either the EPA is way off in their testing, or Tesla provided a test vehicle much different from what you and I received.
@@franebay I think they're generous when they rate range...like ideal conditions, little wind resistance, weight, flat ground etc...
Tesla can utilise space X engineers to do better with the falcon wing doors in cold, they have servos that run in a lot colder conditions! OK Tesla you have the directive time to improve those doors we do not all live and only drive in CA lower elevations!
Recommend staying at the Westin Monache. Free destination charging and heated underground garage. Perfect for Teslas.
Thanks for the tip! Was hoping to find a spot that offered dcharging.
Nice video, thank you Carlos. Let me do some calculations: you have 610 miles for the trip, with $110 total supercharge cost. If we assume current gas price is $4.3/gal, $110 will buy you 25.5 gal of gas, and its equivalent to about 24mpg with a gas vehicle. My Highlander will get me that mileage pretty easy. Where is the cost of saving with Tesla? Let me know your thoughts.
Thank you! Since it was my first trip I charged longer at each stop than the navigation recommended. So I ended up charging (and paying for) enough mileage to go 796.6 miles (+186.6 extra miles based on epa estimates and SOC when I got home) which if my math is correct would mean an ICE vehicle would need an efficiency of 31.2mpg to achieve that range. With the weight, cold, and elevation we'd surely get less in the Tesla but still more than 24mpg.
@@thegoodtheplaidandtheugly4774 bottom line - super charge is not cheap. Owning a Tesla is not as cost saving as they advertised.
@@liminyao It's more expensive than charging at home yes, which is 90% of the time and it's even cheaper.
I would like to share my experience in my friend's model 3 long range on this same route with roof rack carrying ski and snowboards on the roof. It took us about 9 hours on the way up and 7 hours on the way back b/c we were constantly charging. The car performed poorly with roof rack in cold weather and my friend was barely touching 65 mph to optimize the range. The only good thing is his model 3 long range got 1st year free unlimited charging deal. I just did the same route and same setup a few weeks ago in my 4wd station wagon, 3.5l v6. My speed was about 75mph to 80mph outside of LA and the trip lasted about 4.5 hours each way. I only had to stop once in Bishop for gas on the way up and no gas stop on the way back. I went to get gas next day after back in LA and the entire trip cost me $137. It is only $7 extra per passenger in the vehicle for the entire trip comparing to this video super charging. For me, not having to waste hours charging and holding on to my number 1 while my bladder was about to explode is priceless.
@@neversummer78a I can't speak to what happened with your friend's 3 but know that external storage cuts range in both EV's and ICE vehicles. I've never done it in the X but am also curious what the hit would be. This trip the charging added 1 hour, which is 15-30 mins more than it's taken in my friends SUV because we'd stop to eat anyway.
That said, this argument that EV's take too long to charge compared to pumping gas is just silly at this point. Add up all the time you spend driving to and from gas stations in a year, and the time you spend standing there in cold or hot weather filling up and it's way more than the average EV owner spends plugging in at their house 95% of the time plus the 5% supercharger waits. It's nonsense.
Add in the time for oil changes (and cost), transmission / diff maintenance and you ICE owners just don't realize how much time and money your gas car costs you. It's a money suck and they're designed to be that way.
In the last 6 months owning the X I've saved $592.00 vs gasoline and in the MYLR over 1 year we've saved $1,267.00 vs gas with virtually zero maintenance.
I grew up on muscle cars / offroading jeeps and I loved those vehicles so I get the nostalgia. The days of mechanical combustion propulsion is over.
doesn't Teslas have a snow mode now?
Unfortunately no. A friend told me the S has it so I'd imagine it will be offered in a future update. Much needed!
I hope you have PPF the way you were using that brush. And now that Tesla has opened their network your easy peasy charging will be over.
And you probably over-charged too (at least on the way home) so you could've done it quicker.
Yes I would've only charged 35 mins total if I followed the nav's recommendation. Was my first time up there so extra precautious.
LOL winter "stress test", starting in LA.
Yes we have to drive to where there's snow. Crazy concept. -C
The only tesla i'd buy is long range
I have a MYLR - about the same real world range but with smaller battery it is more efficient and cheaper to charge yes. And you can still smoke 99% of ICE vehicles in it!
To open a door on the model x. You could have 0% and it would have more than enough power to run the doors. Lol. State of charge has nothing to do with the door opening slowly. It was cold. The motors are not good and apparently slow down when cold.
Good video otherwise!
Feel it was more an issue of the surrounding metal contracting from the cold
I think EV has there place but 55mins to charge versus 5 to 7 mins at a gas pump is mind blowing waste of time for me.
Once you'e experienced the convenience of charging at home (which is 95% of the time) you realize driving to a gas station and pumping gas is the waste of time.
Bro don’t ever brush your car like that.
Do you
Yes, The inner structure for electrical vehicles remote areas on the West Coast and remote areas of the Midwest up to the Mississippi is not there. That is the problem for EV’s.
Hopefully will get better!
If you have a home charger you should be good to go!