First Ride! CYC X1 Pro GEN 2
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
- This is my first ride out on the CYC X1 Pro Gen 2 motor kit.
SPECS:
CYC X1 Pro Gen 2 motor
CYC Stock (72 volt) controller
6 - 6s 5.8ah Zippy LiPO batteries 18s2p
2012 Turner DHR
Wind noise is a little loud but I wanted everyone to get a feel for the actual sound of the motor.
Hi Ryan, nice to see your video.
The pedal assist can be troubleshoot and fixed with the following steps:
1. Use CYC MOTOR App to increase the zero voltage threshold to 1000mV or 1100mV. (In settings -> sensors -> advanced settings-> throtte) The pedal assist should work right afterwards. This is because the throttle voltage at 0% level is higher than the zero throttle threshold and the controller registers that the throttle is engaged and thus disabling the torque sensor.
2. If it still does not work, please check while you are pedaling to see if there is human power on the app. If yes the torque sensor is connected and working properly.
3. Restore everything to default using the app.
Thanks CYC MOTOR LTD i got my Pedal Assist fixed with these steps
You never see Bafang help troubleshoot in UA-cam videos.
i have got to build one of these now geez thanks for getting in my pockets
you didnt mention which gear you were in atm.
watt battery? Is it 3500?
Nice bike bro, What gears is in that bike, Loves the gear shifter, I just put a bafang on a carrera hellcat lmt edition 29er, Well happy with the build, I am doing a cyc full suspension build myself after xmas, When you finished the fit, its great satisfaction, Yeah this a nice bike bro....
what rapidfire shifter is that?
Hey Ryan how'd you join the batteries you used 3 LIPOS with a serial or parallel connectors?
I have 6 batteries total. You can think of it this way, I have 2 18s lipos (66v) connected in parallel. Each 18s pack consists of 3 6s lipos in series.
Is that a motorcycle fork ?
DH bike fork, i think.
Whats the top speed?
i think he said 35
No long wheelies with throttle lag like that and no torque sensing. I'll stick with my bbshd
BBSXX cant do torque sensing...
Can I buy that I can offer like 4500
1:26 poor guy walking outside with a mask on.
Hi there i got mine a week ago and i encountered the same problems like you, Speed and Torque Sensor are not working right. The speed sensor is working when i spin the wheel back and forth 2mm in front of the magnet but not if the wheel is spinning free. And the Torque sensor is ratling a little bit when i drive 0-3 kmh on PAS 5 but thats it. And sometimes when Stop the ESC or whatever it is (maybe my half twist throttle) is still putting some amps to the motor and its like a cruise control without touching anything, its confusing. But a side from that it putting a smile on my face every ride. Im looking forward to your next Video, keep up the good work.
Love the partial grip 1/4 twist throttle. Left rear right front 203mm discs. With a fast click Shimano shifter. Once you get used to it, you'll prob never want a thumb throttle or a full grip throttle. Best setup ever for riding wheelies. Especially left rear brake.
Just got mine installed. Waiting on the battery; should be receiving this week... Nice install The ASI controller should give you higer RPMs which will equate to higher top speed...
Nice build! Did you upgrade the sprocket & chain? What is the cost ?
Ryan, check de phase controllers from Grin Technologies! High quality products!
I couldn’t get the speed sensor working on mine either. Eventually gave up. Works when I hold it close to the magnet (led on sensor lights up), but doesn’t register on odometer. PAS works great though. Especially in A mode. Zoom and it takes off.
V3 phase Runner, partnership with ASI
Wow time repurpose an old DH bike!!!!
Mod a Bafang shift sensor onto your brake cut off.
Bafanga are quiter then this kyc but i might get one!
"still easy to pedal". Thank you guy from 3 years ago, I've spent the last week wondering if I could use this kit as a regular bike still, it was literally the last thing holding me back on it.
Do you think that a multi-speed drivetrain can last at short periods of 5000w full blast without major consequences and hurting the drivetrain's lifespan?
Looks like Bonsall or Fallbrook...I was a Marine. Excellent video brotha..it helped me. Joshua, Kenosha wisconsin
So in your experience would you say this could be ran on a single speed with a decent top speed? As far as shifting goes you could always get a left hand shifter and a thumb throttle for the right hand.
Yea, a single speed could work but I'd stick to the street for sure. I bet a 30mph top speed is feasible without having acceleration being too bad
SWEET VIDEO! What BMS are you using? Can you recommend a battery BMS for a 72V battery and the ASI 2000 controller
No BMS on mine. Using a 66v LiPo battery
@@RuffRoadDesigns Hey! How is the motor still running?
full powaaaa. im jealous but why is your frame so small or is it just the video angle. that was funy when you went up the hill in the bushes
Very cool you have sold me! I want to buy one now. it looks like so much fun did you ever get used to the half turn throttle or is a thumb throttle better? Thank you
People looking to build a bike. The BBSHD is $300 less. Quieter.Easier to install readily available and PROVEN technology. But it’s not 5000w. True a modded one is 2500w which is More than enough for a bicycle. If you gotta have 5000w buy a Sur-Ron you will be money ahead with once again proven tech. If you like to chase problems and pay to do R&D then disregard
bbshd is prob gnna overheat at 2500w. also on the bbshd, the motor mounts aren't long enough to have much clearance on trails especially with modern day full suspension frames. this is the most powerful mid drive you can get without looking like a dirt bike. meaning you can get away with riding it on the streets. no way you're getting a bbshd and controller under $500.
Bbshd with phaserunner is the same price as this + no torque sensor. So go ahead get a surron and let the big boys ride their bikes.
it doesnt have torque sensor which to people who are not completely lazy and dont just want a little motorbike makes the bbshd undesirable. its pretty strange bafang ommitted this essential feature seeing as torque sensor makes an ebike much more fun. there is a gap in the market for a reasonably powerful (ie 35 mph capable) ebike motor which this one doesnt as its too expensive. you've got to pedal properly when going fast to fool the pigs when bombing up a hill at 25mph. they are not all thick as shit carwankrs - some are actually bike literate. sadly the cyc is too expensive for my budget. hopefully the competition will inspire bafang to pull their finger out
@@andy-the-gardener Spot on.
@@andy-the-gardener Torque sensor made the choice easy for me. I was originally trying to build a Bafang Ultra bike...but the lack of compatible frames make that a pain! CYC's universal fit is great!
Can wait to see a completed battery pack fully 3D printer with controller intergraded.
I heard the circle display doesn't support 72v, how are you using it?
Thanks mate really appreciate the effort U putting in to the videos and your trickedout build.
What a shame about the Pas I would be pissed!!
Thankfully I can watch intrepid explorers as yourself lead the way into the unknown.
Hopefully you'll find the true path to midrive Navarra
Then I can by pas! the faulty trails and head directly to meet U there.
Nice setup! really clean
Rocking the stock controller and a 72v 18ah battery I built on my evil insurgent and having the same issue you did, replacement comes tomorrow. Why did you end up going with the BAC 850 as well?
That’s bike is super fast 💨 yes and please be safe going through the intersections ok 👌🏽 super bike
Will it lift up the front of you compress a bit?
Lovely amount of power but it's far to loud I would get reported with in 5 mins
reported by who. nobody gives a rats ass about ebikes in a car obsessed / dominated world. you think police care about a poxy 2 hp bike.
@@andy-the-gardener yes the sure so you are riding a illegal motor vehicle in there eyes with no tax mot and insurance why don't you build your self a bike and go and ride past a police not pedaling at 30mph and see what happens
@@danielgreen4213 i never advised doing such a thing. as to the law. can you call corporate anarchy the law. the law is an ass in my eyes (basically made by the car industry and other capitalists). at a time ebikes should be encouraged and made attractive as possible (with reason) they are restricted to ridiculously low power outputs to appease the car lobby and contine happy motoring forever. pure insanity. my advise is for everybody to build 'illegal' ebikes, but be subtle. keep to norma(lish) bike speeds (i doubt many people could tell the diffeence between 15 and 25 mph) and at least look like your pedaling. if your not going crazy speeds uphill i doubt the police will be too interested. i dont know where you live but i live in the uk with a 250watt max. thats just taking the piss. if the gov was seriously interested in safety and consistant it would ban cars as they kill and maim millions of people, directly and due to pollution, and global warming will eventaully kill billions due to droughts and floods causing mass starvation.
Hey Ryan,
Quick Q. Can your lipo battery be used in enduro, agressive trail riding with jumps? Do you think it'll be able to handle the massive forces and vibrations?
yeah just protect them from rubbing through or getting punctured and u will be fine. I use these in rc cars that have hit walls at high speed many many times. never a problem
Hi man.. nice bike you built, can I ask you some basics ? I want to put this motor on my hard tail and i have no idea what im doing... What is the right gearing system to buy? I was looking at Shimano XT (1/12 speed) will that fit with motor smoothly?
There is a lot of variables but best to just try what you have now and you can always put a different cassette on later if you need to change the speed range
What's a good bike I can buy to install this one without fitment issues? Doesn't have to be latest/greatest but something that will handle the power.
I just started looking into this. My idea is to use an older down-hill bike like this guy did, Beefy frames, big suspension, big brakes. I have a 2013 Kona operator that I’m looking to set up.
If you go to the CYC web site they have templates you can print and pretty specific dimensions so you can do a mock-up. I did this for the Kona Operator and the X1 Pro easily fits in the frame triangle.
That sound would drive me nuts
Motor is noisy for a stealth one!
You controller 2000?
U mneed a new display
Hi everyone.
It will be a great help any kind person answer.
Thank you
1. Is it waterproof?
2. How much it will cost me in Belgium.
3. Will it be a good choice to have minimum 28km/h for 60 kilometers?
4. I am looking for budget friendly and durable choice. Or I should I buy a used ebike ?
For a bike to commute great distances, and be able to shift gears, a bafang 610 or bbs02 with a 48v 30ah battery (high ah cells like Samsung 50t) will combine efficiency of power usage with great range. There are more powerful designs than that but I think for what you asked, that may be the best choice.
For a budget friendly build, a 500-750 watt 48-52v rear hub is probably the best bet. Get a rack mount battery, and you have room for an extra battery in the frame to add later. Building your own battery is most cost effective.
this cyc kit is super noisy compared to my bbs02...and e-cycling is all about quite time to me.
the CYC can also handle 7X the power compared to a BBS02...
Is it possible to set the motor to 500W? Many websites write that it only goes from 750-5000 W.
The motor will use whatever you feed it...
Love honest review! Good job Brother....💪🏽
Whats your height and weight? And how's the battery life?
All throttle and no pedaling I got about 22 miles per charge.
175lbs and 6'1
@@RuffRoadDesigns seems like plenty of range. Do you agree? Would you trade power for more range, same battery weight?
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So you didn’t go with the Turnigy 6s 20Ah ?
Were they too big?
They where too big. Went with 3 11.8 Ah 22.2v turnigy lipo batteries in series. 67 volts nominal. Still got 25miles range all throttle
@@RuffRoadDesigns
I got the 20 ah to fit on my bike.
45 miles all throttle.
But those batteries are huge
Every electric bike that's meant to be ridden hard has to have a thumb throttle because it gives you the best throttle control, and don't think full twists are better because they are sh¡t because of whiskey throttle.... I seen people fall or get wrecked because someone else touched their throttle and the bike took off.
I tried the thumb throttle and just didn't like it. Never had an issue with twist grip. Much easier to hold onto the bars.
The most powerfull motorcycles all have twist throttle, this is a non problem
Coming from MX, motorcycle throttle is natural feeling.
Domino full twist is as good as it gets, Thumb works but Full twist is better...
As supposed. Prob the noisiest of the assist motors out there. Thank you.
yeah thats what happens with a two stage reduction and high RPM, its not quite as loud as it appears In videos but its far from silent, in a week ill run my CYC with a Nucular 24F controller, no more ASI 🥳.
Yeah plus it is all open
@@motooilermotooiler9597 yeah, if i didnt go Off road (like actually OFF any road/Trail) i would propably switch to a QS205 hub motor for street riding, at the moment i have a battery that can do 120A /10kw peak, once i have the Nucular controller installed i will find out exatly what the CYC X1 can handle, im pretty sure my battery is enough to get max perfomance from a CYC but if not ill have a battery that can do 450A/300A continuous later.
@@-joo3033 I have three factory e-bikes and one of them is a hub 250w motor. It really does great job until really really steep That is IF you prepare to do your input.
When things get really gnarly the mid drive is better but only JUST :) a couple of degrees later the front wheel points to the sky anyways :)
@@motooilermotooiler9597 its more about keeping the rear as Light as possible on a full suspension bike, than about power, ( well i mean DIY, on factory bikes Middrives are usually more powerfull) cause unsuspended weight on the rear triangle is bad, if you do jumps or ride on very rough surfaces you dont want a hub motor, for anything else a direct drive Hub motor is better because it has no moving parts to break.
How mutch cost you all ?
I haven't added up every penny but for bike and all parts about $3k
@@RuffRoadDesigns what kind of bike is that
@@0311mrdayday 2014 or 2015 turner DHR
The throttle lag was programmed in and you have to buy a new controller?? rip off
Don't worry. you can't afford it anyways
@@RollOnBusin so
@@RollOnBusin I have a diy stealth bomber :D