BEST E-bike Mid Drive Conversion Kit of 2022| CYC X1 STEALTH GEN 3
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- Опубліковано 23 сер 2024
- Patented torque sensor technology offers one of the best pedal assist sensations in the ebike world. The CYC torque sensor ensures instant engagement and an intuitive pedal assist experience. The Gen 3 ISIS splined standard torque sensing system ensures durability even with extreme riding.
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14 months later, mine is still running great. It's had had a couple failures, CYC and my dealer took care of them, and it's run well since. I have pretty much 2 usable cogs on the cassette. No chain breakage.
I think this is a fine Motor, I'm happy they are further developing their versions for DIY use.
It sounds louder than I expected after CYC said the gen 3 was significantly quieter. Personally I'm looking forward to the Photon, seems like a proper alternative to BBSxx.
The mic on gopro 10 exaggerated the sound. It's lower and I like the sound.
@@ElectricVehicleSpace Which is louder the CYC or the Bafang? Thanks
@@SilverShadow2LWB The Bafang BBSxx motors are whisper quiet and can't really even be heard on gopros or over normal chain noise, definitely the Bafang is quieter. If only they had torque sensing!
The Photon is really on the same level as the BBS02, it's not really comparable with the BBSHD. I almost ordered a photon because of a bad prior experience with a BBS02, but the X1 gen3 stealth is only $100 more and has double the rated power of the Photon, and 50% more rated power than the BBSHD with the same torque. All the reviewers say the same thing about the noise, that it's exaggerated by the GoPro...we'll see. There is no doubt the BBSHD and the Photon are quieter. The X1 Stealth Gen3 has been ordered.
@@Ry-lx2klwhat was the bad experience with the BBS02?
CYC should offer a full DIY kit ebike along the X1 motor with various frames/components/wires to choose from (already tested and proven) not just the motor and the rest you have to find yourself.
This is coming and I will post soon.
I think it's going to look great when you get everything tied in it's going to be good off and on the road so comfortable with lots of power well done 👏
Yes i think so too. this kit is awesome. Lots to do this weekend.
I’ve done 2000km with the gen-1 Stealth on a hybrid road bike. Very happy with it, but I’m barely tapping a fraction of its potential, as it’s much more power than I need for riding on asphalt. I’m really keen to see how your experience with the Photon turns out. Don’t delay too long, please.🙏🙏🙏
I'm getting a frame in 2 or 3 weeks and video with install and testing coming right away. Something really special is coming for photon kit.
Sounds interesting. I can’t wait.
@@shockadellickI like this better than surron. Lighter and I can workout.
@@shockadellick you just slap on a sticker that says whatever wattage you want even better it you get it engraved 😂
I'm glad that you have riding footage. Have you ridden any "Factory" manufacturer emtbs with shimano ep8, Brose, Bosch, Yamaha, etc motors? How noisy is the Stealth (gen3) compared to those systems?
I did bosch and brose and brose super silent the cyc and bosch almost the same. Bosch only 22mph top speed but cyc at max speed 45mph is a bit louder. Regular riding the same.
Awesome, thanks! What about the Pro g3, compared to the Stealth g3, at regular riding (up to 22 and/or on trails)?
The weight is not bad at all for a full suspension bike, nice build.
Yeahhhh but I was somehow hoping and thinking it will be under 40 lbs. Maybe I can trip some weight somewhere.
@@ElectricVehicleSpace If you put the Stealth on a hardtail, you can get it under 40 lbs. My old 26-inch hardtail with a Gen 1 Stealth and a 52v battery weight about 38 lbs.
@@vmao4868 nice 👌 👍
Great performance on that build. Looking forward to more videos of this exciting motor. Thank you for sharing.
Yes my pleasure. Working on that now. Please share to get more exposure. This kit is so awesome!
I like the batter, they location, looks well fitted, good weight distribution and center of gravity,
IF this was my build I would leave it there,
I am thinking of ditching my cyclone 3000W kit ( gets very hot)and get this one.
Thank you for your videos Does this kit get 3000W?
I ride dirt.
Very nice! Your pedal lights appear to be wrong. White should be forward illumination and red should be rear.
What bike frame is this, thanks
Looks good. My biggest concern is ground clearance for technical trails. It would be great if you showed the suspension aired out and fully compressed and measured the clearance at the motor. No one has done that on any video demos.
I want to order one of these Stealth Kits for my Santa Cruz Bronson. But the talk of everyone waiting several months for parts and kits has my quite concerned, especially given that CYC requires full payment upfront.
I have the Stealth installed on my 2020 Commencal Meta AM 29er. It 's a beast. I have a 430 watt hour battery and its fine for 30 miles epic ride. I used between 1 and 2 for power. to save battery power. The clearance is fine, I took it to the most atrocious rocky, gnarly terrain and it just fine.
@@rufinrl02 sounds great 👍. And saves money vs a ready made ebike at $6000+. And probably less power
Your frame has the same downtube shape that slightly curves out before going up. So clearance would be similar to mine
@@geekane9462 Yes indeed.. In fact I have ordered the Gen 3 version to put it in on my 2021 Specialize Enduro.
Get a triangle shaped battery pack. It will be best to have it inside the frame for some protection when riding trails.
I dont know anyone that makes a battery this compact and it's most likely it will limit performance.
You could use the metal hose pipe clips to attach your battery on the bottom down tube
I thought of that but this battery despite being compact it's heavy and it moves.
I have that exact bike and I love it
I am glad you liked it.
35 mph! I’m currently at 30 mph with the x1 pro (52v, (BAC 855)) but my bike weights 60 lbs and has very aggressive tires.
This new version does more power and speed. I need to install the app and unlock it.
I had to build my own box and mounting for the asi bac 2000 for my x1 pro Gen 2
Gen 2 pro is a beast!
Very nice setup.
Initial response: Got this bike for my friend. ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxUiL0GnyDjP32RJdd660sP8mZk4CRLTCJ Delivery was fast. And the friend was surprised I would order it when she had never suggested she wanted anything but the pedal bike she had. She has now ridden the bike two times and gives it a 10 and says it is very fun. We have some hills in our town that are very challenging to climb on a typical bike. But tonight she went up with the pedal assist and loved it. I was way behind on my standard bike, huffing and puffing. Now she is no longer lagging behind me. This thing is powerful enough that a person could go around town without any pedaling. She likes to get some exercise so on flat ground she hits the red button to turn off pedal assist and only uses the twist throttle when she's in a tough spot. The bike looks good. It is really a very nice bike for the friend. Now for me, when I get an electric bike, I'm twice her size and will be looking for a bigger watt motor and battery. But this one is just wonderful for my friend. I am happy with this purchase.
Love the size, but curious how loud the chain system is. Why didnt they use gears or a belt? How weatherproof is the drive system for riding in the rain…it looks way exposed. The light up pedals are a GREAT IDEA…are they available aftermarket?
Put the battery vertically on the downtube for the seat
Tried and it's reaching the rear wheel. I am thinking to place it in my backpack.
Nice video, please let us know how much range you can get out of that battery. Curious to see how you place the battery. How does the higher position affects the balance?
What type of bottom bracket is needed for this? I’ve been looking for a bike with the right bottom bracket to do a build with this but can’t find one
750w Bafang mid drive, 25 amps, 52v 25ah jumbo shark batt, 48t Lekkie chainring on my 2012 4300 trek mtb.. total weight 55lb.. Throttle only 31-33mph.. full throttle "while peddling" as fast as i can 41.3 mph ..Drafting a box truck on flat ground full throttle while peddling 46.5 mph! Stupid fast!! will never do that again 😬
Have you seen Chimera BMX? Should try to get that on your channel, looks insane.
Thank you for suggesting. I will look into it. Do you have one? If you do what is different or better compare to this X1 Stealth? Ty
@@ElectricVehicleSpace I dont have one, i have just been interested in building a 24" electric bmx and came across it. I ride a 24" bmx in the city, its great as its compact and fast to accelerate. The Chimera is not cheap, but seems to be really well built as he has been on it for over a year. I think he has fully custom motor, drive drain, titanium frame etc on it. Quite well designed system. So its not modular system like the X1.
Does it utilize a gear shift sensor like the bafang kit? How does one handle gear shifts with this kit? Also which hearing did you go with? 11-52 / 32T?
Very nice build, that's kind of what I'm looking to build but not a carbon fiber frame.... I want 72v-80v and a 5000w hub motor on a downhill bike/Electric Enduro frame so I can jump it.
Right now I have a Modified Razor Mx650 that's currently 48v 2000w w/ a 30+ mph top speed but I want the 72v 6000w Electro and Co kit w/ a 60+ mph top speed but I want to get it street legal w/ headlight, brake lights and turn signals and a horn/alarm system... I'd use that to run around town so I don't have to use my car but I want a sidecar so I can do grocery shopping and I can use it to take my son on rides as well. First step is getting a welder and start practicing.... I've spent a lot of time looking for bike sidecars and I figured out I'm going to have to make my own or spend thousands on a motorcycle one and modifying it to work on a bike. LoL
I suggest you wait several weeks. I have a frame that will accompany the photon or better for this kit or 5kw kit gen 2 pro that will blow your mind and you don't need to weld. I think it is coming in 3 weeks.
@@ElectricVehicleSpace - OK... Looking forward to it. 😁
Heavy (and unsprung) hub motors are terrible for off road/jumping, you are definitely going to want a mid drive for that type of use.
I don't know what state you are in, but no way is this going to be a legal set-up. Most states have a cut-off of 750 watts and speed limits of 20 mph for class 2 bikes. You'd be a big liability around town. Be a good Dad and do the right thing for your son. If all you were going to do is to use it on the trails then you don't need headlight nor turn signals.
I actually found a sidecar for the super 73 on ali express
Great build, still not sure how I feel about the loudness of the CYC.
It's sounds great
im Interested that convertion kit
Nice bike!
Thanks!
The frame linkage prevents the controller to be mounted near the motor, correct?
yes
I wonder if that can be put on the Aventon Sinch???
Looks good
yes indeed. I find performance to be above average and super smooth.
Is white back light allowed in states? Here in Europe we must use red light.
This light can be white, red and blue. You can play with the settings and adjust to comply with local regulations.
How is it holding up on a carbon fiber frame? Planning on putting my photon on a ican sn04 carbon fiber fat bike frame. Not sure if it would fit but it does have a 120 bsa
It holds amazingly well. Trying to get a crew set up for this weekend and make the video for you. It has been raining so bad last several days in NYC.
@@ElectricVehicleSpace nice thanks
How has the carbon frame held up?
so far it is good.
I too have a Niner and have to relocate the controller, and find a spot for the battery. Any updates, or an updated photo?
Check the latest video
Why don’t you get a rear rack for the battery
I dont know... It will add more weight I guess and look silly. Maybe if I find a good one.
@@ElectricVehicleSpace I think mounting it in the flat orientation on the downtube just above the motor would be ideal if you can do it without the battery getting hit when the suspension is compressed.
The only problem with these is that they are too noisy. But what I find good about the CYC is that they can use a variety of battery voltages with the right controller. I give my hopes to the CYC Photon version, it can peak to 2000w and it is like bafang's type of motor, smaller but more powerful.
Where can I find more info about the photon? I looked it up on UA-cam and nothing came up
I posted few videos but I am waiting for the last frame to arrive and install it.
any updates on the cyc photon build?
Yes waiting for the frame it's in shipping
Kind of stops going when I peddle does anyone no about settings please
What's the weight maximum that it can hold to be able to go
I'm 220 lbs and the backpack another 15 to 20 lbs and it's more power than I need.
Test uphill climb
Yes will do. Thank you for suggestions. I hope we get more people involved.
how much for that build?
All info in the video
I’d this a stock gen3 stealth? 52v 10ah?
Rewatched and I believe it is. That’s very good performance out of the box!
How to buy that one?
watch the video and check the link in the description
I want like see this bike riding in mountains or trails
Yes this is next coming
CYC is doing very clever marketing by sending these motors to UA-camrs. The reality is that they’ve been doing “pre-orders” (for a couple months now) for a new product that has no definite ship date as of December 2022. Seemingly every review for people who’ve received a free test motor is glowing. And none of these “reviews” are tested in any long term or real world capacity. Taking customers money for months without shipping out a single motor seems shady at best. The CYC gen 1 motors had a number of issues.
I have gen 2 and many customers ride them and all seems to be fine so far. I have the x1 gen 3 amazing kit works better than I expected
Im wondering the range.
full video coming soon.
very awkward battery…that wasnt thought out.
Did you say butthole holder right near beginning? Lol
Nice but noisy ;) No more broken planetary gears ! :D
The gopro 10 increases the noise. It's not that loud. It does not bother me at all.
How is that thing stealth? Sheesh
72 volt battery would go faster...
Yes and it will work but it will kill the motor in long run. It will not last a year.
@@ElectricVehicleSpace my bad... you have the stealth version.
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