The Best Cheap Porsche To Buy? Boxster 987 - What To Expect After 16 Years & 120,000 Miles
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- Опубліковано 3 чер 2024
- What to expect when buying a CHEAP Porsche Boxster S 987. Looking at some of the issues, problems, faults and good things about a 16 year old Boxster 987 S, with over 120,000 miles. Is it the best cheap Porsche or the worst cheap Porsche? Feel free to call the fashion police on me 😂
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Hi Satch, after entering your competition to win your old 986 Boxster, and not winning, I thought why not just buy one? So I did! Bought a Speed Yellow 987 manual in July. You inspired me. Thanks for the videos. Keep up the good work.
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I've got 70k on my 2007 987 S and I absolutely love it! Handles amazing well and has more than enough power to have fun with. Get's a lot more stares than I'd imagine for a 15 year old car!
From Naples, FL. I am the original owner of my 2014S with PDK and special Amareth Red color. I ordered it July of 2013 and it arrived October of 2013 as a 2014 model. After 4 previous BMWs this was my first Porsche. In 88K miles of driving it has had no mechanical problems, NONE! I do all maintenance except changing the plugs, to difficult to reach. The car runs flawlessly with plenty of power and always gets over 30mph on the highway. I plan to show the car in the `Naples Cars on Fifth’ car show next year. Stop by and say hello.
Being a Mid-engine car makes it a better handling Porsche than a 911 of the same year and so much cheaper to - Thanks for the upload Satch.
USA view, Houston Texas.
Owned a 2008 S for 6 years , post IMS bearing issue. Had the tiptronic , was the best in class before the PDK and average users would not notice.
Sold in 2019 for $28000 with 25 K Miles. My worst decision ever. Here we have highways, miles between turns and stress on the brakes and the car.
Most reliable car I ever owned ! best build quality and engineering. (I'm 62 yrs old and have had many cars)
Loved it ! Wanted a 911 but never regretted my 987 purchase, 90% of the speed for 50% of the price - buy one ! Best sports car ever (yes including the S2000) !
These are probably the most underappreciated cars in the Porsche lineup. I have a '06 base Boxster, and am constantly surprised at how good it is. I track it at Driver's Education a couple of weekends a year with the Porsche Club and am astounded at the track performance. And in the wet the guys in the GT3's get scared and park, the base Boxster is a blast.
That's so awesome to hear! I've seen a few Boxters at the track with roll cages and all. They're beasts! Quick question, do you have a roll cage on yours? I would love to buy one myself and track it but I probably would not be able to afford a roll cage for a while.
@@miniaddict4534 My local PCA region allows the Boxster for DE events without a roll cage. You are supposed to sit lower than a 2x4 or broomstick bridging the front window frame and the roll hoop. For racing a roll cage is likely required, and would presumably strengthen the car
I've had my 2000 2.7L manual for 23 years and it's still such a blast to drive and looks amazing still.
Reply to John Rayner comment a real eye opener!!
A big thanks Satch for tipping me over the "buy an old Boxster" precipice. I went for a 2007 987 2.7 58,000m. The ulez compliance was a big factor for going entry level.
As you promised, it puts a smile on my face every time I drive it. All initial thoughts of garaging it over winter are out the window. I am driving it every day, and when I'm not driving it, I am thinking about driving it!
Bloody hell satch
Did you get dressed in the dark ?🤣
Thanks Satch, just got my wife an 04 Boxster, and i have a cayman. Been a fan of yours, your videos are very insightful. Keep it up champ!
I am in the UK and decided on a 2007 987 2.7 5 speed for the following reasons -
1. My second car and first porsche so didnt want to tie up too much cash.
2. 2.7 engine is over £300 per annum cheaper in road tax.
3. 2.7 is not too fast and needs to be revved before it comes alive and its fast enough on UK roads. Boxster feels very planted and safe.
4. From 2006 Porsche used the M97 engine with bigger non serviceable IMS bearing - I saw a guy on youtube in USA who races them and said that the M97 engine is near bullet proof.
5. In my opinion the 987 has the timeless Porsche look both outside and inside if you want a modern classic.
6. I wanted 5 speed because I read that this feels more old school 911 and just seems classic old school. 13:04
7. Its so good with the top down as it was designed to be a roadster and in my opinion does evoke the spirit of the 550 spyder. I also love the cayman by the way.
I bought my car from a dealer - 107k miles £10k with a warranty - had to fix a few bits exhaust started blowing after I had done 400 miles sounded terrible but was just corroded gaskets / connectors and was a cheap repair. Its still on original clutch. I have mainly driven BMW 320s and Golf TDIs. The Boxster is of course in another league to the.above and is wonderful to drive.
Get one whilst they ard giving them away !!
156k mile 987 Boxster - not even serviced properly for 12 years ownership - bloody brilliant!
As always Satch, thanks for another great video! 👍🏻
Hi satch
great video. I have a 2005 987S in white with sea blue interior. Had it for 6 years. Has 113,000 miles and is a driving experience. I added a Borla exhaust and is sounds incredible and runs awesome. Keep up the great videos. By the way, I also have a 2006 carrera S cabriolet that is a different kind of fun
aloha
steve
Great video as always Satch.
Just bought my first Porsche 987, really helpful video. Thanks
I have an 08 base 987 5-speed boxster. Bought it six years ago with 30k miles on it, now it has 60k miles; not quite my daily driver, but not just a period weekend car either (based on the insane appreciation of all things Porsche, I think it may be worth more now that what I paid for it!). I stay on top of the required maintenance, and have had no troubles at all with it. It goes through back tires every 15k miles, but the soft rubber it part of why you buy one of these! Puts a smile on my face every time I drive it! I’ve had German, Japanese and US convertibles for the past 40+ years; this is, without a doubt, the best driving, most enjoyable of all of them.
Looking for a 997 now, thanks for the video
I just bought an 06 w/ 95,000 miles on it. I put some 19" Carrera II S wheels on it and just started upgrading the audio. Such a fun car to drive.
The Tiptronic gearbox (Mercedes 5G-Tronic) is actually quite smart. It is a learning gearbox, which means it adapts to your style of driving. Out of the 250 maps it has, it would always start is the most comfortable setting, which explains the lazy and slow shifts. Later when it recognises spirited driving, the gearbox would shift to its sportier maps. To engage its fastest setting, you would have to stomp to kickdown on the pedal twice. It would've been nicer if Porsche adjusted the mapping of the gearbox, so that it does not shift like an S-Class when you start the car up.
I’m just about to hit 130k on mine! I’ve had it three years and done 10,000 miles. I’ve replaced the suspension, water cross over pipes and Main seal. All the breaks and tyre were replaced needing new rears now! And I’ve serviced it 3 times + starter motor and drivers window mechanism. , all work done at Porsche bringing my running costs to 6k over three years. I brought the car 4 £5500 in 2019 got a good deal engine is still sweet drives spot on and I absolutely love it! Can also defo recommend falken fk 510s for tyres great in the dry amazing in the wet ( if your caught out ) good luck 🤞
My 2004 2.7L now has 150,400 miles. Bought it as a CPO from Penske Porsche in Ohio, USA. Good video! It has 25K on the clock when I bought it. My 3rd and most reliable Porsche. I subscribed.
Great video very helpful thank you for uploading!
I just grabbed one, but it's a 6 speed. Thanks for the preview of what I can expect when it arrives🙂.
You can use “black wax” to cover the stone chips or least colorize it if you can’t afford a re-paint, Satch! Take care and keep up the great reviews. I enjoy watching your videos on the TPN from across the pond! By the way, I’ve got a 986.2 2003 Speed Yellow Boxster!
Great video satch currently looking at 987s to replace my aging 986 although looking at 2.7 as I think for my needs will make a better daily than the s so really useful video
Great video, great car! I've had mine for over two years now and it's a 2006 987.2 Boxster 2.7. From time to time people commenting 'girls car' and 'poor man's Porsche', but none of that is true. It's a great car with great value for money. Keep up the good work!
WIll be buying a porsche 987 hopefully this year!
I have a 2008 RS60 3.4 with 82k miles. Had it for 8 years and only major problems/repairs have been new clutch at 60k, discs/pads, rads, and a few pipes.
Just great cars and if you use an independent Porsche specialist then costs are very reasonable indeed. I have other newer, and more flash cars, but just cannot bring myself to sell this superb piece of kit. Holds its own with cars at many times the price you’ll pay.
This one seems like a very well kept model , here in the US all the affordable ones have really bad marks when it comes to maintenance records
I’ve got a 987.2 2.9; absolutely love it.
Same here-987.2 (2009), base 2.9 L owned since new. 140,000kms. Clutch cables @ 92,000 kms. Of course, brakes @ 120,000kms, plugs every 60K; still on original coil paks. Annual oil changes, -follow Porsche maintenance recommendations. On 3rd battery. I'd say that's very reliable. Love the car
Loved my '05 987. Got rid of it with 130K. At the time I didn't want to replace the struts, so I left it. Now I've got a 2015 and love it too...more modern...but kinda miss this one
Great video
Great video and loved the thats what she said line, outrageous 😂
Thanks man 🙌🙌
You too inspired me to get mine, a very similar black 987.1
:)
I have a 2005 987 manual on 120000 miles. Regular services, always used Porsche parts for any work done and the engine is superb! For anyone looking to buy one, the only poor detail I can come up with is the ridiculous positioning of a control unit box under the passenger seat. Even with constant cleaning of the sink holes this area is prone to get wet on occasions which will eventually Corrode the box leading to a £800pound charge by Porsche to replace it....absolutely stupid place to put this box! Other than that this car is superb, handling, MPG, everything is exceptional!
Yes. I once had the drain holes plugged up with debri were the top stores into and the computer had to replace as the water didn’t drain out and eventually leaked into the area beneath the drivers seat. Cost me $1,400 to fix it. I now make sure the water drains away properly. Be aware!
Reply to John Rayner comment a real eye opener!!
I race Boxsters and my god are they amazing cars to drive and race, surprisingly reliable when being pushed to their limits even with most of the cars having 100,000+ kms which is just incredible and the engine note is amazing especially when straight piped like the boxsters in my racing series aka the pirelli Porsche cup in NZ 👍
Been cruising around in my 2006 boxster s since 2019, and loving it top down in paradise, Hawaii! Aloha, Aotearoa !!
Better get mine out of the garage this year, in the last 4 years it's done about 3000 miles, its a 2005 2.7 manual gearbox model, mileage is 32000
Thanks so much Satch for another brilliant video. I don't think there is any modern car on the market than can give driving experience that these cars give. I'm going to keep my Cayman forever. Or indeed till the Irish government tell me I can't drive it anymore.
Well done. Thank you
Thanks Satch
After watching your vids and looking at my bank account I really really can’t afford one…….
So, I collect mine today a 2008 2.7 sport pack! Life’s to short not to, and there’s a Porsche for every budget!
Was there much play in the gearbox? How's the suspension? I'm interested to see what you think are the pros and cons of the 987 vs 981 in terms of driving experience, excitement and fun.
165,00 in mine 987s manual , 2006 , motorway all over Europe, then IMs started to make a noise, my engine was fab , apart from this, but it had to come out ( none of the fixes available for my model) Complete engine rebuild… in Portugal , where the prob occurred .. expensive .. There’s a guy who’s got 240,000 on his at the same servie place I used .. what a car though , I’ve had it 11 yrs .. Still brilliant
nice video..im looking to buy a boxter 987 s..i hope i will find one in a good condition!!!
I love my 987.....
Great video. I have a 16-yr old Boxster 987S in black that I’ve had for almost 8 years. Brilliant car, even now with well over 140k miles. Only reason to replace it is that my 5 and 3 year olds want to go in daddy’s car and I can’t take them both at the same time. Perhaps a 911 beckons?
I would not use the word cheap. Less expensive perhaps, but not cheap. Thanks for the video.
I thank you much for this wonderful and insightful video. I am concerned with my recent order of a Boxster T, new. It has a turbo. Will it last like one of these NA engines? I also see that these need PP film or something
Got mine about 8 months ago, 3.2S manual in black, definitely a heart ruling head situation.
Bought at a local dealer 80k miles, full service history, £10.5k.
It's one of those cars where the previous owner has spent a fortune on the oily bit's (stopped counting at £12k bills) but spent NO time on the body etc, took weeks to get it to a nice standard.
Every time I look at it I think i've made a mistake, after five minutes driving it i cannot stop grinning.
My main thoughts on the driving experience is if you have come from any type of modern turbo car it will feel sluggish, ring its neck and you suddenly realise this is a quick car.
Brilliant
Love my 2005 987.1 2.7. Things I had to fix were: replace front coolant cross over pipes, as the connections corrode. Exhaust down-pipe to rear silencer gaskets. Air oil separator. Front suspension, struts had corroded at the top, ended up replacing the whole lot, springs, top mounts, bump stops etc. Coil packs were cracked, Porsche released a newer version so replaced all 6. Radio and heater buttons go manky, replaced with new/oem. Wheels powder coated, callipers powder coated red with Porsche logos. New discs and pads all round, & new fluid. Front dust covers (behind discs). New clutch, RMS and IMS gasket (has larger IMS bearing, phew). The car makes me smile every day, love it, and love working on it.
I also have a 2005 987 s.
Is it the 2005 model that has the larger ims bearing ?
Im assuming thats better from the phew comment lol
@@allancummings8023 2005 was the cross over year so some do and some dont. Only way to find out is take the gearbox off. Can be more sure from 2006 onwards. I found out when replacing the clutch.
Ok, thanks for letting me know. 😁
Reply to John Rayner comment a real eye opener
HAHAHA I got caught so off guard with that "That's what she said" LOOOL
I too was inspired to “GO FOR IT!” and purchased a 2013 Boxster S with manual back in September 2021. I found mine at a Porsche dealership and they CPO’ed with less than 49000 miles on the odometer.
The only concern I have is how noisy the motors/mechanicals are for putting up/down the top. Just how much noise should these tops produce?
Nevertheless I am very happy with the car and it gives ya much different and more enjoyable experience than my Cayenne and my wife’s Macan.
Keep up the great content; and thanks. 👍
The top shouldn't really make any noise other than the motors running. If you're hearing knocks or any banging kind of noises, your transmission gears are probably broken. It's about $50 a side for replacement parts and a few hours work removing/replacing the gears. My Boxster had one side that was making a terrible noise and the gear was broken into about 4 pieces. Replaced and everything is good now!
I have a 2014 Boxster S with 85K miles, original owner. No noise with raising or lowering top. Naples, FL. There have been no mechanical problems with this car. Amazing power and great gas mileage, always over 30mpg on the highway. Truly a remarkable car.
I have a 2007 Boxster S. Had slightly higher ks when I got it four years ago. I’ve had a few issues due to age but overall it is a great car that handles like a go cart. I intend keeping it.
I've had my 987 3.4s Boxster 6 years now. Had 50k on the clock and now 81k. Had coil overs fitted and a stage one remap taking it to 315bhp ( 3 years ago). Over the last 4 months had to have a new clutch, then the gear selector cable broke and then a set of coil packs a month ago (best part of £1600) for all 3 issues. Drove like a different car after ( light clutch, precise gear changes).
These issus are most probably age/milage related. Do I regret spending the money?
No, the cars worth every penny spent.
That's what she said....well done.
I had the sam bad issues when I bought mine with 170.000 km. Seem to be standard. 😂
+ Front shock absorber rusted
Agree 100%
Most of the rattling I hear from my car would come from the plastic wind deflector. It's really flimsy and not very well secured. I don't bother keeping it on my car because the rattle outweighs the benefit of deflecting some wind haha
This is the only rattle on my car!
I had the same problem, if you put a little strip of sticky foam tape along the outside edge of the deflector, it totally kills the rattling noise! It was driving me crazy and now my car is totally quiet.
What is under the steering wheel center at the top? That flap of plastic looks like it can be pulled down. 11:20
Flush brakes, pressurize and change brake caliper pads.
Hello, I have the same 2005 Boxster S ,manual transmission , 45,000 miles, good condition in Hong Hong. The re selling value will be around 15K - 20K. Since I’ll be moving to UK soon, I’m thinking whether I should ship it to UK or should I better and easier to find a similar one in UK. Shipping will cost about 30 K pounds. Your advice is appreciated.
« That’s what she said » jokes 😂
Should I buy a 2006 boxstet 180k miles one owner and babied.well taken care of?
That roof needs new elastic to pull it in when it closes.
2000 Boxster with 106k Emblem Greens .
I’m in Canada and just test drove one 987.1 2006 Boxster S with 120,000 kms. $29,000 cdn. No where near what UK is selling for.
Clicked expecting to see a rare 987 with red leather.
what tiptronic error code was it? mine 987 tip in in limp mode :(
As usual, lots of interesting points in there. Didn’t realise I could fit a sports exhaust to my ‘06 gen 1 Cayman. I thought it brought up an error message. Without going to Belgium for a refurbished one, any advice from someone in the know would be great please.
I am thinking about fitting a Spyder Performance exhaust to my 987. Not too expense and still looks OEM.
@@batlamb5386 thanks Mate…I’ll look it up👍
Reply to John Rayner comment a real eye opener
Yellow instrument clusters? Never seen it on this model. They are typically white. This a modification?
I guess your buddy didn't take good care of his 987. Mine has no chips, starter issues or seatbelt issues....
How about AOS - air oil separator?
what is the average miles driven per year on Boxsters?
Black wax covers it. Save the respray.,
I bought a 2009 Boxster 987 gen2 last August, with PDK.
It only had 45,000 miles then and 51,000 now.
It passed MOT in November with no advisories...... I put four new Pirelli PZero tyres on the car for the MOT.
I use the car as my daily driver and am so disappointed with the harsh ride, any drain covers, bumps and lumps, and dips in road surfaces and it just does not ride smoothly at all.
I'm now considering selling it for something that rides more smoothly as it gets tiring having that kind of poor ride quality. Had the shocks/springs checked at MOT with no problems.
Why on earth do Porsche make a car that has such an uncomfortable ride quality?
I agree, although when I put new tiers on it, it improved the ride some what, so I am surprised that your new tires didn't improve your ride. Some one told me on the newer Porches they have electronic shocks that are supposed to make it ride better, but they are probably not retro-fitable, and probably expensive, yes these are not daily drivers, but great weak-end and or track cars.
Strangely the decision regarding keeping it or not was made for me. Put the car into Cotswold Porsche for a service, the mechanic finished the service, took the car out for the post service test drive, was involved in a very serious accident, so serious car is a CatA total loss and will be crushed !! Their insurance duly paid out (after a fight) and I now have a Mercedes AMG SLC cabriolet all the bells and whistles, only 5 mph slower the the Porsche but with sports plus, lowered suspension it goes like stink.... and rides properly with a better degree of comfort !! Job done !!
@@richardthomson203 Well that is quite the story, thanks' for sharing, glad it worked out for you, but I am sad that we have lost a PDK.
A smoke machine to find leaks??
That stuff is horrible, no way!
Imagine the real owner commenting on this video.
How many miles can you expect to get from these cars without a engine rebuild?
My 987S had compression of 160lbs dead in all 6 cylinders, 130,000 miles.
I'm so impressed with porches maintenance schedule and cost that I instead got an MX5.😁✌️
That looks like a few months worth of stone chips on a brand new MX5. Awful thin paint. I've viewed lots of ones that have done only a few 1000 miles looking like that.
720p?!
Thats what she said. Lmao
A bit negative
Another ill-informed youtube reviewer.
I'm not sure, have you seen the shit Scotty Kilmer puts up?
Actually helped me diagnose the starter motor issue.
Porsche models that are prone to IMS failure and would benefit from an IMS upgrade.
- All 986 Boxster models.
- 987 Cayman & Boxster models up to engine number 61504715
- All 996 models (not including: GT and Turbo models)
- 997 3.6ltr with M96/05 up to engine number 6950745