This MUST HAVE Part will ACTUALLY SAVE your 6.7 POWERSTROKE - REAL TESTED RESULTS!!!
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- Опубліковано 21 чер 2020
- THIS THERMOSTAT:
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Have you ever seen hot transmission temps while hauling? Is your engine oil running hot? Do you drive your truck like Dale Earnhardt in the '98 Daytona 500? Do you haul or tow with your Powerstroke?
If you answered yes to any of the above questions or if you just love America then you actually need this part.
Keep in mind that 2017+ trucks use the primary coolant system to cool the transmission. By keeping the primary coolant lower will result in keeping your transmission temps lower. Obviously along with engine oil also.
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Thanks for the video, and heads up on this product! Works amazing and dropped my temps 12 to 15 degrees!
Glad I found this video. I'll be pulling my 36 ft camper from Alaska back to where ever they decide to station me next. Buying thermostat now
I have this in my 6.7, absolutely worth it
I watched the whole video. Nice job. I like it.
Great test and content 👍🏼
great test, and a great upgrade. It's a no brainer
Awesome content!
I put a mishimoto in mine, before I heard about the SPE thermostat. It's still better then the stock, as far as cooling.
I installed the thermostat with bigger pans (oil and transmission) and my temps are great 👍. I am in AZ and tow. Great job SPE!
How has your fuel economy been. I ask cuz I bought one, haven’t installed it yet, but learned after that some have reported a decrease in fuel efficiency. Plausible, considering that the truck is trying to reach its target temp, and if it can’t, it continues to dump more fuel to achieve such. Your feedback is much appreciated.
Good video and info. Thanks
Perfect for non winter areas. I like my 195 thermostat in the winter... People should also have a look at how dirty/plugged their rads are. I just did mine this weekend... Plugged with leaves and pollen, dirt etc... After cleaning it, this made a 10deg difference on its own....
Hi Doug. This will NOT have ill-effects in colder climates. The truck still takes the same amount of time to go from 0-175* . With the SPE thermostat it will just open at 175* rather than waiting until 194* as it does with the OEM thermostat.
Wow, that is something lots of folks don't think about! Thanks a "ton!" 😃😄👍🙏
A couple things to keep in mind with this:
#1: depending what you're running for a tune, you will get a CEL with this thermostat, because it won't see it's minimum operating temp ( I had this on my one customers 16 super duty)
#2: this will only help trans temps on 17+ trucks, as the 11-16 run the transmission cooler on the secondary system.
Another thing, there is a thermostat on the transmission you can actually remove to lower your trans temps without adding additional coolers.
One other thing is a question, what area of western pa are you if you don't mind me asking? I'm from a little east of Pittsburgh.
The trans thermostat you speak of....is that 6-speed and 10-speed or just a 6sp thing?
@@mikz86ta1he checked out
Dan's Thermostat works great have 1 in my 2012 F350
I noticed my 2016 f350 hualing an empty trailer or loaded my oil temps get to the high 230 sometimes 240 which im told is normal. And trans temp stays around 199 to 203. Vs my 2021 oil temp stays low but trans temp gets to the 225 range as well. Nice vid. Will try that spe stat sooner or later.
Need this asap!
I have pulled now over 100K miles on my 2013 F450 platinum. Have a 20K 5th wheel pulling all over the US including mountains. Never once had a hot temp on xmsn oil or engine. As a matter of fact the oil temp and xmsn temp are almost identical while towing NEVER going much over 200* even in the summer time.
I’m no expert so I could be wrong Terry but I believe from the 2017+ they started doing the fluid temp control on the primary system which makes it run hotter as to where previously before 2017 they ran it on the secondary system.
Yep, not relevant.
That exhaust sounds wonderful! I own a 2018 f350. Deleted I assume, What exhaust you put on it and we're the windows down when you filmed?
Have you gotten any check engine lights on this for the temperature not getting up fast enough? I put a lower temp thermostat in my BMW and it gives me a check engine light a couple times a year that the engine is taking too long to come up to operating temperature.
I just wanted to let you know I ordered this part the ccv delete and the fuel prevention kit. Just from watching your videos....
Have you thought about upgrading the trans coolers to a larger one?
What phone mount are you using and which mounts have you used I really need one but I like the phone closer to top of the dash but there’s not much area to put a good mount on these trucks
Can we have a full video of you full sending the truck. Mud, burn outs and drifts, can you make that happen?
Hi great tip thanks I'll see about adding this to my Truck... What App is that you Have on Your Phone getting that Info.
Will I be getting any check engine lights on after installing this, tuned / emissions off ‘17
Probally not a good idea if you have stock emissions. The emissions regen does not start until you reach normal operating temps. The 20 degree drop will delay the start of a regen. For sort trips, this could lead to problems. You will also have delays in cabin heat during the winter. Mama might not like that.
The truck still takes the same amount of time to go from 0-175* . With the SPE thermostat it will just open at 175* rather than waiting until 194* as it does with the OEM thermostat.
Not with weight reduction.
Check your oil cooler and the thermostats on the secondary radiator.
Corey that was a great video!
I live in the foothills of WV so when we take our 5th wheel out we have to drive through the mountains. I am switching all fluids to Amsoil and will be buying this thermostat.
What phone holder is that you have? I like the way it holds your iPhone.
That holder comes with the PPEI tuner
EZ LYNK (PPEI) tuner
In a cold climate (Vermont), would that mean (early dump of hot coolant/oil) that there would not be as much heat available to heat the cabin of the truck?
How does tstat normal driving in cooler weather does the heater still work great when it's cold
Does anyone know how many gallons of antifreeze I'd have to drain to get to the thermostat so I don't flood my garage floor, please? I'm not at an antifreeze drain interval so I don't want to waste anymore than necessary. Thanks.
do a video of you changing out the transmission fluid!!!
It’s super simple. Check out fordtechmakeuloco
Hey bro I need to do turbo injectors bigger pump u think ur shop can do it
What are you using to monitor the temps? I need that set up in my truck!
With the lower temperatures did your mpg go down??
I just got my 2021 powerstroke deleted a couple weeks ago, and my oil temp gauge is a little higher than usual as well as trans temp slightly, all i have is a 30 hp tune, any recommendations
Hey what if you don’t drive like a 16 year old or heavy haul? Is it still a benefit?
I guess what I’m curious about is where exactly is it written that 225+ degrees will damage the transmission? Ford engineering designed this truck purposely for towing and I couldn’t imagine them putting the wrong thermostat into tens of thousands of trucks. I know SPE wants to sell these units but I’d like to know the facts about the original engineering before I consider contemplating a change.
You could use simple logic. The cooler a transmission runs the longer it will last. I put a large trans cooler on my 2000 7.3 Super Duty and had 305K on the truck when I sold it with having never pulled the transmission. Also ran Amsoil Synthetics. Also never pulled the valve covers. I recently did the same thing with my 2017 F350 6.7, since it served me well before. Do a search for "transmission heat chart" and you'll see the point. Great question! I also had a by-pass oil filter system and extra deep Mag Hytec transmission pan.
@@1134Bigguy extra deep pan for more fluid to keep it cool? Just curious.
If im not mistaken transmission fluid will rapidly break down over 220 degrees
@@upurnose46 The cautionary range (yellow on the dash gauge) is 230-250f. You can run those temps all day without harm to the tranny. The "red zone" is above 250. There’s a lot of info on this fluid if you search it out. I pull a 14000 lb fifth wheel travel trailer and I’ve never seen my trans temp get above 220 and the tranny and cooling system is completely stock. I cannot believe Ford or GM... amongst several other brands would recommend a fluid that breaks down in the cautionary zone and give you such a small tolerance between good temps and bad.
@@secretsquirrel8010 The "red zone" is when mechanical failure will begin. The fluid will be severely degraded by then. A quick google search will tell you that dexron vi should not go above 220*f
Hey man, did you lift your truck? I like the look, its not too much and seems like a nice daily. Wheels can be a bit intimidating since I'm a sucker for off-roading.
Does anyone know if you can run a separate monitor like a cts with the ez lynk tunes?? Or if you have to use the phone
Yes, you can run any monitoring tool u want but its one or the other, maybe a obd2 splitter will let you use both but not sure.
I have a 2020 6.7 will this thermostat work on it
what is the hardware and app you are using to monitor your truck?
I wonder why not just add the transmission back to the secondary cooling system like the earlier models
Ran a product like this in my 6.4. Threw all kinds of codes made it run rich trying to get it up to operation temperature and clogged my EBP sensor twice. These trucks are designed to run high temps. My worry is that causing them to run cooler makes the truck wanna run harder to make it up to factory running temps. I now have a 6.7 and kinda nervous to try aftermarket thermostats.
I have one as well. Wondering if you've ever made that move, and was it worth it? I'm still new to these machines, so ANY wise info will help! Thank you, and any others who reply. 🤷♀️👩🔧👍🙏
That’s not how it works….they retard timing and injection for less power when cold engine temps. Ever since the early 2000’s diesel’s. It will not run hardtop get it hotter quicker. That’s false. Less power, yes.
@sav300 Unless you're like me and have full access to all maps and tune them myself. Either way I wouldn't run this thermostat. The 6.7 is meant to run in the 190 200 range.
transmission have separate cooling system.
1 run outside 76°
2 run outside 66°
I was wondering who would notice that. The thermostat he changed has nothing to do with cooling the transmission. The lower ambient temp on the 2nd run had event to do with it. Also the red zone on the ezlynk monitor is a preset suggestion, no matter the vehicle. It has nothing to do with ford or the engine. My 19 450 6.7 regularly hits 230-240 degree oil temp in the summer when towing heavy.
I have 14 6.7you think that might work for me also let me know the name of the thermostat so I can order it
What is the offset on your wheels
Lol people on the pipeline hate seeing me beat on my f250 platinum….but hey it’s a truck!
Did you have to change your tune when you put this thermostat in ?
Would this thermostat void warranty?
Need some upgrades and weight reduction for my 2019. Willing to drive to the burgh too
What are you using to have this in fo on your phone? Sorry for the dumb question
They should make a heavy duty one for heavy pulls
How did you get that to connect to your phone
What did it do to your mpg
Where did u find those gauges
I'm a shade tree mechanic, without training or knowledge. You did a beautiful job...and then I tried it. Instant fail. Open the drain valve, nothing..opened all the reservoirs...nothing. So, remove the pipe and cause a eco-disaster...done. Remove hose...nope. The clip would not release, take off the the hose and housing for the thermostat...more eco-disasters. Lift out the old thermostat...nope. Needed dang near a pry bar... Remove housing from hose so that reassembly would be easier...nope, dropped a housing screw into the engine... had to use a hammer to remove the housing from the hose, more good news. Ah, reassembly...should be easy right...nope. The new thermostat wouldn't seat properly...inspection...closer inspection...look at old part...look at new part...find old gasket still attached to the block...great. After that, reassembly when just a smooth as the road you were testing your truck on. Boy, I tell you what...if it is ever "easy" I will find a way to hammer a square peg into a round hole. Now...need to check to see if there are any leaks. :)
@sfoda511 You sir are hilarious, that right there is the honest truth of how it normally goes 😂😂 I got lucky, good luck on your next upgrade. Have you ever thought about starting a channel. It could just be about funny mechanic stories 😂😂 soo many can relate to that
@@TopCorey I'd love nothing better, it would be all comedy and just the life and times of "Bad Luck Schleprock" ...sure I spelled that wrong. Love what you do, thank you for all the help!
@@sfoda511
Looks awrite ta me! 😄😉🤣
I had to change my thermostat for opposite problems. The truck never got above 155 degrees no matter what I was doing and it requires 158 degrees minimum to do a regen. So, it went months with no regen and was 100% clogged. It's getting deleted this spring anyway though. lol
How is it doing, now?
@@elaineewalt8137 It fixed everything.
Hey man, I need to do that weight reduction on my truck. What is the “coolant purge” process you mentioned? Is there a certain way to re-fill the coolant after the job is done?
Vacuum the air out
How can hook my phone up to my truck like with my cell phone G5
I'm trying to drain some of the coolant from the drivers side radiator valve. I can not get this thing to open! I feel like I'm going to break the valve. Is anyone else having this issue?
There is a socket for it I know snapon makes ones
Hey what tunes are you running when towing. And are you running TCM tunes ? I just tuned my 17 and when towing temps spiked to 232. Just curious to see if the tune has anything to do with it.
proven tunes run 232 temps too pulling a grade.
Is this thing on?
Yes the camera you charged up, put on a tripod, set up the angle for, and hot record is on
Are you supposed to disconnect the hot side of the battery vice the ground when working on vehicle?
that's what they say
Need info on weight reduction mod never seems to be available from SPE website
UA-cam it. Some good videos out there
amDIESELPERFORMANCE
Do you still have the typewriter tick on this truck? If not how did you fix it or are you just dealing with it?
i havent heard it in probably over a year.
Corey, isn’t your truck hyper tuned ? If so than wouldn’t that alone really increase your temp ? I guess the question I have is would this really benefit a non-tuned 6.7 ?
What’s the thing in ur phone u got?
Anyone know if doing this will void your engine or powertrain warranty? Im sitting at 36k miles on my 2020, don’t want to void anything “jussincase”. Knowhutimsayin?
Dont waste your money, Stick with OEM! I bought an SPE thermostat and and it failed within 6 months. It would fully open at 130 degrees. I called and got the run around.
What app and obd adapter for the data?????????????????????????????)
Forgive the ignorance, but what are you using to send the data to the 2nd phone? I'd like to have something similar in my 2020 F450.
ezlynk
Do you have a video for phone adapter and app to monitor the system. Very intrigued. I'm a new diesel owner.
hey dave search for one of my EzLynk videos.
@@TopCorey thx my brother will do. Great videos btw
"big ugly, wide wheels like that"
I'm so glad you said it before I did.
I'm not sure I understand the purpose of this mod. I get that it's about reducing reducing temps, but these transmissions are designed to work in the 230+ degree range, and that's straight from Ford techs and engineers. Changing for lower temperature thermostat means that combustion chamber temps are lowered, which will result in increased carbon deposits when running cooler. This will result in less engine life, UNLESS the truck is seeing constant tough duty in extreme hot weather conditions, like Arizona pulling 20k lb. Just because the temps are lower doesn't mean it's saving the engine/trans. This will even affect EGTs meaning DPF will fill more regularly, resulting in more diesel use and more DEF use. I pull 11k through the Colorado mountains often with my '18 F-350, and have never seen had an issue, even with temps in the 230s on the trans.
Didnt 17+ change the coolant setup nd the trans is on the primary which on 16- was on the secondary?
Yup
Investigate that pattern patter. Before it gets out of control..... is that thermostat available for the 11-16 ???
Kinda what I was wondering
Just wondering, what phone holder are you using? I like the position of it.
Tim Allen I’d like to know also !
Looks like a suction ram mount
How do I get started doing the hot shot hauling stuff?
find a guy successfully running hotshot and become friends
How do you get away with wheels like that im guessing trucks not registered in pa thats cop magnet on northern east pa im watching this being my 19 750 is getting hot only 7000 miles always in shop trying to get out of this truck
how well do you suppose this will affect cold weather performance? winter?
@beerdude7 the idea is that it starts cooling your engine sooner than the stock one, but it still allows it to rise to a temp that'll burn off any water, so it won't be making your fan blow while the main coolant is 140° in January
Did you track the OAT (outside air temp) while doing this test? Just wondering - was the OAT warmer on the 1st run? Did you complete "the weight reduction" between runs?
Looks like the OSA was 67 on the second test and 77 on the first test.
Did the stock temperature gauge in the truck rise to "H" when your phone app showed the 226 trans fluid?
226 isn't Hot on the factory trans temp gauge. 250F is when it's hot
No because 225 isn't too hot. That's just the standard setting on ezlynk and it's adjustable. It has nothing to do with a spec for the engine. You can change the redzone on the monitoring, it's just at the regular setpoint when coming from ezlynk, not the ford setting.
Also, he changed the engine thermostat, not the 2nd cooling system thermostat that actually cools the trans. The 10 degree cooler temp when recording the video in the morning had everything to do with the temp drop.
What ecu and tcm tunes were you running in the test
SPE probably that’s his buddy
How do you feel about the possibility of the CP4 pump self destructing and ruining the fuel system? Do you have any protections in place? Recommend any?
Get an exergy mprop. Offered on SPE’s website. Have one on my truck.
He said he runs hot shot secret
I think should of use the rpms in both test not just last test
Most engine wear occurs while the engine is getting up to temp. This is just a trade off on quicker warm up time versus running cooler at extreme load.
Disagree.
@@1134Bigguy Which part? Engine wear is higher when the engine is cold, or a thermostat that opens at a colder temperature will cause your warm up time to increase?
@@1fastnigel
I guess we'll have to wait for his rebuttal! 😄 It's already been a year, and maybe you proved him wrong! 😃👍
Nice shirt
There are numerous reasons why Ford engineers designed the 6.7 Diesel and their transmission to run at those higher temps. Changing that is basically re-designing the system😳.
Jake Heke you don’t think the engineers at Ford didn’t consider that when they designed the oil to run at those temps? They could of simply used a thermostat to run at a lower temp if were an issue. The specific oils used today are perfectly happy to do their jobs more efficiently at higher temps.
@@skoffco Manufacturers run hot engine temps because it helps emission compliance, not for longevity
The ambient air temperature was at least 10 degrees cooler on your second run!?
Isnt how it works lol BIG changes in ambient temperatures yes ex 40 degree day vs 100. but 10 degrees...... no
Drop that throttle pos. sensor and put you EGT's there. That'l
Would this be worth it in a 2011?
Nah
What app was u using to see all ur gauges on iPhone
does anyone know thie answer to this question. Looking for gauges app like that 2016 6.7
Ezlink, it’s not just an app you can run. Gotta have the device.
do you work for spe
What tune level were you in?
I’d also like to know what tune you running while towing
@@serohaguju1054 he is always in 5
He said “tow” like three times.
You are going to grenade a tranny very quick towing in anything but stock or tow.
Water boils at 212 f. Oil doesn’t overheat near that. Modern debutantes are susceptible to ignorance
Ok. Let's see what it does on a 95°day
This engine designed to run hotter to burn of more carbon and help survive during long idling times . If your not running deleted good luck
I got my transmission to 248
Bro that unidentified pitter patter got me!
I just left it out. Oh i own a 6.0 that’s different
What product are you using on your phone to get all those gauges?
The EZ Lynk app with SPE Tunes I'm pretty sure. I have an old phone that stays in my truck with EZ Lynk to keep an eye on mine.
Hey I am trying to contact spe about some parts
Emails are a little slow, but they will get back to you.
@@sethkendall975 I haven't heard from them since Thursday