I did 48h fasting every Friday-Sunday for 30 weeks + 16/8 every other day. It required some kind of stubborness and perseverance 😊 but the effects are stunning. Strict keto was the key to make it possible (15-20g of carbs a day). Now I do 72h of "sardines" fasting every 2 week and it's very easy with amazing anti-inflammatory effect. It's like having a new body and a new brain too. I wish I had this knowledge 20-30 years ago, I could save my parents, both died too early and in pain because of metabolic diseases.
This is a fantastic plan - totally agree with your 48 hr fast and am all about the 72 hr sardines - life changer! Would love to know some specifics about your 15-20 carb meals, please?
@@VisorGirl at first I was using a MOBR method from a book written by two polish doctors: Rodzen Brothers. Basically it's what dr Westman is promoting on his channel, with extra caution about some specific foods, which you might eat too much of and which are addictive and contain carbs (eg cheeses, tomatoes, some nuts, etc). For macro nutrients calculation I used an app (use one which is specific to your food market and contains food available locally) After about a month i bought CGM and to my surprise my glucose levels were perfect so I started fasting, first 16/8, then 24h fast. After about 3 months of keto-adaptation 48h every week. It's important to check how your body reacts to certain foods. Now I'm mostly carnivore but I bake keto bread sometimes or eat some berries in a season. But what I like the most is beef and eggs or fat pork meat (I buy unprocessed). And one particular type of cheese (it's my only addiction 😀).
I dry fasted weekends besides 22 hr keto OMAD during week Lost 55# as an old fat lady, in 6 mos, no exercise needed It was pure determination except the dry fasting (that obliterated hunger) and I lost a third to half of my scalp hair Carni is much better, no fasting altho I rly should as I’ve got such slow results
@@greblus 😋 love cheese... However I'm trying to come to the acceptance that perhaps it doesn't like me, but the last that'll be able to give up will probably be parmesan or Romano because you get the nice cheesy without going too far but might still have to look at that Oh well it's a journey ....good for you 🤗 ...!
My grandparents and great grandparents lived oner 105 yrs, never fasted ate beans everyday dark coffee, dairy, meat, eggs some fruits guava, tamarindo, mango, coconut, cactus avocado and only three veggies chayote, potato and carrots they never knew what a salad was or berries they passed without health problems and good memory and teeth. They said secret for long health was walking outdoor everyday and staying active
Our grandparents did have scientists fuking with the food. I tried to find fruit with seeds i like in the supermarket, and the only things I bought were apples, red grapes, and a seeded watermelon. I'm not familiar with tropical fruits, but I'm going to learn because they all had seeds. The FDA failed every American. Bill Gates is a billionaire who eats tropical fruits.
Dr Westman cannot thank you enough for keeping it simple and translating for us who can think but can easily be overwhelmed if we listen to all the voices. Thank you as always! You brighten my day and take the burden off our shoulders by the teaching you offer that never ceases to gift us in our daily walk with our eating.
56 and have been in ketosis for over 2 years now, eating one meal a day intermittent fast between 18 to 24 hours every day. Lost well over 100 pounds of body weight. Was on prescription medications for over 25 years, and I got tired of all the side effects from meds. I slowly came off my meds within the first 3 months of starting keto.
I have lost 16 lb in 2 weeks but it's my 5 week I m not loosing weight any more what should I do . I did omad . And in 3rd week 3 day water fast I lost 2 kg in 3 days but get it back after 2 days what should I do should I do 2 day 3 day fast or omad ? I m worried about my waight loss
@@mouzzamahmad2171 Don’t sweat it. Hears what I would do. Now, don’t go nuts with this, but, On a Saturday, and in your eating window, go get what you want. For me it was a Cheesesteak and fries. It’ll shock the system. Do NOT do another 3 day fast for a month. Your body is getting used to it. Lay off that for a while. And watch your calories everyday, but eat everyday for a month then try a fast again and see what happens. And make sure you take a good multi-vitamin to make sure you’re getting vitamins you may not be getting through food. Now, I’m no doctor. So do what you want. But drink at least 2 liters of water a day. Water is good for weightloss and 2 liters isn’t hard to get down in a day.
@@mouzzamahmad2171 That’s a little dangerous. The most I have ever lost in a week is 4 to 4.5 and that’s a lot. The reason that’s dangerous is if your body isn’t getting enough protein, it will go after your muscles. Mote to the point, your heart. Don’t concentrate so much on the multiple day fasting, concentrate on your caloric deficit. Eat everyday, but make sure you are at a good caloric deficit.
@@Runner2000 I eat meat around 300 to 400 and some time more and 300 gram or more carb and dates apple 4 walton 1 or 2 day a week honey and milk with chia seeds, ghee 2 3 table spoon per day in a single sitting and by eating this I m now 88 kg before I was 95 . I also take green tea . By eating this I lost this much waight but now I m not loosing I will do 3 day fat and I will try keto diet for a week to break this plateau inshallah
After watching this video with Dr.Ekberg and many other doctors, I am more and more a fan of Dr.Westman! I love the simplicity of what he shares for free! Nothing new here, like many others I have tried listening to many, many other doctors and so called experts or influencers and Dr.Westman is by far the best. I love the graciousness and lack of attitude! Dr.Westman’s approach KISS! Keep It Simple Sir (I’m being kind) I cannot agree more with Dr. Westman. No special food to purchase other than what is in the grocery store. THANK YOU DR.WESTMAN!!
Dr Ekberg is great for figures on food and getting a plan together after helping breaking a cycle of soley counting calories! He really helped from the start educating on carbohydrate and sugar impact.
Ditto! Almost. Breakfast toast 10-11 am. Lunch bag of popcorn 79 calories. Lunch/ dinner high protein 4-5pm. Live yogurt & honey 🍯 before 7pm. Sugar cravings under control. Losing the stubborn belly fat. My BMI doen to 23.0 from 27.02 😅
This is just one of Dr Eckberg’s videos. He never suggests you should just eat the typical American diet the rest of the time. Many of his videos teach a daily low carb diet, specific foods and additives to avoid, as well as foods that you should include in your diet. He also teaches a lot about insulin sensitivity and fatty liver disease. In fact much of his focus is reversing metabolic diseases.
I started to address my prediabetes and weight starting with his videos first, and ended up here and other related videos; so I agree, this particular video was a bit atypical for him. It assumes that fasting is helpful, and it assumes that the low protein helps with autophagy -- the exact things Dr. Westman pointed out.
I think all these doctors make awesome educational videos and it’s only natural they all have their own way of understanding of what they teach. At the end of the day, listen and learn and turn do what works for “your” body. I never had any interest in extended fasts but my only goal right now is fat loss. I’ve transitioned into a protein sparring modified fast three days a week and it broke my long plateau. I will continue to watch these keto/carnivore doctors and apply what works for me.
Thank you Dr Westman I love the way you explain things in these videos You were the beginning of my 3 year journey to better health and lifestyle You bring balance without obsession Pleas keep this up
I have watched a lot of Dr. Ekberg's videos. I think it is important to note that you cannot look at this fasting alternative in isolation. He certainly isn't saying to do this and then go back to a SAD diet the rest of the time. This is merely an alternative to a three day water fast for those who should not or cannot do traditional fasting. He does espouse a long-term lifestyle change in eating real food.
I’m staying with my success ! Dr. Berry and this Dr. W. Have made me successful seeking my goals! If it ain’t broke, leave it alone! My goal for the last 10 years, was 265 pounds! I’m at 235 pounds, now, in trapped in a recliner! I’m sticking with what I know works! Thanks for educating me on eating habits!
Wow that’s great I’m happy for you😇But I wish you stated what was in that one meal? Or at least the usual things you eat? What? Like mostly meat with a little vegs & fats?
@@guitarsong4Jesus I would try the Carnivore Diet and I do two meals a day it's low carb easy and the weight is coming off cause the last meal no carbs so your body will burn fat stores better just some info..It's just so easy to follow btw.
I really respect Dr. Westman because he has years and years of research and actually treating patients with diet. Thank you sir for all you do. I really wish I could convince my friends and coworkers to eat this way, but it’s next to impossible to get through to people here in Tennessee, where they have been raised to eat “biscuits and gravy”.
I follow carnivore, eat fatty red meat, sometimes oily fish, add butter to my coffee instead of milk or cream. I eat once per day, i dont get hungry, feel i could easily go longer between meals, as our hunter ancestors would have and gave evolutionary advantage. Lean, low BMI, good muscle mass and bone mass for my age.
@@Takuma_Sakazaki I make a bulletproof coffee that consists of 1/2 cup heavy whipping cream, with a full stick of butter (cubed up). That constitutes the “liquid” for the coffee. I heat the cream and the butter in the microwave and then pour it into a single serve blender container, and add two scoops of instant coffee. Since I take powdered glycine (dirt cheap amino acid) as a supplement, I add my daily dose in as well, because it is sweet tasting, and I don’t have to worry about sugar or any other artificial sweeteners. It’s around 1200 calories total, with only 3 grams of carbs. That is the only carbs total in my diet. It really helps to add lots of calories in such a small volume of liquid, when you’re trying to do OMAD.
I am on my 3 day of a 7 day fast now. And I am a Carnivore. Water only. If you fast, then fast. Quit pussy footing around with teasing yourself with food. The thing I like about it is everday it feels like your stomach is deflating a bit more. I dont get hungry, my little bit of fat keeps me in check.
I am at the 2.75 day fast stage right now…lost 8 pounds so far… this 3 day fast ends at 5 p.m. today. But I figure…why eat at 5 p.m….just keep going…and I may get to drop 10 pounds by tomorrow a.m. making it just over a 3.5 day fast. Good luck everybody‼ I am carnivore…if I eat veggies…I will crave every carb in sight…and I will be in pain. I cannot eat what this doc Ekberg is advocating. I am sticking with doc Westman. Gladys🇨🇦Toronto🇨🇦Canada🇨🇦
@@gladysobrien1055 I never did it for weight loss, I did it for autophagy. I only lasted 4 days, going from fat burning to starvation. I am pretty lean. Just remember when you break the fast to eat a light meal and wait until the next day to eat again. I break my fast with a can of sockeye salmon sauteed in butter. I am Carnivore also.
So far I am overwhelmed by this doctor's rational approach. At last! I've been confused about so many conflicting diets that I see. I feel relieved to hear that I don't have to starve myself! Thank you Doctor ❤
You can't fast every day. You can for a while but eventually it will cause issues. Keto and fasting is like a hop skip and a jump. Fasting and then doing what ever after is more of 2 steps forward, one step back.
@@makaisenkiI have been Intermittent Fasting every day for over 5 years now and just had my physical a week ago and blood work was perfect. I am Insulin Sensitive with is a good thing because being Insulin Resistant is what causes many diseases.
@@alysezalazinski5599 I said you can't fast every day. I was talking about 24 hour fasts. Intermittent fasts of course you can do that every day. How else would you sleep. You'd die of sleep deprivation. Reading between the lines is important.
Correct! Carnivore or low carb diet IS fed fasting! I like three small meals of animal protein and eggs, with about 30 to 60 grams of non processed carbs total.
Better to cut back to 2 meals within 4 hours of each other. Less insulin spikes. Yes meat does spike insulin a little bit. Leaner meat spikes insulin much more that fatty meat.
I so appreciate the way you explain things, Dr. W. It gives me encouragement to keep it simple and forge ahead. On day 5 of my new carnivore life and loving it so far!
What exactly do you disagree with Dr Sten Ekberg on? What science do you think he's got wrong? Don't just say vaguely that you think he's wrong on something. Show comparative evidence. He shows a lot of science on every video and he's a very good communicator so easy to understand even though English is probably not his first language.
Too many people here are saying Dr. Westman's words are understandable while Dr. Ekberg is too technical. I find it funny that people prefer dumbing down instead of basic good knowledge that still does not violate the philosophy of simplicity.
To listen to dr. Ekberg is like getting a lecture from a Quantum mechanics expert explaining what to do to get your car running better. All you need is a mechanic that advise you to change the oil and get a better fuel and drive more efficiently. He is definitely a doctor that you will depend upon, while dr. Eric is promoting freedom by providing practical and simple information that allows me to live better without having to count, measure and worry about other things then eating properly, i.e., nutrition dense food, like my uncestry used to do. Thanks dr. Eric to persist on your education path. And sorry i couldn't watch the whole video as it's very hard for me to get the other doctor.
Westman seems to have no time for autophagy, and I didn't note him finding metabolic value in fasting. Westman compared the mammalian body to a car, an extremely poor analogy. We are a myriad of interlocking processes that find mutual balance, homeostasis. Perturbation, knocking the system out of balance, is necessary to induce tuning of the various subsystems. Without this type of good stress it is possible--if not likely--to fall into suboptimal or unhealthy stasis. Think Antifragile by Nassim Taleb.
Note that he asked people to sign up for his webinar. Sounds more like a salesman type doctor the ones which you usually find in your hospitals paid by pharma. Dr Eckbergs is far beyond qualified and certainly could teach this gentleman a trick or 2. It is clear that he missrepressented the whole video of Mr Eckert even disqualifying him to then sell us a webinar.
@@Snowsea-gs4wu It's been a long time since I read his books, but I believe in "Obesity Code" he recommends eating keto/low carb for the easiest transition to fasting. I think bc once in ketosis, it's easier on the body for fat adaptation. I think he said it, too, in some you-tube lectures tho I can't write up the footnotes if that's what you're looking for. Sound familiar? Best luck. (I thought autophagy was real from listening to Fung, & am disappointed to hear W say it's theoretical. You?)
@@mariad1151I have damage to my ankles. There were Nobel prizes when autophagy. The thing is it's really hard to measure how many cells are getting eaten and recycled. If you want evidence of autophagy watch Dr Boz. For example she has a video about 2 women who both lost weight. One did it her way with fasting, the other did it with standard treatments. Boz's patient didn't have saggy skin. The standard weight loss lady did. Now she is also going to Dr Boz to lose that lose skin. With the damage in my ankles supposedly in order to heal them I need a strict 3-5 day fast and the autophagy will go into over drive. It's supposed to be trying to fix everything in hopes that you will be able to hunt or gather in order to not die. I would be able to have salt and water and that's about it. At least I won't have to cook for a while.
As one who has followed Elberg for years, I think he would mostly agree with you. I think he's just addressing the different popular options out there and is trying to help explain why they may work or not work.
I tried to follow Ekberg's recommendations for a while. So much calculating! I prefer - some meat, 2 cups of leafy greens, couple of eggs, and some ACV. Much simpler.
I love Dr. Eckman. He was there in the beginning for me. This video of his Dr. Westman reviewed was certainly not anything i would ever be interested in doing but i do like to do a 3 day fast a couple times a year spring and fall. I feel wonderful when i do and look forward to it
They are doctors of chiropractic. Just like medical doctors, there are good ones and there are bad ones. Chiropractors kept my husband able to function with his lower back issues and also kept him from having to have knee surgery after an injury. ❤
This isnt what Ekberg normally presents. This fasting memicing diet is base on Walter Longo's diet. longo is a vegan, hence no meat. Normally Ekberg is pro protein.
Longo isn't a vegan, he eats fish, his diet is lower in animal protein but higher in plant protein keeping IGF-1 at the lower end. He's based it on a traditional mediterranean diet that was mostly plant based with some animal products.
Longo had done research on the effects of fasting on cancer / chemotherapy treatments. He created the fast mimicking diet for those who can’t go without eating. He even commercialized a product - Prolon. Similarly, Atkins didn’t create his diet. But the original was to not eat for 3 days. Then go low carb. Thinking people wouldn’t water fast for 3 days, Atkins used a 20 g daily carb limit for 2 weeks. Personally, think a 3 day (or longer) water fast is better.
I see two problems eating this low protein diet as prescribed by Dr Engberg is you can't just but 25g of leeks ect ect. The waste on this diet would be enormous, unless you ate the same thing day in day out. Secondly if you are like me who is trying to actually put on muscle mass this would greatly hinder this. I personally prefer to eat two meals a day between 2pm and 6pm. I tend to do my cardio in the morning and then do my resistance training around 1 Pm for an hour, so break my fast with protein rich foods (but low carb) then have my main meal of low carb high protein around 6pm then nothing until the next day at 2pm. This works for me. I have lost 85Lb and reversed all my metabolic markers and I'm off virtually all my meds. I am never hungry and have been doing this lifestyle for about 18 months now and feel so much better for it.
Dear Dr Eric, with greatest of respect, your commentary just constantly interrupts Dr Sten's own excellent thesis, yet doesn't usefully clarify our understanding of Ekberg's own excellent commentary. I'll wait to watch the original, thanks.
dr chaffee said being in ketosis puts you in autophagy so its like fasting 24/7 your entire life. the design was meant for recycling to happen 24/7 which is the optimal design.
No. Ketosis does not necessarily put a person in autophagy. That is delusion. Autophagy means that certain catabolism of unwanted tissue in the body happen. Ketosis is autophagic only if there is adequate lowering of calorie intake otherwise it is just plain ketosis and often anabolic which by the way is great for physical fitness.
@@simplehealthyliving4681 you actually dont make sense. your statements contradict each other. your first statement "catabolism of unwanted tissue in the body" is autophagy. i agree with this. it is a normal regular process in the body. the sensible and logical design is your body particularly your mitochondria will repair/remove damaged cells in your body "when it detects them". you contradicted yourself(and logic) when you said autophagy only happens when there is lowering of caloric intake. that doesnt make sense, THE SENSIBLE SIGNAL FOR AUTOPHAGY(FOR THE MITOCHONRIA TO DO ITS WORK) IS WHEN SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE REPLACED AND NOT WHEN THERE IS LOW CALORIC INTAKE. low caloric intake can trigger autophagy but the primary reason for autophagy is when there is a need to replace damaged cells and the design is it happens 24/7. mitochondria is going around in the body always looking for cells that need replacement. it doesnt make sense at all if mitochondria detects a damaged cell that needs to be replaced, and it doesnt replace or repair it right then and there and has to wait for you to lower your caloric intake lmao. so you are in autophagy 24/7 when you are in ketosis and your insulin is low because that has been the design for millions of years for humans(humans on a primarily high fat high animal protein carnivore diet and be in ketosis all the time) . the problem arises when you eat carbs/sugar because it is a scientific fact that autophagy is turned off when your insulin rises. sugar/carbs ruins the design. insulin suppresses autophagy. so if you disagree with me, please come up with a clear, coherent and logical and detailed explanation why. *and also i think it would take millions of years for humans to evolve into animals that thrives on carb/sugar diet but weve only been at it for 12 thousand years.
@@simplehealthyliving4681I don't think it's the lowering of calories. Autophagy is a bit higher level of ketosis, so it is to lower insulin. There it could be difficult to get if eating beef, or dairy because the protein can give a slight elevated bloodsugar. Still you'd be low enough to have ketone between 0.5 - 1.5 but autophagy you want a higher level of ketones. Dr Shawn Baker changed the ratio of fat and beef when he had injuries his neck and wanted to raise ketones. He ate more butter.
@@johannas.l.brushane2518 What you are describing is high grade ketosis. Autophagy, real autophagy that eats cancer cells, that eats inflammatory cells healing nagging skeleto-msucular joint pain is far, far above ketosis. Your body needs to feel it is starving in order to start eating these debris cells leftover in the body for months and probably years. You achieve basic level of real autophagy by actual water fasting with nothing but salts for at least 2.5-3 days. You achieve next level of real autophagy by first breaking the fast and eating mainly ketogenic maintenance calorie diet and then repeating the 2.5-3 day fast after a few days. Respectfully, your thinking is incorrect. The name itself says it all - auto - phagy - body eats (breaks down) the protein of its own bad cells thus getting rid of such debris. Warning - you stop fasting before body starts eating its own healthy cells from vital organs. So fast but don't do crazy long fasts. Fast, break the fast with non-excess maintenance keto diet (maybe go a little into low-carb even), repeat fasting as per your goals (reducing / removing cancer cells, inflammatory cells etc.)
16+ hrs of Fasting is necessary for meaningful autophagy. Eating beef make 16-24 hr fasts easy and natural. Not hungry anymore. Longer fasts of course boost that autophagy even more. Non fasting days be sure to eat until satiated. Don’t want to get frail.
Thank you for your take on autophagy. I found myself wondering where his data is. In 2023, due to circumstances beyond my control, I had to work physically hard over a 48-hour period of time and could not get my food. I ended up in the emergency room, and the attending physican, after listening to me, ordered a barrage of tests. I became unconscious at some point and was admitted into an acute care setting. The primary diagnosis was that of rhabdomylisis. My body had consumed all available resources and started using my heart for fuel. The treatment was aggressive and very frightening. I spent three days in an acute care unit before I could go home. So, for me, missing my meals for two days and working hard nearly killed me. Be careful who you listen to about how and what to eat.
You are not supposed to do physical demanding work. When you fast, you shoukd be in "slow motion and rest more and drink sea salt water. 8 gram per 2 Litters.
You were mostly likely dehydrated, lacking electrolytes. Perhaps you did not have enough resources in your body to begin with. There are too many factors to consider before assuming that 48 hrs of no food almost killed you.
I quit listening to Berg and Ekberg after transitioning to carnivore because I don’t easily get hungry every 20 hours now. I just Eat fatty meat to satiety, add salt to taste and drink clean water to hydrate.
Autophagy does work. When I fast my skin gets clearer. The only issue when you go back to eating , you must go slow and not gorge yourself. I fasted for 14 days before and never lost any muscle that I could tell. Your body becomes very efficient.
@@InTheMiddleOfAForest I had a friend back in the day when I was in the Navy that would fast for 30 days and jog most of those days. A little too crazy for me. I don't do more than 7 to 9 now.
@@mariad1151 Once you get past third or fourth day it's fine. I don't do 14 any more. If you drink black coffee you can do the first two days drinking coffee with your water and you can use electrolytes in your water. Then easy sailing.
@@andredaedone5 IDK I did 48 hrs once ...helped w the ketones anyway. Idk bout more than that but maybe w fasting mimicking I could. The benefits are apparently not known....
Thing is people need to use their brain more often, and think, not just accept "influencers". Since humans haven't really figured out how our bodies work, even though some pretend they do, just use the information you get, and sieve through it and find what fits you best.
Be careful with Thomas DeLauer. Dr. Westman criticized one of his videos. DeLauer entirely botched the interpretation of a study. Have found Westman, Sten Ekberg, Eric Berg, Jason Fung, Boz, and Mindy Pelz to be solid.
@@aieahi1 Yet, use your own brain to analyze the information you get, to understand what may be inconstant with chemical facts, and opinions even when they coincide with your own.
How long one can fasting safely depends on (1) cardiovascular pre existing conditions (2) pre existing thymus gland/immune system conditions (3) pre existing gut microbiome conditions (4) current glucose and lipid/fat stores in the body. (5) electrolyte/mineral levels at the end of a fast when breaking a fast.... to handle hunger pains - fiber and fat levels must be increased - to trigger ketosis - one has limit starch/sugar/carbohydrates all of the time
I am muscular, healthy five ten, 190 lbs. 31 inch waste, flat stomach. Today I ate: Breakfast: 745 am 3 eggs (1 yoke) 5 oz of ground beef 1 slice of cheese, cofee no sugar Lunch: 1pm 3 eggs (1 yoke) 4 oz of ground beef water Dinner: 530 pm serving of baked tuna, 4oz Ezekiel bread grilled cheese cup of cooked green beans cup of arugula water
Me neither, @cassieoz1702 , but he's really active! If I ate 1/2 lb of ground beef in a day, I couldn't find room for anything else, but I also don't work off as much
Going on the ultimate elimination diet /lifestyle change choice of eating mainly meat from ruminant animals, with electrolytes supplementation is the way to go. You can, at your own discretion add in things after a couple months strictly like this, to get a feel of what foods you may or may not be sensitive to. It won't correct itself overnight, but you will get results in days.
Dr. Westman, are there any recipes from Dr. Atkins that you have revised? I have his original books that I used for no carb years ago. And thinking about including them in my one meal a day program. Thank you.
This would be incredibly difficult. After 2-3 fasting, my appetite disappears. But if I just have a bite of something to "take the edge off," the hunger comes back. The other problem is this is too much protein - it takes a tiny amount of leucine or glucose to shut down autophagy.
One problem with this so-called fast-mimicking diet is that it won't sate you. So you'll feel starved, and it will be very hard not to fall off the wagon. I prefer a keto/Atkins diet, and then just normal fasting (water fast) for any kind of cleansing purposes. Any period where you actually eat, but can only eat non-sating things, would be very frustrating, and demand a rigorous regime of measuring/weighing everything. Not my cup of tea. FMD Kit: It's just typical how they have to add some kind of sweetener even to these things. The first thing anyone doing any kind of healthy diet must do is to get rid the constant sugar taste addiction!
Plants are good for you esp with meat. Those edited and processed plants are as bad as the edited and processed meats the vegans are using against meat eaters.
@@margaretbreuer2528 we need to remember that Dr. Westman is not a carnivore. He advocates a very low carbohydrate diet For myself I look up low oxalate and low carbohydrate vegetables, and fruits and have a few of them.
Ya, I bet in Dr Ekberg’s opinion our ancestors are super human calculators. It’s the very reason keto gives the impression that it’s very hard to do. Eating carnivore is simple straightforward no calculations needed, just a simple yes/no question to answer, is what I’m going to eat meat?
@@LittleRadicalThinkerno you just ate what you found while chasing around wild game through migratory patterns and 6+ months of the year there wasn't much to find. Stuff goes in season and out of season and droughts etc.
Drinking some heavy whipping cream is low protein and hign fat. It's super cheap, so I'll try it for a week and get back with y'all, lol. EDIT: it gave me terrible diarrhea, I do not recommend it.
I thought I remember the other Dr recommended to drink coffee with dollop of cream . drinking heavy whipping cream for a week? that would be a lot like drinking castor oil and yes! diarrhea 😮
I am eating low carb 50-77 net carbs, 50-75g protein, and 70-90g fat daily. I avoid starches, wheat and sugar. I have stage 3b kidney disease and can’t go extreme keto. I have lost 37 lbs in 1 year. Have 10 lbs to go to get to 160-165. I am not putting down any approach to losing weight. Do what works for you. I use MyNetDiary and keep track of carbs. I even have an afternoon protein fruit smoothie using 1/2 cup frozen fruit and two tablespoons Halo Top ice cream with unsweetened almond chocolate milk, 1 1/2 tablespoons plant based protein powder. .Exercise 3 times a week on my Total Gym. I am a 69 year old male, retired. Choose what makes you feel good. Don’t starve yourself. I have a hard time now consuming more than 1,200 calories a day.
I like the comment about eating = stress at the end, Dr. Westman, about digestion basically being stressful for our body and I fully agree. Also there is something that is pointing to true fasting being a healthy thing: Thinking about whenever you were really sick, hunger goes to basically zero(Ghrelin gets downregulated), our body wants to fast naturally but thanks to faulty "knowledge" we often still force food down the hatch, likely making the healing process for our bodies harder.
Ok, I've got to put my $0.03 in here! 7 years ago my traditional medical doctor offered me an option for lowering my LDL cholesterol. Because he knew I wouldn't take statins. He asked me if I would consider a fast mimicking diet. The one he gave me just in a nutshell is about 500 calories a day of coconut milk. I could have safe non caloric sweeteners and basically anything that was just fat but not from a animal. So I put cocoa powder in my coconut milk with some safe sweetener and made a shake everyday for my break fast around 1:00 or 2:00 and then I did a curry coconut soup. We were allowed two small handfuls of high water content vegetables a day so I put those in my soup. And I altered soup with a salad meal every other night. I used avocado oil on my salad and I cheated with a teaspoon of apple cider vinegar. So celery cucumbers broccoli peppers were probably okay but I hate them. I did that three times in a year and my LDL cholesterol went from extreme high to low. I thought it was really amazing! I always lost weight but gained it back pretty quickly and that was fine I didn't do it to lose weight. I'm sure if I had really wanted to keep that weight off I could but I was pretty skinny. I've been able to maintain a healthy level of cholesterol. I do try to do the cleanse once a year but sometimes get a little lazy. But I actually really like it.
Exactly my thought, too. I am sitting here, listening to Dr. Ekberg's complicated chart, my yaw drops, and I am thinking "Who the f-word does this if you could just as well do carnivore?". Besides, if I ate cauliflower and shit like that, I could get issues, for sure.
This reminds me a lot of the 1944 Minnesota Starvation Experiment. Obviously not the same makros and not as long, but stil a strange world in between eating and not eating. I remember, in my childhood, when people talked about fasting, they never ment dry fast or water fast, but only eating veg. soop. One big problem for me with this fasting mimiking diet would be the high carb content. With this I would feel hangry all day long and could probabely not sleep. So, I might last half a day. For 55 years I was unable to fast longer than 2-3 hours, I even interrupted sleep in order to eat. Once I discovered low carb / keto all changed for the better. It allows me to do 2 or even only 1 meals a day easily, as long as I don't do breakfast before 11AM. An earlier breakfast seems to bring me into a feeding mood. But usually on low carb I can even go up to a 30 hours fast. However, with 50gr of carbs (even, if spread over the day) my body and mind would scream for a full day of sugar binge eating. I guess everbody is a bit different. By the way: 200$ buys 5 days of this strange sugar diet or for me at todays conversion rate roughly 42 pound of good quality minced meet, which gives me roughly 1 full month of 2 meals a day, all in ketosis and probabely with more autopagy than with this starvation sugar diet, which was discussed in this video. Thanks for all Your videos. I learned a lot each time.😊 👍🏻
It's an interesting theory and it's a good hypothesis, but how do we even measure autophagy? How do we measure success? This is kind of out for me right now to even test because the foods I eat are basically fat + protein and I don't eat plants because for me they seem to cause issues, but still testing that so maybe in the long run they don't. At the moment though my severe hives and joint pain has disappeared, and I no longer snack. I would love to see an actual scientific paper on this though, seems like it might be worth doing as cleanse after you have gotten yourself healthy. I am kind of with you, leaning into long term success over a quick fix -- but it is interesting, and Dr. Ekberg is a knowledgeable man.
His strategy involves eating a lot of non-foods (greens and other things that don't really have any nutritional value) along with olive oil for fat. Random sweet potato which would ruin a lot of the benefits. Seems like a lot of trouble just to get some autophagy, especially when not eating anything would be better and easier. And that expensive kit sounds horrible. Personally, I simply eat once a day. No carbs, of course. I eat less often, I don't eat less food; thanks to nutritionally dense foods, a single meal gets me a full day's worth of nutrition. I might not eat for 20 to 26 hours between meals, it takes that long before I start being mildly hungry. If there's a healthier diet, I don't know what it is.
@@pcread I'm glad I fell asleep then before Eckberg started talking about plants! The video was finished when I woke up! Phew! Good timing! Right, so he's on about plants again huh what a crazy idea! I haven't any fruit at all for 6 months, & the only veges I eat are garlic & onion for flavour, & a baby carrot a coupla times a week. Well, the other day I ate a can of baked beans (from my post WWIII storage) cos I couldn't be bothered cooking. I have 2 slices of tasty cheese & 1 or 2 'twiggy' sticks (salami, 40g) early morning, as a 'snack', or early lunch. I eat nothing else until dinner time. So I fast 16 hours a day as it is. Is white coffee × 3 a day included as breaking my fast, or dropping me out of ketosis? I dunno, I don't have a cgm. But yeah, garlic & onion only, eat twice a day only. So yeah, as well intentioned as Eckberg is, I'm glad I dumped him off my carnivore diet doctor list like a shitty rag!
@@pcread If you have good gut bacteria or are repopulating your gut with specific strains you want that literal crap to feed your gut bacteria. Is it completely necessary? No. Is it further optimization for people who want it? Yes.
Dr Westman, I'd like to know your thoughts about putting children on carnivore. My daughter is 12y and weighted 70 kg (163 cm) 😢. I started with her carnivore 60 days ago and she's lost 6 kg! But I am afraid of our ped's reaction... I don't know what to do... she needs another 6 kgs to drop to get into normal range
The Orthodox concept of calories. Then the mix of mass and calories... Even WiKi has the body's composition as roughly 60/30/10 protein/fat/cards by mass. That is it. So, FMD is just to eat this way! Proved many times by many guys
I love salad, but I would feel very hungry on this diet. In fact, it would make me hungrier than fasting. With fasting, hunger ebbs and flows. Fasting also allows your body to rest. This diet might work for others, but it would not work well for me at all. I also don't like diets that focus on numbers rather than looking at the quality and satiety of the meal.
Sten is someone I used to watch years ago when I started a ketogenic diet. However, for the past 5+ years I have been carnivore and no longer watch his channel. I like the guy. He lives in the Atlanta area. I think he practices in Cumming Georgia, but as a carnivore his dietary advice doesn’t fit my lifestyle. By the way, I am 79 years old and on no meds.☸️❤️🙏
I'd rather just do a 5 day fast. I've done 3 day fasts with coffee, stevia, and water enhancers but I've been the same weight for like 3 years + and - 20lbs in both directions. Other than my long dead fat cells from 16 years ago, that need to be recycled what i really really need is 5 days to see if it would rebuild my ankles. Supposedly 4 day fast can get rid of tendon pain as the body is supposedly trying to fix everything that might be keeping you from hunting well. It's worth a shot for me. Alternative is just dealing with pain.
I think this is an attempt to recreate an affordable ad hoc version of the “fasting mimicking diet” of Dr. Valter Longo, an Italian cell biologist and professor at UC Davis’s School of Gerontology , who researched ‘the role fasting and nutrient response genes on cellular protection, aging and diseases.’* His facility now markets a prepackaged five-day fast, but it is pricey. In one interview, Dr. Longo remarked that fasting allowed patient response using half the normal dose of chemotherapy agents during cancer treatment. He advocates five-day fasting, and developed the “fat mimicking diet” to achieve better patient compliance. At least, that’s how I remember his interview. If you’re looking for studies on autophagy, his research might provide some of those answers.🤷🏼♀️ *(from Wikipedia bio)
Excellent video Dr. Westman! An extremely over-complicated dietary strategy from Dr. Ekberg that would lead to muscle loss. I much prefer the strategy of eating meat & eggs aiming for at least 2g protein per kg (0.9g/lb) of _ideal_ body mass and forget all those useless vegetables. Simple and I am getting the results I want (fat loss) while feeling satiated and amazing practicing OMAD. Some might call this a "protein-sparing modified fast" (PSMF).
2g of protein per lb of body mass sounds like overkill. Usually 35-50g of protein in a 30 minute period is sufficient for muscle protein synthesis for 2 hours. Most of the science seems to point to diminishing returns after the upper range of that. 100-200 grams should be sufficient for most people between 4"0' and 6"0'
New subscriber. I agree with you, Doc. Just eat smart and exercise, cur out stress, limit Alcohol intake, cut out all the process foods, sugars, sodas, cakes, (rare occasionally love one birthday etc if you choose not a must) low carb if necessary (working out at gym then decide how much is needed to stay active plus you need your protein you can monitor that too. You can fast as I am now its my 2 day water fast im going 3 full days.. it was not to lose weight but just a maintenance and other/spiritual connection. Just enjoy life with balance.
Sorry, love Dr. Ekberg but all these numbers, percentages, grams, calories and on and on…..crazy! WAY too much work to simply not eat for a time period! If you’re wanting to fast then FAST - water, black coffee, tea only.
@@VisorGirl Calculators & scales & shit? Yeah, screw that absolutely! I eat once or twice a day & fill up at dinner time. 2 slices of sharpish tasty cheese in the morning & that's it!.
After so many years of keto I hardly ever get actually "hungry". Some days I have to force myself to eat. I think I will start eating in the evening because that is a meal that people often share together and is a time to commune. I do love fresh organic veggies so I hadn't have a desire or actual need to go carnivore. I tend to be naturally thin but when I think back to my youth, I remember that I used to forget to eat a lot and I lived in NYC so I was naturally active - walking a lot - even going several blocks to enter the subways - by going up and down lots of stairs and walking really fast… lol
The issue with autophagy is that our body is already recycling cells that aren't up to scratch anyway. Sure it will do it sooner to cells that could still work some time and like Dr. Westman said, when you fast too long(how long is hard to say but at least over 3 days I'd say) it is likely the body will go after muscle mass eventually. The other issue with fasting is electrolytes, we need sodium, potassium and magnesium as well as some calcium to work well, add that if you're really fasting, it will likely not be needed with that fasting mimicking diet, maybe sodium will be a bit low with those foods, so salt it.
I did 48h fasting every Friday-Sunday for 30 weeks + 16/8 every other day. It required some kind of stubborness and perseverance 😊 but the effects are stunning. Strict keto was the key to make it possible (15-20g of carbs a day). Now I do 72h of "sardines" fasting every 2 week and it's very easy with amazing anti-inflammatory effect. It's like having a new body and a new brain too. I wish I had this knowledge 20-30 years ago, I could save my parents, both died too early and in pain because of metabolic diseases.
Wonderful! I am beginning this also.
This is a fantastic plan - totally agree with your 48 hr fast and am all about the 72 hr sardines - life changer! Would love to know some specifics about your 15-20 carb meals, please?
@@VisorGirl at first I was using a MOBR method from a book written by two polish doctors: Rodzen Brothers. Basically it's what dr Westman is promoting on his channel, with extra caution about some specific foods, which you might eat too much of and which are addictive and contain carbs (eg cheeses, tomatoes, some nuts, etc). For macro nutrients calculation I used an app (use one which is specific to your food market and contains food available locally) After about a month i bought CGM and to my surprise my glucose levels were perfect so I started fasting, first 16/8, then 24h fast. After about 3 months of keto-adaptation 48h every week. It's important to check how your body reacts to certain foods. Now I'm mostly carnivore but I bake keto bread sometimes or eat some berries in a season. But what I like the most is beef and eggs or fat pork meat (I buy unprocessed). And one particular type of cheese (it's my only addiction 😀).
I dry fasted weekends besides 22 hr keto OMAD during week
Lost 55# as an old fat lady, in 6 mos, no exercise needed
It was pure determination except the dry fasting (that obliterated hunger) and I lost a third to half of my scalp hair
Carni is much better, no fasting altho I rly should as I’ve got such slow results
@@greblus 😋 love cheese... However I'm trying to come to the acceptance that perhaps it doesn't like me, but the last that'll be able to give up will probably be parmesan or Romano because you get the nice cheesy without going too far but might still have to look at that Oh well it's a journey ....good for you 🤗 ...!
My grandparents and great grandparents lived oner 105 yrs, never fasted ate beans everyday dark coffee, dairy, meat, eggs some fruits guava, tamarindo, mango, coconut, cactus avocado and only three veggies chayote, potato and carrots they never knew what a salad was or berries they passed without health problems and good memory and teeth. They said secret for long health was walking outdoor everyday and staying active
Our grandparents did have scientists fuking with the food. I tried to find fruit with seeds i like in the supermarket, and the only things I bought were apples, red grapes, and a seeded watermelon. I'm not familiar with tropical fruits, but I'm going to learn because they all had seeds. The FDA failed every American. Bill Gates is a billionaire who eats tropical fruits.
Sounds like they ate whole foods too!
They ate fresh. No preservatives, no fake food.
I'm glad to hear they had a healthy life. 👍
❤ Am quite sure that our grand parents ate lot of meat
But with a huge leaky gut. That’s not health. It’s survive.
Dr Westman cannot thank you enough for keeping it simple and translating for us who can think but can easily be overwhelmed if we listen to all the voices. Thank you as always! You brighten my day and take the burden off our shoulders by the teaching you offer that never ceases to gift us in our daily walk with our eating.
Amen to that. 🎉
56 and have been in ketosis for over 2 years now, eating one meal a day intermittent fast between 18 to 24 hours every day. Lost well over 100 pounds of body weight. Was on prescription medications for over 25 years, and I got tired of all the side effects from meds. I slowly came off my meds within the first 3 months of starting keto.
With the intermittent fasting, do you have loose skin?
I’ve been on OMAD for 5 months, fast 1 to 3 days a week.
Have lost 70 pounds.
I have lost 16 lb in 2 weeks but it's my 5 week I m not loosing weight any more what should I do . I did omad . And in 3rd week 3 day water fast I lost 2 kg in 3 days but get it back after 2 days what should I do should I do 2 day 3 day fast or omad ? I m worried about my waight loss
@@mouzzamahmad2171
Don’t sweat it.
Hears what I would do.
Now, don’t go nuts with this, but,
On a Saturday, and in your eating window, go get what you want.
For me it was a Cheesesteak and fries.
It’ll shock the system.
Do NOT do another 3 day fast for a month.
Your body is getting used to it.
Lay off that for a while.
And watch your calories everyday, but eat everyday for a month then try a fast again and see what happens.
And make sure you take a good multi-vitamin to make sure you’re getting vitamins you may not be getting through food.
Now, I’m no doctor.
So do what you want.
But drink at least 2 liters of water a day.
Water is good for weightloss and 2 liters isn’t hard to get down in a day.
@@mouzzamahmad2171
That’s a little dangerous.
The most I have ever lost in a week is 4 to 4.5 and that’s a lot.
The reason that’s dangerous is if your body isn’t getting enough protein, it will go after your muscles.
Mote to the point, your heart.
Don’t concentrate so much on the multiple day fasting, concentrate on your caloric deficit.
Eat everyday, but make sure you are at a good caloric deficit.
@@Runner2000 I eat meat around 300 to 400 and some time more and 300 gram or more carb and dates apple 4 walton 1 or 2 day a week honey and milk with chia seeds, ghee 2 3 table spoon per day in a single sitting and by eating this I m now 88 kg before I was 95 . I also take green tea . By eating this I lost this much waight but now I m not loosing I will do 3 day fat and I will try keto diet for a week to break this plateau inshallah
After watching this video with Dr.Ekberg and many other doctors, I am more and more a fan of Dr.Westman!
I love the simplicity of what he shares for free!
Nothing new here, like many others I have tried listening to many, many other doctors and so called experts or influencers and Dr.Westman is by far the best.
I love the graciousness and lack of attitude! Dr.Westman’s approach
KISS!
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Sir (I’m being kind)
I cannot agree more with Dr. Westman. No special food to purchase other than what is in the grocery store.
THANK YOU DR.WESTMAN!!
Oh, hey, congratulations on cracking the 200K subscriber count! 🎉🥳
I love how you listen to your patients and check out their information learn from them and then teach us from your insights.
Dr Ekberg is great for figures on food and getting a plan together after helping breaking a cycle of soley counting calories! He really helped from the start educating on carbohydrate and sugar impact.
I use the 8 hours of sleep ,+ not eating after 7 pm and not having my first meal before 9 am. That gives me 14 hours a day of fasting
Ditto! Almost. Breakfast toast 10-11 am. Lunch bag of popcorn 79 calories. Lunch/ dinner high protein 4-5pm. Live yogurt & honey 🍯 before 7pm. Sugar cravings under control. Losing the stubborn belly fat. My BMI doen to 23.0 from 27.02 😅
This is just one of Dr Eckberg’s videos. He never suggests you should just eat the typical American diet the rest of the time. Many of his videos teach a daily low carb diet, specific foods and additives to avoid, as well as foods that you should include in your diet. He also teaches a lot about insulin sensitivity and fatty liver disease. In fact much of his focus is reversing metabolic diseases.
Precisely, I love dr eckberg video’s!
I started to address my prediabetes and weight starting with his videos first, and ended up here and other related videos; so I agree, this particular video was a bit atypical for him. It assumes that fasting is helpful, and it assumes that the low protein helps with autophagy -- the exact things Dr. Westman pointed out.
I eat a low carb dinner (usually around 15 carbs) once every 24-26 hours. No snacks. Been doing it for over 5 years. It works for me.
I think all these doctors make awesome educational videos and it’s only natural they all have their own way of understanding of what they teach. At the end of the day, listen and learn and turn do what works for “your” body. I never had any interest in extended fasts but my only goal right now is fat loss. I’ve transitioned into a protein sparring modified fast three days a week and it broke my long plateau. I will continue to watch these keto/carnivore doctors and apply what works for me.
I love it. You listen to your body and do what works for you.
@@karenlantz1438 That logic always worked for me! 😁
As always you have given a balanced and fair science-based review. Thank you,
Yes take your science based safe and effective clot shot. Science is captured by big pharma. I don’t trust big pharma or science.
Thank you Dr Westman
I love the way you explain things in these videos
You were the beginning of my 3 year journey to better health and lifestyle
You bring balance without obsession
Pleas keep this up
I have watched a lot of Dr. Ekberg's videos. I think it is important to note that you cannot look at this fasting alternative in isolation. He certainly isn't saying to do this and then go back to a SAD diet the rest of the time. This is merely an alternative to a three day water fast for those who should not or cannot do traditional fasting. He does espouse a long-term lifestyle change in eating real food.
This guy said they can disagree... Please don't present these 2 great teachers as adversarial. Thank you❤
I’m staying with my success ! Dr. Berry and this Dr. W. Have made me successful seeking my goals! If it ain’t broke, leave it alone! My goal for the last 10 years, was 265 pounds! I’m at 235 pounds, now, in trapped in a recliner! I’m sticking with what I know works! Thanks for educating me on eating habits!
I have been eager to understand fasting and autophagy better. Thank you for this video Dr Westman
I eat most one big meal a day, with a lot of protein, then I’m full. My weight is dropping fast. I like it this way. Not hungry, still loosing weight.
Wow that’s great I’m happy for you😇But I wish you stated what was in that one meal? Or at least the usual things you eat? What? Like mostly meat with a little vegs & fats?
Wish my weight was dropping fast! Have a HS reunion in Sept 2024 to go to & id love to be slimmer🙏
@@guitarsong4Jesus I would try the Carnivore Diet and I do two meals a day it's low carb easy and the weight is coming off cause the last meal no carbs so your body will burn fat stores better just some info..It's just so easy to follow btw.
I really respect Dr. Westman because he has years and years of research and actually treating patients with diet. Thank you sir for all you do. I really wish I could convince my friends and coworkers to eat this way, but it’s next to impossible to get through to people here in Tennessee, where they have been raised to eat “biscuits and gravy”.
I follow carnivore, eat fatty red meat, sometimes oily fish, add butter to my coffee instead of milk or cream. I eat once per day, i dont get hungry, feel i could easily go longer between meals, as our hunter ancestors would have and gave evolutionary advantage. Lean, low BMI, good muscle mass and bone mass for my age.
How much calories you ate in that one meal? I really want to do omad but i can't stuff 1700 calories in one sitting.
Don’t be concerned about calories
Eat to satiety
@@threadfix but sometimes i only eat like 1200 a day and feel full. Is it ok to ignore?
Have you noticed that you don't feel eating poultry and drinking wine as well? To me it was revolutionary...
@@Takuma_Sakazaki
I make a bulletproof coffee that consists of 1/2 cup heavy whipping cream, with a full stick of butter (cubed up). That constitutes the “liquid” for the coffee. I heat the cream and the butter in the microwave and then pour it into a single serve blender container, and add two scoops of instant coffee. Since I take powdered glycine (dirt cheap amino acid) as a supplement, I add my daily dose in as well, because it is sweet tasting, and I don’t have to worry about sugar or any other artificial sweeteners. It’s around 1200 calories total, with only 3 grams of carbs. That is the only carbs total in my diet. It really helps to add lots of calories in such a small volume of liquid, when you’re trying to do OMAD.
I am on my 3 day of a 7 day fast now. And I am a Carnivore. Water only. If you fast, then fast. Quit pussy footing around with teasing yourself with food. The thing I like about it is everday it feels like your stomach is deflating a bit more. I dont get hungry, my little bit of fat keeps me in check.
It's therapeutic 😌
Car full of muscle loss . Very important to get the protein after the fast .
Fasting is not necessary when you’re on the carnivore diet because your insulin is always stable. Check out Dr. Anthony Chaffee.
I am at the 2.75 day fast stage right now…lost 8 pounds so far… this 3 day fast ends at 5 p.m. today.
But I figure…why eat at 5 p.m….just keep going…and I may get to drop 10 pounds by tomorrow a.m. making it just over a 3.5 day fast. Good luck everybody‼
I am carnivore…if I eat veggies…I will crave every carb in sight…and I will be in pain.
I cannot eat what this doc Ekberg is advocating. I am sticking with doc Westman.
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@@gladysobrien1055 I never did it for weight loss, I did it for autophagy. I only lasted 4 days, going from fat burning to starvation. I am pretty lean. Just remember when you break the fast to eat a light meal and wait until the next day to eat again. I break my fast with a can of sockeye salmon sauteed in butter. I am Carnivore also.
No one wants to do all those calculations!🙄
I think we should Eat Less! & Avoid Sugars.
I seem to be one of the nobodys realy interested in all these details about how to get healthy 😊❤🕊.
me too
If you are really ill you will want to check
So far I am overwhelmed by this doctor's rational approach. At last! I've been confused about so many conflicting diets that I see. I feel relieved to hear that I don't have to starve myself! Thank you Doctor ❤
I don't see the bother with this "autophagy" diet. I'd rather just not eat for 24 hours.
You can't fast every day. You can for a while but eventually it will cause issues.
Keto and fasting is like a hop skip and a jump. Fasting and then doing what ever after is more of 2 steps forward, one step back.
I just keep doing intermittent fasting, like fasting about 16 hours a day. Easy peasy.
Autophagy happens with fasting
This won’t have autophagy as ur eating
@@makaisenkiI have been Intermittent Fasting every day for over 5 years now and just had my physical a week ago and blood work was perfect. I am Insulin Sensitive with is a good thing because being Insulin Resistant is what causes many diseases.
@@alysezalazinski5599 I said you can't fast every day. I was talking about 24 hour fasts. Intermittent fasts of course you can do that every day. How else would you sleep. You'd die of sleep deprivation. Reading between the lines is important.
Correct! Carnivore or low carb diet IS fed fasting! I like three small meals of animal protein and eggs, with about 30 to 60 grams of non processed carbs total.
Better to cut back to 2 meals within 4 hours of each other. Less insulin spikes. Yes meat does spike insulin a little bit. Leaner meat spikes insulin much more that fatty meat.
I so appreciate the way you explain things, Dr. W. It gives me encouragement to keep it simple and forge ahead. On day 5 of my new carnivore life and loving it so far!
What exactly do you disagree with Dr Sten Ekberg on? What science do you think he's got wrong? Don't just say vaguely that you think he's wrong on something. Show comparative evidence. He shows a lot of science on every video and he's a very good communicator so easy to understand even though English is probably not his first language.
Too many people here are saying Dr. Westman's words are understandable while Dr. Ekberg is too technical. I find it funny that people prefer dumbing down instead of basic good knowledge that still does not violate the philosophy of simplicity.
To listen to dr. Ekberg is like getting a lecture from a Quantum mechanics expert explaining what to do to get your car running better. All you need is a mechanic that advise you to change the oil and get a better fuel and drive more efficiently. He is definitely a doctor that you will depend upon, while dr. Eric is promoting freedom by providing practical and simple information that allows me to live better without having to count, measure and worry about other things then eating properly, i.e., nutrition dense food, like my uncestry used to do. Thanks dr. Eric to persist on your education path. And sorry i couldn't watch the whole video as it's very hard for me to get the other doctor.
I like Dr. Ekberg's style and Dr. Westman’s even more. Dr. Westman makes it simple:
U r one of the most reasonable doc around about food, diet
I’m very disappointed with how Dr. Westman misinterpreted and misconstrued Dr. Ekberg’s message.
Westman seems to have no time for autophagy, and I didn't note him finding metabolic value in fasting. Westman compared the mammalian body to a car, an extremely poor analogy. We are a myriad of interlocking processes that find mutual balance, homeostasis. Perturbation, knocking the system out of balance, is necessary to induce tuning of the various subsystems. Without this type of good stress it is possible--if not likely--to fall into suboptimal or unhealthy stasis. Think Antifragile by Nassim Taleb.
Note that he asked people to sign up for his webinar.
Sounds more like a salesman type doctor the ones which you usually find in your hospitals paid by pharma.
Dr Eckbergs is far beyond qualified and certainly could teach this gentleman a trick or 2. It is clear that he missrepressented the whole video of Mr Eckert even disqualifying him to then sell us a webinar.
Jaaon Fung called keto a fasting mimicking diet a thousand years ago...
Really, when? I have followed him extensively, read two of his books but don’t recall any mention of that. Thanks in advance!
@@Snowsea-gs4wu It's been a long time since I read his books, but I believe in "Obesity Code" he recommends eating keto/low carb for the easiest transition to fasting. I think bc once in ketosis, it's easier on the body for fat adaptation. I think he said it, too, in some you-tube lectures tho I can't write up the footnotes if that's what you're looking for. Sound familiar? Best luck. (I thought autophagy was real from listening to Fung, & am disappointed to hear W say it's theoretical. You?)
@@mariad1151I have damage to my ankles.
There were Nobel prizes when autophagy. The thing is it's really hard to measure how many cells are getting eaten and recycled.
If you want evidence of autophagy watch Dr Boz. For example she has a video about 2 women who both lost weight. One did it her way with fasting, the other did it with standard treatments. Boz's patient didn't have saggy skin. The standard weight loss lady did.
Now she is also going to Dr Boz to lose that lose skin.
With the damage in my ankles supposedly in order to heal them I need a strict 3-5 day fast and the autophagy will go into over drive. It's supposed to be trying to fix everything in hopes that you will be able to hunt or gather in order to not die.
I would be able to have salt and water and that's about it. At least I won't have to cook for a while.
Jason Fung looks good for a thousand years old ... 😳
It was more like 3000 years ago
As one who has followed Elberg for years, I think he would mostly agree with you. I think he's just addressing the different popular options out there and is trying to help explain why they may work or not work.
Just eat beef. Don’t need to do calculations.
I tried to follow Ekberg's recommendations for a while. So much calculating! I prefer - some meat, 2 cups of leafy greens, couple of eggs, and some ACV. Much simpler.
I love Dr. Eckman. He was there in the beginning for me. This video of his Dr. Westman reviewed was certainly not anything i would ever be interested in doing but i do like to do a 3 day fast a couple times a year spring and fall. I feel wonderful when i do and look forward to it
They are doctors of chiropractic. Just like medical doctors, there are good ones and there are bad ones. Chiropractors kept my husband able to function with his lower back issues and also kept him from having to have knee surgery after an injury. ❤
Cool, we love Dr Ekberg. Sten is cool. Dr Berg and Dr Westman are my three favorite keto UA-camrs.
Same !
This isnt what Ekberg normally presents. This fasting memicing diet is base on Walter Longo's diet. longo is a vegan, hence no meat. Normally Ekberg is pro protein.
Longo isn't a vegan, he eats fish, his diet is lower in animal protein but higher in plant protein keeping IGF-1 at the lower end. He's based it on a traditional mediterranean diet that was mostly plant based with some animal products.
Longo had done research on the effects of fasting on cancer / chemotherapy treatments. He created the fast mimicking diet for those who can’t go without eating. He even commercialized a product - Prolon.
Similarly, Atkins didn’t create his diet. But the original was to not eat for 3 days. Then go low carb. Thinking people wouldn’t water fast for 3 days, Atkins used a 20 g daily carb limit for 2 weeks. Personally, think a 3 day (or longer) water fast is better.
I see two problems eating this low protein diet as prescribed by Dr Engberg is you can't just but 25g of leeks ect ect. The waste on this diet would be enormous, unless you ate the same thing day in day out. Secondly if you are like me who is trying to actually put on muscle mass this would greatly hinder this. I personally prefer to eat two meals a day between 2pm and 6pm. I tend to do my cardio in the morning and then do my resistance training around 1 Pm for an hour, so break my fast with protein rich foods (but low carb) then have my main meal of low carb high protein around 6pm then nothing until the next day at 2pm. This works for me. I have lost 85Lb and reversed all my metabolic markers and I'm off virtually all my meds. I am never hungry and have been doing this lifestyle for about 18 months now and feel so much better for it.
Dear Dr Eric, with greatest of respect, your commentary just constantly interrupts Dr Sten's own excellent thesis, yet doesn't usefully clarify our understanding of Ekberg's own excellent commentary. I'll wait to watch the original, thanks.
ok
dr chaffee said being in ketosis puts you in autophagy so its like fasting 24/7 your entire life. the design was meant for recycling to happen 24/7 which is the optimal design.
No. Ketosis does not necessarily put a person in autophagy. That is delusion. Autophagy means that certain catabolism of unwanted tissue in the body happen. Ketosis is autophagic only if there is adequate lowering of calorie intake otherwise it is just plain ketosis and often anabolic which by the way is great for physical fitness.
@@simplehealthyliving4681 you actually dont make sense. your statements contradict each other. your first statement "catabolism of unwanted tissue in the body" is autophagy. i agree with this. it is a normal regular process in the body. the sensible and logical design is your body particularly your mitochondria will repair/remove damaged cells in your body "when it detects them". you contradicted yourself(and logic) when you said autophagy only happens when there is lowering of caloric intake. that doesnt make sense, THE SENSIBLE SIGNAL FOR AUTOPHAGY(FOR THE MITOCHONRIA TO DO ITS WORK) IS WHEN SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE REPLACED AND NOT WHEN THERE IS LOW CALORIC INTAKE. low caloric intake can trigger autophagy but the primary reason for autophagy is when there is a need to replace damaged cells and the design is it happens 24/7. mitochondria is going around in the body always looking for cells that need replacement. it doesnt make sense at all if mitochondria detects a damaged cell that needs to be replaced, and it doesnt replace or repair it right then and there and has to wait for you to lower your caloric intake lmao. so you are in autophagy 24/7 when you are in ketosis and your insulin is low because that has been the design for millions of years for humans(humans on a primarily high fat high animal protein carnivore diet and be in ketosis all the time) . the problem arises when you eat carbs/sugar because it is a scientific fact that autophagy is turned off when your insulin rises. sugar/carbs ruins the design. insulin suppresses autophagy. so if you disagree with me, please come up with a clear, coherent and logical and detailed explanation why.
*and also i think it would take millions of years for humans to evolve into animals that thrives on carb/sugar diet but weve only been at it for 12 thousand years.
@@simplehealthyliving4681I don't think it's the lowering of calories. Autophagy is a bit higher level of ketosis, so it is to lower insulin. There it could be difficult to get if eating beef, or dairy because the protein can give a slight elevated bloodsugar. Still you'd be low enough to have ketone between 0.5 - 1.5 but autophagy you want a higher level of ketones. Dr Shawn Baker changed the ratio of fat and beef when he had injuries his neck and wanted to raise ketones. He ate more butter.
@@johannas.l.brushane2518 What you are describing is high grade ketosis. Autophagy, real autophagy that eats cancer cells, that eats inflammatory cells healing nagging skeleto-msucular joint pain is far, far above ketosis. Your body needs to feel it is starving in order to start eating these debris cells leftover in the body for months and probably years. You achieve basic level of real autophagy by actual water fasting with nothing but salts for at least 2.5-3 days. You achieve next level of real autophagy by first breaking the fast and eating mainly ketogenic maintenance calorie diet and then repeating the 2.5-3 day fast after a few days.
Respectfully, your thinking is incorrect. The name itself says it all - auto - phagy - body eats (breaks down) the protein of its own bad cells thus getting rid of such debris. Warning - you stop fasting before body starts eating its own healthy cells from vital organs. So fast but don't do crazy long fasts. Fast, break the fast with non-excess maintenance keto diet (maybe go a little into low-carb even), repeat fasting as per your goals (reducing / removing cancer cells, inflammatory cells etc.)
16+ hrs of Fasting is necessary for meaningful autophagy. Eating beef make 16-24 hr fasts easy and natural. Not hungry anymore. Longer fasts of course boost that autophagy even more. Non fasting days be sure to eat until satiated. Don’t want to get frail.
I only follow Dr Westman because he backs everything up with science.
That's why I follow Dr. Jason Fung, author of obesity code
Thank you for your take on autophagy. I found myself wondering where his data is.
In 2023, due to circumstances beyond my control, I had to work physically hard over a 48-hour period of time and could not get my food. I ended up in the emergency room, and the attending physican, after listening to me, ordered a barrage of tests. I became unconscious at some point and was admitted into an acute care setting. The primary diagnosis was that of rhabdomylisis. My body had consumed all available resources and started using my heart for fuel. The treatment was aggressive and very frightening. I spent three days in an acute care unit before I could go home. So, for me, missing my meals for two days and working hard nearly killed me. Be careful who you listen to about how and what to eat.
You are not supposed to do physical demanding work. When you fast, you shoukd be in "slow motion and rest more and drink sea salt water. 8 gram per 2 Litters.
You were mostly likely dehydrated, lacking electrolytes. Perhaps you did not have enough resources in your body to begin with. There are too many factors to consider before assuming that 48 hrs of no food almost killed you.
@arieladelinechoo9845 I understand..I only did so out of duress and threats
@@kathylong2513 I am alive because an emergency room doctor knew what he was doing.
@@Andrea-u2f that's terrible. Please take care. Do not fast long hours and do hard work....🙏
Doesn’t it make more sense to do a real fast and spend zero dollars on no food ?
😂
Agree. He's adding so many unnecessary steps to get autophagy. I think it would be better to have a plan to ease into fasting
100% - an _eating_ fast is a _cheating_ fast.
I quit listening to Berg and Ekberg after transitioning to carnivore because I don’t easily get hungry every 20 hours now.
I just Eat fatty meat to satiety, add salt to taste and drink clean water to hydrate.
Same here. Both these Bergs helped me find the path in the beginning but once I found better guides I left the Bergs behind.
Me too, and at that point it's really easy to do a 24hr fast. A mimicking diet seems to be a lot of work, and all that veg !!
Same here, both Bergs got me on the journey and helped me immensely and they led me toward Dr. Westmen and Dr. Berry.
Clean water to wash toxins from meat?
Autophagy does work. When I fast my skin gets clearer. The only issue when you go back to eating , you must go slow and not gorge yourself. I fasted for 14 days before and never lost any muscle that I could tell. Your body becomes very efficient.
14 days!!!!
Annually, I fast for 40 days, like Jesus.
@@InTheMiddleOfAForest I had a friend back in the day when I was in the Navy that would fast for 30 days and jog most of those days. A little too crazy for me. I don't do more than 7 to 9 now.
@@mariad1151 Once you get past third or fourth day it's fine. I don't do 14 any more. If you drink black coffee you can do the first two days drinking coffee with your water and you can use electrolytes in your water. Then easy sailing.
@@andredaedone5 IDK I did 48 hrs once ...helped w the ketones anyway. Idk bout more than that but maybe w fasting mimicking I could. The benefits are apparently not known....
Thing is people need to use their brain more often, and think, not just accept "influencers". Since humans haven't really figured out how our bodies work, even though some pretend they do, just use the information you get, and sieve through it and find what fits you best.
Yes!🩵
Be careful with Thomas DeLauer. Dr. Westman criticized one of his videos. DeLauer entirely botched the interpretation of a study.
Have found Westman, Sten Ekberg, Eric Berg, Jason Fung, Boz, and Mindy Pelz to be solid.
@@aieahi1 Yet, use your own brain to analyze the information you get, to understand what may be inconstant with chemical facts, and opinions even when they coincide with your own.
BLA BLA ok
@@susanargyle1357 Is that all you can say, sad, proves me right.
How long one can fasting safely depends on (1) cardiovascular pre existing conditions (2) pre existing thymus gland/immune system conditions (3) pre existing gut microbiome conditions (4) current glucose and lipid/fat stores in the body. (5) electrolyte/mineral levels at the end of a fast when breaking a fast.... to handle hunger pains - fiber and fat levels must be increased - to trigger ketosis - one has limit starch/sugar/carbohydrates all of the time
You and Dr. Elkberg are awesome!
Dr. Elbert is probably the best doctor, online Only other than dr. Westman
Absolutely agree!!!
Hmm he didn't really impress me
Ekberg?
Only of you want to be plant based.
Dr Ken berry and Dr Ford also , all are excellent
I am muscular, healthy five ten, 190 lbs. 31 inch waste, flat stomach.
Today I ate:
Breakfast: 745 am
3 eggs (1 yoke)
5 oz of ground beef
1 slice of cheese,
cofee no sugar
Lunch: 1pm
3 eggs (1 yoke)
4 oz of ground beef
water
Dinner: 530 pm
serving of baked tuna, 4oz
Ezekiel bread grilled cheese
cup of cooked green beans
cup of arugula
water
yolk
I'm very happy for you. I just cannot eat that much protein food because I've tried
Good for you
Me neither, @cassieoz1702 , but he's really active! If I ate 1/2 lb of ground beef in a day, I couldn't find room for anything else, but I also don't work off as much
I eat similar but without the dinner
Dr Eckberg is a sweetheart. I don't agree always either but the man is wonderful. 😊
Going on the ultimate elimination diet /lifestyle change choice of eating mainly meat from ruminant animals, with electrolytes supplementation is the way to go. You can, at your own discretion add in things after a couple months strictly like this, to get a feel of what foods you may or may not be sensitive to. It won't correct itself overnight, but you will get results in days.
Dr. Westman, are there any recipes from Dr. Atkins that you have revised? I have his original books that I used for no carb years ago. And thinking about including them in my one meal a day program. Thank you.
This would be incredibly difficult. After 2-3 fasting, my appetite disappears. But if I just have a bite of something to "take the edge off," the hunger comes back.
The other problem is this is too much protein - it takes a tiny amount of leucine or glucose to shut down autophagy.
Reverse diabetes
Also why not js lift weights to use up those proteins?
Thank you for sharing this valuable content. well done . I will improve on extended fasting
One problem with this so-called fast-mimicking diet is that it won't sate you. So you'll feel starved, and it will be very hard not to fall off the wagon. I prefer a keto/Atkins diet, and then just normal fasting (water fast) for any kind of cleansing purposes. Any period where you actually eat, but can only eat non-sating things, would be very frustrating, and demand a rigorous regime of measuring/weighing everything. Not my cup of tea.
FMD Kit: It's just typical how they have to add some kind of sweetener even to these things. The first thing anyone doing any kind of healthy diet must do is to get rid the constant sugar taste addiction!
I've just got rid of the toxic vegetables!
Right? Right! Stay carnivore! 🏆💪
Plants are good for you esp with meat. Those edited and processed plants are as bad as the edited and processed meats the vegans are using against meat eaters.
Great!!!
@@margaretbreuer2528 we need to remember that Dr. Westman is not a carnivore. He advocates a very low carbohydrate diet For myself I look up low oxalate and low carbohydrate vegetables, and fruits and have a few of them.
Good for you! I hope your oxalete dumping wasn't too bad
Maybe I'm stupid, it just seems so complicated to keep up, too much calculation to think of for me.
Same here way to many carbs
Ya, I bet in Dr Ekberg’s opinion our ancestors are super human calculators. It’s the very reason keto gives the impression that it’s very hard to do. Eating carnivore is simple straightforward no calculations needed, just a simple yes/no question to answer, is what I’m going to eat meat?
@@LittleRadicalThinkerno you just ate what you found while chasing around wild game through migratory patterns and 6+ months of the year there wasn't much to find. Stuff goes in season and out of season and droughts etc.
@@makaisenki Well, I just trying my best to not eat carbs now.
Truing to comprehend your words, I accidentally read "droughts" as "donuts".... twice. @makaisenki ....Have mercy 😂 my subconscious wants a donut!
Can you take suppliments during fasting? Drink lemon and ginger?
"...and you can clean the house Every Day".....i like that plan. Thanks Dr. Westman
Drinking some heavy whipping cream is low protein and hign fat. It's super cheap, so I'll try it for a week and get back with y'all, lol. EDIT: it gave me terrible diarrhea, I do not recommend it.
I thought I remember the other Dr recommended to drink coffee with dollop of cream . drinking heavy whipping cream for a week? that would be a lot like drinking castor oil and yes! diarrhea 😮
traditional fasting in many cultures including eating limited foods (especially religious fasts) and excluding specific food categories
I am eating low carb 50-77 net carbs, 50-75g protein, and 70-90g fat daily. I avoid starches, wheat and sugar. I have stage 3b kidney disease and can’t go extreme keto. I have lost 37 lbs in 1 year. Have 10 lbs to go to get to 160-165. I am not putting down any approach to losing weight. Do what works for you. I use MyNetDiary and keep track of carbs. I even have an afternoon protein fruit smoothie using 1/2 cup frozen fruit and two tablespoons Halo Top ice cream with unsweetened almond chocolate milk, 1 1/2 tablespoons plant based protein powder. .Exercise 3 times a week on my Total Gym. I am a 69 year old male, retired. Choose what makes you feel good. Don’t starve yourself. I have a hard time now consuming more than 1,200 calories a day.
I like the comment about eating = stress at the end, Dr. Westman, about digestion basically being stressful for our body and I fully agree. Also there is something that is pointing to true fasting being a healthy thing: Thinking about whenever you were really sick, hunger goes to basically zero(Ghrelin gets downregulated), our body wants to fast naturally but thanks to faulty "knowledge" we often still force food down the hatch, likely making the healing process for our bodies harder.
In the”New Atkins for a New You” which you co-authored, recipes include canola oil. What is your current position on the various oils?
Ok, I've got to put my $0.03 in here! 7 years ago my traditional medical doctor offered me an option for lowering my LDL cholesterol. Because he knew I wouldn't take statins. He asked me if I would consider a fast mimicking diet. The one he gave me just in a nutshell is about 500 calories a day of coconut milk. I could have safe non caloric sweeteners and basically anything that was just fat but not from a animal. So I put cocoa powder in my coconut milk with some safe sweetener and made a shake everyday for my break fast around 1:00 or 2:00 and then I did a curry coconut soup. We were allowed two small handfuls of high water content vegetables a day so I put those in my soup. And I altered soup with a salad meal every other night. I used avocado oil on my salad and I cheated with a teaspoon of apple cider vinegar. So celery cucumbers broccoli peppers were probably okay but I hate them. I did that three times in a year and my LDL cholesterol went from extreme high to low. I thought it was really amazing! I always lost weight but gained it back pretty quickly and that was fine I didn't do it to lose weight. I'm sure if I had really wanted to keep that weight off I could but I was pretty skinny. I've been able to maintain a healthy level of cholesterol. I do try to do the cleanse once a year but sometimes get a little lazy. But I actually really like it.
Awesome. Thank you for sharing. People who live in coconut available regions are really lucky if they follow a similar cleanse from time to time.
Can’t believe there are still people that think calories are significant…..
Counting carbs too complicated carnivore my way no carbs!
Exactly my thought, too. I am sitting here, listening to Dr. Ekberg's complicated chart, my yaw drops, and I am thinking "Who the f-word does this if you could just as well do carnivore?". Besides, if I ate cauliflower and shit like that, I could get issues, for sure.
This reminds me a lot of the 1944 Minnesota Starvation Experiment. Obviously not the same makros and not as long, but stil a strange world in between eating and not eating. I remember, in my childhood, when people talked about fasting, they never ment dry fast or water fast, but only eating veg. soop.
One big problem for me with this fasting mimiking diet would be the high carb content. With this I would feel hangry all day long and could probabely not sleep. So, I might last half a day. For 55 years I was unable to fast longer than 2-3 hours, I even interrupted sleep in order to eat. Once I discovered low carb / keto all changed for the better. It allows me to do 2 or even only 1 meals a day easily, as long as I don't do breakfast before 11AM. An earlier breakfast seems to bring me into a feeding mood. But usually on low carb I can even go up to a 30 hours fast. However, with 50gr of carbs (even, if spread over the day) my body and mind would scream for a full day of sugar binge eating. I guess everbody is a bit different.
By the way: 200$ buys 5 days of this strange sugar diet or for me at todays conversion rate roughly 42 pound of good quality minced meet, which gives me roughly 1 full month of 2 meals a day, all in ketosis and probabely with more autopagy than with this starvation sugar diet, which was discussed in this video.
Thanks for all Your videos. I learned a lot each time.😊 👍🏻
Your the best, thanks for the imformation
Hello, learning from your videos . Thank You. Can you do a video about Dr. William Li?
It's an interesting theory and it's a good hypothesis, but how do we even measure autophagy? How do we measure success? This is kind of out for me right now to even test because the foods I eat are basically fat + protein and I don't eat plants because for me they seem to cause issues, but still testing that so maybe in the long run they don't. At the moment though my severe hives and joint pain has disappeared, and I no longer snack. I would love to see an actual scientific paper on this though, seems like it might be worth doing as cleanse after you have gotten yourself healthy. I am kind of with you, leaning into long term success over a quick fix -- but it is interesting, and Dr. Ekberg is a knowledgeable man.
I only eat food I prepare. Dr Westman is logical in dietary advice.
Dr Eric Westman, Happy 4th !! 🎉🎉
His strategy involves eating a lot of non-foods (greens and other things that don't really have any nutritional value) along with olive oil for fat. Random sweet potato which would ruin a lot of the benefits. Seems like a lot of trouble just to get some autophagy, especially when not eating anything would be better and easier. And that expensive kit sounds horrible.
Personally, I simply eat once a day. No carbs, of course. I eat less often, I don't eat less food; thanks to nutritionally dense foods, a single meal gets me a full day's worth of nutrition. I might not eat for 20 to 26 hours between meals, it takes that long before I start being mildly hungry. If there's a healthier diet, I don't know what it is.
fiber? leafy greens? pass.
Fiber is bad for chrones and ibs
You can have plenty of fiber and leafy greens in keto
@@makaisenki keto technically yes. But leafy greens are oxalate laden and fibre is literally sh1t. Just indigestible bulk.
@@pcread I'm glad I fell asleep then before Eckberg started talking about plants! The video was finished when I woke up! Phew! Good timing!
Right, so he's on about plants again huh what a crazy idea!
I haven't any fruit at all for 6 months, & the only veges I eat are garlic & onion for flavour, & a baby carrot a coupla times a week. Well, the other day I ate a can of baked beans (from my post WWIII storage) cos I couldn't be bothered cooking.
I have 2 slices of tasty cheese & 1 or 2 'twiggy' sticks (salami, 40g) early morning, as a 'snack', or early lunch.
I eat nothing else until dinner time. So I fast 16 hours a day as it is. Is white coffee × 3 a day included as breaking my fast, or dropping me out of ketosis? I dunno, I don't have a cgm. But yeah, garlic & onion only, eat twice a day only.
So yeah, as well intentioned as Eckberg is, I'm glad I dumped him off my carnivore diet doctor list like a shitty rag!
@@pcread If you have good gut bacteria or are repopulating your gut with specific strains you want that literal crap to feed your gut bacteria.
Is it completely necessary? No. Is it further optimization for people who want it? Yes.
What would you eat if you have atrophic gastritis, low stomach acid? Need healed.
Dr Westman, I'd like to know your thoughts about putting children on carnivore. My daughter is 12y and weighted 70 kg (163 cm) 😢. I started with her carnivore 60 days ago and she's lost 6 kg! But I am afraid of our ped's reaction... I don't know what to do... she needs another 6 kgs to drop to get into normal range
Feed her keto she will loose fat and be less hungry, ensure sunshine and being active
The Orthodox concept of calories. Then the mix of mass and calories...
Even WiKi has the body's composition as roughly 60/30/10 protein/fat/cards by mass. That is it. So, FMD is just to eat this way! Proved many times by many guys
I love salad, but I would feel very hungry on this diet. In fact, it would make me hungrier than fasting. With fasting, hunger ebbs and flows. Fasting also allows your body to rest. This diet might work for others, but it would not work well for me at all. I also don't like diets that focus on numbers rather than looking at the quality and satiety of the meal.
Sten is someone I used to watch years ago when I started a ketogenic diet. However, for the past 5+ years I have been carnivore and no longer watch his channel. I like the guy. He lives in the Atlanta area. I think he practices in Cumming Georgia, but as a carnivore his dietary advice doesn’t fit my lifestyle. By the way, I am 79 years old and on no meds.☸️❤️🙏
I'd rather just do a 5 day fast. I've done 3 day fasts with coffee, stevia, and water enhancers but I've been the same weight for like 3 years + and - 20lbs in both directions.
Other than my long dead fat cells from 16 years ago, that need to be recycled what i really really need is 5 days to see if it would rebuild my ankles. Supposedly 4 day fast can get rid of tendon pain as the body is supposedly trying to fix everything that might be keeping you from hunting well.
It's worth a shot for me. Alternative is just dealing with pain.
Eat the same time, once a day and that gives you 24 hours fasting, but make sure you drink a lot of water as you wish, add some lemon 🍋 in your water.
I think this is an attempt to recreate an affordable ad hoc version of the “fasting mimicking diet” of Dr. Valter Longo, an Italian cell biologist and professor at UC Davis’s School of Gerontology , who researched ‘the role fasting and nutrient response genes on cellular protection, aging and diseases.’*
His facility now markets a prepackaged five-day fast, but it is pricey.
In one interview, Dr. Longo remarked that fasting allowed patient response using half the normal dose of chemotherapy agents during cancer treatment. He advocates five-day fasting, and developed the “fat mimicking diet” to achieve better patient compliance. At least, that’s how I remember his interview.
If you’re looking for studies on autophagy,
his research might provide some of those answers.🤷🏼♀️
*(from Wikipedia bio)
Some are doing protein-sparing days, which has lean protein and less fat and carbs. Low mass days/calories that helps to maintain muscle mass.
Excellent video Dr. Westman! An extremely over-complicated dietary strategy from Dr. Ekberg that would lead to muscle loss. I much prefer the strategy of eating meat & eggs aiming for at least 2g protein per kg (0.9g/lb) of _ideal_ body mass and forget all those useless vegetables. Simple and I am getting the results I want (fat loss) while feeling satiated and amazing practicing OMAD. Some might call this a "protein-sparing modified fast" (PSMF).
2g of protein per lb of body mass sounds like overkill. Usually 35-50g of protein in a 30 minute period is sufficient for muscle protein synthesis for 2 hours. Most of the science seems to point to diminishing returns after the upper range of that.
100-200 grams should be sufficient for most people between 4"0' and 6"0'
Thank you, Dr Westman.
Sounds what i ate as a vegan and it gave me the worst health
Just either eat or don’t
Starving is horrible for body
Fasting is healing
Eating is nuturing
New subscriber. I agree with you, Doc. Just eat smart and exercise, cur out stress, limit Alcohol intake, cut out all the process foods, sugars, sodas, cakes, (rare occasionally love one birthday etc if you choose not a must) low carb if necessary (working out at gym then decide how much is needed to stay active plus you need your protein you can monitor that too. You can fast as I am now its my 2 day water fast im going 3 full days.. it was not to lose weight but just a maintenance and other/spiritual connection. Just enjoy life with balance.
But eating only when hungry is not the best gauge because the body can send false hunger signals when metabolism or hormones are off balance.
Sorry, love Dr. Ekberg but all these numbers, percentages, grams, calories and on and on…..crazy! WAY too much work to simply not eat for a time period! If you’re wanting to fast then FAST - water, black coffee, tea only.
@@VisorGirl Calculators & scales & shit? Yeah, screw that absolutely! I eat once or twice a day & fill up at dinner time. 2 slices of sharpish tasty cheese in the morning & that's it!.
Yep. This is a life time journey, not a quick fix. Consistency is key. To achieve that it has to be simple. I’m with Doctor Ekberg all the way.
Yes keeping it simple thank you
Kit for $200?!?! Hell no!!! I would do 200 on meats and eggs though.
This diet was developed by a doctor in California for cancer patients on chemo.
I did a 5-day fast - _twice❗️_ I still can't believe it ... 😳
How you did it? It's difficult for me bc I work with food.
Did you stay home during those days?
After so many years of keto I hardly ever get actually "hungry". Some days I have to force myself to eat. I think I will start eating in the evening because that is a meal that people often share together and is a time to commune. I do love fresh organic veggies so I hadn't have a desire or actual need to go carnivore. I tend to be naturally thin but when I think back to my youth, I remember that I used to forget to eat a lot and I lived in NYC so I was naturally active - walking a lot - even going several blocks to enter the subways - by going up and down lots of stairs and walking really fast… lol
The issue with autophagy is that our body is already recycling cells that aren't up to scratch anyway. Sure it will do it sooner to cells that could still work some time and like Dr. Westman said, when you fast too long(how long is hard to say but at least over 3 days I'd say) it is likely the body will go after muscle mass eventually. The other issue with fasting is electrolytes, we need sodium, potassium and magnesium as well as some calcium to work well, add that if you're really fasting, it will likely not be needed with that fasting mimicking diet, maybe sodium will be a bit low with those foods, so salt it.