I love Dr. Fung! His videos started me on my journey two years ago through fasting to get rid of snacking. I then continued onto to a Keto diet, then onto Carnivore. Eleven months into Carnivore I am continuing to fast 16 to 18 hours every day. I now am weighing what I did in high school (at age 63). I feel like I have my life back. If it wasn’t for Dr. Fung and all the Keto and Carnivore influencers out there, I have doubts I would be where I am today. It’s never too late to start taking control of your health. Thank you for interviewing Dr. Fung!
I don't follow influencers. The word makes me almost cringe. If by that you mean knowledgeable people like Dr Jason Fung, Dr Anthony Chaffee, then we're talking about health care professionals not influencers.
They all influence me whether they have MD behind their name or not. Even Dr. Berry refers to his fellow colleagues as influencers. Kerry from Homestead How does not have a health degree but he definitely influences me. There is no disrespect behind how I worded my comment.
Dr, fung thank you so much. I was a pre diabetic and now my morning sugar level is normal , within 70 and 90 every morning over a year now. And also through your teaching, i did advice my two friends who are diabetic and they are all free from diabetes no more insulin shots. We all appreciate u so much. Is our prayer that u stay long on earth to help more people.
I feel fantastic when fasting. There are times I keep on fasting because I am not hungry when my eating window opens. My energy stays at a higher level. Ive always believed we dont need to be eating all day and dont need 3 meals a day. Its too much food.
Mhm. In America, it's conditioned to incorporate food in almost every aspect of daily life. When in fact, food isn't needed all day. A day or two without eating, your body will be fine lol especially if that body consumes fat.
I experienced this today. I ate my last meal between 4 5 PM. I walked 8 miles before the sun came up. Played pickleball from 9 to eleven thirty. After I showered. I just wasn't hungry. Forgot I drank a small Gatorade at PB. Ordered unsweetened electrolyte powder tomorrow. But I didn't eat until 2. Ate dinner at 5. I'll be good until tomorrow afternoon. I do no set times. I eat when I'm hungry. But in a 4 5 hour window. It just works out that way.
Only thing that has worked for me too. 62 yo female who has been doing daily intermittent fasting with no carb/Carnivore for 9 months. Went from 185 to 143. Feeling great. Dr. Ken Berry and Dr Jason Fung are both a wealth of information on this topic.
Hopefully not all dietitians. The nutrition courses I've taken nearly all have a plant based bias but some people can think for themselves and don't worship their degree.
Watching these two talk and geeking out about a topic they know very well brings a smile to my face. It's kind of like when Tony Stark and Bruce Banner talk about science. Their passion is infectious and you can listen to them for hours.
I fasted for two weeks and had blood work done at the end of the second week. My Glucose went from 115 to 80. My triglycerides dropped over 100 to ~162; however, my cholesterol shot through the roof and now my doctor's nurse, who I have never spoken to, recommended a prescription for statins based this single situation. I'm slated for another test in a few months, but no way am I going on statins when the non-fasting test done less than a month earlier (higher triglycerides, higher glucose since I ate protein 3 hours before the test, much lower total chol + LDL and higher HDL) less than a month prior. I think the problem is doctors these days don't really know how the body works, don't have the latest study data in their purview, and don't know their individual patient's situations. They just look at numbers and make decisions based on the data in front of them without contextual awareness.
Dr. Ken Berry says if you’re getting a blood test, to only fast for 12-14 hours beforehand, so don’t do an extended fast, because it can mess with all sorts of numbers. And you’re right about doctors not knowing how the body works or the big picture. First off, Dr. Berry talks about LDL in lower carb/keto/carnivore people where 1/3 decreases, 1/3 stays the same, and 1/3 increases. I’ve also heard Drs (maybe Ovadia or Bikman) talk about how statins are useless, except for maybe people who have already had a heart attack, and research is saying that higher cholesterol is protective, especially as one gets older. Not to mention, what is high is determined by mostly unhealthy people eating a SAD, so that could very well differ quite a bit in those eating lower carb. Also, I forget who said it, but I remember one doc saying statins address the wrong part of cholesterol if you’re trying to prevent heart attacks, and that the drug companies manipulated the numbers to make it seems as if they’re more effective than they are.
If someone has been fasting, or is LC/keto/carnivore, then they are in fat-burning mode. What the lab measures for cholesterol is actually lipoprotein nutrient transporters that also contain cholesterol. When in fat-burning mode, fat is packaged into LDL by the liver as a fuel source for your cells. So it's completely normal that in fat-burning mode LDL production goes high. If you want to get a lower measurement, just go out of fat-burning mode before the next test by eating a couple of high-carb meals the day before. Your body will switch to carb-burning mode so the liver will reduce LDL production and your doctor will be happy with the resultant lab test.
I'm not a scientist, but it seems to make sense that your cholesterol/fats went up while fasting. If you are bringing fat out of the cells for energy, which happens while you are while fasting, is it surprising that there is more cholesterol being shuttled about?
I tell my kids I was in high school sports last two years of the 70s and first two years of 80s, and we went to track practice without a snack! 😱we didn’t have water bottles. We had a fountain. Then I went home after two hours and I didn’t eat then either!😨We waited for my dad to get home from work before eating dinner. Nobody died! Say it isn’t so!!! When my kids were in soccer and baseball, I hated that I was expected to bring a sweet snack and sugary drinks for after practice.
Yes! This is it. I did regional gymnastics and would train after school. No water bottles. Snacks? What on earth was that? We had a sandwich or 2 for school and that was it. Then dinner was at 7 or 8 pm. My teenagers are grown now, but the constant need to stuff their faces really irked me.
It amazes me that we live like that back then and we survive !! When I look around me now, I just see people chewing constantly.I am feeling claustrophobic . What worries me most is the children ----some struggle to walk.I want to weep.What is going to happen to them when they are adults.Many households don't have regular meal times anymore. Everybody just grab food and snacks.No control from parents side what the children is eating, because they eat the same way.
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I am a Plastic Surgeon from Philippines. Patients have a hard time believing me when I say LC diet because of my specialty. I started embracing LC since 2018
@@DebraRN1195 Always. If she does not give up I say wait till your glucose start going up and your waistline start widening more. Either way she has to change her wardrobe. Either way she spenda more. In the Philippines rice is now expensive and one can save by not buying rice.
Fasting and the Carnivore diet has helped me tremendously! ***Update*** Went to my doctor. I'm down 25 pounds. I told her about how I fast a couple of times a week. She was like, "Starving yourself isn't the answer...." blah, blah, blah. Her advice went in one ear and out the other. Fasting works for me!!!!
@@Merknilash100% Some don’t have any common sense at all. For too long people have put Dr’s up on a pedestal and saw them as Gods. I stay far away from these indoctrinated Big Pharma pill pushers.
What a brilliant, informative and fun conversation between two shining intellects. Thank you so much for all both of you provide for free. It is highly appreciated.
I started intermittent fasting 133 days ago after viewing several videos of Dr Fung. I have dropped from 196 lbs to 169lbs. My triglycerides went down from 370 to 80. My fasting blood sugar dropped from 112 to 98. My A1C dropped from 6.2 to 5.7. I have been doing a 16:8 IF regiment. I made subtle changes in terms of what I am eating such as using Stevia Select vs Splenda and using Prymal coffee creamer vs Coffeemate creamer. Those changes in the morning for coffee has decreased my insulin response I believe. I am 5’5” and am a busy physical therapist. I feel so much better and think I stopped the progression of becoming a type 2 diabetic. I can not thank Dr Fung enough for helping me understand how and why IF works. I am now empowered to change my health and well being and hopefully can be a motivator for my patients I work with.
You two are absolutely fabulous doctors. Hope you've considered teaching at medical schools. Thank you so much for putting this information on UA-cam making it available for us who feel a little lost after visiting the doctor's office.
Considering how much bad information I’ve gotten from doctors. I am surprised that you’re surprised that we don’t trust doctors like we used to. or instance, just eat less go on the American diabetes diet and you lose weight it’s perfectly safe I’m glad to hear that you are more educated and understand that it is not perfectly safe.
I started my health endeavor with Dr. Jason Fung and reading his books. I use a combination of IF/TRE (16/8) and LC. As a former T2D, this works for me. I don’t eat highly processed foods anymore.
I've gone low carb high fats + fasting almost everyday since 2020. Hba1c dropped from 12+ to 5+, triglyceride down to half & HDL up. Feel great! Thanks to these two doctors!!
Excellent video series- extremely informative. Lately I’ve been fasting for 18-20 hours a day before engaging in a low to no carb meal. I feel better than ever! Don’t knock it until you’ve tried it.
I wish everyone could listen and comprehend this information. Thanks for the interview, and both of your continued work and support in this very important area.
I always look at obesity as a symptom of chronic hyperinsulinemia, just as CV disease, T2D, Alzheimer's, NAFLD, many cancers, etc. are symptoms of hyperinsulinemia. Obesity is NOT the disease. It's just another symptom albeit a very visible one.
Disagree. Check out Ben Bikman. Many obese are not insulin resistant & many thin folks are. Depends on your fat storage system & whether or not fat cells expand or proliferate. If they proliferate, you can stay relatively healthy.
Obesity has more to do with fashion than it does with ones health. A body builder is technically obese. But even when you're talking about body fat it doesn't tell you much about a person's health. Unless you specify where the fat is.
@@rawmilkmikeThat depends upon the definition of obesity that you look at. Obesity is having too much body fat, which is different than being overweight or having a high BMI. The BMI and body weight charts fail in that they don’t take into consideration the body composition and should ever only be used as a screening technique. Your eyes can easily tell you the rest of the story.
@cherylbouschor7641 Very few doctors are good at spotting illness simply by looking at someone. For the lay person, it's even more difficult. Most people will assume someone is unhealthy just because they look fat. Doctors are often guilty of this.
The word in English is break fast. Breakfast, break fast. It's intended to mean breaking your fast it doesn't matter when we eat it. Our brake fast meal can be at 2:00 p.m. or at 6:00 p.m.. It is primarily the cereal manufacturers who are responsible for the idea that breakfast is the most important meal of the day.
Well I'm not sure about that. Farmer, for example, left early in the morning & didn't eat anything but a lite supper when they returned home late st night. So breakfast was the most important. IDK if factory workers were given lunch breaks either before the advent of labor laws in the 1930s
@@mariad1151farmers ate some breakfast and had a HEARTY dinner at noon Then supper later at 5ish They ate ALOT and burned thru it Even a factory worker wasn’t using near the energy amounts that farmers and other laborers were
In Estonia, the word for breakfast means literally "morning food". Historically, the heaviest meal here has always been at around noon and the lightest in the evening, when farmers came back from the fields. This started changing because of urbanisation during the 20th century. Fun fact from our part of the world: one was never supposed to go outside before eating a little something as it was believed that it brings diseases, death and misfortune if you hear birdsong with an empty stomach. This was because the migrating birds were believed to spend the winter in the underworld.
Doctor Jason Fung you are the best!!!! I eat from all the time to one meal a day today am happy and healthy! Dr. Fung I thank you for saving my life ❤️❤️❤️
I have been following and reading everything from Dr Fung since 2013. I’ve been fasting at least 18:6 since 2013. In the beginning I was about 15# overweight and had an A1C of 6.0. I initially lost the weight by doing OMAD and lowered my A1C to 5.6. I am also a menopausal woman at 64 now so was going through the change back then. Fasting has become a lifestyle for me but my A1C has crept back up to 6.2 without the weight gain. I’m almost too thin now and am having difficulty lowering the glucose without losing too much weight. I exercise 30m a day. Low carb is really difficult. I’m stressing myself out trying to feed my family and lower my carbs at the same time. Can you give me any advice? If I fast until 1:00 each day and stops eating at 6:00 how low carb do I have to go? I am wearing a CGM right now and if I eat a high carb it will spike and stay there for a few hours so I know that I am not very insulin sensitive. Everyone is so focused on the weight loss aspect and I am here in the minority and can’t find any answers.
Thanks Dr. Westman for challenging Dr. Fung on this issue. I understood what you were trying to do, and I read his whole book The obesity code, because I'm dealing with I believe hyperinsolemia and excessively overweight. I didn't have an issue with my sugar, but blood pressure was the issue, and a lot of inflammation, and water retention. So I knew something was wrong, I do think the carb count is still important to be mindful of, along with intermittent fasting so to speak, because it does count what you eat during the times you are feasting, and I get fasting is good to keep your insulin down, but when it's raised, what you're eating is super important.
I first saw dr Jason Fung in 2018 when I started to fast. I was basically looking on any information how to do it, how long and how to break longer fasts. I follow him and bought his book The Cancer Code. I started carnivore back then because eggs are best foods to break longer fasts safely, recently I found Dr Westman and love his approach and professionalism and also the fact that he lives in North Carolina. My daughter bought small property in NC and we love it!
God bless these two doctors! big pharma are certainly not happy with having people that teach us to cure any disease through the power of our body healing itself with the way we eat ❤ God bless!
Oh my goodness, docs who speak nuance! Since I'm familiar with you both I already knew this and credit both of you for over 5 years of eating keto, now carnivore, and fasting. Thank you for all you do.
Since I turned 40, fasting (IF) every day the way I used to doesn't work for me anymore. I now eat fast according to my cycle, and it's been so beneficial. I eat way more healthy fats, and I eat healthy carbs on certain days, too.
I’ve been looking into fasting and trying out OMAD for a while. I have an inbody scale so I’m interested is seeing what the results will be over the next few weeks. I’m near Toronto and love Jason Fung. The early Christians/Jews fasted 2 days per week from sundown to sundown the next day. Isaish 58:8 says our health will quickly be restored with fasting
Interesting Is it dry fasting? Because it is very similar to the Islamic fast, I am fasting our Islamic fast on monday and thursday from sundown to sunset,a dry fast of course we have two meals one at sunset and the other we can skip it if we want (before sundown) and I am getting good results my numbers are becoming more normal.
@rozagalaway3278 Christian here who follows Christ. Our fasts are complete/dry fasts sunset to sunset I generally fast twice a week. When I was dry fasting for surgery, when it was put back I was told that I could have some black coffee the doctor was very surprised when I told him that I was perfectly okay with continuing the dry fast because I do so a minimum of once per week, though usually twice.
Nice to see you again Amy. I signed up for the wait list. I think I could use support to stick to keto. Been straying with sweets and starches. And sure there are things in my life I'd like to change or achieve but have not been successful changing them yet. So don't think I am putting health as my focus to avoid them since health is important too. Just frustrated on many levels and sugar and starch are easy to get and a quick short term fix.
Being from South Africa, the prosecution of Tim Noakes set us back! I am so happy for Dr Fung that can explain the science behind it and we can decide for ourselves. Only now that I am older, actually in need of something that works and appreciate the science behind it. I can see that Prof Noakes was right all the time and see the Doctor who he learned from.
Im currently on day 29 of a 40 day water fast. I have never felt better. Edit: I am likely going to extend my fast beyond 40 days but as of yet I haven't decided for how long.
Great biological information. However, he misses the addiction aspect. Food addiction is linked to a dopamine link to the process of eating. The addiction bypasses the biological switches such as ghrelin and leptin. Food addiction is associated with the experience. The taste, texture, and emotional links to food that soothes negative emotions such as depression, loneliness, etc.
I useally fast only eating 2mad. But right now Im with Bronchitis and have to eat to take the meds. Im going to go to once a day as soon as Im well. Thank you for these discussions, they are invaluable! I dont eat many carbs, maybe just 5 a day when I do.
If eating breakfast makes you want to eat all day than your eating the wrong foods for breakfast. I eat a big breakfast, egg and meat, cheese omelette with avocado, kimchi and olives. And I'm not hungry until dinner at 3 or 4 than I'm full untill next day.
People will definitely think you are nuts but it's typically folks that don't want to address their obesity and like eating garbage. Facts. Keep on and keep the blinders on and don't even talk to people about what you are doing. We have to do what works for us as individuals.
These interviews are great, but if I could just have one critique it would be to stop interrupting the interviewee when they're talking. Let them finish their thought before jumping in. Just my unsolicited 2 cents worth.
Thank you for this info. I, currently on a 3 day fast. All the doctors, nutritionist,dieticians always recommended carbs on my eating plans even though I told them that carbs increases my glucose levels. When I finally through process of elimination reduced carbs to 0-7g my diabetes levels are now normal🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽 I have lipedema and fibromyalgia , high cholesterol and would like to lose about 30kg. Still cannot keep weight off even tho I eat between 1500-2000 calories , I’m on protein and fat only. No veg nd no fruit. Any advise from anyone with similar issues that can help would be appreciated.
I’ve been fasting for 5 months now I’ve lost 3 st in weight and feel amazing, lately my glucose levels have been sky high even after fasting for 18 hours. I don’t eat bread, potatoes,cereal, pasta or rice. Anything with flour, what’s going on with my body?
Feeling inspired...... besides gluten and other bad carbs, bad processed oils and food, what else can I avoid to improve health and well being, constitution, longevity, immunity, mental and brain health?
how great that you two are sharing and informing ….hopefully RFK jr is aware of your work…the data that supports both of your approaches would save our government lots of $$$ thanks😊
I generally fast intermittently on my carnivore diet (a large steak & eggs lunch generally) - Carnivore Diet leaders recommend to eat enough meat until you're satiated - These habits will (at least) [1] Lead you towards your optimised weight (from either direction); & [2] Improve your general metabolism & microbiome. At 58, I have lost ~26kg (from 130 to 104) with daily/moderate exercise in 4 months, on this diet. I had also been fasting whole days twice per week (Mon+Fri), but recently I've changed to (Thu+Fri) - A ~70hour fast! Perhaps this measure is too severe for this podcast, but reason is to experience autophagy benefits, which is supposed to kick in after 48 hours. 🐄
Dr. Fung is the best. Carnivore + small fruits/week + 14h~18h fasting/day and zero carbs/sugar, zero vegetables really work for me. I think the fasting is the balancing effect since human body should rest for sometimes.
Do you have any advice for Typ 1 diabetics? I obviously give myself less insulin but seem to bloat after about sixteen hours, and when I finally eat again, I need to inject a lot more insulin to digest the same amount of food. Any advice would be much appreciated. Thanks for your great video knowledge that sounds very logical
I am concerned about fasting times in the elderly after hearing Dr. Donald Layman on with Dr. Gabrielle Lyon. He believes that the elderly (and I am 71) should not fast for periods longer than 24 hours and eat 4 meals a day because our weight loss may likely include lean muscle mass which will be hard to gain back. I lost weight quickly on keto when I first started 4 years ago but the amount included lean muscle mass which I could not afford to lose and it's taken time and work to regain it. There needs to be more emphasis about what are appropriate fasting periods for the elderly as well as the importance of protein for us rather than just weight loss.
I am not able to fast because I used to starve myself. I would be too hungry if I had to fast. I've lost a lot of weight on carnivore and gotton off one diabetes tablets without fasting. I would encourage elderly people to eat more meat, and go low carb then fast a lot. Or at least they need to be monitored by doctors. You don't want falls, you don't want cracked heads from low blood pressure from fasting.
I'm no doctor but the idea of eating 4 meals a day.... doesn't that, according to this video, mean you are going to keep your insulin levels high? Also, I think at the end of the day the question isn't about fat or protein, it's about eating nutrient dense whole foods and listening to your body.
The elderly generally don't eat enough protein period. TRE is better for them but they might just benefit from more protein and then doing some resistance training. If no resistance training, you lose muscle because your body sees no need for it. If older people eat enough protein amd lift weights rhey can build muscle. A lady at our gym looks fantastic, she is 70 and has the best arma of any woman of any age in there. She does IF too. Use it lose it, but you have to fees it protein.
Well u look pretty good for 71 :) I'm a mere 70. Rapidly achieved my ideal weight on high fat ketovore. Lost fat but not muscle as I maintain some weight training, and know my supplements. Protein powder, creatine monohydrate etc. I'm happy with 16/8 IF which gives you most of the benefits. I'll occasionally do a 24 hour fast if I feel my body needs a reset. These docs give great advice but you have to do what's right for you.
Wow, the diabetes medication and fast food ads were all over this one. Look the other way! Nothing here to see! Too funny!😂 Thanks for the great information!
My doc, also from Toronto, is completely ignorant about reversing T2 diabetes, keto or low carb, and even intermittent fasting. More education is needed for docs on this critical subject. Just prescribing drugs without tackling the underlying disease does not solve the problem. I've been learning from Dr. Fung for 2-3 years now and do OMAD and IF, with great results. I also strength train fasted. This collab was really useful and fun to listen to. Dr Fung recommends max 50g of carbs/day..interesting.
I love Dr. Fung! His videos started me on my journey two years ago through fasting to get rid of snacking. I then continued onto to a Keto diet, then onto Carnivore. Eleven months into Carnivore I am continuing to fast 16 to 18 hours every day. I now am weighing what I did in high school (at age 63). I feel like I have my life back. If it wasn’t for Dr. Fung and all the Keto and Carnivore influencers out there, I have doubts I would be where I am today. It’s never too late to start taking control of your health. Thank you for interviewing Dr. Fung!
I don't follow influencers. The word makes me almost cringe. If by that you mean knowledgeable people like Dr Jason Fung, Dr Anthony Chaffee, then we're talking about health care professionals not influencers.
They all influence me whether they have MD behind their name or not. Even Dr. Berry refers to his fellow colleagues as influencers. Kerry from Homestead How does not have a health degree but he definitely influences me. There is no disrespect behind how I worded my comment.
Influencers influence you to start or continue doing something.
Fasting, Keto and now carnivore works for me and I feel Great👍
Dr, fung thank you so much. I was a pre diabetic and now my morning sugar level is normal , within 70 and 90 every morning over a year now. And also through your teaching, i did advice my two friends who are diabetic and they are all free from diabetes no more insulin shots. We all appreciate u so much. Is our prayer that u stay long on earth to help more people.
There’s still hope for the humanity with pioneering healthcare champions like Dr Eric Westman and Dr Jason Fung.
I like your name on here, lowcarblowdrama
Absolutely
Dr Fang makes so much sense!!! People say you need to eat all the time because they wanted to sell you their processed foods so they can make profit.
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I feel fantastic when fasting. There are times I keep on fasting because I am not hungry when my eating window opens. My energy stays at a higher level. Ive always believed we dont need to be eating all day and dont need 3 meals a day. Its too much food.
Most days, one meal is enough for me.
Mhm. In America, it's conditioned to incorporate food in almost every aspect of daily life. When in fact, food isn't needed all day. A day or two without eating, your body will be fine lol especially if that body consumes fat.
@@waedjradi I totally agree!
I experienced this today. I ate my last meal between 4 5 PM. I walked 8 miles before the sun came up. Played pickleball from 9 to eleven thirty. After I showered. I just wasn't hungry. Forgot I drank a small Gatorade at PB. Ordered unsweetened electrolyte powder tomorrow. But I didn't eat until 2. Ate dinner at 5. I'll be good until tomorrow afternoon. I do no set times. I eat when I'm hungry. But in a 4 5 hour window. It just works out that way.
God Bless Dr. Jason Fung! He has changed the lives of so many people. Actually he has saved the lives of so many people! 🙏🙏
A low carb diet & fasting is what worked for me. I found Dr. Fung when I looked up Fasting for Diabetics.
worked for me too
Only thing that has worked for me too. 62 yo female who has been doing daily intermittent fasting with no carb/Carnivore for 9 months. Went from 185 to 143. Feeling great. Dr. Ken Berry and Dr Jason Fung are both a wealth of information on this topic.
Same here , Dr Fung teaching impacted my health in a very positive outcome
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☺️I'm glad to see people getting results when lowering their calorie intake.
My 2 favorite doctors in this subject matter/field, both very scientifically-based and pioneers in their respective specialties!
Dieticians told everyone they had to eat 6 times a day. It was dieticians who went after Tim Noakes and Gary Fettke
Hopefully not all dietitians. The nutrition courses I've taken nearly all have a plant based bias but some people can think for themselves and don't worship their degree.
I joined a "health talk", by a certified dietician in March. She said exactly the same thing; eat 6 times a day😅
@jaiusman7394 yes, still spouting the same, discredited rubbish. So very disappointing
Their logic is it keeps glucose levels constant = 6 meals/day ha ha ha...
Watching these two talk and geeking out about a topic they know very well brings a smile to my face. It's kind of like when Tony Stark and Bruce Banner talk about science.
Their passion is infectious and you can listen to them for hours.
I fasted for two weeks and had blood work done at the end of the second week. My Glucose went from 115 to 80. My triglycerides dropped over 100 to ~162; however, my cholesterol shot through the roof and now my doctor's nurse, who I have never spoken to, recommended a prescription for statins based this single situation. I'm slated for another test in a few months, but no way am I going on statins when the non-fasting test done less than a month earlier (higher triglycerides, higher glucose since I ate protein 3 hours before the test, much lower total chol + LDL and higher HDL) less than a month prior. I think the problem is doctors these days don't really know how the body works, don't have the latest study data in their purview, and don't know their individual patient's situations. They just look at numbers and make decisions based on the data in front of them without contextual awareness.
Good point. They don't get their averages from folks who have fasted for two weeks, that's for sure. Wonder where those averages do come from....
Dr. Ken Berry says if you’re getting a blood test, to only fast for 12-14 hours beforehand, so don’t do an extended fast, because it can mess with all sorts of numbers.
And you’re right about doctors not knowing how the body works or the big picture. First off, Dr. Berry talks about LDL in lower carb/keto/carnivore people where 1/3 decreases, 1/3 stays the same, and 1/3 increases. I’ve also heard Drs (maybe Ovadia or Bikman) talk about how statins are useless, except for maybe people who have already had a heart attack, and research is saying that higher cholesterol is protective, especially as one gets older. Not to mention, what is high is determined by mostly unhealthy people eating a SAD, so that could very well differ quite a bit in those eating lower carb. Also, I forget who said it, but I remember one doc saying statins address the wrong part of cholesterol if you’re trying to prevent heart attacks, and that the drug companies manipulated the numbers to make it seems as if they’re more effective than they are.
If someone has been fasting, or is LC/keto/carnivore, then they are in fat-burning mode. What the lab measures for cholesterol is actually lipoprotein nutrient transporters that also contain cholesterol. When in fat-burning mode, fat is packaged into LDL by the liver as a fuel source for your cells. So it's completely normal that in fat-burning mode LDL production goes high. If you want to get a lower measurement, just go out of fat-burning mode before the next test by eating a couple of high-carb meals the day before. Your body will switch to carb-burning mode so the liver will reduce LDL production and your doctor will be happy with the resultant lab test.
I'm not a scientist, but it seems to make sense that your cholesterol/fats went up while fasting. If you are bringing fat out of the cells for energy, which happens while you are while fasting, is it surprising that there is more cholesterol being shuttled about?
Statins KILL
I tell my kids I was in high school sports last two years of the 70s and first two years of 80s, and we went to track practice without a snack! 😱we didn’t have water bottles. We had a fountain. Then I went home after two hours and I didn’t eat then either!😨We waited for my dad to get home from work before eating dinner. Nobody died! Say it isn’t so!!! When my kids were in soccer and baseball, I hated that I was expected to bring a sweet snack and sugary drinks for after practice.
Amazing isn’t it - the food industry has a lot answer for
Yes! This is it.
I did regional gymnastics and would train after school. No water bottles. Snacks? What on earth was that? We had a sandwich or 2 for school and that was it. Then dinner was at 7 or 8 pm.
My teenagers are grown now, but the constant need to stuff their faces really irked me.
We need to revert back to the good old days ..we didn't eat or snack whenever and no drinking all day long
It amazes me that we live like that back then and we survive !! When I look around me now, I just see people chewing constantly.I am feeling claustrophobic . What worries me most is the children ----some struggle to walk.I want to weep.What is going to happen to them when they are adults.Many households don't have regular meal times anymore. Everybody just grab food and snacks.No control from parents side what the children is eating, because they eat the same way.
My two favorite doctors!
Remember the Little House on the Prairie books? They were always doing chores before breakfast.
@@cynthiagilbreth1352 I trust your day is going well and I trust you enjoy watching my series? Thank you so much for your prayers and support throughout my career hope you don’t mind where are you from?
I agree! They are the best.
@@cynthiagilbreth1352 where are you from??
@@RobertMarkWahlberg
Colorado
I am a Plastic Surgeon from Philippines. Patients have a hard time believing me when I say LC diet because of my specialty. I started embracing LC since 2018
Where are you from??
Do you tell them they will have to give up their RICE? I had a Philippina coworker say she’d rather die than give up her rice. 😳
@@DebraRN1195 Always. If she does not give up I say wait till your glucose start going up and your waistline start widening more. Either way she has to change her wardrobe. Either way she spenda more. In the Philippines rice is now expensive and one can save by not buying rice.
@@DebraRN1195 once I posted in FB LIPOSUCTION IS NOT THE SOLUTION TO OBESITY
@@RobertMarkWahlberg Manila Plilippines
Fasting and the Carnivore diet has helped me tremendously!
***Update***
Went to my doctor. I'm down 25 pounds. I told her about how I fast a couple of times a week. She was like, "Starving yourself isn't the answer...." blah, blah, blah.
Her advice went in one ear and out the other.
Fasting works for me!!!!
It’s so weird how people always frame fasting as starving yourself. I need to lose weight. Clearly I’m not starving. 😂
Some doctors are idiots
They had they perseverance to get through med school and that’s the end of their qualifications
@@Merknilash100%
Some don’t have any common sense at all. For too long people have put Dr’s up on a pedestal and saw them as Gods. I stay far away from these indoctrinated Big Pharma pill pushers.
@@MerknilashTHIS. And their arrogance. Oh my god.
@Gen😂😂❤RN
Gave dr Fung’s diet book to two doctors. Both really liked it! Can only inspire a few st a time.
Awesome Doctor Fung and Doctor Westman ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
Hello my dear ❤ how are you feeling today hope you’re having a great day? Are you one of my best fan ?
I remember how good I felt when I fasted before a colonoscopy. It was an eye-opener for me and I use it often now, just to feel better.
I felt like absolute crap from a colonoscopy.
@@AnnabellaRedwoodthat’s because you shit too many nutrients out after they give you the diarrhea juice
What a brilliant, informative and fun conversation between two shining intellects. Thank you so much for all both of you provide for free. It is highly appreciated.
I started intermittent fasting 133 days ago after viewing several videos of Dr Fung. I have dropped from 196 lbs to 169lbs. My triglycerides went down from 370 to 80. My fasting blood sugar dropped from 112 to 98. My A1C dropped from 6.2 to 5.7. I have been doing a 16:8 IF regiment. I made subtle changes in terms of what I am eating such as using Stevia Select vs Splenda and using Prymal coffee creamer vs Coffeemate creamer. Those changes in the morning for coffee has decreased my insulin response I believe. I am 5’5” and am a busy physical therapist. I feel so much better and think I stopped the progression of becoming a type 2 diabetic. I can not thank Dr Fung enough for helping me understand how and why IF works. I am now empowered to change my health and well being and hopefully can be a motivator for my patients I work with.
You two are absolutely fabulous doctors. Hope you've considered teaching at medical schools. Thank you so much for putting this information on UA-cam making it available for us who feel a little lost after visiting the doctor's office.
I think they both do. Dr Westman is at Duke University in North Carolina. Not sure if Dr Fung does or not.
Love you dr Jason fung.you r saving millions of lives
Considering how much bad information I’ve gotten from doctors. I am surprised that you’re surprised that we don’t trust doctors like we used to. or instance, just eat less go on the American diabetes diet and you lose weight it’s perfectly safe I’m glad to hear that you are more educated and understand that it is not perfectly safe.
I started my health endeavor with Dr. Jason Fung and reading his books. I use a combination of IF/TRE (16/8) and LC. As a former T2D, this works for me. I don’t eat highly processed foods anymore.
I'm so happy to see these two together!! I love both of them
I've gone low carb high fats + fasting almost everyday since 2020. Hba1c dropped from 12+ to 5+, triglyceride down to half & HDL up. Feel great!
Thanks to these two doctors!!
Thanks!
Dr. Westman is such an amazing interviewer. He allows the interviewee speak😊
Dr. Fung's books are a live saver. My dietician recommended his videos and books. Glad she did.
Excellent video series- extremely informative. Lately I’ve been fasting for 18-20 hours a day before engaging in a low to no carb meal. I feel better than ever! Don’t knock it until you’ve tried it.
I wish everyone could listen and comprehend this information. Thanks for the interview, and both of your continued work and support in this very important area.
Thank you gentlemen for all the work you both have done to help people's health and understanding.
Thank you, Dr. Westman and Dr. Fung. I have learned so much from your YT videos.
Hello
Getting these 2 doctors together is brilliant! Well done!😎👍
I have the Dr Fung fasting book - it's incredibly interesting and useful.
New to fasting but love it!
I always look at obesity as a symptom of chronic hyperinsulinemia, just as CV disease, T2D, Alzheimer's, NAFLD, many cancers, etc. are symptoms of hyperinsulinemia. Obesity is NOT the disease. It's just another symptom albeit a very visible one.
Disagree. Check out Ben Bikman. Many obese are not insulin resistant & many thin folks are. Depends on your fat storage system & whether or not fat cells expand or proliferate. If they proliferate, you can stay relatively healthy.
Obesity has more to do with fashion than it does with ones health. A body builder is technically obese. But even when you're talking about body fat it doesn't tell you much about a person's health. Unless you specify where the fat is.
@@rawmilkmike Yup BMI should not be used because it is basically useless....fat % is far more useful.
@@rawmilkmikeThat depends upon the definition of obesity that you look at. Obesity is having too much body fat, which is different than being overweight or having a high BMI. The BMI and body weight charts fail in that they don’t take into consideration the body composition and should ever only be used as a screening technique. Your eyes can easily tell you the rest of the story.
@cherylbouschor7641 Very few doctors are good at spotting illness simply by looking at someone. For the lay person, it's even more difficult. Most people will assume someone is unhealthy just because they look fat. Doctors are often guilty of this.
Fun fact:
In Spanish, the word for breakfast is ‘desayuno’, which is composed of des = “un” and ayuno = “fast”. So breakfast is an “un-fast”.
The word in English is break fast. Breakfast, break fast. It's intended to mean breaking your fast it doesn't matter when we eat it. Our brake fast meal can be at 2:00 p.m. or at 6:00 p.m.. It is primarily the cereal manufacturers who are responsible for the idea that breakfast is the most important meal of the day.
Well I'm not sure about that. Farmer, for example, left early in the morning & didn't eat anything but a lite supper when they returned home late st night. So breakfast was the most important. IDK if factory workers were given lunch breaks either before the advent of labor laws in the 1930s
@@mariad1151farmers ate some breakfast and had a HEARTY dinner at noon
Then supper later at 5ish
They ate ALOT and burned thru it
Even a factory worker wasn’t using near the energy amounts that farmers and other laborers were
@@YeshuaKingMessiah I don't know about that...3 meals
In Estonia, the word for breakfast means literally "morning food". Historically, the heaviest meal here has always been at around noon and the lightest in the evening, when farmers came back from the fields. This started changing because of urbanisation during the 20th century. Fun fact from our part of the world: one was never supposed to go outside before eating a little something as it was believed that it brings diseases, death and misfortune if you hear birdsong with an empty stomach. This was because the migrating birds were believed to spend the winter in the underworld.
Doc Fung so direct and on point thanks 🎉
Two good doctors leading the way.
Doctor Jason Fung you are the best!!!! I eat from all the time to one meal a day today am happy and healthy!
Dr. Fung I thank you for saving my life ❤️❤️❤️
Love Dr. Jason fung. I've learned from him that "if you eat, you gain weight, and if you don't eat, you lose weight.
Dr Westman saved my life! what a great discussion on fasting, please continue further discussions love the two of you 😍
Dr Fung and his book, The Obesity Code, changed my whole way of thinking about food. Thank you!
I have been following and reading everything from Dr Fung since 2013. I’ve been fasting at least 18:6 since 2013. In the beginning I was about 15# overweight and had an A1C of 6.0. I initially lost the weight by doing OMAD and lowered my A1C to 5.6. I am also a menopausal woman at 64 now so was going through the change back then. Fasting has become a lifestyle for me but my A1C has crept back up to 6.2 without the weight gain. I’m almost too thin now and am having difficulty lowering the glucose without losing too much weight. I exercise 30m a day. Low carb is really difficult. I’m stressing myself out trying to feed my family and lower my carbs at the same time. Can you give me any advice? If I fast until 1:00 each day and stops eating at 6:00 how low carb do I have to go? I am wearing a CGM right now and if I eat a high carb it will spike and stay there for a few hours so I know that I am not very insulin sensitive. Everyone is so focused on the weight loss aspect and I am here in the minority and can’t find any answers.
Thanks Dr. Westman for challenging Dr. Fung on this issue. I understood what you were trying to do, and I read his whole book The obesity code, because I'm dealing with I believe hyperinsolemia and excessively overweight. I didn't have an issue with my sugar, but blood pressure was the issue, and a lot of inflammation, and water retention. So I knew something was wrong, I do think the carb count is still important to be mindful of, along with intermittent fasting so to speak, because it does count what you eat during the times you are feasting, and I get fasting is good to keep your insulin down, but when it's raised, what you're eating is super important.
Educational for all!
Great Tutorial!❤
Knowledge is Power!
No health is suffering - costly and no quality life!!
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I first saw dr Jason Fung in 2018 when I started to fast. I was basically looking on any information how to do it, how long and how to break longer fasts. I follow him and bought his book The Cancer Code. I started carnivore back then because eggs are best foods to break longer fasts safely, recently I found Dr Westman and love his approach and professionalism and also the fact that he lives in North Carolina. My daughter bought small property in NC and we love it!
Thank you Dr Fung for your info on fasting, Thank you Dr Westman for your info on ketogetics
♥️♥️♥️Dr. Fung, thank you for this interview Dr.
How did I missed this when it came out!? A phenomenal collaboration!
God bless these two doctors! big pharma are certainly not happy with having people that teach us to cure any disease through the power of our body healing itself with the way we eat ❤ God bless!
Powerful discussions. Love it ❤❤❤❤
Two medical heroes here.
Oh my goodness, docs who speak nuance! Since I'm familiar with you both I already knew this and credit both of you for over 5 years of eating keto, now carnivore, and fasting. Thank you for all you do.
This was a great interview. ❤💜
Wish I had a doctor like either these guys
Great discussion by two of the best!
Since I turned 40, fasting (IF) every day the way I used to doesn't work for me anymore. I now eat fast according to my cycle, and it's been so beneficial. I eat way more healthy fats, and I eat healthy carbs on certain days, too.
The two GOATs together 🙏
You both are in my list of health heroes.
Where are you from?
when I see dr. Jason fung I click, I like and I watch till the end.
Love this interview ..from South-Africa where poor Dr Tim Noakes live
When I fast I have more energy & clarity. Fasting has help me tremendously♥️🌷♥️
I’ve been looking into fasting and trying out OMAD for a while. I have an inbody scale so I’m interested is seeing what the results will be over the next few weeks.
I’m near Toronto and love Jason Fung. The early Christians/Jews fasted 2 days per week from sundown to sundown the next day. Isaish 58:8 says our health will quickly be restored with fasting
Interesting
Is it dry fasting? Because it is very similar to the Islamic fast,
I am fasting our Islamic fast on monday and thursday from sundown to sunset,a dry fast of course we have two meals one at sunset and the other we can skip it if we want (before sundown)
and I am getting good results my numbers are becoming more normal.
@rozagalaway3278 Christian here who follows Christ. Our fasts are complete/dry fasts sunset to sunset I generally fast twice a week.
When I was dry fasting for surgery, when it was put back I was told that I could have some black coffee the doctor was very surprised when I told him that I was perfectly okay with continuing the dry fast because I do so a minimum of once per week, though usually twice.
So interesting and informative by two leading experts, very enjoyable, listened whilst relaxing with my eyes closed. Jo UK 🙂
Great video! 👍🏽
Thank you both!
Nice to see you again Amy. I signed up for the wait list. I think I could use support to stick to keto. Been straying with sweets and starches. And sure there are things in my life I'd like to change or achieve but have not been successful changing them yet. So don't think I am putting health as my focus to avoid them since health is important too. Just frustrated on many levels and sugar and starch are easy to get and a quick short term fix.
Este video es una joya.....dos excelentes doctores. Saludos desde Panamá
Being from South Africa, the prosecution of Tim Noakes set us back! I am so happy for Dr Fung that can explain the science behind it and we can decide for ourselves. Only now that I am older, actually in need of something that works and appreciate the science behind it. I can see that Prof Noakes was right all the time and see the Doctor who he learned from.
I could have done without all the interruptions.
Im currently on day 29 of a 40 day water fast. I have never felt better.
Edit: I am likely going to extend my fast beyond 40 days but as of yet I haven't decided for how long.
curious if you are doing this on your own or are you at a fasting clinic?
@@denisecohn2974 On my own. This is my 4th time around. I was thinking about starting one actually.
Every year, I do an end of year 40 day fast. Good for you!
WOW!
Keep us posted
Yom Kipur is 25h full fast including water and there are few more during the year ...
No water during Yom Kippur
Basically I’m giving a like just for the two of these men having a chat…. 💚💚💚💚💚
❤❤ to Jason Fung & W for caring for people❤️❤️. You can just tell these Drs luv their patients & want to help them. 🥼
Great biological information. However, he misses the addiction aspect. Food addiction is linked to a dopamine link to the process of eating. The addiction bypasses the biological switches such as ghrelin and leptin. Food addiction is associated with the experience. The taste, texture, and emotional links to food that soothes negative emotions such as depression, loneliness, etc.
How about the relevance of CKM s? Measuring ketones could motivate sufficiently long fasting and show that energy is there in the shape of ketones .
I useally fast only eating 2mad. But right now Im with Bronchitis and have to eat to take the meds. Im going to go to once a day as soon as Im well. Thank you for these discussions, they are invaluable! I dont eat many carbs, maybe just 5 a day when I do.
If eating breakfast makes you want to eat all day than your eating the wrong foods for breakfast. I eat a big breakfast, egg and meat, cheese omelette with avocado, kimchi and olives. And I'm not hungry until dinner at 3 or 4 than I'm full untill next day.
How do i fi 31:43 nd a doctor in my area to help me manage my health with this type of doctoring?
Thanks Jason I saw you on a program years ago. Started on keto and lost 60pounds . Now carnivore and never felt better. My friends think I am nuts!❤
Congratulations on you weightloss and all the positive changes
People will definitely think you are nuts but it's typically folks that don't want to address their obesity and like eating garbage. Facts. Keep on and keep the blinders on and don't even talk to people about what you are doing. We have to do what works for us as individuals.
These interviews are great, but if I could just have one critique it would be to stop interrupting the interviewee when they're talking. Let them finish their thought before jumping in. Just my unsolicited 2 cents worth.
So many people do that, they want everyone to know how smart THEY are, vs. letting the guest expert have the floor. Kinda pathetic.
Thank you for this info. I, currently on a 3 day fast. All the doctors, nutritionist,dieticians always recommended carbs on my eating plans even though I told them that carbs increases my glucose levels. When I finally through process of elimination reduced carbs to 0-7g my diabetes levels are now normal🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽
I have lipedema and fibromyalgia , high cholesterol and would like to lose about 30kg. Still cannot keep weight off even tho I eat between 1500-2000 calories , I’m on protein and fat only. No veg nd no fruit. Any advise from anyone with similar issues that can help would be appreciated.
Thank you!
Should I be concerned that my RT3 is “high” (per my doctor) due to fasting?
Whu are you constantly interupting Dr Jason Fung...give the guy a chance to speak
Awesome info video I enjoy my fasting and healthy lifestyle thanks
I’ve been fasting for 5 months now I’ve lost 3 st in weight and feel amazing, lately my glucose levels have been sky high even after fasting for 18 hours. I don’t eat bread, potatoes,cereal, pasta or rice. Anything with flour, what’s going on with my body?
I’m having a hard time getting enough protein in if I only eat once a day. How is it possible?
Feeling inspired...... besides gluten and other bad carbs, bad processed oils and food, what else can I avoid to improve health and well being, constitution, longevity, immunity, mental and brain health?
Strength training 2-3 times per week
Dr Sten Ekberg (here on YT) is all about this as well, brilliant guy, lots of yays & nays there too.
how great that you two are sharing and informing ….hopefully RFK jr is aware of your work…the data that supports both of your approaches would save our government lots of $$$ thanks😊
Dr. Fung, 104lbs, 5.2 workout daily, problem i have is A1c 7.2. should i do the diet you recommended?
I generally fast intermittently on my carnivore diet (a large steak & eggs lunch generally) - Carnivore Diet leaders recommend to eat enough meat until you're satiated - These habits will (at least) [1] Lead you towards your optimised weight (from either direction); & [2] Improve your general metabolism & microbiome. At 58, I have lost ~26kg (from 130 to 104) with daily/moderate exercise in 4 months, on this diet. I had also been fasting whole days twice per week (Mon+Fri), but recently I've changed to (Thu+Fri) - A ~70hour fast! Perhaps this measure is too severe for this podcast, but reason is to experience autophagy benefits, which is supposed to kick in after 48 hours. 🐄
I eat very little red meat and pork. Very high in fat and cholesterol
Dr. Fung is the best. Carnivore + small fruits/week + 14h~18h fasting/day and zero carbs/sugar, zero vegetables really work for me. I think the fasting is the balancing effect since human body should rest for sometimes.
Any research on GKI and reversing Atherosclerosis? CKD, Dementia, etc
Do you have any advice for Typ 1 diabetics? I obviously give myself less insulin but seem to bloat after about sixteen hours, and when I finally eat again, I need to inject a lot more insulin to digest the same amount of food. Any advice would be much appreciated. Thanks for your great video knowledge that sounds very logical
I am concerned about fasting times in the elderly after hearing Dr. Donald Layman on with Dr. Gabrielle Lyon. He believes that the elderly (and I am 71) should not fast for periods longer than 24 hours and eat 4 meals a day because our weight loss may likely include lean muscle mass which will be hard to gain back. I lost weight quickly on keto when I first started 4 years ago but the amount included lean muscle mass which I could not afford to lose and it's taken time and work to regain it.
There needs to be more emphasis about what are appropriate fasting periods for the elderly as well as the importance of protein for us rather than just weight loss.
Well, yes, we need more nuanced information
based on science. I agree with you.
I am not able to fast because I used to starve myself. I would be too hungry if I had to fast. I've lost a lot of weight on carnivore and gotton off one diabetes tablets without fasting. I would encourage elderly people to eat more meat, and go low carb then fast a lot. Or at least they need to be monitored by doctors. You don't want falls, you don't want cracked heads from low blood pressure from fasting.
I'm no doctor but the idea of eating 4 meals a day.... doesn't that, according to this video, mean you are going to keep your insulin levels high? Also, I think at the end of the day the question isn't about fat or protein, it's about eating nutrient dense whole foods and listening to your body.
The elderly generally don't eat enough protein period. TRE is better for them but they might just benefit from more protein and then doing some resistance training. If no resistance training, you lose muscle because your body sees no need for it.
If older people eat enough protein amd lift weights rhey can build muscle. A lady at our gym looks fantastic, she is 70 and has the best arma of any woman of any age in there. She does IF too. Use it lose it, but you have to fees it protein.
Well u look pretty good for 71 :) I'm a mere 70. Rapidly achieved my ideal weight on high fat ketovore. Lost fat but not muscle as I maintain some weight training, and know my supplements. Protein powder, creatine monohydrate etc. I'm happy with 16/8 IF which gives you most of the benefits. I'll occasionally do a 24 hour fast if I feel my body needs a reset. These docs give great advice but you have to do what's right for you.
Wow, the diabetes medication and fast food ads were all over this one. Look the other way! Nothing here to see! Too funny!😂 Thanks for the great information!
Interesting interview. Love to see Jason work with some pro bodybuilders during their bulking phase or pro powerlifters trying to reach 400+ lbs.
My doc, also from Toronto, is completely ignorant about reversing T2 diabetes, keto or low carb, and even intermittent fasting. More education is needed for docs on this critical subject. Just prescribing drugs without tackling the underlying disease does not solve the problem. I've been learning from Dr. Fung for 2-3 years now and do OMAD and IF, with great results. I also strength train fasted. This collab was really useful and fun to listen to. Dr Fung recommends max 50g of carbs/day..interesting.
They prefer subscribing pills
Most mainstream doctors are… indoctrinated -so to speak-to all the wrong stuff and can’t let it go.