Let's Talk About THAT Sonic Dream Team "Controversy"

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  • Опубліковано 30 вер 2024

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  • @GottaBeFrank
    @GottaBeFrank  10 місяців тому +8

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    What are your thoughts on the whole Sonic Dream Team discussion? Let me know!

    • @polyplayer
      @polyplayer 10 місяців тому +1

      Apeck

    • @jarmelatodyssechutminds126
      @jarmelatodyssechutminds126 10 місяців тому

      Sorry already got myself a gaming PC desktop. Room's taken until I need a replacement.

    • @johnpett1955
      @johnpett1955 10 місяців тому

      Not really looking to buy a gaming pc right now, but that discount looks pretty tempting not gonna lie.

    • @jarmelatodyssechutminds126
      @jarmelatodyssechutminds126 10 місяців тому

      @@polyplayer classic grammar error.

    • @polyplayer
      @polyplayer 10 місяців тому

      @@jarmelatodyssechutminds126I meant to say apeck

  • @DannyBenS94
    @DannyBenS94 10 місяців тому +41

    My biggest problem with this game is not really that it's Apple Arcade exclusive (which yeah, I do have a problem with that, it's just not the biggest problem with it), but it's the fact that this is the time Sega decided to have a game like this made. It's something a lot of us have been wanting for years now; multiple playable characters in a 3D Sonic platformer, which we haven't had (in a mainline game at least) since Sonic 06, not counting the 3rd major update for Sonic Frontiers. And after hearing that it's like a mix of Adventure 2 and Mario 64, that made me even more frustrated cause that sounds awesome. Even if I had an Apple device that could play this game perfectly well, it wouldn't be the way I'd want to play it. Now of course the game isn't out yet, it could end up sucking. But still, many, many Sonic fans are mad. Yes, Apple helped fund this game, but unless they had a big influence on the idea of how the game would be, Sega made a huge mistake having this kind of game made for them and not for the platforms 99% of Sonic fans would want to use to play it.

    • @johnpett1955
      @johnpett1955 10 місяців тому +6

      Agreed. All we can do is hope it gets ported to pc and maybe even some consoles after the contract expires instead of getting de-listed and falling into obscurity

    • @DannyBenS94
      @DannyBenS94 10 місяців тому +2

      @johnpett1955 hopefully so! This wouldn't be as frustrating if we had gotten something like this in the past couple of years on console and PC. Like yes, we'd still want Dream Team more avaliable, but we'd be like "well at least we got [game] not too long ago". But instead this is the first game in a very long time to be like that and that's why it stings really bad right now.

    • @johnpett1955
      @johnpett1955 10 місяців тому +1

      @@DannyBenS94 yeah this looks like the closest thing to a Sonic adventure 3 than we've ever seen before. Seeing such a game exclusive to Apple devices sucks.

    • @JuanPablo-su6vw
      @JuanPablo-su6vw 10 місяців тому +1

      Blame Sonic team for sucking at making games

  • @ZW_Zacattack99
    @ZW_Zacattack99 10 місяців тому +21

    I totally understand considering the situation around other titles on Apple Arcade, Apple’s funding and exclusivity deals, and preservation, and Apple Arcade’s install base.
    Yes, absolutely despise the term ‘skill issue’ in the context of a financial decision, as well as ‘skill issue’ as a whole.

    • @GottaBeFrank
      @GottaBeFrank  10 місяців тому +6

      I've hated skill issue as a whole for a very long time. It's from either children or adults who can't come up with a good response.

    • @nobodycares5050
      @nobodycares5050 10 місяців тому

      ​@@GottaBeFrankWait people use skill issue unironically?!?

    • @GottaBeFrank
      @GottaBeFrank  10 місяців тому +2

      Unfortunately, yes.

    • @somerobloxdude3699
      @somerobloxdude3699 10 місяців тому

      @@GottaBeFrankI remember seeing a PC-exclusive roblox game, and when i checked the group wall for that game, there was a person who said if they cant afford a pc, thats a “skill issue” (note that alot of ppl had requested mobile support on the group wall, and i have a pc myself) and imo, its just sad to see people expecting other people to just have the money to buy anything

    • @sboinkthelegday3892
      @sboinkthelegday3892 10 місяців тому

      4:36
      I know their situation. They're on the market to complain what platfroms blue rat game is on.
      Yeah, it's not skill issue, it's inherent talent issue that DTT or lead poisoning made them permanently unhireable to overcome, and medicare doesn't stretch to frivolous purchases.
      For any other situation, you ahve to be the ABSOLUTE scum, to cry about PURCHASE OPTIONS and then turn back wailing that nobody is allowed to put your entitlements into the context YOU flaunt them in, and pretend to be victim. What a crybully move. YOU shut the f up. "As a whole", no, you don't get to ride the "i was born poor :(" train over entering this conversation with "I NEED my sanerk games and I need them ALWAYS!". This case is SPECIFIC.
      This self-victimizing can have it's place if you fr break out the numbers and call out something like having to choose between power and water. AND EVEN THEN you'd save the MOST money with that eBay iPhone, and periodically cutting down on monthly entertainment subs, that's basic-as frugality. THAT'S the finance situation we ALL are in, especially when producing US level heaps of trash because US economy doesn't shoulder the COST of sorting its own waste. Complain about lacking iPhone coverage if you were born legless into a burning chemical heap in India.

  • @DaveAced
    @DaveAced 10 місяців тому +34

    Exclusivity of any kind sucks, and I really do hope that the game comes out to other platforms after the contract runs up rather than it being taken off the platform and within time become unplayable - I'm very much looking forward to the release of it, just upgraded to the latest iMac so I'm defs ready to experience it!

    • @GottaBeFrank
      @GottaBeFrank  10 місяців тому +6

      It's going to look so good on that iMac.

    • @Timotarius_
      @Timotarius_ 10 місяців тому +1

      Exclusivity for consoles makes sense for some games , I don’t think people would buy a Nintendo console if it had no exclusives. But making a sonic game exclusive to an Apple device makes even less sense even though I own iPhone and Apple TV 4K

    • @DaveAced
      @DaveAced 10 місяців тому +6

      @@Timotarius_ I think people are forgetting this is a game fully funded by Apple, if a game company is approached to make a game for a specific service they’re not going to turn it down, that’s just business in general

  • @MiltonGagliardi
    @MiltonGagliardi 10 місяців тому +10

    Living in a shitty country, I have to save money for months just to buy a single 60$ game a year, and used iPhone costs excatly the same, so no, the 'buy and old phone just to play one game' isn't really an option. Still, I'm at least happy the game got made and some people will be able to enjoy it. I'll check your streams once it comes out to see how it is.

    • @GottaBeFrank
      @GottaBeFrank  10 місяців тому +5

      Yeah. It's a huge blow to those in really bad markets & countries.

  • @LilMxShivani
    @LilMxShivani 10 місяців тому +7

    Damn, is this game just exclusive to iPhone devices because of Arcade? Really unfortunate, just found out about this game and I wanna play it so bad but I don't have an iPhone nor can I buy it.

    • @sa64ds
      @sa64ds 10 місяців тому +3

      You can buy a Mac, iPad, or Apple TV (with a controller) and play it that way

    • @LilMxShivani
      @LilMxShivani 10 місяців тому +3

      @@sa64ds Fuck, I absolutely can't play the game then because I can't buy any of those - Would a laptop work? I'm currently saving up money to buy myself a laptop

    • @sa64ds
      @sa64ds 10 місяців тому

      @@LilMxShivaniMacBooks do work. Basically, if it’s a fairly recent Apple device (excluding the Apple Watch), it’s guaranteed to support Apple Arcade. I’d recommend doing your own research, just to be safe.

  • @megasoniczxx
    @megasoniczxx 10 місяців тому +5

    Yeah, I can't say i'm really angry about this since, like you said, we probably might not have it otherwise. Just a bit disappointed since this looks like the kind of Sonic game I was hoping Sonic Team would make and I might not get to play it.

    • @GottaBeFrank
      @GottaBeFrank  10 місяців тому +1

      Yeah. Seeing this has me genuinely interested in a 3D game for the first time in a long time.

  • @earlduran6419
    @earlduran6419 10 місяців тому +8

    This "controversy" reminds me how Just Dance (more specifically Just Dance 2023 Edition and onward) received controversy due to not being available on Xbox One and PS4 despite the game being released on Nintendo Switch which is the only platform supports more than one controller option, the Xbox Series version does not support the Kinect due to the Xbox Series consoles does not support the Kinect, PS5 version did not support PS Move or the PS4 Camera despite the PS5 being compatible with the PS Move and the PS4 Camera with the adapter, and the fact the game is online only though you can download up to 40 songs but your progress is online only. Oh, the numerous bugs and glitches which includes the Just Dance Version of Unlimited Colors bug reminiscent of Sonic Colors Ultimate, Lag when playing overtime at launch, disconnections of players during online multiplayer mode, a fake save file corruption bug, and of course, the many crashes. The bugs and glitches I've heard so far are only from the Nintendo Switch version and I can't say the PS5 and Xbox Series versions are perfect.

    • @jarmelatodyssechutminds126
      @jarmelatodyssechutminds126 10 місяців тому +1

      Not to mention the use of denuvo in Sonic Colors ultimate. Why? By the time they finally got the steam release. The storefront mentions the third party DRM by the name of denuvo for Sonic Colors ultimate. So Sonic team has finally screwed the pooch once more and make me trust less in them.

  • @randompog8493
    @randompog8493 10 місяців тому +3

    I initially thought hacking the arcade onto a foreign device might work and im sure someone already did that but i couldn't imagine how
    At least UA-cam has my back so i can see it if not play it and who knows? It might handle like garbage because thats just been mobile games in general of this kind 50% of the time

    • @GottaBeFrank
      @GottaBeFrank  10 місяців тому

      Yeah. If only it was that easy.

  • @joeker5208
    @joeker5208 10 місяців тому +9

    Getting some Sonic X nostalgia with the character line up

  • @theoverseer1775
    @theoverseer1775 10 місяців тому +2

    My dad's getting a new iPhone soon and told me he could give me the iPhone 14 he currently uses, life is once again choosing to give me horror protagonist levels of luck I absolutely DO NOT deserve

  • @gameyfirebro9645
    @gameyfirebro9645 10 місяців тому +2

    There's an Angry Birds game also locked to Apple Arcade that's pretty gr8; too bad I'm not an apple user.

  • @spiritmacardi9300
    @spiritmacardi9300 10 місяців тому +1

    Considering Sega adds Denuvo to their PC games, I don't think they want you actually being able to OWN their games.

  • @dekulinkgamer2789
    @dekulinkgamer2789 10 місяців тому +4

    The only complaint i have is that i can't play it other than that. This game looks good and fun

    • @GottaBeFrank
      @GottaBeFrank  10 місяців тому +1

      Yeah. That exclusivity kinda sucks because it looks like a promising title that everyone should have access to.

    • @Pepperknight341
      @Pepperknight341 10 місяців тому

      Said literally everyone complaining about this game.

  • @sa64ds
    @sa64ds 10 місяців тому +3

    I think I might play Sonic Dream Team on all my Apple devices when it releases, looks really fun and I’m glad a somewhat-Sonic Adventure 3 does exist. Although, I’m not sure if the game will get ported to other platforms considering Hardlight primarily makes games for mobile devices (and before anyone says Dream Team is coming to Mac and Apple TV as well, Apple uses the same (if not similar) APIs and graphics library (or whatever else) for all of their devices, so Hardlight is still working with similar stuff as iPhones and iPads.).
    As for Apple Arcade, I did use it for a bit and have enjoyed some of the games I played using it, including Sonic Dash+ (replaced regular Sonic Dash for me while I had Arcade), Shovel Knight Dig, and The Survivalists. I stopped paying for it as Apple raised the price of Apple One (and I think they raised the price for Arcade again fairly recently). I was miffed that Apple locked the latest update for Stardew Valley behind a + version on Arcade (even though the normal version on mobile is paid with no ads) after I stopped paying for it. I’ll probably consider re-paying for it for Dream Team.

    • @sa64ds
      @sa64ds 10 місяців тому +1

      Geez, this is the longest UA-cam comment I ever written…
      TL;DR: Dream Team looks good, I don’t think it will get ported because Hardlight mainly makes mobile games, I enjoyed using Apple Arcade when I had it.

  • @AnimalXing
    @AnimalXing 10 місяців тому +3

    I’m still coming to terms with Dream Team looking exactly like my ideal Sonic game

  • @PsRohrbaugh
    @PsRohrbaugh 5 місяців тому +1

    I am old and have no interest in gaming on a phone. I will play games on my 75 inch TV. I will play games on my 34" 240hz monitor on my PC. I'm not going to play games on my phone or tablet - regardless of apple vs android

    • @GottaBeFrank
      @GottaBeFrank  5 місяців тому +1

      An Apple TV would work on that 75 inch TV. That's an option.

  • @katieee_llyn
    @katieee_llyn 10 місяців тому +1

    I have an iPhone but I’m not buying a subscription to play it. I might just watch a let’s play of it on UA-cam 😢

    • @GottaBeFrank
      @GottaBeFrank  10 місяців тому +1

      I'd say look into getting a trial of Apple Arcade. If you've never used it before, it should give you a month for free. Just remember to cancel before that month is up.

  • @azimuddin1890
    @azimuddin1890 10 місяців тому +4

    I’ll buy it still, but I wish it just in regular apple store.

    • @GottaBeFrank
      @GottaBeFrank  10 місяців тому +1

      Same. That would have been awesome.

    • @azimuddin1890
      @azimuddin1890 10 місяців тому

      @@GottaBeFrank
      Wait, I meant Apple Store, not arcade.

    • @YeomasBros.2008
      @YeomasBros.2008 10 місяців тому

      @@azimuddin1890nope you were right put it on all app stores

  • @macewindu3185
    @macewindu3185 10 місяців тому +1

    I’m gonna be playing on my IPhone 15 plus with backbone controller. Wish this was coming to console tho

  • @ToonyTails
    @ToonyTails 10 місяців тому +1

    I feel like a lot of the people who were complaining about this also spent over $500 on a PS5 just for Spider Man 2

    • @GottaBeFrank
      @GottaBeFrank  10 місяців тому

      I don't doubt that, but I will doubt it was a lot of them.

    • @inkchariot6147
      @inkchariot6147 10 місяців тому

      Dropping 500 bucks on a whole system or phone just to play one game is the dumbest thing.

  • @SuperSireBoyYT
    @SuperSireBoyYT 10 місяців тому +2

    Considering how much promotion dream team is getting, i would assume it’s going to be preserved, unless they just delist the videos once it disappearsig

    • @GottaBeFrank
      @GottaBeFrank  10 місяців тому +1

      Sega still has the trailers for ChuChu Rocket! Universe up, but the game's been gone for over a year. It's not common for game trailers for delisted games to disappear from the publisher's UA-cam channel.

  • @Mariocat99
    @Mariocat99 10 місяців тому +1

    Would be neat if Apple had added Apple Arcade to not only MAC but Windows and linux too at least. But doubt it

  • @azimuddin1890
    @azimuddin1890 5 місяців тому

    After playing it x3, it’s underwhelming. Controls feel a little heavy and slightly stiff, levels aren’t that interesting, there’s not much movesets and they are underpowered as h.f.i.l and don’t feel good to control (gliding), and there’s a ton of automation with the rail-grinding. The bosses (first three) were neato, if the second one confuting. I know it’s a mobile game but I feel there could’ve been much more. For me, it’s a 6/10 at least.

  • @infintebruh007
    @infintebruh007 10 місяців тому

    It's just dumb it is an iPhone arcade exclusive. The game itself so far looks fun. But dayum.

  • @Nostalgic80s-nd3qb
    @Nostalgic80s-nd3qb 9 місяців тому +1

    Yeah, i can totally see why so many Sonic fans would be upset. Why not release the game on consoles rather than on the arcade part of the App Store. It’s just baffling.

    • @GottaBeFrank
      @GottaBeFrank  9 місяців тому +1

      Easy. Apple funded it. If they're paying for it, they'll want it to be exclusive. Like Nintendo and the Bayonetta series.

    • @Nostalgic80s-nd3qb
      @Nostalgic80s-nd3qb 9 місяців тому

      @GottaBeFrank couldn’t agree more. I honestly wouldn’t be surprised if this game doesn’t get many downloads, which would be a shame.

    • @GottaBeFrank
      @GottaBeFrank  9 місяців тому +1

      Apple Arcade has a large number of users, so the game might do well.

    • @Nostalgic80s-nd3qb
      @Nostalgic80s-nd3qb 9 місяців тому

      @GottaBeFrank Yeah, you’re right. Let’s just hope that SEGA will port this game onto other consoles and platforms. By the way, I have a question for you.

  • @mrcaos999
    @mrcaos999 10 місяців тому

    To be frank i think gamers should stop to support the push for digital exclusive titel. They only do it because this gives them more control over the products they sell not to make it more convient for the customer. I think if you buy a product you really should own it and not be depended on the streaming service keeping it online.

  • @lucille404
    @lucille404 10 місяців тому +2

    I just grabbed a used Apple TV so I can play the game when it comes out, and to my surprise it is literally impossible to add friends on it without owning another Apple device. So it seems like I won't be able to play multiplayer unless I can get my hands on yet another expensive device. Probably gonna just get a cheap 6S with a broken screen for like $20 to get around that but still, really baffling anti-consumer practice there

    • @GottaBeFrank
      @GottaBeFrank  10 місяців тому

      Good luck navigating the menu or apps with a broken screen.

    • @lucille404
      @lucille404 10 місяців тому

      @@GottaBeFrank meant more like a slightly cracked screen than outright broken lol, I just can't justify spending any more than what those go for in my area

    • @GottaBeFrank
      @GottaBeFrank  10 місяців тому

      Ahh, fair enough. As long as you can get to the game, you're good. Just get a cheap bluetooth controller and you should be set.

  • @wizzenberry
    @wizzenberry 10 місяців тому

    When some random devs make a better game than sega team, 1st was modders now these guys. Sonic team have to go guys

  • @breeckthon5144
    @breeckthon5144 10 місяців тому +1

    I have Apple Arcade every now and then, and I do think it’s worth it with all of the great titles that release on that platform. But it’s definitely not something you subscribe to all the time

    • @GottaBeFrank
      @GottaBeFrank  10 місяців тому

      Fair. There are some great titles there, just nothing that keeps you subscribed at all times. Unless you use Apple One.

  • @silverfox__12
    @silverfox__12 10 місяців тому

    We finally get a new Adventure game. Sonic games have been released on every possible platform for a very long time now.
    This is disgusting because they know this is a heavily demanded game by die hard fans. They know they will make several people jump into the Apple echo system just to play this.

    • @GottaBeFrank
      @GottaBeFrank  10 місяців тому

      I went over the possible solutions, though they might still be out of reach for everyone. I do agree that the exclusivity kinda sucks.

  • @breeckthon5144
    @breeckthon5144 10 місяців тому

    I got my iPhone 11 for 150$, and it’s more then capable to play all Apple Arcade games

    • @GottaBeFrank
      @GottaBeFrank  10 місяців тому

      Yeah, that should be more than enough to play it.

  • @MC_MYSTERIALTEAM9696
    @MC_MYSTERIALTEAM9696 10 місяців тому

    So, Majin next, but I don't think that he will help them fighting against Lord X

  • @jarmelatodyssechutminds126
    @jarmelatodyssechutminds126 10 місяців тому

    I am no stranger to platform exclusivity . I am the opposer against this practice ever since the PSX360 era. Mostly the DLC. I usually think their third party exclusive as second nature and filler and also strong lewd fetish for PlayStation fanboys even to this day still got the hots for. Which is why going forward I never tolerate exclusivity deals. And it's coming from a guy who bought Monster Hunter Generations ultimate. I never liked platform exclusivity deals no matter what it is. Whatever it is a personal computer or a gaming console I don't support it. You know what else I don't support. The god forbidden denuvo anti-temperance not to mention with one game or two lock exclusively to just one platform it's going to sold less copies and have fewer players of the playerbase.

    • @jarmelatodyssechutminds126
      @jarmelatodyssechutminds126 10 місяців тому

      Make me want to bust out my nox. That will tell Sonic fans as well as the iOS and Macintosh fans to suck it up. If they don't have emulators. they can't access old games. Emulation is here to stay not to like Pirates.

    • @user-be3qc7re9o
      @user-be3qc7re9o 10 місяців тому

      So you don't like how Bayonetta is a Nintendo Exclusive, for example?
      Because the sequels wouldn't exist without Nintendo's involvement after Platinum Games got rejected by Sony and Microsoft TWICE.

  • @vwnt
    @vwnt 10 місяців тому

    Grrr, I hate apple...

  • @GINTegg
    @GINTegg 10 місяців тому

    Honestly and I know this is petty but my main issue is that it's specifically Apple. I hate Apple and their products therefore I refuse to invest time and money into their digital ecosystem simply to play a singular game that I in no way actually own especially when I know it would play better on any other device. I am glad for Apple product users that the game will be so easily discoverable there though. I imagine it'll lead to people playing the title that would have never seen it otherwise. I only hope that the game is able to be ported very soon because it does look really good.

  • @afhamdanish1957
    @afhamdanish1957 10 місяців тому

    I mean it's still mobile game but it's just a deal with apple don't get me wrong I'm android user too but i understand why this game only in apple arcade its a deal what do you expected that tbh i don't mind this game in iphone i mean this phone can handle re village and re 4 remake do you think capcom going to port in android i don't think so and again it's still a mobile game but with bigger budget game funding by apple itself with no ad and no app purchase tbh the game really looks good

  • @YeomasBros.2008
    @YeomasBros.2008 10 місяців тому

    This video is invalid please put the game on other platforms

    • @GottaBeFrank
      @GottaBeFrank  10 місяців тому +1

      How is it invalid?

    • @YeomasBros.2008
      @YeomasBros.2008 10 місяців тому

      @@GottaBeFrankit doesn’t mean anything other than “you just want this game to die on Apple Arcade”

    • @GottaBeFrank
      @GottaBeFrank  10 місяців тому

      Yeah. I don't remember that being said at all. I spoke about the exclusivity. Feel free to rewatch the video to see how many times I brought it up.

  • @wishbonefan
    @wishbonefan 10 місяців тому

    don't forget the jailbreaking your iphone also exists 🏴‍☠🏴‍☠🏴‍☠

    • @sa64ds
      @sa64ds 10 місяців тому

      I think Apple has safeguards in place for Apple Arcade games on iOS & iPadOS… so I don’t think jailbreaking would do anything…

    • @GottaBeFrank
      @GottaBeFrank  10 місяців тому

      I don't think I've seen much with preserving games through iOS jailbreaking. I remember it was a huge thing 10+ years ago, but not so much these days.

    • @wishbonefan
      @wishbonefan 10 місяців тому

      @@sa64ds I tried it with an Angry Birds game exclusive to Apple Arcade and it worked

  • @Blueboyrave
    @Blueboyrave 10 місяців тому

    Man, i remember a few games on iOS that are no longer avaiable and i wish i could play again

    • @GottaBeFrank
      @GottaBeFrank  10 місяців тому

      Yeah. I wish backwards compatibility with older apps was a thing on iOS. I would love to replay the X-Men arcade game or Guardian Saga again.

  • @BootlegGremlin
    @BootlegGremlin 10 місяців тому

    *laughs in virtualbox*

    • @louism771
      @louism771 10 місяців тому

      Tell me more. Virtualize macOS and passtrough a mac compatible GPU?

    • @aquaponieee
      @aquaponieee 10 місяців тому

      there is no way to run iOS on a virtual machine or any hardware that isn't an iPhone

    • @GottaBeFrank
      @GottaBeFrank  10 місяців тому

      I think they meant macOS. You can play most Apple Arcade games on a mac, if it's running the correct OS.

  • @asadrandolph7265
    @asadrandolph7265 10 місяців тому

    I’m playing this game when it comes out

  • @AvatarAidan
    @AvatarAidan 10 місяців тому

    I do think it is a little Overblown, I do plan on playing it on my IPhone X. Looks interesting.

  • @557deadpool
    @557deadpool 5 місяців тому +1

    Or just like..... don't play it. You don't need to play literally every single game out there

    • @GottaBeFrank
      @GottaBeFrank  5 місяців тому

      Really missing the point of the video. By the way, I've played it and it's pretty good.

    • @kurichan355
      @kurichan355 5 місяців тому

      @@GottaBeFranknot sure if you’ve mentioned it somewhere else but when are you making another vid?

    • @GottaBeFrank
      @GottaBeFrank  5 місяців тому

      Soon. I'm editing a big Mega Man video and it became a little overwhelming. I want to have it out this month, but it depends on how much I can get done throughout the day.