I Played Sonic Omens So You Don't Have To
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- Опубліковано 28 чер 2024
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Today, I revisit the controversial fan game, Sonic Omens. This is what I took away from it.
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9:12 - Alright. Super weak point made. I'll admit that.
[Reading Material]
Sonic Omens/Ouroboros Google Doc: docs.google.com/document/d/1mXC2FHMieDdt3giLxmPNz92-Ghips1EOCwsB1LRGudc/edit
Ouroboros Studio's Response: docs.google.com/document/d/1iuFZHT9swE2cHzQROHSu0q_NJnEHocCp_g3zFsL_og0/edit
Hello ;)
This is more painful than Sonic 06
@@-Poka- Fr
Wow, I'm so much more pissed off at them now
Ok
"Consider this your bad omen!" Has the same energy as "It's morbin time".
The funniest part is that the line was probably meant to sound unironicly badass and Sonic like but ended up sounding goofy 😭
Its Omen Time!!!1!11!
and "what are we some kind of suicide squad?"
i thought that was made up at first 💀
“Jesse, we need to Break Bad” has a closer energy lmao
"Chip was doing a Charmy impression"
I will never understand why people think Chip's original style of voice didn't fit him. Not every tiny character needs to be pitched up
Yeah, it really put me off with how high pitched Chip sounds. He’s a damn god for Christ’s sakes…
That’s how he was in the Jp dub, I think he’s meant to like a young kid.
Well a very old, or ancient, or non aging kid god thing.
And in Sonic Unleashed, his voice got slightly deeper when he found out that he was Light Gaia.
Yea, this game doesn't deserve Chip, they did him wrong, I personally like his original voice
@@brawler5760 fr
Maria's boss fight is so hideous that it drove Eggman's VA to a mental breakdown on his own stream when he tried to beat the game while the developers were making fun of him
I feel bad for him and the devs are pretty garbage for finding it funny.
They're assholes even towards eachother, that is ridiculous
link?
Wait as in the voice actor was live streaming and the people behind this game were there are along with him? making fun of him when he was suffering through it?
@@damainman652 YEP! not live but in chat
Fun Fact: Eggman's voice actor streamed the game on release and literally rage quit during Maria Boss Fight. While saying how busted this game is.
don't forget that the devs were on his stream and were making fun of him while he was having a break down
Why is Maria a boss?😅
@@gracekim25 i legit don't know.
@@gracekim25 Bolt: Becouse i can. Becouse why not. And i don,t care.
Did he have Chat moderators?
I just wanna say, giving Shadow a Maria boss battle is single-handedly the edgiest thing I ever seen, and not in a good or dumb way either
A Maria boss fight would’ve only made sense in Sonic Adventure 2, where he has to remember what Maria truly wanted. Once he remembers, Maria smiles and fades away, prompting Shadow to help everyone else stop the Biolizard.
@@paperluigi6132 I still think that having a boss fight of her would be in bad taste, I'd rather have a flashback Maria rescue mission with Shadow taking on Gun Soldiers and etc instead
Idea is actually pretty awesome. Omens simply lacked the build up for such a thing.
i could imagine a maria boss fight working if it was like a nightmare shadow was having
@@SaanWukong So basically, Lost Impact from Shadow the Hedgehog.
“Consider this your bad omen”
This is truly the most fan game I have never played.
One of the fan games of all time.
Let's be honest here, listen to half of any single Sonic game, loved or hated, and you will find a lot of trash lines. From Adventure to Forces. It's common in this genre and cartoon style. Honestly? I actually thought it was a pretty good line considering the series that it is in, just could have been said better.
@@genozp2328 He doesn’t say “It’s time to get unleashed” or shit like that.
@@El_Mince, baldy McNosehair? Many lines in Sonic Forces? Ending lines in Sonic Heroes? There are plenty of lines in this series that are quite cringy, the fact that people are complaining about it in a Sonic 3D fan game is honestly both frustrating and amusing how toxic it is. It wasn't even that bad of a line, cringy, but honestly pretty good line for this type of game. No, this series has its own plethora of cringey lines, and many more regular lines that are said in a way that makes it cringy. And it isn't like a name drop is that big of a deal. 😒
@@genozp2328 Baldy McNosehair ha ha ha. You act like people defend that line. Sonic Forces’s script got what it deserved. That last Sonic Heroes line is kind of dumb. I have to agree with that one
“Sonic’s voice actor sounds like he’s just doing a Sonic impression with little to no range” THANK YOU!!! I’ve been seeing people saying stuff like “the other voice actors are iffy, but Sonic’s voice is really really good!!!” but no!! He’s arguably worse than the others!!! He’s just mimicking Jason Griffith’s inflections without actually, y’know, *acting*, it kinda sounds like an AI voice at times. I’m sure it’s not the VA’s fault, rather the direction, or more likely lack thereof, just telling him to “do a Sonic voice” and leaving it at that
Yep the voice acting is definitely bad
Eggman's voice is the best one in this game
As an director, I see the voice impression is okay, but the acting isn't.
He does sound like Sonic, but doesn't play the emotions so well.
Ik but its just a fan game….
@@donchii9538 fangames aren't above criticism, speacially fangames like this
"Shadow is working with an Evil metrix who befriended chris from sonic x"
Bro there are so many things wrong with this sentence
The developers must be fanfic writers in their free time.
@@brawler5760 The developers probably spend 90% of their free time writing edgy wattpad fanfics.
This game's story is so confusing, nonsensical and inconsistent, that it feels like a bad fever dream
@@piranhalettuce This reply has more substance than the actual game's story.
@@brawler5760 Ngl, I've seen actual fanfics with better writing than this.
This truly was.. a Sonic Omens!
Roll credit
Cue the CSI: Miami theme
LOL
You either die a fan, or live long enough to see yourself become the fan project.
@@GottaBeFrank fr
“Consider this you bad omen” sounds like one of those lines that sonic colors would create
This is one of those games that kinda deserves to be forgotten about.
Not only is it an extremely flawed game, but a lot of the folks behind it are not very nice people.
They don’t really know how to handle criticism at all. And it shows with this final build. The final boss drove me insane. It took me an hour to beat it. So, yeah, I kinda hate this game haha.
At least none of us ever have to play it again!
Yeah. I think that is the big takeaway with this experience. It's over and we can move on.
@@GottaBeFrank atleast we got spark 3 to appreciate now
It’s a real game?
@@gracekim25 Yes.
Personally, I think all 3d Sonic fangames aren't great (except for Robo Blast 2) Sonic GT because it tries to mesh the "get to the goal as fast as you can" with "open world adventure" and this game for the drama, bugs, and the straight up rushed story.
I LOVED the moment where Super Sonic The Hedgehog says "IT'S OMING TIME" after successfully landing a hit on Exiled, truly one of the most fan games I've ever played.
The link to Sonic X was one of the worse idea thought: the main serie and Sonic X have scenario really differents (even Sonic adventure 1 and 2 aren't exactly the same for the main serie and Sonic X).
The game will make one omillion dollars thanks to the scummy Patreon paywalls.
Even with the money took, I still consider this game isn't to the same level than Sonic unleashed (even less Sonic generations).
@@carlosbleu7396 This game isn't even on the same lvl as Lost World lol
Sonic lost world had also its default (mostly the story) but hadn't as much as incoherences like here. A kind of formule was created, it was good but undeepened (unfortunately). But despite it, the gameplay and level design were mostly correct and cannot exceed 14/20.
I remember when people were saying, "Sega, hire this man," when this game was being developed. I was hoping for this game to be amazing.
I wonder if Eggman VA said that. Cuz then this guy freaking ragequit the Maria bossfight while devs were laughing at him.
Hehe yeah who said that🤔😅
Certified "sega hire this man" moment
it is a good game
@@nellie8653 No it’s not time for you wich trial. 🔥🔥🔥🔥
I'm really glad you mentioned that segment with Shadow and Chaos Dash. When I tried that level, I nearly got trapped in that section until I realized there was an extra container lying around. But if I missed just one jump, I would have been forced to go back to the last checkpoint.
One of my BIGGEST problems with this game has got to be the rings scattering around you when you take a hit. Half of the time they will keep moving away from you. And the rings will literally be ungrabbable if you're in the middle of chaos control.
More of that, on the stream of Sumochkin (Eggman's VA) it was said he doesn't even know a plot or at least main plot twists. Despite him voicing one of the more important characters, devs still didn't give him any info about plot. Not to mention all the taunting he got while he was trying to play the game. And even later, Humanarian (Shadow's VA) said the game was specifically designed to make people suffer. Well, they succeeded, by making metal ember and Maria a game of osu where any mistake equals to death
Tell us more, I am interested
There is so much wrong with that. People defend this game?
@@GottaBeFrank what did they do? All I know is that they tried to make money off their fan games and out every other fan game in peril or something.
@@Cool_Kid95 they also have..questionable textures of Maria in the game files
@@Haddons And they are in general just a bunch of scummy "people"
You know, the omen devs should've used skillshare because if they did, they would know how to make a good game.
Great content like usual!
This comment wins lmao
@@GottaBeFrank Most definitely
I once saw some youtuber respond to a comment that said
"toycat: the situation in Ukraine is very bad, anyway thanks for skillshare for sponsoring this video"
and then the youtuber said use code Ukraine for 10% off 💀💀💀💀💀💀
this comment gives the same energy
@@PitDoesMinecraft But then SEGA might actually hire this man!
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Love the part where Sonic said “consider this your bad omen!” And Omened all over the place. Truly one of the men to ever be hired.
This made me giggle lol 😂
Why the heck is this game’s story tied to Sonic X? I liked that series, sure, but it really hasn’t aged well. Also, mixing it with the canon of the games simply doesn’t work because it adapted Adventure 1 and 2’s stories and used Emerl for a completely different story altogether. Both versions of those stories can’t have happened at the same time. Beyond that, doesn’t a large amount of the community hate Chris? Acknowledging him like this is guaranteed to be controversial. Also no Cosmo? Seriously? At least tell me the plant that’s related to her gets an appearance somewhere in the game.
In fact, Emerl was a reference from Sonic battle (a game necessary to understand Sonic and the dark brotherhood). They wanted making this game canon but liking Sonic X was a terrible decision.
@@carlosbleu7396 I know Sonic Battle. I borrowed it from a neighbor and it eventually made me rage so hard that I shattered the screen of my GBA SP… Anyway, Battle was a prelude to Sonic Advance 3, and Sonic Chronicles has been removed from the canon.
Sonic and the dark brotherhood should have had a sequel but because of the few sells of the game and the acquisition of Bioware by ElectronicArts, the studio abandoned this idea and this game wasn't canon despite the interesting story about Echidnas, the link to Sonic adventure 1 and Sonic battle.
This proves that fan games aren't necessary all better than official games. I hope that Sonic frontiers will have a good story and, if they decide to show again some vilains like Zavok, Metal Sonic or Infinite, they have to be a little more written like in Sonic IDW (even if this serie isn't perfect but Zavok has at least a better role here).
@@carlosbleu7396 Well it’s confirmed that Ian Flynn is writing the character’s’ dialogue so at least we can count on good characterization.
This is at least a good point.
Studio is shady and hostile. They're trying to silence anyone who says anything negative. Even going after their own team members and others that helped them make the game. My buddy and I just lost our channel after posting a couple of playthrough videos for the game. Pretty sure they just mass reported our videos. We never received any notice of violations prior to that day and none of our content seems like it would've violated the community standards. But now we have to fight to get our channel back because the studio can't take constructive criticism.
Jesus christ that's evil
Pretty sure they're bombing this comment section too, based on some of the weird, overly-defensive replies to the top comments.
@@chai_burns kinda reminds me of what happened with the creator of a mega man fan game called mega man eternal, basically he would often go into comment sections of vids that would critique or say things that aren't praise and would try to start fights, as well as often deflecting said criticism by saying no one understands game design because they don't have a degree in said subject like him, oh and also often sicking his white knight brigade on the section as well. shame some folks just can't handle the heat.
“The Maria boss fight” I don’t know why but this made me laugh so hard.
well well well
It's like all the worst aspects of the stereotypical Sonic fan creators were rolled into one product. The edgy story, the crossover fanfiction with a part of the series that has been long dead and left to obscurity, a lot of pretentiousness/self-aggrandisement from the heads of the project and a texture artist who REALLY needs their hard drive investigating based on what they did with Maria - all on top of a game that is the epitome of the old adage of "SEGA HIRE THIS MAN PLEASE!!!!!!"
I'd be surprised if Sonic Omens *doesn't* leave a deep, shit-brown stain on the fabric of the Sonic fangame scene.
wait what'd they do to Maria, other than that bossfight? (also could someone please explain why there was a Maria bossfight?)
@@notnotnotjet Why there's a boss fight? To be edgy.
What they did to her character model?
(Warning, it's creepy.)
They fully modeled and textured her underwear and the texture artist wrote some pretty creepy stuff on said texture. Keep in kind, she's a little girl.
They are like the unholy spawn from Ken penders and chris chan
@@ActuallyTragic So you're insinuating the guy is a pedophile and openly displayed this tendency for all?
@@blumiu2426 "Allegedly."
That google doc is something else holy shit. I knew this project was sketchy from the start but they arent even trying to hide it with some of that evidence💀
Yeah, I read the whole thing. Pretty messed up. Also HOW DARE THEY TAINT THE INNOCENCE OF THE ANGEL KNOWN AS MARIA!!! jeez Louise! And yeah I do agree with the voice acting thing. I HATE Shadow’s voice SO MUCH.
@@hollyadams7413 Everyone sounds like they the only criteria was "can you at least FORCE a voice that resembles the 4kids voice actor?"
The English pronounciation is also pretty spotty. I feel it would've been better to just let them say the lines in Russian, their first language, with English subtitles.
@@hollyadams7413 hmmm. Is it odd that I liked Shadow's accent here?
@@RicoPrabowo Mmmm... eh. To each their own. I might tolerate a little if the script had a few tweaks.
Yall cry a lot why don't yall ship more hedgehog kids together.
"This is Sonic. I'd advise not getting Omen'd by him"
He'll shout "It's Omen time!"
@@GottaBeFrank Loved that part when he Omen'd all over the place
I thought he Omen'd too much, but I guess that's only me.
I feel like this game is like a ball pit in a burger king. Gonna riff a RLM line here but, "Lots of colored balls and I jump in the ball pit and have fun. Then after a while, I realize there is a bottom to the ball pit, and all the balls are covered in questionable Maria textures and bad level design, and I just wanna get outta the ball pit!"
UUUOOOHHHHH 😭😭
That's one way to put it.
Who's RLM?
@@guiteshima Red Letter Media
Why am I reading this in Sticks' voice.
BRUH WHAT, you can lock onto the bosses??? Why does the game never tell you that but it gives you several intrusive hint pop ups on the most basic Sonic things
Having to awkwardly control the camera while also trying to play thebgame was so awful
Yeah. Funny thing is that you need do toggle back and forth for the first phase of Exiled.
It does tell you? It was in the tutorial during the first boss battle. But admittedly it could've been mapped to a better button than pushing in the stick, in the heat of the moment I tended to unlock from the boss quite a bit.
I'm sick of people treating this game as the second coming of Christ because "pretty graphics". A game shouldn't be judged only by its aspect. You wanna play good Sonic fangames? Go play Sonic Robo Blast 2, Sonic And The Fallen Star and Sonic Triple Trouble 16-bit.
Edit: Ok people, I get it. There are more very good Sonic fangames, I just mentioned a few.
There's wise words called "Never judge book by it's cover". People got tricked by amazing graphics, only to end up playing hellish game.
So moral of this story, even if this game has cool graphics, there's potential to be unplayable or unenjoyable game.
I never liked this game's graphics
Or replay Sonic GT. That’s what I did. Playing Sonic GT again made me feel like I was cleaning off that omen gunk that got on me. Lol
@Mister MashupsYT Shoot I’d rather run around in Sonic utopia for a couple of hours than play Sonic Omens again. Lol
Don't forget project hero
This is for the pain and suffering you had to go through
Thank you so much! I really appreciate it.
Damn
How’d you do that?
@@paperluigi6132 There’s a thing called “Thanks” below the title of the video, just scroll sideways and you’ll see it.
man, that's alot of money you got from your mommy's credit card XD
I read the entire document, and holy shit how people can defend the game and devs. The evidence in the document are just rock solid, there is no excuse for devs.
Wait what document?
@@mroversteer3739 check description
@@atake176 I mean, other then the content paywall thing (which is illegal all things considered, its not their IP to make money off of even if I hate copyright), the whole censorship thing (I consider censorship of any form as vile filth because, as the saying goes, banning steak cause baby's can't eat them, is a ridiculous notion) the rest doesn't matter. Even the Maria thing, which don't get me wrong is strange, but its about as bad as a fictional 12 year old girl with 3rd degree burns as a texture.
The pay wall is for Russian testing btw also this has been debugged in the sonic shows new video
@@lewlshayshaywhat they put that hoe into Visual Studio? Tf you mean they debugged it lmao
Great Visuals and music to accompany bad gameplay!? In a SONIC GAME!?!? What has the world come to 😝
Absolute madness!
nah “his world” is from sonic 06 and “fist bump” is from sonic forces and both of the games are mediocore at best
If you remember mgr was also the thing. In terms of great visual and music that is, not the gameplay.
@@GottaBeFrank indeed
Oh no, they're just describing every Sonic game after adventure 2!!
I like the idea of the devs setting out to make the great Sonic game Sega could never make, but end up falling short on everything a Sonic game gets criticised for.
Ahh I remember where everyone praised this game and shit on sega without even playing the game, happy to see everyone knows it’s not that good, someone said the game gets worse the more it goes on and that’s definitely true
One hell of a time beating this game a while back. It was frustrating
Good God people, it's a fan game, just shut up and move on. Seriously, if you can't even appreciate the prospect of a fan going so far with their own vision and doing honestly quite well with portraying it in a new light, even if it had its own fair share of flaws, just get over it leave him alone and leave. How toxic do you want to be? Because toxic is all saying that is. Idiots.
@@genozp2328 if you wanna make a game, expect me to call it shit if it’s shit
@@leik7728, criticizing something for what it is is much different than passionately hating it and calling it out on the daily. If someone passionately hates a Sonic fan game in a way where they almost go out of their way to humiliate it and nag about it, that individual needs help badly and the main problems do not exist with the game at that point. It's someone's passion project. Criticize it, point out what you thought could have definitely been better, and then shut up and move on and hope they look at what you say as advice or at least something to look into. I would say that people who like the game should do the same thing. There are definitely Sonic fan games that deserve more credit than others, and there are certainly some Sonic fan games that deserve less credit than others, but passionately hating one to such an extent only really shows how desperate people are to nag on about others. If I were to make a Sonic fan game, which I have debated upon doing, I would expect people to throw criticism, praise, and random hatred at me. I would enjoy the praise, but at the end of the day if it isn't criticism or advice, it's useless unless there is something to build off of. Yes, many people are talking about why they don't like it, which is helpful, but then they continue on their opinion on why it is such a horrible thing that should be forgotten and never played or thought of in the first place. And then it's just toxic and stupid. Nazo Unleashed is a great example of a fan work that had pretty much the opposite reaction from fans, yet pretty much did the exact same thing was even less effort. A lot of planning and effort goes into these types of games and projects, both animating and game designing, and there are always critiques to be made and opinions to be had. If someone can't be respectful or tolerant in their opinions, then they aren't worth the words they say. As a creator, it is best to put forth as much effort in creativity and everything you do, be it a personal project or a fan project, and while one has many forms of feedback that they will get, you must ignore the majority of the positive, almost all of the overtly negative, and only listen to the ones that give critical feedback to build off of for better and for worse. This game clearly has many problems, but I think it has far too many things that it tried to do and did do mostly successful and uniquely in its own design, too much so to actually call it trash or anything remotely similar. Obviously, that is my opinion, but since this is a fan game, I do believe that most of the more toxic and hateful opinions should be looked over and forgotten themselves.
@@genozp2328 I mean use your own logic, if you ain’t like my comment just move on
1. YOU CAN TARGET THE BOSSES??
2. Those platforms that move out of the way too quickly in Shadow's level are meant to be used with Chaos Control, but that's not conveyed very well
3. I love how the final boss doesn't actually TELL you the controls for using Super Sonic. It tells you what Super Sonic can do and what you need to do to damage Exiled, but not what BUTTONS needed to be pressed to activate these new moves.
4. No playable Super Sonic after you beat the game? Do I need to get all of the Red Rings to do that? If so, screw that. No thank you.
5. I feel like one simple change would have made the bosses bearable: make the hitbox for collecting rings-- both collecting and re-collecting, much, much larger. Collecting rings in a Sonic game should feel fun and rewarding, not be an exercise in surgical precision.
6. The tree level deserves to burn for what it did to me.
Actually, the game does tell you how to fight exiled, but you need the tutorials on. Which means anytime you die, you have to put up with the tutorial interrupting you each time.
@@GottaBeFrank That's what I was talking about when it said that it told you about the abilities, but it does not tell you the actual buttons. It just says "Do the Super Chaos Blast to stun him."
@@SuperSonic68 because you can rebind controls. What if you rebind and it jut says press b and you rebinded your move on a...
@@yackan9086 You do know that you can just code the game to say to press different buttons depending on what the keybinds are right?? several games already do that????
4) Tbf, many official Sonic games only have Super Sonic playable during the final boss.
Eggman sounds like he’s smoked too many cigarettes
I wonder where the people that went "Sega take notes" are now after this game released
this game almost seems like the hunt down the freeman of sonic
Hunt Down the Hedgehog
Not really, I'd say Sonic Omens seems much worse.
The HDTF crowdfunding was also used to acquire an official license from Valve, so the monetization was justified and approved.
Yeah, they might have been lazy using pre-exiting assets, but assets can be bought, so just seeing them isn't a proof they were stolen.
And to be honest, buying assets is nowhere as bad as making a questionable underwear texture for an underaged character.
Also, only the project lead of HDTF was awful and tricked everyone, even the devs, unlike Sonic Omens where there are definitely more douchebags in the dev team.
Heck, the HDTF devs are even still patching the game by their own will despite never getting paid by that moron (who is still getting all purchase revenue), because in the end they truly care about what they made, and want to leave something at least decent.
Again verry different than the Sonic Omens devs going against anyone not praising the game.
The only true similarity is the overhype, but that is pretty much what happens with most promising fan projects, only some truly deliver.
@@Chapmike I dunno, I can see some comparisons. Weird tie-ins with plots from the official games, questionable VA work, weird and sometimes unfair game design, etc.
@@ajgameguy3674 I'm mainly talking about controversial behavior to show that Sonic Omens devs went beyond the worst things related to HDTF.
@@ajgameguy3674 I mean in terms of controversy it’s different. Yeah they’re both disgraces to their respective franchises, but HDTF’s dev team only had one questionable dickbag, who works at Activision these days. The rest of the dev team are doing their best to make HDTF an okay game. OH AND ALSO THE GAME WAS APPROVED BY VALVE TO BE SOLD(as bullshit as that is).
Damn man, I feel sorry you went through the pain that is this game, but at least the video ended up being entertaining and informative. Great job.
Also, why is Maria a final boss? :l
Plot reasons. And also the devs forgot that Shadow was already way past that.
Maria's fight is before the last level. Wrong order, but the idea is that Exiled was using Maria to use Shadow. The fight was to get rid of him, like he did with the G.U.N. robots.
@@GottaBeFrank … which is utterly pointless anyway because Shadow had moved on with his life after Shadow the Hedgehog.
@@brawler5760 Like how they forgot 2005 was one of Shadow's worst portrayals in the series
@@brawler5760 *Sonic Heroes
They made Chris look like a Sora-wannabe....which he essentially is.
I was wondering why I thought the game wasn’t that bad, seems I just haven’t gotten to the bad levels yet
Yeah. After the first few levels, the game's quality really starts to rear it's ugly head.
The game's not bad, you just have to be able to react quickly. It's a 3d sonic game with some actual difficulty
@@kal-elkent2873 are you a dev of the game?
@@kal-elkent2873 Eggmanland is a perfect example of a level being insanely hard but fun. None of these trash levels ever stack up with Eggmanland…
The voice acting is a combination of thick accents combined with bad impressions, overall just creating a bad experience.
It would've been way better if they just did there own thing that felt natural.
For instance, the dude that played sonic is trying his hardest to do a Jason Griffith impression.
And the funny part is, he does it in a way that people tried to criticize the real Jason Griffith for. With the weird inflections and only being able to do a single range.
Now that I've heard this impression, it's clear Jason knew what he was doing.
Yo the voice acting for Chip just made me burst out laughing. Like I never knew Chip's voice could get any worse until now.
Wow! The game feels so official! The sonic forces devs did su- OMENS I MEANT OMENS I SAID OMENS!
Huh. Seems like Ouroboros Studio truly channeled the spirit of Sonic Team while making this festering turd of a game. Maybe Sega should hire them so they can all continue to piss on Sonic's legacy together.
love your vids.
Hey Alvin! Just here to tell you to take your time for Episode 3 for the rebooted series. I’ll be waiting patiently (unlike most people these days) and I hope your doing well.
I was thinking about playing this back when it was a demo, I thought this would be the best modern sonic fan game ever.
Nope 😭 it became worse than sonic 06
It's a shame because it's looks and sounds fine. It's the just level design and bosses that really hold it back.
Contrary to what a lot of people think, fans aren't better than developers: they can have good ideas but without enough will and love, the result will be bad. If Sonic team didn't lie about Sonic frontiers, so I hope that this game will be entertaining.
@@carlosbleu7396 no it just shows that fans don’t actually know how to use a limitation of characters while actually taking the time to test out the core gameplay and sound design of a sonic game
@@carlosbleu7396
You say that, when Sonic Mania clearly debunks this whole explanation.
Sonic Mania has been made by fans who are passionate about Sonic and know Sonic from both personality and gameplay. Not only did Sonic Mania deliver as the next Classic Sonic Game, but it also delivered what the fans wanted: "Another Good Sonic Game"
Sonic Omens on the other hand is very fundamentally flawed, it shows that they did not take their time learning the essence of a good Sonic game.
@@leonmystique9372 Sonic Mania had sonic fans but they were professional developers first and foremost, people who've had experience in the industry for years and had the backing of an entire company, the Mania devs cannot be compared with this team who will make fun of a VA for their own shit design
I don’t understand why people were calling this one of the best fan made games ever made when it’s obviously just a mess that was made for a quick buck.
I don't get why either
Thing is theyre more likely to get sued cuz theyre using an IP that isnt thiers to make money...which is illegal.
Yo. Who remembers back when his channel name was "Knuckles Channel 3 & Knuckles"?
9:10 in defense of the disappearing floors, I believe you were supposed to use Chaos Control here, and that's why they give you an item box that refills your Chaos meter before every set of disappearing floors.
I think the worst VAs are Eggman and Shadow. Shadow for his weird accent, and Eggman because he keeps mispronouncing his words, which drives me nuts.
Retakes would probably make things better.
The devs bullied eggmans VA too for not doing good at there poorly designed game. Honestly disgusting how they treat there VAs.
Yeah. That was uncalled for. In fact, it blatantly shows that there's a problem with the game.
Still don't like how Tails sounds like a girl and Sonic sounds even worse now
@@jurassicarkjordanisgreat1778 that’s horrible 😨
It's like that one time where a sonic battle fangame (forgot the name) had an anti-hack and anti-cheat system made by the creator that makes the game unplayable, even if you got the "original" sprites from the creator, the game would activate the trojan, it's way worse here though.
Sonic Gather Battle.
Playable Tails stages? More like Fox McCloud by the look of it!
With the voice acting, I really do can't help but think
"We did twenty takes, and THAT was the best one!"
But for the story, it doesn't make any sense for Chris or Shadow to look at working with a Metarax. Especially when you consider the events of Sonic X and the Metarex Saga happened within the Omens universe, making it for Shadow seem like "character acts dumb so the plot can happen." Had he been mind controlled by the Metarex, like the Japanese version of Rise of Lyric, it might have been more believable but when he's already move on and what the Metarex desires flies in the face of his promise to Maria. And way to undermine the importance of the Chaos Emeralds, if Sonic can now go Super anytime he wants.
Despite it being a looker, the whole thing feels like cheap bootleg, with no real respect to the original source material.
Also with Weight of The World, while a good song but having heard they did have another song that dropped without warning because it didn't sound enough like Bury The Light from Devil May Cry 5 kinda turns me off from it. It seems less like, "I want to write a good song." And being more "I want to write a song like Bury the Light - with its 55,535,075 views in just about 2 years - so I can get the same attention!" Making it more like a cheap copy, rather than it coming from a place of sincerity. Especially when you look at Fly With Me from the fan project, Sonic and Tails R. Yes, like Weight, it had a vocalist who sang on the official games, Tony Harnell, but it didn't give the impression of trying to chase a modern trend, and instead were just trying to write a good song, which still fit the spirit of the source material, being the games pre-2010.
That’s the impression I got with Weight of the World. It feels like a song manufactured to ride the coat tails of other songs, and I feel bad for Bentley Jones for having to sing this. And like you said, Fly With Me is more of a song that came from a place of sincerity, and I guess the entirety of Sonic and Tails R can be summed up as that, a passion project.
@@brawler5760 I suppose if they paid Jones that's something for him at least, even if it was probably dirty money, with Ouroboros monetizing the project.
But I do think radio drama is exactly the tone the games need to get back to, rather than whatever the hell Omens was trying to do. Especially with how Shadow was written, rather than him being made into what looks to be must be a Metarex henchmen, given that he's helping them. I've not seen the whole thing yet, but I did see him giving what Chaos Emeralds he had to the Metarex willingly after blindsiding Sonic with a cheap shot from behind.
I'm glad someone mentioned the fact that you need a nasa computer to play this game, I tried to play the demo on my budget "gamer" pc and the game was running on 10 fps 💀
It's funny when people say sonic omens is the peak sonic game design and Sega should take notes. I feel like that's said for any sonic fan game nowadays lol
Sega should take notes on this game…
On what not to do for Frontiers.
I'll be honest, I am one of those people, I wasn't aware that the devs were scums. When I first saw this game on development, I really thought they're making this game out of love, boy was I wrong. I wont stop you on making fun of me and my choices.
This looks like it could be great if the creators took any criticism.
That would have been nice.
I did try to complete omens but I just gave up cause the level design was just pissing me off.
*So I just went and finished Spark 3*
Spark 3 for the win. But to be serious, Sonic GT, Sonic Robo Blast 2, Project 06 are better 3D Sonic fan projects.
That is next on my list. Play Spark 3.
So, while this fangame has good music, it's got a terrible story, glitches aplenty and you have to abuse the boost to get anywhere?
Sega: "The student has now become the master."
I feel so bad for you, Frank.
It's all good. The video is up and I can move on from this.
@@GottaBeFrank shut up child
I personally wished the story was more fleshed out and longer. The way the story went wasn't enough for me. Also I'm surprised they miss a meterex
15:59 sonic was so done with the game that he just straight up _vanished_
they really sat there and thought that omen line was hard
The line went harder as a video title.
@@GottaBeFrank How do you feel about your video from a year ago predicting the “Consider this your bad omen” line?
I already hated a lot of Omens' design choices in terms of gameplay, controls and level design when I played the previous episodes or demos of it, so seeing how the full game is somehow even worse is simply pathetic to me. At least, I get to spare myself from dealing with even more horrific and messy game design from this fan game.
Soni X gets mentioned: *We don't speak of that anymore*
How dare they give Chip a Charmy impression for a voice. I'm insulted, why they gotta do Unleashed rep like this bruh?
It was corny but for the last scene it was actually a little bit charming.
This feels like a game made to look cool in a UA-cam video and not actually be played
I think you can change the sensitivity of the tornado camera movement, not sure tho but it's worth looking into. As for united railroad, you're supposed to use chaos control to slow down time and get by the fast moving floors. As for chaos dash, it can be used to move upwards without aiming if you hold jump and activate chaos dash.
1 year late but wanted to note two things. You can change the sensitivity but when we're talking controllers? It's still pretty lackluster and stiff. Basically if you're gonna play the Tornado segments, you must use keyboard and mouse in order to have the manueverability. As for United Railroad? The problem with that segment is that they don't properly signpost to you that you can do that. You're just expected to go "Oh moving floors, better use Chaos Control." and for the record, the tutorial only shows you can do this because otherwise, timing your jumps is more than enough to get through the one segment in Shadow's first level and timing a boost and potentially a jump is fine enough to get through the floor section and the thing is? It would've been so easy for just an audio cue or even a little visual hint to suggest using it.
And this is what happens when the dark side of the Sonic fanbase tries to make a fangame. Seriously, all the drama was bad enough, but that AND their game being awful just adds insult to injury. Give Forces credit. At least it had great ideas, good voice acting, and competent level design. Guess we can’t expect every Sonic fan project to be the Sonic Mania. Screw the dev team and their game. Go play Spark the Electric Jester 3.
It would not take much to make the game somewhat good, but since they sh*t on feedback and useful well-mannered criticism they refuse to...
Yeah. Plus, I'm hearing they chose to finish the game out of spite. If that's the case, they can enjoy the criticism they receive.
@@GottaBeFrank Woah really? They should have stayed at least quiet about that...
I can't believe someone referenced the Metarex in a fan game. Also the subject of the music proves an age-old point: Sonic games may not always be good, but they'll ALWAYS have killer music; even fan games it seems!
when i first played the demo, probably like a year ago, i thought i was just really bad at the game. No matter what I did, I couldn't get passed the first boss. 1 Year later the full game came out and you made a video on it. I was surprised that this game was hated because mostly everyone who played the game were screaming "SEGA, HIRE THIS MAN". So i watched the video... now i feel a lot better about myself :)
I love how even this fan game refuses to make Tails playable in anything that isn't a vehicle. I swear, must be a curse or something.
Somehow, some people really love this game and says it's better than anything Sega ever made. I think they didn't actually play this game and made their judgments based on what they saw, or they have a huge hate boner for Sega and so made these biased opinions...
Just copage really
It's such a shame that a Sonic fan game did so bad because they're usually do passionate about their projects.
The story is _, the gameplay is _, the voices are ok, the custcenese are _, the level design is _, oh the graphics are pretty aight
But then the controversy, aw man I give up
I fail to understand how someone can ruin a Super Sonic final boss, and why can't he fly
Maybe that plane phases were enough to developers.
I love how they made a document to refute a lot of the claims made against them and didn't even refute the most damning ones, or at the very least the evidence they presented was some of the worst I think I've ever seen. I didn't play the game that much so I didn't really care about the whole "stolen music" or anything along those lines and they did refute that (though don't take their word as gospel they're obviously gonna defend themselves), however my main gripes were them being dicks, the whole Maria thing, and them trying to profit off of an IP that isn't theirs.
Firstly, they absolutely knew what they were doing when they put this game on their patreon. "It was a long time ago and we apologized for it" isn't an excuse. And yes, obviously SEGA wouldn't find anything incriminating on your Twitter or patron if you've ALREADY DELETED IT.
Second, Idgaf that a Ukrainian Woman made the Maria underwear model. That's almost exactly like defending a rapist because they're a woman. So what if she's a woman OR a Ukrainian? Also, saying that it's a "joke about stuff she saw in her past" ISNT A CREDIBLE DEFENSE! "Your honor the Child Pornography was just an inside joke" isn't going to fly with the judge pal.
Finally, people have already said this, but if you're making fun of people who have a mental breakdown because they can't play YOUR broken as hell game then that gives us a glimpse into your true character. Meaning you're shitty people, and being unprofessional and rude to people online doesnt make your case any better. "we're actual people behind the team logo" is about as strong a defense as leaving one person to defend a fortress against an entire army. Its not gonna hold up.
I was already put off of trying it because I don't like how infinity engine feels. This just makes me feel vindicated
There are levels designed well around that engine, but this game didn't do that about halfway through.
"Only play it if you're curious and can tolerate bad level design."
Bruh I'm a Sonic fan, it's part of my resume.
Hmm... I should have reworded that to make it less appealing to Sonic fans as well. Oops.
Bless Noah Copeland for releasing Triple Trouble 16 Bit before this mess. He, John Tay and the rest of the TT16 crew did an amazing job with it
God, this freaking sucks. I was one of the people who really liked this game in terms of the Shadow of Water build, and I was excited for the full thing.
Come to find out that with its completion, this game was one of the most frustrating things I think I've ever played. With how the late game levels play, it's one of the most unfair trial-and-error things I think I've gone through. Everything up to the the monster thing at the end of Shadow of Water was fun for me. Then the rest of it came through. United Railroad was ehhh, strong start, bad finish, but the second Tornado level was absolutely unbearable, having spent 20 minutes in that stage. Metal Ember? Eh.
Meanwhile the final level and boss fight. Screw. Both. Of. Them.
The final level was pain, and the Exiled boss fight?
NO. NEVER AGAIN. The first phase was awful, with the second phase being me letting all my anger and frustration out.
Then the stuff with Ouroboros came out with that Google Doc, and I deleted Omens from my computer. Never touching that game again.
Couldn't agree more man
Now I feel ashamed for even THINKING about the game being good
@@Shadex_Joestar Hey, don't worry. That's in the past and you don't need to even TOUCH it again.
Wow, thanks for playing this game now I don't have to.
Happy to... umm... it was interesting to do this for others.
The fan-game deserves the middle finger, with what has been discovered about it.
What has been discovered? Forgive my ignorance, I'm ootl.
@@memorableman3709 An innuendo hidden in Maria's textures. SHE'S 12!!
@@ChiefMedicPururu B R U H.
I can tell from the tree level and Weeping Rift they take a lot of inspiration from Ori. Some things being basically identical in theme some way or another. Like 10:02, the ‘giant bird’ is basically just a resemblance to Shriek.
Like for earlier in the story, when Tails is carrying Sonic, they brush past a few trees. Branches are disturbed and leaves fly into the air. Just like in WotW’s cutscene when Ku eventually flies. The next scene is also identical, when Tails ascends upwards around the mountain.
I actually think they crossed over the line between “inspiration” and “unoriginal.” Tree Palace and Waterfall Chase basically play like the Ginso Tree from Blind Forest beat for beat. The Gnarl plays almost exactly like the escape sequence from the Windswept Wastes from Will of the Wisps, and Weeping Rift is a 1:1 copy of Weeping Ridge, HELL THE NAME IS WEEPING RIFT. It even has the insta kill giant bird from those games, but even worse since you can dodge them easily in both Ori games.
Eggman having a light Russian accent is surprisingly cool. That's really all I can say about this that's positive.
It's kind of funny that Sega never approved this fan game as one of their. I hope some day one of the fans games become approved by Sega Canon frank.
It will never happen and I think it's better that way.
I would love for SRB2, Fallen star, Sonic 3D in 2d and Triple trouble 16bit to be cannon. They have such iconic zones and music. Its good, if not better then what official sonic provides.
@@GottaBeFrank I agree frank. No matter why Sega was mad at this asking Patron fans for money to fund this project. It's really sad this game is only related to the sonic x franchise and the sad part knuckles isn't playable too
@@jamalsimmons619 The original idea was supposed to be “Why Sonic doesn’t use the chaos emeralds anymore.” When it’s outdated because they’re gonna be playing a pivotal role in Frontiers.
@@brawler5760 and also because um.... *cough cough* the um...emeralds have also existed in colors and lost world. The emeralds never vanished.
If you actually want a game that wont blow up your computer, looks amazing and charming, has great level design , and is genuinely fun, go play Sonic Robo Blast 2.
Or Sonic GT!
@@MarkerMurker or Triple Trouble 16 bit remake
@@kovidarthehedgehog4066 Sure, but I figured this was about 3D games. But yeah, Triple Trouble 16-bit is amazing. Same with Sonic and the Fallen Star. Also Sonic Classic 2, but that one is a little rough around the edges.
Normally I'd say this is a little too harsh for a fan project, but given that they wanted (and to an extent) profited on it it is definitely fair to compare it to a professionally released game
Yeah, when the devs make profit off of their work, you better put that damn money to good use.
Eggman sounded like a Fallout Ghoul
I feel like Sonic Frontiers doesn’t have to try now because Omens was the last Sonic Game, of any kind, to come out.
But, Sonic Frontiers is trying.
9:12 you're supossed to use chaos control for that moment. They also give you the chaos bar item in case it's empty so it's not that bad
Yeah. Maybe the weakest of my examples. I was still pretty annoyed because it is possible to make the jump, but there is a slight gap that messes with my landing.
@@GottaBeFrank yes it's very annoying. I agree. Although i could play this every now and then it has way too many flaws
"beefy PC specs"
Me running this at close to max settings at 60fps with my gaming PC from 2018
Enough about Sonic omens, let's talk about Sonic Mujeres
The game looks nice in certain areas, but when you blow the bloom up to unreasonable extents (like SCU), it can be really overkill in many areas, taking away from the actual details. (It’s ironic that I don’t remember the game’s art style or set pieces as they’re almost nonexistent for the most part.)
This game isn’t all that imo. It doesn’t deserve the unnecessary amount of praise where people call it a “masterpiece”, or “better than SEGA’s official games”, but doesn’t deserve to be overly hated to the point that people attack others that genuinely like the game either. After the drama of the game and what had come out, it makes me not want to play Omens ever again or support the creators for as long as I live.
Edit: I just found out the gameplay hasn’t improved much either, meaning things like optimization issues, glitches, and etc are still in the game, which brings down replay ability in my eyes.
Second edit as of 8/20/22: I played the final release as to see how the game REALLY is without the drama in mind, and hoo boy is it a mixed bag of worms. So I'm gonna mention my experience with this game and what I think of it. (Rant incoming, get ready.)
The level design of the first few stages when you first start the game is the highlight, but when you continue throughout, you'll realize the game is held together with Elmer's glue. Some parts aren't clear on what to do, which can cause the player to take upwards of 15 to potentially higher than 20 minutes to complete the stage (it didn't happen to me much since I knew a bit about the game in and out, but it wasn't fun on a repeat playthrough of stages I already played and the latter ones I haven't touched before).
The plane stages are not great at all, and drag out for far longer than they need to. The controls for them don't feel well polished compared to other games that use airplane physics and when you reach the second Tornado stage, anything that's pink you touch (most likely because Sonic and Tails can't handle being gay), you immediately DIE regardless of how much health you have. (It would have been really great to have a clear indicator to not touch anything pink, but the developers are allergic to giving out proper hints). Also, the bird you gotta dodge at the end of the level has jank hit detection, wonderful. While the final stage before the final boss is nice on paper, it gets obnoxious when there's this section when you have to defeat a horde of Metarex that can not only take away all of your rings, but ALSO your boost gauge.
I haven't even mentioned the graphics of the game, but like I said earlier, the bloom looks nasty when blown up to unreasonable extents (like the bloom on the characters' eyes looking unnatural, or how the bloom makes certain parts of the game look inconsistent to the rest of it). The art direction is pretty bland, and barely existent as Unreal Engine and the Infinity Engine carries how the game looks (and those were prebuilt for crying out loud). It's ironic, a game from 2008 having more interesting art direction than this 💀Did I forget to mention that this game is not well optimized? It's
kinda funny how I can run some stages in a near consistent 50-60 FPS experience, but the cutscenes drop to a capped 30 (and then there's one cutscene that played like a literal slide show)
The bosses on the other hand, is a different story, where it ranges from somewhat acceptable to pretty awful for both newcomers and average players who already played the boost games. I don't want to waste too much time with this, so I'll mention them all as quickly as possible (with the exception of ONE boss). Most of them start out with a really rough loosy arcade-like feel where you have a small margin of error that gradually increases in difficulty as you progress through the game. This wouldn't be as bad if you didn't have to wrestle with a control that ruins the flow for both the entirety of this game and the bosses: the camera.
You have to manually steer the camera with whatever controller you have; whether it be an Xbox styled controller, or a mouse and keyboard (I chose the latter for my own preference). Even with high sensitivity, you'll still have a rough time trying to move the camera as fast as possible trying to watch out for the boss' attacks and plan accordingly since the attacks aren't well telegraphed and don't have a proper cooldown. To sum it up, it's like trying to drive a self automating car that's on cruise control, but you want to take the steering wheel and maneuver to prevent slamming into hazards. (I just realized you can lock the camera on the boss using the TAB key, but why that wasn't told about or obvious before is beyond me.)
The worst final boss in this game would have to be crowed to Dark Oak: Goodwill edition because my GOD was it purely luck based for me to even beat the final boss, especially the phase 2 when the 3 laser attack can't be telegraphed well as it has a higher chance of it hitting you and taking away about 10 to 15 rings (if I recall) and potentially ruin your chances of beating him than you by some miracle managing to beat the fight. The boss was SO bad it made me go mental (and this is coming from someone who S Ranked Eggmanland on the 7th gen version of Sonic Unleashed).
Once I beat the boss by the skin of my teeth, I rolled the end credits, laughed at the Chris tombstone scene, and uninstalled the game. Never again am I touching this.
If you like this game, more power to you. But everyone's experiences with the game are different. If the game is so frustrating that it makes the average player give up right away, that's not a good sign and not a good reason to dismiss critcisim as "sKiLl IsSuE1!1!1!" There are reasons to like this game (the music does kinda slap with the exception of the Cars 2 OST remixed/inspired) and dislike this game (all the above mentioned). But this game in my honest opinion is no masterpiece, and is WAY messier than Sonic 06 or Sonic Boom Rise of Lyric. This is not worthy of the "Sega, hire this man!" mentality, and is not worthy of the best fangame ever made. Graphics can only do a small portion of good to a game that doesn't consistently play well and feel like it's trying to aggravate the player in some goofy way with a blue rat as the main star justice. The replay value is pretty low for this, and is hard for me to recommend anyone that hasn't tried this already to check out. For now, I'm gonna stick with Sonic Triple Trouble: 16 bit, Sonic and the Fallen Star, and Spark 3.
(Alright, my Shark Tank pitch is done, you can go home now.)
One of the problems I have with this game is that it looks like every UE4 game ever. Hence why I roll my eyes every time someone says the game looks good.
Sonic omens could’ve been a good game by actually listening to the people who played the demo, But they clearly didn’t care whatsoever, so.. yeah.. it definitely wasn’t a good game.
Also the fact one of the pillars has a QR code ???????
yup
This video is my introduction to this game, as soon as I heard “Chris from Sonic X” I was like no fucking way, so I’m definitely gonna have to watch this later 😂😂 this is also my introduction to your channel man and I thought the video was pretty cool, can’t wait to see more!
In the Vortex boss fight, I got a glitch in the 2nd phase. The boss was trying to charge up his attack but the game thought he already did that, so he was stuck in a loop and only when i got close he would blow me away, but then still try to charge up his attack.
At first, I thought this game had potential (when it first came out), but then, as I played it, I realised that I was COMPLETELY wrong. Bugs left and right, and a meh storyline (in my opinion of course). It looked pretty good, but I just didn't like the gameplay too much.
Edit: I managed to be one of the first 1,000 on the skillshare thingy, but then I decided that I didn't need it too much, really. I wanted someone else who ACTUALLY needed it to have it, so whoever that person is your welcome 😎😎😎😎😎
Other edit: The subtitle size in Sonic Omens is too small 💀💀💀💀💀
"I Played Sonic Omens So You Don't Have To"
So you mean ppl shouldn't have fun with it?
It's just a title for a review.
honestly this is some really good critic, and hopefully the developers of sonic omens take this video into consideration and apply it to the game, it does have potential and the gameplay visuals as well as cutscenes don't look half bad whatsoever, however as you've stated it needs some work, which is why they should've has QA testers before releasing it to the public
Not sure if they'll take this video into consideration, but if they do, then that'll be pretty cool.
@@GottaBeFrank apparently they are updating the game
ua-cam.com/video/0W5yXvdPw9o/v-deo.html
That's neat. I wont be taking any more looks at the game. I've said what I've needed to in this video and I have no interest in playing or covering the game anymore.
For the dissapearing floor, you are meant to chaos control your way there. It even gives you a chaos jar
So Shadow's whole deal is basically the same as Kratos in G.O.W 1
> Chris Thorndyke
say no more, friend, this fangame is automatically trash
9:39 I thought that too for a moment but these chaos capsules things respawn! It’s just hard to notice