The (Simplified) Sonic The Hedgehog Timeline | The Leaderboard
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- Опубліковано 12 вер 2019
- Sonic The Hedgehog is a gaming icon, with so many hit games and even a Sonic movie on the way there is no slowing down for this blue hedgehog. So join The Leaderboard as we run through all it in The complete Sonic timeline.
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Sonic The Hedgehog is one of gamings biggest icon and has a legacy of amazing games from the original Sonic The Hedgehog, Sonic Adventures 1 and Sonic Adventure 2, plus so many more. Sonic is even speeding his way on to the big screen in the Sonic the Hedgehog movie. So join The Leaderboard as we bring you the complete Sonic timeline. We will explore Sonic the Hedgehog 1 through 3, both Sonic Adventure games, Sonic Heros, Sonic 06, Sonic Generations, and Sonic forces.
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For those of you wondering where certain game are, we explain it at 25:43! If you wanna see a deeper dive into the Sonic Timeline, we can definitely piece together an absolutely complete version, including all of Sonic Team's games! Let us know in the comments below. Also, what do you guys prefer 2D or 3D Sonic?
I prefer 3d.
Also....when are u gonna tell us how the sonic COMICS and games tie together to make '2 timelines' gonna love that
‘Tis be a noble effort, but this video is more complete: ua-cam.com/video/ubhjoxxT4P8/v-deo.html (and as a part 2)
Both
I happen to like both 2D and 3D versions of Sonic.
23:24 Aren't we going to talk about Sonic Mania? ....No? ...Ok then...
“He encounters Mecha Sonic, not to be confused with Metal Sonic.”
*proceeds to not even talk about Metal Sonic’s debut game, Sonic CD despite being canon.*
not to mention that mania ties into the classic timeline and is why classic sonic meets modern sonic a 2nd time....
He mentions it at the end though.
Should we also acknowledge the fact that the robot in Sonic 2 is actually Silver Sonic and not Mecha or Metal Sonic?
IKR,
I was like where is sonic CD????
But sonic mania conclusion ends up with sonic going into a portal and by the time he is out of the portal boom! He saves tails and joins the force to stop evil!
"Did they ever fix the moon?"
*Those type of questions make people go missing.*
Exact 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
pretty sure the explanation from sega of europe was “it turned to the other side” or something like that
The sonic x anime explains this eggman fixes it to put it in front of the moon so he can hypnotize people with light orbs
@@realepicaaron3326 BUT THE MOON PHYSICALLY CAN´T JUST TURN TO THE OTHER SIDE CRHBKHBCRKVHCR sonic team u silly billy
"Finally Sonic kicks Shadow's ass, Tails beats Eggman's ass and they stop the eclipse cannon effectively kicking its ass"
favorite quote of all time
From an innocent game to a hedgehog with guns! What a world we live in…
Mario talking about the Sonic timeline.
He has disguised himself
@@sebastianfontanez1081 You're not wrong: the shirt I picked was a deliberate choice since it had some Sonic blues/whites and a dash of golden yellow for rings.
Fun little easter egg for ya. ;)
Also, thank you for calling this out! I almost did a totally different intro to make a gag out of that fact, but seeing this is WAY more satisfying. :D
I WAS GOING TO COMMENT THAT!!!
WHY ARE YOU HERE
The only part of 06’ that’s really canon is establishing Silver as a time cop to be a reoccurring character so he and Blaze can come back for the olympics, and just Silver for forces.
Well Blaze is supposed to be from another Dimension
What about Crisis City in Generations?
Why are you so intelligent my friend
Oofer part 8:50
Then there's sonic rush and sonic rush adventure being blaze's debut on the Nintendo ds
I still love the Shadow saga (SA2, SH, Shadow the Hedgehog) and REALLY hope the third movie does him justice, especially given people working on it worked in those games. Also, I may be a Nintendo kid first but his time on the GameCube blurred the 90s console war battle lines enough that it doesn't matter these days
my dad plays sonic but doesn't know about the storyline, so I'm searching for a simplified version for him to understand my love with shadow and silver
So random and this comment is so old but I really like your Jaden Yuki pfp :)
@@whiteroses560 lmfaoo thanks for making me remember this, i used to be so hyperfixated on sonic but that hyperfixation drifted to yugioh gx like last year XD glad to see another fellow gx fan :D
I don’t know where Robotnik gets all his funding from.
ua-cam.com/video/xUDMvkWbNfM/v-deo.html
The million dollar question...lol
Because he’s batman.
"Don't you ever wonder where your tax dollars go?"
Throughout the Series it is known that Eggman holds Several assets:
- Doctor-Title
- Global Enterprise
- Casinos
- Oil Fields
- Robot Armies
Its wouldn't surprise me if we would find out he is one of the most wealthiest people on Mobius.
The comics actually do a pretty good job of connecting all the games, also address inconsistencies by introducing a multiverse.
Sonic absorbs the chaos emeralds when he becomes super
He absorbs the *power* of the chaos emeralds
The Sonic series running on multiverse theory helps me organize things. Plus, we're getting that Sonic Villains fan-film out of it, so that'll be cool.
I have doubts if "introducing a multiverse" would be doing a good job here... I mean it can be done right but at the same time it seems to me that it's usually just a lazy solution which isn't better on solving problems than on causing them...
"Pretty good job conecting all the games" super Genesis wave everytime?
I still insist that he puts them up his butt
Gotta love the original classic sonic games, but for me the two Sonic Adventure games and Sonic Heroes will ALWAYS ALWAYS be my absolute favorite sonic games of all time.
Classic Sonic leaving in forces be like : change da world, my final message
*Goodbye*
Edit: How did this get 46 likes .
Second edit: what. The actual. *FU-*
this deserves a lot more than four likes
Sonic Mania Adventure
Sonic: *BONJOUR*
@Super Mario Michael 2
Do you think that Sonic Mania and Sonic Force's is canon?
lmao
69 likes
Mario: All hedgehogs look the same.
*THATS SPECIST*
he IS mario
Actually... that would be racist.... since hedgehogs are a different race than humans
Though...under the right light, yes they look the same. But... yeah... though he was pissed because 9/10 his mind said: How the hell.
@@Jrock24cantbebeat "WOW BRO!"
;D
@@user-dx8nl9qm9d it’d be speciesist
Sonic 06 sounds like something out of a kingdom hearts game.
Mephiles would be an amazing Kingdom Hearts Villain
I mean they do take down an overpowered dimensional God so yeah.
Well, at least Kingdom Hearts has emotion and doesn’t take itself way too seriously.
@@Gemnist98 OI, Don’t diss Sonic 06 Shadow. He was written perfectly
@@phoenixablaze166 Well, that’s because Shadow is a character who’s meant to be taken too seriously.
*[When you saw the movie but never actually played any sonic game and want to know more]*
i have watched sonic games lol
@@fwfusion7 That's an option too. Xd
@@hanthemaa Right now I think I got to know everything from comics to animes... within two months. But I still don't know the right order of the canon games is. Could you tell it to me if you know it?
You NEVER PLAYED A SONIC GAME??!! *faints and dies from suprise*
R.I.P. to myself
@@amosthescrewball3240 ikr it took me real long to get into sonic. Hope I'll bring you back to live by telling you I already played some of the games.
As a person who's played just about every sonic videogame out there this timeline video was something I never knew I needed.
Sees 10:47
My mind:"I'm pissing on the Moon!!!"
How do you like that Obama!
@@novella7735 I pissed on the mooooon you ediet !!!!!
Me too haha😅😊🥰👍💯
Crispy Cookies Exactly xD I can't help it
DEFCON ZERO I love how he managed to roll the whole word droplets
The canon stories you missed are Sonic CD and Sonic Mania
Cd is too complicated, mania is a remake, theres no point. Unless we are talking about encore mode from plus in which case sure.
chungo boi well yes but actually no
@@randyofficial3614 oh yeah good point
Exactly what I was saying!
@@jomppidev1845 mania happens after generations when sonic goes back to his timeline. Then classic eggman finds the phantom ruby uses it to go back in time to iconic and new zones. During that sonic finds the chaos emeralds and fights a big metal sonic and other stuff. He finds eggman in some robot spider. Sonic beats it then the phantom ruby sends him to a dimension with a three way battle between king boiled heavy. (The leader of the boiled heavies) and eggman. (Eggman uses the phantom ruby on 6 or 7 regular badniks at the start of the game on them and that's how they become the boiled heavies) sonic is in the 3 way battle too. He defeats them both as super sonic. The phantom ruby goes haywire, returning sonic into his base form then sending the chaos emeralds away then sending sonic into a portal with the phantom ruby. Sonic goes into forces and modern eggman finds the phantom ruby and then the rest of forces story happens
Honestly this was already helpful, thank you. I would watch a movie in depth video on the lore, but this works just fine, thank you.
Idk why everyone hate 06 so much,yes,the game was awfully hurried up and i personally HATE controls,you get killed most times because of glitching,but the storyline itself is pretty interesting exactly because its so complex,only the ending is a bit eh to me,really unnecessary losing memories and stuff,i think multiple timelines stuff is rly cool thing to dive in
Think you just said why everyone hates it
Same but I do get the part where people complain about the gameplay not being the best with all the glitches but the actually story itself was a pretty interesting concept I liked
I always loved that the original series had different versions of robotic Sonic, demonstrating that Robotnik has been learning from his battles with him how to better replicate his abilities.
"Because apparently all hedgehogs look alike?!"
That is the face of a man broken by to many racist video game tropes
Even Amy mistook Shadow for Sonic how you going to be in love with Sonic and not know what color Sonic is! 😂
aparently in Sonic blue and black and red are the same color? aswell as green and red.... and... alot of other things are the same in that universe if they are being confused for one another
Maybe they’re literally color blind, though I’m not sure how this would work for things like the Chaos Emeralds and other color-coded nonsense lol. It’s just a really, really stupid oversight.
It's not racist if it's also true.
*too many
As a lifelong superfan of Sonic, this was great. I started with Sonic 2, getting to the level of "Super Sonic by Zone 2, ridiculous speedrun finish" levels, and once Sonic 3 came out, I knew I was hooked. Haven't played much of the newer games, but Sonic is still a hero to me, Tails is still a beloved sidekick, and blue(cerulean blue) is still my fanatically favorite colour.
Just like with eating pizza.....I just say "I loved watching TMNT too much as a kid." 😁
SA is the greatest installment of Sonic games for me, so many great memories playing as a kid.
>Skips Sonic CD
Ight, imma head out.
At the end he predicted you
He skipped sonic mania😓 it was the classic time line right before sonic forces
SeatSlippinNEET exactly like he went straight to adventure and forgot Metal Sonic one of the best villains lowkey wtf
You should have said "I'm outta here" cause that's what he says when you stay still for too long in the game
Honestly sonic cd is simple. Sonic cd is to save any and stop eggman, tails stops eggman and save Taylor and knuckles is getting his sandwich back
Me : casually watching the video
Video : _reaches the "shadow the hedgehog" part_
Me : *screams internally*
that game was a disappointment
The story isn't that bad
@@xisioff7144 mhm, same for 06, best story is shadows btw
@@lilAndrix not for me
Technically the classic games are a separate timeline and part of the modern timeline, like in Sonic Adventure there is a line where Sonic says that Eggman tricked Knuckles again. Also in Sonic Generations, Sonic and Tails both find the classic stages from the first three games too. Besides those little details, this video is great! 👍🏻
17:28 bro really tried to sneak that light reference past us
I stopped playing Sonic for a few years now, but this blue hedgehog has always been part of me. It's good to know how the timeline works!
The timelines aren’t “classic” & “modern” tho. The modern games take place directly after the classic games And they didn’t mention Sonic CD, Amy & Metal Sonic’s first game. A second timeline happens after classic sonic meets modern sonic in Sonic Generations, where the timeline splits thanks to time travel and leads into Sonic Mania, Sonic Forces (classic Sonic) & Sonic Mania Plus.
*Jim Carrey:* P I N G A S
*Me:* _Carefully, he's truly a hero..._
Found you!
Oh....SMG4 memes :D
Going back to the whole Sonic Forces event near the end, I've always thought that SEGA should've pulled a "Minecraft: Story Mode" and still have given the Avatar character a gender-neutral name like "Buddy" or "Rook" and an actual voice with lines and such, each voice would depend on what gender and what voice pitch/tone you have chosen for your avatar (again, ALOT like what Minecraft: Story Mode did with Jesse). I feel like it would've given the story more depth and let us get to know our avatar even more. Wouldn't you agree?
Agreed, although I am one year late.
Wow. Shadow’s storyline is dark af. I’m excited for Sonic 3 film!
How you gonna skip CD ?
THAT WAS BEFORE 2
Actually, they retconned that and made it take place after Sonic 3 and kunckles so that it could be used as a prequel to Sonic 4. Sonic Mania takes place after CD.
@@Lyric061791 no they didn't retcon it
they just revisited later for sonic 4 and mania
@@HenshinAcademy I may be misremembering, but I remember the developers of sonic 4 stating that they made Sonic CD take place after Sonic 3 Saga because they weren't sure of where to put it. It was part of the reason Tails was added to the game in the XBLA and phone ports. I may have to do some digging though.
Christain Whitehead stated cd before 2
Hence why 1 and cd play similar and how 3k takes place directly after cd
Plus even if cd is a so called prequel doesn't mean it can't be placed before 2
@Non-Ugandan Knuckles The sonic Archie Comics aren't canon to the games
10:48 Eggman shows the world how big his junk was by pissing on the moon
why not?
AND YOU BETTER EVACUATE BEFOR E HIS PISS DROPLETS HIT THE *EARTH*
Lol what
@@issuehigh Those one famous SA fan dub
Why
Does anyone else agree that a better storyline feature for Sonic lost worlds would be that robotnik really died, and after the adventure Sonic gets the help of Silver to time travel to rescue Eggman, in return for literally saving sonic’s life?
9:10
"MY SUPER LAZER PISS"
Classic and modern are the same timeline. “Knuckles! Don’t tell me you’ve been tricked AGAIN.”
thats sort of true but not really. since generations explicitly states that they're different versions, yet adventure acts as if sonic 1, 2, 3+K, and cd all still happened, the best explanation is that all the events from the classic timeline still happen in the modern timeline off screen. the creators wanted to build off of the lore and maintain past relationships and characters, and remaking those games just to put a new modern sprite in is a stupid idea. so they just made the timeline split to justify both. this is supported by the 3D green hill zone in SA2B existing in the modern timeline with slight differences to it since its 3D. the small differences is what solidifies them as seperate as well.
@@iamlordapollo I was always under the impression it was one timeline, with the different character designs simply being a change of art style. Generations even makes it clear that 'Classic Sonic' is just Sonic as a child. It's only in Forces that the implication comes that they're different characters, specifically when Tails refers to him as "that Sonic from another dimension". I wouldn't be too surprised to find out that was either a mistranslation or simply poor choice of wording either
@@liamstringer3978 your are correct about generations and forces referring to classic in different ways that appear to contradict each other. I think we can all agree that this change was a result of both sides of the elitist fandoms displeasure at linking the two Sonic's together as the same character, and forces establishing them as different was a hasty patch job. What you are describing is actually how I came to the conclusion stated above. If classic is from a different "dimension" but is also Sonic as a child, we have no choice but to accept both facts as true since they come from Canon material. Therefore the only logical conclusion is that modern Sonic as a child had all the same adventures as classic, they just weren't on screen. And we're prob 3d lol
Edit: I also think it was originally intended to be one timeline, but as time went on, the difference between them became so vast that it stopped making sense, and making them two different characters was the easy solution.
@@iamlordapollo that makes sense. You have to wonder how they managed to make the timeline for the adventures of a cartoon hedgehog so bloody complicated! 😂
@@liamstringer3978 I'm with ya there my friend. If mania 2 comes out and references any of the modern games other than forces all bets are off. My hypothesis is purely based on taking the evidence given to it's natural conclusion since there is no hard proof until we see a younger modern Sonic in chemical plant zone or something. I think converting the original trilogy into 3d would be an awesome prequel game. Green Hill zone in SA2B was janky, but it supports my theory that the two Sonics exist independently while still having similar adventures. If I had to guess, id say the timeline splits after S3&K. Modern goes on to adventure 1, and classic goes to 4 and mania. In fact, I haven't played them, but maybe the advance games shed some light on the subject?
Just gonna throw this out there:
Sonic Riders
Well I forgot that existed until now
As far as i know - Sonic Riders series is not canon. It is kinda modern (because of it's style) but it's not in modern canon. I dunno if that makes sense what i just said xD
God bless
Just gonna throw this out there:
No
well, all sonic stories are almost self contain, so everything can fit.
hmm, maybe, now that I think about it, it's not canon because of nights and aiai are there?, silver is in the game too but that just means more time travel.
I havnt touched sonic in over a decade besides the movie and when you said it gets weirder I was actually shocked. This is nutty
"Lord knows, I'm still jamming to the Saturday AM theme even as a grown-ass adult..."
*wipes a tear*
I feel so seen... ;-;
Cooooooooooolll
Edit: Now I'm not confused
buuut you skipped Sonic Cd
No matter where they place it people will get mad
And mania!!
Pretty sure it goes 1, CD, 2, 3, Mania(?), etc
Talon Stephensen yep that’s correct
@Non-Ugandan Knuckles Thanks for the info, man
what sonic hears: CHAOS CONTROL!!!
what i hear: BADASS TIME FREEZE!!!
What i hear: B-TECH ZA WARUDO!
What my mum hears: BLAH BLAH BLAH!!
ZA WARUDO! TOKI YO TOMARE!
@@Quinnsicott lol
THE WORLD! ZA WARUDO!
I like how this guys called Mario and he's covering Sonic
has anyone else ever realized that in modern sonic games you always collect the green chaos emerald first
Yeah it's kinda awkward ignoring Sonic CD when there's Amy and Metal Sonic.
I finally got Sonic CD on Steam. Can't believe I overlooked it. It's got a storyline that intrigues me. Plus, I like Amy so I can learn how they met and how she formed a one-sided crush on Sonic.
I love Sonic Unleashed. I know a lot of ppl didn't, but it was still a good game. It was a refreshing twist.
Still the best sonic game for me .
@@lam99up74 better than Sonic 3? 😂
@@harrydavey9884 OH YEAH 😂
We need a game where sonic, silver, and shadow are all playable like sonic heroes but egg man accidentally creates a superhuman hedgehog using the chaos emeralds and sonic, silver, and shadow’s dna and chaos is his sidekick and the trio goes to defeat him.
This is the classic sonic canon:
Sonic stops Robotnik on south Island. He later meets Amy Rose and the events of sonic CD happen. Sonic then goes to west side island, meets Tails, and explodes the death egg. After, Sonic and Tails see that an island has fallen out of the sky. They rush there with the chaos emeralds but get intercepted by Knuckles. Sonic eventually befriends Knuckles and crashes the death egg once more. In the future, eggman conspires with robotnik and classic sonic and modern sonic meet, creating the split we know today. When classic sonic comes back, the events of mania happen. After battling the hard boiled heavies, Classic sonic is teleported to modern sonic’s world to defeat eggman. When he comes back again, he finds mighty and ray on angel island and defeat the hard boiled heavies once more.
Oh, so the classic games take place in a different timeline. Riiiiiight. Never mind the fact that Sonic Adventure references both Sonic 3 & Knuckles and Sonic CD.
Oh, and to answer your question, they do fix the moon. You can clearly see the moon, intact, near the end of Sonic Colors, but it's never explained when or how it was fixed. (Although, it is explained in the Sonic X anime) It's likely that SEGA simply forgot it was broken.
well...
+Ultimate Gamer
Two worlds is a blatant shoehorned retcon. Before Sonic Forces, it was NEVER implied that Sonic lived on a different planet once the Japanese continuity was established as the standard continuity. Sega of Japan had EVERY intention to erase the American continuity; which includes Mobius.
The earlier 3D games made occasional references that implied that the events of the 2D games happened on Earth. Sonic himself was stated to be from Christmas Island in the Japanese continuity; said island is on Earth.
+Knuckles
"Then Sonic Adventure has Sonic on a planet of humans, without an explanation"
Which should be a big give away the games were always intended to take place on Earth (until Forces's retcon, of course). Little Planet is even referenced outside of Amy's flashback; by a random human, in the Japanese version; as if it was a part of Earth.
The problem with trying to use Sonic X as a fill-in-gap is that they had to change some details just to fit the concept of two worlds in THAT continuity (let alone things that are never mentioned outside of Sonic X; like the Egg Fort and Sonic racing against formula cars). The fact he was intended to have Madonna as a human girlfriend; until Sega of America shot down the idea, suggests humans were always intended to live alongside Sonic's species.
The early Dic cartoons were based on the american continuity; meaning they took place on Mobius. Back when the American continuity was considered canon to the North American versions of the games. Said American continuity was eventually exiled.
Planet Freedom is implied to be a future version of Earth. As in they used to live on the ground; potentially alongside humans, and then moved to the islands in the sky.
Some of the manga is probably no longer canon or wasn't intended to be canon to the games; especially the one with the early version of Amy Rose.
Sonic Boom is its own continuity. The fact there aren't many humans in that continuity may have been partially influenced by people complaining about humans existing alongside Sonic (Chris Thorndyke and Elise really provided fuel for those complaints).
IDW Sonic has mandates slapped all over it; Sega even has a tighter grip on IDW Sonic than they did with Archie Sonic. If the comic writers are required to promote Ilzuka's two worlds retcon, then they don't have much of a choice in the manner. The sonic movie seems like it is desperately trying to make it look like Yuji Naka himself planned for two worlds to exist in the Sonic games or at the very least attempt to justify the sloppy retcon; despite the earlier games going against that idea. It doesn't help Sonic seems a bit out of character in the first movie trailer; suddenly no longer caring about property damage; even though he likely holds his speed back in the games because of that.
Archie Sonic was originally based on the Sonic SatAm universe. The SatAm elements were gradually reduced over time; with the writers introducing the idea of Mobius being future Earth. With there being alternate reality versions of the planet (Anti-Sonic; eventually Scourge, being from one of those alternate worlds. Also with Robo Robotnik; who becomes modern Eggman). Ironically, Mobius's name was eventually stricken from the comics towards the end and was reduced to just being "Sonic's world". The light reboot further required the writers to make Archie Sonic more akin to the games.
In an SXSW panel last year i think they were asked this question by a fan he said ''in sonic adventure 2 the moon was destroyed in half so why at the beginning of the shadow the hedgehog opening the moon is still intact'' they would use the excuse that the moon was just facing the other direction but when they were live I think Takashi Iizuka was under pressure and simply stated that the team overlooked it. take what i say with a grain of salt but thats what i heard
didnt someone say that the moon just rotated even though that's impossible because it spins with the same time it rotates...
Sonic Adventure 2 is my favorite game of all time. I love the treasure hunting, especially in space. Treasure hunting in space really made me love astronomy and rekindled my love for the stars!
Mine too.
I’m currently playing sonic adventure, sonic adventure 2, sonic generation and I don’t think I’ve ever sworn so much 🤣 I think if I was a character I’d want to be , I would be rouge. Great synopsis for sonic and the games. Congrats
If you guys are wondering about sonic mania, it happens right before sonic forces. After Classic Sonic destroys Eggman, he goes into a portal with Classic Tails and Classic Knuckles waiting for him outside the deathegg (this is why you don’t see them in forces) which leads the end of the game as a cliffhanger but it continues when you see him in Forces.
Sonic Colors: "Tails is under mind control! Oh, no! Will Sonic have to fight his best friend!? Nope. He gets better immediately, and it's like it never happened."
Sonic Lost World: "Tails has been turned into a mech! Oh, no! Will Sonic have to--nope. He gets better immediately, and it's like it never happened."
Character regression at it's finest.
You just don’t understand the power of friendship
“Then there’s team Chaotix they’re just trying to pay rent”
Me: wow
12:46 shadow is trying to figure out what the hell is going on
I love that his name is mario and is covering sonic games
Having a character called "Dr. Pickle" in a Sonic game must have been really hard on Chris Chan.
When a person's name is Mario and talks about Sonic.
Me: Balanced, as all things should be
I love how you're trying to not lose it.
10:11 you good bro you good
16:45 His name is Memphis Tennessee, sir
And you will respect his name
The Moon is explained as "we're seeing the half that didn't get blown up", as in the Moon rotated 90 Degrees so that we see the moon's full shape despite losing it's other half.
17:49 lmao I’ve never thought of it like that XD
I like to believe that Sonic Boom takes place in the far past, where all the characters are the ancestors.
Missing Sonic CD is unacceptable when it comes to a Sonic the Hedgehog timeline. Why? Because you're missing;
1 - Sonic's first time traveling adventure.
2 - Introduction of Amy Rose.
3 - Introduction of Metal Sonic.
4 - Introduction of Little Planet that appears one month out of the year over Never Lake (I mean for goodness sake, one of the first games you can play Metal Sonic for several Acts takes place on this planet).
5 - Introduction of Time Stones (and the only VG appearance of them as Sonic doesn't need to use them in Sonic 4 nor in Mania).
* Irreverent to the timeline * - The first Sonic game ( *Correct me if I'm wrong* ) that has two different sound tracks.
I'm sure there's more in Sonic CD that are a first in the timeline. Then not piecing in Mania for a Sept. 2019 video? Come on.
Sonic cd is canon because this is the first game amy rose came from. Sonic mania and forces came after sonic cd and sonic 3. Sonic and knuckles would connect to sonic adventure. The guy who made this video has alot to learn about sonic. Judging from his reactions to the story, he probably knows sonic initially from sonic adventure.
Sorry bruhs, the comics show that classic and modern sonic are from different dimensions. The "Amy Rose" that makes its first appearance in Sonic CD is acually named Rosy. The Sonic the hedgehog comics even show her and Amy as two characters on the cover of issue 194.
@@criticalsausage Rosy the Rascal is Amy Rose's nickname from back in Sonic CD (game canon). That is completely unrelated to the "Anti Amy/Rosy the Rascal" in issue 194. That's the Archie comic's addition to the Sonic Universe. Sonic Team had no mention of this anti-Amy this whooooole time and she's only been a thing since that issue came out in, what, 2007? Speaking solely of Archie comic adaptions, In Issue 25, it's clear as day that Amy was the one on the island looking for Sonic, and she's the one who was kidnapped by Metal. If it was Anti-Amy/Rosy the Rascal in CD, she wouldn't have been running after Sonic with loving eyes, she would have been chasing him with a hammer trying to attack him.
@@kwbalance108 the games themselves mention that classic sonic is sonic from a different dimension though
@@criticalsausage I agree with you on that, trust me. It's clear that after Sonic Adventures 2, a whole new dimension is shown..then Sonic Generations came out and showed it as well. I just don't agree that Sonic CD shouldn't be part of this video and the fact that Anti-Amy is just a new addition, but is Amy in Sonic CD is *not* Anti-Amy.
Technically, Sonic is the iblis trigger. He died causing Elise to cry.
@Norbin's gaming channel Sonic was the trigger Mephiles pulled the trigger
@Super Mario Michael 2 nah
Sonic was the bullet mephiles was the gun
@@altr1k that's poetic, man
You yourself, Make this video unenjoyable
In the 90s we never called him Eggman ever
DR ROBOTNIK
It's not the CHAOS emeralds that keep Angel Island in the air, it's the MASTER emerald.
My teacher wanted me to do a presentation over sonic, and it’s due tomorrow so this will help a lot, thank you man
How did it go
Lucky I wish my teacher had me do that
answer, we want to know what happened !
Bruh I lucky . I want to do that too :
Presentation on games? You're lucky
16:01.classic bowser move that killed meh
Thanks for this I’ve been tryna to figure out the timeline of sonic because all I know is the games and tv shows but I could never fully understand where each character came from
The Shadow the hedgehog game seems like it was a classic and revolutionary game. I’ve never heard of it having choices and multiples endings
Yo the host here is hilarious lmao. Great video
Sonic 2 movie is awesome!!! brings back my childhood
The fact of knuckles being gullible in the sonic games makes sense when you watch sonic boom
Did they ever fix the moon?
Well yes but actually no.
ShadowTheSanta it was revealed in later games that the gravity of the moon forced the other side to begin facing earth. Which is still bullshit because the moon revolves and we see both sides of it regularly, and the dark side of the moon is simply a myth.
Having read Archie Sonic w/o playing the games, it's nice comparing the release of these games to arcs during the run
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Is no one going to talk about the irony of the guy’s name? His name is Mario Bueno which is literally “Mario Good” in Spanish
TheTurtleKid so?
It’s a sonic video
I like how I got a sega ad before the video it knew and I love it
That's kind of amazing! :D
GeNeiSeS DoSe
Claims to like Sonic and understand the story, proceeds to make fun of every game and every character.
no one gonna mention the irony of a guy named _Mario_ talking about the history of Sonic?
15:09 when i first beat the game, i thought this meant he was saying goodbye to his old self and can now move on
it is what it means
Forgot to mention Tails learning to use his tails to go faster and keep up with Sonic in the early days.
So about the story book games its actually confirmed in canon if you remember a scene in sonic generations sonic talks to tails about the worlds in the void (towards the beginning of the game) he metions how this wasnt like old adventures in which one of them he mentions a genie which lightly confirms he fought erazor djinn which as you know is the bad guy in the secret rings which also confirms the black knight game to be canon seeing as how satbk is the sequel to satsr
sonic fans: so whats cannon
sonic twitter: everything is cannon
sonic fans: ...
Police: Sees shadow
Also police: It'S SoNIc!1!111!
“Sonic Generations is a game about trying to go back to Sonic’s time after Eggman took away the day he was born”
Wait is this plot just a rip-off of Shrek Forever After?
No. I don't know I never saw that movie
Shockerlighting 224 you should.
@@sophiabutler1707 ok
@@guy1774 it was better than the third one
"By blowing up half of the moon"
My brain: "By pissing on the moon"
"Because, apparently, all hedgehogs look the same"
*Proceeds to blow up every building dedicated to Sega*
Lmfaoo ultimate irony: a dude named Mario reviewing the timeline of Sonic😂
Timeline:
Sonic the Hedgehog (1991) - Sonic's Beginnings. Eggman was Robotnik
Sonic CD - Introduces Amy Rose and Metal Sonic. Came out after Sonic 2, but takes place before Sonic 2
Sonic the Hedgehog 2 - Super Sonic and Tails are introduce
Sonic the Hedgehog 3 & Knuckles - Master Emerald, Angel Island and Knuckles are introduce
(Sonic 3D Blast and Knuckles Chaotix) - Flickies and the Chaotix enter
Sonic Adventure - Tikal, Big, Chaos, and Chao. Learn a bit of Knuckles past. Robotnik becomes Eggman.
(Sonic Advance 1-2) Cream and Cheese
Sonic Adventure 2 - Shadow, Rouge, Gerald Robotnik, Maria introduce. Shadow "dies."
Sonic Heroes- Chaotix comback, Shadow is alive with amnesia (doesn't care) , Omega is introduced, and Metal Sonic is villian
(Sonic Battle) - Gerald Robotnik journals are in this game. Gizoid Emerl is introduced. Also Shadow is sick in this game.
(Sonic Advance 3) G-merl is here
Shadow The Hedgehog - Shadow cares about amnesia. Black arm aliens are introduced. Shadow learns Black doom is his daddy
Sonic Rush- Blaze and Eggman Nega are introduced (from another dimension) along with Sol Emeralds
Sonic 06* (Sonic visited Soleanna because he heard the food is good) - Sliver's here
(Sonic Rivals) - Silver comes back
(Sonic Rush Adventure) - Sonic and Tails go to Blaze's dimension
Sonic Unleashed - Sonic's planet is destroyed and sonic becomes wolfy hedgy during night.
Sonic Colors - Wisps are here. Eggman makes theme park on Wisp planets.
Sonic Generations - Eggman messes up timeline with the Time eater. Meet classic Sonic and Tails who is also from another dimension?
Sonic Lost world - Zeti are here. Also there's a moble game that explains why whisps are on sonic's planet now.
Sonic Mania - Phantom Ruby is introduce. Explains why classic Sonic is in Forces. Other classic Sonic characters come back, like Mighty from Knuckles Chaotix.
Sonic Forces - Infinite and your OC is Introduce.
You forgot a few other canon games like SegaSonic the hedgehog and Sonic Pinball
@@PsychoticaYT [ahem] I hate to be a pain in the butt, but it's Sonic Spinball.
@@benjamintheraccoon Oof damn you right my bad.
I really hate to be that guy when i say this because you got the timeline pretty much down on lock you missed Sonic Rivals 2
You forgot Sonic Boom not saying the game was good, the game was indeed trash but unfortunately it's part of the Sonic series.
interesting video i really enjoyed it!
I remember watching this when it had been out for like a week
"It's a '90s action platformer with mascots" Well isn't that funny MARIO
I still remember getting blown away seeing cinemated cutscenes on sonic unleashed.
"Elise uses the chaos emeralds and this bullshit🤦" 😂😂😂😂 that part had me rolling bro because it's too factual 😂😂😭🤣
"Bonus points for pulling it off twice in the same game." 😄 🤣
The Sonic two timelines are not “classic” & “modern”. The two timelines are
The main timeline, Sonic 1 - Forces
The mania timeline, Sonic 1 - Sonic 3&K normally then Classic Generations splits the timeline into Mania, Forces (Classic) & Mania Plus
@Classic Sonic
The “mania timeline” is part of the “main timeline” up until the time travel shenanigans after of Generations, in which “classic Sonic” enters white space sometime after Sonic 2 and 3 cause he knows Tails and 3 directly follows 2, and sometime before Sonic Adventure cause he can’t spin dash yet. Sonic Forces also happens for “classic Sonic” in between Sonic Mania and Sonic Mania Plus.
The “Mania timeline branch” starts after Sonic 3 with Sonic Generations as the point of variation. Dark time energy follows “Classic Sonic” through the portal to his new timeline branch and creates the phantom ruby.
One day “classic Eggman” discovers a new powerful gem under the ground of Angel Island and sends 5 Egg-robo’s to fetch it, at the same time “classic Tails” picks up the signal and follows it, then the events of Sonic Mania happens. “classic Sonic” gets all the chaos emeralds as the Phantom ruby takes him on an adventure exploring new and old locations (like he did in Sonic Generations). With all the emeralds in hand “classic super Sonic” defeats “classic Eggman” and the phantom king and releases the ruby from their grasp, but the ruby has been guiding him through this journey, it pulls the chaos emeralds out of “classic super Sonic” and performs chaos control, opening a portal through Space and time, leading back to the main timeline that it’s energy was originally from. It goes through the portal, quickly followed by “classic Sonic “, but the seconds difference of them entering the portal turned into months in between them arriving at their destination.
And so “modern Eggman” finds the phantom ruby on his doorstop (Sonic Forces comic) and the events of Sonic Forces start. Months later Eggman takes over and omega gets destroyed by infinite who now welds the phantom ruby, tails goes to fix him but is attacked by chaos, and that moment is when classic Sonic finally reaches the end of the portal, months after the ruby. Then Sonic Forces ends with the ruby and “classic Sonic” disappearing.
“Classic Sonic” comes through a portal back to his timeline, the phantom ruby follows, the phantom king and the hard boiled heavy’s get revived, “classic Sonic” works with mighty and ray again (who he met in SegaSonic the Hedgehog), he goes on a very similar adventure, defeats “classic Eggman” again, but in the end the phantom ruby overloads the systems, Sonic and friends get out safely, but poor Eggman gets gets sucked up with his base, and the whole timeline is possibly consumed, but Official classic Sonic comics were made to following the Sonic Mania gang, so everybody’s (even Eggman, and the heavy king) end up being fine. Maybe the timeline had the phantom ruby removed from it.
Now some of this relies on theory’s, but it makes sense and I dont know why I’d never heard this theory. The Time-eater was made of dark time energy, it could distort time and can create portals very similar to the phantom ruby, which distorts space throughout Sonic Mania and Sonic Forces. So I believe after it gets defeated in Sonic Generations, some of it’s energy remains and follows “classic Sonic” to his new timeline and grows it’s energy on Angel Island, a place with dirt nourished by the master emerald. I believe the “dark time energy” wanted revenge on the two Sonics that destroyed it’s body, so it puts pawns in motion to destroy them both by leading “classic Sonic” back to the “main timeline” where the other Sonic resided, but in the end good always triumphs evil, and it probably didn’t account for the “avatar” helping Sonic.
This was a lot of text…. Sorry, lol. I know and think way too much about Sonic Mania and Sonic Forces….
Generations causing a split similar to Dragon Ball's Android Saga makes sense to me.