Thanks for putting these videos out there. I've gone down so many rabbit holes trying to fix what to me is now obvious. I'm an upper core player and I need to swing my upper core swing.
Larry played a round yesterday and was absolutely hammering my 7 iron adding your techniques. Keeping the back to the target longer, using my hands more and arms. Rotating after impact (or it feels that way). My 7 iron was ~155 yards now at times I can hit it 185 total distance. It's crazy how much more power I am picking up adhering to the upper-core swing. Trying to exit left and get into positions like some of the teaching pros want you too saps the power from my game. My driver at one time was as short as 220, absolutely humiliating now it's up to 250+ easy. Your insights have been great for my game overall especially my irons.
I like the l to l from a closed stance. Being someone who was taught to hold it off, that free wheeling release that creates many positive things sometimes escapes me. I laughed because just before you mentioned Mr Nicklaus, I was thinking this seems a lot like what Jim Flick and Bob Toski wrote about in their book and concurrently what Mike Malaska teaches. I like your approach. Thanks
In one moment I now know my swing is not "weird". I made the mistake of videotaping it and comparing it. Yet I can really pound it out there. So, I am not changing, but I am now going to use your ideas and merely tinker with my ways. Thanks Larry!
Makes a lot of sense. Most of the club golfers that I play with (including myself!) tend to throw their bodies at the ball, mostly neglecting the arm swing. Many great instructors would support Larry's ideas...John Jacobs, Ernest Jones, Eddie Merrins, Peter Kostis, etc. Really reminds me of a great Kostis book from the early 80's 'The Inside Path to Better Golf' (1982, Golf Digest).
All of those teachers taught swing the club with your arms, hands, and wrists. The big muscles simply move to support what the little muscles are doing.
I have always described myself as an arms swinger, but I like this better. I'm 62 and a 4.1 index and my swing speed is 97. I play with a lot of younger guys who hit it off the earth so I started reading all the rotary swing stuff blah. blah, blah and tried to change my swing to more of a lower body swing, and, Larry, what happened to me is EXACTLY what you described on your Sirius show this morning. I started hitting thes horrific over the top heel cuts and literally lost like 40 yards off the tee and in two handicap cycles went to an 8! It took me like 6 weeks to get back to hitting it solidly.
Thanks Anthony. Many of us Upper Core players have "tried" the average tour player swing aka Mid-core with poor results and loss of distance. Glad you are getting back on track. Keep Swinging!
Love this video. I've been experimenting a bit a find I actually hit the ball crisper and with more distance from a closed setup. I just need to tame the occasional "over draw/hook". I've picked up a full club in distance from my square to slightly open stance (a distance gain hard to ignore from for a 65 yr old). What do you think about an upper core player actually playing most of his golf from a closed stance?
Where is ball position for upper core player? Does it stay the same for each club? Came across your vids while looking for balance/stance width insight. Thanks.
It does not stay the same for each club, and depending on the trajectory you want, you can move the ball around to hit the desired shot. For normal shots, the ball will be furthest back for a sand wedge in the middle of the stance, and furthest forward for a driver. Thanks.
Larry, this is brilliant. I’ve been watching you on Instagram and just realized you are teaching a ‘new’ method. I’m curious - what does your typical divot look like ? Is it smaller than the usual divot from a swing with shaft lean ? Or, do you just bruising / brushing the turf ?
Great video,l taught with Nicklaus/Flick schools on Hilton Head,back in mid 90s,this is how we did it.90% of the amataur show swing this way.I worked with Bob Toski in Hilton Head,this is how he did it
Terrific video! I started with the lower body swing 2 years ago and had little consistency. Switched to the upper core swing recently and found immensily easier to execute. My consistency got much much better. Do you have an idea why golf books do not advocate this type swing and rather go for the hip / lower body core swing, which is significantly harder for beginners?
I only found out about the upper core swing six and a half years ago. Since most of us are upper core, don’t know why this swing is not taught more. Keep Swinging!
Hi Larry, I’m curious as to whether having a more square to closed clubface would be more consistent for an upper core swing? You obviously know more about the swing than I ever will, just seems as if trying to close the clubface at impact is more challenging for the typical amateur. Thx for all the great videos, learning a lot from you.
Larry I started hitting it better when I exaggerated keeping my back to the target longer. The hands when past my chest hitting the ball and then pulled my chest around to the finish. Is it better to error on the side of exaggerating keeping the back to the target as I practice this swing or could that lead to a problem to watch out for? Thanks for your great instruction!
Also is ulnar deviation a critical, required move I should be doing in the golf swing development? You only brought it up in one video of the ones I've seen. Thanks! Brad@@LarryRinkerGolf
larry, would you say the 2 hands and arms are doing an equal amount of the swinging, hitting, and control of the movement or do you feel one more over the other?
@@LarryRinkerGolf larry, i am also left handed but golf right and that is what i've kind of always done. i'm 70 yrs old and been golfing over 40 yrs but have been stuck at 13hdcp. for about 25 yrs. and always trying to improve. i really put alot into it in playing, practice and study.
I wouldn't say it is controlling the swing. There are other factors. It is what the right arm and hand are releasing against and around. Keep Swinging.
Old swing style from the 90s. Pro Players do not flip the wrist at impact any longer nowadays. It is the exact opposite of what is explained in this video. The body rotate to bring the club square at impact. Probably a good video for aged players who cannot rotate much but not recommended for other players.
This video is not for your average Mid-Core Pro Players. It is for Upper Core players which most of us are. Body rotation is a face opener not closer. That's why Dustin Johnson's grip is so strong. All golfers arms and hands rotate through impact and the lead wrist is going towards extension. Check out Jon Sinclair's video on wrist angles. Worth the price. He has the real data from real Tour players. www.sinclairgolf.com
@@LarryRinkerGolf there is a video of David Duval talking about how he extended his wrist like this on utube and he was most definitley a lower core. Very strong grip and lower body rotation - maybe one of the first to really play on tour like that that I can remember
Thanks for putting these videos out there. I've gone down so many rabbit holes trying to fix what to me is now obvious. I'm an upper core player and I need to swing my upper core swing.
Thanks Johnny. Most of us are upper core. Glad I could help. Keep Swinging!
You are a true teacher of the upper core swing, Thanks for all the great videos. I tried this today at my course and it
works perfect.
Thanks Ray.
Love this swing! Has changed the way I golf forever. Upper core aka easy mode swing
Yes it is!
Larry played a round yesterday and was absolutely hammering my 7 iron adding your techniques. Keeping the back to the target longer, using my hands more and arms. Rotating after impact (or it feels that way). My 7 iron was ~155 yards now at times I can hit it 185 total distance. It's crazy how much more power I am picking up adhering to the upper-core swing.
Trying to exit left and get into positions like some of the teaching pros want you too saps the power from my game. My driver at one time was as short as 220, absolutely humiliating now it's up to 250+ easy.
Your insights have been great for my game overall especially my irons.
That is great news Patrick. Keep Swinging!
A real eyeopener for me. This is what I have been looking for, but not found before today. Thank U so much for this brilliant video.
Thanks. I hope it helps your game. Keep Swinging!
I like the l to l from a closed stance. Being someone who was taught to hold it off, that free wheeling release that creates many positive things sometimes escapes me. I laughed because just before you mentioned Mr Nicklaus, I was thinking this seems a lot like what Jim Flick and Bob Toski wrote about in their book and concurrently what Mike Malaska teaches. I like your approach. Thanks
In one moment I now know my swing is not "weird". I made the mistake of videotaping it and comparing it. Yet I can really pound it out there. So, I am not changing, but I am now going to use your ideas and merely tinker with my ways. Thanks Larry!
Thanks G. Most of us are Upper Core and everybody is trying to make us mid-core! Keep Swinging!
Makes a lot of sense. Most of the club golfers that I play with (including myself!) tend to throw their bodies at the ball, mostly neglecting the arm swing. Many great instructors would support Larry's ideas...John Jacobs, Ernest Jones, Eddie Merrins, Peter Kostis, etc. Really reminds me of a great Kostis book from the early 80's 'The Inside Path to Better Golf' (1982, Golf Digest).
All of those teachers taught swing the club with your arms, hands, and wrists. The big muscles simply move to support what the little muscles are doing.
Awesome channel.
Great video
I have always described myself as an arms swinger, but I like this better. I'm 62 and a 4.1 index and my swing speed is 97. I play with a lot of younger guys who hit it off the earth so I started reading all the rotary swing stuff blah. blah, blah and tried to change my swing to more of a lower body swing, and, Larry, what happened to me is EXACTLY what you described on your Sirius show this morning. I started hitting thes horrific over the top heel cuts and literally lost like 40 yards off the tee and in two handicap cycles went to an 8!
It took me like 6 weeks to get back to hitting it solidly.
Thanks Anthony. Many of us Upper Core players have "tried" the average tour player swing aka Mid-core with poor results and loss of distance. Glad you are getting back on track. Keep Swinging!
This is how all the great players of yesteryear played.
Love this video. I've been experimenting a bit a find I actually hit the ball crisper and with more distance from a closed setup. I just need to tame the occasional "over draw/hook". I've picked up a full club in distance from my square to slightly open stance (a distance gain hard to ignore from for a 65 yr old). What do you think about an upper core player actually playing most of his golf from a closed stance?
I have quite a few students our age that hit it better w a closed stance so if it helps, do it!
Where is ball position for upper core player? Does it stay the same for each club? Came across your vids while looking for balance/stance width insight. Thanks.
It does not stay the same for each club, and depending on the trajectory you want, you can move the ball around to hit the desired shot. For normal shots, the ball will be furthest back for a sand wedge in the middle of the stance, and furthest forward for a driver. Thanks.
Larry, this is brilliant. I’ve been watching you on Instagram and just realized you are teaching a ‘new’ method. I’m curious - what does your typical divot look like ?
Is it smaller than the usual divot from a swing with shaft lean ?
Or, do you just bruising / brushing the turf ?
This is old
Great video,l taught with Nicklaus/Flick schools on Hilton Head,back in mid 90s,this is how we did it.90% of the amataur show swing this way.I worked with Bob Toski in Hilton Head,this is how he did it
Thanks Val.
Terrific video! I started with the lower body swing 2 years ago and had little consistency. Switched to the upper core swing recently and found immensily easier to execute. My consistency got much much better.
Do you have an idea why golf books do not advocate this type swing and rather go for the hip / lower body core swing, which is significantly harder for beginners?
I only found out about the upper core swing six and a half years ago. Since most of us are upper core, don’t know why this swing is not taught more. Keep Swinging!
Hi Larry, I’m curious as to whether having a more square to closed clubface would be more consistent for an upper core swing? You obviously know more about the swing than I ever will, just seems as if trying to close the clubface at impact is more challenging for the typical amateur. Thx for all the great videos, learning a lot from you.
It really depends. That's up to you. If I could see you and measure you I would be able to correctly diagnose. All the best.
When using the drill is the entire setup closed or just the feet (with the shoulders still parallel to the target line) ?
Shoulders and hips will be a little closed as well to the target line. Thanks.
Larry I started hitting it better when I exaggerated keeping my back to the target longer. The hands when past my chest hitting the ball and then pulled my chest around to the finish. Is it better to error on the side of exaggerating keeping the back to the target as I practice this swing or could that lead to a problem to watch out for? Thanks for your great instruction!
Better to do it too long rather than not enough. Glad it’s helping your game.
Also is ulnar deviation a critical, required move I should be doing in the golf swing development? You only brought it up in one video of the ones I've seen. Thanks! Brad@@LarryRinkerGolf
@@bradleydanyluk775 ulnar deviation should happen naturally so no need to worry about it. Keep Swinging!
Larry would this work for woods as well??
Yes
@@LarryRinkerGolf thanks Larry love your stuff
What are the brown sticks on the ground for?.
The orange sticks on the ground are the target line. The yellow sticks represent swinging in to out to the orange sticks.
larry, would you say the 2 hands and arms are doing an equal amount of the swinging, hitting, and control of the movement or do you feel one more over the other?
Steve, I'm left handed swinging right handed so I do feel it is both hands and arms swinging to create speed in the club head.
@@LarryRinkerGolf larry, i am also left handed but golf right and that is what i've kind of always done. i'm 70 yrs old and been golfing over 40 yrs but have been stuck at 13hdcp. for about 25 yrs. and always trying to improve. i really put alot into it in playing, practice and study.
larry, i remember you from when you played on the tour.
@@steveperry1344 I have as well.
@@steveperry1344 steve, I remember you when you sang for Journey
Is your left arm/hand controlling the swing?
I wouldn't say it is controlling the swing. There are other factors. It is what the right arm and hand are releasing against and around. Keep Swinging.
Larry Rinker Thank you.
Is this a conscious roll of hands or does the club rotate naturally if you let it?
It's a little of both. Keep in mind, the the left hand is going into extension as the club passes the lead arm.
Larry. Are you suggesting that twisting my back and hips into a pretzel is wrong? 😀
😂
Old swing style from the 90s. Pro Players do not flip the wrist at impact any longer nowadays. It is the exact opposite of what is explained in this video. The body rotate to bring the club square at impact. Probably a good video for aged players who cannot rotate much but not recommended for other players.
This video is not for your average Mid-Core Pro Players. It is for Upper Core players which most of us are. Body rotation is a face opener not closer. That's why Dustin Johnson's grip is so strong. All golfers arms and hands rotate through impact and the lead wrist is going towards extension. Check out Jon Sinclair's video on wrist angles. Worth the price. He has the real data from real Tour players. www.sinclairgolf.com
@@LarryRinkerGolf there is a video of David Duval talking about how he extended his wrist like this on utube and he was most definitley a lower core. Very strong grip and lower body rotation - maybe one of the first to really play on tour like that that I can remember
@@dtmcbride Lee Trevino and Paul Azinger low core too.
Larry, do you think the feet together drill is helpful?
Yes it is with a closed stance for upper core players.
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