Fire it UP!! 🔥 V12 Flathead Engine Ignition and Start! Lincoln Zephyr V-12 Series Will It Run?
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- Опубліковано 6 лип 2024
- We follow along as Tracy finishes the wiring of the V-12, then connects everything to the Lincoln flathead engine test cart to fire it up to see how it runs.
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My dad was working in the shipyards, in Baltimore, as a welder on the Liberty ships. He had a Lincoln Zephyr and would drive it between Baltimore and his home in West Virginia when he had the time. He told me it was the fastest and best running car he ever owned.
When my Dad got back from Korea in 1952, he bought a much-used 1941 Lincoln Zephyr "for a song" as he put it. He told me that fixing it up to run right was a nightmare, but he did get it running well, and fixed up everything else that was wrong. My Mother was a pretty good driver, having driven a "two-tonne lorry" around London during the Blitz, so Dad let her take it to the grocery store one day, and she got the only speeding ticket she ever got with that car! The CHP caught her going 91 mph in that thing, and she told me years later that Lincoln was so quiet that she didn't know she was going that fast. Anyway, this video reminded me of a memory from the past. Thank you for that and good luck with that engine.
What a great story and memory! Thanks for sharing that…
I drove and showed a 36 Zephyr V12 from 2001 to 2013, great runner, smooth as silk I set the idle a bunch lower than this one. AACA 1st junior. There is a fellow in Naples FL who also has a 36. There were plenty of changes from 36 to 37. A model A coupe with that V12 was the original “hot rod Lincoln” The V12 flattie in the Continental is what gave Edsel Ford ulcers, leading to his early demise. When Clara Ford (Henry Ford’s wife) passed away, there was still an early (pre-war) Continental in the garage at Fair lane titled and registered in her name. Apparently she loved the Continental as much as everyone who owned one, another bit of Continental lore. In Francis Ford Coppola”s 1972 Oscar winner The Godfather, Sonny Corleone was driving a 41 Continental when he was killed at the causeway toll booth!
Wow great stories! Thanks for the info as well - I appreciate it!
Isn't that nice..
Hmmm, why does "Hot Rod Lincoln" come to mind... ;-)
Those engines run so smoothly, no vibration, great job. I am 82, a retired mechanic that appreciates the old great engines.
Thank you! 🙏
I've heard that back in the day, a lot of the owners of these cars after some time owning them wound up swapping these V12s for the more common Ford flathead V8. I think it was due to oiling issues. Thank you for the episode. @@BarryTsGarage
due to a V12's perfect primary balance, they have almost no vibration. a V12 may be the most perfect engine design if you don't mind a larger engine.
The reason for V12 auto engines in the 1930s was to get more power pulses on each revolution, creating a smoother running engine. That's why you usually found them on luxury cars, where the owner could afford the added cost to get a smoother driving and riding experience. With a six cylinder engine you get 3 power pulses per engine revolution, with a 8 cylinder engine you get 4, and with a 12 cylinder you get 6.
All I can think of is "Son, you're gonna drive to drinkin if you don't stop driving that hot rod Lincoln"
I was born and raised in the gasoline and diesel mechanical field, at my 71 years of age for the first time I got to hear the roar of that V12 engine, that sounds like a dream, so smooth , perfect idling, no vibration and at that age of that engine make the new technology green of envy, to each and everyone that one way or another made it possible to bring it to us, to share that outstanding and impressive work of art my most expressive thanks for letting us enjoy, from the endless summer paradise Puerto Rico Jesus Torres.
Mr Jesus Torres thank you for your kind words and I’m so glad that you enjoyed the video! Please have a great day in Puerto Rico!
@@BarryTsGarage most kind of you gentleman, please be safe and enjoy your toys, blessings to you and your love ones, great to have the opportunity to see your outstanding and impressive work, from the endless summer paradise Puerto Rico Jesus Torres.
What a beautiful piece of history. I absolutely love the flat-head engine and the way it sounds and looks
Thank you!
What a beautiful sounding engine. Nothing sounds better than a Flathead, whether its a 6, 8, or 12. Good for you man.
Thanks George!
That quintessential Hot Rod sound.
I have to agree with you on that 110%, why is that I wonder??
Flatheads really do have such a unique, beautiful sound, I owned a '49, and a '50. There were many in my family ( 6 older siblings ). The old power boats sounded sweet, too. Flatheads forever!
@@boost7983usually has a lower compression with a. Firing order her helps but is inconsequential mostly not always the case. They also had a good flywheel effect where everything was so heavy that they sounded smooth regardless. Because of the rotating mass
15:44 is when all the magic happens. Well done guys.
Thanks Trent M!
Bless you, Trent
Many memories of my dad rebuilding an engine exactly like that in 1954. Thanks for the video. I’am young again.
Love it!
Just discovered this video while looking for something else. It was fascinating seeing and hearing such a beautiful piece of history. When he started it up it sounded beautiful. Most modern V12's scream at you when you rev them but this just rumbled, growled then snarled like it meant business!
It's always great to see videos on THESE engines. It's doubtful I'll ever get to see/hear one in person. THIS video showed details that I'd never seen before.
Thank you so much for taking the time to make this, and posting it.👍
Thanks for the encouragement, Kent. We will endeavor to get some more content like this to you, our subscribers are growing which helps a lot…
@@BarryTsGarage ñn
I really appreciate hearing those old engines run, there is just something calming in it.
My family had a 1939 Zephyr and as an infant it would lull me to sleep in th late `40's.
In 1949 dad put in a crate Mercury CHP V8. It went faster than the V12 as it had a Colombia 2 speed differential.
All V12 engines sound really good and although this particular 75 degree engine was not the best when it came to reliability, it had a flat torque curve that made it a top-end favorite for it's day. This one was the bank robbers choice for outrunning the cops with those Ford V8's.
Si ,pero hay algo mas El Lincoln tenia frenos hidraulicos Bendix y FRENABA bien Los Fords de esa epoca eran caballos desbocados con sus frenos mecánicos
I'm assuming they had to do some work on the intake. That lawnmower carburetor had to be starving these things.
Sounds like an airplane.
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That "lawnmower carburetor" is probably the least of this thing's problems when it comes making a lot of power. Just being a flathead the air has a torchurious path in and out of the cylinder. It's still really cool though.
@177SCmaro My dad worked on a few of these back in the day. He always said that due to the poor mixture distribution, the front and rear cylinders on each bank were just along for the ride.
I had a great uncle who has both of his dad's V12s. They were complete cars that they cut the rear of the car off, leaving the bell housing and transmission, and mounted water pumps to the drive shaft, in place of where the rear ends used to be, to irrigate his crops here in NE Texas. About 20 years ago he busted one of them off for me to hear again as I had heard them both run back in the early 60's. Very cool old engines.
The "diver helmet" distributor was used on Ford V type engines from 1932 to 1941. Ford changed to a "crab" distributor after WW2, but not sure if Lincoln did. Those "diver helmet" distributors were reliable, but had to be removed for maintenance. They only go on one way with a slot index, so there is no timing issue.
Gotta get me one!
Los buzos usaban la escafandra para trabajar bajo el agua AL distribuidor escafandra no le gusta el agua para nada...
Remarkable. It's like the flathead V8's ignition system. Setting up and adjusting the points are a real task. I've only tuned them. A real joy when everything is finally correct and it's driving with out complications.
Brought tears to my eyes when it started up. Just hear it run was so sweeeeet!!!
I remembered my 47 Ford convertible rescued off a junkyard and how it sounded with the rebuilt Mercury engine from Sears back in August of 1957 I have seen it 4 times over the past 30 years. When I saw it in my work parking lot in 91 it had been Completely Restored . The top was down and I wqs able to reach in and feel the body damage still inside the rear quarter panel from when they pulled the body out of the yard in 57. Outside was OK but inside the UID was still there. LOL Ive seen it 3 more since but Im disabled and my wife wouldnt follow it to the car show. so I could actually talk to the owner. Im sure he would like to have the original paperwork I still have and know about its history - art least back to '57.
Thanks for letting me reminisce. Flatheads FOREVER!!!!!
Charley Ryans (REAL - V12) Hot Rod Lincoln (not commander cody's puny V8 version).
ua-cam.com/video/e58NJU5B3v8/v-deo.html . LOL
Thanks for sharing that great memory, Frederick!
What a rumble!
As a former Cadillac owner in Sweden, the rumble of its V8 went straight to my heart. This one rumbled almost nicer!
Thanks for sharing - fun to have you join from Sweden!
I helped my great uncle get his 1940's Lincoln town car convertible running right before he sold it in 1996. He had it stored in a heated garage and only had to rebuild the carb and he had the starter redone. Fired it up and drove it down the road for a couple of miles. That car was smooth and quiet.
Love it!
I´m so glad I stumbled on this. My grandfather in Finland had a 1937 Lincoln Zephyr from new all through the war years when it was run on producer gas until 1951 when it was traded for a Mercedes 170S. I have heard so many stories of this car, it is fantastic to get to hear the v12 run.
Thank you Christer!
I love the sound of the old flat head engines. Very cool!
It is important to remember that the Lincoln Zephyr V-12s had the cylinder banks spaced at 75 degrees and not the usual 60 degrees. As a result, the ignition firing pulses were 75 -45-75-45 and so on . . . . not the 60-60-60-60 of the usual V-12 engine. Somewhat similar was the Liberty V-12 aircraft engine with its' cylinder banks spaced at 45 degrees. The 75 degree cylinder bank spacing definitely affected the design and engineering of that ingenious ignition system. Very, very cool indeed . . . .
By golly I didn't know that !
If I had a spare Ford GAA i would give it to you - but I've only got the one, so . . .
Edsel Ford being left alone to create like he wanted to.
‘Had a Lincoln motor and it was really souped up. That Model A body made it look like a pup....”
Yup!
@@edmundsmith7199 twelve cylinders and used em all!
I worked on an engine at least superficially similar to that back in the early 80's. It was on a 1934 Seagrave fire truck. V-12 Dual Distributers two spark plugs per cylinder, two coils, two single barrel carbs. Running new spark plug wires through those tubes was a royal pain. LOL forgot one fun part, it had the hand crank for the front of the engine to start it.
I WENT TO HIGH SCHOOL WITH A DOCTORS SON & HIS SISTER...THEY GAVE ME A RIDE IN A V12 LINCOLN 2 DR COUPE' IT RAN SO SMOOTH...TORQUE WAS VERY SMOOTH & QUIET...OPEN W NO TOP...FUN MEMORABLE RIDE...LODI, CALIF...1966!!!!
Surprisingly quiet for open manifolds! Love that sound!
Thank you For sharing your thoughts, Mark!
The result of the low compression of the era
WOW!! She sounds amazing!! Great job resurrecting her!
I can remember seeing a Lincoln Zephyr Coupe at a car show, likely 40 years ago. It had a V12 and can remember the owner turning the idle way down. With 12 cylinders it kept running when a V8 would have died. Cool motor considering when it came out. Cool video thanks for posting it.
Cool and Ford flatheads do not go together. Both the 8s and the 12s with siamesed exhausts were boilers and simply ran parts of the engines way too hot. Not good for the iron!!
And Ford compounded the well known V8 problems by using the same design on the 12s.
12s of any sort leave me cold,, they sound like 6s. Merlins down.
@@ldnwholesale8552 for their time they were the engine to build.
@@ldnwholesale8552 Try Griffin’s or the even more extreme Napier Nomad diesel aircraft engines.
Thank you, Daniel. Working on some more videos like it - stay tuned!
I may only be 34 but I absolutely love and am fascinated by these engines. Had abandoned properties by my old farmhouse and that’s what started my love and interest in these old buggers.
You have lots of fun to look forward to! Thanks Jesse
How cool! He put his hand over the carb to act as a choke if he needed to do that...also notice that the last thing he said was "it could be flooded" but obviously it was not, and although his hand was there on the carb he did not need to "choke it."
My sister had a '41 Zephyr with this engine in it. It got about eight MPG but who cared, gas was $.25 a gallon. Great video, brought back some great memories.
That’s a great memory, and a great story!
Wow! what a GREAT RARE find. I love it. What a great work of automotive art. Did not know such a creature still existed but i have heard of the V-16
I could listen to that music all day!
Back in the early 60's there was an older guy that that owned a Zephyer with the 3 speed overdrive that lived up the road from me. Not sure of the year but it was a deep blue and he kept it polished and buffed. A couple of times I was hitchhiking home from baseball practice he picked me up. He loved to walk on it and cruised at 90. It was a sweet ride and I loved it.
He was a great guy and even took me all the way home. He passed away a few years after I graduated and was working out of the area and I didn't hear about it for a few months. Missed his funeral and I was really sorry about that. I don't know what happened to the car.
Wow Herbert what a great Zephyr story. Thank you for sharing it here. 👍
Worked at a hotrod shop that had 2 of those Zephyr V12s collecting dust in a corner, right next to a Lightning supercharged 5.4 in a crate, that hadn't moved in years.
I love these engines. All about the smoothness...
What a beautiful sounding engine, great job keep her on the road.
That is the plan. Thanks Jim!
My father in law had one of these in 1950. Bought another one in 2000 with the intention of restoration. Unfortunately the 2008 housing market crash ended that dream and he was forced to sell it to keep the lights on.
Always liked the sound of it. It was super smooth in its power delivery.
Sorry to hear that - many were set back in 2008. Smoothness is definitely a major positive for this engine! Thanks for sharing, Caleb.
I own a 1987 v12 jaguar. It sounds more like a bid 6 cylinder than a v12, even with an open exhaust. Please keep these videos coming. Australia.
Looks very trustworthy and well made!
It's just incredible how a small single carburetor feeds 12 cylinders,it runs and revs beautifully,what a masterpiece,love it 👌
Thank you so much, Shane. I appreciate your comment and will try to get some more similar content out there for you… Barry T
@@BarryTsGarage Thanks so much
It is a 2 barrel, not a single barrel.
That’s right, I meant to say single carb. Thanks Michael!
My dad used to say that the front 2 cylinders and the back 2 were just along for the ride. These should have had 2 carbs from the factory.
Only saw and heard one V12 Lincoln engine in person. I was at a car show/swap meet and someone was selling a 1940 Lincoln Zephyr Coupe restored with a V12. He started it up and can recall the sound it made. Even remember him showing us how he could turn the idle way down and it still ran. Some around said comments that they'd dump that V12 and make a street rod out of it. I recall saying a car that nice should never be chopped up into a street rod. If I recall the asking price on the car was well under $10k, but that was in the early 80's. I always wanted to find an original/restored 40 Ford Coupe, flathead and all, but never found one of those either. I think it's great that some cars should stay stock and not be butchered up. Cool V12 video!
If you have a look through the channel, you’ll see some restored Zephyr with their correct version 12. Also very lightly modified… Thanks for joining in, great comment!
That sure looks like a two barrel carburetor, not a one barrel.
Thank you for showing this. I haven't seen one of these running since I was a teenager.
Yeah I meant to say single two barrel haha. Glad to share!
The high volume oil pump on those is a must. I seem to recall that the zephyr V-12's had oil starvation issues.
A good idea. If you’re rebuilding, there are some oiling mods that can improve things as well.
Well that sounds like an engine, and so quite without exhaust. That should be in a old pickup truck, what a lovely sound. Thanks.
We had a number of postwar zephyr's and continentals and was always surprised with just how easily they would start and run. My brother just sold the last of the parts just 2 years ago after almost 20 years.
That’s amazing
That continuous-fin radiator is a work of art!
I love seeing these old flathead get love. I've worked on BMW V12s but not one of these.
This sounds awesome without exhaust pipes can't wait to hear it in the car be looking forward to that!!
Lincoln cars were widely used in Brazil, as taxi. It was one of my late father's favorites, he was an unconditional fan of lincolns sedans, mainly because he worked with taxis, but also for walking with the family, because we were eleven brothers, etc. maneco - Porto Alegre-RS - Brasil.
Thank you for that
i'm 76 yrs. very cool. i 1st learned about the zephyr from 1940s green hornet. kato claimed his performance tuning made it "good for 200". lol back when usa was a manufacturing powerhouse. sigh! thanks for the video. very interesting.
Thanks for sharing!
Compression washers on plugs were very common in the 60's and earlier. We could reuse them a number of times.
I still reuse them. Never had a problem from that.
Yeah, that's being a bit overly pedantic.
Worried about the compression washer but not Worried about oil psi.
Sounds so sweet, never knew there was a flat head V12, Thanks for sharing
Your encouragement is also appreciated! Thanks
Lincoln,Packard and Pierce made flathead V12's.They were good high quality engines whereas the Zephyr was
not even a good also ran.
Very cool. Thanks for the run
Beautiful Sound!!! Well Done
That has to be one of the best sounding engines I’ve ever heard!
Thank you so much, Cory!
Dude thanks sounds fantastic considering it's 90 years old it's really sounded good man you
Truly an engineering masterpiece thank you for sharing.
And thank you for your kind comment.
Now that is a sweet running engine!
Barry. That was brilliant 🤩. You are star🤩. What a lovely sound and a real good look over the motor parts. 👍👍. Thanks for showing and best wishes from jolly old England. 🤓Pete 😎
Thank you, Pete. So glad you enjoyed it!
I think everyone at the shop was quite surprised at how smoothly it ran straight out of the gate. I was a pleasure to hear it.
All the best from AZ 🌵 USA
@@BarryTsGarage Yes Barry. 🤩It ran as sweet as a nut👍👍just bubble wrap it and post it over😂. 🤓Pete 😎. I really appreciate the close up of the carb and distributor, etc👍🤩
I had a restored 48 Lincoln convertible which I sold a couple of years ago to a fellow in Norway. The motor was so quiet you could not hear it at idle. When going through the gears, It gave me the impression that it sounded like twin 6 cylinder motors running syncronously.
That’s a great description! Thanks for sharing, Bill!
I LOVE the sound that flatheads make.
I can’t disagree with you, thank you John
@@BarryTsGarage Thanks very much for understanding just what I mean. God Bless.( P..S..... OLD STUFF will ALWAYS be Superior to "new" crap. Amen. HAA!! ! You totally get it.
He did such a good job, that thing looks ready to drop in
Hoping to see that next, Joel!
Very cool. There'a just one thing I noticed. The fuel filter is on the suction side of the pump. Those aren't suction filters. Probably nothing will ever happen, but it is possible the pump could suck the guts out of the filter.
That motor has a distinctive sound. I love it.
I agree! Thank you
What a thing of beauty, and that exhaust note,oh yes!
Thanks Glen!
Seems to run fine! Supercool engine. Much more interesting than the new stuff.
Thank you, Mark!
What a beautiful state of art Machine
The Stromberg 97 is a two barrel carb.
You’re right - it was a word fumble for sure.
Wow what a Beautiful piece of machinery
Sounds great even without pipes! Darlington, South Carolina
Wow. That was beautiful. I'm in love! Can you imagine that thing in a go-kart? Wow!
Hahaha thanks
Awesome Job! 🍻
I'm amazed how many old timers are watching this and actually know a lot about these engines. I mean, damn, these were made over 80 years ago, and not nearly as common as Model As and other Fords.
Agreed! There’s a lot of knowledge out there!
What a beautiful sound!!!
It’s amazing how modern looking Lincoln ignition parts look now. I mean that spark timing and coil system looks like it could have been designed in the 90s! And it was designed and built in the 1930s…
Thank you, Kevin. It does fascinate me as well
My Dad put a Lincoln V12 into a 1940 Ford at the Garage he ran from our house in Hominy, Oklahoma in 1956 or 57. My first ride in a hotrod, I was 10yrs. old. lol
Wow your Dad was cool! Great memory - thanks for sharing it!
Sounds great!😮
I knew a man who had a 1948 V-12. He said it was a gigantic ... massive three hundred and twelve cubic engine, then we both chuckled. His was a retired United States Diplomatic vehicle he bought at auction while he was in the military.
I believe these were 292 ci
Really nice job, runs great
That sounds great!
A few notes on this video... This engine was set up on the fly to quickly learn if it was a "runner" or not, so the set up is far from what you would want for long term testing. There are some leaks and a kinked water hose that would NOT be okay for any kind of lengthy run. I said 1 barrel when i meant to say 2 barrel. Also, the spark plugs should be tightened down properly to ensure good spark ground and compression. The exhaust manifolds aren't really connected. If you want to see a start-up of a properly set up V12 Flathead, check this out: ua-cam.com/video/Pk_Dsx5FhSw/v-deo.html
I was in Sturgies,south dakota,And a guy with a lincoln V-12 in his motorcycle stopped right in front of me,it sounded real sweet too,OH ,ITS ON THE INTERNET NOW...
That must have been something!
Sounds and runs great.
What an interesting engine. Thanks for sharing with us
Thanks Bill
She sounds good. Thanks for sharing.
👍👍
Sounds excellent
It's never advisable to run an engine without a muffled exhaust system. The un-muffled exhaust noise can mask the sounds of possible trouble in the engine. It only takes a little effort to hookup an exhaust system with a proper exhaust pipe, muffler, and tail pipe. These Zephyr engines are VERY rare, and should be given all the care that's possible.
That would be ideal
That thing sounds good!😊
I love the sound it makes
V12!! Sounding nice!
Thanks for watching!
Wow. I didn’t even know this engine existed. Ive only ever heard of Ford’s Flathead V8. Imagine seeing a Rat Rod with this bad boy, that would be badass.
Sounds great.
I love this. I'd be thrilled to get ahold of one of these just to have it. I'd also love a 337 CID flathead V8.
Thanks 🙏
Great old Lincoln V12!😁🤟
I've seen a couple of them at the Gilmore Car Museum in Hickory Corners, MI. It's amazing how small they are.
Agreed - surprisingly compact V12…
Thanks, Jim! Barry T
Lovely sound this engine makes.
Love the Engine
I saw one of these engines in '49 or '80 Ford F1 pickup. It looked like it belonged in there!
What a sound. Music to the ears.
Agreed!
Amazing. Almost sounds like a Merlin!