I did the same thing. I got mine the other day and when I was updating the ktuner on my computer the screen went black and was unresponsive didn't want to do anything. I got in contact with ktuner and they told me to send it back to them.. I was so bummed out. I hope to get it back in working conditions next week so I can finally flash the tsp stage 1 tune.
@@mrcivicsi20good luck! Mines still working great, I just set the tune and then never looked back. The shift points feel godly compared to stock. I went back for a week and thought I broke the car because of how jerky the original shift points were. Only downside is the 93 gas but it’s been worth it
@Warr1895 yeah I have put 93 since I bought the car. So I'm cool with that. But I can't wait to get it back and flash it. What tune are you using? Tsp stage 1?
@@mrcivicsi20it’s been so long I cannot remember what one I want with. If TSP 1 has where you can manually switch the the different boost amounts I ended up not liking that one. Since it reset every time you turned off the car. I ended up just doing the preloaded one that changed the PSI to 18. So it was the most aggressive one. Makes the world of difference 😂 it was keeping up or beating my 2017 v6 mustang (but with twice the mpg) so I sold the stang 😂
I love Cameron’s videos but I’ll be honest it’s misleading when people say KTuner voids your warranty immediately after flashing. I have friends in a XGenz Civic group running FBO + e85 & PRL Big Turbo and they still get warranty work at Honda. The thing Cameron didn’t mention is that you can modify your car any way you want and Honda has to prove that your after market part is what caused the problem or issue for your warranty to be voided.
Thanks for being so informative and straight to the chase. I’ve been doing a lot of research and so many videos are cut with so much fluff/mis-information. Great vid!
I did the same and did a cold air intake, then the Ktuner with TSP stage 1 the following day. It is still a bit chilly where I live, and I can totally see getting an upgraded intercooler. My experiences so far, is that I mostly roll with MAP 2, unless I am on a slower road that has a lot of twists and turns. Then I switch to MAP 1 because the stock all-season tires get overwhelmed. When I am on the interstate and want to really haul the goods, I put her on MAP 3 and start handing out ass whoopins! I do run 93 octane with 10% ethanol and she loves it! I get very LOW knock control readings with the 93. All in all, it has been the greatest car I have ever owned, blending performance, economy, and practicality. I have put almost 4,000 miles on the car in 40 days, and it is at 15,000 miles now. I have averaged 30 mpg for the whole duration of my command. I have seen over 51 mpg after the tune on MAP 1, with the cruise set at 55 mph and shifting at no more than 2500 rpm & feathering the gas. It is truly remarkable. I am currently working on upgrading the audio and that in itself will be pricey to do it right. It will definitely be challenging, but so worth it, as I am an audiophile of sorts. There's some good info about the premium audio on the GENx forum! Anyway, your videos are awesome, keep it going - I will be waiting!
2006 RSX here, 180 000km with original clutch, not always beaten tho (owned the car for 10 000km and previous owner didn't beat it as far as I know). Still shifts like a dream and never slips. Honda makes good clutches, I would not be worried if I were you. And changing a clutch is pocket change compared to all the fun beating a car can provide lol.
1:42 To answer your question as to why some people buy it elsewhere instead of from 2 step performance...i bought my ktuner from ebay instead of 2 step performance because there was a 15% discount code from ebay during that time (wish ebay would do these coupons again). The seller puts it up as new at the price of $425, with an "offer" option. So I offered the price at $400, then plus the 15% off discount code. So I only paid $340 for a Ktuner v1.2. I was ok with the base maps that came with it and didn't need the TSP tune. I've been using the dual 21 psi since then, nothing fancy.
Thanks for taking the time to make this! I’ve been debating what mods I should do first and I figured intercooler was best choice to go with first especially since i’m in Dallas and it’s hot as hell
as technician for honda. YES manufacturer can see if you have tuned your car previously even if you go back to a stock tune. We just had a type r come in for transmission problem, but as soon as our guys came in they instantly voided JUST the engine and transmission warranty for the vehicle after they scanned it.
Cameron Hill as far as I know not currently but we just got our shipment of new Type r last week they’re still in our show room but we have yet to get a new one for mechanical problems
And also you can run a gallon of e85 with a full tank of gas if you’re like on 91 octane that gets you to 93 octane and if you’re on 93 octane that’ll get to 95 octane plus your fuel becomes E15 blend and you’ll get just a little colder mixture
Sweet! To bad I cant find E85 here.. I have ti get it custom made. On another note, will the car even run the e85 with out tht the equiptment? I get that its just a little bit, but Ive never messed with it. I am TSP tuned because of Cameron lol
This video helped a lot bro! I was thinking about my next mod ark performance exhaust or prl intercooler this made my mind up 🤘 great video for our 10th gens 🤝
Great video, I currently have 161,000 miles on my 2017 CIVIC HATCHBACK SPORT, cvt. I just finished paying it off and am deciding between a new Si or type R as a daily commuter. I drive 600 to and from every weekened for my job. Honda makes makes great engines!
I work at a Honda in Orange County and we can tell when someone flashed their car.their is a service bulletin for type r specifically will not have their engine replaced when they blow up due to tuning. Common problems for si are rough idle and transmission issues when tuned, But there is hope for si owners most dealerships don’t care about tuning most of the times when it comes to sis most service advicers and managers don’t know what tuning is and most first major issues that come with tuning will be covered. The vehicles that tend to have their vehicle black listed “void warranty” happens when people come in constantly for major mechanical problems that are obviously modded. The technicians will get annoyed of working on the same car and dig deeper on why things keep break I.e checking the computer to see if it’s been flashed.
Neato I'll probably risk it for shits and giggles anyway. Already got hit in my 2020 Sedan Si luckily the collision shop did a great job repairing it. The dealership had to replace the turbo manifold and the entire engine harness on her dime.
Literally binge watched your civic videos and just found out you also live in Sacramento. Was thinking of getting my first new car from a 94 Integra. Keep up the work!
Good solid video bro! I have plenty of fun driving my 2020 Si completely STOCK! yes I would love a tune and FMIC CAI and exhaust, etc. in time maybe. Still, hit 136mph on stock in no time flat haha love the Si and everything about it is nice. I used to get bad rev hang, but now, either I don’t notice it as much, or I’ve perfected my shifting to limit the amount of rev hang and I honestly can’t remember the last time I had rev hang on it. Think it’s all about how you drive and shifting points. But it was worse and now rev hang is better if not virtually completely gone, somehow lol
Honda can tell if your car has been flashed. We did a specific flash reset to all the modules on the car after returning back to stock and the dealership found out it was flashed. The no lift shift has lead to people breaking 3rd and 4th gears on the transmissions.
It’s a total different car with the tune. I’ve had clutch slippage problem in 4th and 5th gear. I’ve noticed it most when I try to give too much power at lower rpm’s. Looks like an ACT clutch is in my near future 😜. I had the 20psi problem for a bit. I ended re-downloading the tune again and it seemed to fix the issue (weird). You hit the nail on the head with the heat stroke on these cars. I have the Mishimoto intercooler already. My next purchase is going to be the Koyorad radiator. Summer is coming and we have to keep are cars as cool as possible. Love the vid man, great info. Can’t wait for the next.
The reason it happens is because your revs fall below they're destined speed for the next year before you can shift them and you are used to the opposite. A slight tap to the the throttle may help if you wanna take your time shifting.
LMFAO!! The ending got me cracking up! But very good informative video Cameron! I hope everyone knows you gotta pay to play when it comes to modifying your car out of the stock parameters. It's all about the journey and the process and that's why we do what we do to our cars!
Great Video!! Glad i came across it, i was just about to buy a K-Tuner V2 from a different website until I watched this! Just purchased it from TSP with the Stage1 tune! Thanks
Michael Forcino I got this actually it’s great with my prl cobra race Maf and fx350 lightweight flywheel and I run a gallon of e85 with a full tank of 93 and that helps power just a touch also
Great video! Especially about getting the TSP 1 set up. I have the same problem and emailed (twice) TSP. Their answer definitely wasn’t helpful at all which sucks because I heard they have great customer service. I’m going to try your fix and hope it works. Really want to see what this tune can do.
that really sucks that they don't really make that strong of an effort to either fix the problem, develop a more detailed upload tutorial, or something.. anything.. that really is shitty
It doesn’t ‘void your warranty’. It voids the warranty of any particular part(s) directly impacted by the tune. A tune won’t void your warranty on you power window for example (sounds silly to say but many don’t understand that). And the dealer has to prove/provide that the tune causes the part(s) failure (usually a because-I-said is enough but the mfg’er has final say). What’s the benefit of this vs. a Hondata tune that’s supported by dealers? And does a higher PSI cause clutch slippage as reported by some?
Awesome video Cameron as always!! I want to tune and mod my TypeR but I am hesitant to void the warranty! I have my TypeR paid off and it’s nice not to have a car payment and I am debating to take the chance!! If i do do modifications to it I think I would get inter cooler, intake , tune and some sort of exhaust mod! I don’t think I would do anything more than those boltons! I always appreciate your insightful videos and I appreciate how you say it like it is!! ! Your channel is one of my favorite out of all of them car related channels I watch! Keep up the incredible content Cam!! I hope to talk soon!! God bless!! 🚙🚙🚙😀😀😀👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽
Not a Honda tech, but a Ford tech. We just denied warranty on a Focus ST because after digging a bit the drive cyle counter on the car was at 3, which shows 3 ingnition cyles since the PCM was flashed. Meaning they messed something up and flashed it to stock to have us look at it. (I wasn't the one assigned to the job so I don't know the details) So yes the dealer can tell when you flash your PCM. I imagine Honda's dealer scanner can access that same info. Just a heads up guys!
I plan on buying a 2020 Si in October and tbh the best results are from people who have the car around 250-260 WHP. That's simply only a slight tune and some bolt-ons. Not a whole lot of stress on the internals. There are people on Honda Forums that push their engine past 320 and blow rods. The point of this car is to be fun. practical daily anyways or a mountain carving car.. at least to me lol.
Use a JB4 from Burger motorsport, is what I'm using on my type R with fbo. This unit is 100% untraceable and is NOT locked to your vin number,you can also switch maps.
Love the LKAS, but ACC is definitely annoying at times especially when you wanna do a quick pull and forget it’s on 😅 gotta turn it off when having fun lol
If you want to help against that jerking, I typically let my car get to operating temps before leaving. And add about 3-6% throttle when you hit the engagement point, but like he said you need to be shifting a lot quicker with rev hang. Easier to tell your TPS with ktuner v2
Cameron Hill btw I didn’t mean that in a negative way, it was just a little funny to me. Also, I’m sorry about the car getting broken into. Thieves are the worst. Just keep up your grind.
My clutch did really well until about 15k, and then I started to get slipping. Not a big deal, just put in a better clutch with a lighter flywheel, and enjoy it some more.
I think that the reason the tune doesn’t upload is sometimes the ECU goes into recovery mode and you don’t notice unless you’re watching the whole time. This happened to me so many times lol
That weird jerkiness thing would happen on my 370Z when I got a lightweight clutch/flywheel kit. It was incredibly annoying but thankfully it's something I learned how to deal with and got used to so I don't think it would bother me too much
Change the oil every 3-4k miles, AMs or Royal purp, stage 2+ since 11k Miles, Stock Clutch, MAPerformance CAI, DOWNpipe, MISMO Intercooler, 45k Miles, Not a single problem. These cars are proving their reliability, and they're insane performers for the cash. MAPPer Best Tuner by far, Tried TSP, Ktuner, and Mapp and it wasn't close, Get a motor Mount, and short throw adapter and weighted shift knob, next thing for me is 19inch Lighter forged wheels, which im most likly going to be keeping after I trade it in for a type r next summer
I purchased the window deflectors from two step....the 4 piece..they didn’t fit,it was like pulling there teeth too send back too them.It turned into a he says,she says.long story short,they finally decided too send pre payed postage.I sent pics of the non fit,not cool Two Step,but it was sent back on there dime.thanks for letting me rant about Two step,the sunroof deflector that I bought from them was fine..
Hey everyone! From my understanding, dealerships are able to find out if you tuned your car or not if they use their scan tool. This is how they determine whether or not they’ll warranty your vehicle in case something happens. They’re able to see what tuner/program you use as well as the date/time you tuned the vehicle
Kirk Lazarus yes! I agree 💯. I’m used to driving old cars like 1st gen RX7’s and 3rd gen z28’s with manual gear boxes. Was defiantly a learning curve when I got the 2018 civic si. Even thought I been driving cars for almost 30years.
This video puts a lot introspective. I didn't account for the extra wear and tear on the components of my car by putting the K-Tuner on. Even worse, didn't realize it was going to void my warranty and I have the extended warranty put in my payments. So I'm paying that extra money for nothing now? And I have a factory recall that I have to get fixed and I'm afraid now they won't fix it because I avoided my warranty by buying this 😢
hey man. i just installed tsp stage 1+ to my 2017 si. knock control is rising at 10-20. the mods ive put so far are mishimoto CAI, mishimoto front intercooler, uppipe and maperformance downpipe.
Enjoy my 18 civic sport hatch with the 1.5t / 6spd. What cars would you consider the next step up from a civic si? WRX/GTI? Torn on either modding the car or just getting a different platform.
You should watch some videos from engineering explained to help you understand rev matching and why your shifts are rough sometimes. Helped me a lot when I first got my car. Also just wondering you made a video awhile ago talking about how bad the front collision mitigation system was triggering in certain driving scenarios. Just curious if that's still happening? I have a Civic base w/ manual and I'm looking to get a Civic sport hatch w/ manual for my next car
Question. So I reflashed to stock. Deleted software. Re downloaded software and tune onto the device and then reflashed.. did you actually delete all the tunes that were on the device as well? Like clear em all? Or just basically what I did? Cuz what I did didn’t fix the issue
exactly. I didnt want to veer too far off the beaten path of this video, but yes, you are correct. Im going to make a full comparison of all the 10th gen civic models once I can test drive an R and a couple base models too
One more comment 27 won just released a full inner cooler kit that adds 20hp and 15 torque but it comes with the inner cooler and full piping kit. Sorry for all the comments but UA-cam loves it lol
I've got a 2020 Si for 5 Months now, only issue i've had with the car is the Android Auto occasionally cuts out and it always says "check cable" which, i've gone through 3 cables now and it still happens. other than that, love the car
@@Camhill182 i think its cause I use amazon brand cords, but verizon wants and arm and a leg for an OEM Type-C cord. But ive never had this issue in other cars using off brand
I don't remember all the differences, but the si has slightly stronger rods. It also has a slightly lower compression ratio, which means it can take more boost, safely, on the stock turbo.
It's nice when you first get a tsp tune but a pro tune is always gonna be better when you look into how much power you're leaving on the table. Tsp tune is like a more refined basemap.
Yo I love this video thank you for it I am going to buy a Civic SI 10th gen too and because of this I am also going to use this tune as well. I follow you on insta now and u will follow up on things you do with the car 👌🏽
damn i wish i knew about this before i bought my ktuner just a week ago hahahah now im planning on buying the tsp stage 1. and i think im gonna base it off ur advice on getting an intercooler first! though i already have my prl sri race maf intake haha
Im glad my video could help. I live in a very warm area, so a cold air intake is the way to go here, but it still does NOTHING compared to what an intercooler upgrade is capable of. In fact, im pretty sure the cold air intake upgrades for our cars only allow more air to be sucked in. Im not sure they even do anything as far as cooling.
Quesation, what about changing the back mufflers for a single one, a short ram like Mishimoto one, and a Tune on the ori computer? to get some small boost like 15-20 hp ? is it not safe to? or a good compromise?
Je n'est aucun glissements pour les changements de vitesses . Installe ceci : SiriMoto N1 Clutch Master Cylinder Honda Civic Si 2017-2020. J'ai le hondata avec le + 9 psi et je n'est aucun problème . Tu as raison pour le intercooler , sa va vous donner une meilleur performance a haut régime !!
I been thinking of buying the ktuner v2. I am watching all your old ktuner videos. I was certain on buying it this weekend. But now I'm rethinking the decision. I know these cars are meant to be tuned as long as it's not a crazy aggressive tune if your mainly on stock parts which I am. But my concern has always been reliability, I know when you tune any car your putting more wear on all the components which is understandable. I would probably just use the lower map tunes that give me a little more boost and throttle response but won't go too crazy. Let me know if you or anyone can maybe help me feel more comfortable again in buying ktuner.
Can the two step tune be modified? I’m asking because one of the things I’m solving for is my engine is running too rich. I want to be able to adjust the AFR if I load a tune like this. Is that possible?
Hey Cam! Have you looked into water/methanol injection? I heard a lot of power gains on that mod... bigger than intercooler. As per my mechanic. 😊 cool vid!
I use hondata running 9 psi so it’s to 27 psi no problems mine had 100k mild on it as well also gives you a e85 tune also offers anti lag it sounds sick lol but don’t prefer it’s bad to the turbo
I wanna know what i need to replace or upgrade on my EX-t to make it comparable to the Si, cuz supposedly they have the same engine but weaker internals?
Your shifting problems, if I'm understanding it correctly, are coming from your engine speed being shower then your wheel speed. When you reengage the clutch it grabs the engine and brings it up to speed. What I do if I hold the clutch too long is just catch the revs with the throttle and it keeps it smooth.
What do you think about upgrading the charge pipes with the intercooler? I agree that the intercooler should be one of the first things, but changing those charge pipes seems like such a pain.
Because of this video I canceled my ktuner order to get it off of two step! Thank you for saving me money!
I got it for 449 with the tune MWA HAHAHAHAHAH from TSP.
I did the same thing. I got mine the other day and when I was updating the ktuner on my computer the screen went black and was unresponsive didn't want to do anything. I got in contact with ktuner and they told me to send it back to them.. I was so bummed out. I hope to get it back in working conditions next week so I can finally flash the tsp stage 1 tune.
@@mrcivicsi20good luck! Mines still working great, I just set the tune and then never looked back. The shift points feel godly compared to stock. I went back for a week and thought I broke the car because of how jerky the original shift points were. Only downside is the 93 gas but it’s been worth it
@Warr1895 yeah I have put 93 since I bought the car. So I'm cool with that. But I can't wait to get it back and flash it. What tune are you using? Tsp stage 1?
@@mrcivicsi20it’s been so long I cannot remember what one I want with. If TSP 1 has where you can manually switch the the different boost amounts I ended up not liking that one. Since it reset every time you turned off the car. I ended up just doing the preloaded one that changed the PSI to 18. So it was the most aggressive one. Makes the world of difference 😂 it was keeping up or beating my 2017 v6 mustang (but with twice the mpg) so I sold the stang 😂
I love Cameron’s videos but I’ll be honest it’s misleading when people say KTuner voids your warranty immediately after flashing. I have friends in a XGenz Civic group running FBO + e85 & PRL Big Turbo and they still get warranty work at Honda. The thing Cameron didn’t mention is that you can modify your car any way you want and Honda has to prove that your after market part is what caused the problem or issue for your warranty to be voided.
Everything you need to know "to get up to speed on the TSP tune?" Mo' powah!
Seriously though great video before I get my own ktuner!
Still prefer a tuner for this car. There's always going to be pros/cons to everything. Good in-depth video. Thanks brother!
Just bought a 2020 civic si coupe a few months ago. Your channel has been more informative and entertaining that anyones. Thanks brotha
Thank you so much!
Thanks for being so informative and straight to the chase. I’ve been doing a lot of research and so many videos are cut with so much fluff/mis-information. Great vid!
thanks! that was my intent with this one!
I did the same and did a cold air intake, then the Ktuner with TSP stage 1 the following day. It is still a bit chilly where I live, and I can totally see getting an upgraded intercooler. My experiences so far, is that I mostly roll with MAP 2, unless I am on a slower road that has a lot of twists and turns. Then I switch to MAP 1 because the stock all-season tires get overwhelmed. When I am on the interstate and want to really haul the goods, I put her on MAP 3 and start handing out ass whoopins! I do run 93 octane with 10% ethanol and she loves it! I get very LOW knock control readings with the 93. All in all, it has been the greatest car I have ever owned, blending performance, economy, and practicality. I have put almost 4,000 miles on the car in 40 days, and it is at 15,000 miles now. I have averaged 30 mpg for the whole duration of my command. I have seen over 51 mpg after the tune on MAP 1, with the cruise set at 55 mph and shifting at no more than 2500 rpm & feathering the gas. It is truly remarkable. I am currently working on upgrading the audio and that in itself will be pricey to do it right. It will definitely be challenging, but so worth it, as I am an audiophile of sorts. There's some good info about the premium audio on the GENx forum! Anyway, your videos are awesome, keep it going - I will be waiting!
Finally got my SI. Can’t wait to tune it
Awsome vid cam, keep dropping them bangers! been wanting to tune so bad but shes my daily, this helped alot!
no problem dan. Thanks for watching. I wouldnt be too scared to tune it. ive beat mine to a pulp already and its still going strong
2006 RSX here, 180 000km with original clutch, not always beaten tho (owned the car for 10 000km and previous owner didn't beat it as far as I know). Still shifts like a dream and never slips. Honda makes good clutches, I would not be worried if I were you. And changing a clutch is pocket change compared to all the fun beating a car can provide lol.
1:42 To answer your question as to why some people buy it elsewhere instead of from 2 step performance...i bought my ktuner from ebay instead of 2 step performance because there was a 15% discount code from ebay during that time (wish ebay would do these coupons again). The seller puts it up as new at the price of $425, with an "offer" option. So I offered the price at $400, then plus the 15% off discount code. So I only paid $340 for a Ktuner v1.2. I was ok with the base maps that came with it and didn't need the TSP tune. I've been using the dual 21 psi since then, nothing fancy.
Thanks for taking the time to make this! I’ve been debating what mods I should do first and I figured intercooler was best choice to go with first especially since i’m in Dallas and it’s hot as hell
Glad this could help!
Diego Castellanos definitely get it it’s a great mod
Bipolar Gamers Extra I wonder if upgrading charge pipes would help a little. Less expensive than an intake system.
as technician for honda. YES manufacturer can see if you have tuned your car previously even if you go back to a stock tune. We just had a type r come in for transmission problem, but as soon as our guys came in they instantly voided JUST the engine and transmission warranty for the vehicle after they scanned it.
Yikes.. do these new Type R engines have any big problems? Any of them blowing up?
Cameron Hill as far as I know not currently but we just got our shipment of new Type r last week they’re still in our show room but we have yet to get a new one for mechanical problems
What color and what are you selling for?
Cameron Hill sticker price plus mark up still. We have black and white currently
And also you can run a gallon of e85 with a full tank of gas if you’re like on 91 octane that gets you to 93 octane and if you’re on 93 octane that’ll get to 95 octane plus your fuel becomes E15 blend and you’ll get just a little colder mixture
True. Tsp used 93 octane on a dyno.
Sweet! To bad I cant find E85 here.. I have ti get it custom made.
On another note, will the car even run the e85 with out tht the equiptment? I get that its just a little bit, but Ive never messed with it. I am TSP tuned because of Cameron lol
This video helped a lot bro! I was thinking about my next mod ark performance exhaust or prl intercooler this made my mind up 🤘 great video for our 10th gens 🤝
Great video, I currently have 161,000 miles on my 2017 CIVIC HATCHBACK SPORT, cvt. I just finished paying it off and am deciding between a new Si or type R as a daily commuter. I drive 600 to and from every weekened for my job. Honda makes makes great engines!
I work at a Honda in Orange County and we can tell when someone flashed their car.their is a service bulletin for type r specifically will not have their engine replaced when they blow up due to tuning. Common problems for si are rough idle and transmission issues when tuned, But there is hope for si owners most dealerships don’t care about tuning most of the times when it comes to sis most service advicers and managers don’t know what tuning is and most first major issues that come with tuning will be covered. The vehicles that tend to have their vehicle black listed “void warranty” happens when people come in constantly for major mechanical problems that are obviously modded. The technicians will get annoyed of working on the same car and dig deeper on why things keep break I.e checking the computer to see if it’s been flashed.
Interesting. Thanks for the insight
what dealer so i can come to you lmao been trying to find a good dealer but in the IE they're not that great
Neato I'll probably risk it for shits and giggles anyway. Already got hit in my 2020 Sedan Si luckily the collision shop did a great job repairing it. The dealership had to replace the turbo manifold and the entire engine harness on her dime.
Dolphin xx69xx crazy!!! Lmao how much to fix repairs though??? Gj on that!!! Haha
Very true on the intercooler I would say it’s the most important upgrade besides the tune. Love the build man!
Literally binge watched your civic videos and just found out you also live in Sacramento. Was thinking of getting my first new car from a 94 Integra. Keep up the work!
Good solid video bro! I have plenty of fun driving my 2020 Si completely STOCK! yes I would love a tune and FMIC CAI and exhaust, etc. in time maybe. Still, hit 136mph on stock in no time flat haha love the Si and everything about it is nice. I used to get bad rev hang, but now, either I don’t notice it as much, or I’ve perfected my shifting to limit the amount of rev hang and I honestly can’t remember the last time I had rev hang on it. Think it’s all about how you drive and shifting points. But it was worse and now rev hang is better if not virtually completely gone, somehow lol
What’s rev hang?... lol I’m a newb
Always a great way to start my day to watch your videos bro. Keep up the good work.
Honda can tell if your car has been flashed. We did a specific flash reset to all the modules on the car after returning back to stock and the dealership found out it was flashed. The no lift shift has lead to people breaking 3rd and 4th gears on the transmissions.
It’s a total different car with the tune. I’ve had clutch slippage problem in 4th and 5th gear. I’ve noticed it most when I try to give too much power at lower rpm’s. Looks like an ACT clutch is in my near future 😜. I had the 20psi problem for a bit. I ended re-downloading the tune again and it seemed to fix the issue (weird). You hit the nail on the head with the heat stroke on these cars. I have the Mishimoto intercooler already. My next purchase is going to be the Koyorad radiator. Summer is coming and we have to keep are cars as cool as possible. Love the vid man, great info. Can’t wait for the next.
thanks Brandon. Let me know how that clutch is when you get it on!
You can fine tune PSI just for 5 and 6 Gear?
The reason it happens is because your revs fall below they're destined speed for the next year before you can shift them and you are used to the opposite. A slight tap to the the throttle may help if you wanna take your time shifting.
LMFAO!! The ending got me cracking up! But very good informative video Cameron! I hope everyone knows you gotta pay to play when it comes to modifying your car out of the stock parameters. It's all about the journey and the process and that's why we do what we do to our cars!
Great Video!! Glad i came across it, i was just about to buy a K-Tuner V2 from a different website until I watched this! Just purchased it from TSP with the Stage1 tune! Thanks
I was just bout to order one on another website, Thank you King
I’ve been waiting for this Video for a while thanks man
I have the non-Si tune and it is 100% worth it as well. TSP has done a great job and thanks for the video.
Michael Forcino I got this actually it’s great with my prl cobra race Maf and fx350 lightweight flywheel and I run a gallon of e85 with a full tank of 93 and that helps power just a touch also
Is your car stock?
Im still driving around in my 2012 Civic Si. Had it for 8 years now. 242,000 miles. Stock.
Fantastic review and insights - as a DIY tuner it’s all about doing your hw & due diligence!
I thought those streets looked familiar. I am in the Sac area as well. I've got a 18 Civic Hatch Sport 6spd in polished metal metallic.
Great video! Especially about getting the TSP 1 set up. I have the same problem and emailed (twice) TSP. Their answer definitely wasn’t helpful at all which sucks because I heard they have great customer service. I’m going to try your fix and hope it works. Really want to see what this tune can do.
that really sucks that they don't really make that strong of an effort to either fix the problem, develop a more detailed upload tutorial, or something.. anything.. that really is shitty
Cameron Hill, definitely makes think about using someone else for my intercooler and other parts.
It doesn’t ‘void your warranty’. It voids the warranty of any particular part(s) directly impacted by the tune. A tune won’t void your warranty on you power window for example (sounds silly to say but many don’t understand that). And the dealer has to prove/provide that the tune causes the part(s) failure (usually a because-I-said is enough but the mfg’er has final say).
What’s the benefit of this vs. a Hondata tune that’s supported by dealers? And does a higher PSI cause clutch slippage as reported by some?
10th Gen Accord owner here. Content so good I had to subscribe 😂🙏🏿
Thanks!
Another great video bro!
Awesome video Cameron as always!! I want to tune and mod my TypeR but I am hesitant to void the warranty! I have my TypeR paid off and it’s nice not to have a car payment and I am debating to take the chance!! If i do do modifications to it I think I would get inter cooler, intake , tune and some sort of exhaust mod! I don’t think I would do anything more than those boltons! I always appreciate your insightful videos and I appreciate how you say it like it is!! ! Your channel is one of my favorite out of all of them car related channels I watch! Keep up the incredible content Cam!! I hope to talk soon!! God bless!! 🚙🚙🚙😀😀😀👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽
Thanks Shaun. You don't need to tune that thing! its already a beast as it is!
Thanks! this is a very good Q&A video!
Not a Honda tech, but a Ford tech. We just denied warranty on a Focus ST because after digging a bit the drive cyle counter on the car was at 3, which shows 3 ingnition cyles since the PCM was flashed. Meaning they messed something up and flashed it to stock to have us look at it. (I wasn't the one assigned to the job so I don't know the details) So yes the dealer can tell when you flash your PCM. I imagine Honda's dealer scanner can access that same info. Just a heads up guys!
I plan on buying a 2020 Si in October and tbh the best results are from people who have the car around 250-260 WHP. That's simply only a slight tune and some bolt-ons. Not a whole lot of stress on the internals. There are people on Honda Forums that push their engine past 320 and blow rods. The point of this car is to be fun. practical daily anyways or a mountain carving car.. at least to me lol.
Good upload man!
Thanks!
Just got my Black Coupe Si,. Your paint job looks sweet good job!
MrTurbografix 16 im actually wrapping it!
@@Camhill182 oh no way, very cool!
Use a JB4 from Burger motorsport, is what I'm using on my type R with fbo.
This unit is 100% untraceable and is NOT locked to your vin number,you can also switch maps.
Can you DM me on instagram eith more info on this?
Make sure to note you must have the ACC/LKAS off using the MAIN button on the wheel, if it's on you can't change the map on the fly.
Love the LKAS, but ACC is definitely annoying at times especially when you wanna do a quick pull and forget it’s on 😅 gotta turn it off when having fun lol
Ray M all too many times that’s happened to me 😂
The one sound effect at like 12:45 ish was kinda weird but great video learned a lot thank you
thats what I was shooting for. using all sorts of sound effects to keep people engaged
Nice videos buying an Si very soon! Been watching for a little gonna subscribe now great content
thanks!
Derek posts dyno number all the time usually on IG with 27won turbo and full bolt ons for the 10th gens, and then some.
If you want to help against that jerking, I typically let my car get to operating temps before leaving. And add about 3-6% throttle when you hit the engagement point, but like he said you need to be shifting a lot quicker with rev hang. Easier to tell your TPS with ktuner v2
Love this vid. Thanks for all the info
Lol the awkwardness at 11:00. Thanks for the info man.
i just missed that in editing. and yea man no prob. more to come
Cameron Hill btw I didn’t mean that in a negative way, it was just a little funny to me. Also, I’m sorry about the car getting broken into. Thieves are the worst. Just keep up your grind.
My clutch did really well until about 15k, and then I started to get slipping. Not a big deal, just put in a better clutch with a lighter flywheel, and enjoy it some more.
Always best way to start my mornings 🔥
I think that the reason the tune doesn’t upload is sometimes the ECU goes into recovery mode and you don’t notice unless you’re watching the whole time. This happened to me so many times lol
hm, interesting
That weird jerkiness thing would happen on my 370Z when I got a lightweight clutch/flywheel kit. It was incredibly annoying but thankfully it's something I learned how to deal with and got used to so I don't think it would bother me too much
Fuck I just got a new lightweight fly wheel and clutch kit. Let's hope we're good
so my Si with a tsp stage 1 we get 260 whp and 268 lb-ft?
Thanks for posting this!
Change the oil every 3-4k miles, AMs or Royal purp, stage 2+ since 11k Miles, Stock Clutch, MAPerformance CAI, DOWNpipe, MISMO Intercooler, 45k Miles, Not a single problem. These cars are proving their reliability, and they're insane performers for the cash. MAPPer Best Tuner by far, Tried TSP, Ktuner, and Mapp and it wasn't close, Get a motor Mount, and short throw adapter and weighted shift knob, next thing for me is 19inch Lighter forged wheels, which im most likly going to be keeping after I trade it in for a type r next summer
The wrap looks great
thanks man
I purchased the window deflectors from two step....the 4 piece..they didn’t fit,it was like pulling there teeth too send back too them.It turned into a he says,she says.long story short,they finally decided too send pre payed postage.I sent pics of the non fit,not cool Two Step,but it was sent back on there dime.thanks for letting me rant about Two step,the sunroof deflector that I bought from them was fine..
Hey everyone! From my understanding, dealerships are able to find out if you tuned your car or not if they use their scan tool. This is how they determine whether or not they’ll warranty your vehicle in case something happens. They’re able to see what tuner/program you use as well as the date/time you tuned the vehicle
Have you removed the delay valve yet from the clutch slave cylinder? I've heard it helps with the jerking when shifting.
Especially when going from 1st to 2nd.
Kirk Lazarus yes! I agree 💯. I’m used to driving old cars like 1st gen RX7’s and 3rd gen z28’s with manual gear boxes. Was defiantly a learning curve when I got the 2018 civic si. Even thought I been driving cars for almost 30years.
This video puts a lot introspective. I didn't account for the extra wear and tear on the components of my car by putting the K-Tuner on. Even worse, didn't realize it was going to void my warranty and I have the extended warranty put in my payments. So I'm paying that extra money for nothing now? And I have a factory recall that I have to get fixed and I'm afraid now they won't fix it because I avoided my warranty by buying this 😢
hey man. i just installed tsp stage 1+ to my 2017 si. knock control is rising at 10-20. the mods ive put so far are mishimoto CAI, mishimoto front intercooler, uppipe and maperformance downpipe.
Thank you sir! Love the videos and the car!
1000% you’re welcome
And thanks!
Enjoy my 18 civic sport hatch with the 1.5t / 6spd. What cars would you consider the next step up from a civic si? WRX/GTI? Torn on either modding the car or just getting a different platform.
Im a fan of the muscle cars. I would get a Challenger Scat Pack if my car got totaled today
@@Camhill182 As someone in the Northeast that get winters, that'd be a dream to daily lol
You should watch some videos from engineering explained to help you understand rev matching and why your shifts are rough sometimes. Helped me a lot when I first got my car. Also just wondering you made a video awhile ago talking about how bad the front collision mitigation system was triggering in certain driving scenarios. Just curious if that's still happening? I have a Civic base w/ manual and I'm looking to get a Civic sport hatch w/ manual for my next car
Another awesome vid👍
Thanks for all the grate info !
I heard no info about grates! LMAO
Wrap lookin sweet and I think it’d be even better with a black roof and chrome delete.
Question. So I reflashed to stock. Deleted software. Re downloaded software and tune onto the device and then reflashed.. did you actually delete all the tunes that were on the device as well? Like clear em all? Or just basically what I did? Cuz what I did didn’t fix the issue
Great info!
Non si models actually have a little more compression ratio that’s why the boost levels are lower and some of its the rods being a touch weaker
exactly. I didnt want to veer too far off the beaten path of this video, but yes, you are correct. Im going to make a full comparison of all the 10th gen civic models once I can test drive an R and a couple base models too
Nice channel. I got your note on my car (blue sti) at work and yea I'd be interested in linking up sometime.
Hey Mark! Do you have an instagram i could follow?
@@Camhill182 for sure @mjhorner85 or @Blue_Devil_STI
Try some boostane. It will mitigate some heat soak by reducing knock. Made a noticeable difference on my ktuned accord. Doesn't foul plugs. Very safe
One more comment 27 won just released a full inner cooler kit that adds 20hp and 15 torque but it comes with the inner cooler and full piping kit. Sorry for all the comments but UA-cam loves it lol
hm, ill have to check that out. Thanks for letting me know!
Great information, keep it up 👍
Running v1.2 with 19.5 base map and not planning go any higher. Removing rev hang alone was worth it.
Smart
I've got a 2020 Si for 5 Months now, only issue i've had with the car is the Android Auto occasionally cuts out and it always says "check cable" which, i've gone through 3 cables now and it still happens. other than that, love the car
Hm, im not sure what thats all about. I have an iphone
@@Camhill182 i think its cause I use amazon brand cords, but verizon wants and arm and a leg for an OEM Type-C cord. But ive never had this issue in other cars using off brand
You need a legit cord is the issue hahah not a third party, I worked at Honda as a sales rep for a year. That’s a common issue for most drivers.
I love the wrap 😍😍
Was the dudes cobalt tuned as well because 260 is just 10 hp more
Noob here (just bought a 2021 fk7 as my first car), how come the si makes 55hp and the regular 1.5t cars make 32. What is the difference between them?
I don't remember all the differences, but the si has slightly stronger rods. It also has a slightly lower compression ratio, which means it can take more boost, safely, on the stock turbo.
@@Camhill182 thanks, also are there any concerns with doing this on a cvt?
Ummm not really. Phearable and Two Step Performance both made really good and reliable tunes for them
Good video bro keep it up
It's nice when you first get a tsp tune but a pro tune is always gonna be better when you look into how much power you're leaving on the table. Tsp tune is like a more refined basemap.
Yo I love this video thank you for it I am going to buy a Civic SI 10th gen too and because of this I am also going to use this tune as well. I follow you on insta now and u will follow up on things you do with the car 👌🏽
damn i wish i knew about this before i bought my ktuner just a week ago hahahah now im planning on buying the tsp stage 1. and i think im gonna base it off ur advice on getting an intercooler first! though i already have my prl sri race maf intake haha
Im glad my video could help. I live in a very warm area, so a cold air intake is the way to go here, but it still does NOTHING compared to what an intercooler upgrade is capable of. In fact, im pretty sure the cold air intake upgrades for our cars only allow more air to be sucked in. Im not sure they even do anything as far as cooling.
@@Camhill182 now its just to decide which intercooler to get im thinking prl but i wanna do more research before going with it
Just subbed amazing vid
That's why my clutch is stage 3 😁
P.s. I blew the stock clutch chasing a Beemer on the highway. Down shift and the clutch sunk.
Quesation, what about changing the back mufflers for a single one, a short ram like Mishimoto one, and a Tune on the ori computer? to get some small boost like 15-20 hp ? is it not safe to? or a good compromise?
Je n'est aucun glissements pour les changements de vitesses . Installe ceci : SiriMoto N1 Clutch Master Cylinder Honda Civic Si 2017-2020.
J'ai le hondata avec le + 9 psi et je n'est aucun problème .
Tu as raison pour le intercooler , sa va vous donner une meilleur performance a haut régime !!
Great video!
Would you happen to know how to tell if the tunes did not load correctly besides by watching boost?
I been thinking of buying the ktuner v2. I am watching all your old ktuner videos. I was certain on buying it this weekend. But now I'm rethinking the decision. I know these cars are meant to be tuned as long as it's not a crazy aggressive tune if your mainly on stock parts which I am. But my concern has always been reliability, I know when you tune any car your putting more wear on all the components which is understandable. I would probably just use the lower map tunes that give me a little more boost and throttle response but won't go too crazy. Let me know if you or anyone can maybe help me feel more comfortable again in buying ktuner.
I'm at 45k miles hondata, greddy sp, prl front/down and still no clutch issues. But I don't race from anything less than a 30 roll.
Can the two step tune be modified? I’m asking because one of the things I’m solving for is my engine is running too rich. I want to be able to adjust the AFR if I load a tune like this. Is that possible?
Hey Cam! Have you looked into water/methanol injection? I heard a lot of power gains on that mod... bigger than intercooler. As per my mechanic. 😊 cool vid!
Tell me more!!! :)
I use hondata running 9 psi so it’s to 27 psi no problems mine had 100k mild on it as well also gives you a e85 tune also offers anti lag it sounds sick lol but don’t prefer it’s bad to the turbo
I wanna know what i need to replace or upgrade on my EX-t to make it comparable to the Si, cuz supposedly they have the same engine but weaker internals?
Your shifting problems, if I'm understanding it correctly, are coming from your engine speed being shower then your wheel speed. When you reengage the clutch it grabs the engine and brings it up to speed.
What I do if I hold the clutch too long is just catch the revs with the throttle and it keeps it smooth.
What a wonderful video
What do you think about upgrading the charge pipes with the intercooler? I agree that the intercooler should be one of the first things, but changing those charge pipes seems like such a pain.