1) The only ones that I recognize at this roundtable are Prager, Pageau, Peterson, Barron, and Vervaeke. I respect Barron because he's an actual cleric. Pageau is also tied to a church, but it seems like he's responding to the secularization of society by trying to reenchant Biblical symbolism. The Iliad and the Aeneid are full of symbols as well so he's not actually making a good case for being a Christian specifically instead of a Muslim, a Hindu, or a Buddhist. Everyone else in this group is into "cultural Christianity" for political reasons or materialist reasons like evolutionary psychology. 2) Besides jacking themselves off, it's very funny that at the end of the video Prager needs these Christians to reassure him that Christianity is not against his people and their influence.
@@aesop1451 I couldn't finish the video. Comparing baptism to Genesis and then Mary. Mary was blessed to have birthed Jesus. Nothing more, nothing less. It is wrong for catholic's to idolize her.
@@mr.metamovies2419 Are you asking about the nature of God's existence, how He is sustained, or something else? Either way, God exists as an immaterial, eternal, and transcendent being, yet He is also immanent-present within His creation. The Bible affirms this: “For in Him we live and move and exist” (Acts 17:28), and “The heavens declare the glory of God” (Psalm 19:1). God’s aseity-His self-existence-means He depends on nothing for His being. He revealed Himself as “I AM WHO I AM” (Exodus 3:14), signifying His eternal, self-sufficient nature. Unlike finite beings bound by time and decay, God is eternal and unchanging. His perfection encompasses holiness, love, wisdom, and power (Isaiah 6:3; Romans 11:33), making Him uniquely fitted as Creator and Sustainer of the universe. As finite beings, comprehending a transcendent God who is not bound by time, space, or decay can feel overwhelming. Yet, God reveals Himself in glimpses: through creation, His Word, and ultimately in Jesus Christ, who is “the exact representation of His being” (Hebrews 1:3). His transcendence reminds us of His sovereignty, while His immanence assures us of His care and involvement in our lives. “The eternal God is your dwelling place” (Deuteronomy 33:27). Though we cannot fully grasp His infinite nature, scripture encourages us to seek Him, as “His eternal power and divine nature” are evident in creation (Romans 1:20). Understanding Him is a journey of faith and reason, one that invites awe and trust in the One who is the source of all existence. Hope this helps.
@@mr.metamovies2419I don't understand your boxed-in confusion. Since we're two strangers on the internet and likely have nothing useful in common it's difficult to answer a question as unspecified as yours, but much like the creator of a train set is not bound within the rules of the trainset's existence in order to exist himself, God doesn't have to exist with the rules of human existence in order to exist Himself. As the creator of space and time He exists outside of space and time by His own being. As a train I don't understand how a human could possibly exist because I'm made of wood, but it seems you're assuming that since you're made of wood, muscles and neurons cannot possibly exist. If a monotheistic God is real it's not any kind of hurtle of thought to understand that He's different since He made everything. If you're an S-type in meyers Briggs or have t learned how to think outside of your own perimeters it might be difficult for you to comprehend, and I might be explaining something that you're not asking about. I have no way of knowing for sure what your broad question meant. But hopefully I provided a leg-up for you to have a better footing while you think about things. GLHF
Actually, sin, transgressions, and iniquity are all separate things. They are even mentioned separately together in several verses. Sin is separation from G-o-d, primarily through ignorance. Transgressions are trespasses, traversing into God's presence unauthorized and uninvited - hence, choosing to worship and serve Him in your own way. Iniquity is lawlessness; perverting the law. Those who are lawless, our Messiah will tell to depart from Him [workers of iniquity].
@@mr.metamovies2419 Are you asking about the nature of God's existence, how He is sustained, or something else? Either way, God exists as an immaterial, eternal, and transcendent being, yet He is also immanent-present within His creation. The Bible affirms this: “For in Him we live and move and exist” (Acts 17:28), and “The heavens declare the glory of God” (Psalm 19:1). God’s aseity-His self-existence-means He depends on nothing for His being. He revealed Himself as “I AM WHO I AM” (Exodus 3:14), signifying His eternal, self-sufficient nature. Unlike finite beings bound by time and decay, God is eternal and unchanging. His perfection encompasses holiness, love, wisdom, and power (Isaiah 6:3; Romans 11:33), making Him uniquely fitted as Creator and Sustainer of the universe. As finite beings, comprehending a transcendent God who is not bound by time, space, or decay can feel overwhelming. Yet, God reveals Himself in glimpses: through creation, His Word, and ultimately in Jesus Christ, who is “the exact representation of His being” (Hebrews 1:3). His transcendence reminds us of His sovereignty, while His immanence assures us of His care and involvement in our lives. “The eternal God is your dwelling place” (Deuteronomy 33:27). Though we cannot fully grasp His infinite nature, scripture encourages us to seek Him, as “His eternal power and divine nature” are evident in creation (Romans 1:20). Understanding Him is a journey of faith and reason, one that invites awe and trust in the One who is the source of all existence.
When bishop Barron speaks it’s like being thrown a bucket of water on a hot day. Or getting to sit around the fire on a cold one. Or when you find the place for the last piece of the puzzle. Like a gentle breeze on a summers day. Such pleasant relief and gentle joy to my ears and soul from a father and gentleman of the Church.
@@nicewhenearnedrudemostlyel489 to be exactly idolatry one would have to give worship to something (specifically, an inanimate object) with the intention of deifying that thing as god. Nothing the Bishop has said, nor the author of the comment above, appears to give worship or sacrifice to anything other than God. Or perhaps you just have an issue with honoring God's creation?? Many merely honor God, many actually worship Him. What you might mistake for worship or idolatry could be confused for veneration?
@@nicewhenearnedrudemostlyel489 Idolatry is worship of an idol. An idol classically is a physical object with a pagan god inhabiting it. An idol in neotheological terms is anything that is worshipped like God but is not God. To worship is to 1. to give something ultimate worth to, and 2. to sacrifice to. Complimenting someone on some facet of theirs that they excel in is not even remotely close to either of the things required for worship.
@@rosslander96 Why does the catholic church idolize Mary? Mary was a human who was blessed because she gave birth to Jesus Christ. Nothing more, nothing less. God's Word.
@@LB_die_Kaapie true but I do want to be charitable towards the prots who actually do affirm baptismal regeneration, it’s not everyone of them who denies it, but yes the one who do would have much different kind of reaction
Comparing Geneisis to baptism and Mary as more than a blessed human who gave birth to Jesus Christ...Let the Holy Ghost and God's Word, the Bible guide you. Not youtube videos, unless you fact check everything with God's Word.
As a devout Catholic I perfectly understand the praise for Bishop Barron and Jonathan however, I think a lot of viewers are not understanding how important Dennis Prager is to this conversation. Firstly, because as Bishop Barron mentioned the Old Testament is absolutely critical to the New Testament and in my experience, majority of Christians and Catholics do not fully understand that. But secondly, Dennis Prager is the testing stone for the Christian beliefs, meaning Christians will always agree with each other in general in these conversations, but you need somebody who comes from the same love and understanding of God, but who has different theological views to push and probe back in order for the Christians to truly understand their beliefs and flesh out the truths! Fantastic conversation
@@docsavage8640 Probably just his pride and reluctance of change of belief. To be fair, it is very difficult for anyone to admit that they are wrong and change their mind. At the very least, Prager brings another viewpoint for discussion which is always important in the search for truth.
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood enemies, but against rulers and authorities of the unseen world, against mighty powers in this dark world and against evil spirits in the heavenly realms! Ephesians 6:12
While it’s not biblically necessary, I hope they choose to follow Jesus for themselves. It does so much damage when it’s forced, and pushes people away.
Sad you have to buy the devils subscription to get a biblical study, Shapiro is a straight up demonic war lord. Please do not forget this man championed the Iraq war, advocates the Gaza genocide, Syrian war, Afghanistan war, Libyan war, he’s never met a mass slaughter fest he didn’t love. He also said you should be killed if you didn’t get vaxxed and championed lockdowns. Yes a truly dark and demonic force.
Biblical conversation is great could never support daily wire, Shapiro has supported every mass murder campaign we call war, he supported lockdowns, he said you should be removed from society if you weren’t vaxxed. Let’s please not forget how evil this man is.
This man, love the premise, of at least for a segment of time, of this information being able to be available to all who would seek it, to elevate the dispersal of knowledge of such critical importance over monetary return.
Jesus was baptized, I believe, for several reasons. But first and foremost was to simply show the Way that we need to follow. He is our perfect exemplar
Hence why John was confused by it. Not only did Jesus have no sins to repent of, John’s Baptism was not even the same kind of Baptism as Jesus would eventually preach. But, like Joshua, Jesus leads His people through the waters of the Jordan by His example.
I can't wait for this. December 1st can't get here fast enough. I finally subscribed to the dw specifically to watch this because the Exodus series was SO good
"Mary is the Virgin Waters, and the Spirit of God descends on her like in Gen 1:1" Never had this thought occur to me, but that is magnificent to think about.
I’m a born again 22 year old Christian from South Africa and I’m currently reading the Old Testament and I must say it is quite a bit to read but I’ve also enjoyed stories about the great men like Moses, Noah and King David. Also does anyone know if the covenant God makes with David at 2 Samuel 7 is about Jesus? God bless to all who read this message 🙏🏽
Yes, sir. It is absolutely about Jesus Christ. Mary, Jesus' mother was of the lineage of David, as was Joseph, his adopted father. As you know, God Almighty was the actual father of Jesus Christ, but he is counted as the lineage of David, and this promise is absolutely about him. [2Sa 7:12-13, 16 KJV] 12 And when thy days be fulfilled, and thou shalt sleep with thy fathers, I will set up thy seed after thee, which shall proceed out of thy bowels, and I will establish his kingdom. 13 He shall build an house for my name, and I will stablish the throne of his kingdom for ever. ... 16 And thine house and thy kingdom shall be established for ever before thee: thy throne shall be established for ever. God bless you nephew/brother! May you prosper abundantly in S. Africa! And don't forget to keep going back to the book of Ephesians and all the church epistles that are written to us believers.
@@gailhill8391 Great comment, 100% agree that Jesus is the fulfillment of the Davidic King promised on 2 Samuel 7. Just something to add, this chapter is also speaking to God's promise that Solomon would "build a house for my [God's] name" in reference to the Temple which would be completed by David's immediate heir King Solomon. This was Solomon's primary achievement during his reign. So yes, 2 Samuel 7 finds some immediate fulfillment in King Solomon but is ultimately fulfilled by our eternal King, the Lord Jesus who has "established the throne of his kingdom forever". God bless you both.
@@matta4371 A Study Bible by Charles Stanley 'Life's Principles Bible' would truly help all new and old believers who want to learn and grow using God's Word as guidance. Study the Old & New Testament together because they go hand in hand and having a King James study Bible helps us to connect the two. Pray for the Holy Spirit to guide you as you grow. Too many videos are not Biblical, such as this one. The Bible, God's Word, will teach you all you need to know. Baptism and Genesis are not intertwined as they mentioned and Mary is NOT any living water(s). She was the blessed mother of Jesus Christ and we should remember her as such. When doing a search online for questions, always type KJV at the beginning. KJV David, for example
Two witnesses needed to authenticate in Jewish culture. John is the forerunner and says " Behold the Lamb of God"(of Jesus) and God the Father's Voice ( they said It Thundered):"This is My Beloved Son in Whom I Am well pleased" Plus the Holy Spirit hovering in the form of a dove. This is more than the authentication required in the Jewish culture.
“In every country and in every age, the priest has been hostile to liberty. he is always in alliance with the Despot abetting his abuses in return for protection to his own. it is easier to acquire wealth and power by this combination than by deserving them: and to effect this they have perverted the purest religion ever preached to man, into mystery & jargon unintelligible to all mankind & therefore the safer engine for their purposes.” - Thomas Jefferson
This is incredibly stimulating! Such intellectual depth and respect are rare. I hope many more will be inspired by this. May the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob bless you and open your heart to His love and truth. ❤
Yes because he knows Jewish rites... These guys are word salad ramblers 😂... They dunno the real reason so they rambling The real reason is that Jesus was being anointed as a high priest who would take over from John... John was also a priest.
The Reverse Panel would be: Richard Dawkins, Sam Harris, Neil deGrasse Tyson, Steven Pinker, Stephen Fry, Bill Maher, Ricky Gervais, Neil Gaiman, and Alex O' Connor.
As someone attending an evangelical university, immersed in the culture of educated evangelicals, our respected voices are those, present and past, such as NT Wright, AW Toizer, CS Lewis, Tim Keller, Francis Chan, John Pieper & John Mark Comer. I would love to see voices like these included in Peterson’s round tables, not because their insights are so needed as an addition, but also as a marker of safety to educated evangelicals skeptical of Peterson and Pegeau’s psychological and symbolic interpretations that “these insights are for you, too!” Unfortunately too many in my context are too dismissive or too prideful to consider scripture in Peterson’s key. They are missing out on so much theological depth and richness. All truth is God’s truth, I say you! Onwards and upwards.
@@davidmusserUA-cam. Empty evangelical here. In many ways you’re right. Evangelicals play the role of gatekeeper for “biblical” truth. The irony is that Protestantism and Modernism are two sides of the same coin; every “hermeneutical exegesis” has followed every cultural trend, even if “we” didn’t create that trend. On that note, Peterson is introducing existential concerns in our contexts and tries to raise it to the empirical. And that’s the problem he is continually facing, since it is the other way around and he needs to see the empirical is not the highest concern. Where Evangelicals can learn is to have a deeper understanding of the experiential/existential concern without crying “relativism/ subjectivity / not biblical “! Ironic because we are so proud of our seeker communicability, but are rather toothless on the big social issues. Peterson is a good example of sincerity and courage in the face of a social order that seems more beast like everyday. But he needs to drop the hermetic alchemist, depth psychology model and understand the archetypal is in fact ontological. In other words, GOD is real and not simply the spirit of tradition. Like Hegel, he collapses God into our personal experience in a manner that distorts how God revealed himself. Because God is also a subject of action.
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Showing us the way to God through Christ, showing us how to become sons of God. Buried in baptism, raised to a new life. Christ said I’m the way, truth, life. Believe, baptism, communion.
Lord please give me strength and good health Father. I suffer from lupus, and heart disease. I have two beautiful boys both are special needs. I’m overwhelmed because they require so much from me. Every month is a struggle to not end up on the streets. Lord help me provide for my children. I KNOW you will.💕
Oh girl you need carnivore .. go now and research .. I have lupus too and I put it into remission .. change your entire diet . I also have a son with special needs . Once you get healthy you will be so much more calm and ready for the day .. dr Berg is good .. dr Chaffee .. go forth and read about carnivore or at least keto / animal based ..take back your health ! Everything you were told about lupus I’m sure was a lie ! You don’t have to be miserable , you don’t need long term steroids .. I will pray for you & your family !
From an Orthodox Christian Funeral: 'When Israel passed over the floor of the sea as if dry land, and beheld their pursuer Pharaoh drowning in the sea, with a loud voice they cried unto God, "Let us sing a song of victory!"'
In the Moses-communicated teachings, the ritual of being washed by water was required for anyone being ordained to the priesthood. The anointing of oil was required for becoming the king. Jesus did both rituals and attained to both positions. It was part of fulfilling the law.
This! Moses was instructed by God to wash Aaron before he could enter the tabernacle and become the first High Priest… John baptizing Jesus was the same thing, but for the last High Priest!
Hello Mr Peterson!!! My name is Daniel, and I listen to your podcast for some time and also pray for you and your family. I have great respect for you and your guests, and I rejoice when people take the bible seriously. I have a favor to asked, can you p lease listen to this teaching of pastor Tim Keller: "You must be born again. " Thank you for everything you do !!!
This verse is the answer to the question “why Jesus did things he didn’t need to do?” Hebrews 5:8 Even though Jesus was God’s Son, he learned obedience from the things he suffered.
Another take on this: Jesus was baptized as a ceremonial justification of his sacrifice. John was in the priestly tradition of Aaron (his mother and father where in that line). One of the responsibilities of the priest in the old temple was to justify the sacrifice is free from blemish. after his Baptism, the Almighty Father declared, he is well pleased.
btw, i cannot take credit for this- i first heard Sam Shamoun gave this explanation - it does seem there might be merit to this, when you look at it from the perspective of OT temple sacrifice.
John the Baptist baptized Jesus to fulfill all righteousness. This means that Jesus was providing the framework for all people to be like Him. Two sentences.
@@MohamedShouJesus tells are us we are all gods basically in the Bible. He says we will judge angels etc. Also, check out Psalms 82, and think on that one for a while! It is very interesting! =) I believe Jesus taught something similar to the law of One people in spiritual circles are talking about today. It's basically the same thing, if not the very teachings Jesus was teaching! It's all very incredible and eye opening.
@@MohamedShouwhen Jesus die and then resurrected from the dead. He make us similar to him, by taking our place so we can take his place. He take our suffering so we can live. But the life we get, it’s his life. Baptism, I believe its death and resurrection from dead.
1 Corinthians 3:19-21 19 For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. For it is written, “He catches the wise in their own craftiness”; 20 and again, “The Lord knows the thoughts of the wise, that they are futile.” 21 Therefore let no one boast in men. For all things are yours:
@@buildtomuch7299 are you saying these men are foolish in their words and discussions of the gospels? I don’t think any of these men are elevating themselves or the panel as a whole to the level of the Lord. I don’t see anyone in the comments exalting them in that manner either.
Ephesians 2:4 KJV "But GOD, who is rich in mercy, for HIS great love wherewith HE loved us, 5 even when we were dead in sins, has quickened us (made us alive) together with CHRIST, by grace you are saved 7 that in the ages to come HE might show the exceeding riches of HIS grace in HIS kindness toward us through CHRIST JESUS. 8 For by grace are you saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of GOD: 9 not of works, lest any man should boast."
Yes i experience His saving grace everyday when i repent daily for my daily sins. Not perfect so thank God for His mercy and grace and patience as I try my best to follow Jesus’ footsteps. The Lord loves effort. Thats what that scripture means, not that you don’t have to do nothing like judgement day isn’t a thing.
It is called a Mikva, one must walk into any river… And give its life to Yahuah in Yahusha’s 🩸 🙏 HalleluYah, and repent as your sins wash down the river. Shalom, from the lamb of… I AM.
Orthodox Christian here. I love Jonathan, but he failed to mention 2 absolutely critical Orthodox teachings on why Jesus was baptized, and the meaning of baptism. Firstly, it was the fulfillment of the OT covenant found in circumcision, and represents the new circumcision - the circumcision of the heart, of repentance. Additionally, it represents the new way someone enters into the Church. For Jews, this was circumcision - now, for the Jew and Gentile alike it is baptism. Secondly, Jesus was baptized to impart his divinity, energetically, into the water itself - sanctifying it, and giving the ordinary (water) the power to be a sacrament that saves. In the same way he was incarnated, divinizing our human nature, he did the same with the water. If he didn’t, then the water would have no power at all in a sacramental sense. This also plays into why we represent Jesus with icons - because he was always interacting with the physical, the material, and sanctifying it. It’s why icons can be windows to heaven, it’s why being baptized saves, it’s why our human nature is restored to its proper image. Although I agree with all of his points and parallels from the OT - this is what needs to be talked about first, and this is what you’ll find in a cathecetical lesson on baptism, and specifically Jesus being baptized in the Church.
- God's Word. He also claims baptism is tied to Genesis and Mary is 'living waters'. She was blessed for being chosen to be the mother of Jesus. Nothing more, nothing less. Infant baptism is also not Biblical.
To talk about Jesus is a great privilege !!!
Thanks Dr. Jordan . keep preaching Jesus !
Amen
1) The only ones that I recognize at this roundtable are Prager, Pageau, Peterson, Barron, and Vervaeke. I respect Barron because he's an actual cleric. Pageau is also tied to a church, but it seems like he's responding to the secularization of society by trying to reenchant Biblical symbolism. The Iliad and the Aeneid are full of symbols as well so he's not actually making a good case for being a Christian specifically instead of a Muslim, a Hindu, or a Buddhist. Everyone else in this group is into "cultural Christianity" for political reasons or materialist reasons like evolutionary psychology.
2) Besides jacking themselves off, it's very funny that at the end of the video Prager needs these Christians to reassure him that Christianity is not against his people and their influence.
Yes please!! Amen 🙏
Yes.😊
@@aesop1451 I couldn't finish the video. Comparing baptism to Genesis and then Mary. Mary was blessed to have birthed Jesus. Nothing more, nothing less. It is wrong for catholic's to idolize her.
How powerful & humbling as Jonathon explains sin as transgression, acts that are against God’s plan & not just what is right or wrong! What a WOW!!!!
How does god exist...?
@@mr.metamovies2419
Are you asking about the nature of God's existence, how He is sustained, or something else? Either way, God exists as an immaterial, eternal, and transcendent being, yet He is also immanent-present within His creation. The Bible affirms this: “For in Him we live and move and exist” (Acts 17:28), and “The heavens declare the glory of God” (Psalm 19:1).
God’s aseity-His self-existence-means He depends on nothing for His being. He revealed Himself as “I AM WHO I AM” (Exodus 3:14), signifying His eternal, self-sufficient nature. Unlike finite beings bound by time and decay, God is eternal and unchanging. His perfection encompasses holiness, love, wisdom, and power (Isaiah 6:3; Romans 11:33), making Him uniquely fitted as Creator and Sustainer of the universe.
As finite beings, comprehending a transcendent God who is not bound by time, space, or decay can feel overwhelming. Yet, God reveals Himself in glimpses: through creation, His Word, and ultimately in Jesus Christ, who is “the exact representation of His being” (Hebrews 1:3). His transcendence reminds us of His sovereignty, while His immanence assures us of His care and involvement in our lives. “The eternal God is your dwelling place” (Deuteronomy 33:27).
Though we cannot fully grasp His infinite nature, scripture encourages us to seek Him, as “His eternal power and divine nature” are evident in creation (Romans 1:20). Understanding Him is a journey of faith and reason, one that invites awe and trust in the One who is the source of all existence.
Hope this helps.
@@mr.metamovies2419I don't understand your boxed-in confusion. Since we're two strangers on the internet and likely have nothing useful in common it's difficult to answer a question as unspecified as yours, but much like the creator of a train set is not bound within the rules of the trainset's existence in order to exist himself, God doesn't have to exist with the rules of human existence in order to exist Himself.
As the creator of space and time He exists outside of space and time by His own being. As a train I don't understand how a human could possibly exist because I'm made of wood, but it seems you're assuming that since you're made of wood, muscles and neurons cannot possibly exist.
If a monotheistic God is real it's not any kind of hurtle of thought to understand that He's different since He made everything. If you're an S-type in meyers Briggs or have t learned how to think outside of your own perimeters it might be difficult for you to comprehend, and I might be explaining something that you're not asking about. I have no way of knowing for sure what your broad question meant. But hopefully I provided a leg-up for you to have a better footing while you think about things.
GLHF
Actually, sin, transgressions, and iniquity are all separate things. They are even mentioned separately together in several verses. Sin is separation from G-o-d, primarily through ignorance. Transgressions are trespasses, traversing into God's presence unauthorized and uninvited - hence, choosing to worship and serve Him in your own way. Iniquity is lawlessness; perverting the law. Those who are lawless, our Messiah will tell to depart from Him [workers of iniquity].
@@mr.metamovies2419
Are you asking about the nature of God's existence, how He is sustained, or something else? Either way, God exists as an immaterial, eternal, and transcendent being, yet He is also immanent-present within His creation. The Bible affirms this: “For in Him we live and move and exist” (Acts 17:28), and “The heavens declare the glory of God” (Psalm 19:1).
God’s aseity-His self-existence-means He depends on nothing for His being. He revealed Himself as “I AM WHO I AM” (Exodus 3:14), signifying His eternal, self-sufficient nature. Unlike finite beings bound by time and decay, God is eternal and unchanging. His perfection encompasses holiness, love, wisdom, and power (Isaiah 6:3; Romans 11:33), making Him uniquely fitted as Creator and Sustainer of the universe.
As finite beings, comprehending a transcendent God who is not bound by time, space, or decay can feel overwhelming. Yet, God reveals Himself in glimpses: through creation, His Word, and ultimately in Jesus Christ, who is “the exact representation of His being” (Hebrews 1:3). His transcendence reminds us of His sovereignty, while His immanence assures us of His care and involvement in our lives. “The eternal God is your dwelling place” (Deuteronomy 33:27).
Though we cannot fully grasp His infinite nature, scripture encourages us to seek Him, as “His eternal power and divine nature” are evident in creation (Romans 1:20). Understanding Him is a journey of faith and reason, one that invites awe and trust in the One who is the source of all existence.
When bishop Barron speaks it’s like being thrown a bucket of water on a hot day. Or getting to sit around the fire on a cold one. Or when you find the place for the last piece of the puzzle. Like a gentle breeze on a summers day. Such pleasant relief and gentle joy to my ears and soul from a father and gentleman of the Church.
This is really weird behavior. Posterity prove me wrong. How is this not exactly idolatry?
@@nicewhenearnedrudemostlyel489 to be exactly idolatry one would have to give worship to something (specifically, an inanimate object) with the intention of deifying that thing as god. Nothing the Bishop has said, nor the author of the comment above, appears to give worship or sacrifice to anything other than God. Or perhaps you just have an issue with honoring God's creation?? Many merely honor God, many actually worship Him. What you might mistake for worship or idolatry could be confused for veneration?
so well said!! captures exactly what i feel listening to him. amazing man
@@nicewhenearnedrudemostlyel489 Idolatry is worship of an idol. An idol classically is a physical object with a pagan god inhabiting it. An idol in neotheological terms is anything that is worshipped like God but is not God. To worship is to 1. to give something ultimate worth to, and 2. to sacrifice to. Complimenting someone on some facet of theirs that they excel in is not even remotely close to either of the things required for worship.
@@rosslander96 Why does the catholic church idolize Mary? Mary was a human who was blessed because she gave birth to Jesus Christ. Nothing more, nothing less. God's Word.
God I'm so happy this is finally being released on UA-cam! I have been anxiously waiting. Thank you all who participate. Thank you Jordan!
Johnathan pageau and Bishop Barron exegetical skills are phenomenal
*the Bishop’s
@@WisePhilosophia meant Bishop Barron thank u for the correction
Because they're Orthodox and Catholic. You'll see the prots have a different view of Baptism.
@@LB_die_Kaapie true but I do want to be charitable towards the prots who actually do affirm baptismal regeneration, it’s not everyone of them who denies it, but yes the one who do would have much different kind of reaction
Exegetical skills? This is eisegesis of the highest order along with a healthy dose of baseless allegory.
As a seminary student this is renewing my passion and desire to study
Yes, it's a brilliant discussion!
Comparing Geneisis to baptism and Mary as more than a blessed human who gave birth to Jesus Christ...Let the Holy Ghost and God's Word, the Bible guide you. Not youtube videos, unless you fact check everything with God's Word.
😂 Never let seminary hold you back from studying the Bible.
@@donnaw3765Amen. Test everything. Keep the meat, spit the bones.
Seminary of what faith? Christian, Catholic, ???
As a devout Catholic I perfectly understand the praise for Bishop Barron and Jonathan however, I think a lot of viewers are not understanding how important Dennis Prager is to this conversation. Firstly, because as Bishop Barron mentioned the Old Testament is absolutely critical to the New Testament and in my experience, majority of Christians and Catholics do not fully understand that. But secondly, Dennis Prager is the testing stone for the Christian beliefs, meaning Christians will always agree with each other in general in these conversations, but you need somebody who comes from the same love and understanding of God, but who has different theological views to push and probe back in order for the Christians to truly understand their beliefs and flesh out the truths!
Fantastic conversation
You should praise God, not a man
Prager declines to acknowledge Old Testament verses that clearly identify Christ as messiah, so why would it matter what he thinks?
@@docsavage8640 Probably just his pride and reluctance of change of belief. To be fair, it is very difficult for anyone to admit that they are wrong and change their mind. At the very least, Prager brings another viewpoint for discussion which is always important in the search for truth.
This is probably the highest level of communication I've seen in a long time. Thank God
Love these panels .. but I could listen to Jordan talk about Jesus forever. It is so deep and so layered. And profound and fresh and passionate
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood enemies, but against rulers and authorities of the unseen world, against mighty powers in this dark world and against evil spirits in the heavenly realms!
Ephesians 6:12
Well said. Throw down the Devil
13:09
Bishop Barron is so brilliant. That was truly amazing ✨
John Lennox would've been a good addition here
Definitely, I would love to hear from him in this context.
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100% John Lennox is the middle man between Dawkins and Peterson/Prageu.
Oh man, he would have been great as a part of this group.
He'll yeah!
I'm from Jordan, and my husband is American. Although, we live in America, we baptized both our children in Jordan ✝️
They'll appreciate it someday 🙏
That’s so very cool and I know that they will appreciate it
Those are the gifts that matter.😊
America is Israel, and the Jordan River is here 🤫
While it’s not biblically necessary, I hope they choose to follow Jesus for themselves. It does so much damage when it’s forced, and pushes people away.
@@siouxglamorous3117where did you get this idea exactly?
I purchased a daily wire subscription just to get this soon coming series! Pumped!
Sad you have to buy the devils subscription to get a biblical study, Shapiro is a straight up demonic war lord. Please do not forget this man championed the Iraq war, advocates the Gaza genocide, Syrian war, Afghanistan war, Libyan war, he’s never met a mass slaughter fest he didn’t love. He also said you should be killed if you didn’t get vaxxed and championed lockdowns. Yes a truly dark and demonic force.
Biblical conversation is great could never support daily wire, Shapiro has supported every mass murder campaign we call war, he supported lockdowns, he said you should be removed from society if you weren’t vaxxed. Let’s please not forget how evil this man is.
Am using my Christmas gift money to buy subscription for same reason - to see these discussions in their full
I hope that the whole series will be uploaded to UA-cam eventually, as was the case with the excellent Exodus series in 2023.
This man, love the premise, of at least for a segment of time, of this information being able to be available to all who would seek it, to elevate the dispersal of knowledge of such critical importance over monetary return.
It brings joy to my heart to listen to this. We need more discussion like this by minds like this.
My prayer. Please God give me the strength and wisdom to do your will.
Amen 🕊
thank you for allowing us these intense discussions.....finally getting to the intellectual and spiritual definitions of the scriptures
This was ministering to non believers on the panel, did not expect! Pleasantly surprised
Sadly, unbelievers are being taught wrong concerning this video. Mary connected to Genesis and being living water is against God's Word.
Jesus was baptized, I believe, for several reasons. But first and foremost was to simply show the Way that we need to follow. He is our perfect exemplar
EXACTLY! He is, in all things, our perfect example.
Hence why John was confused by it. Not only did Jesus have no sins to repent of, John’s Baptism was not even the same kind of Baptism as Jesus would eventually preach. But, like Joshua, Jesus leads His people through the waters of the Jordan by His example.
Buried in death by baptisn raised to new life in Christ.
Yes its a symbolic death and resurrection, they some how cant find that conclusion,
What a blessing to listen to these men.
Bishop Barren is brilliant
Wrong 😂... He doesn't know the real reason... See my post
Wrong
@@chommie5350okay, I guess commenter chommie is brilliant.
What a great bunch of guys to sit down and talk Jesus!
I cannot wait for this whole series to release! I’m beyond excited!
Yay Bishop Barron is involved. Can't wait❤
I suggest reading Ratzinger, more of his heavy writings, for a deeper dive into the material.
If Dennis and the Bishop alone have a chat without interruption how great that would be
Now covenant ✝️
So pumped for this series
Jordan Peterson is obviously searching. Let's keep him in prayer 🙏
He’s more Christian than the majority of Christian’s.
Look at his actions and lifestyle , he’s spreading the gospel more than most churches also !!
Don't be so sure you're closer to what we're all searching for than he is.
Why praying if your God has a Plan?
@@TessinentdeckenWhy take medicine if you're eventually going to die? Why eat food if you're eventually going to die?... What a stupid question!
@ I don’t agree with you.
I can't wait for this. December 1st can't get here fast enough. I finally subscribed to the dw specifically to watch this because the Exodus series was SO good
"Mary is the Virgin Waters, and the Spirit of God descends on her like in Gen 1:1" Never had this thought occur to me, but that is magnificent to think about.
Her name literally translates to bitter waters.
Tomb that Jesus go laid/buried is a Virgin Tomb as well
*got
I’m a born again 22 year old Christian from South Africa and I’m currently reading the Old Testament and I must say it is quite a bit to read but I’ve also enjoyed stories about the great men like Moses, Noah and King David. Also does anyone know if the covenant God makes with David at 2 Samuel 7 is about Jesus? God bless to all who read this message 🙏🏽
Yes, sir. It is absolutely about Jesus Christ. Mary, Jesus' mother was of the lineage of David, as was Joseph, his adopted father. As you know, God Almighty was the actual father of Jesus Christ, but he is counted as the lineage of David, and this promise is absolutely about him.
[2Sa 7:12-13, 16 KJV] 12 And when thy days be fulfilled, and thou shalt sleep with thy fathers, I will set up thy seed after thee, which shall proceed out of thy bowels, and I will establish his kingdom. 13 He shall build an house for my name, and I will stablish the throne of his kingdom for ever. ... 16 And thine house and thy kingdom shall be established for ever before thee: thy throne shall be established for ever.
God bless you nephew/brother! May you prosper abundantly in S. Africa! And don't forget to keep going back to the book of Ephesians and all the church epistles that are written to us believers.
@@gailhill8391 Great comment, 100% agree that Jesus is the fulfillment of the Davidic King promised on 2 Samuel 7. Just something to add, this chapter is also speaking to God's promise that Solomon would "build a house for my [God's] name" in reference to the Temple which would be completed by David's immediate heir King Solomon. This was Solomon's primary achievement during his reign. So yes, 2 Samuel 7 finds some immediate fulfillment in King Solomon but is ultimately fulfilled by our eternal King, the Lord Jesus who has "established the throne of his kingdom forever". God bless you both.
@@matta4371 A Study Bible by Charles Stanley 'Life's Principles Bible' would truly help all new and old believers who want to learn and grow using God's Word as guidance. Study the Old & New Testament together because they go hand in hand and having a King James study Bible helps us to connect the two. Pray for the Holy Spirit to guide you as you grow. Too many videos are not Biblical, such as this one. The Bible, God's Word, will teach you all you need to know. Baptism and Genesis are not intertwined as they mentioned and Mary is NOT any living water(s). She was the blessed mother of Jesus Christ and we should remember her as such.
When doing a search online for questions, always type KJV at the beginning.
KJV David, for example
Man who puts God first will never be last
Love these Gospel videos! Keep em coming and thank you for having these discussions! 😄👏
Bishop Barron is amazing, best regards to from 🇵🇱
This is the best series Ive seen!! God bless you all 🙏🏽✝️❤️
Jonathan Pageau and Bishop Barron🤝
This is so awesome. Dr. Scott Hahn would be an incredible addition to the group.
Please post more of these!
All Praise and All Thanksgiving Be Every Moment Thine!
Two witnesses needed to authenticate in Jewish culture. John is the forerunner and says " Behold the Lamb of God"(of Jesus) and God the Father's Voice ( they said It Thundered):"This is My Beloved Son in Whom I Am well pleased"
Plus the Holy Spirit hovering in the form of a dove. This is more than the authentication required in the Jewish culture.
Dennis Prager at 17:50 drops one of the best criticisms.
Ezekiel 47 is what Bishop Barron was referring to. Brilliant connection
❤ the dialect. Thanks for presenting this so openly with mature opposition. May we all learn more. I thank Jesus for this gathering.
Orthodox and Catholics presiding at the talk of Jesus. nice
As it should be..
One day we'll all be one in Christ! Amen!
As someone who's converting to Orthodoxy, I pray for a true union
@@kianoghuz1033 Literally me too
We need a Protestant. Lutheran or Presbyterian preferably.
Am loving this series
I wish this was going to come out fully on youtube. Please Jordan Peterson, could you make this happen.
I'll give you 45 dollars for a Daily Wire membership. Post your venmo or something.
45 dollars? Will I ever get to see this on UA-cam ?
“In every country and in every age, the priest has been hostile to liberty. he is always in alliance with the Despot abetting his abuses in return for protection to his own. it is easier to acquire wealth and power by this combination than by deserving them: and to effect this they have perverted the purest religion ever preached to man, into mystery & jargon unintelligible to all mankind & therefore the safer engine for their purposes.” - Thomas Jefferson
@@jacobgray676 no way youre just handing out 45 bucks
1st December I think they start posting episodes on UA-cam
18:49 "I'm glad that this is on record". The coldest line! 😂
What a time to be alive.
This is a really awakening insight from ALL of U… Bravo👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
This is incredibly stimulating! Such intellectual depth and respect are rare. I hope many more will be inspired by this. May the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob bless you and open your heart to His love and truth. ❤
Amen 🕊
The love of God is shown through kindness
GIVE US MORE!
great. God bless you all.
I just love these conversations. def don't always understand what they are talking about but I like it that way
Thank you one and all
4:26 the word became flesh and tabernacles among us WOAAAAA
Blown away 🤯🤯
😂😂
This is great!! More of this, please.
They should get Dr. Brant Pitre on there next time
YES!!
Yes because he knows Jewish rites... These guys are word salad ramblers 😂... They dunno the real reason so they rambling
The real reason is that Jesus was being anointed as a high priest who would take over from John... John was also a priest.
Welcome back gentlemen, so excited for this series x
These videos make me realize just how much details I assumed and never gave much thought to them
We must fact check every video we watch For one example and there are many: This one claims Mary is living waters. This is against God's Word.
God is doing something powerful through these wise and eloquent men. I truly enjoyed this.
The addition of NT Wright on the panel would have been extremely beautiful.
The Reverse Panel would be: Richard Dawkins, Sam Harris, Neil deGrasse Tyson, Steven Pinker, Stephen Fry, Bill Maher, Ricky Gervais, Neil Gaiman, and Alex O' Connor.
As someone attending an evangelical university, immersed in the culture of educated evangelicals, our respected voices are those, present and past, such as NT Wright, AW Toizer, CS Lewis, Tim Keller, Francis Chan, John Pieper & John Mark Comer. I would love to see voices like these included in Peterson’s round tables, not because their insights are so needed as an addition, but also as a marker of safety to educated evangelicals skeptical of Peterson and Pegeau’s psychological and symbolic interpretations that “these insights are for you, too!” Unfortunately too many in my context are too dismissive or too prideful to consider scripture in Peterson’s key. They are missing out on so much theological depth and richness. All truth is God’s truth, I say you! Onwards and upwards.
@@aesop1451lol, what kind of panel would that be? low tier new atheist celebrities for edgy teenagers?
@@davidmusserUA-cam. Empty evangelical here. In many ways you’re right. Evangelicals play the role of gatekeeper for “biblical” truth. The irony is that Protestantism and Modernism are two sides of the same coin; every “hermeneutical exegesis” has followed every cultural trend, even if “we” didn’t create that trend. On that note, Peterson is introducing existential concerns in our contexts and tries to raise it to the empirical. And that’s the problem he is continually facing, since it is the other way around and he needs to see the empirical is not the highest concern. Where Evangelicals can learn is to have a deeper understanding of the experiential/existential concern without crying “relativism/ subjectivity / not biblical “! Ironic because we are so proud of our seeker communicability, but are rather toothless on the big social issues. Peterson is a good example of sincerity and courage in the face of a social order that seems more beast like everyday. But he needs to drop the hermetic alchemist, depth psychology model and understand the archetypal is in fact ontological. In other words, GOD is real and not simply the spirit of tradition. Like Hegel, he collapses God into our personal experience in a manner that distorts how God revealed himself. Because God is also a subject of action.
@@Exiled35 Protestants, for one, protested against infant baptism that Mary shouldn't be idolized which is true according to God's Word. What say ye?
These guys are have such important discussions!!
To fulfill all righteousness.
Fulfill scripture and set an example for us. ❤
Jordan Peterson crushing it with Daily Wire content
Fantastic discussion!
Welp Daily Wire. You finally got me. I have to subscribe now!
EXCELLENT marketing tactic to release this incredible appetizer on a Black Friday… just renewed my subscription to DW+ , can’t wait to enjoy the full course on Sunday
Im tempted myself
Showing us the way to God through Christ, showing us how to become sons of God. Buried in baptism, raised to a new life. Christ said I’m the way, truth, life. Believe, baptism, communion.
I’m signing up to dailywire just to watch this series 💕🙏🏻 God bless you guys for making this
Lord please give me strength and good health Father. I suffer from lupus, and heart disease. I have two beautiful boys both are special needs. I’m overwhelmed because they require so much from me. Every month is a struggle to not end up on the streets. Lord help me provide for my children. I KNOW you will.💕
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Amen🙏
Praying for you ❤ keep the faith on. Our God is a good and merciful God ❤ may He bless you and your kids abundantly in all areas of life.
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Man I'm so hyped for this series
From an Orthodox Christian Funeral:
'When Israel passed over the floor of the sea as if dry land, and beheld their pursuer Pharaoh drowning in the sea, with a loud voice they cried unto God, "Let us sing a song of victory!"'
Great!! God bless
In the Moses-communicated teachings, the ritual of being washed by water was required for anyone being ordained to the priesthood. The anointing of oil was required for becoming the king. Jesus did both rituals and attained to both positions. It was part of fulfilling the law.
Maybe Prager comes through in these discussions. The gap created when Christianity was made into a non- Jewish religion, is still a very wide one.
@@bensonthepuppy How could Christianity stay as a Jewish religion? It is impossible because one believes in Jesus Christ the Messiah and one doesn't
Could you please provide a Bible verse for the baptism requirement?
This!
Moses was instructed by God to wash Aaron before he could enter the tabernacle and become the first High Priest… John baptizing Jesus was the same thing, but for the last High Priest!
Is there a longer part of this? I'm fascinated by this discussion.
Hello Mr Peterson!!!
My name is Daniel, and I listen to your podcast for some time and also pray for you and your family. I have great respect for you and your guests, and I rejoice when people take the bible seriously.
I have a favor to asked, can you p
lease listen to this teaching of pastor Tim Keller:
"You must be born again. "
Thank you for everything you do !!!
Good conversation. Thank you.
Always pray and ask for wisdom and understanding from the Lord. That way we are not confused. The Holy Spirit will guide us.
This is the best Bible study I've ever heard. Very interesting. Thanks.
Please fact check using God's Word. There are many 'opinions' which are not Biblical.
It's a public declaration of our choice to follow Him. Our old person is 'buried' with Him, and 'raised' to newness of life with Him.
💡 "This video is pure inspiration! Love every second of it. 👏⏳ Watch before it’s too late!"
This verse is the answer to the question “why Jesus did things he didn’t need to do?”
Hebrews 5:8
Even though Jesus was God’s Son, he learned obedience from the things he suffered.
Bishop Barron is amazing
Another take on this: Jesus was baptized as a ceremonial justification of his sacrifice. John was in the priestly tradition of Aaron (his mother and father where in that line). One of the responsibilities of the priest in the old temple was to justify the sacrifice is free from blemish. after his Baptism, the Almighty Father declared, he is well pleased.
Wow. Thanks for that insight!
Yes!
btw, i cannot take credit for this- i first heard Sam Shamoun gave this explanation - it does seem there might be merit to this, when you look at it from the perspective of OT temple sacrifice.
These things are precious and should be given for free to anyone who so seeks. 😥😥
John the Baptist baptized Jesus to fulfill all righteousness. This means that Jesus was providing the framework for all people to be like Him.
Two sentences.
What do you mean "to be like him"? Isn't Jesus God Almighty? How can you be like that?
@@MohamedShouJesus tells are us we are all gods basically in the Bible. He says we will judge angels etc. Also, check out Psalms 82, and think on that one for a while! It is very interesting! =)
I believe Jesus taught something similar to the law of One people in spiritual circles are talking about today. It's basically the same thing, if not the very teachings Jesus was teaching! It's all very incredible and eye opening.
Well He did made us in His image.
@@MohamedShouwhen Jesus die and then resurrected from the dead.
He make us similar to him, by taking our place so we can take his place.
He take our suffering so we can live.
But the life we get, it’s his life.
Baptism, I believe its death and resurrection from dead.
@@MohamedShouin his ways(actions) not his nature(divine nature)
Thank you gentlemen x
There are good arguments that Jesus himself WAS the God of the Old Testament.
1 Corinthians 3:19-21
19 For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. For it is written, “He catches the wise in their own craftiness”; 20 and again, “The Lord knows the thoughts of the wise, that they are futile.” 21 Therefore let no one boast in men. For all things are yours:
Amen
@@buildtomuch7299 are you saying these men are foolish in their words and discussions of the gospels?
I don’t think any of these men are elevating themselves or the panel as a whole to the level of the Lord. I don’t see anyone in the comments exalting them in that manner either.
Thank you appreciate your hard work. ☀️✝️🌙
Ephesians 2:4 KJV "But GOD, who is rich in mercy, for HIS great love wherewith HE loved us, 5 even when we were dead in sins, has quickened us (made us alive) together with CHRIST, by grace you are saved 7 that in the ages to come HE might show the exceeding riches of HIS grace in HIS kindness toward us through CHRIST JESUS. 8 For by grace are you saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of GOD: 9 not of works, lest any man should boast."
Amen🙏🏽🤍🕊️
Yes i experience His saving grace everyday when i repent daily for my daily sins. Not perfect so thank God for His mercy and grace and patience as I try my best to follow Jesus’ footsteps. The Lord loves effort. Thats what that scripture means, not that you don’t have to do nothing like judgement day isn’t a thing.
the NERDS Candy two pack suit gets me every time.
It is called a Mikva, one must walk into any river…
And give its life to Yahuah in Yahusha’s 🩸 🙏 HalleluYah, and repent as your sins wash down the river.
Shalom, from the lamb of… I AM.
Orthodox Christian here. I love Jonathan, but he failed to mention 2 absolutely critical Orthodox teachings on why Jesus was baptized, and the meaning of baptism. Firstly, it was the fulfillment of the OT covenant found in circumcision, and represents the new circumcision - the circumcision of the heart, of repentance. Additionally, it represents the new way someone enters into the Church. For Jews, this was circumcision - now, for the Jew and Gentile alike it is baptism. Secondly, Jesus was baptized to impart his divinity, energetically, into the water itself - sanctifying it, and giving the ordinary (water) the power to be a sacrament that saves. In the same way he was incarnated, divinizing our human nature, he did the same with the water. If he didn’t, then the water would have no power at all in a sacramental sense. This also plays into why we represent Jesus with icons - because he was always interacting with the physical, the material, and sanctifying it. It’s why icons can be windows to heaven, it’s why being baptized saves, it’s why our human nature is restored to its proper image. Although I agree with all of his points and parallels from the OT - this is what needs to be talked about first, and this is what you’ll find in a cathecetical lesson on baptism, and specifically Jesus being baptized in the Church.
Blood(Jesus)and Water(baptism) - Bishop Barron❤
- God's Word. He also claims baptism is tied to Genesis and Mary is 'living waters'. She was blessed for being chosen to be the mother of Jesus. Nothing more, nothing less. Infant baptism is also not Biblical.
@ To your own Opinion, nothing more nothing less. Bible is a catholic book. You will never understand our book. You’re welcome