He does not attack atheists or even atheism but rather gives a solid basis for his faith as a scientist. I appreciate the respectful but unapologetic approach.
So, God made himself from nothing, then made something, and everything originated from nothing. If you believe God as the most powerful and intelligent being came from nothing, then you believe in evolution.
He provides no basis and no evidence. He asserts that A, he sees a question that no one can answer (what came before the big bang) and then B, he inserts God as the answer. That's not evidence but like most people of faith, he states that Atheists believe "something came from nothing" is an obtuse mischaracterization that apologists foolishly use as some kind of "proof".
I’ve watched this video a few times, and while John Lennox makes some interesting points, I don’t think the title matches what’s in the video. He doesn’t actually "destroy" atheism or prove that God exists. Instead, Lennox talks about why he believes in God and argues that faith can go hand-in-hand with science. The title seems like it’s just there to grab attention. If you’re expecting solid proof against atheism, you might not find it here. But the video is still worth watching if you want to hear a thoughtful take on how science and belief in God can work together.
God destoys Atheist, anyone with common sense can see that everything was created because something has never come from nothing. Give me evidence that you have seen something in your lifetime that came from nothing. Want evidence of creation look at anything you can see and it had to be made because it had a beginning.
@@robertrlkatz6890 I see where you’re coming from, but sometimes “common sense” can miss the bigger picture. The idea that “something has never come from nothing” is a longstanding philosophical debate, but it’s important to remember that just because we don’t fully understand the origins of the universe, that doesn’t automatically prove the existence of a divine creator. This is an example of an argument from ignorance-concluding that God must exist simply because we lack a complete explanation for how the universe began. Also, when you say “God destroys atheism,” it’s worth asking-how exactly is that happening? As an atheist, I’m still here in the discussion, so it seems like the “destruction” hasn’t exactly taken place. My main point was just that the video’s title doesn’t match what John Lennox actually talks about. I think it’s valuable for all of us to stay open to different perspectives and not just rely on what seems obvious at first glance.
The proof is rational deduction not empirical evidence. Life the MBR that he mentioned. That demands an explanation. As Aquinas and Al Ghazali pointed out... Everything that begins has a beginner.
If one of Hamas agents turn cloaks and advocate for peace. While all the others of the cult planterrorist attacks. And you have a debate. Will you let the turn cloak disarm you for the sake of a futile attempt to make peace? I know it is a extreme analogy but religion isn't what the world need in large. And debates are for poeple who actually want to know. That is the main thing. Perhaps there should be better understanding and climate between belivers and unbelievers. But that is not the most important thing. And it is harder to achive than that-
This is an eloquent and forceful defence of one man’s belief in a deity. It proves nothing, other than he can cite some great minds who share his belief. That’s fine, but if anyone thinks this is proof of anything, then they’re indulging in wishful thinking.
Some facts about religions… There are round 4900 official religions in the world. They worship round 6000 gods. All claim…many with scripture…that the god they worship is the only right one. PROOF you religion and hod is the right one. And proof means more then just one book and hearsay stories. No proof the others are wrong. Till then… You believe in one god less then an atheïst. You don’t believe in 4899 gods We not in 4900 Good luck
@@bartholomewlyons well I guess everyone has his own idea ... some have no idea at all When asked if he believed in God, Carl Jung answered; "I do not believe, I know" I would rather agree with Jung, though I would not say "I know" because it is rather arrogant, and it is not exactly a "knowledge". I would rather say "I witness His presence"
I'm not an atheist by any means. Not even an agnostic. but in my opinion, this video fails to meet the threshold of “destroying atheism.“ I was very disappointed in listening to it.
As a Catholic, I can agree. It did not speak to reason and the heart fully, and I do not think the resurrection can be proved the way God’s existence can. However, that does not mean faith and science contradict, nor that pure philosophy alone is not enough to deduce the existence of an all powerful Cause of the universe (which has no better name than God).
You are talking about the being that designed the food chain in which animals have to brutally kill each other to survive? Have you ever seen a falcon eating a prey when it's still alive? Merciful right? Or are you talking about the being that designed bio-robots (yes, us) and then blamed the robots for all the software bugs he himself put in? The being that watches us torturing, killing and raping each other in the most sadistic and horrendous ways and does nothing? And if you are referring to that being, where do gracious, merciful, kind, faithful, loving & just come in exactly?
@@krookedarrow9869sure he gives us a tour of how he views his chosen ideology but he doesn’t defend it, go into any depth, deal with any contrary views. It’s just a list of claims. Claims which need evidence. It’s not at all compelling or persuasive.
How radical yet authentic to hear an Oxford mathematician stand up for what I myself have come to accept as the truth, that Christ is not only Saviour, but also judge, yet presented without threat, without guile--- I can only add my Amen!
@@Pikeandslippers You believe in the big bang and as of yet we have had no demonstrations...try being consistent. You might find that the evidence for God is all around you.
@@dulls8475who said I believe in the big bang? It's one of a few scientific theories with reems more evidence than saying ' I don't understand this, therefore God'. Looking around me? Sure the natural environment is evidence for natural processes not a divine creator. You don't appear to understand evidence or sound epistemology. Give me just one testable piece of evidence for a creator of the universe.
Powerful message with lots of wisdom from above of this man. Yes, him and us the simple people find meaning, purpose, forgiveness, life and hope in God through the resurrected Jesus. May many more find the same by trusting Him! Blessings from Albania!
I am a Christian man. Orthodox and protestant in theology. And I see many logical and rational holes in Lennox's argument. Many fallacies committed. Many assumptions that are clearly in error. He uses the term "egalitarian" to refer to Christian beliefs. Does he realize that there are many Christians that believe (based upon the Bible) that women should not preach (and some believe women shouldn't be able to vote)? Hardly, "egalitarian". He also speaks of man being "rational". We do not have to go down through history very far to discover that man is hardly rational. As Bertrand Russell said well: "Man is a rational animal. So at least we have been told. Throughout a long life I have searched diligently for evidence in favor of this statement. So far, I have not had the good fortune to come across it.". This is just the beginning Lennox's problems.
The problem is....belief in something is not nor ever has been nor ever will be taken as proof or evidence. One may believe what one chooses but believing is NOT proof !
All those who must have tangible proof but wont accept anything even if its offered. It just means that person wont believe no matter what. Im always curious as to why those people hang out in these types of videos.
Romans 9 provides one answer, but most are not prepared to face that truth. If your view is restricted to just one subspace, there is no way to see the whole space no matter how hard you try.
I agree! At last count, I 'believe', there are approximately 4,200 worldwide religions to choose, or not to choose, from...and each with, or without, its own higher authority(ies). A thought to ponder: put 100 scientists to work on a problem, and yes they may all start out with different hypotheses and discover, interpret, and reinterpret facts in different ways along the way, but they eventually come to a consensus on an answer, and the answer will be one that we can effectively use - because of the evidence that they can test and verify themselves. Put 100 theologians to work on a question by using faith, and although they may all start out from the same religious perspective, you will end up with at least 100 denominations, factions (a blend of fact and fiction), and even new religions (all with their own denominations and factions), and there will be no objective, reliable way to decide between them. That, more or less, leaves us, with or without, two more choices; Science's evidence without certainty, and/or religion's certainty without evidence! Peace...
@@dulls8475 All those are much more probable than your fictional charedter god. Here is a short list of major theories about the origin of the universe: 1. *Big Bang Theory* : The universe began as a singularity and has been expanding ever since. 2. *Steady State Theory* : The universe is eternal and unchanging, with continuous creation of matter. 3. *Oscillating Universe Theory* : The universe undergoes infinite cycles of expansion and contraction. 4. *Inflation Theory* : A rapid expansion occurred immediately after the Big Bang, smoothing and flattening the universe. 5. *Multiverse Theory* : Our universe is one of many universes that exist simultaneously.
@@RRR-AUM " ill take experiences " Delusional ones???? "then i had NDE and died after surgery june 4 1994" LMAO. What a bunch of bullcrap. Do Muslims see jesus in their NDEs? LMAO
Wise words indeed Science and faith have always been linked. But they don't want you to make that connection today. Today they want you to believe science and faith are separate. Can't believe in one without the other. For nothing has ever been created from nothing
Yeah, science has acquired these bad habits of insisting on self-consistency, repeatability, falsifiability and logical directness (among others). If God appeared to a scientist, he or she would probably want him to come back the next day for a urine sample and a DNA swab.
@@edkudray2060 Science and faith are not linked. Science is the systematic study of the structure and behavior of the physical and natural world through observation, experimentation, and the testing of theories against the evidence obtained. Faith requires no study or testing of evidence. As for the nothing argument; there is nothing about atheism that expresses any view point on that issue. And the big bang does not presume that something came from nothing; only that our known universe came from a singularity. It does not presume to know what may or may not have existed prior to that moment. Lastly, you appear to want to use the grade school definition of 'theory,' as opposed to how that term is used in science.
Exactly! He create this world in his infinite wisdom and for his own glory. To create is proper to a Diety. Thus God proves himself to be the true God and distinguishes himself from idols.
I'm not an atheist. However good presentation of this motivational talk to Christian believers may be, it does not destroy atheism (at any point if the said 15 minutes)
he clearly logically showed the paradox of atheism saying science pursuit the truth and by coincidence discovering physical and mathematical laws describing perfectly the universe starting from a postition humans are motivated only by survivor instincts then evolution based on surviving cannot produce science pursuing the truth because for each person surviving principles are different. It's a bit subtle and you need a logically trained mind to understand it. Dawkins red in his face during the whole speech got it perfectly and knew he couldn't logically argue that.
@@margotmargot4426 Unfortunately, this is a terrible argument and there is an easy way to logically argue against it. Evolution favors traits that allow species to reproduce and pass down their genes. For us, these traits include pattern recognition, abstract thinking, memory, etc. Our excellent memory and pattern recognition allows us to avoid circumstances of danger that we might have already experienced. Abstract thinking allows us to come up with responses to fictitious scenarios, and those prepare us for real life dangers. Then, these traits bloom over the course of millions of years, culminating with Homo sapiens. You see? It's perfectly reasonable for us to have evolved to rationally analyze the world. It's a trait that is favorable for natural selection. Then, science and pursuing the truth follow naturally from our language, communication, observations, and analysis.
Why are people so afraid to say, 'I don't know what caused this.' May it be life, suffering, happiness, fairness, unhappiness. In the chain of possible answers to the question why they are what they are, there is always a last why-question, to which the answer is 'We don't know'. Religion tries to close that line with the belief in God as an ultimate answer. Christians do not know that there is a God; they believe it. Atheists do not know that there is nothing after death; they believe it. I embrace the thought that the fact that you can ask a question does not mean there is an answer.
@@HerbertRatidzaiMaambira Would you introduce me to your god. That would make me believe especially if your god then made all amputees regrow their limbs.
Only because it's easier to attribute anything they don't understand to being the work of a supernatural entity. They look in awe at the Universe and gasp, "God must have made all of this." Yet they cannot conceive that the Biblical God was created by Man to keep other men in check; that God needed to be a fiece God so the preist could shout, "Behave or God will come for you!" and when there was thunder and lighning, he could shout, "God is angry with you!" The god they worship so fervently is actually the Nature they so mindlessly destroy.
There is ZERO proof against His existence. BUT thousands of proof He DOES. Your mere existence and everything in life hinges on God. For the unbelieving there will be a time you will KNOW what it really is to be without God. For now He is offering grace. Today IS the day to give Him the glory DUE His Name ❤❤❤
@@sandrajarboe7542 you dont belive in, lets say 2000 known Gods. some dont belive in 2000 PLUS ONE God. you have the right one? say that to the rest of modern Gods... also biggest sin is not beliveing? but for other sins you just ask forgivness, and all is ok? what God with ego problems cares about disbeliveif? he is omnipotent, and cares if i belive in him. funny.
And that is through science and knowledge gained. Evolution through natural selection. ('Knowledge' doesn't have faith anywhere near it; not even at far distance. How could it? Faith is the dark. The dark is the absence of light. The dark is not a thing of existence.
@@billiswillis8293 The true meaning of "faith" is "belief", so stop using it in the name of religion. One has to believe in something, no matter what that something might be. And this has nothing to do with religion.
If people find a carved stone placed on top of another, they say it's a remnant of a great civilization, but no one says nature made it. However, when it comes to a highly complex single cell, they say nature made it.
I love Prof Lennox. God bless him more and more. He is very humble, therefore he can speak to his colleagues at famous university in UK. Thank you for sharing.
100% proof God does not exist. There is 97% Salt Water and only 3% Fresh Water on earth. If there really was a God he would have created a lot more fresh water. Common sense.
The reason you didn't hear him is because you are reprobate concerning the truth. You fight God at every corner and you refuse to listen to him. For this cause God has given you over to a reprobate mind. I'm sorry for you friend. There's no coming back from this.
@@LiftUpYourEyes David, I challenge you to read the Bible, starting with the New Testament. After reading the entire Bible, I believe you will change your belief. I challenge you to start with a prayer asking Gid to reveal Himself to you, He will. You must be serious not flippant. God will open your eyes to whom He really is, "The Great I Am." Praying you do so.
@@LiftUpYourEyes So....God is talking to you? How do you know it's him, and not just voices in your head, like all the other people in the mental hospital?
@@dulls8475 instead of seeking the lord, why doesn't the lord just show himself up and tell us he is god? That shouldn't be a big deal for a god. That's the only way atheism will vanish once and for all. But since your god (like every other god of every religion) always rely on people to speak for him, he is just as fictional as Harry Potter, therefore atheism remains.
@@dulls8475 There are ridiculously about 5000 man made religions each one of them claims it's god is the one true, what makes you think your god stands out from the others?
A bad title, but an excellent talk. Dr. Leenox provided arguments against atheism but in a respectful way. He is pointing to the signs of intelligent design, he is hinting at the profound literary nature of scripture, not it's profound literalism. He is hinting at the creation account not being a literal account of *how* the universe was created, but the literary *home* story of why the creator made it and our relationship to him. He is asking great questions and encouraging us the listener student to be curious and go in search of answers. In doing so you will likely discover that God was pursuing and discovering you, not you who was searching out God. Fabulous and will listen again.
@@Nutterbutter123 it's a hard thing for most people to wrap their heads around when they think what was there before creation? Obviously God! It still drives me a bit crazy trying to even think about it. I try and approach it with child like faith. Perhaps one day God will reveal it to all His people.
@@The_Blessed_Cowboy well, take into account some people who don’t believe in God justify their views with what they perceive as logical reasoning- like they’ve never experienced personal evidence or they can’t wrap their head around what the Bible speaks of or they only go by what’s in front of their eyes. Then there’s those with personal grievance or place their own morals against the very Author such as anger towards a church or church goers, or they cant understand why God allows evil and therefore summarize because He can’t exist, or that science is the only explanation and what it can’t explain now it will one day with enough data, or that they’ve experience horrible things and have anger towards Him. People have their reasons and don’t put the effort in beginning a relationship with Him. And if they do believe in a creator, they have an idea of what a creator is to them and sometimes they don’t like a God that would pour His wrath on His Son, not understanding the necessity of it. Or sometimes it’s as simple as they can’t decide which church is “right”, so they don’t go at all and don’t attempt anything It’s a hard thing for some to grasp, because it would mean a very deep and profound change in lifestyle, drastically for most. Submission requires a lot for the stubborn and stiff-necked. We got to have empathy for them, and when we come across a non believer in love, it’s important to talk to them humbly and question in sincerity why they justify either a disinterest or an anger towards Him. And then work in that direction.
There is no destroying. There is only one truth and he showed it. It is a feeling an understanding you only can get from the holy spirit. I hope you get this understanding one day.
Enjoy watching your videos, very helpful, I was reading Larry Burkett's book on "Giving and Tithing" And it drew me closer to God and helped my spirituality. 2020 was a year I literally lived it. I cashed in my life savings and gave it all away. My total giving amounted to 40,000 dollars. Everyone thought I was delusional. Today, I receive 85,000 dollars every two months. I have a property in Calabasas, CA, and travel a lot. God has promoted me more than once and opened doors for me to live beyond my dreams. God kept to his promises to and for me
It is the digital market. That's been the secret to this wealth transfer. A lot of folks in the US and abroad are getting so much from it, God has been good to my household Thank you Jesus
So glad to hear your unchallengeable argument about the existence of God. We believe that Jesus is not the son of God but a messenger of God. He came to preach the oneness of God. God is ever living , & a sustainer of all beings.
So unfortunate to say, but if he was not God why would he say he is one with God. What does been one mean to you? Also you and I will accept that he(jesus) never lied. Now if jesus never lied why would he say what he is not. There is intimate and ultimate truth in his personality as God and that's the Truth. Many don't understand because their heart are harden towards the reality. Sorry dear but Jesus is God in Human form.
I do not believe his goal was to destroy anything, but rather give hope to those who believe in nothing. God and Jesus is my hope and I lack the enormous amount of faith it woujd take for me to be an atheist. May God bless this gentleman.
Funny how the Christian God is an all powerful, uncreated Being, Being itself- the source of all existence, infinitely Good, True, and Beautiful… kind of different than a human no?
"We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts". 2 Peter 1:19
@@berniethebolt3007 All I am trying to do is spread the truth of God's word, because it is the only REAL truth available. Evolution is enormously insulting to human intelligence. I am guessing that you are an evolutionist. What is happening in this world today, and it is going to get much worse, the Bible prophesied. We are on the verge of eternity and Jesus is coming back for His people, those who have accepted His death on their behalf. Those who reject Christ will not survive, if the sacrifice of Jesus on the cross does not move people, nothing will. I wish you well.
@@bobbygene8274So if every body believed in unicorns it means they exist? Difference in believing and knowing. You believe he is real, I know he is not and can prove it. In fact it gets proven every day.
God bless you great scientist and man of God. Atheism is a consequence of misunderstanding of the God. It's sad that modern day atheism is becoming a radical religion itself worshipping science as a god.
This man is an angel. If one single soul is saved, and becomes a believer; then it is more worthy than all the science in the world. Also, can you explain love? You can’t see it, you can’t touch it, you can’t smell it; but you can only feel it and so does God. Science can’t explain God, but in despite of “feeling Him and experiencing Him” in thousands of ways, scientists deny Him and His existence. Well, how is it does He exist? Let’s say a scientist says I’m so sick, and lonely,where is God? Easy, God responds: “The nurse that care for you, the doctor that was assigned to you, the warm chicken soup that you eat today. That was me taking care of you”. Glory to God for all eternity. Amen!
Yes I can explain love. And no you can't explain invisible wizard in the sky that loves people when 10.000 children die of hunger every day and Hitler killed 6 million of gods disciples and then he died whenever he wanted by commiting suicide. God is a fairytale.
Science can explain whatever deity. Never heard of psychology, sociology, antropology ...? We can measure and detect neural activities and production of chemicals in the body that are related to what we call "love", just as we can with other elusive 'conditions' like sorrow, etcetera.
For us simpler minded folks I look at something like love. Evolution without God needs attraction to maintain the species but what purpose does love have in such a system? I believe our need to connect with one another is because we all come from the same Divine Family where we were all joined and we long to be reconnected to our brothers and sisters.
I'll posit an answer: Love binds mating pairs of humans to each other and to their offspring. Love binds those families to the tribe. Love binds those tribes to human society. And human society is an extremely potent force for survival.
@@k7jeb I agree. So is that an argument for or against the existence of God? If it’s an argument against then I would counter with why does love have to exist at that level when simple attraction allows the species to continue along with packs, flocks or whatever that solve for the community? IMO love goes way beyond the “need” for simple existence that nature affords the rest of the animal world.
@@cjen1959 My point is that survival, either of the individual or of the species, is the final arbiter of existence. If "love", "faith in God" or brute physical strength enhances survival, then those attributes will propagate into the future with the surviving individuals. For humans, the big survival attribute is a complex, highly flexible social organization that effectively counters existential threats. Whatever the mental or physical constructs used for that social organization are, they become a part of the individuals who survive and reproduce.
What "Devine Family"? FACT: We all came from our ancestors -- from prehistoric humans who came from ape-men who came from apes, etc. etc. And that's not a BELIEF...nor is it "DEVINE." Animals also long for their own kind.
@@davep3014 Nobody knows exactly how everything came into being. That's the point. I would rather not pretend to know things that humanity simply doesn't yet know.
So Richard Lennox believes in God. Well, he is a Christian, seems like he should. NOTHING of what he said proves anything one way or the other beyond is own belief.
These posts show how little knowledge humanity has, many cannot accept that their beliefs are being challenged as the world collapses without a saviour to come to the rescue... as long as man uses his brain extinction by his own hand is inevitable. Perhaps if division is removed then perhaps then perhaps.... I'm going to listen to The Dark Side of the Moon 🙏
Then you did not understand what he said. Perhaps you are expecting a logical or rational proof, and not just a multitude of reasons that belief is more rational than believing that there is no God in existence. For example, why is the universe as we now know it by scientific methods and tools, so large and yet EXPANDING! Why not just a simple and static universe wherein the big bang happened but petered out such that the universe will eventually shrink such that it will collapse back into itself? Growth is the order of the day and both science and religion say that growth is and has been and thus will continue in the future? Atheism has zero explanation for that truth. Atheism has no explanation for life itself. Despite the truths found in evolution, it says exactly zero about what created life nor anything about WHY life was created. It only says that life DIVERSIFIED or grew as it were. As this man so eloquently put it, the SURVIVAL of life was the main point or concern embodied in the answers posited by evolution. Nothing about WHY?? To QUOTE CAPTAIN Kirk in a battle of logic with the M-5 unit, "Why must you(M-5) survive??" The murder M-5 had committed was completely against its (M-5) stated purpose, ie to protect and serve mankind from the dangers of space exploration and travel. Atheism provides NO PURPOSE to the question of WHY must there be life? If one were CHOOSING between A and B, and A does something that B does not, nor ever can, does that not favor choosing A over B? Remember, you are asserting that the man made NO ARGUMENT to choose A over B. But I have just explained in only ONE AREA that A is preferable to B. That is called an argument for the purpose of persuasion. Choose A not B, are the ONLY requirements for qualifying as a persuasive argument or persuasive reason. If you expect anything more than that form, you are looking for something else, my friend.
Never let the latest scientific unknown be a barrier to filling it with a God. We have been pushing the ‘God Gap’ back and back with reason and science for hundreds of years and we will continue to do so.
Worse still, some parts are like: "science already has an explanation, but no, lets stick god there" (e.g. how we evolved morality, how human brains evolved, etc.).
Amen, Amen and Amen!! There is such a problem in this world : the ungodliness and therefore lawlessness. Thank you you Pastor Daniel. God bless you abundantly.
Even when I was a borderline atheist , I still believed that God could exist and who’s origin could be explained so easily to even a hardcore atheist scientist; x amounts of time ago, virtually infinite to us, a super advanced civilization could have invented some form of super computer or AI that overtime became infinitely powerful , so powerful it was able to create universes , totally self aware, create heaven and earth, etc. so powerful we couldn’t even begin to comprehend its power . See even a hardcore atheist should be able to believe that’s a possibility
As a hard core scientist, I absolutely agree that this could be true. I’m pretty sure that conflicts with most believer’s concept of a supernatural god. I don’t think they have more advanced science in mind.
@@paulb2760 the thing is, the entity could be so powerful that it could indeed have become ‘supernatural’. At what point does something become so inconceivably powerful that it bridges the gap that we think of as science vs supernatural
@@paulb2760 my other personal theory , although I’m sure someone much smarter than me has said it before, but I don’t think I’ve ever read about it anywhere or heard about it but maybe…. Anyway it’s that if the universe is truly infinite, to my mind, that would mean EVERYTHING is real, including God, heaven , hell etc because in a truly infinite universe/multiverse everything has infinite chances of becoming real which means with infinite amount of time it would inevitably become real an infinite amount of times. If this makes sense…. I’m having trouble articulating my point
So what you saying is that god is an "antient and advanced" civilization. Who created an AI? Well, so is there god for that cavitation? Or it just came to be? An effect without cause. So no matter how far you will try to remove the "creation" event, it still does not explain why "existence" develops from simple to complicated. And if complicated somehow existed before the simple... well, it loses the whole sense isn't it?
This is so wonderful. He explained it so very very well. He explained it so well that I wish I could do it that way, but I haven't the intelligence. Thank you professor. Richard Dawkins must have been slightly impressed in his cold little atheist heart.
Contrast with Islam - which teaches permanent _jihad_ against ALL Unbelievers - until the WHOLE world has been conquered, at which point 'peace' will reign - under the 'Religion of Peace' (an expression whose significance silly people simply fail to understand!).
Christ is a title, not a surname. Yeshua was claimed to be the Christ by his followers. None of his apostles had surnames, Peter, Luke, Mathew, Mark, Thomas, etc.
@@icesculpting4you "Delusional" So you BELIEVE (or hope)! But you don't actually KNOW, do you - as a psychiatrist would, when faced with a _genuinely_ delusional subject? And to be frank, your single-word response hardly contributes to what _should_ be a rather interesting debate, does it? So - why did you even bother?
_"But people are now so desperate to show that the universe created itself from nothing ...."_ (at 2:50). Do atheists believe the universe created itself from nothing? Or do they claim that we don't know what the universe was created from? It's okay to say, "We don't know that (yet)." We don't need to make up a supernatural explanation for things we don't yet understand. It's like all the mythologies created to explain why the Sun and Moon travel across the sky.
I totally agree that there is a creator of the universe! And what really brought it home for me was when I was studying human anatomy and physiology and cytology. There is an intelligence behind all the systems in the body, and I was in awe of it, still am. My question to myself at the time, was how can this beautifully crafted system that works so amazingly together be anything less than originating from some kind of universal intelligence. How can the Universe and the systematic laws it functions under be just random and coincidence. It doesn't make any sense.
@@gingebrien2408 Someone once calculated ( need to dig this up ) that for ALL the millions of ‘things’ that had to align to create life, from the temporal positions of the earth to the perfect distance of the earth from the sun, the probability of all these aligning is, as you understand, incredibly small. So small that from the mathematical perspective, it’s ZERO.
@@malakai0076if God chose such a complex way of creating us, going through the pain of creating many galaxies, and within each many planetary systems, and within one of them, the perfect conditions for life to emerge, but then needing a few billion years to reach the creation of mankind, and having this mankind being such a group of fools never respecting what god wants, then God was at least very incompetent, or simply just foolish. If he was omnipotent why create such a mess ? And then why let humans risk destroying themselves ?
@@albertlevert2988 Yes have had such questions by so many. If you are genuinely ready to listen then I will do my best to explain. First of all God created time. To God time is but a line. God is at the beginning of time as well as at the end of time. He is above time. So the billions of years to God is not even a millisecond. Many in mankind are fools that have refused to believe in the One who created them. But many have and do. There is no mess. There are issues but those issues are caused by mankind. If God wanted to intervene He can and sometimes He has. However He has let mankind deal with the issue by themselves hopefully thru His laws ( that are defined to. avoid the mess ). Whether we do or we dont, He will judge not now but on the Day of Judgement which he has warned mankind of. Now my close friend Hans says "If God wanted to he could have easily feed those dying in Africa" and the likes. OK lets follow this line. So God intervenes to help the starving Africans. Wow,wait. If God can help them, God can also help me find a good job rather than sweeping the floor. God finds me a good job. Wow, if God can help me find a good job, God can also make me win the lottery. ......it will go on until there is NO REASON for God to have created us in the first place. in the Quran Allah (SWT) says "We created man and jinns to worship Him"(Q) while in another place it says "And Allah is not in need of ANY of His creation...He is free of all needs"(Q). Hope this make some sense. I am scientist and I also believe in God. Just take DNA....how complex it is....the blue print of life. No software, not even AI based models can come anywhere near the complexity of DNA.
@@troyzieman7177 athiest love going into that logical fallacy of infinite regression. you can ask "where did that come from?" over and over, a logical error. the only solution to that error is an eternal being. eternal means no start. and no end. thefore it is an uncaused cause. its the cause that caused the universe.
Atheism doesn’t claim something came from nothing - to claim that is straw manning. Atheism is simply the lack of belief in a god. Atheist have many different propositions for existence including the only truly honest one which is ‘we don’t know’! There is no evidence that ‘nothingness’ ever existed or is even possible. Just because you can’t conceive of any other way of coming into being than an intelligent agent does not mean that other possibilities do not exist - that is the fallacy of the argument from ignorance.
@@yes2835 No , you can't hold one position when it's convienant and refuse to answer when it's not . Where did God come from ? You don't like it because you can't weasel your way out of it
@@Captain101-x1o To say you don't believe something requires evidence. If you don't know, that's agnosticism (not atheism). Atheism makes a positive truth claim that they have justifiable evidence there is no God.
Well if the bible is any indicator, that doesn't really work. People still turn to false gods, hedonism etc. mere days after seeing some crazy miracle.
@@kellysmyth2337 What an educated response. You obviously are far more intelligent that I am and I bow down to your superior intellect as I am just a stupid Christian.
@@Buckets1000 Wow hundreds of years of the greatest minds the world has known debating the existence of God, yet you have it sorted just like that. Amazing.
"God has not remained distant from our human suffering but has become part of it..." ✝️🙏🥰❤️ Thank You and Praise You Lord, words fail us God, help us to live lives worthy of Your love and sacrifice 🙏, in Jesus Name Amen
He has remained distant from human suffering. He's done absolutely nothing to help people in terrible suffering. People who desperately and genuinely reached out. People who suffered appalling abuse and the worst consequences. Genocide, murder, torture. Not just stories in history but people who faced things in real-time, seeing their children murdered, seeing their loved ones taken and more. The problem with the religious proposition is it's full of overstated goodness of God and how he loves us and yet society and history is bursting with examples of his indifference and cruelty. He is not a good God, or a loving God. There is no testimony to this only that people keep repeating that he is. Tragic, misguided, thoughtless followship.
H'mm! Can you prove your assertion that God doesn't exist? Both attitudes can only be described as 'beliefs'! BTW I don't believe there's a God either!
@@rosssimpson6268yes, we can prove that God does not exist. His absence in this world is proof. The spiritual world, no one knows for sure if it even exists. All you can do is to believe, to be sure is to see and to demonstrate. That's why it is called belief.
Quoting others who believe in a god is NOT evidence of a god. It's merely evidence of the quotes of others. The absence of evidence to explain the creation of the universe is not evidence of the proof of a god. It's evidence of the absence of evidence.
I take it you use that standard when dealing with history. If you do your life's cumulative knowledge must be pretty slim. You see there is no scientific evidence for the landing of Julius Caesar on our shores.
Saying "I believe in God" does not "destroy" atheism, kids. Lennox has no evidence for his beliefs. He is lying when he says his beliefs are based on evidence.
"Lennox has no evidence for his beliefs" Yes he does - but 'evidence' is not proof. So, please tell me - WHAT kind of 'evidence' would it take to convince YOU of the existence of a Divine Power?
@@marvinc9994 "Yes he does" Great! Uhm.....what is it? "WHAT kind of 'evidence' would it take to convince YOU of the existence of a Divine Power?" Well, start with that Divine Power manifesting itself. That would be nice. Why don't you have any evidence?
@@cygnusustus "Uhm.....what is it?" Spoken in the tone of a newly-minted undergraduate, propping up the student bar! The 'evidence' he adduces is in his presentation or - to put it in simpler terms for YOUR benefit - the REASONS for his BELIEF are. Why do you PERSIST in confusing _evidence_ with _proof_ ? It's both intellectually lazy and disingenuous. As for your somewhat evasive: "start with that Divine Power manifesting itself" In WHAT way? Give me some examples! Isn't Creation ENOUGH for little ol' you? Obviously not: I'll try and arrange an appearance on _The Graham Norton Show_ . Stay tuned! I suggest (even though I'm probably wasting my time) that you at least MEDITATE on one of Jesus' most powerful statements (you'll have to see PAST the antique language): “The kingdom of God does NOT come with OBSERVATION nor will they say, ‘See here!’ or ‘See there!’ For indeed, the kingdom of God is WITHIN you”. Belief will NOT get you across the road safely - but WITHOUT it, you'd never make that brief 'journey' in the first place. Your Life - your Choice!
@@marvinc9994 "Spoken in the tone of a newly-minted undergraduate..." ...to a five year old who has just made a finger painting. "The 'evidence' he adduces is in his presentation' Ok then, child. What was it? "Why do you PERSIST in confusing evidence with proof ?" Why do Christians keep lying about having evidence? "Isn't Creation ENOUGH for little ol' you?" Ok then, child. Where is your evidence that the universe was created? Come on, buddy. Chop chop! Present your evidence?
Yet the evidence is so all ever present and obvious in our own existence and the intricate grandeur and design of the observable world that we are inseparably woven into it can seem non-existence That we exist is literally the only and greatest proof of God available and you are afloat in it and sustained by it with every breath you take
@@novakaya How do our existence prove your particular god? Could be Zeus, or the great spider of Nigerian creation myth, or the ancient mother of native American legends. How us existing and all the wonders whatever is the result of your specific god?
@@novakaya The existence of the universe is not evidence for a Creator. You are predisposed to believe in a Creator so that makes sense to you. There are physics hypotheses to explain the universe coming into existence from nothing. That doesn't mean those hypotheses are correct either. So far there is no way to look back before the moment of the big bang to find evidence for either a Creator or the physics hypotheses.
An omnipotent and omniscient God created man and the universe to worship Him? An omniscient and omnipotent God needs to be worshiped by inferior creatures?
This brings up a beautiful point. God created us but has no need of you or me. He has created us for His sake, we are made for Him and find our ultimate happiness in Him alone. He still gives us the choice to accept Him, and does not force Himself on us, but He is Goodness itself, and we will not be satisfied but by accepting His grace. Where someone gives, without expecting in return, there is love, and the gift He gives is ultimately Himself. In His goodness, He overflows, and shares Himself, through His Image, Jesus Christ.
Believing in God is a personal perspective. People ask me, "how can there be God?". I say "How can there Not be God?" My life experience says, God exists. That's good enough for me. 😊
Where is the destruction? And the fact that he is a mathematician and doesn't understand the difference between probability and possibility is embarrassing. How to destroy a god believer? Simple. Ask for proof. Because in this world those making the claim are beholden to prove it. Its called the scientific method for a reason.
Logic alone proves the need for a Creator. Its an infinite regression to say created things were created by other created things.. there must be an uncreated Creator. (Which we call God)
@@lukeheffernan854 An uncreated Creator is the 'Source' which has been termed as intelliggent energy, which is similar to A.I. so, can that be the same thing?
Well, I dont think so, since an AI cannot bring something into existence out of nothing. The most powerful stars cannot destroy or create energy, only convert it. AI also has a concrete history of being developed by human beings out of created materials. It did not always exist, and it can one day not exist, unlike the Lord our Creator, who must be eternal.
Well, we can be sure that it is correct, because look at how poor the Catholic church is, as just one example. ;-/ All religions adhere to their own tenets, don'tcha know, in this case, "Gather not up for yourselves, treasures on Earth". The hypocrisy is stifling.
What people are missing is not being aware Richard Dawkins was in the audience, what people are missing is him getting two minutes of mic time to "destroy" the mathematician's points, and religion in general.
Dawkins is great evolutionist/science but he isn't a philosopher and while you can claim all day that prime matter exists it doesn't - so there isn't anything you can do to undermine the Big Bang theory
@@John315coco MAN, did you read that comment incorrectly. And I think he meant to write 'no claims', because otherwise, that sentence and statement makes no logical sense. What EVIDENCE are you referring to? Even the bible says that it is faith alone. There IS NO evidence.
Modern science did not spring from Judeo-Christian sources. As recently as the 16th -17th century, in Judeo-Christian Europe, they argued about whether a woman has a soul.
Newton believed in witchcraft and alchemy, so not every belief held by a scientist is "science". The question is: can you show objective, testable evidence that supports your claims. Of course this video does not even contain a trace of such evidence.
I am incapable of believing in something for which there is no evidence. Faith is not fact. The more science has revealed, the greater the certainty that we are a product of the infinite diversity of a universe we will never fully comprehend. The nature and source of the elements of which we are made are known to us. The aeons of time it took for the process of life to begin and to develop are understood. Given all that we know exists and our tiny part in it, I'm inclined to believe that human existence is not a miracle but rather an inevitability. Life in all its diversity arose from a single source on this planet, and we, for all our cleverness, are just one more in a passing parade of lifeforms to have inhabited this world only to disappear in time. Our turn will come in time, be that long or short, and all our notions of an all-knowing God will pass away with us. Only human conceit could deny the fact that the universe does not care about us or our concerns. Life is a privilege, brief, and full of trouble and joy, but nothing supports the notion that it can ever be eternal.
"Only human conceit..." Which lies behind much atheistic belief, surely? It always amuses me when 'scientifically-minded' individuals start babbling on about the Universe (ie the miniscule amount they DO know about it) and the Table of Elements etc etc _ad nauseam_ as though THEY were the only ones to have received an education in Physics, Chemistry, and Mathematics - the rest of us, presumably, believing (inter alia) that the World is a flat disc resting on the backs of four elephants, and that Santa Claus (like Manmade Global Warming) is real. Not so, I fear! "I am incapable of believing in something for which there is no evidence." Really? What a colourless existence you must lead! So, if I tell you that I was madly in love with a girl in my class at the age of nine (as I was), you would be INCAPABLE of believing me UNLESS I proffered some 'evidence' (what kind, pray?), and therefore be compelled to think of me as a liar or 'delusional'? Nonsense! And you can multiply this trivial example - regarding VALID PERSONAL experience - an infinite number of times. I'm making a SERIOUS point here: how many things do YOU 'believe', WITHOUT having seen ANY compellng evidence to _support_ that belief? WHY do you CHOOSE to believe SOME things - but not others? What is it that allows you to cross a dangerously busy road if not Faith - as opposed to concrete (fore-)Knowledge - that you'll make it safely to the other side? In fact, the unspoken belief that 'one day' EVERYTHING will be explicable in _specifically_ 'scientific' terms is _itself_ distinctly UNSCIENTIFIC - in the sense that such a conviction is _essentially_ no more than an Act of Faith; albeit one no more _irrational_ than belief in Divine Intelligence - for which the Wonders of the Universe and its workings provide at least SOME slight evidence, you'll agree, just as the wonders of medieval cathedral architecture afford SOME evidence of an INTELLIGENCE behind it, SOMETHING beyond the 'accidental' assembly of molecules, as statistically 'inevitable' as all those proverbial monkeys' typing out the works of Shakespeare!
The bible says EXACTLY what you said, actually, that is it by faith that you believe. And at the rate we are going, that time is going to be very short. Assuming this happens from time to time, that sentient technologically capable life arises, that is the very number I feel they have INFINITELY overestimated in the Drake equation. They picked 10k years or so, IIRC. Seeing what is happening now, with our environment, I expect 1,000 (staying technically capable) is probably a definite stretch.
Atheism: The equivalent of a print shop accident that sends everything into a tornado of spinning letters that land in perfect harmony that is The Encyclopedia Brittanica!! 🤣
Dear Brian, Romans 1 verse 20 God says in His Word the Bible, “for since the creation of the world God's invisible qualities, his eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that all people are without excuse.” Atheists prefer to believe in the absurd and it appears they are not willing to consider anything different, like for instance how the Sun is capable of thinking that it needs to be the exact size, the perfect distance from Earth, the correct heat so that it would be able to sustain life and has continued to burn faithfully. The Sun figured that all out. We could also talk about the moon or how the Planets which have deferent Characteristics could have come from a big explosion. Out of that explosion when everything settled everything became orderly and the Planets became round. Trees knew that they had to come into existence before life could come because they knew that we needed Oxygen. Why is it that man would rather believe something could come from nothing and yet those things had to think it through so that everything could be? Yes, I know that now they are starting to say that maybe everything was here already, and it was not a Big Bang. My problem with that is not a man in this World has ever seen something that was Created outside of Nature. All things that man has made took a mind to make, nothing has come to be unless a man designed it or created it. Yet Atheist wish to believe that the Universe Created itself when they have not a stitch of Evidence to prove it.
No he doesn’t prove anything. He just believes in his imaginary friend in the sky. He believes because he wants to. He believes without any proof whatsoever. What sort of scientist is he?
1. The Big bang was a theory made by a priest. 2. Just as you ask us "Who created god?" We ask "Who created the Big bang?" Both have no answer and are as right as wrong.
A puddle wakes up one morning and thinks: 'This is an interesting world I find myself in - an interesting hole I find myself in - fits me rather neatly, doesn't it? In fact it fits me staggeringly well, must have been made [by God?] to have me in it!' (Douglas Adams}
even though its a bad joke that nobody takes seriously, it makes 1000% more sense than saying it popped into existense out of nothing and somehow rearranged itself and then saying the puddle also popped into existense, with consciousness and all those things that inevitably require an intelligent mind
even though its a bad joke that nobody takes seriously, it actually makes sense, rather than saying things popped into existense out of nothing and rearranged themselves (which we never observed happening), all leads to intelligent mind
He does not attack atheists or even atheism but rather gives a solid basis for his faith as a scientist. I appreciate the respectful but unapologetic approach.
It's not a solid base. Just confirmation bias.
Faith = ignorance sacralization.
So, God made himself from nothing, then made something, and everything originated from nothing. If you believe God as the most powerful and intelligent being came from nothing, then you believe in evolution.
@@circusserpent9466 Must God come from something?
@@mariogreco729 If God comes from nothing, he IS Nothing
He provides no basis and no evidence. He asserts that A, he sees a question that no one can answer (what came before the big bang) and then B, he inserts God as the answer. That's not evidence but like most people of faith, he states that Atheists believe "something came from nothing" is an obtuse mischaracterization that apologists foolishly use as some kind of "proof".
I’ve watched this video a few times, and while John Lennox makes some interesting points, I don’t think the title matches what’s in the video. He doesn’t actually "destroy" atheism or prove that God exists. Instead, Lennox talks about why he believes in God and argues that faith can go hand-in-hand with science.
The title seems like it’s just there to grab attention. If you’re expecting solid proof against atheism, you might not find it here. But the video is still worth watching if you want to hear a thoughtful take on how science and belief in God can work together.
I hate it but have to understand why they titled the video like that. Works great for the algorithm despite being somewhat BS
@@GitauSimon LOL, I think 'clickbait' is the word we're looking for.
God destoys Atheist, anyone with common sense can see that everything was created because something has never come from nothing. Give me evidence that you have seen something in your lifetime that came from nothing. Want evidence of creation look at anything you can see and it had to be made because it had a beginning.
@@robertrlkatz6890 I see where you’re coming from, but sometimes “common sense” can miss the bigger picture. The idea that “something has never come from nothing” is a longstanding philosophical debate, but it’s important to remember that just because we don’t fully understand the origins of the universe, that doesn’t automatically prove the existence of a divine creator. This is an example of an argument from ignorance-concluding that God must exist simply because we lack a complete explanation for how the universe began.
Also, when you say “God destroys atheism,” it’s worth asking-how exactly is that happening? As an atheist, I’m still here in the discussion, so it seems like the “destruction” hasn’t exactly taken place. My main point was just that the video’s title doesn’t match what John Lennox actually talks about. I think it’s valuable for all of us to stay open to different perspectives and not just rely on what seems obvious at first glance.
The proof is rational deduction not empirical evidence. Life the MBR that he mentioned. That demands an explanation.
As Aquinas and Al Ghazali pointed out... Everything that begins has a beginner.
John Lennox always radiates peace. Richard Dawkins never looks like he has a moment of it.
ignorance is bliss...
If one of Hamas agents turn cloaks and advocate for peace. While all the others of the cult planterrorist attacks. And you have a debate. Will you let the turn cloak disarm you for the sake of a futile attempt to make peace? I know it is a extreme analogy but religion isn't what the world need in large. And debates are for poeple who actually want to know. That is the main thing. Perhaps there should be better understanding and climate between belivers and unbelievers. But that is not the most important thing. And it is harder to achive than that-
People say I “radiate” peace, and I don’t need religion to be that way. Just because 1 or 1 million believe means absolutely nothing, only to them.
@@buddyhek did they delete my comment?
This is an eloquent and forceful defence of one man’s belief in a deity. It proves nothing, other than he can cite some great minds who share his belief. That’s fine, but if anyone thinks this is proof of anything, then they’re indulging in wishful thinking.
Wow that was courage to present one's faith in front of those people. That was absolutely refreshing to hear and see Glory to God!
Some facts about religions…
There are round 4900 official religions in the world.
They worship round 6000 gods.
All claim…many with scripture…that the god they worship is the only right one.
PROOF you religion and hod is the right one.
And proof means more then just one book and hearsay stories.
No proof the others are wrong.
Till then…
You believe in one god less then an atheïst.
You don’t believe in 4899 gods
We not in 4900
Good luck
really? Where is God? Can you prove it with evidence? Because all that Lennox said is that we don't understand the universe.
When asked if he believed in God, Einstein answered :
"tell me what is your idea of God, then I'll tell you if I believe that"
😊
And what is the idea of god?
@@bartholomewlyons well I guess everyone has his own idea ... some have no idea at all
When asked if he believed in God, Carl Jung answered;
"I do not believe, I know"
I would rather agree with Jung, though I would not say "I know" because it is rather arrogant, and it is not exactly a "knowledge".
I would rather say
"I witness His presence"
@@jeangatti9384 It certainly sounds grander!
@@jeangatti9384 wow👌
Einstein, exactly
I'm not an atheist by any means. Not even an agnostic. but in my opinion, this video fails to meet the threshold of “destroying atheism.“ I was very disappointed in listening to it.
yup. only a theist would be impressed. Dawkins looked bored, not destroyed.
As a Catholic, I can agree. It did not speak to reason and the heart fully, and I do not think the resurrection can be proved the way God’s existence can. However, that does not mean faith and science contradict, nor that pure philosophy alone is not enough to deduce the existence of an all powerful Cause of the universe (which has no better name than God).
Why in your opinion, is that the case? Surely, you can give actual reasons backed up by rational argument if you truly hold such an opinion?
@@jayb5128 That's an impressive argument you make.
Click bait as usual
Absolutely excellent 👏so grateful that GOD is who He is, gracious, merciful, kind, faithful, loving & just.
So what about all the evil and torture in the world?
You are talking about the being that designed the food chain in which animals have to brutally kill each other to survive? Have you ever seen a falcon eating a prey when it's still alive? Merciful right? Or are you talking about the being that designed bio-robots (yes, us) and then blamed the robots for all the software bugs he himself put in? The being that watches us torturing, killing and raping each other in the most sadistic and horrendous ways and does nothing?
And if you are referring to that being, where do gracious, merciful, kind, faithful, loving & just come in exactly?
What a marvelous beautiful explanation of Dr, John ! More practical, more philosophical and more scientific. Love it👌👍❤
It's easier to defend the truth than to defend a lie
Noooooo.
Exactly. And that's why this man's speech fails.
Seems as though he's defending the truth pretty easily...!
@@krookedarrow9869 What truth? lol
@@krookedarrow9869sure he gives us a tour of how he views his chosen ideology but he doesn’t defend it, go into any depth, deal with any contrary views. It’s just a list of claims. Claims which need evidence. It’s not at all compelling or persuasive.
How radical yet authentic to hear an Oxford mathematician stand up for what I myself have come to accept as the truth, that Christ is not only Saviour, but also judge, yet presented without threat, without guile--- I can only add my Amen!
God Almighty who created Jesus is the savior and the judge.
That's great. Now if you can demonstrate all that, we're good.
@@Pikeandslippers You believe in the big bang and as of yet we have had no demonstrations...try being consistent. You might find that the evidence for God is all around you.
@@dulls8475who said I believe in the big bang? It's one of a few scientific theories with reems more evidence than saying ' I don't understand this, therefore God'.
Looking around me? Sure the natural environment is evidence for natural processes not a divine creator. You don't appear to understand evidence or sound epistemology.
Give me just one testable piece of evidence for a creator of the universe.
@@dulls8475Actually, the cosmic microwave background (CMB) demonstrates the big bang. But hey ho, science and all.😊
Powerful message with lots of wisdom from above of this man. Yes, him and us the simple people find meaning, purpose, forgiveness, life and hope in God through the resurrected Jesus. May many more find the same by trusting Him! Blessings from Albania!
They have ears but don't hear, eyes but don't see!
Where is the problem? The heart.
By proving God's existence Atheism is destroyed.
I am a Christian man. Orthodox and protestant in theology. And I see many logical and rational holes in Lennox's argument. Many fallacies committed. Many assumptions that are clearly in error. He uses the term "egalitarian" to refer to Christian beliefs. Does he realize that there are many Christians that believe (based upon the Bible) that women should not preach (and some believe women shouldn't be able to vote)? Hardly, "egalitarian". He also speaks of man being "rational". We do not have to go down through history very far to discover that man is hardly rational. As Bertrand Russell said well: "Man is a rational animal. So at least we have been told. Throughout a long life I have searched diligently for evidence in favor of this statement. So far, I have not had the good fortune to come across it.". This is just the beginning Lennox's problems.
The problem is....belief in something is not nor ever has been nor ever will be taken as proof or evidence. One may believe what one chooses but believing is NOT proof !
All those who must have tangible proof but wont accept anything even if its offered. It just means that person wont believe no matter what. Im always curious as to why those people hang out in these types of videos.
Okay Sir/Ma
Someday, you'll get a proof, and I hope it won't get too late!
Romans 9 provides one answer, but most are not prepared to face that truth. If your view is restricted to just one subspace, there is no way to see the whole space no matter how hard you try.
Yes, a belief does not have to be true to be effective.
I agree! At last count, I 'believe', there are approximately 4,200 worldwide religions to choose, or not to choose, from...and each with, or without, its own higher authority(ies).
A thought to ponder:
put 100 scientists to work on a problem, and yes they may all start out with different hypotheses and discover, interpret, and reinterpret facts in different ways along the way, but they eventually come to a consensus on an answer, and the answer will be one that we can effectively use - because of the evidence that they can test and verify themselves.
Put 100 theologians to work on a question by using faith, and although they may all start out from the same religious perspective, you will end up with at least 100 denominations, factions (a blend of fact and fiction), and even new religions (all with their own denominations and factions), and there will be no objective, reliable way to decide between them.
That, more or less, leaves us, with or without, two more choices; Science's evidence without certainty, and/or religion's certainty without evidence!
Peace...
If beliefs were automatically facts, everybody would be golden.
So what facts do you have for the universe beginning?
Yes, that is where Dawkins really fails, his beliefs aren't facts.
Romans 10:9
@@dulls8475
All those are much more probable than your fictional charedter god.
Here is a short list of major theories about the origin of the universe:
1. *Big Bang Theory* : The universe began as a singularity and has been expanding ever since.
2. *Steady State Theory* : The universe is eternal and unchanging, with continuous creation of matter.
3. *Oscillating Universe Theory* : The universe undergoes infinite cycles of expansion and contraction.
4. *Inflation Theory* : A rapid expansion occurred immediately after the Big Bang, smoothing and flattening the universe.
5. *Multiverse Theory* : Our universe is one of many universes that exist simultaneously.
@@RRR-AUM " ill take experiences " Delusional ones????
"then i had NDE and died after surgery june 4 1994" LMAO. What a bunch of bullcrap.
Do Muslims see jesus in their NDEs? LMAO
Atheism stands undestroyed. Wow.
So do we christians.
@@LucasPatutas you are part of the end of Xtianity
John is a treasure to humanity.😊
John Lennox had a nice debate with Christopher Hitchens! That’s worth the watch!!
Wise words indeed
Science and faith have always been linked. But they don't want you to make that connection today. Today they want you to believe science and faith are separate. Can't believe in one without the other. For nothing has ever been created from nothing
I guess you're ignorant of the big bang singularity.
Yeah, science has acquired these bad habits of insisting on self-consistency, repeatability, falsifiability and logical directness (among others). If God appeared to a scientist, he or she would probably want him to come back the next day for a urine sample and a DNA swab.
@@ronkempke6673That apparently came from nothing…
@@ronkempke6673 no I'm not last I checked it's still a theory....you know what a theory is right...
@@edkudray2060 Science and faith are not linked. Science is the systematic study of the structure and behavior of the physical and natural world through observation, experimentation, and the testing of theories against the evidence obtained. Faith requires no study or testing of evidence. As for the nothing argument; there is nothing about atheism that expresses any view point on that issue. And the big bang does not presume that something came from nothing; only that our known universe came from a singularity. It does not presume to know what may or may not have existed prior to that moment. Lastly, you appear to want to use the grade school definition of 'theory,' as opposed to how that term is used in science.
🎂The cake maker knows why they made the cake.
Only aunty Mathilda knows why she made the cake
Does a machine know why it made the cake ?
Does the cake maker need ingredients to make a cake?
the cake maker then blames the cakes when he made the bad cakes
Exactly! He create this world in his infinite wisdom and for his own glory. To create is proper to a Diety. Thus God proves himself to be the true God and distinguishes himself from idols.
This is fantastic, may God bless you abundantly
I'm not an atheist. However good presentation of this motivational talk to Christian believers may be, it does not destroy atheism (at any point if the said 15 minutes)
Indeed - the title was ill-chosen!
He sidelined it
he clearly logically showed the paradox of atheism saying science pursuit the truth and by coincidence discovering physical and mathematical laws describing perfectly the universe starting from a postition humans are motivated only by survivor instincts then evolution based on surviving cannot produce science pursuing the truth because for each person surviving principles are different. It's a bit subtle and you need a logically trained mind to understand it. Dawkins red in his face during the whole speech got it perfectly and knew he couldn't logically argue that.
@@margotmargot4426 Unfortunately, this is a terrible argument and there is an easy way to logically argue against it. Evolution favors traits that allow species to reproduce and pass down their genes. For us, these traits include pattern recognition, abstract thinking, memory, etc. Our excellent memory and pattern recognition allows us to avoid circumstances of danger that we might have already experienced. Abstract thinking allows us to come up with responses to fictitious scenarios, and those prepare us for real life dangers. Then, these traits bloom over the course of millions of years, culminating with Homo sapiens.
You see? It's perfectly reasonable for us to have evolved to rationally analyze the world. It's a trait that is favorable for natural selection. Then, science and pursuing the truth follow naturally from our language, communication, observations, and analysis.
Why are people so afraid to say, 'I don't know what caused this.' May it be life, suffering, happiness, fairness, unhappiness. In the chain of possible answers to the question why they are what they are, there is always a last why-question, to which the answer is 'We don't know'. Religion tries to close that line with the belief in God as an ultimate answer. Christians do not know that there is a God; they believe it. Atheists do not know that there is nothing after death; they believe it. I embrace the thought that the fact that you can ask a question does not mean there is an answer.
.. SO .. ''NARFLE THE GARTHOK'' .. ''M'KAY'' ?
I am a Christian and I know there is God. Not from reading but from an encounter
@@HerbertRatidzaiMaambira Would you introduce me to your god. That would make me believe especially if your god then made all amputees regrow their limbs.
@@HerbertRatidzaiMaambira. Did you ask god why is there so much suffering in the world?
Only because it's easier to attribute anything they don't understand to being the work of a supernatural entity. They look in awe at the Universe and gasp, "God must have made all of this." Yet they cannot conceive that the Biblical God was created by Man to keep other men in check; that God needed to be a fiece God so the preist could shout, "Behave or God will come for you!" and when there was thunder and lighning, he could shout, "God is angry with you!" The god they worship so fervently is actually the Nature they so mindlessly destroy.
Alternative take: Oxford mathematician argues for, but fails to prove the existence of God.
There is ZERO proof against His existence. BUT thousands of proof He DOES. Your mere existence and everything in life hinges on God. For the unbelieving there will be a time you will KNOW what it really is to be without God. For now He is offering grace. Today IS the day to give Him the glory DUE His Name ❤❤❤
@@sandrajarboe7542 you dont belive in, lets say 2000 known Gods. some dont belive in 2000 PLUS ONE God.
you have the right one? say that to the rest of modern Gods...
also biggest sin is not beliveing? but for other sins you just ask forgivness, and all is ok?
what God with ego problems cares about disbeliveif? he is omnipotent, and cares if i belive in him. funny.
@@sandrajarboe7542 prove that fairies don't exist
@@1tw33t yes I Absolutely have THE ONE
@@ianfong1000 straw man argument for sure...
All the others have long papers of their notes but legend has a small piece of pages written important points and quotations. Great!
He presented quotes from believers and inference as though they were evidence. His argument is dripping with “god of the gaps.”
THE TRUTH SHALL SET US FREE!!!
Free from what?
@@blueduck5589 From the one and only enslaving factor: Stolidity.
And that is through science and knowledge gained. Evolution through natural selection. ('Knowledge' doesn't have faith anywhere near it; not even at far distance. How could it? Faith is the dark. The dark is the absence of light. The dark is not a thing of existence.
@@Mcfreddo Faith, from Latin fides "trust, confidence".
Some people have faith in amulets, many people have faith in science.
@@billiswillis8293 The true meaning of "faith" is "belief", so stop using it in the name of religion. One has to believe in something, no matter what that something might be. And this has nothing to do with religion.
If people find a carved stone placed on top of another, they say it's a remnant of a great civilization, but no one says nature made it. However, when it comes to a highly complex single cell, they say nature made it.
Well yes, nature is infinitely more powerful than a human civilization, unlike humans it doesn't need a mind.
I love Prof Lennox. God bless him more and more. He is very humble, therefore he can speak to his colleagues at famous university in UK. Thank you for sharing.
100% proof God does not exist. There is 97% Salt Water and only 3% Fresh Water on earth. If there really was a God he would have created a lot more fresh water. Common sense.
I agree that he gives his speech in a cultured manner, but it does not make it true.
The mental gymnastics is amazing. Being sentient and aware of one's own mortality.
The reason you didn't hear him is because you are reprobate concerning the truth. You fight God at every corner and you refuse to listen to him. For this cause God has given you over to a reprobate mind. I'm sorry for you friend. There's no coming back from this.
@@LiftUpYourEyes David, I challenge you to read the Bible, starting with the New Testament. After reading the entire Bible, I believe you will change your belief. I challenge you to start with a prayer asking Gid to reveal Himself to you, He will. You must be serious not flippant. God will open your eyes to whom He really is, "The Great I Am." Praying you do so.
@@LiftUpYourEyes So....God is talking to you? How do you know it's him, and not just voices in your head, like all the other people in the mental hospital?
@@LiftUpYourEyes there is no god to fight. Are you hallucinating?
@@RJ-rn3uv the great "I AM" is better understood through eastern religions than christianity.
You can see in this video how an oxford mathematician does'nt destroy atheism at all.
Atheism is alive and well as is obvious by your post. Seek the Lord while you can....
Correct, he adroitly sidelines it.
@@dulls8475 instead of seeking the lord, why doesn't the lord just show himself up and tell us he is god? That shouldn't be a big deal for a god.
That's the only way atheism will vanish once and for all.
But since your god (like every other god of every religion) always rely on people to speak for him, he is just as fictional as Harry Potter, therefore atheism remains.
@@ivancauchi860 He did. He is called Jesus Christ. He also made a universe so complex that it points to God with every breath you take.
@@dulls8475 There are ridiculously about 5000 man made religions each one of them claims it's god is the one true, what makes you think your god stands out from the others?
I couldn't of put it better myself clearly a very intelligent man 👍
A bad title, but an excellent talk. Dr. Leenox provided arguments against atheism but in a respectful way. He is pointing to the signs of intelligent design, he is hinting at the profound literary nature of scripture, not it's profound literalism. He is hinting at the creation account not being a literal account of *how* the universe was created, but the literary *home* story of why the creator made it and our relationship to him. He is asking great questions and encouraging us the listener student to be curious and go in search of answers. In doing so you will likely discover that God was pursuing and discovering you, not you who was searching out God. Fabulous and will listen again.
He did not present a single position that was accurate demonstrateable but assertions and strawmen
What was there before there was something? If something came from nothing, then even nothing was something!
There was God before something.
@@olivertulabing7547 exactly!
@@The_Blessed_Cowboy
I forgot who it was that asked “what does a rock think of? Nothing… and that’s what atheists believe began everything”
@@Nutterbutter123 it's a hard thing for most people to wrap their heads around when they think what was there before creation? Obviously God! It still drives me a bit crazy trying to even think about it. I try and approach it with child like faith. Perhaps one day God will reveal it to all His people.
@@The_Blessed_Cowboy well, take into account some people who don’t believe in God justify their views with what they perceive as logical reasoning- like they’ve never experienced personal evidence or they can’t wrap their head around what the Bible speaks of or they only go by what’s in front of their eyes.
Then there’s those with personal grievance or place their own morals against the very Author such as anger towards a church or church goers, or they cant understand why God allows evil and therefore summarize because He can’t exist, or that science is the only explanation and what it can’t explain now it will one day with enough data, or that they’ve experience horrible things and have anger towards Him. People have their reasons and don’t put the effort in beginning a relationship with Him.
And if they do believe in a creator, they have an idea of what a creator is to them and sometimes they don’t like a God that would pour His wrath on His Son, not understanding the necessity of it.
Or sometimes it’s as simple as they can’t decide which church is “right”, so they don’t go at all and don’t attempt anything
It’s a hard thing for some to grasp, because it would mean a very deep and profound change in lifestyle, drastically for most.
Submission requires a lot for the stubborn and stiff-necked.
We got to have empathy for them, and when we come across a non believer in love, it’s important to talk to them humbly and question in sincerity why they justify either a disinterest or an anger towards Him. And then work in that direction.
I still fail to see the part where he "destroys" atheism!
You only saw and unable to listen
There is no destroying. There is only one truth and he showed it. It is a feeling an understanding you only can get from the holy spirit. I hope you get this understanding one day.
Enjoy watching your videos, very helpful, I was reading Larry Burkett's book on "Giving and Tithing" And it drew me closer to God and helped my spirituality. 2020 was a year I literally lived it. I cashed in my life savings and gave it all away. My total giving amounted to 40,000 dollars. Everyone thought I was delusional. Today, I receive 85,000 dollars every two months. I have a property in Calabasas, CA, and travel a lot. God has promoted me more than once and opened doors for me to live beyond my dreams. God kept to his promises to and for me
There's wonder working power in following Kingdom principles on giving and tithing. Hallelujah!
But then, how do you get all that in that period of time? What is it you do please, mind sharing?
It is the digital market. That's been the secret to this wealth transfer. A lot of folks in the US and abroad are getting so much from it, God has been good to my household Thank you Jesus
And thanks to my co-worker (Michael) who suggested Mrs Daisy Clara
How can I start this digital market, any guidelines and how can I reach out to her?
So glad to hear your unchallengeable argument about the existence of God. We believe that Jesus is not the son of God but a messenger of God.
He came to preach the oneness of God.
God is ever living , & a sustainer of all beings.
So unfortunate to say, but if he was not God why would he say he is one with God.
What does been one mean to you?
Also you and I will accept that he(jesus) never lied.
Now if jesus never lied why would he say what he is not.
There is intimate and ultimate truth in his personality as God and that's the Truth.
Many don't understand because their heart are harden towards the reality.
Sorry dear but Jesus is God in Human form.
I do not believe his goal was to destroy anything, but rather give hope to those who believe in nothing. God and Jesus is my hope and I lack the enormous amount of faith it woujd take for me to be an atheist. May God bless this gentleman.
So he "destroys" Atheism, by talking for 15 minutes straight with nobody able to argue against him? Okay.
Watch a debate between Lennox and Richard Dawkins
Maybe you destroy creationism by arguing your head against your dick Einstein
And if horses had a god he’d look like a horse! Bertrand Russell
Funny how the Christian God is an all powerful, uncreated Being, Being itself- the source of all existence, infinitely Good, True, and Beautiful… kind of different than a human no?
Maybe he/her does
Mr. Russell may think differently now.
But God doesnt have a definite shape. Thats the thing, you all think God looks like a human, but God has no shape, and you cant Accept that
To believe or not to believe is not the important question. What matters is, if you believe what you do as a consequence.
"We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts". 2 Peter 1:19
Speak properly. You sound like you’re trying to impress me ? You’re not.
Quotes have zero to do with actualities; just guys from a long time ago expressing their agendas.
@@Known-unknowns I am not trying to impress you, I am just quoting a Bible verse. Prophecy is very important, it authenticates the Bible.
Yes, you are. But please don't. It's enormously insulting to human intelligence. But I guess you know that. That's why you do it.
@@berniethebolt3007 All I am trying to do is spread the truth of God's word, because it is the only REAL truth available. Evolution is enormously insulting to human intelligence. I am guessing that you are an evolutionist.
What is happening in this world today, and it is going to get much worse, the Bible prophesied. We are on the verge of eternity and Jesus is coming back for His people, those who have accepted His death on their behalf. Those who reject Christ will not survive, if the sacrifice of Jesus on the cross does not move people, nothing will. I wish you well.
No amount of belief makes something a fact…
No amount of disbelief would make something less true.
@@bobbygene8274So if every body believed in unicorns it means they exist? Difference in believing and knowing. You believe he is real, I know he is not and can prove it. In fact it gets proven every day.
@@Tony-uq8tn You are constantly misusing the terms ‘proven’ and ‘proof’. It’s torturous.
A very Atheist thing to say.
@@InExcelsisDeo24 Good, don't read my comments in future. Or maybe your makebelief God will stop me doing it? Nah don't think so.
He didn't destroy one single thing .
He just says X thing exists because of God a bunch of times.
Lennox does not deatroy, he builds.
So then what's your refutation to what he says?
@@RYUObake BUt no, I do agree with prof. Lennox on all aspects.
@@tatjana9229 I wasn't replying to you friend. I was replying to other person. No worries.
@@RYUObake I posted a comment in the main thread in which I list logical fallacies, non-arguments, and manipulations in this video.
God bless you great scientist and man of God. Atheism is a consequence of misunderstanding of the God. It's sad that modern day atheism is becoming a radical religion itself worshipping science as a god.
This man is an angel. If one single soul is saved, and becomes a believer; then it is more worthy than all the science in the world. Also, can you explain love? You can’t see it, you can’t touch it, you can’t smell it; but you can only feel it and so does God. Science can’t explain God, but in despite of “feeling Him and experiencing Him” in thousands of ways, scientists deny Him and His existence. Well, how is it does He exist? Let’s say a scientist says I’m so sick, and lonely,where is God? Easy, God responds: “The nurse that care for you, the doctor that was assigned to you, the warm chicken soup that you eat today. That was me taking care of you”. Glory to God for all eternity. Amen!
Yes I can explain love. And no you can't explain invisible wizard in the sky that loves people when 10.000 children die of hunger every day and Hitler killed 6 million of gods disciples and then he died whenever he wanted by commiting suicide.
God is a fairytale.
Science can explain whatever deity. Never heard of psychology, sociology, antropology ...?
We can measure and detect neural activities and production of chemicals in the body that are related to what we call "love", just as we can with other elusive 'conditions' like sorrow, etcetera.
For us simpler minded folks I look at something like love. Evolution without God needs attraction to maintain the species but what purpose does love have in such a system? I believe our need to connect with one another is because we all come from the same Divine Family where we were all joined and we long to be reconnected to our brothers and sisters.
I'll posit an answer: Love binds mating pairs of humans to each other and to their offspring. Love binds those families to the tribe. Love binds those tribes to human society. And human society is an extremely potent force for survival.
@@k7jeb I agree. So is that an argument for or against the existence of God? If it’s an argument against then I would counter with why does love have to exist at that level when simple attraction allows the species to continue along with packs, flocks or whatever that solve for the community? IMO love goes way beyond the “need” for simple existence that nature affords the rest of the animal world.
@@cjen1959 My point is that survival, either of the individual or of the species, is the final arbiter of existence. If "love", "faith in God" or brute physical strength enhances survival, then those attributes will propagate into the future with the surviving individuals. For humans, the big survival attribute is a complex, highly flexible social organization that effectively counters existential threats. Whatever the mental or physical constructs used for that social organization are, they become a part of the individuals who survive and reproduce.
What "Devine Family"? FACT: We all came from our ancestors -- from prehistoric humans who came from ape-men who came from apes, etc. etc. And that's not a BELIEF...nor is it "DEVINE." Animals also long for their own kind.
@@Steve52344 I’m referring to the soul not the flesh.
Nothing from Nothing leaves Nothing.
Something from Something leads to Everthing!
Who says everything was created from nothing? lol
That sounds like "An answer that answers everything answers nothing."
@@jjevans1693where did everything come from? Wanna do quantum physics?
@@davep3014 Nobody knows exactly how everything came into being. That's the point. I would rather not pretend to know things that humanity simply doesn't yet know.
And nothing from something is still that something
and something from nothing is negative something ...
So Richard Lennox believes in God. Well, he is a Christian, seems like he should. NOTHING of what he said proves anything one way or the other beyond is own belief.
2:06 , “That’s like asking people to choose between Henry Ford and Engineering as an explanation of the motor car.”
No. It's not like that at all. To say that is to fail to understand atheism
@@ploppysonofploppy6066 Atheism in all its forms and views is fatalistic and hopeless.
@@mauriceharting5877Or realistic.
These posts show how little knowledge humanity has, many cannot accept that their beliefs are being challenged as the world collapses without a saviour to come to the rescue... as long as man uses his brain extinction by his own hand is inevitable. Perhaps if division is removed then perhaps then perhaps.... I'm going to listen to The Dark Side of the Moon 🙏
@@mauriceharting5877 I imagine you write that because you do not understand atheism.
This man believes what he wants to believe but has made no argument to persuade anyone else to believe the same thing.
Then you did not understand what he said. Perhaps you are expecting a logical or rational proof, and not just a multitude of reasons that belief is more rational than believing that there is no God in existence. For example, why is the universe as we now know it by scientific methods and tools, so large and yet EXPANDING! Why not just a simple and static universe wherein the big bang happened but petered out such that the universe will eventually shrink such that it will collapse back into itself? Growth is the order of the day and both science and religion say that growth is and has been and thus will continue in the future? Atheism has zero explanation for that truth. Atheism has no explanation for life itself. Despite the truths found in evolution, it says exactly zero about what created life nor anything about WHY life was created. It only says that life DIVERSIFIED or grew as it were. As this man so eloquently put it, the SURVIVAL of life was the main point or concern embodied in the answers posited by evolution. Nothing about WHY?? To QUOTE CAPTAIN Kirk in a battle of logic with the M-5 unit, "Why must you(M-5) survive??" The murder M-5 had committed was completely against its (M-5) stated purpose, ie to protect and serve mankind from the dangers of space exploration and travel. Atheism provides NO PURPOSE to the question of WHY must there be life? If one were CHOOSING between A and B, and A does something that B does not, nor ever can, does that not favor choosing A over B? Remember, you are asserting that the man made NO ARGUMENT to choose A over B. But I have just explained in only ONE AREA that A is preferable to B. That is called an argument for the purpose of persuasion. Choose A not B, are the ONLY requirements for qualifying as a persuasive argument or persuasive reason. If you expect anything more than that form, you are looking for something else, my friend.
Science discoveries are nothing but them finding what God put here already!!!!😊
Never let the latest scientific unknown be a barrier to filling it with a God. We have been pushing the ‘God Gap’ back and back with reason and science for hundreds of years and we will continue to do so.
Lies ended when confronted with "TRUTH".
Which of the two you consider a lie and which one you consider as truth?
At what moment? He pushed those religious lies to the very end.
So, to be short this whole video is: I can't explain it, so God
Same as always
@@arielreina8552 That's exactly the origin of gods. Everything people couldn't explain would certainly be the works of gods.
Not sure you absorbed any of that if that's your takeaway. Perhaps give it another go?
Or,I can't explain it..I must be God.....lol
Worse still, some parts are like: "science already has an explanation, but no, lets stick god there" (e.g. how we evolved morality, how human brains evolved, etc.).
Amen, Amen and Amen!! There is such a problem in this world : the ungodliness and therefore lawlessness. Thank you you Pastor Daniel. God bless you abundantly.
I love this! Thank you!
Even when I was a borderline atheist , I still believed that God could exist and who’s origin could be explained so easily to even a hardcore atheist scientist; x amounts of time ago, virtually infinite to us, a super advanced civilization could have invented some form of super computer or AI that overtime became infinitely powerful , so powerful it was able to create universes , totally self aware, create heaven and earth, etc. so powerful we couldn’t even begin to comprehend its power . See even a hardcore atheist should be able to believe that’s a possibility
As a hard core scientist, I absolutely agree that this could be true. I’m pretty sure that conflicts with most believer’s concept of a supernatural god. I don’t think they have more advanced science in mind.
@@paulb2760Oh we do 🙂 Possibly more than atheists.
@@paulb2760 the thing is, the entity could be so powerful that it could indeed have become ‘supernatural’. At what point does something become so inconceivably powerful that it bridges the gap that we think of as science vs supernatural
@@paulb2760 my other personal theory , although I’m sure someone much smarter than me has said it before, but I don’t think I’ve ever read about it anywhere or heard about it but maybe…. Anyway it’s that if the universe is truly infinite, to my mind, that would mean EVERYTHING is real, including God, heaven , hell etc because in a truly infinite universe/multiverse everything has infinite chances of becoming real which means with infinite amount of time it would inevitably become real an infinite amount of times. If this makes sense…. I’m having trouble articulating my point
So what you saying is that god is an "antient and advanced" civilization. Who created an AI? Well, so is there god for that cavitation? Or it just came to be? An effect without cause. So no matter how far you will try to remove the "creation" event, it still does not explain why "existence" develops from simple to complicated. And if complicated somehow existed before the simple... well, it loses the whole sense isn't it?
As with other comments, you can't destroy athiesm , any more than you can destroy a lack of belief leprechauns exist.
Know the truth and the truth will set you free
This is so wonderful. He explained it so very very well. He explained it so well that I wish I could do it that way, but I haven't the intelligence.
Thank you professor.
Richard Dawkins must have been slightly impressed in his cold little atheist heart.
Our Words From Jesus were LOVE that Cures all Only The Christian religion Teaches Love All
Contrast with Islam - which teaches permanent _jihad_ against ALL Unbelievers - until the WHOLE world has been conquered, at which point 'peace' will reign - under the 'Religion of Peace' (an expression whose significance silly people simply fail to understand!).
Christ is a title, not a surname. Yeshua was claimed to be the Christ by his followers. None of his apostles had surnames, Peter, Luke, Mathew, Mark, Thomas, etc.
Delusional
@@icesculpting4you
"Delusional"
So you BELIEVE (or hope)! But you don't actually KNOW, do you - as a psychiatrist would, when faced with a _genuinely_ delusional subject? And to be frank, your single-word response hardly contributes to what _should_ be a rather interesting debate, does it? So - why did you even bother?
_"But people are now so desperate to show that the universe created itself from nothing ...."_ (at 2:50). Do atheists believe the universe created itself from nothing? Or do they claim that we don't know what the universe was created from? It's okay to say, "We don't know that (yet)." We don't need to make up a supernatural explanation for things we don't yet understand. It's like all the mythologies created to explain why the Sun and Moon travel across the sky.
Mankind is not yet advanced enough to understand what God actually is.
Yeah as an atheist I think most of us just believe that we don't know what or when the universe existed
@@ChristineHannahs correction: we are not advanced enough to know whether or not there is a god.
He has not destroyed Atheism in any way.
Atheism isn’t a religion, it’s lack of belief in a deity. There’s no way to destroy that.
Obviously not, because it still exists, but if you still believe that nothing came from nothing something is wrong with you
@@theblueadventurer615 I do not believe that something came from nothing but God obviously did.
@@theblueadventurer615. Where did your god come from?
@@plrt6794where did your Big bang come from?
I totally agree that there is a creator of the universe! And what really brought it home for me was when I was studying human anatomy and physiology and cytology. There is an intelligence behind all the systems in the body, and I was in awe of it, still am. My question to myself at the time, was how can this beautifully crafted system that works so amazingly together be anything less than originating from some kind of universal intelligence. How can the Universe and the systematic laws it functions under be just random and coincidence. It doesn't make any sense.
All he proves is that there are certain kinds of nonsense which are compatible with their own nonsensical consequences.
wow what a nice and scientific rebuttal you made there, very philosophical, teach me more!
I was hoping he would show me how mathematically it is improbable that our world came out of nothing but demands in a greater power.
If you watch the movie. "God's not dead" it's a great explainer.
@@gingebrien2408 Someone once calculated ( need to dig this up ) that for ALL the millions of ‘things’ that had to align to create life, from the temporal positions of the earth to the perfect distance of the earth from the sun, the probability of all these aligning is, as you understand, incredibly small. So small that from the mathematical perspective, it’s ZERO.
@@malakai0076if God chose such a complex way of creating us, going through the pain of creating many galaxies, and within each many planetary systems, and within one of them, the perfect conditions for life to emerge, but then needing a few billion years to reach the creation of mankind, and having this mankind being such a group of fools never respecting what god wants, then God was at least very incompetent, or simply just foolish. If he was omnipotent why create such a mess ? And then why let humans risk destroying themselves ?
@@albertlevert2988 Yes have had such questions by so many. If you are genuinely ready to listen then I will do my best to explain. First of all God created time. To God time is but a line. God is at the beginning of time as well as at the end of time. He is above time. So the billions of years to God is not even a millisecond. Many in mankind are fools that have refused to believe in the One who created them. But many have and do. There is no mess. There are issues but those issues are caused by mankind. If God wanted to intervene He can and sometimes He has. However He has let mankind deal with the issue by themselves hopefully thru His laws ( that are defined to. avoid the mess ). Whether we do or we dont, He will judge not now but on the Day of Judgement which he has warned mankind of. Now my close friend Hans says "If God wanted to he could have easily feed those dying in Africa" and the likes. OK lets follow this line. So God intervenes to help the starving Africans. Wow,wait. If God can help them, God can also help me find a good job rather than sweeping the floor. God finds me a good job. Wow, if God can help me find a good job, God can also make me win the lottery. ......it will go on until there is NO REASON for God to have created us in the first place. in the Quran Allah (SWT) says "We created man and jinns to worship Him"(Q) while in another place it says "And Allah is not in need of ANY of His creation...He is free of all needs"(Q). Hope this make some sense. I am scientist and I also believe in God. Just take DNA....how complex it is....the blue print of life. No software, not even AI based models can come anywhere near the complexity of DNA.
@@albertlevert2988 A Creator of universes and realities, incompetent. Wow. Okay.
He has destroyed atheism. To believe that everything comes from nothing is the height of childish ignorance.
Where did your God come from ?
Your understanding on these matters is childlike
@@troyzieman7177 athiest love going into that logical fallacy of infinite regression. you can ask "where did that come from?" over and over, a logical error. the only solution to that error is an eternal being. eternal means no start. and no end. thefore it is an uncaused cause. its the cause that caused the universe.
Atheism doesn’t claim something came from nothing - to claim that is straw manning. Atheism is simply the lack of belief in a god.
Atheist have many different propositions for existence including the only truly honest one which is ‘we don’t know’!
There is no evidence that ‘nothingness’ ever existed or is even possible.
Just because you can’t conceive of any other way of coming into being than an intelligent agent does not mean that other possibilities do not exist - that is the fallacy of the argument from ignorance.
@@yes2835 No , you can't hold one position when it's convienant and refuse to answer when it's not .
Where did God come from ?
You don't like it because you can't weasel your way out of it
@@Captain101-x1o To say you don't believe something requires evidence.
If you don't know, that's agnosticism (not atheism). Atheism makes a positive truth claim that they have justifiable evidence there is no God.
thank god for this man
I just wish God would put in an appearance every 50 years or so, hold a press conference and put an end to all this.
🤣🤣🤣
You have a greater chance of Kamala Harris doing that!
Well if the bible is any indicator, that doesn't really work. People still turn to false gods, hedonism etc. mere days after seeing some crazy miracle.
One day on His time. GOD'S timing is perfect
thats why he doesnt exist
Is it me or does Dawkins look a tad uncomfortable listening to this.
I’m sure it doesn’t make him uncomfortable, it makes him embarrassed
Yes. Atheism is not logical. Agnosticism is somewhat, but not
@@JoyDivision88 He’s uncomfortable because he can’t believe the bullshit
@@kellysmyth2337 What an educated response. You obviously are far more intelligent that I am and I bow down to your superior intellect as I am just a stupid Christian.
@@Buckets1000 Wow hundreds of years of the greatest minds the world has known debating the existence of God, yet you have it sorted just like that. Amazing.
God creates , man discovers!!!
"God has not remained distant from our human suffering but has become part of it..."
✝️🙏🥰❤️ Thank You and Praise You Lord, words fail us God, help us to live lives worthy of Your love and sacrifice 🙏, in Jesus Name Amen
He has remained distant from human suffering. He's done absolutely nothing to help people in terrible suffering. People who desperately and genuinely reached out. People who suffered appalling abuse and the worst consequences. Genocide, murder, torture. Not just stories in history but people who faced things in real-time, seeing their children murdered, seeing their loved ones taken and more. The problem with the religious proposition is it's full of overstated goodness of God and how he loves us and yet society and history is bursting with examples of his indifference and cruelty. He is not a good God, or a loving God. There is no testimony to this only that people keep repeating that he is. Tragic, misguided, thoughtless followship.
how can Jesus be the Messiah when he wasn't from the tribe of Judah?
brillantly ridiculous no one will ever prove the existence of something that is not existing to start with
H'mm! Can you prove your assertion that God doesn't exist? Both attitudes can only be described as 'beliefs'! BTW I don't believe there's a God either!
@@rosssimpson6268 it isnt a belief it is logic + provable facts = no proof ever of a so-called god.....
@@rosssimpson6268yes, we can prove that God does not exist.
His absence in this world is proof.
The spiritual world, no one knows for sure if it even exists. All you can do is to believe, to be sure is to see and to demonstrate. That's why it is called belief.
Have yall Heard of miracles and Shroud of Turin?
@@LucasPatutas what about the easter bunny and Spider-Man....
Wow what a powerful testimony
Very intelligent and respected by John carson lennox
This guy didn't "DESTROY" anything other than rationality.
Nor did he put the post up with that title. How about telling us why he is wrong?
He's talking absolute nonsense!
Hear, hear. spot on.
Tell us your nonsense then?
@@briantyrrell5072
You heard it from him.
I love it. Wonderful speech honouring the King of Kings.
lol
The key to understanding God is through how meaning is realized
Quoting others who believe in a god is NOT evidence of a god. It's merely evidence of the quotes of others.
The absence of evidence to explain the creation of the universe is not evidence of the proof of a god. It's evidence of the absence of evidence.
Maybe you'll get invited to speak at Oxford. You sound like you know more than them.😂
Same applies to those who quote others who don't believe in God
it can be, especially if the people you are quoting believe in a God because they experienced a revealation from God
@@philosopher-2007A revelation from what?
I take it you use that standard when dealing with history. If you do your life's cumulative knowledge must be pretty slim. You see there is no scientific evidence for the landing of Julius Caesar on our shores.
Saying "I believe in God" does not "destroy" atheism, kids.
Lennox has no evidence for his beliefs. He is lying when he says his beliefs are based on evidence.
"Lennox has no evidence for his beliefs"
Yes he does - but 'evidence' is not proof. So, please tell me - WHAT kind of 'evidence' would it take to convince YOU of the existence of a Divine Power?
@@marvinc9994
"Yes he does"
Great!
Uhm.....what is it?
"WHAT kind of 'evidence' would it take to convince YOU of the existence of a Divine Power?"
Well, start with that Divine Power manifesting itself. That would be nice.
Why don't you have any evidence?
@@cygnusustus
"Uhm.....what is it?"
Spoken in the tone of a newly-minted undergraduate, propping up the student bar! The 'evidence' he adduces is in his presentation or - to put it in simpler terms for YOUR benefit - the REASONS for his BELIEF are. Why do you PERSIST in confusing _evidence_ with _proof_ ? It's both intellectually lazy and disingenuous. As for your somewhat evasive:
"start with that Divine Power manifesting itself"
In WHAT way? Give me some examples! Isn't Creation ENOUGH for little ol' you? Obviously not: I'll try and arrange an appearance on _The Graham Norton Show_ . Stay tuned! I suggest (even though I'm probably wasting my time) that you at least MEDITATE on one of Jesus' most powerful statements (you'll have to see PAST the antique language):
“The kingdom of God does NOT come with OBSERVATION nor will they say, ‘See here!’ or ‘See there!’ For indeed, the kingdom of God is WITHIN you”.
Belief will NOT get you across the road safely - but WITHOUT it, you'd never make that brief 'journey' in the first place. Your Life - your Choice!
@@marvinc9994
"Spoken in the tone of a newly-minted undergraduate..."
...to a five year old who has just made a finger painting.
"The 'evidence' he adduces is in his presentation'
Ok then, child. What was it?
"Why do you PERSIST in confusing evidence with proof ?"
Why do Christians keep lying about having evidence?
"Isn't Creation ENOUGH for little ol' you?"
Ok then, child. Where is your evidence that the universe was created?
Come on, buddy. Chop chop! Present your evidence?
So Atheists have the evidence then ?
This was a boring waste of my time. The only thing this guy dismantled was his poor belt buckle.
I believe I am Jesus.
There is nothing you can do to prove otherwise.
You can neither prove nor disprove the existence of God by logical argument or by observation of the world. You either believe or you don't.
Circumstantial evidence is evidence.
You cannot DISPROVE something that has never been proven. No god has ever been proven to date. Arguments are not evidence.
Yet the evidence is so all ever present and obvious in our own existence and the intricate grandeur and design of the observable world that we are inseparably woven into it can seem non-existence
That we exist is literally the only and greatest proof of God available and you are afloat in it and sustained by it with every breath you take
@@novakaya How do our existence prove your particular god? Could be Zeus, or the great spider of Nigerian creation myth, or the ancient mother of native American legends. How us existing and all the wonders whatever is the result of your specific god?
@@novakaya The existence of the universe is not evidence for a Creator. You are predisposed to believe in a Creator so that makes sense to you. There are physics hypotheses to explain the universe coming into existence from nothing. That doesn't mean those hypotheses are correct either. So far there is no way to look back before the moment of the big bang to find evidence for either a Creator or the physics hypotheses.
An omnipotent and omniscient God created man and the universe to worship Him? An omniscient and omnipotent God needs to be worshiped by inferior creatures?
It's like when I had a fish tank and I required fish to praise and worship me. Oh wait, I did not 🤣🤣🤣
This brings up a beautiful point. God created us but has no need of you or me. He has created us for His sake, we are made for Him and find our ultimate happiness in Him alone. He still gives us the choice to accept Him, and does not force Himself on us, but He is Goodness itself, and we will not be satisfied but by accepting His grace. Where someone gives, without expecting in return, there is love, and the gift He gives is ultimately Himself. In His goodness, He overflows, and shares Himself, through His Image, Jesus Christ.
Demands it or threatens
Believing in God is a personal perspective. People ask me, "how can there be God?". I say "How can there Not be God?" My life experience says, God exists. That's good enough for me. 😊
You british?
@@StyevenStyeven bruh
@@sakthivelponnusamy9329
What?
How can there not be pink elephants?
Garden fairies also exist because my next-door neighbor believe in them. Hence, it must be true
A brilliant man!
As a scientist or mathematician
Where is the destruction? And the fact that he is a mathematician and doesn't understand the difference between probability and possibility is embarrassing. How to destroy a god believer? Simple. Ask for proof. Because in this world those making the claim are beholden to prove it. Its called the scientific method for a reason.
Logic alone proves the need for a Creator. Its an infinite regression to say created things were created by other created things.. there must be an uncreated Creator. (Which we call God)
His belief does not make sense for anyone part of himself absolutely bulshit he has been fed by bourgeoisie
@@lukeheffernan854 An uncreated Creator is the 'Source' which has been termed as intelliggent energy, which is similar to A.I. so, can that be the same thing?
Well, I dont think so, since an AI cannot bring something into existence out of nothing. The most powerful stars cannot destroy or create energy, only convert it. AI also has a concrete history of being developed by human beings out of created materials. It did not always exist, and it can one day not exist, unlike the Lord our Creator, who must be eternal.
she didnt say A.I?
Conflating atheism with materialism is in my opinion so short-sighted that it beggars belief. 🤦♂
Well, we can be sure that it is correct, because look at how poor the Catholic church is, as just one example. ;-/ All religions adhere to their own tenets, don'tcha know, in this case, "Gather not up for yourselves, treasures on Earth". The hypocrisy is stifling.
What people are missing is not being aware Richard Dawkins was in the audience, what people are missing is him getting two minutes of mic time to "destroy" the mathematician's points, and religion in general.
Dawkins is great evolutionist/science but he isn't a philosopher and while you can claim all day that prime matter exists it doesn't - so there isn't anything you can do to undermine the Big Bang theory
Romans 1:22
“Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,”
Pastor MAN has DESTROYED Atheism by putting words in ALL CAPS
In logic, from falsehood anything follows. That's what enables this man to go on and on, and on...
Sure. And a guy who's that poor at logic was invited to and respectfully received at Oxford. Seriously?
@@mikeborden-h7w Indeed. It's called group think.
What is the falsehood?
@@pelimcc I listed a dozen, no wait, two dozen logical fallacies, non-arguments, manipulations etc. in the main thread.
That is why I love Science because it reveals to me the wondrous power of my Creator.
What about the creator(s) of hindus, eskimos, sioux-es, etc?
Delusional
Excellent ! Thanks for sharing🔝
Atheism makes claims, only a request for evidence. As yet, none has been sufficient.
Evidence is the only reliable witness. Everything else are wishes, hopes and fairytales
@@Steve52344 True. The evidence totally supports why I can (and do) have a personal relationship with God.
@@John315coco MAN, did you read that comment incorrectly. And I think he meant to write 'no claims', because otherwise, that sentence and statement makes no logical sense.
What EVIDENCE are you referring to? Even the bible says that it is faith alone. There IS NO evidence.
Modern science did not spring from Judeo-Christian sources. As recently as the 16th -17th century, in Judeo-Christian Europe, they argued about whether a woman has a soul.
Newton believed in witchcraft and alchemy, so not every belief held by a scientist is "science". The question is: can you show objective, testable evidence that supports your claims. Of course this video does not even contain a trace of such evidence.
I am incapable of believing in something for which there is no evidence. Faith is not fact. The more science has revealed, the greater the certainty that we are a product of the infinite diversity of a universe we will never fully comprehend. The nature and source of the elements of which we are made are known to us. The aeons of time it took for the process of life to begin and to develop are understood. Given all that we know exists and our tiny part in it, I'm inclined to believe that human existence is not a miracle but rather an inevitability. Life in all its diversity arose from a single source on this planet, and we, for all our cleverness, are just one more in a passing parade of lifeforms to have inhabited this world only to disappear in time. Our turn will come in time, be that long or short, and all our notions of an all-knowing God will pass away with us. Only human conceit could deny the fact that the universe does not care about us or our concerns. Life is a privilege, brief, and full of trouble and joy, but nothing supports the notion that it can ever be eternal.
"Only human conceit..."
Which lies behind much atheistic belief, surely? It always amuses me when 'scientifically-minded' individuals start babbling on about the Universe (ie the miniscule amount they DO know about it) and the Table of Elements etc etc _ad nauseam_ as though THEY were the only ones to have received an education in Physics, Chemistry, and Mathematics - the rest of us, presumably, believing (inter alia) that the World is a flat disc resting on the backs of four elephants, and that Santa Claus (like Manmade Global Warming) is real. Not so, I fear!
"I am incapable of believing in something for which there is no evidence."
Really? What a colourless existence you must lead! So, if I tell you that I was madly in love with a girl in my class at the age of nine (as I was), you would be INCAPABLE of believing me UNLESS I proffered some 'evidence' (what kind, pray?), and therefore be compelled to think of me as a liar or 'delusional'? Nonsense! And you can multiply this trivial example - regarding VALID PERSONAL experience - an infinite number of times. I'm making a SERIOUS point here: how many things do YOU 'believe', WITHOUT having seen ANY compellng evidence to _support_ that belief? WHY do you CHOOSE to believe SOME things - but not others? What is it that allows you to cross a dangerously busy road if not Faith - as opposed to concrete (fore-)Knowledge - that you'll make it safely to the other side? In fact, the unspoken belief that 'one day' EVERYTHING will be explicable in _specifically_ 'scientific' terms is _itself_ distinctly UNSCIENTIFIC - in the sense that such a conviction is _essentially_ no more than an Act of Faith; albeit one no more _irrational_ than belief in Divine Intelligence - for which the Wonders of the Universe and its workings provide at least SOME slight evidence, you'll agree, just as the wonders of medieval cathedral architecture afford SOME evidence of an INTELLIGENCE behind it, SOMETHING beyond the 'accidental' assembly of molecules, as statistically 'inevitable' as all those proverbial monkeys' typing out the works of Shakespeare!
The bible says EXACTLY what you said, actually, that is it by faith that you believe. And at the rate we are going, that time is going to be very short. Assuming this happens from time to time, that sentient technologically capable life arises, that is the very number I feel they have INFINITELY overestimated in the Drake equation. They picked 10k years or so, IIRC. Seeing what is happening now, with our environment, I expect 1,000 (staying technically capable) is probably a definite stretch.
Atheism: The equivalent of a print shop accident that sends everything into a tornado of spinning letters that land in perfect harmony that is The Encyclopedia Brittanica!! 🤣
Dear Brian, Romans 1 verse 20 God says in His Word the Bible, “for since the creation of the world God's invisible qualities, his eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that all people are without excuse.”
Atheists prefer to believe in the absurd and it appears they are not willing to consider anything different, like for instance how the Sun is capable of thinking that it needs to be the exact size, the perfect distance from Earth, the correct heat so that it would be able to sustain life and has continued to burn faithfully. The Sun figured that all out. We could also talk about the moon or how the Planets which have deferent Characteristics could have come from a big explosion. Out of that explosion when everything settled everything became orderly and the Planets became round. Trees knew that they had to come into existence before life could come because they knew that we needed Oxygen. Why is it that man would rather believe something could come from nothing and yet those things had to think it through so that everything could be? Yes, I know that now they are starting to say that maybe everything was here already, and it was not a Big Bang. My problem with that is not a man in this World has ever seen something that was Created outside of Nature. All things that man has made took a mind to make, nothing has come to be unless a man designed it or created it. Yet Atheist wish to believe that the Universe Created itself when they have not a stitch of Evidence to prove it.
No he doesn’t prove anything. He just believes in his imaginary friend in the sky. He believes because he wants to. He believes without any proof whatsoever. What sort of scientist is he?
1. The Big bang was a theory made by a priest.
2. Just as you ask us "Who created god?" We ask "Who created the Big bang?" Both have no answer and are as right as wrong.
Sot on!
A puddle wakes up one morning and thinks: 'This is an interesting world I find myself in - an interesting hole I find myself in - fits me rather neatly, doesn't it? In fact it fits me staggeringly well, must have been made [by God?] to have me in it!' (Douglas Adams}
Now, Adams is a wise man.
even though its a bad joke that nobody takes seriously, it makes 1000% more sense than saying it popped into existense out of nothing and somehow rearranged itself and then saying the puddle also popped into existense, with consciousness and all those things that inevitably require an intelligent mind
even though its a bad joke that nobody takes seriously, it actually makes sense, rather than saying things popped into existense out of nothing and rearranged themselves (which we never observed happening), all leads to intelligent mind