Dawkins to Jordan at the dinner table: Can you please pass me the salt? Jordan answers: "Ah, you see, when you ask me if I can pass the salt, it’s deceptively simple, but it opens up a profound question. Because, on the surface, yes, I can pass the salt. But that’s the mundane layer. Beneath it, there's a much older, more mythological narrative at play." "To pass the salt is to participate in a shared ritual, a gesture of communion and trust. But in a way, it’s also about confronting and taming something primal-let’s say, a dragon. And why a dragon? Because a dragon, in myth, represents chaos, the unknown, a threat to order. When we engage in these simple acts-like passing salt-we’re enacting a kind of symbolic victory over that chaos. In medieval iconography, knights slay dragons not just as a feat of strength but as a victory of civilization over the wilderness, of meaning over the void." "Salt itself is a symbol with dual aspects: preservation and decay. It can ward off rot but, in excess, it can corrode. To handle it, to pass it, is to confront that paradox head-on, a bit like facing the dragon. It’s like looking into the unknown and saying, 'I am willing to take on this responsibility, to bring order to the chaos around me.' In a small way, each act like this is a slaying of that dragon, a small victory for civilization and meaning over the forces that threaten to break them down." Passes the salt with a solemn look, as though entrusting you with a quest. Hands over salt shaker.
😂 oh my gosh, did you just write this?! This is pretty ingenious, and it made me smile and laugh. You’ve made me miss writing and being creative like this. I will be praying for you and I hope that you believe in Jesus! If you don’t, maybe the end times prophecies will compel you to pray and ask God to show you the truth. Because the world is looking very much like the way the Bible said it would in the last days. I say all of this with love, honestly I do and I hope that you’re having a wonderful day and I will pray for you right now! (I’m also always willing to respectfully discuss/debate this subject if that’s something you would be interested in!)
Peterson is not a religious scholar, and his admission is just him being honest. I wish he was better versed then he is in biblical debate topics so he had confidence in going head to head with Dawkins on his ridiculous questions and statements... Personally I would destroy Dawkins and people like him with factual scientific truths fired right back at them when they try and be smug. Really Simple... Dawkins: Do you believe in virgin birth?? Me: yes I do... And thanks to modern science, namely IVF, humans are playing God and doing what only God could do previously. I also believe in reconstruction surgeries using the rib and associated bodily material, namely stem cells, that are now being used in modern medicine practices to regrow all parts of the human body FROM A RIB BONE, which by the way regenerates itself if it is removed surgically. So I believe the creation story that is detailed in Genesis more so then I do any current "theory" detailed in modern "science" text books.
@@PhysicsGuy1000 with "hard facts"... Like what?? Try me... Put forward any hard facts that you want me to reply to and I will happily oblige your curiosity as to what the debate would look like, and i am pretty confident that I will have you covered, using the scientific method of course (namely observable, repeatable, measurable experiments, and Occam's razor) for all my positions. I'm happy to respond to: The Bible in general. the bible vs science. Although this will require us defining what "science", "the scientific method", & "religious science or science as a religion" are in order to discuss who has taken the scientific position, and who is shouting religious dogma. (Trust me, the religious dogma is what Dawkins et al (Brian Cox, Neil de gras Tyson, Bill Nye, etc) use all the time). Creation of the universe, big bang theory vs intelligently designed creation according to Genesis. And how big bang theory is taken from the Genesis account and modified. Shape of the universe, being either the theoretical, big-bang, helio-centric, globe-earth, Darwinian-evolutionary model, vs other models of the universe, namely Genesis creation, and or simulation theory, and or multiverse theory, including the theory of relativity, etc, models. Darwinian Evolution vs biblical creation. Including real evolution and corruption, the great flood reset, population of the earth from Adam and Eve, and then from Noah and his descendants. Stating scientific observations and mathematical possibilities and probabilities for both in order to compare and discuss the chance of each possibility being actually true and correct. Evolution: modern science vs the bible: - Which side keeps changing their theories / opinions / lies, and which side has been consistent since it was written down the first time? - From rocks to all life on earth. - random mutation vs intelligent design. - from "1x pair of Adam & Eve couples" to today's populations for all animal species in existence today. - new species requirements for evolution to exist and then to procreate and replicate, and dominate, or at least survive and differentiate. eg from a random Adam (male) and a random Eve (female) mutation, at the same time in history, within 1-5km of each other, both mutations being fertile, and then successfully mateing to produce viable male and female offspring to then continue the new species genetic code, for each and every species on earth, including all the in between species that no longer exist, the time it takes for 1x random mutation, the probably of having 2x random mutations side by side in terms of time in history and location geographically, and both being of opposite breedable sex and gender, etc, basically equals Darwinian Evolution is mathematically impossible, as the time frames are to big for evolution to occur, but also at the same time, the time frames are to small for evolution to occur, it's a double whammy. - reverse engineering evolution, specifically being the reverse engineering of the human eye. Let's try to prove evolution to be true and correct by providing a reverse engineering approach of the human eye. I need you to nominate which part of the eye you want to remove from the evolutionary process last, being reverse chronological order, first. With the options being: the eye sockets, the eye lids, the eye lashes, the eye brows, the optic nerve, the brain, the eye muscles, the eye tendons, the tear ducts, the tears, the veins arteries and capillaries, the blood, the red cells, the white cells, the plasma, the iron and the oxygen, the water and the glucose, the electrolytes, and the waste, or the eye ball itself?? Then within the eyeball, we have the the actual eyeball tissue, the iris (including melanin), the pupil, the cornea, the lens, and the retina (including rods and cones), etc. This is of course noting that the human eye can only see about 0.0035% of the electromagnetic spectrum, being the part we call visible light, which lies between the infra-red & ultra-violet wave lengths. - reverse engineering evolution, being the reverse engineering of any complex life form, eg a human being, or any mammal, any aquatic mammal, any bird, any insect, any fish, any other animal species (you can choose) and also any flowering plant, and any other plant (you can choose). The history of the current "scientific" theories that are being taught in modern education systems world wide, and why they are based on an intentional lie(s), what the reason(s) for the lie(s) are, how they orchestrated these lies. The great hoaxes of space travel, NASA, the moon missions, the ISS, red bull space jump, etc. What this mis-information means in the world today? Please don't run and hide behind the internet, please make the effort to stand and fight and try to defend your position and your comment you made about Dawkins having any chance against a brain like mine, as I believe my IQ is far superior to his in pretty much every aspect of which IQ is measured.
@@PhysicsGuy1000 Can you please explain the physics of the moon to me, as I am having trouble understanding the actual physics of how the moon travels and also the effects of the moon's gravity on earth. For this physics lesson, can you please just focus on the axial rotation of the moon, and the orbital path of the moonz and explain the physics of the moon's movements and how this trajectory is possible and maintainable for 1000s of observable years in human history. Please disregard the theoretical physics that claim the movement of the solar system as a whole throughout the Milky way galaxy, and movement of the Milky way galaxy as a whole through the universe for this discussion. Also with regards to the moon, can you please explain how the earth's tides are affected by the moon's gravity given that: - gravity of earth is 9.80m.s^2, - gravity of moon is 1.62m.s^2, - diameter of earth is 12,800km, - diameter of moon is 3,500km, - distance of moon from earth is 384,400km, - distance of moon's centre of gravity to the surface of earth's water bodies is 386,150km, - distance of earth's centre of gravity to the surface of earth's water bodies is 6,400km, - maximum acceleration / deceleration of an OTIS lift car is 0.5-1.0m.s^2 which is clearly observable to all peoples who have ever ridden a high-rise lift car. Also please explain how come we as humans being 75% water, can not perceive the moon's gravity or the earth's gravity seeing that these accelerative forces are far superior to the accelerative forces exerted on a human body when riding a lift car, which is easily perceived by the human body?? My understanding of the physics is that the moon should be spinning on it's axis at a far greater rate then it is, in order to continue on its orbital path around the earth. The earth rotates once every 24 hours, and it rotates 365 times per single complete orbit, giving a ratio of 365:1. While the moon rotates once every ~28 days, and it rotates only 1 time per single complete orbit, giving it a ratio of 1:1. To make this imagery simple, I will refer to baseball pitches, namely the curve ball, and the knuckle ball. With the earth and all celestial bodies acting according to the physics of a curve ball, while the moon's physics is that of a knuckle ball... So why doesn't the moon act according to the physics of its supposed observable movements??
@@firstlast9478 you wouldn't be able to destroy anyone if you try to argue in favor of fairy tales against reality. And you clearly can't even grasp the concept of scale.
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@@leebode4643 Well he is dealing with Dawkins who IMHO is a total fool, he has some intelligence but he is a liar and he is contradictory and petty, rude and cruel.
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How does Dawkins explain the birth of time, space and matter coming into existence at the same time? Its kind of an odd thing to think about the birth of time though I must admit. Must be some amazing power to create such a thing as blue whales, stars, humans and DNA, amazing world isnt it.
@@planes3333 Certainly. Some amazing power. The kind of power that doesn't give a damn about your sex life, about prayers, about your "sins", or about absurd "divine" theories tiny humans have
Do what you want its freedom of speech. We see buses driving around that say “ there is probably no God so why not enjoy your life” ……dont be silenced by the haters and the new atheists in their new religion. Remember atheism was the reason for the gulags, the great leap forward and the killing fields. Nietzsche and Dostoevsky both predicted the coming butchery from Stalin, Pot and Mao and the death toll reached from 70-100 million dead. That's 100,000,000 people massacred from three regimes and three men. Remember with “God is Dead” you get bloodshed. The Salem witch trials killed 7 the atheist regimes of the 20th century killed 70 million. Also Alexander Solzenitzyn wrote about the insane evil massacres in his book the “Gulag Archipelago” which is now required reading in Russia and by the way it basically brought down the communist/atheistic soviet union. Atheists many of whom are brilliant and than there are those who have not done the job of atheism and that is the seeking of all knowledge about all claims of this universe beginning. Some atheists are as bad as our Fred Phelps and Kenneth Copeland's. Even though we have our Ravi Zacharias's and Stephen Meyers and John Lennox. keep preaching man Jesus commanded it but be wise, dont throw your pearls to pigs.. Also how can an atheist have an opinion on what good or bad is, is that not just a matter of opinion? From where do they derive their actual morals and values from? Society? well I would hate to be a jew during the German final solution during that time in that warped society, oh and your not like that are you? Wait and see what you go along with, or are you already pro abortion.
As a retired prosecutor, i would say, "Motion to strike everything he just said in the last 5 minutes for failure to respond to a simple yes, no question." Perfect example of the phrase, "if you can't dazzle them with your brilliance, baffle them with bullshit."
I was thinking exactly that while watching this 😂 im actually glad I don’t have to see it because I quite like Peterson, but Hitchens would destroy him.
Hitchens spent his who life using his voice to curse God and Jesus! interesting that he acquired throat cancer and died. I guess God shut him right up. Interesting thing is that his brother converted and became a christian and he is doing great. Though I must confess smoking didnt help poor Christopher Hitchens esophagus either. Hopefully Hitchens repented in his last breaths. Hopefully he did not end up like Darwin, Lavey, Crowley and Voltaire. Jesus is KING
@@planes3333 he pointed out the irony of that himself while simultaneously saying it was obviously just a coincidence. Which is exactly what it is. There is no God and no genuinely intelligent person believes there is. Believing in something with absolutely no proof is the mark of an idiot
@@planes3333 Interesting that your God prioritizes taking out Hitchens over Putin. You should be ashamed of yourself. Provide an argument or do the thing you claimed your insecure God personally did.
@@nofairytales5604 Hmmm interesting. Have you ever thought about studying the things he studies and then refuting him and perhaps taking the spotlight away from him? You could be super rich and famous like he is, just disprove what he is saying.
@@jacksonelmore622711/29/2024 - The sad reality is that millions of people believe the BS that men like Peterson spew. If I heard him correctly, Peterson actually answered “I don’t know” when asked whether Jesus had a father? Of course, that answer reveals that Peterson believes that a woman is capable of bearing a child without having intercourse with a man. If, as the Christians believe, Jesus was God‘s begotten son, that means God had intercourse with Mary, which means that got debauched Mary, who was engaged to Mary Joseph. How sick is that?
I think Petersen was being honest, not deceptive. Dawkins was asking the question from one perspective on reality, one that minimizes the importance of story and myth to human evolution, and Petersen was trying to answer it from his understanding of the world as a place in which the Mystery expresses itself through story and myth. So his answer of "I don't know" is perfectly appropriate, given the above.
@@bolence85 Your question is flawed, it’s a loaded question fallacy because you’re already assuming the person is gay. The real question here is how the hell does the question asked in the video relate in any shape or form to your loaded question? There are no assumptions in the question asked in the video, so it’s not a loaded question and can be answered with yes, no, or I don’t know, instead Peterson tried to make the matter much deeper than simply saying ‘I do not know’ which really makes me doubt if he really doesn’t know the answer or he is simply not being honest because he has a lot of right wing audience that are proudly religious that he is not trying to upset
Listen to the voices, the way people speak betrays how they feel. One voice is high and agitated and squeaky. The other voices low calm and slow. It's a very clear message about how people are confident and stable.
@@arunnaik3375 He's no doubt very bright and well-read. But the comparison is there to hear. Many other bright thinkers speak so fast (it's hard to control if you're a fast thinker) but communication and clarity come from paced speech and groundedness.
@@briankehew579Ah! yes, you make a cogent observation. Jordan Peterson stands as a bright luminary within the defined sphere of his chosen discipline, psychology-a mind acute, reflective, and adept at distilling the labyrinthine patterns of human thought into forms palatable to the earnest seeker. Yet brightness, dazzling as it may be, is no errant flash but rather a carefully tended flame, its brilliance nurtured atop a tower painstakingly built-brick by brick-through the labor of study, observation, and immersion in the broad currents of human knowledge. On the matter of communication, the art of pause, the deliberate pacing of speech, tempers this tempest into a steady breeze, carrying clarity and connection in its measured flow. For it is in the spaces between words where meaning breathes, and in the rhythm of expression that understanding roots itself. Swiftness may dazzle, but pacing dignifies and deepens the exchange. However, when Peterson steps beyond the walls of his well-fortified discipline and into the expansive territories of religion, his footing falters. The beacon of his intellect, while commendable, reveals gaps in its foundation, unable to fully illuminate the vast landscapes of history, theology, metaphysics, and the lived depths of spiritual tradition. Religion, a domain woven with threads of eternity and mortality, requires an erudition and humility that surpass the lens of psychological archetypes. Here, Peterson moves not as a seasoned voyager but as a novice, his insights engaging yet confined by a circumscribed understanding. That he-or indeed many who walk similar paths-might overlook the antiquity of motifs such as the *virgin birth* or the *resurrection* speaks volumes of their limitations. These themes, far from being confined to a single narrative or faith, echo through the mythologies of Egypt, Greece, Rome, India, China, and beyond. They are archetypes of the human spirit, symbols as old as wonder itself, marking the perennial attempt to touch the divine. To neglect this universality is to misstep, to reduce the timeless to the merely topical.
@@briankehew579 No doubt, Jordan Peterson is a bright luminary within the defined sphere of his chosen discipline, psychology-a mind acute, reflective, and adept at distilling the labyrinthine patterns of human thought into forms palatable to the earnest seeker. Yet brightness, dazzling as it may be, is no errant flash but rather a carefully tended flame, its brilliance nurtured atop a tower painstakingly built-brick by brick-through the labor of study, observation, and immersion in the broad currents of human knowledge. On the matter of communication, I align with your view: many a swift thinker scatters their insights like a gale tossing leaves, heedless of whether the audience can gather them. The art of pause, the deliberate pacing of speech, tempers this tempest into a steady breeze, carrying clarity and connection in its measured flow. For it is in the spaces between words where meaning breathes, and in the rhythm of expression that understanding roots itself. Swiftness may dazzle, but pacing dignifies and deepens the exchange. However, when Peterson steps beyond the walls of his well-fortified discipline and into the expansive territories of religion, his footing falters. The beacon of his intellect, while commendable, reveals gaps in its foundation, unable to fully illuminate the vast landscapes of history, theology, metaphysics, and the lived depths of spiritual tradition. Religion, a domain woven with threads of eternity and mortality, requires an erudition and humility that surpass the lens of psychological archetypes. Here, Peterson moves not as a seasoned voyager but as a novice, his insights engaging yet confined by a circumscribed understanding. That he-or indeed many who walk similar paths-might overlook the antiquity of motifs such as the *virgin birth* or the *resurrection* speaks volumes of their limitations. These themes, far from being confined to a single narrative or faith, echo through the mythologies of Egypt, Greece, Rome, India, China, and beyond. They are archetypes of the human spirit, symbols as old as wonder itself, marking the perennial attempt to touch the divine. To neglect this universality is to misstep, to reduce the timeless to the merely topical. Let such bright thinkers, then, ground their brilliance in a wider understanding, for even the most luminous tower benefits from broader horizons.
@@briankehew579 Agreed. But Peterson often draws on simplified interpretations of religious texts and concepts, sometimes relying on secondary sources or popularized versions rather than engaging deeply with primary sources and academic scholarship. His analysis tends to concentrate heavily on specific texts like the Bible, particularly the Old Testament, while neglecting the nuances and diversity within Christianity and other major religious traditions. He sometimes selectively utilizes religious texts and interpretations to support his own pre-existing views, potentially leading to biased or incomplete understandings. This critique does not necessarily invalidate Peterson's overall message or his insights into human psychology and culture. However, a more nuanced understanding of world religions is crucial for a deeper and more accurate engagement with the complex issues he addresses.
What do you mean by “do”? And what do you mean by “you”? And what do you mean by “believe” And what do you mean by “in”? And what do you mean by “Jesus”? And what do you mean by your question mark?
To me it seems more "I do not believe it happened, but saying so would undermine my appeal to a large portion of my paying fan base, so I must deflect at all costs".
Feynman said that if you understand something well enough to explain it simply e.g. to schoolchildren, then you truly understand the subject. This makes Peterson an expert in nothing.
When I was studying Electrical engineering my instructor said " An expert is someone who knows more and more about less and less until he knows absolutely everything about nothing." Maybe he'd met Peterson?
This reminds me of one of my favourite quotes from the physicist Paul Dirac... "The aim of science is to make difficult things understandable in a simpler way; the aim of poetry is to state simple things in an incomprehensible way. The two are incompatible."
I find Jordan to be utterly exhausting. He simply cannot answer a simple question directly. "I don’t know how to mediate the fact value dichotomy in that case" what a bullshit artist .
I find it harder and harder to listen to his intentional rambling. I used to have SOME respect for him but not so much anymore. I just see him as mostly dishonest intellectually.
If he replies in the affirnative he looks like a religious nut, and serious people will dismiss him. If he responds in the negative he looses his hyper religious audience members patronage
Peterson rarely replies to the questions. Rather, he diverts, under the guise of making a related point, but, as virtually everyone who feels bludgeoned by his word salads, tedium sets in long before the question is actually addressed or answered.
Peterson is the only person who could be asked the most relevant, on topic question and still spend more time arguing it's invalidity rather than actually answering the question
You're projecting the fact that Dawkins is the pseudointellectual to Peterson and you're further embarrassing yourself by hilariously coping and seething. You're malding, you're seething you're graying and coping.
Peterson is a post modernist. In that I mean he talks in riddles that don’t always make sense. Being obfuscatious and trying to sound profound by confusing the lay man person. Much of his discussion or answers are vacuous while using superfluous language. He doesn’t want to offend his religious followers and dances around the issue without actually giving a meaningful answer. Einstein said genius is the ability of saying something complex in a simple way. Peterson does quite the opposite. He sounds like Foucault who himself was full of crap yet revered by his followers.
@@cvdavis Nope, you actually can't sound more than 100% ridiculous, Dawkins is literally a hypocrite who actually in fact delusionally believes that he got from Christianity "virtually nothing" while he definitely didn't take nothing from it and most definitely didn't take virtually nothing from it either since still his fundamental morality stems from Christianity he likes it or not and usually he argues very laughably and very pendatically about it (for example: *"In Victorian era Christianity we didn't work in the Sabbath now we do."* because he still knows the fact and everyone truthfully knows the fact he would be quintessentially identyless and morally empty with the very fundamental Christian morals. Like it or not, your really ridiculous nonsense deconstruvism mania and early era degeneracy is literally nothing but still you massive psychological complex you have for Christ and a product of a very bygone era. Christianity in fact got STRONGER than ever. You're are deeply delusional and spiritually moronic and it shows in fact from your fanciful nonsensical ramblings that definitely characterize your psychotic wird salads of words you toss around and don't understand that you are little in the mimd yet and you don't have it with the logic, you have black midnights. You have confused your own thighs in the fanciful word salads you toss around. I will advise you to pay attention to the "C" letter which stands for Christ you have for a photo on your profile instead of writing me your tirade of the skull you just wrote me. Take good care of it, as you're still a child yet overemotionally sensitive and seeking your mother, this is actually you breaking in melancholic tears from your little heart for need of a cuddle and and athe hug of the mother you definitely lacked and never got. At the eternal darkness it will be in need for you but that I haven't told it is that this will not be there. Ante and good masonic ceremonies for you children to have. hint: you're not faithless, you simply believe in yourself you believe, meaning, in nothing, to one speck of sand and this is, dear, is called stupidity.
As a Christian yes obviously, Jesus died (for our sins), thus why no one but Christ is without sin, you’re not saying anything that is not already known even the Bible speaks of what you wrote “For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh: that the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit. For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace. Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be. So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.” Romans 8:3-8
The reason JP goes on and on and around the question is because it’s simple… the answer for him is “I want to believe it is true”… and he likely hears himself saying that answer and knows that immediately ends debate… so instead, he does his best to take 1000 detours. Really appreciated them both for holding him accountable to that. I rarely see it done that well!
Jordan B Peterson. Raised in northern Alberta. Has flown a hammerhead roll in a carbon fiber stunt plane, built a ceremonial brighouse on the top of his home after being invited to by the Canadian first nations people. He has been a dishwasher, gas jockey, bartender, short order cook, bee-keeper, oil derrick re-tipper, plywood mill labourer, and railway line worker. He has taught mythology to lawyers, doctors and business people, consulted for the UN secretary general panel for sustainable development. Dr Peterson has helped his clients to manage depression, obsessive compulsive, anxiety and schizophrenia. Served as an adviser to senior partners in major Canadian law firms. He has identified thousands of entrepreneurs in sixty different countries. He has lectured extensively in europe and north america. He has published more than 100 scientific papers. He is an expert in communism and nazismn. He was a Harvard professor and was nominated for the Levenson teaching prize. His tenure at university of Toronto saw him being considered as one of three truly life changing professors. He is a quora most viewed writer. Dr Peterson has given hope to many who were lost, he has millions of people who attend his lectures on biblical, mythological and religious and psychological themes. He is a beacon for free speech and free expression. His teaching and books were one variable among many that helped me to learn about Nitchzes, Dostoyevsky and Solzhenitsyn. He has brought hope and blessings to millions I feel compassion for all of you that hate him, he is one of the most intelligent people that are on earth. He has dedicated his life to helping people and he is hated.
He made a connection with young men that felt like they were being pushed out of every last relevant conversation in the social environment. He taught many young men how to stand up for themselves and that being proud and strong isn't wrong. This came at a time when we were being told we were the great evil of the world. He just happened to say relevant things at the right time. He had said them for years before, but it wasn't the issue it is now. His religious stances aren't as popular, he is too wish washy for most people of the faith, yet too adherent for the atheist community.
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@@ryngrd1 "Atheism is immorality" is a ludicrous statement. Atheists base their morals on what they truly feel is right and wrong. Religious people base their morals on the fear of punishment. Religious people are immoral.
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Do what you want its freedom of speech. We see buses driving around that say “ there is probably no God so why not enjoy your life” ……dont be silenced by the haters and the new atheists in their new religion. Remember atheism was the reason for the gulags, the great leap forward and the killing fields. Nietzsche and Dostoevsky both predicted the coming butchery from Stalin, Pot and Mao and the death toll reached from 70-100 million dead. That's 100,000,000 people massacred from three regimes and three men. Remember with “God is Dead” you get bloodshed. The Salem witch trials killed 7 the atheist regimes of the 20th century killed 70 million. Also Alexander Solzenitzyn wrote about the insane evil massacres in his book the “Gulag Archipelago” which is now required reading in Russia and by the way it basically brought down the communist/atheistic soviet union. Atheists many of whom are brilliant and than there are those who have not done the job of atheism and that is the seeking of all knowledge about all claims of this universe beginning. Some atheists are as bad as our Fred Phelps and Kenneth Copeland's. Even though we have our Ravi Zacharias's and Stephen Meyers and John Lennox. keep preaching man Jesus commanded it but be wise, dont throw your pearls to pigs.. Also how can an atheist have an opinion on what good or bad is, is that not just a matter of opinion? From where do they derive their actual morals and values from? Society? well I would hate to be a jew during the German final solution during that time in that warped society, oh and your not like that are you? Wait and see what you go along with, or are you already pro abortion.
Hey Jordan: yelling doesn't make your weak and sometimes absurd arguments any better. If you wanna believe in magic with zero supporting evidence, please do so quietly. As the saying goes, it's better to keep quiet and let people wonder if you're brilliant than to speak up and remove all doubt.
@@stormriderkaos Do what you want its freedom of speech. We see buses driving around that say “ there is probably no God so why not enjoy your life” ……dont be silenced by the haters and the new atheists in their new religion. Remember atheism was the reason for the gulags, the great leap forward and the killing fields. Nietzsche and Dostoevsky both predicted the coming butchery from Stalin, Pot and Mao and the death toll reached from 70-100 million dead. That's 100,000,000 people massacred from three regimes and three men. Remember with “God is Dead” you get bloodshed. The Salem witch trials killed 7 the atheist regimes of the 20th century killed 70 million. Also Alexander Solzenitzyn wrote about the insane evil massacres in his book the “Gulag Archipelago” which is now required reading in Russia and by the way it basically brought down the communist/atheistic soviet union. Atheists many of whom are brilliant and than there are those who have not done the job of atheism and that is the seeking of all knowledge about all claims of this universe beginning. Some atheists are as bad as our Fred Phelps and Kenneth Copeland's. Even though we have our Ravi Zacharias's and Stephen Meyers and John Lennox. keep preaching man Jesus commanded it but be wise, dont throw your pearls to pigs.. Also how can an atheist have an opinion on what good or bad is, is that not just a matter of opinion? From where do they derive their actual morals and values from? Society? well I would hate to be a jew during the German final solution during that time in that warped society, oh and your not like that are you? Wait and see what you go along with, or are you already pro abortion.
@@jacobskovolsen9099 it’s not time wasting. Richard is a grifter making gains from this. You’re an idiot if you think this is beneath him. Also, Peterson is way smarter than you.
The way each of the three sits, moves and carries themselves in the conversation is very revealing. One is agitated and defensive, to the point of convulsion and shouting. The others are calm and in control of themselves and the actual discussion.
Jordan B Peterson. Raised in northern Alberta. Has flown a hammerhead roll in a carbon fiber stunt plane, built a ceremonial brighouse on the top of his home after being invited to by the Canadian first nations people. He has been a dishwasher, gas jockey, bartender, short order cook, bee-keeper, oil derrick re-tipper, plywood mill labourer, and railway line worker. He has taught mythology to lawyers, doctors and business people, consulted for the UN secretary general panel for sustainable development. Dr Peterson has helped his clients to manage depression, obsessive compulsive, anxiety and schizophrenia. Served as an adviser to senior partners in major Canadian law firms. He has identified thousands of entrepreneurs in sixty different countries. He has lectured extensively in europe and north america. He has published more than 100 scientific papers. He is an expert in communism and nazismn. He was a Harvard professor and was nominated for the Levenson teaching prize. His tenure at university of Toronto saw him being considered as one of three truly life changing professors. He is a quora most viewed writer. Dr Peterson has given hope to many who were lost, he has millions of people who attend his lectures on biblical, mythological and religious and psychological themes. He is a beacon for free speech and free expression. His teaching and books were one variable among many that helped me to learn about Nietzsche's, Dostoevsky and Solzhenitsyn. He has brought hope and blessings to millions I feel compassion for all of you that hate him, he is one of the most intelligent people that are on earth. He has dedicated his life to helping people and he is hated.
Peterson: ""I can't account for what the fundamental reality and significance of the notion of resurrection is - my knowledge ends." Peterson Translator : "I want to believe resurrection is true but I know that it cannot possibly be and my ego and reputation will be ruined if I admit this"
@@yoshkebenstadapandora1181 good statement or question. In terms of Christianity and the resurrection and where Peterson’s knowledge ends… that’s where his faith is supposed to kick in… which he showed none of today.
Well we all know what Peterson believes in. He believes in having nice things for Jordan Peterson. So he will sell snake oil to those who are willing to buy. His love for fancy suits is so revealing.
Jordan has zero responsibility to cater to people with short attention to short attention spans and a desire for yes no answers. Only idiots think in black and white.
Do what you want its freedom of speech. We see buses driving around that say “ there is probably no God so why not enjoy your life” ……dont be silenced by the haters and the new atheists in their new religion. Remember atheism was the reason for the gulags, the great leap forward and the killing fields. Nietzsche and Dostoevsky both predicted the coming butchery from Stalin, Pot and Mao and the death toll reached from 70-100 million dead. That's 100,000,000 people massacred from three regimes and three men. Remember with “God is Dead” you get bloodshed. The Salem witch trials killed 7 the atheist regimes of the 20th century killed 70 million. Also Alexander Solzenitzyn wrote about the insane evil massacres in his book the “Gulag Archipelago” which is now required reading in Russia and by the way it basically brought down the communist/atheistic soviet union. Atheists many of whom are brilliant and than there are those who have not done the job of atheism and that is the seeking of all knowledge about all claims of this universe beginning. Some atheists are as bad as our Fred Phelps and Kenneth Copeland's. Even though we have our Ravi Zacharias's and Stephen Meyers and John Lennox. keep preaching man Jesus commanded it but be wise, dont throw your pearls to pigs.. Also how can an atheist have an opinion on what good or bad is, is that not just a matter of opinion? From where do they derive their actual morals and values from? Society? well I would hate to be a jew during the German final solution during that time in that warped society, oh and your not like that are you? Wait and see what you go along with, or are you already pro abortion.
He has given me excellent direction in life. Try reading twelve rules for life. There is a reason DR Peterson is loved by many millions, his book a bestseller, one of the top quora commentators, a professor at harvard and university of Toronto. Honestly he is one of the greatest minds of our time. I have learned so much from this man. However I feel the more I learn it seems the less I know. There seem to be so many on this utube page who have arrived, they seem to know more than me. It must be nice. I cant seem to ever stop being able to learn, I seem to know nothing.
@@planes3333You must be kidding. One of the greatest minds?! People are just intimidated by him because he always has this angry indignation. The man needs a valium or 3.
@@planes3333 Well informed religious discussions and debates are overcomplicating what's actually a simple topic. Jordan Peterson in particular is a master of overcomplication. After listening to him, it's hard not to see his rambling as a mess of unnecessary confusion as he tries to legitimize the magic in an ancient book of fantasy. We all know better, even if some refuse to admit it. It is unfortunate that many, like yourself, will hear an articulation of scholarly concepts and respond with, "the more I learn it seems the less I know". The ridiculousness of religion makes it very easy to quickly find your position. Nobody rose from the dead, the sea wasn't split into two, a bat is not a bird, people shouldn't be owned as property, women actually have value, and so on. Don't be intimidated by philosophical "deepities" when talking about religion.
@@vratyasvakyas6022 By word I mean the longest ones I could find in the dictionary (think Welsh villages). By salad I mean a good metric ton of scallion caught in Jamie Olivers fried rice, rubbing shoulders with chili jam and pestled tofu.
The composure of Dawkins and Alex is such a stark contrast to Peterson it makes him look like a flailing temperamental child 🙈. Glad to see there are some adults in the room to hold his hand. “I’m not interested in dragons, I’m interested in reality” 💀
It shows the terrible impact that religious indoctrination has on a potentially intelligent brain. It really is a form of brain damage and quite pitiable.
Me too, since 2013. Besides them, here in Brazil, in that year I was also informing myself on this topic with two youtubers, Pirula and Clarion De Laffalot. Pirula is a biologist and explained about evolution, and introduced me to Richard Dawkins, and Clarion used to make amazing videos about logical thinking and fallacies.
Peterson understands the question. Dawkins knows that Peterson understands the question. Peterson knows that Dawkins knows that he, Peterson, understands the question. Yet still, Peterson dances around the question. He exposes himself to be a dishonest interlocutor. All it took was a straight question. And Dawkins just sits there, while Peterson unravels.
Here in Sweden we have an expression, "word pooping", that very much describes Jordan Petersons way of expressing himself. It's like an unfiltered stream of consiousness where he begins by talking and then makes up his argument along the way.
We in Lithuania we have an expression "spinning pasta over the ears", that very much describes Jordan Petersons way of saying a loads of shit to confuse another person and avoid answering direct question, making another person who is listening become tired and filled in full of shit. I believe Jordan Peterson is energetic vampire... if they exist LOL
JP is an academic and experienced Clinical Psychologist he doesn’t do trite or superficial. Hard for some people to understand in this instant gratification, trite, superficial world. I’m an atheist so don’t necessarily agree with JP on this topic but I respect his reasoning. I think his argument is largely that as human beings we are predisposed to religious belief - or explanations for the universe - and therefore religion plays an important function in human societies whether we like it or not. If we don’t have spiritual belief outside of ourselves the vacuum is filled with terrible alternatives like communism and the deification of corrupt humans. And on that he has a point - but I still think religion is man made so is just as corrupt and human as any other ideology 🤷♀️
Even considering putting him in that category is an insult to intelligence. Building your career in telling young men to make their beds is not an intellectual achievement.
Peterson clearly won't shut up because it's become so financially rewarding for him. I think deep down he knows he's a complete fraud, but money is fun to roll around in.
Did Jordan tell you how to change the tyre on your car like he promised? 'No, but I heard a story about 3 dogs and how they represent our childhood trauma. But he seemed to think he taught me how to change the tyre'
@@mrrolandlawrenceNo, …..he’s NEVER been stable . He personifies the old ‘ chicken or egg ‘ conundrum , & he’s finally being exposed as the ****** he is and always has been . History is littered w snake oilers like him
@grayy10k 3 years ago (edited) He's the type of professor where you won't say a WORD in his class. Undivided attention and respect 18K Reply 128 replies this is a comment on Jordan Peterson. Notice the 18k likes in his honor
Absolutely. Comparing the noise, eye rolling and waving of hands of the vacuous JP with the amused, relaxed, sarcastic silence of RD is so revealing...
@alligatordundee4983 no, Harris addresses questions, felon trump "weaves" incoherently while not answering any questions. He literally believes he was the "best" president, even though he presidency was a failure.
Do what you want its freedom of speech. We see buses driving around that say “ there is probably no God so why not enjoy your life” ……dont be silenced by the haters and the new atheists in their new religion. Remember atheism was the reason for the gulags, the great leap forward and the killing fields. Nietzsche and Dostoevsky both predicted the coming butchery from Stalin, Pot and Mao and the death toll reached from 70-100 million dead. That's 100,000,000 people massacred from three regimes and three men. Remember with “God is Dead” you get bloodshed. The Salem witch trials killed 7 the atheist regimes of the 20th century killed 70 million. Also Alexander Solzenitzyn wrote about the insane evil massacres in his book the “Gulag Archipelago” which is now required reading in Russia and by the way it basically brought down the communist/atheistic soviet union. Atheists many of whom are brilliant and than there are those who have not done the job of atheism and that is the seeking of all knowledge about all claims of this universe beginning. Some atheists are as bad as our Fred Phelps and Kenneth Copeland's. Even though we have our Ravi Zacharias's and Stephen Meyers and John Lennox. keep preaching man Jesus commanded it but be wise, dont throw your pearls to pigs.. Also how can an atheist have an opinion on what good or bad is, is that not just a matter of opinion? From where do they derive their actual morals and values from? Society? well I would hate to be a jew during the German final solution during that time in that warped society, oh and your not like that are you? Wait and see what you go along with, or are you already pro abortion.
No your wrong he does believe christianity is true. Also Dr Peterson has made millions from his books and speaking engagements. He speaks what he believes and he speaks truth reaching millions. I have seen him in debates with television stations in europe and in the west. I have seen about 7 different videos on youtube where he gave a psychological take on the biblical stories. He spoke to packed auditoriums I saw him lecturing on sumerian myth, nazies, and chaos and order when he taught at universities, I saw him lecturing on m.a.i.d in my country of canada. I saw him lecturing on the atheist/communist soviet union while killed about 70,000,000 people to 100,000,000 people in the great leap forward, killing fields and the gulags. I have seen him interviewed on Joe Rogan twice or three times, I saw him fighting for free speech in my country and I am halfway through reading 12 rules for life. I have learned about history, psychology, religion, myth, nazi germany, communism, genocide, alexander solzhenitsyn, Friedrich Nietzsche, Carl Jung, Sigmund Freud, Dostoyevsky, Jesus, Moses, Abraham, Joshua, The epic of Gilgamesh, the Enumalish, and many other topics. He certainly has given me many helpful practices in my life from thinking to living, and my faith also has been conceptualised to another dynamic. also he encouraged me to get order in my life and as such I cleaned my room I think he is one of the most intelligent men to walk the earth, right up there with Dostoyevsky and Chris Langene. thanks for your question. hope your having as good a day as I am from canada
Does he? No your wrong he does believe christianity is true. Also Dr Peterson has made millions from his books and speaking engagements. He speaks what he believes and he speaks truth reaching millions. I have seen him in debates with television stations in europe and in the west. I have seen about 7 different videos on youtube where he gave a psychological take on the biblical stories. He spoke to packed auditoriums I saw him lecturing on sumerian myth, nazies, and chaos and order when he taught at universities, I saw him lecturing on m.a.i.d in my country of canada. I saw him lecturing on the atheist/communist soviet union while killed about 70,000,000 people to 100,000,000 people in the great leap forward, killing fields and the gulags. I have seen him interviewed on Joe Rogan twice or three times, I saw him fighting for free speech in my country and I am halfway through reading 12 rules for life. I have learned about history, psychology, religion, myth, nazi germany, communism, genocide, alexander solzhenitsyn, Friedrich Nietzsche, Carl Jung, Sigmund Freud, Dostoyevsky, Jesus, Moses, Abraham, Joshua, The epic of Gilgamesh, the Enumalish, and many other topics. He certainly has given me many helpful practices in my life from thinking to living, and my faith also has been conceptualised to another dynamic. also he encouraged me to get order in my life and as such I cleaned my room I think he is one of the most intelligent men to walk the earth, right up there with Dostoyevsky and Chris Langene. thanks for your question. hope your having as good a day as I am from canada
Do what you want its freedom of speech. We see buses driving around that say “ there is probably no God so why not enjoy your life” ……dont be silenced by the haters and the new atheists in their new religion. Remember atheism was the reason for the gulags, the great leap forward and the killing fields. Nietzsche and Dostoevsky both predicted the coming butchery from Stalin, Pot and Mao and the death toll reached from 70-100 million dead. That's 100,000,000 people massacred from three regimes and three men. Remember with “God is Dead” you get bloodshed. The Salem witch trials killed 7 the atheist regimes of the 20th century killed 70 million. Also Alexander Solzenitzyn wrote about the insane evil massacres in his book the “Gulag Archipelago” which is now required reading in Russia and by the way it basically brought down the communist/atheistic soviet union. Atheists many of whom are brilliant and than there are those who have not done the job of atheism and that is the seeking of all knowledge about all claims of this universe beginning. Some atheists are as bad as our Fred Phelps and Kenneth Copeland's. Even though we have our Ravi Zacharias's and Stephen Meyers and John Lennox. keep preaching man Jesus commanded it but be wise, dont throw your pearls to pigs.. Also how can an atheist have an opinion on what good or bad is, is that not just a matter of opinion? From where do they derive their actual morals and values from? Society? well I would hate to be a jew during the German final solution during that time in that warped society, oh and your not like that are you? Wait and see what you go along with, or are you already pro abortion.
Because he is an atheist who pretends to not be an atheist because the American right has made him a rich man and he cannot possibly admit to the American right that he is an atheist for fear of his revenue streams going away.
I love Dr. Peterson, but he's afraid to say that he doesn't believe in the literal, virgin birth because he doesn't want to lose his fundamentalist followers.
If he doesn't believe in that or the resurrection then he's wasting his time . Without those two articles of faith, Christianity collapses. Peterson, like many people has struggled with it and unlike most people who either a) abandon the faith and then become equally evangelistic about atheism or b) submit totally to the faith and become almost masochistic and irrational and abandoned all critical thinking faculties. The vast majority of church goers are just well meaning nice people who don't think about the dogma that's put in front of them, and enjoy being part of a social group of Sunday church people. Most will die in a hospital not caring either way under powerful medication not knowing they've died.
Professor Peterson's great strength is without a doubt his ability to dodge answering direct questions in a straightforward way. He will ramble and ramble and appeal to symbolism and any other tools which will take the conversation in a direction that he feels more comfortable with. Basically, he's a master in bullshitting his way out of any difficult situation!
I disagree. I agree that he dodged everything he's ever asked, but he's definitely not good at it. He gets agitated and spews nonsense and it's extremely obvious that he's deflecting because he's uncomfortable answering. If he was good at it you would have a hard time realizing he dodged the question. Like when Sam Harris asked if he believed in the resurrection, a yes or no question. "It would take me 40 hours to explain that." He, like many believers, myself included when I was younger, is afraid of denying the obvious falsity for fear of going to hell and/or disappointing god
No your wrong he does believe christianity is true. Also Dr Peterson has made millions from his books and speaking engagements. He speaks what he believes and he speaks truth reaching millions. I have seen him in debates with television stations in europe and in the west. I have seen about 7 different videos on youtube where he gave a psychological take on the biblical stories. He spoke to packed auditoriums I saw him lecturing on sumerian myth, nazies, and chaos and order when he taught at universities, I saw him lecturing on m.a.i.d in my country of canada. I saw him lecturing on the atheist/communist soviet union while killed about 70,000,000 people to 100,000,000 people in the great leap forward, killing fields and the gulags. I have seen him interviewed on Joe Rogan twice or three times, I saw him fighting for free speech in my country and I am halfway through reading 12 rules for life. I have learned about history, psychology, religion, myth, nazi germany, communism, genocide, alexander solzhenitsyn, Friedrich Nietzsche, Carl Jung, Sigmund Freud, Dostoyevsky, Jesus, Moses, Abraham, Joshua, The epic of Gilgamesh, the Enumalish, and many other topics. He certainly has given me many helpful practices in my life from thinking to living, and my faith also has been conceptualised to another dynamic. also he encouraged me to get order in my life and as such I cleaned my room I think he is one of the most intelligent men to walk the earth, right up there with Dostoyevsky and Chris Langene. thanks for your question. hope your having as good a day as I am from canada
It is getting harder and harder to listen to his gibberish (sophisticated sounding ramblings)... Although, it was a pleasure to watch Professor Dawkins torment the foolish man...
Both Sam Harris and Richard Dawkins are much too kind to Peterson. If Hitchens was still around and agreed to a debate, within a minute he would have called him a total fraud.
@@chiefchimp2789I see the kindness as a plus. Something very effectual about the facts speaking for themselves without resorting to anything ruthless. Poor Jordan is so clearly under pressure here. He's squirming....all whilst Dawkins is so clear but mannerly, as usual.
@@chiefchimp2789if you haven’t seen it yet I recommend watching Matt Dillahunty debating him, he handled Peterson better than anyone I’ve seen, didn’t let him get away with any of his semantic tricks like diversions and redefining words etc. he pretty much wiped the floor with him.
Peterson has always been the internet's most famous stopped clock. Every time he ends a statement I'm left baffled by all the words soup that's been spilled.
@@apathyguy8338 I know what you mean! What always admired about him was the way he often took long pauses to choose exactly the word he wanted for the soup! 🙂 He never let interviewers away with putting words into his mouth. He knows his own trade well and I respect his views on the 'pronouns' business that lost him his job. But his religious 'beliefs" (?) left me disappointed. These two and Stephen Fry are high in my esteem as was the late Hitchens.
I don't like Peterson but Dawkins is just a hack who knows nothing about how the world works because he ignores every scientific field outside his own. And I'm not talking about theology but sociology, economics, psychology, all of the cultural sciences. He simply refuses to learn. That's why he became totally irrelevant.
@grayy10k 3 years ago (edited) He's the type of professor where you won't say a WORD in his class. Undivided attention and respect 18K Reply 128 replies this is a comment on Jordan Peterson. Notice the 18k likes in his honor
Wow! First time hearing JP talking/babbling about his imaginary friends without being able to bring one valid argument to the table. What a waste of time…
Jesus Christ has been the most loving, kind, wise and powerful person to walk the earth. He has had millions of followers in the past willing to die in his name and billions worship him as God today. In fact 2.5 billion people worship Jesus Christ as their God, who took on flesh and walked among the very creations he himself made, his mission on earth to undo all evil, sin, death and suffering from Satan's work of destroying humanity. He healed the sick, raised the dead, taught the nations, helped the lost, fed the poor, gave sight to the blind, gave hearing to the deaf, healed the possessed, and died on a cross for all who would accept his free gift of salvation for their sins. Jesus is on every continent, in almost every language, biblical teachings are the foundation to western society and millions of books, paintings, art, songs, plays, teachings, sermons are all about Jesus. Even time itself was split according to his arrival on earth. BC and AD. Sadly secular society tried to make the timeline not in reference to Jesus but the Gregorian calendar is still used by some. Persecution of christians is the most prevalent type of prejudice but his followers still follow him. You can still make a pilgrimage to see Bethlehem, Nazareth, capernaum, Jerusalem, calvary, golgotha and many other places Jesus walked talked and died for mankind's sins. 2.5 billion people worship Jesus as their God. 1.8 billion muslims see Jesus as a prophet and 1 billion Hindus see Jesus as a good teacher, reincarnation or avatar. Almost everyone in the world knows about Jesus The Greatest Man in History… Jesus; Had no servants, yet they called Him Master. Had no degree, yet they called Him Teacher. Had no medicines, yet they called Him Healer. He had no army, yet kings feared Him. He won no military battles, yet He conquered the world. He did not live in a castle, yet they called Him Lord, He ruled no nations, yet they called Him King, He committed no crime, yet they crucified Him. He was buried in a tomb, yet He lives today
@@planes3333Why do you think he explains how to beat your slaves? Why does he say, "Think not that I come to bring peace, come to divide mother against daughter, father against son...?"
@@dwolfcoach Yes he does divide mother against son and father against daughter. You are completely correct. My own family is just like that, my parents are split up and me and my mom love Jesus and my sister is kind of odd as she recognises that Jesus was a very awesome dude but than she is sort of new age and into reincarnation etc. My dad seems to be an agnostic or atheist. Half of all my relatives are devout believers in Jesus, the other half are semi cultural christians or atheists. Jesus came to save all and any who want to be forgiven of sin, he wont force himself on us, he gives us free will. He made enough proof of his mighty power in the millions of species and trillions of stars. Your right. Jesus came in love and mercy but he is returning with a double edged sword to judge the nations. Funny thing is the moon is rusting and the euphrates is drying up and Israel is back in their homeland as the scriptures say things will be in the last days and with cryptocurrency and digital money the "mark of the beast" is easy to do. PEACE Jesus loves you
@@dwolfcoach Exodus 21:20-21 says, “Anyone who beats their male or female slave with a rod must be punished if the slave dies as a direct result, but they are not to be punished if the slave recovers after a day or two, since the slave is their property.” Why did the Mosaic Law allow for slave owners to beat their slaves? The obvious answer is that, in the social structure of ancient Israel, physical punishment was considered the appropriate response for acts of disobedience and rebellion. The text does not specifically say that the corporal punishment has to be for some form of disobedience; however, based on the larger Old Testament context, it is safe to assume that slave masters were not allowed carte blanche authority to do whatever they wanted to their slaves. In Exodus 21, slave owners are limited in what they can do: if the master goes too far and the slave dies, the master will be punished. If the Old Testament Law is followed consistently, then the punishment for the slave owner might even include the death penalty for murder. Of course, if a master beats his slave and the slave is unable to work for some time, the master has punished himself by losing the work he might have received from the slave. The implication here is that it is in the master’s best interest not to be too severe. Exodus 21:20-21 is certainly troubling to people with modern sensitivities. Modern people in the free world have come to view autonomous personal freedom as the highest form of good and anything that curtails personal freedom as the ultimate evil. People may be tempted to read a passage like Exodus 21:20-21 and charge God with moral evil. Such charges need to be challenged, for slavery is not the only area where modern sensitivities and biblical guidelines clash-abortion and homosexuality are two other flashpoints. The danger on this issue is that most Christians would agree that slavery is morally reprehensible. There are two distinct approaches in formulating an answer to why the Bible allows for slavery, and the outcome will be determined by what a person accepts as the authority. The first approach goes something like this: Slavery is morally reprehensible in all situations. The Bible allows slavery. Therefore the Bible is an unreliable moral guide. In this case, current moral sensitivities are the authority, and the Bible is measured against those sensibilities. The second goes something like this: The Bible is a reliable moral guide. The Bible allows slavery. Therefore slavery cannot be morally reprehensible in all situations. In this case, the Bible is the final authority, and modern thinking about right and wrong has to be adjusted to accommodate what we find in the Bible. Slavery has been a fact of human existence for almost as long as the human race has been in existence. Physical punishment to enforce compliance has been part of slavery for just as long. Corporal punishment has also been used in situations other than slavery. For example, physical chastisements were commonly employed as punishment for crimes committed and for the enforcing of discipline in the military. We are not so far removed from the time when brutal physical punishment was administered and accepted by almost everyone as legitimate. In the British Navy, flogging for disobedience or insubordination was common until the mid-19th century, and caning was used until the mid-20th century. In some places, such as Singapore, caning is still an official form of punishment for certain crimes. The Bible does not forbid slavery, nor does it demand that every slave owner who wants to please God must immediately emancipate his slaves. Instead, the Bible at every turn calls for a treatment of slaves that would have been more humane than any found in the culture at large. The very idea that a master could be punished in any way for killing a slave would have been scandalous at the time Moses gave the Law. The culture at large made no attempt to grant slaves any rights. Slaves in Egypt or Moab, for example, were afforded no such protection. Earlier in the same chapter, kidnapping for the purpose of slavery is condemned and the death penalty enjoined: “Anyone who kidnaps someone is to be put to death, whether the victim has been sold or is still in the kidnapper’s possession” (Exodus 21:16). (Ironically, the death penalty is another area where modern people assume their moral sensitivity is superior to God’s!) Furthermore, we must not make the mistake of equating slavery in ancient Israel with antebellum slavery in the United States. If the biblical dictates regarding slavery, including the regulations found in Exodus 21:16, 20-21, had been enforced in Western nations in the 1800s, then slavery in the United States would have been very different. The regulations regarding slaves in Exodus 21, far from being inhumane, would have been far more humane and protective of the slave in Israel than in any of the surrounding nations.
@@dwolfcoach Glad to hear your a loving compassionate person. I assume you care and love all people like me (though I can be somewhat rude in my comments from time to time.) I guess like me you are utterly opposed to cruelty of animals, slavery, sex slavery and abortion. If your not against those things are you not being a hypocrite. Also slavery in america and england was stopped by rich white men who were christians. Also slavery was a world wide commerce. People in roman times sold themselves into slavery at one point one third of the world was slaves.
Because he is a genuine intellectual who educated millions of people on many complicated subjects. He is a brilliant psychologist, his OLD lectures are very, very, very informative. His arguments about the West, the leftists, democracy and many other things are spot on. He opened eyes of many people to lies of the legacy media and still going strong. But. Yes. He has an idea that the religion is a product of evolution (which he doesn't deny) and is desperately trying to marry religion with science or to prove that the "God" is a something of a representation of reality which is inside of every single one of use and that's why we crave for religion so much. He just can't let go of this idea. And since he DID educate A LOT of people on MANY intellectual matters, he, as far as I am concerned, starts to think of himself as a prophet. Well... you see where this is going. I also dislike his religious fervor. Honestly, he is going more insane with each day, but I still appreciate him. He is still a good man and I will recoomend his psychological lectures to anyone. You shouldn't just dismiss a person if he failed in one intellectiual duscussion, btw. He can be wrong here and 100% correct in different matters. Or 40% correct. You be the judje.
@@TheFaveteLinguisI've watched a lot of JP and RD content. Not a single time I've heard JP say anything of substance, as opposed to 99.99% of the time in the case of RD. Life is too short to waste it on people like JP.
@@mayhu3282 I hope you wouldn't mind me disagreeing with you on that matter. Let's take for example: 2014 Personality Lecture 16: Extraversion & Neuroticism (Biology & Traits) And other lectures of that sort. Let me know what you think. There are many more with genuine research. 2015 Personality Lecture 15: Biology & Traits: Limbic System & Lower Order Goals
It’s a blessing and a privilege to have clear thinking, courage and the ability to express that thought process with simplicity. My brain started hurting when Jordan was talking. He just wasn’t answering the question. Im sensing Jordan knows Christianity is really important to his wife and he loves his wife. He nearly lost her to cancer and was helped to recover through belief and he doesn’t want to be disloyal to her or cause any problems to her belief therefore wellbeing.
When I first stumbled upon Jordan Peterson, I thought, I need to listen to more of this guy. Now I realize that he just has every word of the day calendar every made. . . memorized
Look hes right on free speech and expression and how without it tyrany is sure to swallow us all. But hes wrong on religion. You dont have to have to fully praise or condemn the man. Many people are wrong on things but can do immense good soeaking correctly on other things... Quit demanding perfectiomism.
@86Corvus I didn't say anything about him being right or wrong about anything, nor did I demand perfection. I just implied he likes to hear himself talk.
@@86Corvus You r right that most ppl say a mix of right and wrong things and that you cannot seek perfection. But, I think Peterson causes more harm than good. That is why a ton of people make fun of him. He encourages ppl to be delusional and illogical. A lot of ppl recognize this about him and think it is wrong.
Jesus Christ has been the most loving, kind, wise and powerful person to walk the earth. He has had millions of followers in the past willing to die in his name and billions worship him as God today. In fact 2.5 billion people worship Jesus Christ as their God, who took on flesh and walked among the very creations he himself made, his mission on earth to undo all evil, sin, death and suffering from Satan's work of destroying humanity. He healed the sick, raised the dead, taught the nations, helped the lost, fed the poor, gave sight to the blind, gave hearing to the deaf, healed the possessed, and died on a cross for all who would accept his free gift of salvation for their sins. Jesus is on every continent, in almost every language, biblical teachings are the foundation to western society and millions of books, paintings, art, songs, plays, teachings, sermons are all about Jesus. Even time itself was split according to his arrival on earth. BC and AD. Sadly secular society tried to make the timeline not in reference to Jesus but the Gregorian calendar is still used by some. Persecution of christians is the most prevalent type of prejudice but his followers still follow him. You can still make a pilgrimage to see Bethlehem, Nazareth, capernaum, Jerusalem, calvary, golgotha and many other places Jesus walked talked and died for mankind's sins. 2.5 billion people worship Jesus as their God. 1.8 billion muslims see Jesus as a prophet and 1 billion Hindus see Jesus as a good teacher, reincarnation or avatar. Almost everyone in the world knows about Jesus The Greatest Man in History… Jesus; Had no servants, yet they called Him Master. Had no degree, yet they called Him Teacher. Had no medicines, yet they called Him Healer. He had no army, yet kings feared Him. He won no military battles, yet He conquered the world. He did not live in a castle, yet they called Him Lord, He ruled no nations, yet they called Him King, He committed no crime, yet they crucified Him. He was buried in a tomb, yet He lives today
Jordan B Peterson. Raised in northern Alberta. Has flown a hammerhead roll in a carbon fiber stunt plane, built a ceremonial brighouse on the top of his home after being invited to by the Canadian first nations people. He has been a dishwasher, gas jockey, bartender, short order cook, bee-keeper, oil derrick re-tipper, plywood mill labourer, and railway line worker. He has taught mythology to lawyers, doctors and business people, consulted for the UN secretary general panel for sustainable development. Dr Peterson has helped his clients to manage depression, obsessive compulsive, anxiety and schizophrenia. Served as an adviser to senior partners in major Canadian law firms. He has identified thousands of entrepreneurs in sixty different countries. He has lectured extensively in europe and north america. He has published more than 100 scientific papers. He is an expert in communism and nazismn. He was a Harvard professor and was nominated for the Levenson teaching prize. His tenure at university of Toronto saw him being considered as one of three truly life changing professors. He is a quora most viewed writer. Dr Peterson has given hope to many who were lost, he has millions of people who attend his lectures on biblical, mythological and religious and psychological themes. He is a beacon for free speech and free expression. His teaching and books were one variable among many that helped me to learn about Nietzsche's, Dostoevsky and Solzhenitsyn. He has brought hope and blessings to millions I feel compassion for all of you that hate him, he is one of the most intelligent people that are on earth. He has dedicated his life to helping people and he is hated.
No your wrong he does believe christianity is true. Also Dr Peterson has made millions from his books and speaking engagements. He speaks what he believes and he speaks truth reaching millions. I have seen him in debates with television stations in europe and in the west. I have seen about 7 different videos on youtube where he gave a psychological take on the biblical stories. He spoke to packed auditoriums I saw him lecturing on sumerian myth, nazies, and chaos and order when he taught at universities, I saw him lecturing on m.a.i.d in my country of canada. I saw him lecturing on the atheist/communist soviet union while killed about 70,000,000 people to 100,000,000 people in the great leap forward, killing fields and the gulags. I have seen him interviewed on Joe Rogan twice or three times, I saw him fighting for free speech in my country and I am halfway through reading 12 rules for life. I have learned about history, psychology, religion, myth, nazi germany, communism, genocide, alexander solzhenitsyn, Friedrich Nietzsche, Carl Jung, Sigmund Freud, Dostoyevsky, Jesus, Moses, Abraham, Joshua, The epic of Gilgamesh, the Enumalish, and many other topics. He certainly has given me many helpful practices in my life from thinking to living, and my faith also has been conceptualised to another dynamic. also he encouraged me to get order in my life and as such I cleaned my room I think he is one of the most intelligent men to walk the earth, right up there with Dostoyevsky and Chris Langene. thanks for your question. hope your having as good a day as I am from canada
Everytime the psychologist appears in a debate with a learned opponent, it's like he's on a psychoanalyst's couch, wrestling with a truth that he's desperately trying to resist. He squirms and contorts, his fingers twitch as if activated by electricity and he avoids eye contact while struggling to maintain even a modicum of control over his vocalizing. It's apparently tough to be him.
No your wrong he does believe christianity is true. Also Dr Peterson has made millions from his books and speaking engagements. He speaks what he believes and he speaks truth reaching millions. I have seen him in debates with television stations in europe and in the west. I have seen about 7 different videos on youtube where he gave a psychological take on the biblical stories. He spoke to packed auditoriums I saw him lecturing on sumerian myth, nazies, and chaos and order when he taught at universities, I saw him lecturing on m.a.i.d in my country of canada. I saw him lecturing on the atheist/communist soviet union while killed about 70,000,000 people to 100,000,000 people in the great leap forward, killing fields and the gulags. I have seen him interviewed on Joe Rogan twice or three times, I saw him fighting for free speech in my country and I am halfway through reading 12 rules for life. I have learned about history, psychology, religion, myth, nazi germany, communism, genocide, alexander solzhenitsyn, Friedrich Nietzsche, Carl Jung, Sigmund Freud, Dostoyevsky, Jesus, Moses, Abraham, Joshua, The epic of Gilgamesh, the Enumalish, and many other topics. He certainly has given me many helpful practices in my life from thinking to living, and my faith also has been conceptualised to another dynamic. also he encouraged me to get order in my life and as such I cleaned my room I think he is one of the most intelligent men to walk the earth, right up there with Dostoyevsky and Chris Langene. thanks for your question. hope your having as good a day as I am from canada
If you asked Peterson if Tinker-bell exists in the real world, he could easily answer. Ask him about religion and he waffles with endless incoherence while claiming it's too complicated for highly intelligent people to understand. Why it is so hard to say: 'very little in Bible is factually true, but the value lies in the meaning of the stories'? I was impressed while I was in Kakadu National Park in northern Australia when the Aboriginal park ranger explained the geography by saying: "we believe this area was created by 'x' mythical being", but science tells us the area was formed by 'y'. It was refreshing.
I'm genuinely not sure that he wouldn't make a case for Tinkerbell existing. Something like her archetype is so ingrained that in a sense she does exist. Which is insane
Jordan B Peterson. Raised in northern Alberta. Has flown a hammerhead roll in a carbon fiber stunt plane, built a ceremonial brighouse on the top of his home after being invited to by the Canadian first nations people. He has been a dishwasher, gas jockey, bartender, short order cook, bee-keeper, oil derrick re-tipper, plywood mill labourer, and railway line worker. He has taught mythology to lawyers, doctors and business people, consulted for the UN secretary general panel for sustainable development. Dr Peterson has helped his clients to manage depression, obsessive compulsive, anxiety and schizophrenia. Served as an adviser to senior partners in major Canadian law firms. He has identified thousands of entrepreneurs in sixty different countries. He has lectured extensively in europe and north america. He has published more than 100 scientific papers. He is an expert in communism and nazismn. He was a Harvard professor and was nominated for the Levenson teaching prize. His tenure at university of Toronto saw him being considered as one of three truly life changing professors. He is a quora most viewed writer. Dr Peterson has given hope to many who were lost, he has millions of people who attend his lectures on biblical, mythological and religious and psychological themes. He is a beacon for free speech and free expression. His teaching and books were one variable among many that helped me to learn about Nietzsche's, Dostoevsky and Solzhenitsyn. He has brought hope and blessings to millions I feel compassion for all of you that hate him, he is one of the most intelligent people that are on earth. He has dedicated his life to helping people and he is hated.
Finally someone confronted this charlatan. Dawkins sacrifice for our sins here... He is the hope for this world so future generations can figure out truth more easily.
If you understand what he is saying, and the place from which he is saying it, you would not call him a charlatan. If measuring the Earth's diameter to the nearest millimeter is your idea of the height of human cultural achievement, then yes, carry on thinking as you do. But calling Petersen a charlatan is simpleminded, at best, malicious at worst.
@@harryposner7584 It isn’t measuring the Earth’s diameter to hair’s breadth, it’s predicting the Earth’s diameter to a hair’s breadth and getting it right. It is an understanding of the true hidden nature of reality, possibly the greatest cultural achievement possible.
LOL. Peterson is a public intellectual in a way that Dawkins simply isn't. Dawkins is out of his depth whenever he ventures into any area that requires a hinterland, as he repeatedly makes clear. If you are going to insist on being a grovelling fan boy, find somebody more worthy of your adulation.
@@nfdslkfladhf No, Peterson is qualified in political science and psychology, and so certainly has a grasp of statistics and the scientific method. He is also far more widely read than Dawkins. Dawkins is a populariser of science, not a public intellectual. His association with Hitchens underscores this - no genuine intellectual would regard Hitchens with any real seriousness.
Prof. Peterson is the ideal orator. One that can speak for hours eloquently without providing an answer and leaving you in doubt if he has answered or not.
Do what you want its freedom of speech. We see buses driving around that say “ there is probably no God so why not enjoy your life” ……dont be silenced by the haters and the new atheists in their new religion. Remember atheism was the reason for the gulags, the great leap forward and the killing fields. Nietzsche and Dostoevsky both predicted the coming butchery from Stalin, Pot and Mao and the death toll reached from 70-100 million dead. That's 100,000,000 people massacred from three regimes and three men. Remember with “God is Dead” you get bloodshed. The Salem witch trials killed 7 the atheist regimes of the 20th century killed 70 million. Also Alexander Solzenitzyn wrote about the insane evil massacres in his book the “Gulag Archipelago” which is now required reading in Russia and by the way it basically brought down the communist/atheistic soviet union. Atheists many of whom are brilliant and than there are those who have not done the job of atheism and that is the seeking of all knowledge about all claims of this universe beginning. Some atheists are as bad as our Fred Phelps and Kenneth Copeland's. Even though we have our Ravi Zacharias's and Stephen Meyers and John Lennox. keep preaching man Jesus commanded it but be wise, dont throw your pearls to pigs.. Also how can an atheist have an opinion on what good or bad is, is that not just a matter of opinion? From where do they derive their actual morals and values from? Society? well I would hate to be a jew during the German final solution during that time in that warped society, oh and your not like that are you? Wait and see what you go along with, or are you already pro abortion.
No your wrong he does believe christianity is true. Also Dr Peterson has made millions from his books and speaking engagements. He speaks what he believes and he speaks truth reaching millions. I have seen him in debates with television stations in europe and in the west. I have seen about 7 different videos on youtube where he gave a psychological take on the biblical stories. He spoke to packed auditoriums I saw him lecturing on sumerian myth, nazies, and chaos and order when he taught at universities, I saw him lecturing on m.a.i.d in my country of canada. I saw him lecturing on the atheist/communist soviet union while killed about 70,000,000 people to 100,000,000 people in the great leap forward, killing fields and the gulags. I have seen him interviewed on Joe Rogan twice or three times, I saw him fighting for free speech in my country and I am halfway through reading 12 rules for life. I have learned about history, psychology, religion, myth, nazi germany, communism, genocide, alexander solzhenitsyn, Friedrich Nietzsche, Carl Jung, Sigmund Freud, Dostoyevsky, Jesus, Moses, Abraham, Joshua, The epic of Gilgamesh, the Enumalish, and many other topics. He certainly has given me many helpful practices in my life from thinking to living, and my faith also has been conceptualised to another dynamic. also he encouraged me to get order in my life and as such I cleaned my room I think he is one of the most intelligent men to walk the earth, right up there with Dostoyevsky and Chris Langene. thanks for your question. hope your having as good a day as I am from canada
@@Yossarianhoenikker I feel you may be correct, I've watched him since his very first appearance online on that campus, he did eventually, slowly introduce religious values, then particularly after his first book I felt he went into long, deep detail on theology. I feel that since then, something like 5 years ago, he has progressively unravelled into focusing on it entirely. I did find him admit to a spiritual experience as a child, I think it was a debate with Sam Harris or Matt Dillahunty. Both of whom had him speechless, quite worth watching. He absolutely believes that religion is integral to the functioning of humanity, which I can definitely entertain but not fully subscribe to.
Jesus Christ has been the most loving, kind, wise and powerful person to walk the earth. He has had millions of followers in the past willing to die in his name and billions worship him as God today. In fact 2.5 billion people worship Jesus Christ as their God, who took on flesh and walked among the very creations he himself made, his mission on earth to undo all evil, sin, death and suffering from Satan's work of destroying humanity. He healed the sick, raised the dead, taught the nations, helped the lost, fed the poor, gave sight to the blind, gave hearing to the deaf, healed the possessed, and died on a cross for all who would accept his free gift of salvation for their sins. Jesus is on every continent, in almost every language, biblical teachings are the foundation to western society and millions of books, paintings, art, songs, plays, teachings, sermons are all about Jesus. Even time itself was split according to his arrival on earth. BC and AD. Sadly secular society tried to make the timeline not in reference to Jesus but the Gregorian calendar is still used by some. Persecution of christians is the most prevalent type of prejudice but his followers still follow him. You can still make a pilgrimage to see Bethlehem, Nazareth, capernaum, Jerusalem, calvary, golgotha and many other places Jesus walked talked and died for mankind's sins. 2.5 billion people worship Jesus as their God. 1.8 billion muslims see Jesus as a prophet and 1 billion Hindus see Jesus as a good teacher, reincarnation or avatar. Almost everyone in the world knows about Jesus The Greatest Man in History… Jesus; Had no servants, yet they called Him Master. Had no degree, yet they called Him Teacher. Had no medicines, yet they called Him Healer. He had no army, yet kings feared Him. He won no military battles, yet He conquered the world. He did not live in a castle, yet they called Him Lord, He ruled no nations, yet they called Him King, He committed no crime, yet they crucified Him. He was buried in a tomb, yet He lives today
Jordan B Peterson. Raised in northern Alberta. Has flown a hammerhead roll in a carbon fiber stunt plane, built a ceremonial brighouse on the top of his home after being invited to by the Canadian first nations people. He has been a dishwasher, gas jockey, bartender, short order cook, bee-keeper, oil derrick re-tipper, plywood mill labourer, and railway line worker. He has taught mythology to lawyers, doctors and business people, consulted for the UN secretary general panel for sustainable development. Dr Peterson has helped his clients to manage depression, obsessive compulsive, anxiety and schizophrenia. Served as an adviser to senior partners in major Canadian law firms. He has identified thousands of entrepreneurs in sixty different countries. He has lectured extensively in europe and north america. He has published more than 100 scientific papers. He is an expert in communism and nazismn. He was a Harvard professor and was nominated for the Levenson teaching prize. His tenure at university of Toronto saw him being considered as one of three truly life changing professors. He is a quora most viewed writer. Dr Peterson has given hope to many who were lost, he has millions of people who attend his lectures on biblical, mythological and religious and psychological themes. He is a beacon for free speech and free expression. His teaching and books were one variable among many that helped me to learn about Nietzsche's, Dostoevsky and Solzhenitsyn. He has brought hope and blessings to millions I feel compassion for all of you that hate him, he is one of the most intelligent people that are on earth. He has dedicated his life to helping people and he is hated.
No your wrong he does believe christianity is true. Also Dr Peterson has made millions from his books and speaking engagements. He speaks what he believes and he speaks truth reaching millions. I have seen him in debates with television stations in europe and in the west. I have seen about 7 different videos on youtube where he gave a psychological take on the biblical stories. He spoke to packed auditoriums I saw him lecturing on sumerian myth, nazies, and chaos and order when he taught at universities, I saw him lecturing on m.a.i.d in my country of canada. I saw him lecturing on the atheist/communist soviet union while killed about 70,000,000 people to 100,000,000 people in the great leap forward, killing fields and the gulags. I have seen him interviewed on Joe Rogan twice or three times, I saw him fighting for free speech in my country and I am halfway through reading 12 rules for life. I have learned about history, psychology, religion, myth, nazi germany, communism, genocide, alexander solzhenitsyn, Friedrich Nietzsche, Carl Jung, Sigmund Freud, Dostoyevsky, Jesus, Moses, Abraham, Joshua, The epic of Gilgamesh, the Enumalish, and many other topics. He certainly has given me many helpful practices in my life from thinking to living, and my faith also has been conceptualised to another dynamic. also he encouraged me to get order in my life and as such I cleaned my room I think he is one of the most intelligent men to walk the earth, right up there with Dostoyevsky and Chris Langene. thanks for your question. hope your having as good a day as I am from canada
Whether you agree with him or not, Dawkin’s comments are a lazer beam that hits the mark every time. Peterson’s are disco ball, scattering light in all directions.
JP is not being clever, over on his channel his followers are saying Dawkins doesn't understand JPs argument for truth in the utility of Christianitys beliefs. He does understand and is pointing out that JP is answering a different question of truth not the one being put to him.🤦🏻♂️
I think actually that as close an accurate description as I've seen, from what I can tell JP's reluctance to say the biblical stories that fly in the face of scientific fact are almost certainly allegorical stem perhaps from a fear that such an admission would somehow undermine his position, when I think about it I wouldn't take issue even if Peterson was to say the he personally believes them to be factual but he has no evidence for that and the ultimate value derived from the story is an allegorical/mythical value rather than a cast Iron truth claim, ultimately I think that's what he was getting at but didn't quite manage to express it very well.
@@sonny2dapWell tbf Dawkins wasn't asking Peterson to prove it. Dawkins asked if he believes that Jesus died for our sins. At the end of the day if JP said "yes, I believe it" then discussion halts there. Can't talk about science and math at that point. So, what is Dawkins supposed to do when he doesn't believe in any of that shit. It's just gonna be an argument of metaphors that in reality doesn't mean anything.
@@sonny2dap no need to complicate things here.... we all know by now Jordan Peterson doesn't have the balls or the intellect to call a "banana", a "banana". Religious Jordan is a disgrace to human intellect, as simple as that.
Peterson knew exactly what you were saying and what he was being asked. He didn't want to answer, so he just spewed out some word salad, hoping people would forget what he'd actually been asked. It's difficult to debate someone that is unwilling to engage with reality or give an answer that makes sense.
@@RockoBam1 what if the quantum mechanics of the implicit response was the foundational basis of the universal reality? If we seek adequately enough with the resolve of ancestral rome, the realm of absolute truth would be evident in the physical as well as the quantum level. Surely supercalafragilisticexpialadotious would quantify such a well grounded response 😁. That's the best waffle i could put together in under a minute lol. Doesn't need to make sense just needs to be articulated lol
Jordan B Peterson. Raised in northern Alberta. Has flown a hammerhead roll in a carbon fiber stunt plane, built a ceremonial brighouse on the top of his home after being invited to by the Canadian first nations people. He has been a dishwasher, gas jockey, bartender, short order cook, bee-keeper, oil derrick re-tipper, plywood mill labourer, and railway line worker. He has taught mythology to lawyers, doctors and business people, consulted for the UN secretary general panel for sustainable development. Dr Peterson has helped his clients to manage depression, obsessive compulsive, anxiety and schizophrenia. Served as an adviser to senior partners in major Canadian law firms. He has identified thousands of entrepreneurs in sixty different countries. He has lectured extensively in europe and north america. He has published more than 100 scientific papers. He is an expert in communism and nazismn. He was a Harvard professor and was nominated for the Levenson teaching prize. His tenure at university of Toronto saw him being considered as one of three truly life changing professors. He is a quora most viewed writer. Dr Peterson has given hope to many who were lost, he has millions of people who attend his lectures on biblical, mythological and religious and psychological themes. He is a beacon for free speech and free expression. His teaching and books were one variable among many that helped me to learn about Nietzsche's, Dostoevsky and Solzhenitsyn. He has brought hope and blessings to millions I feel compassion for all of you that hate him, he is one of the most intelligent people that are on earth. He has dedicated his life to helping people and he is hated.
Do what you want its freedom of speech. We see buses driving around that say “ there is probably no God so why not enjoy your life” ……dont be silenced by the haters and the new atheists in their new religion. Remember atheism was the reason for the gulags, the great leap forward and the killing fields. Nietzsche and Dostoevsky both predicted the coming butchery from Stalin, Pot and Mao and the death toll reached from 70-100 million dead. That's 100,000,000 people massacred from three regimes and three men. Remember with “God is Dead” you get bloodshed. The Salem witch trials killed 7 the atheist regimes of the 20th century killed 70 million. Also Alexander Solzenitzyn wrote about the insane evil massacres in his book the “Gulag Archipelago” which is now required reading in Russia and by the way it basically brought down the communist/atheistic soviet union. Atheists many of whom are brilliant and than there are those who have not done the job of atheism and that is the seeking of all knowledge about all claims of this universe beginning. Some atheists are as bad as our Fred Phelps and Kenneth Copeland's. Even though we have our Ravi Zacharias's and Stephen Meyers and John Lennox. keep preaching man Jesus commanded it but be wise, dont throw your pearls to pigs.. Also how can an atheist have an opinion on what good or bad is, is that not just a matter of opinion? From where do they derive their actual morals and values from? Society? well I would hate to be a jew during the German final solution during that time in that warped society, oh and your not like that are you? Wait and see what you go along with, or are you already pro abortion.
Society is best served by the truth and religion is not the truth. The challenge is for weak people to adopt a Philosophy that embraces the truth and yet still sees optimism and hope to move forward despite the dire situation we are all in. This is sometime referred to as the Stockdale paradox, named after Admiral Stockdale a POW from the Vietnam war.
@ChrisHodges87 you have a flaw in your logic. The proof of a diety is unfalsifiable. I'm assuming you use this fact for saying God doesn't exist. That's a scientific fact. The flaw stems from science as well. Anything before the singularity is unfalsifiable too. With both being unfalsifiable we can't do anything but wait for science to catch up. Your "Truth" just went out the window.
In Holy Quran 2:261,And remember when Abraham said, ‘My Lord, show me how Thou givest life to the dead.’ He said, ‘Hast thou not believe?’ He said, ‘Yes, but I ask this so that my heart may be at rest.’ He answered, ‘Take four birds and make them attached to thyself. Then put each of them on a hill; then call them; they will come to thee in haste. And know that Allah is Mighty and Wise.’ Besides the afterlife, there is reference to 4 nations that shall rise and fall in ways know to Allah: 1. Nabi Musa was a Great law- bearing Prophet sent for the tribes of Israel with commandments and verities of wisdom that was suited for the Children of Israel at that stage of spiritual and physical requirements. 2. Prophet Isa (Jesus’ peace be upon Him) was the Messiah sent by God to guide the various Tribes of Israel according to the true teachings of the Torah and with the Gospel. He came about 1300 years after Prophet Musa. 3. The Holy Prophet Muhammed is the Last Great law -bearing prophet sent for the whole of mankind with blessings of spiritual guidance and signaling physical/ economic/ secular/technological blessings. 4. The Promised Messiah Nabi Ahmad was sent by God to guide people to the true teachings of the Holy Quran. In the time of the Promised Messiah there are various spiritual blessings and signaling physical/secular/economic/technological blessings. He arrived about 1300 years after the Holy Prophet.
Mr Peterson is not religious. Hes just recognised that being religious is very profitable atm. Faith cannot be justified through words. Its a sense of feeling not truth.
Yes your right! The theories of evolution and the undeniable fact that life comes from preexisting life shows that evolutionists indeed are in a pretentious circus
@VA-gu1jq thanks, I have a different opinion on the subject of how life came to be on the earth, sometimes sarcasm is appropriate in response to people who know very little about the empty, mindless evolution theories yet belittle the evidence that points the other way
@grayy10k 3 years ago (edited) He's the type of professor where you won't say a WORD in his class. Undivided attention and respect 18K Reply 128 replies this is a comment on Jordan Peterson. Notice the 18k likes in his honor
Do what you want its freedom of speech. We see buses driving around that say “ there is probably no God so why not enjoy your life” ……dont be silenced by the haters and the new atheists in their new religion. Remember atheism was the reason for the gulags, the great leap forward and the killing fields. Nietzsche and Dostoevsky both predicted the coming butchery from Stalin, Pot and Mao and the death toll reached from 70-100 million dead. That's 100,000,000 people massacred from three regimes and three men. Remember with “God is Dead” you get bloodshed. The Salem witch trials killed 7 the atheist regimes of the 20th century killed 70 million. Also Alexander Solzenitzyn wrote about the insane evil massacres in his book the “Gulag Archipelago” which is now required reading in Russia and by the way it basically brought down the communist/atheistic soviet union. Atheists many of whom are brilliant and than there are those who have not done the job of atheism and that is the seeking of all knowledge about all claims of this universe beginning. Some atheists are as bad as our Fred Phelps and Kenneth Copeland's. Even though we have our Ravi Zacharias's and Stephen Meyers and John Lennox. keep preaching man Jesus commanded it but be wise, dont throw your pearls to pigs.. Also how can an atheist have an opinion on what good or bad is, is that not just a matter of opinion? From where do they derive their actual morals and values from? Society? well I would hate to be a jew during the German final solution during that time in that warped society, oh and your not like that are you? Wait and see what you go along with, or are you already pro abortion.
I find Trump to be quite the opposite. Most of his haters being feminists, woke and socialist types. Also did you know atheist socialists are responsible for the most deaths in history, more than all of ww2 combined. Seriously true story. When Mao, Stalin and Pot enacted the killing fields, gulags and great leap forward they killed between 70,000,000 to 100,000,000 people. This all happened after ww2 in China, Cambodia and Russia. Crazy evil thing those atheists did. anyway have a great day. I wish you the best.
Jordan B Peterson. Raised in northern Alberta. Has flown a hammerhead roll in a carbon fiber stunt plane, built a ceremonial brighouse on the top of his home after being invited to by the Canadian first nations people. He has been a dishwasher, gas jockey, bartender, short order cook, bee-keeper, oil derrick re-tipper, plywood mill labourer, and railway line worker. He has taught mythology to lawyers, doctors and business people, consulted for the UN secretary general panel for sustainable development. Dr Peterson has helped his clients to manage depression, obsessive compulsive, anxiety and schizophrenia. Served as an adviser to senior partners in major Canadian law firms. He has identified thousands of entrepreneurs in sixty different countries. He has lectured extensively in europe and north america. He has published more than 100 scientific papers. He is an expert in communism and nazismn. He was a Harvard professor and was nominated for the Levenson teaching prize. His tenure at university of Toronto saw him being considered as one of three truly life changing professors. He is a quora most viewed writer. Dr Peterson has given hope to many who were lost, he has millions of people who attend his lectures on biblical, mythological and religious and psychological themes. He is a beacon for free speech and free expression. His teaching and books were one variable among many that helped me to learn about Nietzsche's, Dostoevsky and Solzhenitsyn. He has brought hope and blessings to millions I feel compassion for all of you that hate him, he is one of the most intelligent people that are on earth. He has dedicated his life to helping people and he is hated.
That happens when you try to defend nonSense(religions) when you confronts wisdom and logic, peterson is good in talking and knock off woke people but not good enough to confront Dawkins a.k.a wisdom and reality
Prof. Dawkins has provided the insight I needed on my path of spiritual growth. Thank you. I still have the letter addressed to his little daughter about different forms of religion on my laptop- comparing different cultures to different kinds of fish in the ocean. I feel a distinct "oneness" with the whole of the natural world - a certain "breath" throughout the universe that cannot be named nor understood - a devine Spirit dwelling in all of creation whom nobody or group of people can claim as his or their own. So, religion has no place in my life. It causes division, confusion and is restrictive.
Thank you for quoting a beautiful letter of prof.Dawkins to his young granddaughter. It's so utterly beautiful!I ❤I love what he expressed+explained to her in that letter .There's nothing more phenomenal than truth and we should stand by the truth. I believe that the whole life is miraculous!
No your wrong he does believe christianity is true. Also Dr Peterson has made millions from his books and speaking engagements. He speaks what he believes and he speaks truth reaching millions. I have seen him in debates with television stations in europe and in the west. I have seen about 7 different videos on youtube where he gave a psychological take on the biblical stories. He spoke to packed auditoriums I saw him lecturing on sumerian myth, nazies, and chaos and order when he taught at universities, I saw him lecturing on m.a.i.d in my country of canada. I saw him lecturing on the atheist/communist soviet union while killed about 70,000,000 people to 100,000,000 people in the great leap forward, killing fields and the gulags. I have seen him interviewed on Joe Rogan twice or three times, I saw him fighting for free speech in my country and I am halfway through reading 12 rules for life. I have learned about history, psychology, religion, myth, nazi germany, communism, genocide, alexander solzhenitsyn, Friedrich Nietzsche, Carl Jung, Sigmund Freud, Dostoyevsky, Jesus, Moses, Abraham, Joshua, The epic of Gilgamesh, the Enumalish, and many other topics. He certainly has given me many helpful practices in my life from thinking to living, and my faith also has been conceptualised to another dynamic. also he encouraged me to get order in my life and as such I cleaned my room I think he is one of the most intelligent men to walk the earth, right up there with Dostoyevsky and Chris Langene. thanks for your question. hope your having as good a day as I am from canada
Peterson is smart enough to understand what is being asked, but too dishonest to give a true answer.
Exactly
Yup… nothing more than a gameshow host.
JP is a dangerous MF! A lot of young men were following him. Don’t know if that’s still the case. Hopefully NOT!
That is actually an interesting observation/opinion!
he cant answer it cos his wifes a catholic 🤣🤣he'll get in trouble
Dawkins to Jordan at the dinner table: Can you please pass me the salt?
Jordan answers: "Ah, you see, when you ask me if I can pass the salt, it’s deceptively simple, but it opens up a profound question. Because, on the surface, yes, I can pass the salt. But that’s the mundane layer. Beneath it, there's a much older, more mythological narrative at play."
"To pass the salt is to participate in a shared ritual, a gesture of communion and trust. But in a way, it’s also about confronting and taming something primal-let’s say, a dragon. And why a dragon? Because a dragon, in myth, represents chaos, the unknown, a threat to order. When we engage in these simple acts-like passing salt-we’re enacting a kind of symbolic victory over that chaos. In medieval iconography, knights slay dragons not just as a feat of strength but as a victory of civilization over the wilderness, of meaning over the void."
"Salt itself is a symbol with dual aspects: preservation and decay. It can ward off rot but, in excess, it can corrode. To handle it, to pass it, is to confront that paradox head-on, a bit like facing the dragon. It’s like looking into the unknown and saying, 'I am willing to take on this responsibility, to bring order to the chaos around me.' In a small way, each act like this is a slaying of that dragon, a small victory for civilization and meaning over the forces that threaten to break them down."
Passes the salt with a solemn look, as though entrusting you with a quest.
Hands over salt shaker.
Loved reading this, had me smiling. You should have put-
Dawkins says ‘don’t worry, I’ll get it’
At the end 😂
Brilliant.
You lose points for not using the phrase ‘metaphysical substrate.’
😂 oh my gosh, did you just write this?! This is pretty ingenious, and it made me smile and laugh. You’ve made me miss writing and being creative like this.
I will be praying for you and I hope that you believe in Jesus! If you don’t, maybe the end times prophecies will compel you to pray and ask God to show you the truth. Because the world is looking very much like the way the Bible said it would in the last days.
I say all of this with love, honestly I do and I hope that you’re having a wonderful day and I will pray for you right now! (I’m also always willing to respectfully discuss/debate this subject if that’s something you would be interested in!)
Peterson talking is insufferable.
The fact Peterson won't directly answer it is the answer.
Peterson is not a religious scholar, and his admission is just him being honest. I wish he was better versed then he is in biblical debate topics so he had confidence in going head to head with Dawkins on his ridiculous questions and statements... Personally I would destroy Dawkins and people like him with factual scientific truths fired right back at them when they try and be smug.
Really Simple...
Dawkins: Do you believe in virgin birth??
Me: yes I do... And thanks to modern science, namely IVF, humans are playing God and doing what only God could do previously. I also believe in reconstruction surgeries using the rib and associated bodily material, namely stem cells, that are now being used in modern medicine practices to regrow all parts of the human body FROM A RIB BONE, which by the way regenerates itself if it is removed surgically. So I believe the creation story that is detailed in Genesis more so then I do any current "theory" detailed in modern "science" text books.
@@firstlast9478Dawkins would absolutely destroy you with hard facts.
@@PhysicsGuy1000
with "hard facts"... Like what?? Try me...
Put forward any hard facts that you want me to reply to and I will happily oblige your curiosity as to what the debate would look like, and i am pretty confident that I will have you covered, using the scientific method of course (namely observable, repeatable, measurable experiments, and Occam's razor) for all my positions.
I'm happy to respond to:
The Bible in general.
the bible vs science. Although this will require us defining what "science", "the scientific method", & "religious science or science as a religion" are in order to discuss who has taken the scientific position, and who is shouting religious dogma. (Trust me, the religious dogma is what Dawkins et al (Brian Cox, Neil de gras Tyson, Bill Nye, etc) use all the time).
Creation of the universe, big bang theory vs intelligently designed creation according to Genesis. And how big bang theory is taken from the Genesis account and modified.
Shape of the universe, being either the theoretical, big-bang, helio-centric, globe-earth, Darwinian-evolutionary model, vs other models of the universe, namely Genesis creation, and or simulation theory, and or multiverse theory, including the theory of relativity, etc, models.
Darwinian Evolution vs biblical creation. Including real evolution and corruption, the great flood reset, population of the earth from Adam and Eve, and then from Noah and his descendants. Stating scientific observations and mathematical possibilities and probabilities for both in order to compare and discuss the chance of each possibility being actually true and correct.
Evolution: modern science vs the bible:
- Which side keeps changing their theories / opinions / lies, and which side has been consistent since it was written down the first time?
- From rocks to all life on earth.
- random mutation vs intelligent design.
- from "1x pair of Adam & Eve couples" to today's populations for all animal species in existence today.
- new species requirements for evolution to exist and then to procreate and replicate, and dominate, or at least survive and differentiate. eg from a random Adam (male) and a random Eve (female) mutation, at the same time in history, within 1-5km of each other, both mutations being fertile, and then successfully mateing to produce viable male and female offspring to then continue the new species genetic code, for each and every species on earth, including all the in between species that no longer exist, the time it takes for 1x random mutation, the probably of having 2x random mutations side by side in terms of time in history and location geographically, and both being of opposite breedable sex and gender, etc, basically equals Darwinian Evolution is mathematically impossible, as the time frames are to big for evolution to occur, but also at the same time, the time frames are to small for evolution to occur, it's a double whammy.
- reverse engineering evolution, specifically being the reverse engineering of the human eye. Let's try to prove evolution to be true and correct by providing a reverse engineering approach of the human eye. I need you to nominate which part of the eye you want to remove from the evolutionary process last, being reverse chronological order, first. With the options being: the eye sockets, the eye lids, the eye lashes, the eye brows, the optic nerve, the brain, the eye muscles, the eye tendons, the tear ducts, the tears, the veins arteries and capillaries, the blood, the red cells, the white cells, the plasma, the iron and the oxygen, the water and the glucose, the electrolytes, and the waste, or the eye ball itself?? Then within the eyeball, we have the the actual eyeball tissue, the iris (including melanin), the pupil, the cornea, the lens, and the retina (including rods and cones), etc.
This is of course noting that the human eye can only see about 0.0035% of the electromagnetic spectrum, being the part we call visible light, which lies between the infra-red & ultra-violet wave lengths.
- reverse engineering evolution, being the reverse engineering of any complex life form, eg a human being, or any mammal, any aquatic mammal, any bird, any insect, any fish, any other animal species (you can choose) and also any flowering plant, and any other plant (you can choose).
The history of the current "scientific" theories that are being taught in modern education systems world wide, and why they are based on an intentional lie(s), what the reason(s) for the lie(s) are, how they orchestrated these lies.
The great hoaxes of space travel, NASA, the moon missions, the ISS, red bull space jump, etc.
What this mis-information means in the world today?
Please don't run and hide behind the internet, please make the effort to stand and fight and try to defend your position and your comment you made about Dawkins having any chance against a brain like mine, as I believe my IQ is far superior to his in pretty much every aspect of which IQ is measured.
@@PhysicsGuy1000
Can you please explain the physics of the moon to me, as I am having trouble understanding the actual physics of how the moon travels and also the effects of the moon's gravity on earth.
For this physics lesson, can you please just focus on the axial rotation of the moon, and the orbital path of the moonz and explain the physics of the moon's movements and how this trajectory is possible and maintainable for 1000s of observable years in human history.
Please disregard the theoretical physics that claim the movement of the solar system as a whole throughout the Milky way galaxy, and movement of the Milky way galaxy as a whole through the universe for this discussion.
Also with regards to the moon, can you please explain how the earth's tides are affected by the moon's gravity given that:
- gravity of earth is 9.80m.s^2,
- gravity of moon is 1.62m.s^2,
- diameter of earth is 12,800km,
- diameter of moon is 3,500km,
- distance of moon from earth is 384,400km,
- distance of moon's centre of gravity to the surface of earth's water bodies is 386,150km,
- distance of earth's centre of gravity to the surface of earth's water bodies is 6,400km,
- maximum acceleration / deceleration of an OTIS lift car is 0.5-1.0m.s^2 which is clearly observable to all peoples who have ever ridden a high-rise lift car.
Also please explain how come we as humans being 75% water, can not perceive the moon's gravity or the earth's gravity seeing that these accelerative forces are far superior to the accelerative forces exerted on a human body when riding a lift car, which is easily perceived by the human body??
My understanding of the physics is that the moon should be spinning on it's axis at a far greater rate then it is, in order to continue on its orbital path around the earth.
The earth rotates once every 24 hours, and it rotates 365 times per single complete orbit, giving a ratio of 365:1.
While the moon rotates once every ~28 days, and it rotates only 1 time per single complete orbit, giving it a ratio of 1:1.
To make this imagery simple, I will refer to baseball pitches, namely the curve ball, and the knuckle ball. With the earth and all celestial bodies acting according to the physics of a curve ball, while the moon's physics is that of a knuckle ball... So why doesn't the moon act according to the physics of its supposed observable movements??
@@firstlast9478 you wouldn't be able to destroy anyone if you try to argue in favor of fairy tales against reality. And you clearly can't even grasp the concept of scale.
I love how he dances around a simple question to avoid upsetting his conservative christian fanbase
That's exactly what he's doing. Pivoting to proclaiming the "values" of Christianity is simply a grift.
Best comment for me👍🏻
That’s a bingo!
very accurately said
word salad
Peterson can talk for hours and yet say nothing.
Well that depends on what you mean by talk for hours and yet say nothing? Because the thing is "what other choice do you have?".
But he's passionate. And sadly it's all about the "feels" these days.
@@JohnnystammyYeah, just like that.
What do you mean by "can" , what do you mean by "talk" and what do you mean by "nothing"
All he does is obfuscate. The more he talks, the more he obfuscates.
I'd hate to ask him for directions
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He's the type of professor where you won't say a WORD in his class. Undivided attention and respect
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@@planes3333 Sure, but most certainly not on this subject. He's like a fish out of water here.
@@leebode4643 Well he is dealing with Dawkins who IMHO is a total fool, he has some intelligence but he is a liar and he is contradictory and petty, rude and cruel.
Dawkins is royal in his simplicity. Love him. No fancy stuff. Straight to the point. Gorgeous.
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How does Dawkins explain the birth of time, space and matter coming into existence at the same time? Its kind of an odd thing to think about the birth of time though I must admit. Must be some amazing power to create such a thing as blue whales, stars, humans and DNA, amazing world isnt it.
No fancy stuff... except for that magnificent tie he's wearing.
@@planes3333 Certainly. Some amazing power. The kind of power that doesn't give a damn about your sex life, about prayers, about your "sins", or about absurd "divine" theories tiny humans have
Do what you want its freedom of speech.
We see buses driving around that say “ there is probably no God so why not enjoy your life” ……dont be silenced by the haters and the new atheists in their new religion.
Remember atheism was the reason for the gulags, the great leap forward and the killing fields.
Nietzsche and Dostoevsky both predicted the coming butchery from Stalin, Pot and Mao and the death toll reached from 70-100 million dead. That's 100,000,000 people massacred from three regimes and three men.
Remember with “God is Dead” you get bloodshed. The Salem witch trials killed 7 the atheist regimes of the 20th century killed 70 million.
Also Alexander Solzenitzyn wrote about the insane evil massacres in his book the “Gulag Archipelago” which is now required reading in Russia and by the way it basically brought down the communist/atheistic soviet union.
Atheists many of whom are brilliant and than there are those who have not done the job of atheism and that is the seeking of all knowledge about all claims of this universe beginning.
Some atheists are as bad as our Fred Phelps and Kenneth Copeland's.
Even though we have our Ravi Zacharias's and Stephen Meyers and John Lennox.
keep preaching man
Jesus commanded it but be wise, dont throw your pearls to pigs..
Also how can an atheist have an opinion on what good or bad is, is that not just a matter of opinion? From where do they derive their actual morals and values from? Society? well I would hate to be a jew during the German final solution during that time in that warped society, oh and your not like that are you? Wait and see what you go along with, or are you already pro abortion.
As a retired prosecutor, i would say, "Motion to strike everything he just said in the last 5 minutes for failure to respond to a simple yes, no question."
Perfect example of the phrase, "if you can't dazzle them with your brilliance, baffle them with bullshit."
Christopher Hitchens wouldn’t have been as kind as Dawkins. I would have loved to have witnessed that debate.
The late and great Christopher Hitchens would have floored and ruined Petersons career.
I was thinking exactly that while watching this 😂 im actually glad I don’t have to see it because I quite like Peterson, but Hitchens would destroy him.
Hitchens spent his who life using his voice to curse God and Jesus! interesting that he acquired throat cancer and died.
I guess God shut him right up.
Interesting thing is that his brother converted and became a christian and he is doing great. Though I must confess smoking didnt help poor Christopher Hitchens esophagus either.
Hopefully Hitchens repented in his last breaths. Hopefully he did not end up like Darwin, Lavey, Crowley and Voltaire.
Jesus is KING
@@planes3333 he pointed out the irony of that himself while simultaneously saying it was obviously just a coincidence. Which is exactly what it is. There is no God and no genuinely intelligent person believes there is.
Believing in something with absolutely no proof is the mark of an idiot
@@planes3333 Interesting that your God prioritizes taking out Hitchens over Putin. You should be ashamed of yourself. Provide an argument or do the thing you claimed your insecure God personally did.
"Do you believe in God?" Dawkins: "No" Petersen:
The more I see of Jordan Peterson in interviews, the more I'm not impressed with his evasive answers and views.
@@nofairytales5604 Hmmm interesting.
Have you ever thought about studying the things he studies and then refuting him and perhaps taking the spotlight away from him?
You could be super rich and famous like he is, just disprove what he is saying.
@@planes3333 Hmmm, uninteresting.
@@terri6854 LOL
@@terri6854 Hmmmmmmmm very interesting.
The video is basically 16 minutes of trying to get Jordan to answer a yes or no question directly. Still hasn’t been answered
The question is always being answered forever
Can you answer me yes or no question: Does your family know you're gay?
@@jacksonelmore622711/29/2024 - The sad reality is that millions of people believe the BS that men like Peterson spew. If I heard him correctly, Peterson actually answered “I don’t know” when asked whether Jesus had a father? Of course, that answer reveals that Peterson believes that a woman is capable of bearing a child without having intercourse with a man. If, as the Christians believe, Jesus was God‘s begotten son, that means God had intercourse with Mary, which means that got debauched Mary, who was engaged to Mary Joseph. How sick is that?
I think Petersen was being honest, not deceptive. Dawkins was asking the question from one perspective on reality, one that minimizes the importance of story and myth to human evolution, and Petersen was trying to answer it from his understanding of the world as a place in which the Mystery expresses itself through story and myth. So his answer of "I don't know" is perfectly appropriate, given the above.
@@bolence85 Your question is flawed, it’s a loaded question fallacy because you’re already assuming the person is gay. The real question here is how the hell does the question asked in the video relate in any shape or form to your loaded question? There are no assumptions in the question asked in the video, so it’s not a loaded question and can be answered with yes, no, or I don’t know, instead Peterson tried to make the matter much deeper than simply saying ‘I do not know’ which really makes me doubt if he really doesn’t know the answer or he is simply not being honest because he has a lot of right wing audience that are proudly religious that he is not trying to upset
Listen to the voices, the way people speak betrays how they feel. One voice is high and agitated and squeaky. The other voices low calm and slow. It's a very clear message about how people are confident and stable.
And the irony is JP is a psychologist.
@@arunnaik3375 He's no doubt very bright and well-read. But the comparison is there to hear. Many other bright thinkers speak so fast (it's hard to control if you're a fast thinker) but communication and clarity come from paced speech and groundedness.
@@briankehew579Ah! yes, you make a cogent observation. Jordan Peterson stands as a bright luminary within the defined sphere of his chosen discipline, psychology-a mind acute, reflective, and adept at distilling the labyrinthine patterns of human thought into forms palatable to the earnest seeker. Yet brightness, dazzling as it may be, is no errant flash but rather a carefully tended flame, its brilliance nurtured atop a tower painstakingly built-brick by brick-through the labor of study, observation, and immersion in the broad currents of human knowledge.
On the matter of communication, the art of pause, the deliberate pacing of speech, tempers this tempest into a steady breeze, carrying clarity and connection in its measured flow. For it is in the spaces between words where meaning breathes, and in the rhythm of expression that understanding roots itself. Swiftness may dazzle, but pacing dignifies and deepens the exchange.
However, when Peterson steps beyond the walls of his well-fortified discipline and into the expansive territories of religion, his footing falters. The beacon of his intellect, while commendable, reveals gaps in its foundation, unable to fully illuminate the vast landscapes of history, theology, metaphysics, and the lived depths of spiritual tradition. Religion, a domain woven with threads of eternity and mortality, requires an erudition and humility that surpass the lens of psychological archetypes. Here, Peterson moves not as a seasoned voyager but as a novice, his insights engaging yet confined by a circumscribed understanding.
That he-or indeed many who walk similar paths-might overlook the antiquity of motifs such as the *virgin birth* or the *resurrection* speaks volumes of their limitations. These themes, far from being confined to a single narrative or faith, echo through the mythologies of Egypt, Greece, Rome, India, China, and beyond. They are archetypes of the human spirit, symbols as old as wonder itself, marking the perennial attempt to touch the divine. To neglect this universality is to misstep, to reduce the timeless to the merely topical.
@@briankehew579 No doubt, Jordan Peterson is a bright luminary within the defined sphere of his chosen discipline, psychology-a mind acute, reflective, and adept at distilling the labyrinthine patterns of human thought into forms palatable to the earnest seeker. Yet brightness, dazzling as it may be, is no errant flash but rather a carefully tended flame, its brilliance nurtured atop a tower painstakingly built-brick by brick-through the labor of study, observation, and immersion in the broad currents of human knowledge.
On the matter of communication, I align with your view: many a swift thinker scatters their insights like a gale tossing leaves, heedless of whether the audience can gather them. The art of pause, the deliberate pacing of speech, tempers this tempest into a steady breeze, carrying clarity and connection in its measured flow. For it is in the spaces between words where meaning breathes, and in the rhythm of expression that understanding roots itself. Swiftness may dazzle, but pacing dignifies and deepens the exchange.
However, when Peterson steps beyond the walls of his well-fortified discipline and into the expansive territories of religion, his footing falters. The beacon of his intellect, while commendable, reveals gaps in its foundation, unable to fully illuminate the vast landscapes of history, theology, metaphysics, and the lived depths of spiritual tradition. Religion, a domain woven with threads of eternity and mortality, requires an erudition and humility that surpass the lens of psychological archetypes. Here, Peterson moves not as a seasoned voyager but as a novice, his insights engaging yet confined by a circumscribed understanding.
That he-or indeed many who walk similar paths-might overlook the antiquity of motifs such as the *virgin birth* or the *resurrection* speaks volumes of their limitations. These themes, far from being confined to a single narrative or faith, echo through the mythologies of Egypt, Greece, Rome, India, China, and beyond. They are archetypes of the human spirit, symbols as old as wonder itself, marking the perennial attempt to touch the divine. To neglect this universality is to misstep, to reduce the timeless to the merely topical. Let such bright thinkers, then, ground their brilliance in a wider understanding, for even the most luminous tower benefits from broader horizons.
@@briankehew579 Agreed. But Peterson often draws on simplified interpretations of religious texts and concepts, sometimes relying on secondary sources or popularized versions rather than engaging deeply with primary sources and academic scholarship. His analysis tends to concentrate heavily on specific texts like the Bible, particularly the Old Testament, while neglecting the nuances and diversity within Christianity and other major religious traditions. He sometimes selectively utilizes religious texts and interpretations to support his own pre-existing views, potentially leading to biased or incomplete understandings.
This critique does not necessarily invalidate Peterson's overall message or his insights into human psychology and culture. However, a more nuanced understanding of world religions is crucial for a deeper and more accurate engagement with the complex issues he addresses.
Dawkins: do you believe in Jesus?
Peterson: well, quantum physics ..bla bla
What do you mean by “do”?
And what do you mean by “you”?
And what do you mean by “believe”
And what do you mean by “in”?
And what do you mean by “Jesus”?
And what do you mean by your question mark?
Dawkins doesn't get excited 1 time. Peterson is all emotion.
If we dont know, whats the meaning of a word, we cant talk exactly @DivineHellas
@@AdamIlluminati23 what do you mean by “if”
And what do you mean by “we”
And what do you mean by “don’t”
And what do you mean by “know”
@DivineHellas I See, you're not interested in truth. You just interested in beeing blind.
Dawkins: "Did this thing happen?"
Peterson: "I don't feel qualified to say if it happened but I know it happened."
It reminds me of that Ancient Aliens guy: "I'm not saying it was aliens, but it was aliens..." 😂
@@JustSomeGuy "it depends on who's paying my salary"
Btw big fan of ur channel
Is that your answer to the question that you don't know?
JP
Blah blah blah I'm not qualified to answer that question because my knowledge ends there!
To me it seems more "I do not believe it happened, but saying so would undermine my appeal to a large portion of my paying fan base, so I must deflect at all costs".
Feynman said that if you understand something well enough to explain it simply e.g. to schoolchildren, then you truly understand the subject. This makes Peterson an expert in nothing.
That’s gold 👌
An intellectual is supposed to take complex ideas and explain them simply. Most intellectuals take simple ideas and explain them complexly.
When I was studying Electrical engineering my instructor said " An expert is someone who knows more and more about less and less until he knows absolutely everything about nothing." Maybe he'd met Peterson?
@@waukivorycopse2402😂😂
This reminds me of one of my favourite quotes from the physicist Paul Dirac... "The aim of science is to make difficult things understandable in a simpler way; the aim of poetry is to state simple things in an incomprehensible way. The two are incompatible."
Richard chose that tie very carefully
I find Jordan to be utterly exhausting. He simply cannot answer a simple question directly.
"I don’t know how to mediate the fact value dichotomy in that case"
what a bullshit artist .
Totally agree
Peterson is a classic charlatan. He's making millions of dollars doing speaking tours to mindless "intellectual types".
A politician. 🙄
JP is about to enter a world of hurt when he can bo longer play Trudeau's victim when the Conservatives win the next federal election.
Oh, he's great, legendary on his strengths. Religion/logical anaylis of religion is *not* one of his strengths.
Listening to Peterson try to answer a question by just waffling for 15 minutes on a tangent is absolutely exhausting!
That’s his intention.
Another moron using "the weave" and winding up nowhere.
I find it harder and harder to listen to his intentional rambling. I used to have SOME respect for him but not so much anymore. I just see him as mostly dishonest intellectually.
Richard is so patient to put up with him.
JP is just another apologist evangelist. Which all of those types just throw out word salads and try to sound smart
Peterson was humiliated. He did NOT reply to the question.
He did not reply to the question, but he also doesn’t realize it, ergo he is not humiliated
If he replies in the affirnative he looks like a religious nut, and serious people will dismiss him. If he responds in the negative he looses his hyper religious audience members patronage
@@JackeryPumpkin He is not self humiliated, but he is humiliated to any non religious sober person.
@@InnovativeSustainableSolutions You are 100% right. But, a Clinical Psychologist should answer to the question and not care about PR.
Peterson rarely replies to the questions. Rather, he diverts, under the guise of making a related point, but, as virtually everyone who feels bludgeoned by his word salads, tedium sets in long before the question is actually addressed or answered.
Peterson is the only person who could be asked the most relevant, on topic question and still spend more time arguing it's invalidity rather than actually answering the question
Peterson is one of the best charlatans of last century. No 1 would be Deepak Chopra.
Spot on
The rate at which Peterson's going over the last few years he might just give Deepak Chopra a run for his money.
True that 👍
lol, 100%. but some of Peterson's old talks were great - like the Peter Pan one. But now he's ego-maniac climate change denier Andrew Tate lover
I see your Peterson and Chopra, I raise you an Elon Musk and a Donald Trump.
(And I have a Boris Johnson hidden up my sleeve).
When a psuedo-intellectual has to actually defend himself against actual intellectuals... golden video. Well done to Alex, he did so well.
You're projecting the fact that Dawkins is the pseudointellectual to Peterson and you're further embarrassing yourself by hilariously coping and seething. You're malding, you're seething you're graying and coping.
@@greekmacedonianwegreeksare6035Quite the contrary. Dawkins is the intellectual.
Peterson is a post modernist. In that I mean he talks in riddles that don’t always make sense. Being obfuscatious and trying to sound profound by confusing the lay man person. Much of his discussion or answers are vacuous while using superfluous language. He doesn’t want to offend his religious followers and dances around the issue without actually giving a meaningful answer. Einstein said genius is the ability of saying something complex in a simple way. Peterson does quite the opposite. He sounds like Foucault who himself was full of crap yet revered by his followers.
@@cvdavis Nope, you actually can't sound more than 100% ridiculous, Dawkins is literally a hypocrite who actually in fact delusionally believes that he got from Christianity "virtually nothing" while he definitely didn't take nothing from it and most definitely didn't take virtually nothing from it either since still his fundamental morality stems from Christianity he likes it or not and usually he argues very laughably and very pendatically about it (for example: *"In Victorian era Christianity we didn't work in the Sabbath now we do."* because he still knows the fact and everyone truthfully knows the fact he would be quintessentially identyless and morally empty with the very fundamental Christian morals. Like it or not, your really ridiculous nonsense deconstruvism mania and early era degeneracy is literally nothing but still you massive psychological complex you have for Christ and a product of a very bygone era. Christianity in fact got STRONGER than ever.
You're are deeply delusional and spiritually moronic and it shows in fact from your fanciful nonsensical ramblings that definitely characterize your psychotic wird salads of words you toss around and don't understand that you are little in the mimd yet and you don't have it with the logic, you have black midnights. You have confused your own thighs in the fanciful word salads you toss around.
I will advise you to pay attention to the "C" letter which stands for Christ you have for a photo on your profile instead of writing me your tirade of the skull you just wrote me. Take good care of it, as you're still a child yet overemotionally sensitive and seeking your mother, this is actually you breaking in melancholic tears from your little heart for need of a cuddle and and athe hug of the mother you definitely lacked and never got. At the eternal darkness it will be in need for you but that I haven't told it is that this will not be there. Ante and good masonic ceremonies for you children to have. hint: you're not faithless, you simply believe in yourself you believe, meaning, in nothing, to one speck of sand and this is, dear, is called stupidity.
@@greekmacedonianwegreeksare6035And I'd say you are projecting and who the feck is coping and seething in these comments..
As legendary comedian Ricky Gervais once said: Remember kids, if you don't sin, then Jesus died for nothing.
Awesome!
Hahaha remember that line. So kids just sin away 😅
I love that line
As a Christian yes obviously, Jesus died (for our sins), thus why no one but Christ is without sin, you’re not saying anything that is not already known even the Bible speaks of what you wrote
“For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh: that the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit. For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace. Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be. So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.”
Romans 8:3-8
@@japexican007 Hmm the bible has no mention of Ricky Gervais saying 'Remember kids, if you don't sin, then Jesus died for nothing'.
The reason JP goes on and on and around the question is because it’s simple… the answer for him is “I want to believe it is true”… and he likely hears himself saying that answer and knows that immediately ends debate… so instead, he does his best to take 1000 detours. Really appreciated them both for holding him accountable to that. I rarely see it done that well!
Jordan B Peterson. Raised in northern Alberta. Has flown a hammerhead roll in a carbon fiber stunt plane, built a ceremonial brighouse on the top of his home after being invited to by the Canadian first nations people.
He has been a dishwasher, gas jockey, bartender, short order cook, bee-keeper, oil derrick re-tipper, plywood mill labourer, and railway line worker.
He has taught mythology to lawyers, doctors and business people, consulted for the UN secretary general panel for sustainable development.
Dr Peterson has helped his clients to manage depression, obsessive compulsive, anxiety and schizophrenia.
Served as an adviser to senior partners in major Canadian law firms.
He has identified thousands of entrepreneurs in sixty different countries.
He has lectured extensively in europe and north america.
He has published more than 100 scientific papers.
He is an expert in communism and nazismn.
He was a Harvard professor and was nominated for the Levenson teaching prize.
His tenure at university of Toronto saw him being considered as one of three truly life changing professors.
He is a quora most viewed writer.
Dr Peterson has given hope to many who were lost, he has millions of people who attend his lectures on biblical, mythological and religious and psychological themes.
He is a beacon for free speech and free expression.
His teaching and books were one variable among many that helped me to learn about Nitchzes, Dostoyevsky and Solzhenitsyn. He has brought hope and blessings to millions
I feel compassion for all of you that hate him, he is one of the most intelligent people that are on earth.
He has dedicated his life to helping people and he is hated.
Richard is just a logical and truthful as he has ever been.
Peterson is playing the game of keeping hold to a fanbase.
That's how I see it too.
Peterson is trained in the art of Zionism
Also, although RD's much older (83) he looks mentally youthful, bright and clear whereas JP (62) seems senile in his incoherent ramblings.
Try to think conceptually a bit more boys.
Petersen is a grifter. Like Stephanie Cupp or Bill Maher
Wow, how did JP ever get such a mesmeric hold over people? 'Talking Loud, Saying Nothing' has never rung truer.
Because he's funded by the Zionists.
He wasn't always like this. Before he got sick his words seemed to be hitting homeruns all the time.
For the same reason Rhonda Byrne conned millions with her book "The secret". People are morons.
He made a connection with young men that felt like they were being pushed out of every last relevant conversation in the social environment. He taught many young men how to stand up for themselves and that being proud and strong isn't wrong. This came at a time when we were being told we were the great evil of the world. He just happened to say relevant things at the right time. He had said them for years before, but it wasn't the issue it is now. His religious stances aren't as popular, he is too wish washy for most people of the faith, yet too adherent for the atheist community.
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Christ... that was a tough watch. I don't think I can ever listen to Peterson again 😂
hallef-inluiah
He's yelling and delusional!
Athiesm is im-morality. Jesus came to bring light to this world 🙏🔥
@@ryngrd1 "Atheism is immorality" is a ludicrous statement.
Atheists base their morals on what they truly feel is right and wrong. Religious people base their morals on the fear of punishment. Religious people are immoral.
@@ryngrd1 You need help, dude. And I don't mean with spelling.
Peterson nailed it! "There are elements of the text I don't feel qualified to comment on." 🤣
Richard Please dont waste any more time on Jordan
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Do what you want its freedom of speech.
We see buses driving around that say “ there is probably no God so why not enjoy your life” ……dont be silenced by the haters and the new atheists in their new religion.
Remember atheism was the reason for the gulags, the great leap forward and the killing fields.
Nietzsche and Dostoevsky both predicted the coming butchery from Stalin, Pot and Mao and the death toll reached from 70-100 million dead. That's 100,000,000 people massacred from three regimes and three men.
Remember with “God is Dead” you get bloodshed. The Salem witch trials killed 7 the atheist regimes of the 20th century killed 70 million.
Also Alexander Solzenitzyn wrote about the insane evil massacres in his book the “Gulag Archipelago” which is now required reading in Russia and by the way it basically brought down the communist/atheistic soviet union.
Atheists many of whom are brilliant and than there are those who have not done the job of atheism and that is the seeking of all knowledge about all claims of this universe beginning.
Some atheists are as bad as our Fred Phelps and Kenneth Copeland's.
Even though we have our Ravi Zacharias's and Stephen Meyers and John Lennox.
keep preaching man
Jesus commanded it but be wise, dont throw your pearls to pigs..
Also how can an atheist have an opinion on what good or bad is, is that not just a matter of opinion? From where do they derive their actual morals and values from? Society? well I would hate to be a jew during the German final solution during that time in that warped society, oh and your not like that are you? Wait and see what you go along with, or are you already pro abortion.
Hey Jordan: yelling doesn't make your weak and sometimes absurd arguments any better. If you wanna believe in magic with zero supporting evidence, please do so quietly. As the saying goes, it's better to keep quiet and let people wonder if you're brilliant than to speak up and remove all doubt.
@@stormriderkaos Do what you want its freedom of speech.
We see buses driving around that say “ there is probably no God so why not enjoy your life” ……dont be silenced by the haters and the new atheists in their new religion.
Remember atheism was the reason for the gulags, the great leap forward and the killing fields.
Nietzsche and Dostoevsky both predicted the coming butchery from Stalin, Pot and Mao and the death toll reached from 70-100 million dead. That's 100,000,000 people massacred from three regimes and three men.
Remember with “God is Dead” you get bloodshed. The Salem witch trials killed 7 the atheist regimes of the 20th century killed 70 million.
Also Alexander Solzenitzyn wrote about the insane evil massacres in his book the “Gulag Archipelago” which is now required reading in Russia and by the way it basically brought down the communist/atheistic soviet union.
Atheists many of whom are brilliant and than there are those who have not done the job of atheism and that is the seeking of all knowledge about all claims of this universe beginning.
Some atheists are as bad as our Fred Phelps and Kenneth Copeland's.
Even though we have our Ravi Zacharias's and Stephen Meyers and John Lennox.
keep preaching man
Jesus commanded it but be wise, dont throw your pearls to pigs..
Also how can an atheist have an opinion on what good or bad is, is that not just a matter of opinion? From where do they derive their actual morals and values from? Society? well I would hate to be a jew during the German final solution during that time in that warped society, oh and your not like that are you? Wait and see what you go along with, or are you already pro abortion.
@@jacobskovolsen9099 it’s not time wasting. Richard is a grifter making gains from this. You’re an idiot if you think this is beneath him. Also, Peterson is way smarter than you.
The way each of the three sits, moves and carries themselves in the conversation is very revealing. One is agitated and defensive, to the point of convulsion and shouting. The others are calm and in control of themselves and the actual discussion.
Jordan B Peterson. Raised in northern Alberta. Has flown a hammerhead roll in a carbon fiber stunt plane, built a ceremonial brighouse on the top of his home after being invited to by the Canadian first nations people.
He has been a dishwasher, gas jockey, bartender, short order cook, bee-keeper, oil derrick re-tipper, plywood mill labourer, and railway line worker.
He has taught mythology to lawyers, doctors and business people, consulted for the UN secretary general panel for sustainable development.
Dr Peterson has helped his clients to manage depression, obsessive compulsive, anxiety and schizophrenia.
Served as an adviser to senior partners in major Canadian law firms.
He has identified thousands of entrepreneurs in sixty different countries.
He has lectured extensively in europe and north america.
He has published more than 100 scientific papers.
He is an expert in communism and nazismn.
He was a Harvard professor and was nominated for the Levenson teaching prize.
His tenure at university of Toronto saw him being considered as one of three truly life changing professors.
He is a quora most viewed writer.
Dr Peterson has given hope to many who were lost, he has millions of people who attend his lectures on biblical, mythological and religious and psychological themes.
He is a beacon for free speech and free expression.
His teaching and books were one variable among many that helped me to learn about Nietzsche's, Dostoevsky and Solzhenitsyn. He has brought hope and blessings to millions
I feel compassion for all of you that hate him, he is one of the most intelligent people that are on earth.
He has dedicated his life to helping people and he is hated.
Peterson: ""I can't account for what the fundamental reality and significance of the notion of resurrection is - my knowledge ends."
Peterson Translator : "I want to believe resurrection is true but I know that it cannot possibly be and my ego and reputation will be ruined if I admit this"
😂😂😂 Yes!
If he won't admit Christ was resurrected, he is not a Christian.
@@yoshkebenstadapandora1181 good statement or question.
In terms of Christianity and the resurrection and where Peterson’s knowledge ends… that’s where his faith is supposed to kick in… which he showed none of today.
Thanks captain O
Sounds like he’s saying “I don’t know,” which sounds honest to me.
Thanks!
While we may never know what Jordan truly believes in, we can be certain brevity is not among them.
Well we all know what Peterson believes in. He believes in having nice things for Jordan Peterson. So he will sell snake oil to those who are willing to buy. His love for fancy suits is so revealing.
Rule 10: Be imprecise and meandering.
He believes in prolonging his career
Of course, sophistry is all he has going.
Jordan has zero responsibility to cater to people with short attention to short attention spans and a desire for yes no answers. Only idiots think in black and white.
Part of Jordan Peterson's schtick that gets so tiring is his lecturing tone. The less he has to say the angrier and more long-winded he becomes.
You can see the blood vessels in his face popping out
He's so bloody emotional about everything
Well said
Do what you want its freedom of speech.
We see buses driving around that say “ there is probably no God so why not enjoy your life” ……dont be silenced by the haters and the new atheists in their new religion.
Remember atheism was the reason for the gulags, the great leap forward and the killing fields.
Nietzsche and Dostoevsky both predicted the coming butchery from Stalin, Pot and Mao and the death toll reached from 70-100 million dead. That's 100,000,000 people massacred from three regimes and three men.
Remember with “God is Dead” you get bloodshed. The Salem witch trials killed 7 the atheist regimes of the 20th century killed 70 million.
Also Alexander Solzenitzyn wrote about the insane evil massacres in his book the “Gulag Archipelago” which is now required reading in Russia and by the way it basically brought down the communist/atheistic soviet union.
Atheists many of whom are brilliant and than there are those who have not done the job of atheism and that is the seeking of all knowledge about all claims of this universe beginning.
Some atheists are as bad as our Fred Phelps and Kenneth Copeland's.
Even though we have our Ravi Zacharias's and Stephen Meyers and John Lennox.
keep preaching man
Jesus commanded it but be wise, dont throw your pearls to pigs..
Also how can an atheist have an opinion on what good or bad is, is that not just a matter of opinion? From where do they derive their actual morals and values from? Society? well I would hate to be a jew during the German final solution during that time in that warped society, oh and your not like that are you? Wait and see what you go along with, or are you already pro abortion.
the more he starts blabbing to distract you.
Jordan reminds me of a teenager that finally realized the fantasy of religion but doesn't want to disappoint his parents.
He reminds me of a player trying to impress some young girl.
Yeah the style of this discussion is like two disappointed schoolteachers talking to a bad student that keeps lying and making excuses.
He has given me excellent direction in life. Try reading twelve rules for life. There is a reason DR Peterson is loved by many millions, his book a bestseller, one of the top quora commentators, a professor at harvard and university of Toronto.
Honestly he is one of the greatest minds of our time. I have learned so much from this man.
However I feel the more I learn it seems the less I know. There seem to be so many on this utube page who have arrived, they seem to know more than me. It must be nice. I cant seem to ever stop being able to learn, I seem to know nothing.
@@planes3333You must be kidding. One of the greatest minds?! People are just intimidated by him because he always has this angry indignation. The man needs a valium or 3.
@@planes3333
Well informed religious discussions and debates are overcomplicating what's actually a simple topic. Jordan Peterson in particular is a master of overcomplication.
After listening to him, it's hard not to see his rambling as a mess of unnecessary confusion as he tries to legitimize the magic in an ancient book of fantasy.
We all know better, even if some refuse to admit it.
It is unfortunate that many, like yourself, will hear an articulation of scholarly concepts and respond with, "the more I learn it seems the less I know".
The ridiculousness of religion makes it very easy to quickly find your position. Nobody rose from the dead, the sea wasn't split into two, a bat is not a bird, people shouldn't be owned as property, women actually have value, and so on. Don't be intimidated by philosophical "deepities" when talking about religion.
Imagine if Jordan narrated Shawshank redemption. It would be 7 hours long. The sewer scene would last until Andy dies.
😂😂😂
Hearing Peterson is like hearing the definition of a word salad
What do you mean by word? What do you mean by salad?
Jordan "Deepak" Peterson is the shallow thinker's idea of a deep thinker.
@@ObservantHistorian that's rich. lol
@@vratyasvakyas6022 By word I mean the longest ones I could find in the dictionary (think Welsh villages). By salad I mean a good metric ton of scallion caught in Jamie Olivers fried rice, rubbing shoulders with chili jam and pestled tofu.
It’s a shame. When he talks psychiatry and sociology he’s incredibly precise and direct speaking. But on the subject of religion he just talks sh*t.
The composure of Dawkins and Alex is such a stark contrast to Peterson it makes him look like a flailing temperamental child 🙈. Glad to see there are some adults in the room to hold his hand. “I’m not interested in dragons, I’m interested in reality” 💀
Emotion is not bad, not everyone needs to be a Stoic
It's often the case with the conservatives, they are highly emotional.
That’s because Dawkins doesn’t let his booksale numbers influence his answers. Peterson is nothing more than a gameshowhost.
If that
It shows the terrible impact that religious indoctrination has on a potentially intelligent brain. It really is a form of brain damage and quite pitiable.
Ex-Hindu, now atheist here. It's because of Richard Dawkins, Sam Harris, and Christopher Hitchens.
Me too, since 2013. Besides them, here in Brazil, in that year I was also informing myself on this topic with two youtubers, Pirula and Clarion De Laffalot. Pirula is a biologist and explained about evolution, and introduced me to Richard Dawkins, and Clarion used to make amazing videos about logical thinking and fallacies.
Check out Matt Dillahunty too, you'll love him
@@plaguedoct0r I already know him.
read upanishads, hinduism is a well. vedanta is the ocean.
There are incredible humanistic teachings in Hinduism that you can still keep even if you want to be an atheist.
0:17 “do you believe that Jesus died for our sins?”
We’re now a minute into answer avoidance and he’s now digressed to “quantum phenomena”.
Peterson understands the question. Dawkins knows that Peterson understands the question. Peterson knows that Dawkins knows that he, Peterson, understands the question. Yet still, Peterson dances around the question. He exposes himself to be a dishonest interlocutor. All it took was a straight question. And Dawkins just sits there, while Peterson unravels.
Wouldn't it be awesome to see Peterson take a lie detector test?
The results would be regarded as art and displayed in museums like Jackson Pollocks.
@@chiefchimp2789
The power company would charge extra.
@@Crankypantz420 *Pollock*
@@chiefchimp2789 That's totally unnecessary.
Here in Sweden we have an expression, "word pooping", that very much describes Jordan Petersons way of expressing himself. It's like an unfiltered stream of consiousness where he begins by talking and then makes up his argument along the way.
On the "Bristol Scale" of language : would that be between verbal-incontinence and bovine-excrement ?
@@kateknowles8055 Well, it depends on what you mean by...
We in Lithuania we have an expression "spinning pasta over the ears", that very much describes Jordan Petersons way of saying a loads of shit to confuse another person and avoid answering direct question, making another person who is listening become tired and filled in full of shit. I believe Jordan Peterson is energetic vampire... if they exist LOL
JP is an academic and experienced Clinical Psychologist he doesn’t do trite or superficial. Hard for some people to understand in this instant gratification, trite, superficial world. I’m an atheist so don’t necessarily agree with JP on this topic but I respect his reasoning. I think his argument is largely that as human beings we are predisposed to religious belief - or explanations for the universe - and therefore religion plays an important function in human societies whether we like it or not. If we don’t have spiritual belief outside of ourselves the vacuum is filled with terrible alternatives like communism and the deification of corrupt humans. And on that he has a point - but I still think religion is man made so is just as corrupt and human as any other ideology 🤷♀️
@@mogznwazPeterson evades every question. He’s just word salad.
JP is joke and does not deserve to be viewed as a credible intellectual. I aspire to have the patience exemplified by RD.
He does tbh but shouldn’t let his booksale numbers influence his reasoning.
Even considering putting him in that category is an insult to intelligence. Building your career in telling young men to make their beds is not an intellectual achievement.
Peterson clearly won't shut up because it's become so financially rewarding for him. I think deep down he knows he's a complete fraud, but money is fun to roll around in.
I couldnt stand more than 5min. I don't understand JPs popularity. He's a joke
@@BlackQueen-z5b ah come on man, the guy is the personification of Word Salad
Did Jordan tell you how to change the tyre on your car like he promised? 'No, but I heard a story about 3 dogs and how they represent our childhood trauma. But he seemed to think he taught me how to change the tyre'
ROFL
I honesty started wonder if Peterson was going to burst into tears
i know hes not been the same since his mental breakdown.
He does that a lot.
@@mrrolandlawrenceNo, …..he’s NEVER been stable . He personifies the old ‘ chicken or egg ‘ conundrum , & he’s finally being exposed as the ****** he is and always has been . History is littered w snake oilers like him
the dude has been on a drug cocktail since he became a benzo junkie, he's always on the verge of mental breakdown now
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'you must understand what you're being asked here' 😂
hahahaha!
Lol
Empty vessels make the most noise!
Brilliantly said, man.
I love this
Absolutely. Comparing the noise, eye rolling and waving of hands of the vacuous JP with the amused, relaxed, sarcastic silence of RD is so revealing...
Sorry I can't hear you. There's a Peterson in the room...
Ouch!! 😆 🤣 😂
Peterson thinks that by raising his voice and coming off angry and indignant, he will bully people into thinking he’s always right.
No one on Earth can dodge a question quite like Peterson.
Trump!
@@catalhuyuk7 no, not even close. Harris is far better at dodging questions than Trump is.
@alligatordundee4983 no, Harris addresses questions, felon trump "weaves" incoherently while not answering any questions. He literally believes he was the "best" president, even though he presidency was a failure.
Do what you want its freedom of speech.
We see buses driving around that say “ there is probably no God so why not enjoy your life” ……dont be silenced by the haters and the new atheists in their new religion.
Remember atheism was the reason for the gulags, the great leap forward and the killing fields.
Nietzsche and Dostoevsky both predicted the coming butchery from Stalin, Pot and Mao and the death toll reached from 70-100 million dead. That's 100,000,000 people massacred from three regimes and three men.
Remember with “God is Dead” you get bloodshed. The Salem witch trials killed 7 the atheist regimes of the 20th century killed 70 million.
Also Alexander Solzenitzyn wrote about the insane evil massacres in his book the “Gulag Archipelago” which is now required reading in Russia and by the way it basically brought down the communist/atheistic soviet union.
Atheists many of whom are brilliant and than there are those who have not done the job of atheism and that is the seeking of all knowledge about all claims of this universe beginning.
Some atheists are as bad as our Fred Phelps and Kenneth Copeland's.
Even though we have our Ravi Zacharias's and Stephen Meyers and John Lennox.
keep preaching man
Jesus commanded it but be wise, dont throw your pearls to pigs..
Also how can an atheist have an opinion on what good or bad is, is that not just a matter of opinion? From where do they derive their actual morals and values from? Society? well I would hate to be a jew during the German final solution during that time in that warped society, oh and your not like that are you? Wait and see what you go along with, or are you already pro abortion.
Peterson's dodging skills would make even Neo envious.
Peterson avoids all answers 😂
No your wrong he does believe christianity is true.
Also Dr Peterson has made millions from his books and speaking engagements. He speaks what he believes and he speaks truth reaching millions.
I have seen him in debates with television stations in europe and in the west.
I have seen about 7 different videos on youtube where he gave a psychological take on the biblical stories. He spoke to packed auditoriums
I saw him lecturing on sumerian myth, nazies, and chaos and order when he taught at universities,
I saw him lecturing on m.a.i.d in my country of canada.
I saw him lecturing on the atheist/communist soviet union while killed about 70,000,000 people to 100,000,000 people in the great leap forward, killing fields and the gulags.
I have seen him interviewed on Joe Rogan twice or three times,
I saw him fighting for free speech in my country
and I am halfway through reading 12 rules for life.
I have learned about history, psychology, religion, myth, nazi germany, communism, genocide, alexander solzhenitsyn, Friedrich Nietzsche, Carl Jung, Sigmund Freud, Dostoyevsky, Jesus, Moses, Abraham, Joshua, The epic of Gilgamesh, the Enumalish,
and many other topics. He certainly has given me many helpful practices in my life from thinking to living, and my faith also has been conceptualised to another dynamic.
also he encouraged me to get order in my life and as such I cleaned my room
I think he is one of the most intelligent men to walk the earth, right up there with Dostoyevsky and Chris Langene.
thanks for your question.
hope your having as good a day as I am
from canada
Does he? No your wrong he does believe christianity is true.
Also Dr Peterson has made millions from his books and speaking engagements. He speaks what he believes and he speaks truth reaching millions.
I have seen him in debates with television stations in europe and in the west.
I have seen about 7 different videos on youtube where he gave a psychological take on the biblical stories. He spoke to packed auditoriums
I saw him lecturing on sumerian myth, nazies, and chaos and order when he taught at universities,
I saw him lecturing on m.a.i.d in my country of canada.
I saw him lecturing on the atheist/communist soviet union while killed about 70,000,000 people to 100,000,000 people in the great leap forward, killing fields and the gulags.
I have seen him interviewed on Joe Rogan twice or three times,
I saw him fighting for free speech in my country
and I am halfway through reading 12 rules for life.
I have learned about history, psychology, religion, myth, nazi germany, communism, genocide, alexander solzhenitsyn, Friedrich Nietzsche, Carl Jung, Sigmund Freud, Dostoyevsky, Jesus, Moses, Abraham, Joshua, The epic of Gilgamesh, the Enumalish,
and many other topics. He certainly has given me many helpful practices in my life from thinking to living, and my faith also has been conceptualised to another dynamic.
also he encouraged me to get order in my life and as such I cleaned my room
I think he is one of the most intelligent men to walk the earth, right up there with Dostoyevsky and Chris Langene.
thanks for your question.
hope your having as good a day as I am
from canada
Why is it that Peterson always gets to talk 10 times more than his opponent, but still never answers the f’n question?! 🤬
A scary combo of insanity and babble
Do what you want its freedom of speech.
We see buses driving around that say “ there is probably no God so why not enjoy your life” ……dont be silenced by the haters and the new atheists in their new religion.
Remember atheism was the reason for the gulags, the great leap forward and the killing fields.
Nietzsche and Dostoevsky both predicted the coming butchery from Stalin, Pot and Mao and the death toll reached from 70-100 million dead. That's 100,000,000 people massacred from three regimes and three men.
Remember with “God is Dead” you get bloodshed. The Salem witch trials killed 7 the atheist regimes of the 20th century killed 70 million.
Also Alexander Solzenitzyn wrote about the insane evil massacres in his book the “Gulag Archipelago” which is now required reading in Russia and by the way it basically brought down the communist/atheistic soviet union.
Atheists many of whom are brilliant and than there are those who have not done the job of atheism and that is the seeking of all knowledge about all claims of this universe beginning.
Some atheists are as bad as our Fred Phelps and Kenneth Copeland's.
Even though we have our Ravi Zacharias's and Stephen Meyers and John Lennox.
keep preaching man
Jesus commanded it but be wise, dont throw your pearls to pigs..
Also how can an atheist have an opinion on what good or bad is, is that not just a matter of opinion? From where do they derive their actual morals and values from? Society? well I would hate to be a jew during the German final solution during that time in that warped society, oh and your not like that are you? Wait and see what you go along with, or are you already pro abortion.
Because he is an atheist who pretends to not be an atheist because the American right has made him a rich man and he cannot possibly admit to the American right that he is an atheist for fear of his revenue streams going away.
Dawkins lets Petersen make a fcukwit of himself.
@@michaelgann8070
😂😂😂
True.
I love Dr. Peterson, but he's afraid to say that he doesn't believe in the literal, virgin birth because he doesn't want to lose his fundamentalist followers.
Probably the case.
If he doesn't believe in that or the resurrection then he's wasting his time . Without those two articles of faith, Christianity collapses. Peterson, like many people has struggled with it and unlike most people who either a) abandon the faith and then become equally evangelistic about atheism or b) submit totally to the faith and become almost masochistic and irrational and abandoned all critical thinking faculties. The vast majority of church goers are just well meaning nice people who don't think about the dogma that's put in front of them, and enjoy being part of a social group of Sunday church people. Most will die in a hospital not caring either way under powerful medication not knowing they've died.
Professor Peterson's great strength is without a doubt his ability to dodge answering direct questions in a straightforward way. He will ramble and ramble and appeal to symbolism and any other tools which will take the conversation in a direction that he feels more comfortable with. Basically, he's a master in bullshitting his way out of any difficult situation!
I disagree. I agree that he dodged everything he's ever asked, but he's definitely not good at it. He gets agitated and spews nonsense and it's extremely obvious that he's deflecting because he's uncomfortable answering.
If he was good at it you would have a hard time realizing he dodged the question. Like when Sam Harris asked if he believed in the resurrection, a yes or no question. "It would take me 40 hours to explain that." He, like many believers, myself included when I was younger, is afraid of denying the obvious falsity for fear of going to hell and/or disappointing god
Until he encounters anyone that can immediately recognize bullshit. Peterson is a clown.
A difficult listen. I found myself wanting them to stop asking him questions. How can you have an honest conversation with Peterson?
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Jordan Peterson, King of the Word Salad
Kermit has never publicly given a straight answer in his life. He's an infuriating bullshit artist.
Yeah, is the Rainbow Connection real or not?
Shut up Steve
He used to do. After his near-death experience, he transformed into a religious postmodernist nut.
Oh wow such an enlightening comment.
How on earth did this Peterson guy get famous and followers? He is all over the place like a boring drunk at a party. Incredible
No your wrong he does believe christianity is true.
Also Dr Peterson has made millions from his books and speaking engagements. He speaks what he believes and he speaks truth reaching millions.
I have seen him in debates with television stations in europe and in the west.
I have seen about 7 different videos on youtube where he gave a psychological take on the biblical stories. He spoke to packed auditoriums
I saw him lecturing on sumerian myth, nazies, and chaos and order when he taught at universities,
I saw him lecturing on m.a.i.d in my country of canada.
I saw him lecturing on the atheist/communist soviet union while killed about 70,000,000 people to 100,000,000 people in the great leap forward, killing fields and the gulags.
I have seen him interviewed on Joe Rogan twice or three times,
I saw him fighting for free speech in my country
and I am halfway through reading 12 rules for life.
I have learned about history, psychology, religion, myth, nazi germany, communism, genocide, alexander solzhenitsyn, Friedrich Nietzsche, Carl Jung, Sigmund Freud, Dostoyevsky, Jesus, Moses, Abraham, Joshua, The epic of Gilgamesh, the Enumalish,
and many other topics. He certainly has given me many helpful practices in my life from thinking to living, and my faith also has been conceptualised to another dynamic.
also he encouraged me to get order in my life and as such I cleaned my room
I think he is one of the most intelligent men to walk the earth, right up there with Dostoyevsky and Chris Langene.
thanks for your question.
hope your having as good a day as I am
from canada
It is getting harder and harder to listen to his gibberish (sophisticated sounding ramblings)... Although, it was a pleasure to watch Professor Dawkins torment the foolish man...
Both Sam Harris and Richard Dawkins are much too kind to Peterson. If Hitchens was still around and agreed to a debate, within a minute he would have called him a total fraud.
@@chiefchimp2789I see the kindness as a plus. Something very effectual about the facts speaking for themselves without resorting to anything ruthless. Poor Jordan is so clearly under pressure here. He's squirming....all whilst Dawkins is so clear but mannerly, as usual.
@@chiefchimp2789if you haven’t seen it yet I recommend watching Matt Dillahunty debating him, he handled Peterson better than anyone I’ve seen, didn’t let him get away with any of his semantic tricks like diversions and redefining words etc. he pretty much wiped the floor with him.
@@rgrtnyjjc
Comparatively yes, but even Matt was too kind with this jerk.
Peterson is just a dribbling fool. He might have been a smart man once but he’s lost his mind.
Can't wait. Peterson became a big disappointment to this fan. Dawkins never has.
Peterson has always been the internet's most famous stopped clock. Every time he ends a statement I'm left baffled by all the words soup that's been spilled.
Wait for what? The full interview was uploaded to Jordan Peterson's channel couple days ago
@@apathyguy8338 I know what you mean! What always admired about him was the way he often took long pauses to choose exactly the word he wanted for the soup! 🙂 He never let interviewers away with putting words into his mouth. He knows his own trade well and I respect his views on the 'pronouns' business that lost him his job. But his religious 'beliefs" (?) left me disappointed. These two and Stephen Fry are high in my esteem as was the late Hitchens.
I don't like Peterson but Dawkins is just a hack who knows nothing about how the world works because he ignores every scientific field outside his own. And I'm not talking about theology but sociology, economics, psychology, all of the cultural sciences. He simply refuses to learn. That's why he became totally irrelevant.
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He's the type of professor where you won't say a WORD in his class. Undivided attention and respect
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Wow! First time hearing JP talking/babbling about his imaginary friends without being able to bring one valid argument to the table. What a waste of time…
The day Jordan Peterson shuts up, the world will be a better place.
This is the personification of why Hitchen's said religion poisons everything. Not the least of which is your mind.
Jesus Christ has been the most loving, kind, wise and powerful person to walk the earth. He has had millions of followers in the past willing to die in his name and billions worship him as God today.
In fact 2.5 billion people worship Jesus Christ as their God, who took on flesh and walked among the very creations he himself made, his mission on earth to undo all evil, sin, death and suffering from Satan's work of destroying humanity.
He healed the sick, raised the dead, taught the nations, helped the lost, fed the poor, gave sight to the blind, gave hearing to the deaf, healed the possessed, and died on a cross for all who would accept his free gift of salvation for their sins.
Jesus is on every continent, in almost every language, biblical teachings are the foundation to western society and millions of books, paintings, art, songs, plays, teachings, sermons are all about Jesus.
Even time itself was split according to his arrival on earth. BC and AD. Sadly secular society tried to make the timeline not in reference to Jesus but the Gregorian calendar is still used by some.
Persecution of christians is the most prevalent type of prejudice but his followers still follow him.
You can still make a pilgrimage to see Bethlehem, Nazareth, capernaum, Jerusalem, calvary, golgotha and many other places Jesus walked talked and died for mankind's sins.
2.5 billion people worship Jesus as their God. 1.8 billion muslims see Jesus as a prophet and 1 billion Hindus see Jesus as a good teacher, reincarnation or avatar. Almost everyone in the world knows about Jesus
The Greatest Man in History… Jesus; Had no servants, yet they called Him Master. Had no degree, yet they called Him Teacher. Had no medicines, yet they called Him Healer. He had no army, yet kings feared Him. He won no military battles, yet He conquered the world. He did not live in a castle, yet they called Him Lord, He ruled no nations, yet they called Him King, He committed no crime, yet they crucified Him. He was buried in a tomb, yet He lives today
@@planes3333Why do you think he explains how to beat your slaves? Why does he say, "Think not that I come to bring peace, come to divide mother against daughter, father against son...?"
@@dwolfcoach Yes he does divide mother against son and father against daughter. You are completely correct. My own family is just like that, my parents are split up and me and my mom love Jesus and my sister is kind of odd as she recognises that Jesus was a very awesome dude but than she is sort of new age and into reincarnation etc. My dad seems to be an agnostic or atheist. Half of all my relatives are devout believers in Jesus, the other half are semi cultural christians or atheists.
Jesus came to save all and any who want to be forgiven of sin, he wont force himself on us, he gives us free will. He made enough proof of his mighty power in the millions of species and trillions of stars.
Your right. Jesus came in love and mercy but he is returning with a double edged sword to judge the nations.
Funny thing is the moon is rusting and the euphrates is drying up and Israel is back in their homeland as the scriptures say things will be in the last days and with cryptocurrency and digital money the "mark of the beast" is easy to do.
PEACE
Jesus loves you
@@dwolfcoach Exodus 21:20-21 says, “Anyone who beats their male or female slave with a rod must be punished if the slave dies as a direct result, but they are not to be punished if the slave recovers after a day or two, since the slave is their property.” Why did the Mosaic Law allow for slave owners to beat their slaves? The obvious answer is that, in the social structure of ancient Israel, physical punishment was considered the appropriate response for acts of disobedience and rebellion. The text does not specifically say that the corporal punishment has to be for some form of disobedience; however, based on the larger Old Testament context, it is safe to assume that slave masters were not allowed carte blanche authority to do whatever they wanted to their slaves. In Exodus 21, slave owners are limited in what they can do: if the master goes too far and the slave dies, the master will be punished. If the Old Testament Law is followed consistently, then the punishment for the slave owner might even include the death penalty for murder. Of course, if a master beats his slave and the slave is unable to work for some time, the master has punished himself by losing the work he might have received from the slave. The implication here is that it is in the master’s best interest not to be too severe.
Exodus 21:20-21 is certainly troubling to people with modern sensitivities. Modern people in the free world have come to view autonomous personal freedom as the highest form of good and anything that curtails personal freedom as the ultimate evil. People may be tempted to read a passage like Exodus 21:20-21 and charge God with moral evil. Such charges need to be challenged, for slavery is not the only area where modern sensitivities and biblical guidelines clash-abortion and homosexuality are two other flashpoints. The danger on this issue is that most Christians would agree that slavery is morally reprehensible.
There are two distinct approaches in formulating an answer to why the Bible allows for slavery, and the outcome will be determined by what a person accepts as the authority. The first approach goes something like this:
Slavery is morally reprehensible in all situations.
The Bible allows slavery.
Therefore the Bible is an unreliable moral guide.
In this case, current moral sensitivities are the authority, and the Bible is measured against those sensibilities.
The second goes something like this:
The Bible is a reliable moral guide.
The Bible allows slavery.
Therefore slavery cannot be morally reprehensible in all situations.
In this case, the Bible is the final authority, and modern thinking about right and wrong has to be adjusted to accommodate what we find in the Bible.
Slavery has been a fact of human existence for almost as long as the human race has been in existence. Physical punishment to enforce compliance has been part of slavery for just as long. Corporal punishment has also been used in situations other than slavery. For example, physical chastisements were commonly employed as punishment for crimes committed and for the enforcing of discipline in the military. We are not so far removed from the time when brutal physical punishment was administered and accepted by almost everyone as legitimate. In the British Navy, flogging for disobedience or insubordination was common until the mid-19th century, and caning was used until the mid-20th century. In some places, such as Singapore, caning is still an official form of punishment for certain crimes.
The Bible does not forbid slavery, nor does it demand that every slave owner who wants to please God must immediately emancipate his slaves. Instead, the Bible at every turn calls for a treatment of slaves that would have been more humane than any found in the culture at large. The very idea that a master could be punished in any way for killing a slave would have been scandalous at the time Moses gave the Law. The culture at large made no attempt to grant slaves any rights. Slaves in Egypt or Moab, for example, were afforded no such protection.
Earlier in the same chapter, kidnapping for the purpose of slavery is condemned and the death penalty enjoined: “Anyone who kidnaps someone is to be put to death, whether the victim has been sold or is still in the kidnapper’s possession” (Exodus 21:16). (Ironically, the death penalty is another area where modern people assume their moral sensitivity is superior to God’s!) Furthermore, we must not make the mistake of equating slavery in ancient Israel with antebellum slavery in the United States. If the biblical dictates regarding slavery, including the regulations found in Exodus 21:16, 20-21, had been enforced in Western nations in the 1800s, then slavery in the United States would have been very different.
The regulations regarding slaves in Exodus 21, far from being inhumane, would have been far more humane and protective of the slave in Israel than in any of the surrounding nations.
@@dwolfcoach Glad to hear your a loving compassionate person. I assume you care and love all people like me (though I can be somewhat rude in my comments from time to time.)
I guess like me you are utterly opposed to cruelty of animals, slavery, sex slavery and abortion.
If your not against those things are you not being a hypocrite.
Also slavery in america and england was stopped by rich white men who were christians.
Also slavery was a world wide commerce. People in roman times sold themselves into slavery at one point one third of the world was slaves.
I miss Chris Hitchens. He was so cool.
Absolutely. You can just imagine him tearing this Peterson clown to shreds
Oh don’t we all! ❤
He was horrible.
Me too, he was fantastic
It’s my understanding that he never liked being called Chris. No big deal, I guess, since it can’t bother him now.
This was a waste of time. Why people listen to a word Peterson says is beyond me.
Because he is a genuine intellectual who educated millions of people on many complicated subjects. He is a brilliant psychologist, his OLD lectures are very, very, very informative. His arguments about the West, the leftists, democracy and many other things are spot on. He opened eyes of many people to lies of the legacy media and still going strong.
But. Yes. He has an idea that the religion is a product of evolution (which he doesn't deny) and is desperately trying to marry religion with science or to prove that the "God" is a something of a representation of reality which is inside of every single one of use and that's why we crave for religion so much. He just can't let go of this idea. And since he DID educate A LOT of people on MANY intellectual matters, he, as far as I am concerned, starts to think of himself as a prophet. Well... you see where this is going.
I also dislike his religious fervor. Honestly, he is going more insane with each day, but I still appreciate him. He is still a good man and I will recoomend his psychological lectures to anyone. You shouldn't just dismiss a person if he failed in one intellectiual duscussion, btw. He can be wrong here and 100% correct in different matters. Or 40% correct. You be the judje.
@@TheFaveteLinguisI've watched a lot of JP and RD content. Not a single time I've heard JP say anything of substance, as opposed to 99.99% of the time in the case of RD. Life is too short to waste it on people like JP.
@@mayhu3282 I hope you wouldn't mind me disagreeing with you on that matter.
Let's take for example: 2014 Personality Lecture 16: Extraversion & Neuroticism (Biology & Traits)
And other lectures of that sort. Let me know what you think.
There are many more with genuine research.
2015 Personality Lecture 15: Biology & Traits: Limbic System & Lower Order Goals
It’s a blessing and a privilege to have clear thinking, courage and the ability to express that thought process with simplicity.
My brain started hurting when Jordan was talking.
He just wasn’t answering the question.
Im sensing Jordan knows Christianity is really important to his wife and he loves his wife. He nearly lost her to cancer and was helped to recover through belief and he doesn’t want to be disloyal to her or cause any problems to her belief therefore wellbeing.
When I first stumbled upon Jordan Peterson, I thought, I need to listen to more of this guy. Now I realize that he just has every word of the day calendar every made. . . memorized
YES. He is conventional.
Look hes right on free speech and expression and how without it tyrany is sure to swallow us all. But hes wrong on religion. You dont have to have to fully praise or condemn the man. Many people are wrong on things but can do immense good soeaking correctly on other things... Quit demanding perfectiomism.
@86Corvus I didn't say anything about him being right or wrong about anything, nor did I demand perfection. I just implied he likes to hear himself talk.
@@86Corvus You r right that most ppl say a mix of right and wrong things and that you cannot seek perfection. But, I think Peterson causes more harm than good. That is why a ton of people make fun of him. He encourages ppl to be delusional and illogical. A lot of ppl recognize this about him and think it is wrong.
Same
How agitated is JP and how calm are Richard and Alex 😊
Oh, Alex is fuming in parts. He's just very stoic about it. Richard is on another level, though. Calm blue oceans all the way.
@@carmencopindean I really value Jordan, but when he veers off into verbosity, ott hand movements and high pitched voice, I switch off.
@@jackiedouglas4483maybe value him less, since that’s all he does
Jesus Christ has been the most loving, kind, wise and powerful person to walk the earth. He has had millions of followers in the past willing to die in his name and billions worship him as God today.
In fact 2.5 billion people worship Jesus Christ as their God, who took on flesh and walked among the very creations he himself made, his mission on earth to undo all evil, sin, death and suffering from Satan's work of destroying humanity.
He healed the sick, raised the dead, taught the nations, helped the lost, fed the poor, gave sight to the blind, gave hearing to the deaf, healed the possessed, and died on a cross for all who would accept his free gift of salvation for their sins.
Jesus is on every continent, in almost every language, biblical teachings are the foundation to western society and millions of books, paintings, art, songs, plays, teachings, sermons are all about Jesus.
Even time itself was split according to his arrival on earth. BC and AD. Sadly secular society tried to make the timeline not in reference to Jesus but the Gregorian calendar is still used by some.
Persecution of christians is the most prevalent type of prejudice but his followers still follow him.
You can still make a pilgrimage to see Bethlehem, Nazareth, capernaum, Jerusalem, calvary, golgotha and many other places Jesus walked talked and died for mankind's sins.
2.5 billion people worship Jesus as their God. 1.8 billion muslims see Jesus as a prophet and 1 billion Hindus see Jesus as a good teacher, reincarnation or avatar. Almost everyone in the world knows about Jesus
The Greatest Man in History… Jesus; Had no servants, yet they called Him Master. Had no degree, yet they called Him Teacher. Had no medicines, yet they called Him Healer. He had no army, yet kings feared Him. He won no military battles, yet He conquered the world. He did not live in a castle, yet they called Him Lord, He ruled no nations, yet they called Him King, He committed no crime, yet they crucified Him. He was buried in a tomb, yet He lives today
Don't forget, JP is a psychologist who's trained to help people manage their emotions.
“i’m not trying to play a trick here”
boy did he give it away pretty instantaneously lol
I don’t understand how Jordan Peterson can be taken seriously by anybody.
Maybe, that is the question needed to be asked.
Jordan B Peterson. Raised in northern Alberta. Has flown a hammerhead roll in a carbon fiber stunt plane, built a ceremonial brighouse on the top of his home after being invited to by the Canadian first nations people.
He has been a dishwasher, gas jockey, bartender, short order cook, bee-keeper, oil derrick re-tipper, plywood mill labourer, and railway line worker.
He has taught mythology to lawyers, doctors and business people, consulted for the UN secretary general panel for sustainable development.
Dr Peterson has helped his clients to manage depression, obsessive compulsive, anxiety and schizophrenia.
Served as an adviser to senior partners in major Canadian law firms.
He has identified thousands of entrepreneurs in sixty different countries.
He has lectured extensively in europe and north america.
He has published more than 100 scientific papers.
He is an expert in communism and nazismn.
He was a Harvard professor and was nominated for the Levenson teaching prize.
His tenure at university of Toronto saw him being considered as one of three truly life changing professors.
He is a quora most viewed writer.
Dr Peterson has given hope to many who were lost, he has millions of people who attend his lectures on biblical, mythological and religious and psychological themes.
He is a beacon for free speech and free expression.
His teaching and books were one variable among many that helped me to learn about Nietzsche's, Dostoevsky and Solzhenitsyn. He has brought hope and blessings to millions
I feel compassion for all of you that hate him, he is one of the most intelligent people that are on earth.
He has dedicated his life to helping people and he is hated.
No your wrong he does believe christianity is true.
Also Dr Peterson has made millions from his books and speaking engagements. He speaks what he believes and he speaks truth reaching millions.
I have seen him in debates with television stations in europe and in the west.
I have seen about 7 different videos on youtube where he gave a psychological take on the biblical stories. He spoke to packed auditoriums
I saw him lecturing on sumerian myth, nazies, and chaos and order when he taught at universities,
I saw him lecturing on m.a.i.d in my country of canada.
I saw him lecturing on the atheist/communist soviet union while killed about 70,000,000 people to 100,000,000 people in the great leap forward, killing fields and the gulags.
I have seen him interviewed on Joe Rogan twice or three times,
I saw him fighting for free speech in my country
and I am halfway through reading 12 rules for life.
I have learned about history, psychology, religion, myth, nazi germany, communism, genocide, alexander solzhenitsyn, Friedrich Nietzsche, Carl Jung, Sigmund Freud, Dostoyevsky, Jesus, Moses, Abraham, Joshua, The epic of Gilgamesh, the Enumalish,
and many other topics. He certainly has given me many helpful practices in my life from thinking to living, and my faith also has been conceptualised to another dynamic.
also he encouraged me to get order in my life and as such I cleaned my room
I think he is one of the most intelligent men to walk the earth, right up there with Dostoyevsky and Chris Langene.
thanks for your question.
hope your having as good a day as I am
from canada
Everytime the psychologist appears in a debate with a learned opponent, it's like he's on a psychoanalyst's couch, wrestling with a truth that he's desperately trying to resist. He squirms and contorts, his fingers twitch as if activated by electricity and he avoids eye contact while struggling to maintain even a modicum of control over his vocalizing. It's apparently tough to be him.
Totally agree
No your wrong he does believe christianity is true.
Also Dr Peterson has made millions from his books and speaking engagements. He speaks what he believes and he speaks truth reaching millions.
I have seen him in debates with television stations in europe and in the west.
I have seen about 7 different videos on youtube where he gave a psychological take on the biblical stories. He spoke to packed auditoriums
I saw him lecturing on sumerian myth, nazies, and chaos and order when he taught at universities,
I saw him lecturing on m.a.i.d in my country of canada.
I saw him lecturing on the atheist/communist soviet union while killed about 70,000,000 people to 100,000,000 people in the great leap forward, killing fields and the gulags.
I have seen him interviewed on Joe Rogan twice or three times,
I saw him fighting for free speech in my country
and I am halfway through reading 12 rules for life.
I have learned about history, psychology, religion, myth, nazi germany, communism, genocide, alexander solzhenitsyn, Friedrich Nietzsche, Carl Jung, Sigmund Freud, Dostoyevsky, Jesus, Moses, Abraham, Joshua, The epic of Gilgamesh, the Enumalish,
and many other topics. He certainly has given me many helpful practices in my life from thinking to living, and my faith also has been conceptualised to another dynamic.
also he encouraged me to get order in my life and as such I cleaned my room
I think he is one of the most intelligent men to walk the earth, right up there with Dostoyevsky and Chris Langene.
thanks for your question.
hope your having as good a day as I am
from canada
If you asked Peterson if Tinker-bell exists in the real world, he could easily answer. Ask him about religion and he waffles with endless incoherence while claiming it's too complicated for highly intelligent people to understand. Why it is so hard to say: 'very little in Bible is factually true, but the value lies in the meaning of the stories'? I was impressed while I was in Kakadu National Park in northern Australia when the Aboriginal park ranger explained the geography by saying: "we believe this area was created by 'x' mythical being", but science tells us the area was formed by 'y'. It was refreshing.
I'm genuinely not sure that he wouldn't make a case for Tinkerbell existing. Something like her archetype is so ingrained that in a sense she does exist. Which is insane
@@Yossarianhoenikker he wouldn't take so long with tinkerbell cuz that's not a large demographic of followers.
Jordan B Peterson. Raised in northern Alberta. Has flown a hammerhead roll in a carbon fiber stunt plane, built a ceremonial brighouse on the top of his home after being invited to by the Canadian first nations people.
He has been a dishwasher, gas jockey, bartender, short order cook, bee-keeper, oil derrick re-tipper, plywood mill labourer, and railway line worker.
He has taught mythology to lawyers, doctors and business people, consulted for the UN secretary general panel for sustainable development.
Dr Peterson has helped his clients to manage depression, obsessive compulsive, anxiety and schizophrenia.
Served as an adviser to senior partners in major Canadian law firms.
He has identified thousands of entrepreneurs in sixty different countries.
He has lectured extensively in europe and north america.
He has published more than 100 scientific papers.
He is an expert in communism and nazismn.
He was a Harvard professor and was nominated for the Levenson teaching prize.
His tenure at university of Toronto saw him being considered as one of three truly life changing professors.
He is a quora most viewed writer.
Dr Peterson has given hope to many who were lost, he has millions of people who attend his lectures on biblical, mythological and religious and psychological themes.
He is a beacon for free speech and free expression.
His teaching and books were one variable among many that helped me to learn about Nietzsche's, Dostoevsky and Solzhenitsyn. He has brought hope and blessings to millions
I feel compassion for all of you that hate him, he is one of the most intelligent people that are on earth.
He has dedicated his life to helping people and he is hated.
Finally someone confronted this charlatan. Dawkins sacrifice for our sins here... He is the hope for this world so future generations can figure out truth more easily.
If you understand what he is saying, and the place from which he is saying it, you would not call him a charlatan. If measuring the Earth's diameter to the nearest millimeter is your idea of the height of human cultural achievement, then yes, carry on thinking as you do. But calling Petersen a charlatan is simpleminded, at best, malicious at worst.
@@harryposner7584 It isn’t measuring the Earth’s diameter to hair’s breadth, it’s predicting the Earth’s diameter to a hair’s breadth and getting it right. It is an understanding of the true hidden nature of reality, possibly the greatest cultural achievement possible.
LOL. Peterson is a public intellectual in a way that Dawkins simply isn't.
Dawkins is out of his depth whenever he ventures into any area that requires a hinterland, as he repeatedly makes clear.
If you are going to insist on being a grovelling fan boy, find somebody more worthy of your adulation.
@@ProfoundThinker-c5z No. Dawkins is a scientist and Peterson is more into philosophy. Peterson doesn't give a solution, he creates problems.
@@nfdslkfladhf No, Peterson is qualified in political science and psychology, and so certainly has a grasp of statistics and the scientific method. He is also far more widely read than Dawkins.
Dawkins is a populariser of science, not a public intellectual. His association with Hitchens underscores this - no genuine intellectual would regard Hitchens with any real seriousness.
Prof. Peterson is the ideal orator. One that can speak for hours eloquently without providing an answer and leaving you in doubt if he has answered or not.
What a wall of noise Peterson emits in response to simple questions.
Do what you want its freedom of speech.
We see buses driving around that say “ there is probably no God so why not enjoy your life” ……dont be silenced by the haters and the new atheists in their new religion.
Remember atheism was the reason for the gulags, the great leap forward and the killing fields.
Nietzsche and Dostoevsky both predicted the coming butchery from Stalin, Pot and Mao and the death toll reached from 70-100 million dead. That's 100,000,000 people massacred from three regimes and three men.
Remember with “God is Dead” you get bloodshed. The Salem witch trials killed 7 the atheist regimes of the 20th century killed 70 million.
Also Alexander Solzenitzyn wrote about the insane evil massacres in his book the “Gulag Archipelago” which is now required reading in Russia and by the way it basically brought down the communist/atheistic soviet union.
Atheists many of whom are brilliant and than there are those who have not done the job of atheism and that is the seeking of all knowledge about all claims of this universe beginning.
Some atheists are as bad as our Fred Phelps and Kenneth Copeland's.
Even though we have our Ravi Zacharias's and Stephen Meyers and John Lennox.
keep preaching man
Jesus commanded it but be wise, dont throw your pearls to pigs..
Also how can an atheist have an opinion on what good or bad is, is that not just a matter of opinion? From where do they derive their actual morals and values from? Society? well I would hate to be a jew during the German final solution during that time in that warped society, oh and your not like that are you? Wait and see what you go along with, or are you already pro abortion.
No your wrong he does believe christianity is true.
Also Dr Peterson has made millions from his books and speaking engagements. He speaks what he believes and he speaks truth reaching millions.
I have seen him in debates with television stations in europe and in the west.
I have seen about 7 different videos on youtube where he gave a psychological take on the biblical stories. He spoke to packed auditoriums
I saw him lecturing on sumerian myth, nazies, and chaos and order when he taught at universities,
I saw him lecturing on m.a.i.d in my country of canada.
I saw him lecturing on the atheist/communist soviet union while killed about 70,000,000 people to 100,000,000 people in the great leap forward, killing fields and the gulags.
I have seen him interviewed on Joe Rogan twice or three times,
I saw him fighting for free speech in my country
and I am halfway through reading 12 rules for life.
I have learned about history, psychology, religion, myth, nazi germany, communism, genocide, alexander solzhenitsyn, Friedrich Nietzsche, Carl Jung, Sigmund Freud, Dostoyevsky, Jesus, Moses, Abraham, Joshua, The epic of Gilgamesh, the Enumalish,
and many other topics. He certainly has given me many helpful practices in my life from thinking to living, and my faith also has been conceptualised to another dynamic.
also he encouraged me to get order in my life and as such I cleaned my room
I think he is one of the most intelligent men to walk the earth, right up there with Dostoyevsky and Chris Langene.
thanks for your question.
hope your having as good a day as I am
from canada
peterson gets more lost the older he gets
I think he's always had these insane convictions but that he feels less inhibited about spouting them publicly as time goes on
@@Yossarianhoenikker I feel you may be correct, I've watched him since his very first appearance online on that campus, he did eventually, slowly introduce religious values, then particularly after his first book I felt he went into long, deep detail on theology. I feel that since then, something like 5 years ago, he has progressively unravelled into focusing on it entirely.
I did find him admit to a spiritual experience as a child, I think it was a debate with Sam Harris or Matt Dillahunty. Both of whom had him speechless, quite worth watching. He absolutely believes that religion is integral to the functioning of humanity, which I can definitely entertain but not fully subscribe to.
hahahaha!
Dawkins always wins- only because he respects science and facts.
Jesus Christ has been the most loving, kind, wise and powerful person to walk the earth. He has had millions of followers in the past willing to die in his name and billions worship him as God today.
In fact 2.5 billion people worship Jesus Christ as their God, who took on flesh and walked among the very creations he himself made, his mission on earth to undo all evil, sin, death and suffering from Satan's work of destroying humanity.
He healed the sick, raised the dead, taught the nations, helped the lost, fed the poor, gave sight to the blind, gave hearing to the deaf, healed the possessed, and died on a cross for all who would accept his free gift of salvation for their sins.
Jesus is on every continent, in almost every language, biblical teachings are the foundation to western society and millions of books, paintings, art, songs, plays, teachings, sermons are all about Jesus.
Even time itself was split according to his arrival on earth. BC and AD. Sadly secular society tried to make the timeline not in reference to Jesus but the Gregorian calendar is still used by some.
Persecution of christians is the most prevalent type of prejudice but his followers still follow him.
You can still make a pilgrimage to see Bethlehem, Nazareth, capernaum, Jerusalem, calvary, golgotha and many other places Jesus walked talked and died for mankind's sins.
2.5 billion people worship Jesus as their God. 1.8 billion muslims see Jesus as a prophet and 1 billion Hindus see Jesus as a good teacher, reincarnation or avatar. Almost everyone in the world knows about Jesus
The Greatest Man in History… Jesus; Had no servants, yet they called Him Master. Had no degree, yet they called Him Teacher. Had no medicines, yet they called Him Healer. He had no army, yet kings feared Him. He won no military battles, yet He conquered the world. He did not live in a castle, yet they called Him Lord, He ruled no nations, yet they called Him King, He committed no crime, yet they crucified Him. He was buried in a tomb, yet He lives today
Jordan clearly transcends Dawkins
Actually he is a fool.
@@jacksonelmore6227 Amen.
@@jacksonelmore6227 What a joke, Dawkins asked him if he believed in the virgin birth and Peterson started referencing different works of fiction. lol
17 minutes of a guy avoiding answering a simple yes or no question.
Jordan B Peterson. Raised in northern Alberta. Has flown a hammerhead roll in a carbon fiber stunt plane, built a ceremonial brighouse on the top of his home after being invited to by the Canadian first nations people.
He has been a dishwasher, gas jockey, bartender, short order cook, bee-keeper, oil derrick re-tipper, plywood mill labourer, and railway line worker.
He has taught mythology to lawyers, doctors and business people, consulted for the UN secretary general panel for sustainable development.
Dr Peterson has helped his clients to manage depression, obsessive compulsive, anxiety and schizophrenia.
Served as an adviser to senior partners in major Canadian law firms.
He has identified thousands of entrepreneurs in sixty different countries.
He has lectured extensively in europe and north america.
He has published more than 100 scientific papers.
He is an expert in communism and nazismn.
He was a Harvard professor and was nominated for the Levenson teaching prize.
His tenure at university of Toronto saw him being considered as one of three truly life changing professors.
He is a quora most viewed writer.
Dr Peterson has given hope to many who were lost, he has millions of people who attend his lectures on biblical, mythological and religious and psychological themes.
He is a beacon for free speech and free expression.
His teaching and books were one variable among many that helped me to learn about Nietzsche's, Dostoevsky and Solzhenitsyn. He has brought hope and blessings to millions
I feel compassion for all of you that hate him, he is one of the most intelligent people that are on earth.
He has dedicated his life to helping people and he is hated.
No your wrong he does believe christianity is true.
Also Dr Peterson has made millions from his books and speaking engagements. He speaks what he believes and he speaks truth reaching millions.
I have seen him in debates with television stations in europe and in the west.
I have seen about 7 different videos on youtube where he gave a psychological take on the biblical stories. He spoke to packed auditoriums
I saw him lecturing on sumerian myth, nazies, and chaos and order when he taught at universities,
I saw him lecturing on m.a.i.d in my country of canada.
I saw him lecturing on the atheist/communist soviet union while killed about 70,000,000 people to 100,000,000 people in the great leap forward, killing fields and the gulags.
I have seen him interviewed on Joe Rogan twice or three times,
I saw him fighting for free speech in my country
and I am halfway through reading 12 rules for life.
I have learned about history, psychology, religion, myth, nazi germany, communism, genocide, alexander solzhenitsyn, Friedrich Nietzsche, Carl Jung, Sigmund Freud, Dostoyevsky, Jesus, Moses, Abraham, Joshua, The epic of Gilgamesh, the Enumalish,
and many other topics. He certainly has given me many helpful practices in my life from thinking to living, and my faith also has been conceptualised to another dynamic.
also he encouraged me to get order in my life and as such I cleaned my room
I think he is one of the most intelligent men to walk the earth, right up there with Dostoyevsky and Chris Langene.
thanks for your question.
hope your having as good a day as I am
from canada
Whether you agree with him or not, Dawkin’s comments are a lazer beam that hits the mark every time. Peterson’s are disco ball, scattering light in all directions.
True. And you can even see him dancing while he answers.
That made me not merely laugh, but scream for a few seconds!! Brilliant description of both!
JP is not being clever, over on his channel his followers are saying Dawkins doesn't understand JPs argument for truth in the utility of Christianitys beliefs. He does understand and is pointing out that JP is answering a different question of truth not the one being put to him.🤦🏻♂️
I think actually that as close an accurate description as I've seen, from what I can tell JP's reluctance to say the biblical stories that fly in the face of scientific fact are almost certainly allegorical stem perhaps from a fear that such an admission would somehow undermine his position, when I think about it I wouldn't take issue even if Peterson was to say the he personally believes them to be factual but he has no evidence for that and the ultimate value derived from the story is an allegorical/mythical value rather than a cast Iron truth claim, ultimately I think that's what he was getting at but didn't quite manage to express it very well.
@@sonny2dapWell tbf Dawkins wasn't asking Peterson to prove it. Dawkins asked if he believes that Jesus died for our sins. At the end of the day if JP said "yes, I believe it" then discussion halts there. Can't talk about science and math at that point. So, what is Dawkins supposed to do when he doesn't believe in any of that shit. It's just gonna be an argument of metaphors that in reality doesn't mean anything.
@@sonny2dap no need to complicate things here.... we all know by now Jordan Peterson doesn't have the balls or the intellect to call a "banana", a "banana". Religious Jordan is a disgrace to human intellect, as simple as that.
Peterson knew exactly what you were saying and what he was being asked. He didn't want to answer, so he just spewed out some word salad, hoping people would forget what he'd actually been asked.
It's difficult to debate someone that is unwilling to engage with reality or give an answer that makes sense.
@@RockoBam1 what if the quantum mechanics of the implicit response was the foundational basis of the universal reality? If we seek adequately enough with the resolve of ancestral rome, the realm of absolute truth would be evident in the physical as well as the quantum level. Surely supercalafragilisticexpialadotious would quantify such a well grounded response 😁. That's the best waffle i could put together in under a minute lol. Doesn't need to make sense just needs to be articulated lol
Jordan B Peterson. Raised in northern Alberta. Has flown a hammerhead roll in a carbon fiber stunt plane, built a ceremonial brighouse on the top of his home after being invited to by the Canadian first nations people.
He has been a dishwasher, gas jockey, bartender, short order cook, bee-keeper, oil derrick re-tipper, plywood mill labourer, and railway line worker.
He has taught mythology to lawyers, doctors and business people, consulted for the UN secretary general panel for sustainable development.
Dr Peterson has helped his clients to manage depression, obsessive compulsive, anxiety and schizophrenia.
Served as an adviser to senior partners in major Canadian law firms.
He has identified thousands of entrepreneurs in sixty different countries.
He has lectured extensively in europe and north america.
He has published more than 100 scientific papers.
He is an expert in communism and nazismn.
He was a Harvard professor and was nominated for the Levenson teaching prize.
His tenure at university of Toronto saw him being considered as one of three truly life changing professors.
He is a quora most viewed writer.
Dr Peterson has given hope to many who were lost, he has millions of people who attend his lectures on biblical, mythological and religious and psychological themes.
He is a beacon for free speech and free expression.
His teaching and books were one variable among many that helped me to learn about Nietzsche's, Dostoevsky and Solzhenitsyn. He has brought hope and blessings to millions
I feel compassion for all of you that hate him, he is one of the most intelligent people that are on earth.
He has dedicated his life to helping people and he is hated.
Richard Dawkins... just amazing... one of the greatest.
If humans were made in gods’ image, then we should be invisible.
I like that one 😅
Oh fantastic. May I borrow that from time to time?
@@beefandbarley
I borrowed it. Pass it on.
Oh dang, now I want beef and barley soup. 😜
@@catalhuyuk7 It’s good isn’t it? 😄
And now I really want to visit Catalhuyuk!
This was painful to watch. Peterson spoke word salad for 59 minutes whilst Dawkins sat back and gave simple one word answers to his nonsense.
They always avoid the real questions because they can't answer it.
Do what you want its freedom of speech.
We see buses driving around that say “ there is probably no God so why not enjoy your life” ……dont be silenced by the haters and the new atheists in their new religion.
Remember atheism was the reason for the gulags, the great leap forward and the killing fields.
Nietzsche and Dostoevsky both predicted the coming butchery from Stalin, Pot and Mao and the death toll reached from 70-100 million dead. That's 100,000,000 people massacred from three regimes and three men.
Remember with “God is Dead” you get bloodshed. The Salem witch trials killed 7 the atheist regimes of the 20th century killed 70 million.
Also Alexander Solzenitzyn wrote about the insane evil massacres in his book the “Gulag Archipelago” which is now required reading in Russia and by the way it basically brought down the communist/atheistic soviet union.
Atheists many of whom are brilliant and than there are those who have not done the job of atheism and that is the seeking of all knowledge about all claims of this universe beginning.
Some atheists are as bad as our Fred Phelps and Kenneth Copeland's.
Even though we have our Ravi Zacharias's and Stephen Meyers and John Lennox.
keep preaching man
Jesus commanded it but be wise, dont throw your pearls to pigs..
Also how can an atheist have an opinion on what good or bad is, is that not just a matter of opinion? From where do they derive their actual morals and values from? Society? well I would hate to be a jew during the German final solution during that time in that warped society, oh and your not like that are you? Wait and see what you go along with, or are you already pro abortion.
So after watching the video and reading some comments my question is simple. How is humanity better served by having no religion?
Society is best served by the truth and religion is not the truth. The challenge is for weak people to adopt a
Philosophy that embraces the truth and yet still sees optimism and hope to move forward despite the dire situation we are all in. This is sometime referred to as the Stockdale paradox, named after Admiral Stockdale a POW from the Vietnam war.
@ChrisHodges87 you have a flaw in your logic. The proof of a diety is unfalsifiable. I'm assuming you use this fact for saying God doesn't exist. That's a scientific fact. The flaw stems from science as well. Anything before the singularity is unfalsifiable too. With both being unfalsifiable we can't do anything but wait for science to catch up. Your "Truth" just went out the window.
Peterson never misses the opportunity to use 1000 words to express what could be said in 20.
Exactly, it’s as if he thinks a large vocabulary makes for intelligence. It doesn’t because he can so rarely make himself understood.
Well, in fairness, I've also been accused of that fish cupboard antelope teeth....
Jesus died for our sins? How did that help?
Metaphorically?
Ok, metaphorically, how did that help?@@DeconvertedMan
@@Yossarianhoenikker I'm not sure, needs more word salad. :D
In Holy Quran 2:261,And remember when Abraham said, ‘My Lord, show me how Thou givest life to the dead.’ He said, ‘Hast thou not believe?’ He said, ‘Yes, but I ask this so that my heart may be at rest.’ He answered, ‘Take four birds and make them attached to thyself. Then put each of them on a hill; then call them; they will come to thee in haste. And know that Allah is Mighty and Wise.’ Besides the afterlife, there is reference to 4 nations that shall rise and fall in ways know to Allah: 1. Nabi Musa was a Great law- bearing Prophet sent for the tribes of Israel with commandments and verities of wisdom that was suited for the Children of Israel at that stage of spiritual and physical requirements. 2. Prophet Isa (Jesus’ peace be upon Him) was the Messiah sent by God to guide the various Tribes of Israel according to the true teachings of the Torah and with the Gospel. He came about 1300 years after Prophet Musa. 3. The Holy Prophet Muhammed is the Last Great law -bearing prophet sent for the whole of mankind with blessings of spiritual guidance and signaling physical/ economic/ secular/technological blessings. 4. The Promised Messiah Nabi Ahmad was sent by God to guide people to the true teachings of the Holy Quran. In the time of the Promised Messiah there are various spiritual blessings and signaling physical/secular/economic/technological blessings. He arrived about 1300 years after the Holy Prophet.
Also, he was dead for 3 days…. Like, it’s not much of a death is it….
clearly JP is the winner
of question dodger. give him a medal.
Jordan Peterson is the definition of "intellectual dishonesty". I've never heard a man used so many words without saying anything.
@ 0:40 JP goes: "I'm not trying to play a trick here¨... Yes you are, you've just told us you are.
I agree, because if he wasn't, he wouldn't have felt the need to point out he wasn't. It wouldn't have even occurred to him.
Mr Peterson is not religious. Hes just recognised that being religious is very profitable atm. Faith cannot be justified through words. Its a sense of feeling not truth.
One is an intelligent honest man, the other a pretentious circus act. They shouldn't even be talking to each other.
Yes your right! The theories of evolution and the undeniable fact that life comes from preexisting life shows that evolutionists indeed are in a pretentious circus
@@nigelmcculloch3746Nice try there, bud 😂
@VA-gu1jq thanks, I have a different opinion on the subject of how life came to be on the earth, sometimes sarcasm is appropriate in response to people who know very little about the empty, mindless evolution theories yet belittle the evidence that points the other way
@@nigelmcculloch3746 lol.. all those words to say nothing. you are just like Jordan.
@@nigelmcculloch3746 What makes you think the fact that life comes from preexisting life is an undeniable fact?
10 seconds in and my brain is screaming: Answer the f... question!!
God how f... exhausting!
I just watched the whole discussion. I didn't realize how unhinged JP had become. Utter rambling nonsense.
yeah, i notice it a lot, he is mad.
Does he think he'll get into some kind of trouble if he just answers the f@@$$ question?
Yes
@@jasoncraig2281 He will lose some of his following
@grayy10k
3 years ago (edited)
He's the type of professor where you won't say a WORD in his class. Undivided attention and respect
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He will loose his large religious fanbase ... Meaning he will make less money
hehehe, right.
JP does 90% of the talking without saying anything. Very Trump like.
Spot on.
Do what you want its freedom of speech.
We see buses driving around that say “ there is probably no God so why not enjoy your life” ……dont be silenced by the haters and the new atheists in their new religion.
Remember atheism was the reason for the gulags, the great leap forward and the killing fields.
Nietzsche and Dostoevsky both predicted the coming butchery from Stalin, Pot and Mao and the death toll reached from 70-100 million dead. That's 100,000,000 people massacred from three regimes and three men.
Remember with “God is Dead” you get bloodshed. The Salem witch trials killed 7 the atheist regimes of the 20th century killed 70 million.
Also Alexander Solzenitzyn wrote about the insane evil massacres in his book the “Gulag Archipelago” which is now required reading in Russia and by the way it basically brought down the communist/atheistic soviet union.
Atheists many of whom are brilliant and than there are those who have not done the job of atheism and that is the seeking of all knowledge about all claims of this universe beginning.
Some atheists are as bad as our Fred Phelps and Kenneth Copeland's.
Even though we have our Ravi Zacharias's and Stephen Meyers and John Lennox.
keep preaching man
Jesus commanded it but be wise, dont throw your pearls to pigs..
Also how can an atheist have an opinion on what good or bad is, is that not just a matter of opinion? From where do they derive their actual morals and values from? Society? well I would hate to be a jew during the German final solution during that time in that warped society, oh and your not like that are you? Wait and see what you go along with, or are you already pro abortion.
Trump is absolutely nothing like that
I find Trump to be quite the opposite. Most of his haters being feminists, woke and socialist types.
Also did you know atheist socialists are responsible for the most deaths in history, more than all of ww2 combined. Seriously true story.
When Mao, Stalin and Pot enacted the killing fields, gulags and great leap forward they killed between 70,000,000 to 100,000,000 people. This all happened after ww2 in China, Cambodia and Russia.
Crazy evil thing those atheists did.
anyway have a great day.
I wish you the best.
Jordan B Peterson. Raised in northern Alberta. Has flown a hammerhead roll in a carbon fiber stunt plane, built a ceremonial brighouse on the top of his home after being invited to by the Canadian first nations people.
He has been a dishwasher, gas jockey, bartender, short order cook, bee-keeper, oil derrick re-tipper, plywood mill labourer, and railway line worker.
He has taught mythology to lawyers, doctors and business people, consulted for the UN secretary general panel for sustainable development.
Dr Peterson has helped his clients to manage depression, obsessive compulsive, anxiety and schizophrenia.
Served as an adviser to senior partners in major Canadian law firms.
He has identified thousands of entrepreneurs in sixty different countries.
He has lectured extensively in europe and north america.
He has published more than 100 scientific papers.
He is an expert in communism and nazismn.
He was a Harvard professor and was nominated for the Levenson teaching prize.
His tenure at university of Toronto saw him being considered as one of three truly life changing professors.
He is a quora most viewed writer.
Dr Peterson has given hope to many who were lost, he has millions of people who attend his lectures on biblical, mythological and religious and psychological themes.
He is a beacon for free speech and free expression.
His teaching and books were one variable among many that helped me to learn about Nietzsche's, Dostoevsky and Solzhenitsyn. He has brought hope and blessings to millions
I feel compassion for all of you that hate him, he is one of the most intelligent people that are on earth.
He has dedicated his life to helping people and he is hated.
Great answer Richard Dawkins.You talk with simplicity,thanks.😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅
The first time I heard Peterson speak, I thought he was very impressive. He now seems either to have lost it, or got in far out of his depth.
Jordan Peterson seems so disingenuous I lost all respect for him 😑😐
That happens when you try to defend nonSense(religions) when you confronts wisdom and logic, peterson is good in talking and knock off woke people but not good enough to confront Dawkins a.k.a wisdom and reality
I’m sure he is losing sleep over having lost you….
Prof. Dawkins has provided the insight I needed on my path of spiritual growth. Thank you. I still have the letter addressed to his little daughter about different forms of religion on my laptop- comparing different cultures to different kinds of fish in the ocean.
I feel a distinct "oneness" with the whole of the natural world - a certain "breath" throughout the universe that cannot be named nor understood - a devine Spirit dwelling in all of creation whom nobody or group of people can claim as his or their own. So, religion has no place in my life. It causes division, confusion and is restrictive.
Thank you for quoting a beautiful letter of prof.Dawkins to his young granddaughter. It's so utterly beautiful!I ❤I love what he expressed+explained to her in that letter .There's nothing more phenomenal than truth and we should stand by the truth. I believe that the whole life is miraculous!
No your wrong he does believe christianity is true.
Also Dr Peterson has made millions from his books and speaking engagements. He speaks what he believes and he speaks truth reaching millions.
I have seen him in debates with television stations in europe and in the west.
I have seen about 7 different videos on youtube where he gave a psychological take on the biblical stories. He spoke to packed auditoriums
I saw him lecturing on sumerian myth, nazies, and chaos and order when he taught at universities,
I saw him lecturing on m.a.i.d in my country of canada.
I saw him lecturing on the atheist/communist soviet union while killed about 70,000,000 people to 100,000,000 people in the great leap forward, killing fields and the gulags.
I have seen him interviewed on Joe Rogan twice or three times,
I saw him fighting for free speech in my country
and I am halfway through reading 12 rules for life.
I have learned about history, psychology, religion, myth, nazi germany, communism, genocide, alexander solzhenitsyn, Friedrich Nietzsche, Carl Jung, Sigmund Freud, Dostoyevsky, Jesus, Moses, Abraham, Joshua, The epic of Gilgamesh, the Enumalish,
and many other topics. He certainly has given me many helpful practices in my life from thinking to living, and my faith also has been conceptualised to another dynamic.
also he encouraged me to get order in my life and as such I cleaned my room
I think he is one of the most intelligent men to walk the earth, right up there with Dostoyevsky and Chris Langene.
thanks for your question.
hope your having as good a day as I am
from canada
Peterson got smoked there, goddamn