The Best Concealed Carry Gun!
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- Опубліковано 9 лип 2024
- Here it is. One of the most debated and controversial topics in the gun world. What is the Best Concealed Carry Gun available? My cousin Brian is dead set on the idea that the 3" 1911 is the best concealed carry option that money can buy. He makes a strong argument but that's still a really bold statement.
Listen to what he has to say and then let me know down in the comments, what do you think is the best concealed carry gun out there?
In the beginning you say that the reliability of a 1911 can't be beat, and at the end you say it's high maintenance and that Glocks are more reliable.
I have had both Glocks and many variants of the 1911. My 1911's have proven every bit as reliable as my Glocks.
Actually, what he said is that you need to run the gun "wet". In other words, just keep it oiled. I'm not talking dripping wet. There are a ton of videos on properly oiling a 1911. If it's a carry gun, that certainly is never an issue, as smart people maintain the gun they use for CC.
Tony Curtis liar.
That is a truly silly statement - Tony's response is correct.
I watched the video one year hence and stand by my previous statement: Brian goes from declaring the 3" 1911 to be the best concealed handgun ever made, to saying that it's finicky, high maintenance and needs special treatment to be reliable, while a Glock will fire every time no matter what in the space of five minutes. That's called cognitive dissonance.
He also says there's not a single person in the world who won't argue that the 1911 has the best trigger in the world. Clearly this is not true.
He also seems to imply that the 1911 is a particularly safe gun to carry. Everything he mentions in that regard can be said about a slew of other guns. The 1911 is also heavy AF and I'm just not willing to carry two pounds of steel in my pants going about my day.
I really don't have a dog in the fight (I only make this comment to point out the inconsistencies in cousin Brian's reasoning). I own both Glocks and 1911s that I like and enjoy shooting recreationally and keep for home defense, but I would never carry either due to bulk and weight considerations. Whenever I carry (frankly, not that often), it's a smaller gun, like a S&W Shield 9mm or even a Ruger LCP. I just don't buy into the stopping power legend of the .45 ACP, but to each his own. I think I've read somewhere that more people are killed with .22LR than any other caliber, but I might be wrong.
The capacity of any given firearm is a moot point for me because I can't carry anything with more than 10 rounds in the magazine in my state legally anyway (thanks, Gov. Malloy!). I know it's become somewhat of a cliché, but the best carry gun in the world is the one you have when you need it. Just make sure you're proficient with it when that time comes (hopefully never).
Peace.
Good response - my comment about a silly statement was in response to "Un-Named Trucker" no to you.
Beginning of video: "You cannot beat the reliability of the 1911"
End of video: "Unlike a Glock, where it's gonna go bang every time you pull the trigger, if this isn't clean and wet it's probably not gonna be as reliable"
Hmmmmmm.......
John Montgomery yup, you nailed it. if you want a pretty carry get a small 1911. if you want a reliable gun get a Glock, Springfield, Sig, HK, M&P, etc...
Somehow I started watching this again 8 months later and stopped the video once again when he said that "the 1911 is a very reliable pistol because its been around 100 years" - hahahaha The 3" 1911 has a history of being horribly unreliable. Hey, I love 1911's, but they take some work to get them to run reliably.
@@lucienblue4763 you do realize Springfield makes a 1911 right?!
Glenn Davis I got a few hundred rounds through my Kimber Ultra Carry 2, no failures yet. But you should clean and oil them after every range session. Not sure if I will ever use it as my EDC, but if I get 500 rds through it with a good defensive round at at least a 100 I may start carrying it cause it’s easy to conceal!
@@lucienblue4763 Springfield 1911 or striker fired?
even 1911 guys realize that 3" 1911s are not reliable. This guy should have done his research. in my opinion, the 1911 is like men's jewelry. It is just a pretty gun. The ultimate conceal carry is a subcompact polymer pistols that accept full size magazines, period.
DEADeyeEFFECT glock 26 ftw, ha
Somehow I started watching this again 8 months later and stopped the video once again when he said that "the 1911 is a very reliable pistol because its been around 100 years" - hahahaha The 3" 1911 has a history of being horribly unreliable. Hey, I love 1911's, but they take some work to get them to run reliably.
I've owned my Kimber Ultra Carry II since 2011 firing 1000+ rounds. Never a failure and accurate.
I carried a 1911A-1 in Indochina for ten months in combat. Every time, fully operational and accurate. The following two years I carried a 1911A-1 on the Berlin Wall.
I own a 99 year old World War I Army issue 1911 (pre A-1). I take it to the range often. Everytime, fully operational, Gold Cup accurate and all original parts.
Keeping any weapon clean is key. Familiarity and practice essential.
Pardon me please. I don't believe you.
That is your privilege to believe or disbelieve whatever you wish. Perhaps you should have been there?
No, but my Dad was. Purple Heart recipiant.
+James Dale I have no idea how these clowns can doubt a handgun thats been Proven in service for over a hundred years.
My guess is they blew their wad on a plastic gun and now must defend that low end purchase
1st Thank you for your service. I have 3 Kimbers and a Springfield Armory Stainless Loaded, I never had a malfunction in any of the firearms.
If you guys think a tiny subcompact Kimber is the ultimate concealed carry gun... I want some of whatever it is you're smokin'. That's an expert's gun, they need TLC, a lot of upkeep and a lot of practice for proficiency.
"You can't beat the reliability of a 1911!?!?! Except with a SIG or a Glock or an M&P or H&K or FNH or Kahr....
+toadamine Exactly. 1911s suck. Defies the mental mechanics principal. Single action when necessary, double action when required. That's a combat firearm.
They suck so badly that they were the side arm for the American military for 80+ years; through 2 world wars, the Korean War, and Vietnam. They suck so badly that many special operators still choose the 1911 as their side arm..........
See my comment above. Thanks.
toadamine 😂
with kimber the guns they are using h&k are the only ones that really keep up 1911 have to wide of a variety to say they are the most reliable but kimber manufacture some of the best guns in the high end non collectable market with h&k, glock sig etc are mid range they are good but not as long lasting they have generations like phones they are made to be replaced.
best carry gun of all time is the one you can get your shots on target under stress.
I personally have a hi-point cf380 and am waiting the arrival of my Polish P64 in 9x18 makarov. My wife's best carry gun is her industrial law enforcement grade 6 shooter of pepper spray...
the "best" is subjective to each shooter.
H&K USP Compact. All the advantages you just listed, none of the drawbacks.
3yrs and still a flawless performer; my Custom Kimber Ultra Covert II. This 3" 45acp has yet to fail shooting a wide variety of ammunition. With a 4 pound trigger and easy to see sights, what is not to love? The Crimson Trace laser just makes target acquisition all the more assuring. We all have our favorites, but a 3" 1911 is awesome.
I have a Colt Lightweight Officer's Model which I have had for close to 30 years. I have had a little gunsmithing done to it, and I use Tripp Research Cobra Mags. It is reliable. No jams. However, the one thing is, the bullets it shoots come out slow. If I shoot some hot +P stuff then muzzle blast and recoil become an issue, and even then the bullets are still not that fast. A Commander is not that much bigger nor harder to conceal, yet it yields much better ballistics.
to each their own, I carry a Kimber pro every day. thousands of hours drawing,sighting, clearing , firing.
both hot and cold.
I own and have owned over 100 handguns. I chose the commander size 1911. maybe I'm an idiot,but then again, maybe I aint!!
A commander size , in .45,is a much more reliable gun , than a 3” in .45, top 1911 makers don’t go smaller than 3.8”-4”, commanders are a much more reliable size?
Hello, I noticed that “stopping power” was mentioned in a couple of your videos. Stopping power/knock down power in regards to hand guns is an invalid term (FBI, various agencies and ballistics research has concluded). When it comes to putting down a subject it is about shot placement and penetration. Recently a neighboring agency put 6 rounds of .40 S&W (hollow point +P) and .45 ACP (non hollows) into a subject before the individual went down. The individual not only survived but was walking around 4 days later. Two of the rounds are still in the subject at the time I posted this. I enjoy watching your videos keep it up guys.
I carry a Kimber Ultra TLE also. I'm 52 and grew up with 1911's and that's what I'm comfortable with. Yeah, other guns may need less upkeep. But in my opinion, taking care of your gun is part of owning it no matter how reliable you think it is. That's like buying a a new car and not maintaining it. I had three jams in my first 100 rounds. None since. I'm about 500 rounds into it. Also switched to Wilson mags. The single action trigger, the safety and reliability are top notch. I carry mine every day. I never leave home without it. I'm not sure why some of you guys complain about the weight of the gun. If 25 ounces is too much of a load for you, step down to something smaller and more manageable for you. Not that I'm calling you a wuss or anything. But it's a 45, not a 380. The bottom line is carry what works for you. Even all the UA-cam "experts" are going to have prejudices either for or against just about any gun. But if it's reliable and you train with it like you should, then whatever gun feels right to you is what you should carry. I'm not going to talk trash about Glock or XDs. They're just not right for me personally.
This shooter's humble opinion: The fact that it's so high maintenance in comparison to a Glock which will fire every time regardless of upkeep, knocks it of the top list off the bat. At the $1,300 price range that thing better be full of mud and still fire. When you carry concealed (for the most part) it's because you need that reliability to get you out of a sticky situation and if you lack that reliability due to maintenance then it seems like that wouldn't be my top choice. Also I'm not crazy about it having a hammer and the lip under it. For concealed they shoulda gotten rid of it. The less you have to snag on the better. Still, thank you so much for the video. You guys are awesome, keep up the good work and God bless!
I recently purchased a Colt Defender defender in 45 ACP with the intent of it becoming my carry gun. Amazingly accurate handgun. It does pack a punch and more training will be needed before I’m comfortable carrying it. But definitely an interesting alternative. Thank you for the video.
One of my issues of this argument is the caliber! The .45 is already slow leaving a 5 in barrel! Now you gonna fire it from a 3 in barrel! Also! Love when people talk about stopping power and handguns! Hahaha
For me it's Kimber Pro Carry II
What 3 inch 1911 do you recommend for concealed carry. Does cot have a 3 inch 1911 45 acp
I'd say LCR 357 revolver. Slim, 5 shots, an insane amount of stopping power, and it's a revolver, so you're never going to get jammed. You don't even have to take it out of your pocket to shoot it -- like in a hostage situation.
at what range should you engage with a 3 inch barrel 1911 45 acp?
As I read many of the comments below I came away with following impressions: 1: Many comments were made with no supporting information so I disregarded them immediately. 2: If you need, or feel compelled to use four letter words to emphasize your point, or feel compelled to call someone who disagrees with you names, it is a weak point at best, again disregarded. 3: The best concealed carry gun is one that is accurate, comfortable to shoot so you will practice a lot with it, one you can trust in an emergency, and one which will handle ammunition with adequate stopping power.
I spent a career in the Military - MSG US Army (retired). I have chosen a Commander size (4.25" barrel) 1911 as my carry gun. It is heavy, but for 45ACP that is a good thing in my opinion. Why the 1911 over the Glock or any other striker fired gun? The first and foremost reason is that I personally can not get comfortable with a gun that only has only a trigger safety. In a high stress situation, or even in practice drawing and firing, it is too easy for the trigger finger to slip inside the guard and arm the pistol as it is coming out of the holster. I know it should not happen, and I am sure the with adequate practice it probably would not, but there is a reason the NYPD has the NY Trigger installed in their Glock sidearms. To me the grip safety (1911, Springfield XD series, etc.) is critical for overall safety with a gun I carry loaded and cocked. I can do anything I want with either of my 1911's loaded and cocked and if the pistol is not firmly seated in my hand it will not go off because of the grip safety - it does make checking the weight of the trigger pull a real pain but it can be done. In addition, when I practice drawing my gun the very last thing that happens as the gun comes level to shoot is that my right thumb comes down on top of the slide safety so I have not had a problem trying to fire the gun with the slide safety on. In fact even when shooting from the bench my trigger hand thumb uses the slide safety as thumb rest.
I have read the comments below with respect to reliability.My response is: first and foremost every gun every made needs to have proper maintenance (yes, including the Glock). They should be periodically cleaned, lubed and inspected, at least every thousand rounds or so. My experience is that with reasonable (not high) maintenance I have found both of my 1911's to be completely reliable, fun and comfortable to shoot accurately, easy to take down and clean, easy to reassemble and use with any 45ACP ammo I have chosen to use. That is true as well for my Beretta 92FS Brigadier and any 9mm Ammo I choose. Both the 1911 and the 92FS (M9) platforms are outstanding designs with proven records over decades of time. I would trust my life to either in a heart beat.
NOTE: I know people who swear by Glocks and have told me they have never had to clean them or inspect them - so be it. As far as I am concerned they are simply looking for a failure at the very worst time - when you really need the gun. There is no question that the Glock reliable and accurate gun. Keep in mind, though, that they are machines with moving parts that undergo a lot force with discharge, recoil, and the bolt/slide slamming back into battery. As that happens over and over, parts wear, springs weaken and parts become dirty potentially fouling the operation. So, If you bought a Glock so that you could fire thousands of rounds without having to clean, lube or maintain it - in my opinion you have no business owning a gun, and as a Senior NCO I would not have tolerated such behavior on the part of the personnel I led. I cared to much for them to risk their lives by having their side arm fail in combat due to poor or lack of maintenance.
I'm a firearm addict myself, can't horde enough to suit me, including handguns.. I love everything about the 1911's, but sometimes the prices... I trust steel frame guns more than polymer framed, but I like high capacity guns too... I carry a Springfield Xd Mod 2 45acp, 14 plus 1, but it isn't as pretty as a 1911..... Thanks for sharing your thoughts and opinion on this topic, I appreciate it gentlemen 🔫👍🔫
I have all three 1911 sizes in the Ruger brand. I LOVE them all, but the officer model is my American express, I never leave home without it.
I know this can be debated forever, but much of it is personal preference or splitting hairs. I learned to shoot with a 1911, I know them inside and out, i clean ANY gun after shooting, I WANT to carry a .45, therefore I love carrying my Kimber Ultra Carry II. I've never had a reliability problem of any kind and it hides better than any other .45 that i'm aware of. Its much less expensive without the crimson trace grips. As long as you have a reliable gun of an appropriate caliber that you are thoroughly comfortable shooting WITHOUT HESITATION (or having to think about what switch or button needs to be clicked,) you have the right gun. The closest thing i have to a complaint about the short barreled .45....its LOUD! Do not forget Ear Protection.
His arguments are transparent, meaning they are the same you hear from all M1911 advocates. I have and carry a Colt New Agent with Novak Tritium Night sights (exactly the same as the Colt Defender). I love this firearm. Before you go out and buy a 3" 1911 pistol, you have to consider the ballistics of the round. The 45ACP drops almost 200 fps from the 5" barrel on a Government model to the 3" barrel size. Meaning, you are losing power and effective distance. On the positive side, there is now 45 ACP ammunition that hits harder (ft. lbs.) travels faster (fps), and, more importantly does more damage. I use Underwood .45 ACP +P 120 gr. Xtreme Defender ammo (537 Ft. Lbs., and 1,420 fps). Now on reliability: I have literally fired over 3000 rounds through my New Agent with no malfunctions. However, the range master at Gunsite Academy said that they have never had a 3" 1911 make it through the training program without having a malfunction. I'm just lucky I guess, but it's out there. Glock is a great design with thousands of pistols in operation. They have issues just like everyone else. They require maintenance and repairs. If you don't maintain them, they wear out faster just like the 1911. I clean my weapons after every range day, and run a patch through it when in dusty conditions, it has never failed me. And it's not a maintenance queen. I paid $750 for my pistol 8 years ago, and Colt lists the MSRP at $999. Kimber's Ultra Carry II (3" barrel) is the same price. Having said that, Kimber has a bunch of 3" barrel 1911 models that go as high as $1500, but are you looking for a pretty firearm or a functional man stopper? I own a Govt Model M1911A1, Colt Commander, and the Colt New Agent, all in 45 ACP. Great Guns! But I also have Glocks, Berreta's, Walthers, Siggs, and other firearms. You pick the tool for the job. For CCW and self defense, I chose the Colt New Agent. When I'm in the back country horse back hunting for deer and Elk, I carry a Ruger Redhawk in .44 Rem Mag. The tool for the job!
So it is a $1200 maintenance queen that may just fail you "IF" you don't give it the extra attention it demands.Then in the very next breath you say that a much less expensive polymer gun like a Glock may be stone reliable with less maintenance but the $1200 maintenance queen is still the greatest ccw of all time. Priceless. I think you pretty much POOPED on your own position sir.
Look, I just shot a shot a 1911 for the first time about a week ago and I honestly fell in love with the platform and what I can do with it. I'm honestly interested in carrying one when it comes time for me to actually be able to carry. Not because it's the most reliable gun on the planet, but it's a gun that suits me so damn well and I love the feel of a .45 or probably even a 10mm, I haven't gotten my hands on a 10mm yet, but I assume I'd be quite fond of it as well. When I shot the 1911, it reminded me of when I shot an AK for the first time after my only rifle experiences being with an AR-15 and a Mosin Nagant. The recoil was so distinct to me, it was more than the AR for sure, but it was more wholesome, it was responsive, and I felt confident each time I pulled that trigger. I feel confident when I handled that 1911, it felt like that gun belonged to me. I think that's the most important thing about any duty gun or carry gun, you gotta feel like you own that handgun, that you can shoot that thing instinctively without a second thought. You don't need it to survive being dragged through hell and back, if so, all the better, but as long as that gun is able to perform reliably within the vast majority of reasonable scenarios, you're good! Sometimes, the shooter doesn't choose the gun, the gun chooses him. And I guess the 1911 chose me. Haha
Best carry pistol (for myself) - Kahr K9. Beautiful gun, 100% reliable, small - but maintains a full three finger grip, 0.9in thick, relatively light at 25oz (but is an all steel gun), and holds 7+1 9mm. Easily the best shooter I own as well.
+jensenbeachjay Kahr pistols are the best. I have a K9 and a CW40, both are great carry guns.
+jensenbeachjay The K9 is a sexy gun.
+jensenbeachjay Steel Kahr pistols are super nice, top shelf carry guns. I have an early serial # MK9 I bought new MANY moons ago and it runs like a top. LOVE IT. I will never sell it!
Many "Moons" ago. Good play on words since Rev.Moon's son owns the company!!
I love the MK9 - great pistol
I don't go smaller than a commander size 1911, I dont trust "compact 1911's"
Sounds like you are mimicking James Yeager. The Colt Defender, for example, is widely considered a VERY dependable gun; with a long, proven track record.
Sorry, but I dont go any smaller than a 4.25 in barrel. My preference still stands.
William is right, when shorter then 4.25 the slide stroke get's too short.
I guess I've been very fortunate not to have major issues with my Kimber Super Carry Ultra and Stainless Ultra Carry 2. 1st thing I did was change to Wilson Combat Mags. 2nd during breaking found out which ammo works. Other than that I carry my Glock 30
yeah..i get it.the 1911 was based on a 5 inch platform but the short ones work good once theyre well broken in
I have put about 1,000 rounds through my full size Kimber 1911, and I have had two feed jams - Winchester target ammunition. I was going to get a 3" for carry, and I still thought that way after the first jam. After the second jam though, I am now looking at the Glocks that I used to say I would never own.
I love the 1911. It is a classic and is a blast to shoot. But for a carry weapon I love my m&p 9c, easy to conceal very manageable recoil and with the extended mag I can have 15 rounds to play with. But that's just my preference.
I have a Springfield Armory Range Officer 1911 in 9mm and a Ruger SR1911 in 45 ACP, I do NOT leave them "wet" after cleaning/lubricating and I've not had any problems with them jamming.
the best carry gun is the one you will always have on you..for some it's a pocket 38 snubbed for others it's a full size 1911...for me it's a pocket 380 that I carry every single day
I used to have a Kimber 3" 1911. Never carried it. Mine was not reliable at all. I even sent it back to Kimber and when it came back it was still unreliable. You can see the issues I was having on my youtube page. From what I've heard some 3"ers work great while others simply do not. Maybe it's a roll of the dice. I hear the Colts Defenders are ultra reliable.
Not mine. it spit brass constantly back into my forehead. Back twice to Colt, also the longest turn arounds I've ever experienced. Maybe a lemon, but it's gone!
I carried one for many years, and I still carry a light commander to this day with no issues.
I understand the love for the 1911. I share it and love them too. However not for concealed carry. Not to mention the obvious issues that you mention about keeping it clean and wet and also they are picky in order to avoid jamming issues, they just can't hang with today's polymer striker fired choices. In a larger caliber give me a G27 or an XDS in 45 ACP. I recently bought my first Springfields. An XDS in 45 and a Mod 2 also in 45. I must say WOW. Pull point and pull the trigger on a Glock or Springfield. No need to remember to flip off a safety. In 45 the Mod 2 is amazing, Wonderful trigger ( no not 1911 good but very nice) however a little bulky but not too bad. In 45 ACP the XDS is hands down the nicest package out there. Only draw back is 5 plus one and the trigger is not as sweet as the Mod 2. I just carry a 7 round spare magazine in my pocket. I appreciate the love of the 1911 but don't let that cloud reality. You said it a Glock will go bang. A Springfield will also. If I should ever need it I don't want to worry about it going bang or me forgetting to flip a thumb safety in the heat of the moment. Other than that, love the Ultra carry Kimbers, They are beautiful and a part of my collection but not in my IWB holster. I don't blame you for your love for it or that it is your choice. There are many that share it. However for the person searching UA-cam for advise that may not know any better I don't thing you have given good advise.
I have always been told or read the 1911 experts say that the 1911 was built around the 45acp in a 5 inch configuration and they say to not get one any smaller than the commander size.
If recoil and noise is not a problem, it is almost impossible to beat a .45 expanding round for killing someone. I have seen many shot people as a felony assault detective in a big city. A smaller round with high velocity, and an expanding round will also work. But the .45 with an expanding round, center mass, always killed the people I saw shot with them.
I carry the colt 1911 officers ACP. You will read online that it's unreliable. I bought mine used and did initially have problems. However, a Wilson combat recoil spring and Wilson combat magazines put an end to that. My very small girlfriend and eleven year old son can even shoot it flawlessly even with limited strength. I absolutely love this gun and absolutely agree as the best CCW option.
What about the rock island compact45 how is that at concealing and is it very reliable
My personal choice is a Dan Wesson ECO. Love the gun and the Heinie straight 8 night sights. Using the checkmate mags and all is good to go.
I feel the same way about the safety options.....absolutely right.....matching your skill level and safety threshold. Excellent video!
"If it isn't clean and wet it's probably not gonna be as reliable".... Thats what she said!
The best conceal carry weapon is the one of "YOUR" choice! For me, it is the H&K P30SK chambered in 9mm. Plus, I love the round capacity of 10 +1 along with my addition magazine of 10 rounds....totaling 21 rounds for my CCW.
Great videos love them keep up the good work!
A showcase of your collection of guns would be awesome! Maby a run down of your favorites and why you bought them
Sounds awesome cant wait!
A third downside is the weight. One of my questions is how difficult is it to manipulate the slide like if there was a malfunction? That is something a lot of people forget to look at especially when buying a firearm for their GF or Wife. I got a Walther PPS M2 for my gf because is was the most comfortable and easy to manipulate, not to mention quality. People need to put more money into training than expensive guns. In which case they should always favor shot placement over caliber size. When ever I help someone choose a firearm for EDC, first I go with reliable guns and caliber size based off what they want/need. After those two are settled I always recommend to go with what is most comfortable to handle, manipulate, and shoot.
ive had too many to count but my current fav is the sig p239 chambered in 357 sig...little heavy but that doesnt bother me. the slimline config and extreme reliability is why i love the gun so much. it doesnt only hold 7 plus 1 however i do carry extra mags
This gun is a tank! The slide is CNC machined. The .357 Sig is the magnum rd. I bought the 239 in 9mm. The slide is stamped. To this day. I wish I would have waited for the .357 to come out. You could get it in a Dak trigger too. I believe it was 1996 when it came out. The S and W. 40 cal came out and the .357 was Sig's answer to it. The ammo is costly. But what a round. Shawn
I always thought that the one place that does not matter on a concealed handgun would be barrel length as its hidden in your pants. If the grip is the same why not go with the longer slide to increase velocity as well as sight radius. Some have even said that the longer slide is more reliable than the shorter slide as that is the design that has been around for 100 plus years and is proven. This debate will go on forever. And so long as you are proficient with a reliable firearm all is well.
From your ending comments,
So does anyone make a polymer compact 1911 ?
My, LC9S is my favorite CCW weapon. The best trigger in a compact gun. The size,the price and American made pistol! Shawn
I carry a 4 inch Sig Sauer 1911 .45 ACP have no complaints other than I wish I chose a better finish. The nickle finish just get dirty easier. Great Video and Great info. Personally I am looking to invest in a IWI Jericho Midsize in 40 Cal. Love to hear your thoughts and possibly see a review video from you about the Jericho.
THE MILITARY IS MOVING AWAY FROM THE 1911. The Marines had to do a lot of mods to the weapon to even almost keep up with modern designs.
that's where your wrong, some marine recon units and some of the combat teams in the army still use the 1911
@@butchy586 They are ALL transferring to either the Sig 320/M17 or Glock 19... I'm sorry to break it to you die hard 1911 guys, but that's true!
I have 3 Kimbers ... A 5" stainless match, a 4" Pro CDP II and a 3" ultra. All in 45.
The match doesn't get carried but the other 2 do. All without a single failure of any kind.
I also have 2 Springfield EMPs in 9. A 3" and a 4". Zero failures with over 1000 rnds on both.
I've had more problems with my Colt Gold Cup than any of the others.
However, my most carried will be one of my XDm's, Mod 2s or XDs's ...
The best CCW gun is the one you’re comfortable with, train with, and accurate under stress. I’m a colt lover and conceal a full size colt custom 1911. I train with it every chance I get so I’m accurate and comfortable.
I don't care for a thumb safety or an external hammer on a carry piece. You can train to mitigate those things, but I like to keep it simple especially under stress. I had a compact 1911 carry piece for a while and another issue I found is that they are fussy with non-FMJ ammo (ballistic tip/critical defense etc.). For me, I want something that I can easily draw and all I have to do is pull the trigger and it will go "bang."
I called bullshit when he started talking about stopping power.
I carry a Custom Shop Kimber Ultra CDP2 with a laser grip both open and concealed carry. In fact, I am getting ready to try to ankle-carry it to see if the gun is light enough to do so comfortably. All in all, I love my Kimber and really have not held a finer pistol in terms of quality of construction and solid feel.
So if a GLOCK goes bang every time you pull the trigger (your words), and your Kimber (or any brand 1911) needs so much maintenance to be reliable (i.e. "clean & wet" - again your words), then how do you espouse that it (1911) is the best? To me, your "down side" comments just defeated your initial argument.
The "best" carry gun is unique to each person related to how they carry (IWB, OWB, ankle, etc.), the caliber that they can control (defensive 9MM has great stopping power), and how often they train with it. If the 1911 is the best for you and you're willing to put out $1200-$1300 for it, and spend the additional $$ on 45ACP ammo to train with, that's great, but to say it's hands down the best, is really not the case for everyone.
Great video fellas. I love 1911s huge fan. I think it comes down to personal preference. I personally carry the s&w m&p in 40 compact and I love it. I know we can have the best of both worlds and just carry both guns. Drawing a gun is typically better than reloading anyway :-) carry the kimber and m&p! 👍👍👍
So the point is the 1911 is more reliable but needs more maintenance , Good point totally agree
I've owned the Springfield Armory micro compact (3"), ultra compact (3.5") and still own several champion (4") standard (5") 1911's I'm a large framed guy (265lbs - 50" chest) so you can imagine my hand size as well as my ability to conceal any firearm, however I prefer the champion (4") above all other sizes to carry.
Brian about a minute in says "you can't beat the reliability of a 1911" and then towards the end says "if this is not clean and wet it's probably not going to be as reliable as some of the other polymer guns". There are some really nice 1911s out there but if you are trying to make the argument for best concealed carry gun I think the one that needs less maintenance yet is still highly reliable beats the really expensive gun that needs more maintenance to be as reliable but that's just my $.02.
Just a couple of thoughts; Glocks also need to be lubricated if they haven't been fired in awhile (check the manual). They also jam and can be ammo sensitive. They also aren't the safest guns in the world (more accidental discharges). So, bottom line, if you take care of your gun and practice; the 1911 is best (though I like 9mm)
Although the 1911 is a powerful handgun, when it comes to conceal carry, there is plenty of room here for argument. In my opinion, the best conceal carry gun, by far, is a revolver. As a former police officer and Soldier in the United States Army, I would advise someone who is interested in conceal
My favorite ccw is a J Frame revolver. But at the moment, as a test I'm wearing a Gov't size 1911, inside the waistband, appendix position. Spfd Armory GI. Fits perfectly in my M&P Shield holster. My 2 favorite handguns: the m1911a & snubnose. 38.
I am a 1911 guy my self , I carry my 1911 when Im not working. But wile at work I carry a LCP.
For work I need deep concealment period.
This guy destroyed his whole argument in the end. 1300 bucks and finished with "not as reliable as a glock".
Been carrying my colt defender,Very light,very accurate, Never has it missed a beat And its a 45
Very good presentation with substance!!!
To me the biggest drawback when carrying all day is the heavy weight. I think ALL guns used for personal protection should always be cleaned and maintained, so I don't see that aspect of it as a drawback. Kimber 1911 is definitely my favorite! Kimber recommends that you change the rcoil springs/rod assembly every 1500 rounds. I bought a spare one to have just in case, but after 5000 rounds my Kimber with all its original parts still functions flawlessly like a new gun!
Your first sentence got a downvote. Did you seriously just tell everyone that the 1911 is THE most reliable handgun ever made? Please tell me you're joking... Especially since major manufacturers like Wilson Combat and Nighthawk will no longer make pistols under 3.5" for reliability reasons (I think 3.6 is the lowest Wilson goes and Nighthawk is 3.8). The 1911 was designed to function as a 5" barrel.
That being said, the 1911 is my favorite handgun of all time and a 4" would be one of my top choice concealed carry options, but you are flat-out wrong about the reliability. You said yourself, if it isn't clean and wet, it isn't as reliable as polymer guns and reliability is quite possible the most important factor when selecting a CCW. I can tell you from experience, my father purchased several 3" 1911s from STI which were easily over $1500 each. Not one of them performs reliably out of the box. After 1000rds of break-in, there's still a malfunction every 50th round or so and they are very prone to limp-wristing.
Kimber is notorious for poor quality control and reliability. Please don't make bold claims when lives may depend on it. If you want reliability, go with something proven. You arguably picked the LEAST reliable handgun to ever be produced.
Shame on you.
You had me except for a couple points. 8 round is enough? Who goes into a gun fight wishing they had half the capacity of the other guy? Second, "if it's not clean and wet..." I assume you mean lubricated. I've shot 1911s for over 20 years. They stand the test of time better than any polymer gun, and in fact, if you keep them "wet" they are more likely to have issues in the field or as a nightstand gun due to the gathering of lint/debris on over-lubricated surfaces. Third, I love 45 ACP. My EDC is 45 ACP, 80% of the time. But let's not fool ourselves into thinking "stopping power" is a thing. Energy on target, cavitation and permanent wound channel areas thing. But, how permanent does a wound channel have to be to need someone out in 30 seconds? Energy on target does not stop bad guys. Shutting down the nervous system or taking away the hydraulic pressure of the human body is what stops bad guys. Telling people that they need a bigger round is the same mistake the Feds made when going to the 40 caliber. Rounds on target, either exsanguinating the target or shutting down their brain is what stops them cold.
Fair points. I might argue about the reliability factor, especially of a Kimber, as their QC went out the window years ago. But one of the things you list as a positive I list as a negative. I don't want a 2 1/2 - 3lb trigger pull on a carry gun. Those are competition numbers. Give me a 4-6lb pull for a true every day defensive carry gun.
I enjoyed the video. My normal carry is also a 1911. However, I prefer the commander size, though I loved my Colt Defender (9mm) before I traded up. I have a Wilson Combat professional in 45. Never once has it failed. I keep a log on all my pistols and track any issues. It's the only handgun that I own that hasn't had even one FTF or FTE other than a custom G23 that had specially built.
You touched on it, but with the multiple built in safety measures, I feel the most comfortable carrying a 1911. It's in the cocked and locked position with one in the chamber. You simply aren't going to have an accidental discharge.
The best carry gun is one you will carry. Like many folks, I hate in the waistband and pot for pocket. That means 380 or very small 9mm. Those may not drop an attacker but certainly will make them stop or rethink their attack. Why not do a pocket gun vid, like Diamondback DB389 or 9 or LCP?
Excellent video guys. 1911's hands down are beautiful but for extreme conceal ability, I use M&P 380 Bodyguard 😎
Sounds like a bunch of chickens in here. Glock..glock...glock..glock.gl..GLOCK!
I just bought a XD 45 sub-compact model 2 with the double stack 9 plus one and also a extended mag of 13 it weighs in at 26 ounces and shoots right where I point it with very unuoticable recoil it is I,2 inches wide and is unoticable when I carry it Properly. Great gun so far this thing shoots great
Amen brother! I’m a Sig guy, but carry a Colt and Kimber 3”. Love some 1911
Just bought an ultra tle ll and I love it just Ned the right holster and you're golden Last carry was an air lite S&W 38 like this much better!
Cavemen were carrying rocks hundreds of thousands of years ago, so by your logic THAT is the best carry weapon of ALL TIME! A 3 inch diameter piece of granite in a crossdraw holster is MY preference...
M and p compact 9mm....end of arguement. 9mm , no stopping power? How about shot placement ? Save the rest of your money for magazines, holster and ammo. Still have money left over for a truck gun lol
This question is for anyone that wants to answer. I am Canadian and I am an American citizen through my mother and I am currently applying to confirm my citizenship through the US CONSULTE. I have all the documents I need to prove my case; however, I figure I have about a 50/50 shot of winding up down in the USA. I am checking out guns and I would like to know what would be the best concealed carry hand gun for someone with Zero hand gun experience. Obviously I want to practice at the range when I get down there. I really like the idea of the thumb safety on the 1911's. So I was thinking the Colt Defender in .45 or the EMP IN .40. Maybe I should start with a 9mm. People say the 9mm doesn't have stopping power???? I like the look of the 1911's. But I am NOT mechanically inclined and worry about being able to clean the thing properly and put it back together. Any ideas?
You know what? I agree with Brian. I carry a full size government 1911-A1. As far as the comment "as long as it is wet", that is not true. Because, you don't want it wet just a couple of drops of oil in the slide grooves and on the barrel. Also, a 3" 1911 in .45 is very managable compared to any 9mm. Very good video guys.
Greetings from Kentucky....I own a Colt 3" Defender in 45acp and 31/2" RIA in 45acp. Both are unsurpassed for edc along with my Kahr PM45.....spot-on, trouble free shooters that I trust implicitly with my families well being.
I have a 1969 Colt 1911 government model. The best shooting and most accurate gun I own, The trigger is perfect. That said My carry gun is n M&P shield 45 ACP 2.0. It is lighter, super reliable, hits what you aim at, not the exact precision of my 1911 but it will never fail under pressure.
I was with you until you said about reliability. I clean my guns, but there might be times... Mine absolutely MUST bang EVERY time.
My main EDC is a G19 btw. But in my opinion the best EDC gun ever made is probably the G26. Reliability, firepower, concealability, shootability, infinite aftermarket support. Idk what else you want or need in a CCW.
I have them all Springfield emp 4", m&p, vp9, PPQ, PPS, Fns, SIG 229, Glock. When you make a list of what you want in a concealed carry gun, for me the g19 gen 4, checks off the most items on the list.
Bullshit, I own Colt 1911's in Govt, Commander, Officer and Defender and without a doubt the Officer and Defender are the most unreliable I have. The Commander is my EDC, the recoil springs are just too flakey on the 3" & 3.5".
Of course it depends... For my small'ish wife who likes to appendix carry, a 1911 is too big and too heavy. Also the reliability of a 1911 depends on the model; not all are dependable. My wife carries a Sig P238 which has proven to be extremely reliable, and we go to the range two or three times each month. Every range visit we'll shoot 100-200 rounds. In two years I believe we've only had one or two fail to fire.
I love the looks of this handgun, but there was no doubt before he even said it that this is not a budget gun. Beautiful, but not necessarily affordable. I know there are many handguns out there that make great carry-guns but when I look at reliability along with budget, I'll have to choose the EAA SAR B6P w/3.8" barrel. You certainly can't beat the price ($250-$275) & reliable as well as a good-looking handgun. Just my 2 cents worth!
There's isn't a gun sexier than the 1911, but there's not many topics more controversial than the reliability of a compact 1911
Reliability is the most important thing to me when choosing a CCW, so I'll pass. Good video, though!
+Survivalkraft No kidding right? That is why I have a glock 19.
Guck Foogle That's why I carry the G17!
You must have some big hands but good choice.
2XL in gloves...so the G17 feels perfect.
Yeah I'm size down from that myself. They are very light guns too!
I carry a 1911 and all I got out of him was “MUH stopping power 😤” if you just carry a gun cause you like it just say it. I know there’s way better options than 1911s out there but I just like to carry a 1911
If Brian is comfortable carrying his Kimber, then more power to him. No question it is a really sharp looking firearm, just not something I would carry considering the other options I have.
Recoil on the 3" 1911 Officer model in 45 ACP is substantial especially in a stressful situation... The same high quality 1911 Officer Model carry gun in 9mm has proven to be in the opinions of many old timers in the shooting arena like me the way to proceed into everyday concealed carry... 9mm equals More rounds in the magazine and much more female friendly due to less recoil and quicker return to target between shots which might save one's life on both accounts...
I carry the same gun for the same reasons. But, I don't need the laser, had one took it off. And since I did that I was able to put on the ultra thin Wilson Combat grip panels. Also use the Wilson Combat mags.
Had Kimber hone down the safety lever and slide stop lever, also had them install the smaller grip safety.
And TRAIN often.....................................
Bottom line - Best Carry gun, hands down.........................
( disagree about reliability, goes bang under conditions most handguns fail, trust me, been there, done that, real world combat)
I love 3" 1911; but they are not reliable in the least! Most custom builders don't make 3" for that reason.i have a commander lightweight that is very reliable, but Wilson Combat only will go a bit smaller?
I see some comments say compact 1911's are not reliable.
Why should barrel length, or compactness affect reliability??