Why Carry a 1911? Gun Guys Ep. 39 with Massad Ayoob and Bill Wilson
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- Опубліковано 19 лип 2021
- Why should you carry a 1911? Narrow profile with excellent stopping power. Superb safety features that are easy to manipulate yet confusing to anybody who might get control of your weapon. Soft-shooting comfort, accurate, and easy to control, especially in 9mm. A lifetime of durability. For these reasons and more, the 1911 is still an excellent choice for an every day carry gun, and in this episode, Bill and Mas take an in-depth look at the benefits of the pistol that defined America's military for the greater part of the 20th century.
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ABOUT MASSAD AYOOB:
Massad Ayoob has been handgun editor of GUNS magazine and law enforcement columnist for AMERICAN HANDGUNNER since the 1970s, and has published thousands of articles in gun magazines, martial arts publications, and law enforcement journals. He is the author of some twenty books on firearms, self-defense, and related topics, including “In the Gravest Extreme” and “Deadly Force,” widely considered to be authoritative texts on the topic of the use of lethal force.
The winner of the Outstanding American Handgunner of the Year Award in 1998, Mas has won several state and regional handgun shooting championships. Ayoob was the first person to earn the title of Five Gun Master in the International Defensive Pistol Association. He is the current President of the Second Amendment Foundation. He served 19 years as chair of the Firearms Committee of the American Society of Law Enforcement Trainers, and several years as a member of the Advisory Board of the International Law Enforcement Educators and Trainers Association. In addition to teaching for those groups, he has also taught for the International Association of Law Enforcement Firearms Instructors and the International Homicide Investigators seminars.
Mas has received judicial recognition as an expert witness for the courts in weapons and shooting cases since 1979, and served as a fully sworn and empowered, part time police officer for 43 years, mostly at supervisor rank. Ayoob founded the Lethal Force Institute in 1981 and served as its director until 2009, and now trains through Massad Ayoob Group. He has appeared on CLE-TV delivering continuing legal education for attorneys, through the American Law Institute and American Bar Association, and has been retained to train attorneys to handle deadly force cases through the Armed Citizens Legal Defense Network. Ayoob served for two years as co-vice chair of the Forensic Evidence Committee of the National Association of Criminal Defense Lawyers. He also appeared in each episode of Personal Defense TV (Sportsman’s Channel).
ABOUT BILL WILSON
Bill Wilson has always been infatuated with guns. Originally trained as a watchmaker, he has been in the firearms industry since 1974, starting out with a retail store called Sportsman's Headquarters in Berryville, Arkansas. Since that humble beginning, he has built Wilson Combat into the largest and most successful custom firearms company in America. Since 1977 Wilson Combat has been the leading innovator in high-performance, custom 1911 handguns, tactical long guns and accessories
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"only an idiot would carry an empty chamber today" .... best statement of 2021!
One in the chamber and safety always Off.
@@HighSpeedNoDrag Just one of the reasons a Glock is such an outstanding choice. Multiple safeties all at once all in place, yet always ready to fire. It WILL NOT go off unless you pull the trigger. Striker fire all the way for a modern world. Watched this because the 1911 is such a classic, but would personally NEVER have a carry firearm with the "safety off". That's unsafe. The 1911 should be carried "cocked and locked" imho. One of the reasons I don't personally think it's a good choice for EDC.
@@peaceprayer595 Yes indeed and my trigger finger never enters the trigger well unless it's time to get down. Trigger finger is muscle memory and from training and reinforced by several hundred pushups at Ft. B.
@@HighSpeedNoDrag Many more skilled people than us have had negligent discharges. Cold and hot weather, relevant health and even cold medicine can all affect our ability to sense the trigger. Plus there are lots of other ways a gun can fire besides a finger pull...especially in the heat of engagement or hand to hand combat. I'd never carry a 1911 in "unsafe mode". But that's just me.
yet cops will ask; "is it loaded?". Is yours? What about that little "always loaded" rule? and if someone said no, would you believe them? idk, I think it's a silly, pointless question.
I’m 74 and have been shooting a 1911 since I was 14 my Dad brought this 1911 home after WW2 , my uncle asked him if he stole the gun from the military my dad said he felt like he earned it.
@@dkperu8558 you are a turd
Love it. Thanks guys.
Bet they did not keep track of battlefield picked up Lugers ;)
Well put, hats off to your father and I'm with you 100% I've learned to shoot properly before I learned how to tie my shoes. Dad was a plumber and I had plenty of toilets for target practice. If you couldn't hit the handle @25 with.22lr you weren't ready
He did earn it.
1911! Because pistol whipping someone with plastic is just silly.
Good point 👍
Or when someone asks "Why do you carry a .45?" ----- "Because they don't make a .46"
" John Moses Browning was a genius " . Amen to that .
“For those of you too young for nostalgia, your time is coming.”
Quote of the year.
I’m 72, I was a forward observer in Vietnam, so my personal weapon was a colt 1911. I heard from many people the 1911 wasn’t very accurate. I totally disagreed. I qualified Expert with it in Officer Candidate School at Ft. Sill. I loved it.
Thank you for your service!
When someone says a gun isn't accurate what they are really saying is "I can't shoot this gun accurately because I suck." Just like when people say snubnoses are inaccurate, I show them videos of Hickok45 nailing 80 yard targets with an Airweight 642.
Thank you for your service, sir. Welcome home.
Yep, it's a poor workman who blames the tools.....
Did some courses at Ft. Sill. Thanks for sharing your story.
My dad was a gunsmith and collector, among many other things he did in his 79 years. He recently was diagnosed with lung cancer and passed away last week. He wanted my sister and I to get photos of all his weapons. He had a dozen 1911 framed guns in mainly.45 but a couple in 9mm and one with a .22 conversion. I asked him jokingly “Dad , do you like 1911’s much?” His reply was “ In my mind it’s the only pistol ever built! Their durability is unmatched over any other platforms that I have shot and worked on over the years.” Another piece of advice he gave me many years ago is this” A pistol without one in the pipe is just a paperweight “. In the day and age we live in, I always carry with one in the pipe but I recall another piece of sage advice my dad gave me “If you have to use your gun in defense of your life or anyone else’s, make damn sure that you are justified because that split second decision could possibly give you a long time in a small space to think about it(jail)” I will miss him terribly now that he’s gone , but I will never forget the lessons he taught. Greetings from North Carolina and prayers for all of our safety during these trying times. Much love.
Your Dad sounds like a smart man. Somehow reading about your Dad it almost feels like he is one of the Old Breed Marines.
Seems like you guys had an awesome Dad. Stay strong.
Your dad sounds great man. May he rest now. ♥️
Condolences 💐… Your Father was a great American 🇺🇸 R.I.P.
I’m very sorry for your loss.
"John Moses Browning was a genius." The 1911 will probably never go out of production. It's that good.
Same could be said for revolvers.
We just need it in 9mm with 1.5 stack to have 15 rounds.
@@ctrlaltdebug now we talking
CtrlAlt Debug Nope, just learn how to shoot Better.
@@ChineseChicken1 Yep. Just carry a two-shot derringer.
More than 100 years old, and the 1911 pistol is still more than relevant. This pistol is a remarkable piece of history. John Browning was not only an American Icon, but he was and will always be an American genius in firearms manufacturing.
68 and an old combat veteran. I wouldn't trade my 1911 for any other sidearm. My 230 grain hollow points will stop anyone who intends to do me harm. I will deal with the small amount of extra weight so that I KNOW my rounds will be devastating. You will never take away my 1911.
The 1911 is like a manual transmission in the current era. It's more appreciated and skillfully used by those willing to learn how.
Couldn't have said it better.
What you wrote is poetry. What you said, I believe. I don’t have the time or interest to retrain to use the 1911, thus my go to is what I know, use, and carry. A Glock. But I would never dig on those that choose, train, and carry with this time tested pistol.
Facts. I’ll always have at least one manual in my fleet and 1911 in my safe.
Better a Glock in hand than a 1911 in the safe.....JK!
@@NotElmerKeith1 There’s a 2” or 3” (depending on the time of year) DAO revolver at least within eyesight, and often on my person, at all times, and several defensive shotguns at hand when I’m home. I don’t personally trust myself to remember the things you have to know for auto pistols when I’m scared shitless if I ever have to use one, and I shoot revolvers better than any handgun aside from 1911s anyway. Glocks are fine handguns, but not for me.
For some reason I can never seem to hit very well with them, either, must be the grip width and/or angle or maybe the weird (to me) trigger, because I know they’re relatively accurate as a rule.
"For those who don't have nostalgia, your time is coming" So true.
Talk like a man my son
The young will not even understand what that statement means!
If they live long enough...
I love the people that say they’re “experienced in guns and love guns”
My neighbor is one of those. I showed him my 1911 that I open carry around the house and property. He looked at my gun and said “you realize the hammer is back, right?” I knew right there he wasn’t as much of a “gun guy” as he claimed. Crazy.
Cocked and locked
"Gun guy" confused SA 1911 with DA revolver.
"Cocked and locked? What's that?"
I was initially trained on the 1911 upon entry to the USMC in 1978 and have one as my EDC today. For me, it just works.
“For those too young to have nostalgia, your time is coming.” I hear that! 🤣
Lol. I'm 26 and I'm loving nostalgia. It's good to reminisce. I know some will laugh but as someone whose only been shooting since 21 I will always remember my poor man's Glock, S&W SD9VE. One day I hope I'm older and can feel the same for older guns.
Right there with you on that subject
I’m 38 it’s just now starting for me
M9 p226 g17
I didn’t hear anything after the….“If the representatives of the people betray their constituents, there is then no recourse left but in the exertion of that original right of self defense” - Alexander Hamilton (Federalist papers No. 28)
My inherited Colt 1911 first hit the battlefield in 1917. It was refitted for WWII at Anniston with a Remington Rand slide and an A1 backstrap, and later accurized by the Army Marksmanship Team armorer for match use. It was a helo pilot's sidearm in Korea post-war, and in Vietnam for 2 tours under fire. Still runs just fine.
That’s cool
if this is true, that's a helluva back story. Like wolverine fighting all the wars.
I love the safety features and the shoot-a-bility of this platform. Trigersafety/glock sucks
@@BraskHouseConcertsGlocks trigger safety system is extremely reliable and safe. But that being said, I do love my 1911s
@@tclott316 if your finger is on the trigger, then the safety is off.
"For those too young to have nostalgia, your time is coming." How true. I can well remember reading Massad's articles in "Guns & Ammo" during the 80's when we were both young men. Time marches on.
I find that these days I identify a lot more with the following quote that I read some years ago. "My recent interest in history is predicated on the knowledge that I am soon to be part of it".
I too remember reading those articles every month when I was a young man, couldn't wait for the next issue to come out.
I've carried the 1911 for over 20 years, both professionally and as my EDC. I have complete confidence in the platform to do what it's supposed to do. Hearing two legends of the shooting sports validate it is just that much more assuring. Thanks to you both.
"Even when you're carrying a man's gun in 45 auto" LMFAO Amen to that brother!!!
That 230 grain FMJ is still a winner.
@@tygre7 FMJ REALLY. Well I know if you ever end up in a shooting you will go to prison for killing an innocent bystander. I can tell you butt going to hurt 🤣🤣🤣
@@PorknBeansss Hallow point round? Do you have a lot of demons, witches and vampires to shoot, there Sam or Dean Winchester?
@@tommygatch hallow, hallowed be, hollow what’s the difference 😂😅
@@calihuntfish7163 I just couldn't help myself. I had to say something
“It has to be carried cocked and locked,
Only an idiot would carry on an empty chambers these days”
Wise wise words
Better to have a " snubby " revolver than an empty chamber 1911
1911 the only pistol I rely on.
At age 70,, I started college in 1971 when a requirement for incoming male freshmen was ROTC. I have never forgotten the statement given by our instructor Captain when asked why a .45 instead of .38 like the police carry. He said, "When a VC runs at you with a grenade and you shoot him with a .38, he will walk up and hand it to you....when you shoot him with a .45, he will back up several steps and drop it".
There is no Fuddlore worse than Vietnam era Fuddlore
@@revelation20232 Perhaps.... old school veterans believed in the .45 and definitely the M-1 garand and .308 M-14 over .38 and 5.56. Also, I was in Miami when the shootout occurred that prompted the FBI to seek other weapons than the revolver even though the perps were eventually done in with a 357 magnum
@@George1mac .45 was fine for it's hey day but it's not the wunderwaffe old timers make it out to be. Ballisitically its not far from 9mm or 40 s&w. If you're going to run 45 today you might as well run 10mm
@@revelation20232 .45 has less felt recoil than 10mm for not much drop off in stopping effectiveness. Let people shoot what they like as long as it's capable. There is nothing wrong with .45, 9mm, or 10mm for personal protection. Shoot what you are most comfortable and accurate with. For me that's .45, for someone else it may be 9mm or 10mm. The constant need to talk people into shooting certain calibres is asinine.
Have you heard of the term too angry to die. There was a shootout between a police officer and an bank robber who had killed four people. The police officer was using a 45 ACP glock. He hit the bank robber at least 14 to 17 times about seven of them 7 of then lethal. Bank robber was still alive when the police officer stopped the threat.
The 1911 will be here forever. The coolest pistol ever.
So cool they named a year after it. 🤣
Cool doesn't mean best. There are tons of guns that will remain known forever.
ctNCTIONAL@@dtom3792 I won't be around when the first Plastic framed handgun turns 100 years old, but I'm pretty confident that there won't be a working copy that has lasted that long. Just like there will never be an original 2021 Ford Mustang or Chevy Camaro where everything still works. Our "throw away" society ensures that. "Remembered" isn't the same as "Enduring". Yes, I'm "old school", or just old, but I can still drive a standard transmission and every handgun I have ever owned (except a couple of revolvers) follows the 1911 pattern. Yes, I know how to use a computer, tablet and "smart' phone, and I have nothing against "FUNCTINAL" progress, still when "progress" amounts to making everything "idiot proof" only idiots applaud it.
@@ocelblack9823 One exception. The original Glock 21. Low pressure cartridge and a frame designed to handle 10mm.
@@dtom3792 talk to us when you reach 100 plus years…and I like my plastic 9mms but they aren’t iconic and never will be like the 1911
12:35 "John Moses Browning was a genius" - Understatement of the century.
The 1911 is still in service with special forces by Demand and moses m2 .50 mg is still a primary weapon with many nato forces and no plans to change.
Moses has a special relationship with the reaper
Yes but not god Mr Beretta or Luger or the poor subservient bugger that put torkove pistol together. The 1911 of today is not the same critter as the 1911. A 2021 rendition or the luger hmm
Yes, a genius who hated the grip safety he was forced to add by the US Army.
@@brianjohnson6053 the Luger is a cool design but no it’s not better than a 1911
I fell real dumb for not realizing the fact it took me half a minute or more to figure out how to work my A1 wasn't unique. I have extensive firearms training but mostly with rifles and machine guns, never pistols. and I didn't think that this could be an advantage if disarmed. Thank you!
Life has a flavor the young have yet to know. The Marines introduced me to the 45, then the 9mm. Been through so many platforms and having gone full circle, I’m back to full size 45. I probably would have carried it for decades, but carry has really only matured just recently. Printing is no longer a crime and stopping power requirements at a greater distance wherein improved accuracy is required, the 45 starts to really shine!
Russian here. We feel the same way about our 1911, the Tokarev TT34. Respect and handshake from Mother Russia.
I had to carry a 1911A-1 for years either in a belt holster or shoulder holster. I picked up a Tokarev back in the early 70's and really liked it. You would be in trouble at 100 yards if I was shooting at you with one, a .45 would be in the dirt somewhere. A Tokarev is thin for carry purposes. The only thing I don't like is the short grip on it.
Hello Russian Alex! I have a few Russian guns in my collection.
@@fredderf3152 russian guns are great, my shot to shit m44 still shoots true
@@drkalowski256 yes… and not to brag, I have an m44 as well as a carbine and a few pistols.
@@fredderf3152 thats awesome! I have a type 56 SKS and a surplus police pistol from Czechoslovakia thats chambered in 380. Russian guns are pretty expensive in my area but people think that the mosin is trash for whatever reason. i guess they shot one with a fucked barrel or something
Here is a Massad Ayoob/1911 anecdote: I took a MAG40 class in 2017. For more than 35 years, Massad has always shot a "pacesetter" qualification in front of the class right before they qualify. I had seen his targets in about a million magazine articles over the years, and he always seems to shoot a perfect score of 300, regardless of the pistol he's shooting. On this occasion I had the good fortune to stand on his right shoulder and load magazines for him as he shot the challenging course of fire for the class. He was range-testing an out-of-the box 1911 for a shooting publication, which I thought was cool because I was shooting a customized version of the same pistol. I watched, a little awestruck, as he sent 60 rounds of mixed 230-grain hardball downrange into virtually a single ragged hole, and made it look easy. As is his custom, he signed the target and presented it to the most improved shooter in the class.
Have been reading Ayoob since the 1980s. The skill you described is amazing.
Wilson combat is a great shop! Had them perform some upgrades to my
.45acp which really improved its performance!
My father was an old-school revolver man. I grew up always admiring the 1911A1 and loved watching it being used in movies. It was also one of the first handguns I ever fired. Finally after nearly 30 years of admiring it I bought my first 1911A1. A Springfield Mil Spec.
I am 54 Years old and have been a 1911 Man my whole life. I just learned something I never knew by watching this video. The dropping the safety when pressed against something and bring slightly out of battery still firing the gun . Goes to show you are never to old to learn something new.
Thank you.
Exactly good to know if you are in bear or mountain lion country or the occasional big foot
I need to try that on mine.
I am 2 years old. 1911 or die.
@@Fullyautomagic good learning son. Lol
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I came of age with wheel guns, and never liked 1911s - until I bought one on a whim. Now, I prefer a 1911 over anything.
I also cut my teeth on wheel guns. A Colt detective special .38spl. I trained on the 1911 in the military and then transitioned to the Beretta M9. Since then I transitioned to polymer striker fire platforms and love them. Have you ever shot any of them?
@@oleboy7615 S&W M&P9, and Ruger LC9s Pro are my EDCs.
@@4x4Moses Very nice choices!
@@4x4Moses I carry a M&P9 M2.0. Fantastic pistol!
Not all 1911's are perfect, but you can learn to make a bad one perfect--its even a lot of fun!
I'm not even a big gun person, but I applaud this channel for highly experienced educational content. Safety and education are top prerequisites for all responsible gun owners/users. Thank you, gentlemen!
Two absolute American LEGENDS!!! In one room together spilling out a wealth of knowledge. A virtual two part breathing firearms encyclopedia!!
4:12. ". . . as opposed to a plastic gun in a plastic holster." The perspective that only comes by age and experience. Well said, sir. Amen.
The perspective that only comes by age and LACK of experience. Also the inability to accept the knowledge you possess is outdated.
@@brandon9105 Write your own comment. How old are anyway?
He was referring to wearing it as a fashion piece.
"What you would wear to a BBQ."
I don't know what his opinion is on polymer guns for self defense since I haven't watched his other videos. I just wanted to point out that the context of 4:12 was fashion.
When I was in the Army Reserve the 90's, we still had .45s. Some were starting to show wear, but they had been in service since WWII. Same with our M2s. My unit in Germany had switched to M9s in late 1993 and their .45s had seen actual combat in WWII and had been through the hands of hundreds of soldiers and were still running.
The last time the Army bought 1911s was in 1945, so a combat history is in many of them.
In 🇰🇷 1990 I used a battered old Remington Rand 1911a1 model. It was not very impressive. 🤭 The US Military now totes SIG M17, M18 & Glock 9mm sidearms.
@@DavidLLambertmobile Maybe active, but I haven't been active for 4 years. I'm Reserve currently, so it'll be years before they upgrade from the M9s.
Talk about return on investment: 1911 & M2
The .45s I saw in the Army in Europe in ‘85 years were running. But only barely. The bluing was gone, the springs were wore out and the rifling was kaput. It was a miracle they ran at all.
One of the reasons the .45’s reputation suffers so in the eyes of Gen X and millennials is due to those relics and the cheap knock offs produced by 2nd rate companies. A heap of unctuous Boomer worship doesn’t help.
I learned the 1911 45 in the USMC in 1969 7 Rds Magazine two extra Magazines in a WWII type Magazine Pouch and it always worked for me when I needed it and after 3 Tours in Vietnam I needed it more than I liked. John Browing saved my life and a few of my Marines more than once.
I’m 74 and have put over 250,000 round’s through my Model of 1911 National Match Gold Cup in practice and competition. Had the barrel replaced with a Wilson Combat Match barrel and had the slide tightened up after done competing.
Still deadly accurate.
Love my 1911.
Sure??? Can a 1911 pistol really fire that many shots without breaking???
I’m 54 retired 30 year LEO, I started off with revolvers, went to semi auto Glock 17. Went to 1911 when retired because I hit what I aim at and want the power of a larger cartridge on a reliable platform. The 1911 can’t be beat when lives are at stake!
First, modern 9mm cartridge is as effective as .45ACP (google it). I switched from 45 to 9 because I educated myself. Also, you wanted less reliability, capacity, and ease of use? Seems like a really stupid choice. Hope it doesn't stove pipe when you need it most. Also, don't forget about that stupid external safety.
I had a Colt Officers jam
when I walked off duty into the armed robbery of an Eckerds Drug, supremes the hell out of me!
oops, supprised the hell out of me rather
These fellas have forgotten more about guns than I'll ever know.
I can say that the 1911 is my all time favorite weapon . I carried one during three combat tours in the Army in the 60's and for two years on my local police department here in Shreveport, Louisiana. I have several Variations of that weapon now and they all shoot well . I do really like the .45 round because l know what it can do . I enjoy your programs and the information we receive .
Thank you for your service,and for sharing these experiences
The first time I ever held and was taught to properly use the 1911 was 1979. Since that time, it has been my go-to choice of handgun. The safety features alone are incredible. And it has definitive knock-down/stay-down power that few other handguns enjoy. Personally, I love the thing! IMO, John Moses Browning invented one of the best weapons ever made.
ACP stands for Anti Cow Projectile for a reason. It's what they tested the 1911 on.
There is no such thing as "knock down power".
@@Cha-Khia Are you trying to be funny?
I’m 28 and currently carry my grandads old Colt 1911. I’m a big fan of all guns but I feel like it’s a work of art alongside being a defensive tool. A lot of the newer polymer stuff lacks that flare. WWII era firearms are just gorgeous.
I really don't like polymer guns. No technical reason. It's just my taste.
Wouldnt carry a gem or keepsake like that. If you use it, you may not get it back for awhile if ever.
@@tylerwill5250 I’d only use it in the right matter
@@tylerwill5250 your YOUNG, someday YOUR GOING TO DIE, if you Inherit gramps ww2 1911, UPDATE THAT! your NOT going to sell it, "make it yours" pass it onto your kids. -- they will appreciate the fact "great gramps brought it back from the war, and then dad put the upgrades on"... either they will treasure it, OR they will SELL it. (Either way, you did your part).
enjoy life, make gramps gun yours (unless your intention is to let it get really valuable, and then sell it) in that case your an extreme asshole for selling your children's memories for a few bucks you will waist on crap.
I dont carry my 1911 outside of the house. Criminals use guns with more magazine capacity I ain’t dying with a piece limited to 8. I gotta go Glock and it’s way lighter. I’ve done with carrying the 1911 sob is heavy.
I'd like to see the Browning hi-power resurrected too.
@Craig Andersen. It is available again. Made in Belgium assembled in Portugal. About $1,000 new.
My favorite semi auto!
Resurrected they still use them in a lot of different countries
It's called a CZ 75B
Yes they did as Turkish clone🤫
I do security at my church on Saturday evenings. I watched this video and you & Bill brought up a good point. If the gun is taken from me, the thug will have a difficult time figuring out how to get it to fire. That will give me the time to access the S&W model 60 that I keep in my pocket. In closing, I carry both my weapons concealed, I dress in regular clothes, and most important, I BELIEVE IN AN OUNCE OF PREVENTION IS WORTH 10 POUNDS OF CURE!
then carry a flintlock by that logic
Based on Mr. Ayoob's comments about the 1911 being confusing to someone who gets control of your weapon, I'm getting ready to switch from my Glock to my 1911 for CC. Thanks for great advice and giving me valid reasons to carry the most ergonomically perfect, IMHO, semi auto.
You forgot the most important reason to carry a 1911--its trigger. Only the 1911's trigger slides straight back, so it's more accurate.
I could listen to Massad all day and still learn something new.
What a voice wow
Of course if you listen to a professional all day, you should learn something new lol, but I think I know what you mean, I love Mass.
@@MsWolfey4 I was gonna say the same thing. People with voices down in the basement, like Sam Elliott or myself, tend to be blessed with a high level of testosterone. Edit: Yet Cassius Chaerea and George S Patton were known to have high-pitched voices, so who knows?
It's a silky voice, that's for sure.
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The first firearm I ever shot at the range was a 9mm 1911 Commander's model. Superb ergonomics. Such a natural pointer and comfortable to fire.
listening to this is 2023 and when he said "for those of you too young for nostalgia your time is coming soon enough." Seems like such a more ominous line now. I'm pretty sure when he said it. Just meant your gonna get old. Now though it's like youll learn to love her after WW3.
IMO the reason that active duty military disliked the 1911, back in the day, was not the functionality of the handgun but because the military issue sights were awful. The modern 1911's built with quality sights and tight slides are great and the fundamental design is unchanged from its inception. Try to think of a piece of industrial equipment that is in current use that was designed 120 years ago and is as unchanged as the 1911.
They are garbage lol
Correct. The 1911 design is a fantastic firearm as long as the sights and tolerances are improved. A high-quality Colt, Sig or Wilson Combat will easily fix those problems. A good set of tritium night sights and close tolerances make all the difference in the world. Rock on 1911.
It is so hard to judge height when you have a rounded front sight that glares.
The Army taught to shoot without using sights at all, and one handed.
A 1911 has the sweetest, iconic sound when racking the slide...my daily carry is a Springfield Armory mil spe .45 ACP. :)
Same here. Two spare mags. I never leave home without it. I replaced all the springs throughout twice so far. Made a Yaqi holster for it. Sits nice and flat against me and conceals very well. My wife carries an officer model Taurus 1911. She is a bad ass with it.
@@sisleymichael the .45 is just to much for my wife, she has to shoot the "metric system".... I bought her a Hellcat...its snappy on recoil....but works well, after some training.
put a break on mine and shoot the Underwood ammo, 45 acp +p 510 to 580 ft lbs muzzle energy. Didn't put it on for the first shot but for follow-up shots . . . if needed
Nice you got the parkerized or stainless model?
You guys are awesome!! Wanna thank you!! Bill says casually, " Hey guys, build me a 1911." Knowing hez gonna get the sweetest build they can muster. The Good Life!!
Why this channel isn't getting higher views and subscribers is beyond human comprehension. It is Old school practical and pragmatic seasoned knowledge from the best of the best. Thanks for all that you're teaching us, generational war veteran Gulf War/Desert Storm. Always carry a 1911, nothing else.
1911 are unreliable trash.
At 63 yrs young, having carried a 1911 quite often, i was surprised and pleased to learn of an additional feature with the stand off functionality today. Thank you Mr Browning and Mr Ayoob for teaching a old dog a new trick. Keep your powder dry. Stay safe and God Bless....
Here in Bakersfield California our police went from revolvers to the S&W model 39’s. They weren’t happy with them, they were jam a matics. They then went to Colt 1911’s. Officers models for plain clothes and Government models for uniform personnel. When they transitioned to Glocks eventually they offered for sale their 45’s through a local distributor. I still have a Government model and a friend of mine still carries the Officer model we bought way back then. Simply great guns.
The 1911 is an outdated and unreliable design. Congrats on the used obsolete pistols. They are handsome.
@@duanedragon2 grow up.
@@rsuninv read up.
@@duanedragon2 So, you're a hi-point fanboy then I take it.
Bet they didn't get rid of the Glocks.
I'm 24 and the 1911 is without question my favorite handgun platform of all time. I own Glocks, H&Ks, revolvers, and more but I always find myself reaching for one of my 1911s for carry, defense, or fun on the range. It's not just for the old timers and the nostalgia of the weapon. It's simply the best, most reliable, and most durable handgun ever made. In a .45 acp or 10mm auto is is unbeatable for any defensive or combative need you may have.
My 1911 10mm is my everyday carry pistol in my vintage WWII Surplus leather shoulder holster and it fits me, and my pistol like a glove. 10mm, the BEST MM!!!
Massad...I remember reading that article on that exercise in the early 80's. I didnt get the 1911 bug until 1996 despite being in the military where we still had a lot of them in the armory. The older I get the more I realize what a work of art for a carry gun the 1911 is.
I hear ya, and I feel ya brother. Stay safe and be a sheepdog in this world of wolves and sheep.
I prefer the hammer guns, particularly the 1911 over striker-fires to this day.
Same here
@@Darks_Onry_N_Mean you have a conflicting pfp
@@brightpri6692 its southern pride I believe.
Same here. To the point where I roll with a conventional DA/SA hammer fired SIG P-229
@@aidenpearce7775 They're proud of being traitors to the country? Yikes . . .
I keep trying guns. Name your plastic, name your design, name your manufacturer. Everything is some variation of…”if it shot as well as a 1911, I’d really like it.”
My Black Kimber 1911 looks exactly like this one here! Just got it today before work on a complete whim. Needless to say I'm so honored to have this in my collection and to hear how much praise it's getting makes me feel 100% satisfied with my purchase. I have a 9mm and its been neat to shoot but I've gotten the chance to shoot an expensive 1911 from a co-worker and it was FUN to shoot! So much so that I shot it one handed just like Ice Cube had in Boyz in the Hood!! Mine has cheaper grip but best believe it won't feel feel cheap on the receiving end lmaoooooo
I’ve had many different handgun platforms in my 51 years of life. I used to think of the 1911 as antiquated and not very practical. The older I get the more my Kimber in a nice quality leather holster is my everyday carry. This video is a love song to JMB and the still relevant 1911. Thank you. ❤️
I have several striker fired pistols, ove em, great guns, bought a sig, 329 DA Love it...fell in love with the 1911 platform, now I was forced to buy a 2011. WOW!!
You and me both brother. I love my Kimber Pro Carry II, carried in a ISW leather holster. As a combat trained (not experienced) veteran, a former NV P.O. and now a Texas citizen with a LTC, at 64 I am shocked at the skyrocketing violent crime in this country, and I carry!
Mr. Ayoob I remember meeting you and Robert K Brown at a SOF convention. May he rest in peace. I'm a vet. I still carry my 1911
Wait! When did Robert K. Brown pass?
@@ExSoldier762 my god, it's been years. I don't know if you know Turner. Kirkland. He wrote an obituary on him. He owned Dixie Gun Works
I absolutely agree with Mr. Wilson about guns having a safety being safer. My P365 has a safety even though it is a striker fired weapon. I also have a 1911 and a Sig P220 that are in my carry rotarion
I bought my first pistol on my 21st birthday and it was a 1911. It's current going to be my everyday conceal carry once I move from my overseas duty station.
I would add 1 more capability which the 1911 has over light guns;
A steel 1911 makes a great club.
Pistol whipping a dirt bag with a plastic gun just doesn’t make any sense! 🤣
Thanks for the chuckle.
Have you ever been whipped by a Glock or similar? Pro tip, they do the job just fine.
@@225degrees it was meant as humor.
@@Iceaxehikes Perhaps, I have heard people mention it as a real "benefit".
Not many 120 year old designs (in anything) are still viable and efficient today…..yes, John Moses Browning was a true genius!!
And of we're talking about lever action rifles, over 134 years.
@Dr. Ass Not sure you wish to be pedantic and insulting with your comments or what.
Folks with half a brain know the 1911 has undergone revisions and improvements, yet to say the "1911 is still viable" is to say "the internal combustion engine is viable" and assume people know we're not talking about a clunky old original Model T. This is why I say "pedantic and insulting."
Someone had to start the design, that was John Moses Browning. The 1911 of today is basically his work, with improvements. Yet it is his work.
@Dr. Ass so you’re saying that someone mag dumping a 1911 at you would not be cause for alarm? 🙄🤦♂️
Btw….I have. I own a few of the examples you specifically mentioned
@Dr. Ass What does surplus ammo have to do with an original 1911? Aside from that moot point, your arguement is that the 1911 is in any way significantly outclassed by slightly lighter guns that hold a few more rounds. That's ehat we got in 120 years? A few ounces and a few rounds? Pitiful. The better comparison is a 2021 mustang to a 2011.
@Dr. Ass The classic Ford Model T is going to suffer if you try to take it on your daily commute on the highway, trying to strap an Edison phonograph to your arm for your jogging session might have some disadvantages and trying to watch the news on the go on a CRT Television will require a massive stack of batteries or one very long extension cord. In the meanwhile the 1911 might have been superseded by modern guns, that .45 slug that comes out at the end will still kill you stone cold dead. It remains functional to this day. Yes you will find guns that are better in most areas like capacity, weight, size, sights, mounting accessories etc. But a classic 1911 remains a deadly weapon in the hands of a proficient shooter. It's an old design, but it retains a better measure of functionality than other classics that are now almost entirely obsolete.
Placing you both together are the ingredients for making common sense appealing! This also ties in to the fact you both teach the facts and not fallacy,your both on top with being genuine and a credit to the industry!
The respect and professionalism presented in these videos is refreshing.
In many ways I'd say the 1911 is a true pistolman's gun, it takes skill and practice to bring out the most in any shooter, and the 1911 is a gun that encourages and rewards that practice. In the right hands it's quick, accurate, and deadly in a way that polymer striker pistols aren't.
most surprising thing about the 1911 is that the US military bothered to acquire it. Highest quality item they've ever issued to infantry, I'm sure.
Actually, a properly set up 1911 is easier to shoot well than any of the striker-fired guns because of it's superb trigger pull.
It’s upkeep that’s the make or break. It’s just a sports car. If you’re just gonna drive it, it’s not worth the effort. But to really get the most out of it, you tinker and tune and clean it and check all the parts and the fluids because it’s more than just a car, it’s rolling potential. The same with the 1911. You need to be intimate with it. Know it’s parts, keep it oiled, check your springs and pins. It’s not just a plastic bang bang blaster it’s potential incarnate. That is what the true gunfighter understands. He not only puts rounds down range but meticulously, almost obsessively checks and maintains his equipment so that when the fight comes, he has the best working equipment he can to deal with that fight. Anyone can carry a Glock. A gunfighter carried a 1911
Hm. Growing up, a 1911 in any caliber was always the easiest for me to shoot tight groups. Maybe its the grip angle and single action trigger, and steel frame. Glocks and berettas i recall shooting not where i aimed them. Sig P series and 1911s are interchangeable accuracy wise for me.
not really lol
100 years from now 2. Guys will be having this same conversation. I have had the same 1911's since 1981. My brother in law is a plastic, striker fired guy. His guns come & they go, they come & they go!
My grandpa who used colt m1911a1 in Vietnam war he said best pistol for ever he has it
Love these guys! I've learned to hit with a lot of platforms over the years, but the trigger on a 1911 is still the boss. Why carry a 1911? Because they're awesome.
Trigger on the Walther is boss...not 1911.
@@loganturner3895 Well come on...It's not an either or proposition. I'm not bothered by any trigger to be honest. I don't mind a double action revolver trigger, Mosin trigger, etc. Triggers are going to be different among various platforms. I prefer to be flexible and not favor one over another. I carry a Walther P99c as, Remington 1911 R1 and a S&W Model 60 3". I just learn to use it and that's that. It's cool to like one over the other, to each their own. I will say that my wife fired the 1911 in 45 acp better than anything else. I couldn't say exactly why but she has a 9mm Walther PPQ M2 as well.
@@loganturner3895 And 1911 is bulky and heavy.
If you think the 1911 is heavy and bulky you are carrying it wrong. @@FtanmoOfEtheirys
53 here, fell in love with the Colt and Browning 1911s in my Navy days in the late 80s early 90s. Same with my Beretta 92fs. I still think the 1911 is the best design ever. My wife bought a Browning 380 1911 that she let me try out one day at the range. Surprised both of us when I hit the bullseye on the first shot from the hip in one second. You can never go wrong with a 1911.
That’s a strange thing to lie about sir.
my father (may he rest in peace) bought my mom a browning .380 for christmas and he passed away in october. That being said it shot pretty good I was surprised only thing I hate about it is the damn safety that won't allow the hammer to fall without a mag in the gun.
@@brandondavis4306 I understand it's pretty easy to defeat the mag out "safety" feature on that gun.
Excellent. Every time I watch I learn. Please continue as many depend on you for their firearm education.
A 1911a1 was the first gun I ever bought. Was all proud of myself, so I showed my grandfather.
First thing he did, (handed it to him mag out and slide locked open) was close the slide and shake it.
"It doesn't rattle! It's supposed rattle." I honestly had doubts that I was going to get the gun back, he was so enamored with it.
Finally, I had to say, "Grandpa, Katie's my girl, and if you're done feeling her up, I'd like to take her home now." Well, he laughed, and handed the gun back.
IMHO... the 1911 and Browning HP universally fit more hands than any other gun ever imagined!
Idk, I think the CZ 75 and for a more modern gun, the S&W M&P will fit any hand that works.
@M. Denz Oh yeah it’s not very important but some people care. I’m just saying there are modern pistols, M&P, Walther, CZ, with superior ergonomics to the Glock. You can have a modern pistol that’s reliable with comfortable ergonomics, instead of going to the 1911. That being said, still love the 1911.
@M. Denz This is so true. As Marine Corps pistol coach, I saw plenty of tiny female hands qualify expert with the M9 with it's large double stack and long initial trigger reach.
@@CMDR.Gonzo.von.Richthofen You get used to that extra real estate and its hard to go back. 1911's and Hi-powers feel like they have kid-size grips on them after you train on a g17 or G21.
@@coffeeandlifting single stack vs double stack. Put a 2011 up against a glock and you'll have apples to apples as far as grip size. The ergonomics of the 1911 is superior to any pistol. Especially the grip angle. Glocks in particular always have a upward point forcing you to compensate by rotating your wrist down. Sure with repetition it's overcame becoming muscle memory etc.
Out of all the firearms I own . It's just something about that 1911..easy to use, nice capacity, and safety features what's not to love. And easy to break down and clean
@Derriyan Jackson Not to mention the power and accuracy of it. In a self-defense situation, it'll get your point across in 1 or 2 shots max.
That's the best rundown of the 1911 safety features, and convenience features, I've seen yet. And from guys who truly know! Thanks!
I holster my 1911 by holding it forward of the trigger with one hand to align it with the holster, then putting my thumb onto the firing pin and pushing it into the holster. That keeps both the grip safety and the slide safety engaged should anything happen to catch the trigger.
The 1911 was the first pistol I ever shot, and that was courtesy of the Army. By my time in the Army (80s), we would spend an entire day in the classroom going over every detail of a weapon (everything from pistols to tank guns) before we were allowed near it, so we were already pretty well-versed with the safeties on the 1911 before heading to the range to shoot it. The interesting thing is we rarely used the safety on the range. The pistol was empty with the slide locked back until ready to shoot. On command, you'd load the magazine, release the slide, and engage the targets until the slide locked back. Sometimes, there'd be a magazine change, but when you were done shooting, the pistol would be empty with the slide locked back and you'd keep it pointed downrange until the safety NCO had looked at it to verify it was unloaded and safe, then set it down. It was only when I bought my own 1911 (while still in the Army) that I discovered how intuitive the slide safety is.
I own 5 1911’s by multiple manufacturers and I love them all! I do own a few Glocks but the fun factor is still in the 1911.
If you are a 1911 guy you will never love the Hi-Power or any Glock. Your love will be with the 1911 for life.
@@gymshoe7123 I agree!
It it spits boolits, I'm having fun 😊
1911/Glock guy fans are more common than most ppl think!
Single action guns are like sports cars with a manual. So much fun to drive
I have my fathers 1911. Manufactured in 1919 and still shoots flawless. My favorite pistol as he mentioned the two safeties
I always had my 1911 on my nightstand and my mother in law was flipping out one day because she thought the kids were gunna shoot themselves with it, (I've trained my kids to respect guns) and I called my oldest who was 12 at the time and didn't know the 1911 and handed it to him loaded with a sanp cap, ready to go with the safety on and instructed him to shoot me and he took 5 minutes trying before he gave it up, never got it to fire that day, it's honestly one of the safest guns you can have
Awesome show with lots of great information.
The 1911 .45 auto has been my favorite since I can remember.
Lately I’ve been considering one in 9mm. And a Wilson Combat 1911 is a dream of mine I may or may not realize.
A man has got to have his dreams (goals) though.
The 1911 is the bedrock foundation of modern self defense
If the Hi-Power is the father of all modern auto pistol designs, this is their grandpa.
@@1337penguinman that is why it’s the bedrock 🤣
"MASSOOOOD!" Absolutely LOVE this gentleman! Knows more about guns and everythng related to them than the entire Internet combined!
he is very very knowledgeable but i wonder why he does the thumb over thumb grip. i have analyzed both and the thumb over grip loses grip friction ???
I have a RIA G.I. style 1911 and I love that gun, first gun I ever purchased and it has been rock solid reliable for me over the years. I intend on passing it down to my sons or grandsons.
Awesome sauce! Thanks for this.
When I was in the Army they needed an armed courier to ride along with the Captain. I was issued a 1911 and I fell in love with it ever since.
Got my first 1911 in 1981 and loved them ever since. I've learned how to tweak, and tune them until they sing the way I like. Wonderful piece of engineering 👍.
It's hard to understand a Police department failing to fire a 1911. They are the safest handguns ever made.
They are lightning fast at drawing and shooting.
They can be loaded with 180 grain hollow points that will move at 1250 FPS in a + p round.
You do not want a cheap 1911 to load this way, but who wants to protect their lives with a cheap weapon?
You can have the drop by accident and will not fire.
You always carry locked and cocked.
If people are afraid to carry them chambered with a round , then they need training.
One thing they can do is rack a empty 1911 and carry it locked and cocked
around the house to negate the fear.
One thing is never draw with your finger on trigger
Your manual safety may have been flipped down while carrying.
You have to engage the back strap safety before it will fire.
But if you draw with finger on trigger your palm my be on back strap.
I have watched people shoot themselves with striker fire pistols also at least 3 other accidents from them.
For me the 1911 is by far the safest pistol you can own.
Now we have double stack mags that hold 14 +1 in a number of brands.
You give up to a bulky carrying gun though.
Training with reloading I doubt you loose anything
Carrying 9 rounds with a couple of extra mags.
If you need more than 9 your missing.
Never chamber a round,then try to lower hammer so you can cock it later please.
Excellent presentation. BTW back in the 80s I sent my S and W .357 to Tarnhelm for a magnatrigger and it came back perfect.
I have an Argentine 1911 clone with no grip safety which I love.
I learned the 1911 in 1978 in the USMC. Through my career, I grew to love the gun. When it left the inventory I was sad. The M9 never fit my hand well and I hated it. I have a bunch of 1911s today. They work. Even today, they are lethal, despite those claiming otherwise, especially for those who have used them their entire lives.
Fear the man with one gun.
Plus they're a fantastic looking weapon, tried and true, time tested!
Thanks for sharing the wisdom of experience!
Thank you very much for all the information! I have been afraid to go out because even in my tiny Colorado mountain town violence is becoming more common. I bought a rock island armory 1911 compact .45 and am going to get my ccl with my girlfriend who just bought a sig p365. Your videos are super helpful thank you
Some time ago, I managed to get hold of a WWII 1911 which had been left to deteriorate over time. After a good deep clean, replacement of the odd small part and a re-coating in a satin chrome, I headed for the range. I had been shooting Police and services comp for a few years and my favourite auto was my Gold Cup. On this one particular day, I managed to shoot a score of 785, (never said I was a good shot). I lined up in the afternoon for a second attempt with my newly finished 1911, and managed to finish with a score of 812, and surprisingly with a much better overall grouping of shots. I shoot many types of auto in a variety of calibers but if I had to make a choice, I would go with the 1911 every time.
I had a lot of experience with shotguns and rifles prior to the first time I tried to qualify in 1980. I had heard a lot about the 1911 model on both sides. The Gunnery Sargent dispelled all uncertainty by firing two rounds offhand at 30 yards that you could cover with a quarter. I listened to every to every word that man said. As a result, I qualified expert the very first time I tried to hit anything with a pistol.
I carried the .45 while on duty many times. We carried the weapon empty on the right and two magazines on the left. The weapons we had were quite old the safeties were not reliable. At locations where people carried them locked and loaded would unload them while pointing into safety tubes. A couple had accidental discharges at that point.
My personal opinion is that the 1911 design was excellent, but weapons that have seen 50 or 100 years of service may not be reliable. I recommend having a gunsmith check such a weapon over before using it.
Great video full of solid info.
I've been around 1911's since I was 12 yrs old, I'm 66 now and I own 4 1911's. Half the time I carry one and the other half I carry a sig sauer p938 which is a compact 1911!. Great video guys!.