My thoughts Sony A7IV vs FX6 over the last couple months
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- Опубліковано 23 сер 2024
- My thoughts Sony A7IV vs FX6 over the last couple months
This video is all about my thoughts and my opinions on the sony a7iv vs the sony fx6. These cameras are usually for different people but the capabilities of smaller mirrorless cameras are pretty exciting to see. I know both these cameras extremely well in professional situations with my commercials and I know each weakness and strength. They both have strengths and weaknesses.
I know for a fact that both these cameras will give you brilliant results if you know how to use them well and most of all light the situation appropriately.
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I love your reviews Jason. At 60yo I’m just starting my filming journey!….lol…I love my A74. Thanks for all your great tips 😀👍🥰
never too old to start your journey Nash. You've got the advantage of a mature head and thought process. Enjoy the journey my friend
As I own both cameras like you, I agree to everything you said in this video. It depends on what you are using the camara for: The FX6 has the better audio inputs, the much faster and flexible way of changing the ND-Filter, the better lowlight performance, the less rolling-shutter-effect and the more professional look as the A7IV has the slightly sharper image due to its 7k oversampling and the better performance on the Ronin-S gimbal due to its ibis and the more compact size and lighter weight. I often use both cameras together with the master primes as they match perfectly and shoot the wideangle-shots with the A7IV mounted on a gimbal using the 14F1.8, 20F1.8 or 35F1.4 and for the close-ups I take the FX6 with the 50F1.2, the 90M2.8 or the 135F1.8. My recommendation: If you have the money, buy both of them and if not, take the A7IV to safe money...
thanks I wondered if they would match
@@tonyamartin1425 You're welcome. I even get my RX10M4 matched to the FX6 and the A7IV by using S-Cinetone on the newer cameras and PP6 on the older one...
So excited to know that firmware updated the autofocus! This was a fantastic comparison 👍
I am selling my A7iv for $2000 bucks.
You can reach out to me if you’re interested.check it out👆👆👏
Commentating for the algo, love what I have seen so far Jason.
Hi Jason. I like your videos so much. It so fun to watch. I learn a lot about aesthetic & technical camera stuff through your videos. Thank you so so much for sharing your in-depth experience and Knowledge through your videos.
Awesome, thank you!
So my A cam for video is the a7Siii which I went with for a multitude of reasons but the biggest reasons are the dynamic range, frame rate options (4k120 and 1080p240), rolling shutter performance, and low light capability. Those things alone separate the a7Siii from most every other camera in this range. I don't think you can go wrong with Sony period! The best thing about it is you can legitimately buy whatever you need.
I am selling my A7iv for $2000 bucks.
You can reach out to me if you’re interested.check it out👆👆👏
We use the FX6 for all our videos. Couldn´t be happier. Fantastic camera.
As much as I enjoy your video's Jason, I always seem to get distracted by the additional kit you have on set with you. Some of your camera supports look fantastic, especially that steady cam arm and gimbal. Keep up the good work :)
haha love this. Thank you. Yes, the rigs from digitalfoto I use are amazing and very useful on sets
It is Such a great video. You have said all I need to know to choose my new camera. thanks !
Amazing video and information!! Thank you for sharing. Almost at the end of this video you were talking about where most of your money should be invested on besides the cameras... can you make a video about that. For exampl, if someone wants to start a business like yours but on a smaller scale! 🙏🙏 this would be an amazing topic for one of your videos! This is one of the best channels on camara gear and filmmaking!!
I’ve been using my A7IV a lot recently and there have only been 2 major downsides to it. The one that is the biggest deal to me is rolling shutter. I film a lot of dramatic sequences out of hand and it really caught me off guard how noticeable it is. And the other is that I can’t use the focus mapping with my vintage lenses, which is where it would be most useful for. Aside from those things it’s wonderful!
How is the rolling shutter in APS-C mode? Heard its better?!?!?
absolutely for heavy hand held shots the rolling shutter wont be good. That is a given. Yes! I really wish they allowed focus mapping with manual lenses. I really really wish haha
@@silklion7375 I think it’s a lot better! So if you can get away with using the APS-C crop or just straight up setting your camera film in HD instead of 4K (if you don’t want the crop), I would definitely recommend it. To my eye that makes the rolling shutter not a distraction anymore at all. I haven’t been able to test the quality of that footage though, just the rolling shutter performance :)
@@KoenRH2803 that sounds good. I would like to know what you think when you tested the difference in Quality.
Ahhh I shoot with vintage lenses too I was wondering about this
I have use my A7IV for work since the day I got it. Amazing performace, good control and very impressive image quality compared with my fs5 and z cam. However, I do run into overheating issue while shooting 4K60 in crop mode twice in the room tempreture at around 20c. Apart from that, this is the best sony hybrid camera I have ever used. BTW, the way you customize the tool box for FX6 is very inspiring!!
I am selling my A7iv for $2000 bucks.
You can reach out to me if you’re interested.check it out👆👆👏
Do you get that issue when using V-Mount, or the internal battery? I seem to have this issue only with internal battery.
@@OmniVisionElite are you looking to buy an a7iv for a discounted price?
@@OmniVisionElite I am using the internal battery because the camera was on the gimbal
45100 amazing friends already ;) Keep up the good work, I love your channel!
I’m working only with instagram content and for me the a7iv it’s perfect. I’ve filmed a fashion film in 4k 60 + 1080 120 (10 bits S&Q) and even when I was editing on davinci the difference was not aggressive. I had zero problems with overheating and I live in Brazil.
I am selling my A7iv for $2000 bucks.
You can reach out to me if you’re interested.check it out👆👆👏
4:12
How do you change the shutter speed in small increments on A7 IV for video?
I love my FX6 😍 but as you said Jason, it always depends on the situation 👍🏻 best cinematic greetings from germany
Great video, very informative. Thanks
Great video Jason thx… quick fx6 question… do you get some play/ shake in your side handle? I just picked up mine and getting a little bit of movement. It’s quite annoying so just checking if normal. Cheers mate and great job on the channel
Looking forward to that “What’s in my truck” video 😆 Not a film maker but I am curious ahout the gear you use for commercials
hahahahaha I'll make this happen
Just found your channel, cool stuff! Nice to see a creator from across the ditch.
Dude, please do a vid on the FX6 crate/carry case you have made. That is so cool! Hey from another QLD FX6 shooter btw. Cheers mate!
you got it nick! great idea. Thank for watching and good choice on that camera!!!
I've seen people get kicked out of public spaces when trying to shoot B roll on their "Cinema Camera". Enter A7IV nobody notices, not even your audience.
that is a massive plus for the smaller cameras!! great comment
Concerning the FX6 and transport. Indeed backpacks are not a good option. However, Portabrace shoulder camera bags such as the Cam2 range are really great!
Just got the A7IV to B cam for my A7Siii 💪🏻. Really good for photos
Love my fx6, a7siii, a7iv lineup. Each camera has its place in the commercial space. I do love the little switch on the a7iv to hop between video and photo mode. Makes it a great bts camera or run and gun for quick social content. Best value camera system out there!
Hello mate. Lovely video.
However switch to ECS in the shutter mode on the FX6. I use it when shooting screens and video walls and it can dial in more precision than the a74.
Still, I have a a74 and hire an fx6 for what it's worth
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The apsc crop and clear image zoom is an under appreciated feature of the a7iv. Glad you’re getting the message out! Is the maximum clear image zoom for apsc in 4K 2x? That’s what it was in the old A7Rii
I am selling my A7iv for $2000 bucks.
You can reach out to me if you’re interested.check it out👆👆👏
Yes, I have a couple of old Sony lenses from my APS-C A77. They seem to work fine in crop mode, though the focus is VERY slow.
I also have both the A7iv and the FX6. Would love it if each had the features of the other. But that cannot be, for things which are physical, such as the superb inbuilt variable ND in the FX6. Already finding it a pain to have ND externally on the A7iv. I have been using Sony camcorders for 20 years in Australia, all of which had some form of internal ND. Agree that it would be nice to have shutter angle in the A7. Still getting used to have an SLR style camera and having to rig it like a camcorder with mics and monitors and a shoulder cage. I do wish that the stripped down FX6 had an external mic input. That was very remiss of Sony, not to let us use a radio pack or other external mic when on a gimbal.
Jason do you shoot SLOG 3 on your A7IV or another picture profile ? I was thinking about getting the FX3 as B-Cam to my FX6. But the way you talk about the A7IV is starting to look more attractive to me. Thank mate
S-log 3 always! Strongly recommend the a7iv over the FX3 specially since you already have the fx6. Good to have two really strong cameras whereas the FX3 is just a smaller fx6 with less features
@@JasonMorrisphotocinema Appreciate the help, Thanks Jason. love your channel and content
The physical buttons are a uge plus on a pro camera like the FX6, also seamless ND and XLR on board. Of course, a smaller Cam can be rigged up step by step for your needs. I could test the
A 7IV for a few days. In APSC mode, rolling shutter seems to be almost half as noticable. So in the few cases you have very fast follow pans, it might be better to change.
I am selling my A7iv for $2000 bucks.
You can reach out to me if you’re interested.check it out👆👆👏
Great video as always! I love the A7IV, I actually like it more than my A7SIII. I like the image out of it a little better. It's also more detailed that the A7SIII, and when you zoom in 200%, the A7IV is still sharp, while the A7SIII gets soft. Sometimes I feel as if the A7SIII is not a true 4K camera, I used to have the Samsung NX1 and it was super sharp when zoomed 200%. I actually think that due to the loss in the delayering/demosaicing process, you actually need to have more pixels to achieve true 4K once debayered. I sold my FX6 after 8 months, I hated it except for the variable ND. I found it really clunky to use, and the image was too clean, almost video-ish, and the skin tones were orange. the FX6 doesn't have the organic look the A7IV and A7SIII have, in my opinion.
How about overheating with the A7iv vs the A7sIII?
@@eliasgottschlich My A74 has never overheated on me ever when recording in a warm environment at 4k24 or 60. I do use it with the screen out almost always, and I did turn on the correct overheat setting in the menu. Its simply never been an issue. And coming from an R5, I am a pro on the concept of overheating.
thanks for sharing this
@@RockyColaFizz Thank you for your response! I just a little concerned that the high heat setting could damage the internals in the long run..
What are youre thoughts about this?
Great comparison between the 2 cameras. As much as I want an FX6, I'm going to hold out for a mark 2 version. Likely with the future FX6 mark 2, we'll see the XR cpu processor and 8K resolution in it. I just feel like Sony rush the FX6 when it could've taken its time with it. For now, the a7iv is sufficient enough to get my work done.
The FX6 was due considering the Fs5 and Fs5ii were a fair few years ago now. I feel the FX9 was rushed. FX6 was perfect timing. Still a hard camera to buy as stock is crazy low everywhere
@@JasonMorrisphotocinema what is the best way to buy a Fx6? considering its low stock?
I was going to make the jump to the a7iv but the overheating issues has me worried for long term use. Went the a7siii route for this reason.
I have used the a7iv with full day shoots and no overheating. In saying this is use a v-mount battery to give me more power and it certainly takes care of any overheating
This is the best decision you made brother. I tried 2 a7iv and they are unusable for professional video gig. Overheating so much. 😖
I myself didnt have an overheating issue, I even tried to record test 4k60 for an hour and NO overheating. I just dont understand who would record 4k60 for that long. I'm glad I went with the A7IV, but I bet a7siii rocks!!
Just watched your video again, thanks for your work. What I noticed for the first time comparing the image to the other cameras is that in my opinion the FX6 has noticeable more 3D pop/microcontrast. Did you really use the same lens for all cameras? Maybe the heavy noise reduction in A7siii/FX3 and perhaps A7iv as well is reducing microcontrast…
Definitely used the same lens
Hi Jason! The big question for you: I asked here and there, but no one has an answer. I bought recently a Sony a7IV, coming from Canon. I have issues connecting my Atomos Ninja V. First when I connect the HDMI cable, I don't see any image on the Atomos. Second, I don't know how to record from it or in general how to set up the camera in the menu.
Can you do a video about that? Searching online, you will be the only one with this video and I'm sure I'm not the only one who struggles with this problem!
hello my friend good video. I have a question; I just bought the sony a7iv and I am wondering why when ir recoding 30p 4k 4.2.0 8bt it shuts down at 40 minutes recoding even with the high temperature on. I really don't know what's going on. it said that is too hot. at 30 minutes turn the warning lights on and at 40 minutes turn of. can you help me please? thanks in advance
Nice Video. Thanks!
How do you deal with the rolling shutter of the Sony A7IV? Is it still looking good in 4K 25p?
there hasn't been a time in my commercials rolling shutter performance has made a difference. It will be super rare unless you film sports, fast paced action or really whipping the camera around like crazy
Both slick cameras. i'd go the FX6 too, I just prefer having locking IO, physical audio pots and internal NDs
absolutely James. We are due for a coffee catch up my man!
@@JasonMorrisphotocinema yeah man for sure, always keen to catch up and talk shop. I am pretty swamped with deadlines at the moment, but come March I could def fit in a social life hahaha!
🤩tahnks!
Hey man. Awesome channel. Been watching some vids (i don’t think i ever commented though? 🤔). I have a question about the rolling shutter on the A7IV: in APSC mode i hear it isn’t as bad… have you tried it? Did you publish any footage that shows the difference anywhere? (If you did i missed it) thanks 😊
Great Video Jason. My A7IV comes today! I have a question, what are the perks of using an atmos ninja V or the V+ with the A7IV, and is there any real benefit to it. Maybe you can make a video about this!
looking forward to hearing from you.
no major benefit using the atomos monitors. You can record the screen with the settings. That is a big deal for youtubers but other than that it's pretty expensive for the A7IV
@@JasonMorrisphotocinema thanks , appreciate this, Is there any other alternative for screen recording the Sony cameras?
@@avicreates it that I know of sorry.
Use the Ninja if you want to record RAW. The latest A7 upgrade allows RAW through HDMI so you don’t need the SDI adapter for the Ninja.
@@RaymondToms are you referring to the A7IV outputting Raw over HDMI? Which firmware is this?
When you travel with your FX6 to a local or relatively local shoot do you break the rig down and pack it?
What if you use both. How hard is it to match footage in post, using Slog 3?
Nice,.thank for sharing👍🙏👈
Thanks for visiting
Jason! There's talk going around that the A7IV can do 4k60 uncropped thanks to an exploit. I've emailed you the details if you find it to be an interesting video topic. Cheers!
Yooo David please let me in on this!!!
This was debunked already by Gerald & iPhonedo.
@@AJCoReTV Yeah, I know. I sent the tip to multiple youtubers and voila, a bit later there was a video up.
great video
what is 1080p like in crop mode super 35
crop much different to full frame 1080p. although crop and clear image zoom in 1080 is crazy clear. almost 4k quality
@@JasonMorrisphotocinema Thanks
I presume when you say different you mean 1080p is better in crop mode
Does a LUT cost a LUT?
I need one with a LUT of red-orange-blue ^^
Well said.
thanks bobby
that color shift on. the A7IV ??? what is your opinion about that color and are you always correcting in post? Sometimes its nice to hand the client the footage at the shoot..... just curious if need to prep this color all the time
some prefer the skin tones and colors of the new sony cameras. Honestly the 10 bit allows so much adjustments and colors become personal preference. Hard to please everyone. I don't mind the color, I just prefer different
Oo what about a74 vs the a 1? I mean I beats the a74 in every way. Better photo/higher mega pixel. 8k? I want to know your thoughts?
The A1 wins in almost every way except for flip screen and a few small features in the a7iv like focus breathing comp and focus mapping
I am seriously considering exchanging my a7Siii for a7iv because this camera will be fantastic with all my apsc lenses. Most of my work is videos anyways.
That could be a massive deal if you want to use aps-c lenses. A7IV will be incredible for that, that is for sure
@@JasonMorrisphotocinema all due credit to youtubers like you that I thought a7IV will be a better buy 😀. I thought I could buy extra full frame Lens with the money I would save.
Strange to be back in the world of full frame after 50 years. My first Pentax 35mm film camera back in the 60’s. Interesting that technology has still not overcome the basic limitation of zooms only being 3-4 x, rather than the 24x of my small sensor camcorders like the X180.
I reckon it’s a similar story of the dji inspire v mavic pro
Compact but capable 🤙
you are right. Very similar comparison
A7siii all the way :)
Its beast ⚡ surprise battle ✨
i love it
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7:27 WHAT! A7iv seems to be the worst of the lot. It looks worse than even the A7iii which people say has below average color science. Are you sure you didn't exchange the a7iii & iv shots?
im ready to buy one more camera for my setup. this is video is the last one after 20+ I saw the last hours .... ALL ON YOU NOW WHAT am gonna choose haha :P
lets see... pressing the play
Teach us about lighting!!
done deal!
What’s in my truck? 😂😂😂👍🏻
hahahaha accepted
@5:53 why is the A7IV skintone looks ugly? is it because u didnt set the white balance?
Looks greenish me too. Same settings on every camera?
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Are you using the Atomos Ninja V or V+?
ninja v my friend
@@JasonMorrisphotocinema I really made the mistake of buying the V+ 🤦🏻♂️ I feel like the V would’ve been more than sufficient & way more “plug & play”
@@mrgross ahhh yeah. Damn it’s great as it has slightly more features and can record RAW with other cameras. Ninja V is just fine
I thought the A7iV had over heating problems 🤷🏿♂️
It looks like a camcorder from the 90'. Especially that handle is really ugly. That's a huge turn off for me. Not buying untill and unless they do something about the handle design.
Sounds like you need the sony A1
I wish I had it to be honest
OK if you have the money.
14 minutes isn't a long video. :)
glad you think so. Most think 8 minutes is too long haha
1/8000 shutter speed on the Sony A7IV is very low, not friendly at all... In sunny day, we need use ND Filter, gargabe :(
I recommend ND filters anyway rather than cranking the shutter
Shouldn’t be using high shutter speed on video anyway. 90% of the time 180 degrees or the 2 x rule applies.
🤣 Promo`SM!
lol ok, lets talk with sony, let's just dismiss all the cinema line cameras
First
and pointless.