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You're missing still camera features in a video camera and not appreciating professional features because you actually don't really need them. Yes, of course pro cameras are not as portable as DSLRs. Instead of appreciating the fact that has proper XLRs you say that it doesn't have minijacks on the body...
@@RyyS back in de these for this type of money you get a profesional video handheld camcorder. they have also the xlr on the handle. we are know to spoiled with these type of things. we are also to spoiled with DoF shots , sensor size and resolution. most of the people dont see the differnce between 4k and hd. even 1080p vs 720p
@@RyyS that its normal to have xlr connectors at the top. sony focused really hard with the fs7 , fx6 and fx9 to get the same erconomics of a normal broadcast camera. that is the reason why they have servo controlls on the grip. in the cinema world they dont use it. for broadcast is it great. so i see this not as a cinema camera. but a fullframe broadcast camcorder camera.
@@iComplainer go for a Fuji X camera instead then, and spend on their amazing cinema lenses... Fuji has Eterna, also easily gradable flat image for video, as well as F-log for straight up log video
@@mortenthorpe Nah. Fuji lenses are kinda dump tier imo. So many other Cinema lens companies that make much better cine primes, and so many of Fujis non cine lens have audible autofocus motors and have slow focusing. Also, Fuji video doesn't have the latitude that other brands have when it comes to editing in terms of file flexibility and DR.
@@RiceCubeTech not exactly valid or verifiable points, with no concrete proof and comparison... I’d say that the new Fuji lenses are awesome for video, like the 16-80, the new 10-24, even the older 50-140 2.8, and then given the bodies of the X-T3, X-T4 or the X-H1 you’re set to go...! Remember that most people post online anyway, treat cinematographers go for RED and Blackmagic...and of course Arri
The Sony fx6 and the Sony a7s iii are actually very similar cameras. For one, they share similar sensors. Phillip Bloom did a review on the fx6 and said that it was basically a Sony mirrorless camera in a cinema body. Ultimately, I plan on sticking with the Sony fx6 because my industry friends, who operate Stanton Jimmy jibs for the NFL and Bally Sports, tell me that 90% of the shoots they work on (in film production environments) are using the Sony fx6 right now. Other UA-camrs I’ve listened to have also said that it functions as an “A cam” and collaborates well on set. That being said, I do see the value in owning a Sony a7s iii. I would definitely use it for videography if I wanted something quick and clean, and I would pair it as a “B cam” in an interview setting. It would have some limits as a rental product. I would only rent it as part of a package or loan to a filmmaker friend but probably not as the main cinema camera for a film set. Anyway, just some thoughts. I did extensive research on this camera as I was weighing pros and cons of different cameras for when I chose to upgrade. The FX6 is the perfect camera for my workflow. Thanks for your review. 🤙
I have them both 3 to the A7s3 and a FX6. I have to say i understand your feelings 100% and really you made a great decision. I Love the FX6 but i use Cine cameras a lot and love them a bit more then most mirrorless. Mainly because of the art of using cine cameras and the form factor of corse. It's not for everyone and the A7S3 is a beast that just works great but i'm keeping my FX6 lol. Thanks Max keep the great reviews coming
There are some limitations and the menu kinda sucks but I love mine. I am hoping that software updates fix a lot of these issues. I don’t blame you though for liking the A7S3 better since I have both.
I don't see why having no audio in 120 fps is much of a problem personally. It pretty much only exists to do B Roll. I would not complain if they added the necessary codec to do it though.
Must admit this a bunch of UA-camr only complaints for the most part outside of the audio portion. Most of these things useless for Cine ei. And mxf is a way better codec and workflow. As a professional operator who purchased this as b cam to my fx9, you didn’t do a good job covering the full spectrum of the market.
He is just a noob in cinema space. Just doesn’t know that in cine scenario menu and all that crap doesnt matter. No one is making youtube videos with this kind of camera.
Bro I don’t understand why UA-camr do this. I have never seen his professional work just UA-cam and that you can shoot with an iPhone like there really no real world application that he needs that just putting out negative comments out there for no reason be vary careful who ppl take advice from on the net and it’s not this fucking guy
I got the Fx6 instead of the a7siii because of: VarioND, Cinetone and easy Shouldermounting... with the FX6 youcan better shoot from your shoulder and get a better eye Line then the mirrorless, where most people shoot form the waist and get mostly angles from below, which is not that good. ... PS... the c70 has all cable mounting on the left side... so if you use this camera on your shoulder you get all the cables in your face 😜
Finally someone else talking about the cables sticking into your head or even your body on the C70. That’s part of the reason I’m going fx6, I want that “dumb” side with no cables.
As a video professional working in NYC, the MXF container is a positive not a negative. HEVC is such a headache to bring in to post without transcoding, and with HEVC you lose per frame metadata and intra-frame recording. MP4 is a delivery container, not an acquisition or intermediate container. Honestly ive seen a lot of people hate on XAVC-I wrapped in MXF because there's this myth that it's "legacy" but in pro circles using a camera that only records in HEVC LongGOP would be a deal breaker.
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@@nnnnnn3647 was this a reply to me?? I am not questioning that. I’m genuinely curious what type of video production needs these guys have, I mean, we take advice from them. Or at least we _consider_ it. It’s healthy to question their statements rather than take everything at face value. All I’ve ever seen from them is this style video despite every camera that comes out. Maybe a slight bump every couple years in audio quality and set design. So clearly their FX6 won’t be filming this, so I ask what do they do? Weddings appears to be the answer to that.
Theres seriously something wrong when a guy hosts a UA-cam page, has 184k subscribers and yet none of their website links go to a home page and their social links go to someone else's page. The Twitter has never even been used
HEY MAX, THEY CAN'T PUT IBIS ON THE CAMERA BECAUSE IT CANT BE USED WITH THE INTERNAL ND FILTERS. I KNOW WHAT SOME ARE GOING TO THINK ALREADY THE LITTLE RX100V USES AN INTERNAL ND FILTER AND IT HAS IBIS. THE ANSWER TO THAT IS ALSO SIMPLE THE ND FILTER IS AN ELECTRONIC ONE AND NOT A PHYSICAL PIECE OF GLASS IN FRONT OF THE SENSOR.
Very interesting review. I think it all depends on how you work. I have a fx6 as an main camera and a7s3 for sub. For gimbal work, I use A7s3 so it does not matter for me the lack of 3.5m audio jack of Fx6. Most of the problems can be solved by future firmware updates. Your said you go for 2 A7s3 rather than Fx6 and A7s3. But latter pair compensate each cameras weakness such as a variable ND and a view finder and so on. Besides, when hand holding Fx6, it is difficult to use touch screen unless you put shoulder rig on. The reliability is the most important for a professional work and in that sense, Fx6 is the way to go in my opinion.
It is annoying though, because there’s literally another camera using exactly the same technology and they just haven’t chosen to put in the superior touch screen software and menus. Obviously it’s not an absolute deal breaker, but there’s no doubt that touch tracking auto focus would be really really useful if you could tap and for it to work. And again adding a 3.5mm jack to such a compact cinema camera is just such an obvious thing they should have done. People in cinema space often get defensive about things like that “we only use xlr” but it’s just not true anymore and it’s such a small implementation that would make a huge difference to so many productions, why not just do it? Sometimes xlr isn’t worth the size for the situation or the price etc, just add a stupid little port, it’s not an iPhone.... The number of technologies that come out and they miss out such annoying little things that makes years of work just a tiny bit annoying every day, especially when you can see they could do it on a cheaper smaller camera released in the same year.
@@frankfeng2701 Yeah, they already released a teaser photo several months ago of what my guess is the 24-70 and the 70-200 blacked out in background of the 16-35mm but that doesn't mean they shouldn't update the 28-135mm or create other cine primes. All the sony cine glass thus far have been G lenses as well so there is room for Sony GM Cines
The 16-35 is a re-housed stills lens... for over $5K. Sorry, I’ll pass. That lens should be priced no more than $3K. Want $5K? Optics should be revised.
Why do you want an update? I ordered the Sony SEL 28-135 mm 1:4 FE OSS PZ G for my new Sony FX6 (pre ordered) ok it is an older lense, but do you think it is not good for the FX6? Best cinematic greetings from germany
@@schoeferfilm I have the lens and it's a great lens but it still has several quirks to it because it's an early lens from Sony. The bokeh is too busy and nervous, there is a delay in zooming, the AF isn't as great as what it is now on recent sony lenses, the AF hunts and loses focus, and it's an f4 which is probably a t4.5.
question, so it looks like right now the FX6 is about $6,000. can you tell me about the estimate cost of the other needed gear - mics, mounts, lenses that one would need to buy in addition to operate this camera? not the extra things, but just the other things that is necessary. would it be an additional $3K - $5K? Thanks
You don't need iso roll, because you should not be using iso to expose. Set iso to 800/1600/12800 and use ND to expose. Also other than gimbal, the top handle is basically always there for audio, and this camera is intended with the use of external recordist (hence Timecode in/out). Seems you just are not the target case fot this.
Damn. I’m getting mine tomorrow. Same boat. Shooting now with the A7SIII and was contemplating canceling my preorder for the same reasons. For certain workflow if you own an A7SIII this camera could be a downgrade and slow down despite the upside. What kills me is no form of stabilization because the catalyze browse workflow is a no go for me, especially when with over 100 clips.. I guess there is only one way to find out for me..
Hi Max, I've been watching your videos for a few years now, and one thing that makes me question your camera reviews is the lack of context. Without seeing examples of your paid work (not just daytime exterior slow-motion shots) it is difficult to really understand why you like some products and not others. You frequently point out that "if you use this product to feed your family...," so why would you review a cinema camera to do corporate work and then give them a negative review by saying the cinema camera is not a good financial choice....., Do you make short films or shoot movies? If so would you recommend a a7s iii ?? Then again if you didn't review every camera out there regardless of its intended use you would have fewer videos and less drama? We all know drama is good for yt channels! I also checked the links in the About Page of your channel and they are all dead. Does this mean that youtube is your primary source of income?
I love Sony, but I'm truly disappointed with the lackluster release of the FX6. The whole world has gotten the FX6 and yet not even my local camera business (Which as a franchise is very popular in the Midwest) had received any. B&H and Adorama have gotten a trickling amount of FX6s. I'm eager to see the FX6 soon but I guess I'll be using the A7S III I received on day 1.
Yes, it looks like Sony is not shipping any FX6 cameras. One of the largest retailer on the East coast received only two units. I’m expecting my camera in the next shipment as per my camera store. But that may be as far away as February. So why the delay? There was a fire at the AKM factory that makes some components for Sony. Initially, we believed that the FX6 was unaffected by this, but I have it on good authority that this was not the case. So we might be looking at considerable back-order delays. I plan on doing a detailed comparison with the Canon C70 once my FX6 gets in. Feel free to sub to my channel if you are interested to be notified when the video goes live. Here’s a link to the story about the fire that caused this fiasco: www.strata-gee.com/akm-fire-2020-was-almost-over-then-disaster-struck-again/
It’s more than the VD it’s about the heat sink. You can use catalyst browse for stabilization. In terms of the XLR the fs5 users complained about XLR on the body so that’s why it’s in the handle. You can press the iso gain button and change it from the wheel on the handle. I suggest going in the XdCam user website to find out more. If someone can step down from an FX9 to this then it can’t be that bad. Overall good review.
I agree with Max - if you’re good with the A7s III then you likely done need the FX-6 variable ND, separate audio inputs with 4-channels of audio, battery options that can provide p-tap to monitors/recorders, SDI output (simultaneously with HDMI) and timecode in/out. But if you need those things, then the FX6 is a beast for $7k.
And how did I forget that the two independent xlr audio inputs accept mic or level input with the ability to supply phantom power. Which you could add to the A7sIII with the XLR-K3M for $600
I wish one you filmmakers actually make a film. You guys debate in bitch about this & that about camera gear in no one is uploading any films. You, Potato Jet, The Northrups, Theoria Apophasis, Camera Conspiracies guy with the brown teeth... absolutely no footage with these awesome cameras. I dont get it.
Potato Jet does use his cinema cameras professionally, There are some cameras like A7S III that he only uses for UA-cam. Max is an event videographer. The Northrups are photographers and Camera Conspiracies is comedy. Not everyone makes movies with these cameras.
Nice video and nice review I’m trying to purchase the Sony a 73 what do you think about the camera because I have one camera it’s a Sony camcorder handheld but I’m trying to upgrade my gear from a channel and I was looking into another Sony camera so I’m trying to decide between the Sony a 73 and the Sony a 7C🙏🏽
a73 is a beast, got it myself and having it since 2 years without any issues so far. It's one of the best hybrid cameras and nowadays cheap. Sure, A7S3 is a better film camera but the A73 takes the better picutres, it's a much better allrounder and it's not like video mode would be bad :-P It's no coincidence that it kind of turned into a youtuber / content creator "industry standard" just like rode microphones. But anyway it's much more about the lenses and what you can do with it rather than the body. Daniel Schiffer / Peter Lindgren have a lot of cool videos shot on a73 if you wanna take a look. and regarding 7c there are tons of good reviews on youtube. Personally even again I would go a73, form factor is much better since the body is already tiny
I was the second person in the world to have the FE T/3.1 lens and it is not heavy at all. Actually provider more girth to any camera body you put it on!
Hi Max - thanks for the thorough review. Will you be doing one for the Canon c70? I recently got that camera and love it and would love to hear your thoughts. (I debated getting the FX6 since I wasn’t in either lens s system, but the C70 had a few advantages like mini xlrs on the camera, a more innovative form factor, DGO sensor and a future-proof RF mounts. It’s been a treat to use so far).
You mentioned that the camera has a 6k sensor and downsamples to 4K when you were looking at the low light performance. That’s the FX9 not the FX6. The FX6 is a 4K sensor.
I don't think I did unless unless was an editing mistake and something was cut out that wasn't supposed to. Some Sony camera I have have 6K Sensors like the A7iii and a6400, and of course the FX9 which I don't have.
Thanks for the video Max, I totally agree with your thoughts. I have the FX6 and still waiting on an a7S III. I've heard there are some upsides and trade-offs to both but for me I love the cine-type form factor and built in ND's are life changing, it's tough to go back. Here's hoping firmware can fix the audio and auto-focus, then I'll be extremely happy. Have a great New Year!
The AF issue looks like user error. To use AF you must be using a multiple of the base frame rate (for S&Q)... that is for 30p... 60, 90 120. For 25p... 50, 75, 100.
I have been told that the AKM plant fire is what caused the FX6 6-8 week shipping delays. Very few people have them and Sony is not shipping any today. (I understand that some grey market models hit the streets) Let's hope this global parts problem doesn't effect other Sony cameras too. I believe the Sony K3M mic adapter is also not shipping either to any retailers.
I've owned the A7S3 for over half a year, and I think it's a video monster. But it's not as professional in many ways as the FX6. DCI4K, the best built-in ND filter, more professional buttons, etc. To achieve DCI4 K on A7S3, I bought Ninjia V. However, the heavier body and more money didn't give me a satisfactory picture(low light situation). The built-in ND of the FX6 greatly increases the flexibility of dual native ISO. The manual setting of high or low ISO can avoid awkward positions like iso 10000 on A7S3... (This is really painful). Finally, though, the A7S3 is very powerful for shot video. But you can't deny it's still a DLSR body. So, the buttons aren't exactly suitable for video work (the new menu does some redeeming).
Idk, I have the A7S III and the XLR-K3M, and I’m keeping my preorder for the FX6. The ability to turn off noise reduction, turn off sharpening, amazing EVND tech ( game changing for outside shooting) and S-Cinetone make this a worthy addition. I think the FX6 will prove to be a major win. I plan on doing a comparison to the Canon C70 once Sony resumes shipments. If you’re curious to see this match up feel free to sub to my channel to be notified when the video goes live. So many great cameras out now... we live in special times.
No you dont. Internal VND which dont give color shift compared to screw on ND filter is the main reason for getting FX6 over Siii. If you need to shoot fast in all kind of lighting environment you will truly appreciate it. Try screwing or inserting ND filter dozen of times in a day.
I’m super pumped for this camera. I was number three on the list, and Sony only shipped two bodies out, so I’m still waiting. You’re lucky to have received one so early. What are your thoughts after having used it?
the image from fx6 just looks much better to me in turm of image texture soft skin the log looks a little bit better and the skin color looks better i can say that its really close to the fx9 also the codec is much better in fx6 with a7s3/fx3 i have monster pc and its not that fun to edit a7s3 4K the fx6 reminds me more the fs7 and the a7s3 looks like good quality but more video hope to see the comperison soon even if this is the same sensor the image is not the same
@@TheTechnoPilot Yes, but why? Is this a physical limitation of the lower end camera, or is this some type of algorithm that's written for the higher end camera to differentiate it and provide added value? In other words is this a physical/software limitation?
@@NONE2NONE it can be both physical aspects of sensor development, it will usually be the algorithm that does the bayer pattern conversion of luminance levels from sensor to colour image saved to file. This can improve both by more development but also for artificial differentiation of the camera lines. Note that truthfully, while Cinetone pleasing, it’s actually a stylized look with Sony’s default r.709 being more tonally accurate, so they could argue that it’s not a replacement for normal profile. The point however being I suspect there is zero technical reason why the A7SIII couldn’t have Cinetone, or exactly match the FX9.
It’s hard to say, my gut tells me it’s mostly just firmware. However, the power draw from the FX6 is clearly greater than that of the A7S III. While one has a fan, this is likely required as the sensor is being pushed harder; perhaps utilizing features that are not used in the mirrorless variant? One thing is certain, while they use similar technology, these cameras remain different in several important ways.
I've heard the FX6 footage is less digital and more robust when color grading. I'll wait for your review and see but the XLRs in the handle plus the limitation of shooting raw with the Ninja V, which is more combinient sidewise than the bulky shogun are making me going toward the combination of the A7S plus the Pocket 6k.
The "two teams" worked together on this camera, that is why this thin is an α. That is why it is so frustrating they went with the "cine" menu design and not with the α. Nonetheless, my preorder is in :)
I have the Z90 as well. 2lbs lighter, 28-300 lens, 8 speed power zoom, built in IBIS and 4 step ND (non auto). Excellent erognomics and 4:2:2 10 bit in 1080p. Hard to abandon all that for the heavier FX6.
@@brianhammerstein I had the z90 but it had a videoish look not suitable at all for cinematic shooting. I got rid of it and I don't regret it. It is not the type of image that my clients are looking for these days.
@@TelevisionCrews I hear what you are saying. I just starting using an A7SIII in Cinetone mode with a 24 105. Much nicer image than the Z90. I would prefer the variable ND of the FX6.
Max, I gotta say I was surprised by your review. But then again from watching this video I didn't feel this was all that great of a camera. Am I wrong?
Well done like usual. Good info. It's so strange how they make the AF hard to operate through the touch screen. Their smaller ENG cameras suffer from the same problem- the nx80 is one of them
This is so weird. Consumers have made it so DSLR style still photography cameras are now rated higher than cinema cameras for actual entry level professional cinema production. Since consumers stopped buying fancy video cameras for home use, they forced the camera manufacturers to put all their time and resources into making better DSLR cameras. The situation has created a weird void, where camcorders have worse picture quality and lower technology than DSLR cameras. The next big boom will be FX6 style cinema cameras, priced within reach of a home enthusiast and podcaster. I will buy one as soon as it has proper auto focus. Come on Nikon!
It could have been the perfect cam - but they left out the object tracking feature (on purpose?) - so the touch feature is kind of useless - what a pity! Sony fix it!!!
Just about AF . You have to be on an exact frame rate of your base. So if you’re shooting 25p you get AF at 50, 75 and 100 FPS. If you’re shooting 30p af works at at 60,90 and 120fps.
Kind of don't mention what you're requirements are? If it's just shooting YT review videos and the kids (and there's nothing wrong with that!) then the DSLR probably is better
Might as well go with Red Komodo at that price. Agree on another a7s III. Wish Sigma would make an MC-11 adapter with a variable ND!!!! Please Max use your industry position to help make that happen! 😀
@@JonPais, Komodo starting at $5995 isn't more than FX6 which was camera referenced.. depending on what equipment already have that's the most reasonable industry standard cinema camera to date!
Ya going to pay 8 grand for a camera it better not fail in focus at all. I don't blame you dude. Who wants a Rolls Royce with a skip in the engine anyway.
What a rudimentary review ! FX6 is a cinema camera and you are talking as if this is a mirrorless DSLR. The VND it has itself is worth the entire camera. You would know of you are shooting in filmic scenarios.
@@matthewphillips5483 buddy I am not clowning him, he is great and I love his videos. What I was commenting on was the review of FX6, its not a an ordinary camera. Just wait and watch as the tech improves it will cater to increased IR susceptibility too, the Electronic VND does a great job, may not be at its best yet !
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Find it hard to believe the autofocus 'issue' wasn't just a user setup error. Surely this is just tweaking settings until it reacts as you want.
You're missing still camera features in a video camera and not appreciating professional features because you actually don't really need them. Yes, of course pro cameras are not as portable as DSLRs. Instead of appreciating the fact that has proper XLRs you say that it doesn't have minijacks on the body...
it doesn't... you need to have some kind of extension (called the handle) to have ANY audio input
@@RyyS back in de these for this type of money you get a profesional video handheld camcorder. they have also the xlr on the handle. we are know to spoiled with these type of things. we are also to spoiled with DoF shots , sensor size and resolution. most of the people dont see the differnce between 4k and hd. even 1080p vs 720p
@@PyroKalfje not sure if I understand what's your point here
@@RyyS that its normal to have xlr connectors at the top. sony focused really hard with the fs7 , fx6 and fx9 to get the same erconomics of a normal broadcast camera. that is the reason why they have servo controlls on the grip. in the cinema world they dont use it. for broadcast is it great. so i see this not as a cinema camera. but a fullframe broadcast camcorder camera.
@@PyroKalfje that makes sense. The problem is, nowadays a lot of people put those cameras on gimbals, etc. And for that, the handle is a no-go.
Variable ND filter is the key differentiator for me. Otherwise I’d get the A7SIII
And cinestyle..
@@iComplainer go for a Fuji X camera instead then, and spend on their amazing cinema lenses... Fuji has Eterna, also easily gradable flat image for video, as well as F-log for straight up log video
@@mortenthorpe What ??
@@mortenthorpe Nah. Fuji lenses are kinda dump tier imo. So many other Cinema lens companies that make much better cine primes, and so many of Fujis non cine lens have audible autofocus motors and have slow focusing. Also, Fuji video doesn't have the latitude that other brands have when it comes to editing in terms of file flexibility and DR.
@@RiceCubeTech not exactly valid or verifiable points, with no concrete proof and comparison... I’d say that the new Fuji lenses are awesome for video, like the 16-80, the new 10-24, even the older 50-140 2.8, and then given the bodies of the X-T3, X-T4 or the X-H1 you’re set to go...! Remember that most people post online anyway, treat cinematographers go for RED and Blackmagic...and of course Arri
All the things complained about are features you DON'T find in a cinema camera...
The Sony fx6 and the Sony a7s iii are actually very similar cameras. For one, they share similar sensors. Phillip Bloom did a review on the fx6 and said that it was basically a Sony mirrorless camera in a cinema body. Ultimately, I plan on sticking with the Sony fx6 because my industry friends, who operate Stanton Jimmy jibs for the NFL and Bally Sports, tell me that 90% of the shoots they work on (in film production environments) are using the Sony fx6 right now. Other UA-camrs I’ve listened to have also said that it functions as an “A cam” and collaborates well on set.
That being said, I do see the value in owning a Sony a7s iii. I would definitely use it for videography if I wanted something quick and clean, and I would pair it as a “B cam” in an interview setting. It would have some limits as a rental product. I would only rent it as part of a package or loan to a filmmaker friend but probably not as the main cinema camera for a film set. Anyway, just some thoughts. I did extensive research on this camera as I was weighing pros and cons of different cameras for when I chose to upgrade. The FX6 is the perfect camera for my workflow. Thanks for your review. 🤙
Hey Josh - how does the FX3 fit into the FX6 as a B cam?
I have them both 3 to the A7s3 and a FX6. I have to say i understand your feelings 100% and really you made a great decision. I Love the FX6 but i use Cine cameras a lot and love them a bit more then most mirrorless. Mainly because of the art of using cine cameras and the form factor of corse. It's not for everyone and the A7S3 is a beast that just works great but i'm keeping my FX6 lol. Thanks Max keep the great reviews coming
There are some limitations and the menu kinda sucks but I love mine. I am hoping that software updates fix a lot of these issues. I don’t blame you though for liking the A7S3 better since I have both.
STILL WAITING FOR MINE :(
I don't see why having no audio in 120 fps is much of a problem personally. It pretty much only exists to do B Roll. I would not complain if they added the necessary codec to do it though.
Must admit this a bunch of UA-camr only complaints for the most part outside of the audio portion. Most of these things useless for Cine ei. And mxf is a way better codec and workflow. As a professional operator who purchased this as b cam to my fx9, you didn’t do a good job covering the full spectrum of the market.
He is just a noob in cinema space. Just doesn’t know that in cine scenario menu and all that crap doesnt matter. No one is making youtube videos with this kind of camera.
Bro I don’t understand why UA-camr do this. I have never seen his professional work just UA-cam and that you can shoot with an iPhone like there really no real world application that he needs that just putting out negative comments out there for no reason be vary careful who ppl take advice from on the net and it’s not this fucking guy
I got the Fx6 instead of the a7siii because of: VarioND, Cinetone and easy Shouldermounting... with the FX6 youcan better shoot from your shoulder and get a better eye Line then the mirrorless, where most people shoot form the waist and get mostly angles from below, which is not that good. ... PS... the c70 has all cable mounting on the left side... so if you use this camera on your shoulder you get all the cables in your face 😜
Finally someone else talking about the cables sticking into your head or even your body on the C70. That’s part of the reason I’m going fx6, I want that “dumb” side with no cables.
As a video professional working in NYC, the MXF container is a positive not a negative. HEVC is such a headache to bring in to post without transcoding, and with HEVC you lose per frame metadata and intra-frame recording. MP4 is a delivery container, not an acquisition or intermediate container. Honestly ive seen a lot of people hate on XAVC-I wrapped in MXF because there's this myth that it's "legacy" but in pro circles using a camera that only records in HEVC LongGOP would be a deal breaker.
Has full size XLR. Yeah I'd choose the as73 for audio..........
What do you guys actually produce _aside from_ UA-cam?
Weddings.
@@GabrielCastillo-vi3lg Hate?
The channel has over 500,000 subscribers as of 2020 and has accumulated over 100 million views so far. It is able to get an average of 200,000 views per day from different sources. This should generate an estimated revenue of $1,000 per day ($365,000 a year) from the ads that appear on the videos.
@@nnnnnn3647 was this a reply to me?? I am not questioning that. I’m genuinely curious what type of video production needs these guys have, I mean, we take advice from them. Or at least we _consider_ it. It’s healthy to question their statements rather than take everything at face value. All I’ve ever seen from them is this style video despite every camera that comes out. Maybe a slight bump every couple years in audio quality and set design. So clearly their FX6 won’t be filming this, so I ask what do they do? Weddings appears to be the answer to that.
@@iComplainer you're absolutely right. It is fair to question them. And BTW, weddings is on the lowest end of video production.
Theres seriously something wrong when a guy hosts a UA-cam page, has 184k subscribers and yet none of their website links go to a home page and their social links go to someone else's page. The Twitter has never even been used
He’s batman
HEY MAX, THEY CAN'T PUT IBIS ON THE CAMERA BECAUSE IT CANT BE USED WITH THE INTERNAL ND FILTERS. I KNOW WHAT SOME ARE GOING TO THINK ALREADY THE LITTLE RX100V USES AN INTERNAL ND FILTER AND IT HAS IBIS. THE ANSWER TO THAT IS ALSO SIMPLE THE ND FILTER IS AN ELECTRONIC ONE AND NOT A PHYSICAL PIECE OF GLASS IN FRONT OF THE SENSOR.
Did you say that there is no AF-tracking when the focus is touch screen-selected?
Very interesting review. I think it all depends on how you work. I have a fx6 as an main camera and a7s3 for sub. For gimbal work, I use A7s3 so it does not matter for me the lack of 3.5m audio jack of Fx6. Most of the problems can be solved by future firmware updates. Your said you go for 2 A7s3 rather than Fx6 and A7s3. But latter pair compensate each cameras weakness such as a variable ND and a view finder and so on. Besides, when hand holding Fx6, it is difficult to use touch screen unless you put shoulder rig on. The reliability is the most important for a professional work and in that sense, Fx6 is the way to go in my opinion.
It is annoying though, because there’s literally another camera using exactly the same technology and they just haven’t chosen to put in the superior touch screen software and menus. Obviously it’s not an absolute deal breaker, but there’s no doubt that touch tracking auto focus would be really really useful if you could tap and for it to work. And again adding a 3.5mm jack to such a compact cinema camera is just such an obvious thing they should have done. People in cinema space often get defensive about things like that “we only use xlr” but it’s just not true anymore and it’s such a small implementation that would make a huge difference to so many productions, why not just do it? Sometimes xlr isn’t worth the size for the situation or the price etc, just add a stupid little port, it’s not an iPhone.... The number of technologies that come out and they miss out such annoying little things that makes years of work just a tiny bit annoying every day, especially when you can see they could do it on a cheaper smaller camera released in the same year.
Seeing that 16-35mm, I hope they update the 28-135mm cine lens.
They'd mimic the trinity line.
@@frankfeng2701 Yeah, they already released a teaser photo several months ago of what my guess is the 24-70 and the 70-200 blacked out in background of the 16-35mm but that doesn't mean they shouldn't update the 28-135mm or create other cine primes. All the sony cine glass thus far have been G lenses as well so there is room for Sony
GM Cines
The 16-35 is a re-housed stills lens... for over $5K. Sorry, I’ll pass. That lens should be priced no more than $3K. Want $5K? Optics should be revised.
Why do you want an update? I ordered the Sony SEL 28-135 mm 1:4 FE OSS PZ G for my new Sony FX6 (pre ordered) ok it is an older lense, but do you think it is not good for the FX6? Best cinematic greetings from germany
@@schoeferfilm I have the lens and it's a great lens but it still has several quirks to it because it's an early lens from Sony. The bokeh is too busy and nervous, there is a delay in zooming, the AF isn't as great as what it is now on recent sony lenses, the AF hunts and loses focus, and it's an f4 which is probably a t4.5.
Do you prefer Panasonic AU EVA1 over FX6?
question, so it looks like right now the FX6 is about $6,000. can you tell me about the estimate cost of the other needed gear - mics, mounts, lenses that one would need to buy in addition to operate this camera? not the extra things, but just the other things that is necessary. would it be an additional $3K - $5K? Thanks
You don't need iso roll, because you should not be using iso to expose. Set iso to 800/1600/12800 and use ND to expose.
Also other than gimbal, the top handle is basically always there for audio, and this camera is intended with the use of external recordist (hence Timecode in/out).
Seems you just are not the target case fot this.
Damn. I’m getting mine tomorrow. Same boat. Shooting now with the A7SIII and was contemplating canceling my preorder for the same reasons. For certain workflow if you own an A7SIII this camera could be a downgrade and slow down despite the upside. What kills me is no form of stabilization because the catalyze browse workflow is a no go for me, especially when with over 100 clips..
I guess there is only one way to find out for me..
Hi Max, I've been watching your videos for a few years now, and one thing that makes me question your camera reviews is the lack of context. Without seeing examples of your paid work (not just daytime exterior slow-motion shots) it is difficult to really understand why you like some products and not others. You frequently point out that "if you use this product to feed your family...," so why would you review a cinema camera to do corporate work and then give them a negative review by saying the cinema camera is not a good financial choice....., Do you make short films or shoot movies? If so would you recommend a a7s iii ?? Then again if you didn't review every camera out there regardless of its intended use you would have fewer videos and less drama? We all know drama is good for yt channels!
I also checked the links in the About Page of your channel and they are all dead. Does this mean that youtube is your primary source of income?
I love Sony, but I'm truly disappointed with the lackluster release of the FX6.
The whole world has gotten the FX6 and yet not even my local camera business (Which as a franchise is very popular in the Midwest) had received any. B&H and Adorama have gotten a trickling amount of FX6s.
I'm eager to see the FX6 soon but I guess I'll be using the A7S III I received on day 1.
In your opinion which camera would be a second camera to upgrade to from coming from a Sony camcorder handheld what do you think
@@ThatBMA unless you have $5000 to sink into, your iPhone.
Yes, it looks like Sony is not shipping any FX6 cameras. One of the largest retailer on the East coast received only two units. I’m expecting my camera in the next shipment as per my camera store. But that may be as far away as February.
So why the delay? There was a fire at the AKM factory that makes some components for Sony. Initially, we believed that the FX6 was unaffected by this, but I have it on good authority that this was not the case. So we might be looking at considerable back-order delays.
I plan on doing a detailed comparison with the Canon C70 once my FX6 gets in. Feel free to sub to my channel if you are interested to be notified when the video goes live.
Here’s a link to the story about the fire that caused this fiasco:
www.strata-gee.com/akm-fire-2020-was-almost-over-then-disaster-struck-again/
@@angryrabbitproductions1690 it makes no sense that the fire had any correlation to why the US is the country that got the short end of the stick.
It’s more than the VD it’s about the heat sink. You can use catalyst browse for stabilization.
In terms of the XLR the fs5 users complained about XLR on the body so that’s why it’s in the handle.
You can press the iso gain button and change it from the wheel on the handle.
I suggest going in the XdCam user website to find out more. If someone can step down from an FX9 to this then it can’t be that bad. Overall good review.
I agree with Max - if you’re good with the A7s III then you likely done need the FX-6 variable ND, separate audio inputs with 4-channels of audio, battery options that can provide p-tap to monitors/recorders, SDI output (simultaneously with HDMI) and timecode in/out. But if you need those things, then the FX6 is a beast for $7k.
And how did I forget that the two independent xlr audio inputs accept mic or level input with the ability to supply phantom power. Which you could add to the A7sIII with the XLR-K3M for $600
I wish one you filmmakers actually make a film. You guys debate in bitch about this & that about camera gear in no one is uploading any films. You, Potato Jet, The Northrups, Theoria Apophasis, Camera Conspiracies guy with the brown teeth... absolutely no footage with these awesome cameras. I dont get it.
They are youtuber. Tech reviewer. Entertainer. In fact you know all of them means you have watched their videos. That says something.
I’ll agree with everything you said, save for the useless feature list. AF, IBIS (done right), Full Frame... useless?
@@ploufbadaboum2221 quoting pretty popular video these days - "you're just a youtuber"...
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Potato Jet does use his cinema cameras professionally, There are some cameras like A7S III that he only uses for UA-cam. Max is an event videographer. The Northrups are photographers and Camera Conspiracies is comedy. Not everyone makes movies with these cameras.
Sony should 100% offer a $500 upgrade option to Sony A7S iii to get S-Cinetone
I’d happily pay
Thank god it’s free now
Nice video and nice review I’m trying to purchase the Sony a 73 what do you think about the camera because I have one camera it’s a Sony camcorder handheld but I’m trying to upgrade my gear from a channel and I was looking into another Sony camera so I’m trying to decide between the Sony a 73 and the Sony a 7C🙏🏽
a73 is a beast, got it myself and having it since 2 years without any issues so far. It's one of the best hybrid cameras and nowadays cheap. Sure, A7S3 is a better film camera but the A73 takes the better picutres, it's a much better allrounder and it's not like video mode would be bad :-P It's no coincidence that it kind of turned into a youtuber / content creator "industry standard" just like rode microphones. But anyway it's much more about the lenses and what you can do with it rather than the body. Daniel Schiffer / Peter Lindgren have a lot of cool videos shot on a73 if you wanna take a look. and regarding 7c there are tons of good reviews on youtube. Personally even again I would go a73, form factor is much better since the body is already tiny
I was the second person in the world to have the FE T/3.1 lens and it is not heavy at all. Actually provider more girth to any camera body you put it on!
Please make video about Canon R6 - overheats it or not in real situations while shoot video
Does anyone knows where I can buy this camera. This thing seem to be out of stock everywhere in the US and around the world. smh
Hi Max - thanks for the thorough review. Will you be doing one for the Canon c70? I recently got that camera and love it and would love to hear your thoughts. (I debated getting the FX6 since I wasn’t in either lens s system, but the C70 had a few advantages like mini xlrs on the camera, a more innovative form factor, DGO sensor and a future-proof RF mounts. It’s been a treat to use so far).
If c70 got IBIS like the R5/R6 it would be a gem, pity Canon did not put it in c70 with smaller sensor.
reat review Max Yuryev Maybe the best channel for video / camera info. Max is not afraid to not be in lock step, gives reviews from user perspective.
Max, have you given a thought of using the canon C70? You may like it better. You never know.
You mentioned that the camera has a 6k sensor and downsamples to 4K when you were looking at the low light performance. That’s the FX9 not the FX6. The FX6 is a 4K sensor.
I don't think I did unless unless was an editing mistake and something was cut out that wasn't supposed to. Some Sony camera I have have 6K Sensors like the A7iii and a6400, and of course the FX9 which I don't have.
@@MaksimYuryev You are stuttering.
@@ShadowsofSmoke lmfao
Thanks for the video Max, I totally agree with your thoughts. I have the FX6 and still waiting on an a7S III. I've heard there are some upsides and trade-offs to both but for me I love the cine-type form factor and built in ND's are life changing, it's tough to go back. Here's hoping firmware can fix the audio and auto-focus, then I'll be extremely happy. Have a great New Year!
The AF issue looks like user error. To use AF you must be using a multiple of the base frame rate (for S&Q)... that is for 30p... 60, 90 120. For 25p... 50, 75, 100.
I have been told that the AKM plant fire is what caused the FX6 6-8 week shipping delays. Very few people have them and Sony is not shipping any today. (I understand that some grey market models hit the streets) Let's hope this global parts problem doesn't effect other Sony cameras too. I believe the Sony K3M mic adapter is also not shipping either to any retailers.
In case you were wondering, they're now shipping! Slowly.
@@rf340-s3p Yup....I was first in line at B&H...I got mine already. It's great!
I know this has nothing to do with this but as a hybrid shooter r5 or s1h?
I've owned the A7S3 for over half a year, and I think it's a video monster. But it's not as professional in many ways as the FX6. DCI4K, the best built-in ND filter, more professional buttons, etc.
To achieve DCI4 K on A7S3, I bought Ninjia V. However, the heavier body and more money didn't give me a satisfactory picture(low light situation). The built-in ND of the FX6 greatly increases the flexibility of dual native ISO. The manual setting of high or low ISO can avoid awkward positions like iso 10000 on A7S3... (This is really painful). Finally, though, the A7S3 is very powerful for shot video. But you can't deny it's still a DLSR body. So, the buttons aren't exactly suitable for video work (the new menu does some redeeming).
Thanks for sharing, looking forward to seeing your comparison video!
Stick a xlr-k3m on the A7sIII and you have nearly all of the FX6 features.
Idk, I have the A7S III and the XLR-K3M, and I’m keeping my preorder for the FX6. The ability to turn off noise reduction, turn off sharpening, amazing EVND tech ( game changing for outside shooting) and S-Cinetone make this a worthy addition. I think the FX6 will prove to be a major win. I plan on doing a comparison to the Canon C70 once Sony resumes shipments. If you’re curious to see this match up feel free to sub to my channel to be notified when the video goes live. So many great cameras out now... we live in special times.
I’ve got the FX6 . The VariND is a killer feature.
No you dont. Internal VND which dont give color shift compared to screw on ND filter is the main reason for getting FX6 over Siii. If you need to shoot fast in all kind of lighting environment you will truly appreciate it. Try screwing or inserting ND filter dozen of times in a day.
@@shem44 Even the Auto Vari ND is a killer feature for some applications...
I’m super pumped for this camera. I was number three on the list, and Sony only shipped two bodies out, so I’m still waiting. You’re lucky to have received one so early. What are your thoughts after having used it?
what about gyro stabilization?
I wonder if reelsteady would work with the gyro data in the Sony FX6
Good logical thinking and reasons. practicality is as important as quality.
the image from fx6 just looks much better to me in turm of image texture soft skin the log looks a little bit better and the skin color looks better i can say that its really close to the fx9 also the codec is much better in fx6 with a7s3/fx3 i have monster pc and its not that fun to edit a7s3 4K the fx6 reminds me more the fs7 and the a7s3 looks like good quality but more video hope to see the comperison soon even if this is the same sensor the image is not the same
Skintone does look better on the FX6. And the best on the FX9. A7Siii comes last on that important fact.
The great thing is that you can use the fx9 viewfinder with loupe out with no problem
Would love to see thebside by side comparison vs the a7siii. Thanks Max.
Why would the color science be different for FX6 and A7Siii?
That’s normal for a cinema camera and second development of a sensor.
@@TheTechnoPilot Yes, but why? Is this a physical limitation of the lower end camera, or is this some type of algorithm that's written for the higher end camera to differentiate it and provide added value? In other words is this a physical/software limitation?
@@NONE2NONE it can be both physical aspects of sensor development, it will usually be the algorithm that does the bayer pattern conversion of luminance levels from sensor to colour image saved to file. This can improve both by more development but also for artificial differentiation of the camera lines. Note that truthfully, while Cinetone pleasing, it’s actually a stylized look with Sony’s default r.709 being more tonally accurate, so they could argue that it’s not a replacement for normal profile. The point however being I suspect there is zero technical reason why the A7SIII couldn’t have Cinetone, or exactly match the FX9.
It’s hard to say, my gut tells me it’s mostly just firmware. However, the power draw from the FX6 is clearly greater than that of the A7S III. While one has a fan, this is likely required as the sensor is being pushed harder; perhaps utilizing features that are not used in the mirrorless variant? One thing is certain, while they use similar technology, these cameras remain different in several important ways.
I've heard the FX6 footage is less digital and more robust when color grading. I'll wait for your review and see but the XLRs in the handle plus the limitation of shooting raw with the Ninja V, which is more combinient sidewise than the bulky shogun are making me going toward the combination of the A7S plus the Pocket 6k.
The "two teams" worked together on this camera, that is why this thin is an α. That is why it is so frustrating they went with the "cine" menu design and not with the α. Nonetheless, my preorder is in :)
Please compare the fx6 colours with a7s iii
You rock Max! Have a great New Year! :-)
Thanks for putting this video together!
Could you please give us details on which lens was used for what shot?
HEY max,
could it be that your copy just had autofocus issues?
i saw tests where the autofocus had no issues compared to the a7siii
I saw tests where the FX6 was less reliable and it has no real time tracking AF which is huge.
@@JonPais damn.. def could be a deal breaker
@@TimandLauren Focus pulling is more cinematic but not everyone is making a Hollywood movie. ☺️
Yeah he definitely got the bad copy..other tests prove otherwise
@@adzamree6870 wrong buckwheat. a7s III has real time tracking AF that can be initiated simply by touching LCD. FX6 does not. smh
Hey Max. Your IG and Facebook links arent complete. They go to other peoples accounts.
No XLR on body is dealbreaker for me
I've been using the Sony PXW Z90V for 3 years.
Unlimited 120 fps recording. Superb machine.
I have the Z90 as well. 2lbs lighter, 28-300 lens, 8 speed power zoom, built in IBIS and 4 step ND (non auto). Excellent erognomics and 4:2:2 10 bit in 1080p. Hard to abandon all that for the heavier FX6.
@@brianhammerstein I had the z90 but it had a videoish look not suitable at all for cinematic shooting. I got rid of it and I don't regret it. It is not the type of image that my clients are looking for these days.
@@TelevisionCrews I hear what you are saying. I just starting using an A7SIII in Cinetone mode with a 24 105. Much nicer image than the Z90. I would prefer the variable ND of the FX6.
@@TelevisionCrews "videoish look"? haha, if you want a film look, shoot film. No digital camera is going to look 100% like film.
@@matthewphillips5483 main issue with the z90 is the freaking noise ... terrible low lights performances
I love both! FX6 and Alpha7s iii!
Mxf wrapper is better for editing than have H264
H264 is a codec though not a container ?
Servo zoom on a 16-35 zoom range? That's silly.
Was waiting for this video.
I can really se much differance bethween the Fx6 / a7s III, over the SONY a7 s II ( 2 ) !
My question is why do you order every camera that comes to market?
Why do you not? Peasant
Haha no, far from it.
Max, I gotta say I was surprised by your review. But then again from watching this video I didn't feel this was all that great of a camera. Am I wrong?
Getting camera advice from a tech UA-camr is like getting a health diagnosis from a car mechanic.
@@juliobrogan4512 Yeah good point.
Who do you recommend for camera reviews?
@@WarriorsPhoto Phillip Bloom
@@juliobrogan4512 He’s good and I know a good mate of His here locally.
Anyone else?
@@WarriorsPhoto Matti haapoja is actually talented with cameras and is generally spot on with his reviews.
wearing bike helmets while climbing trees seems unsafe
How does the M1 get on with the FX6 codec @ high bitrate?
fx6 or ursa mini g2?
FX6 if you are a more serious shooter. URSA MINI G2 has too many problems at present.
Ursa G2 Quality Control = not even once
FX6 forgot to design a 3.5mm audio input port. Remove the handle and install the stabilizer, it will not be able to record, hahahaha.
Well done like usual. Good info. It's so strange how they make the AF hard to operate through the touch screen. Their smaller ENG cameras suffer from the same problem- the nx80 is one of them
This is so weird. Consumers have made it so DSLR style still photography cameras are now rated higher than cinema cameras for actual entry level professional cinema production. Since consumers stopped buying fancy video cameras for home use, they forced the camera manufacturers to put all their time and resources into making better DSLR cameras. The situation has created a weird void, where camcorders have worse picture quality and lower technology than DSLR cameras. The next big boom will be FX6 style cinema cameras, priced within reach of a home enthusiast and podcaster. I will buy one as soon as it has proper auto focus. Come on Nikon!
The ND filter is a huge buying factor
Great review per usual!
Интересно будет увидеть твой тест обзор на fx3
The name of this channel should be "Why I hate ALL cameras, and you should too."
He ditched the camera because of bad autofocus.. lol🤣🤣🤣
True. That tells what kind of shooter he is.
@@TelevisionCrews Yeah what's next? Hel'll ditch an Alexa LF because of bad auto focus?
@@sa.t.2507 Probably more likely due to terrible battery life.
max got movie babies! lol fucking S-cinetone *A7SIII VOICE*
It could have been the perfect cam - but they left out the object tracking feature (on purpose?) - so the touch feature is kind of useless - what a pity! Sony fix it!!!
Just about AF . You have to be on an exact frame rate of your base. So if you’re shooting 25p you get AF at 50, 75 and 100 FPS. If you’re shooting 30p af works at at 60,90 and 120fps.
Good point. I think Philip Bloom mentioned that in his review also. I figured it was user error as no one else reported this issue.
Spelling correction - Cancelled has 2 L's
Not in USA. Two Ls is UK etc.
@@bartwaggoner2000 OK Thanks
What is Ls?
Kind of don't mention what you're requirements are? If it's just shooting YT review videos and the kids (and there's nothing wrong with that!) then the DSLR probably is better
Is the extra weight a deciding factor for you? You look pretty fit to me, come on man!
Had no idea you had a separate channel.
Lol. Was getting tired of apple reviews. 👍🏻
Might as well go with Red Komodo at that price. Agree on another a7s III. Wish Sigma would make an MC-11 adapter with a variable ND!!!! Please Max use your industry position to help make that happen! 😀
It's a $4,000 dollar difference in price, which is huge buddy.
@@JonPais, thanks for input.. what is $4k price difference?
@@mikeyfl Komodo costs more than either FX6 or a7s III.
@@JonPais, Komodo starting at $5995 isn't more than FX6 which was camera referenced.. depending on what equipment already have that's the most reasonable industry standard cinema camera to date!
@@mikeyfl My bad! In that case, I’d go with C70. Not sure how Komodo is any more reasonable ‘indusi standard cinema camera’. That’s a bunch of BS.
I'd buy this camera for commercial work, but for narrative and docs, never. Sony mid range cameras' color science and motion cadence is too videoish.
All digital cameras are "videoish". Shoot Kodak film is you want a movie.
Ya going to pay 8 grand for a camera it better not fail in focus at all. I don't blame you dude. Who wants a Rolls Royce with a skip in the engine anyway.
You've convinced me out of purchasing it. Glad I found this video.
So what camera you looking into
You look like Gerald Undone
I love this channel, but strongly doubt in squarespace's political neutrality.
EVA1 best
Sounds like a nightmare
Max, you're looking very trim these days. Have you lost some weight?
love u say "cyyyamera" instead of camera ... its...kyammmra
this guy use autofocus on shots that you shouldn't rely on autofocus lol.
Unfortunetly there auto focus is relied on too much these days.
“Kyamra”
What a negative clickbait title for an honest review!!!
2nd
hey arent you supposed to talk about apple product?
Oh yeah. Do you love me? 😍💋 💝💖❤️
What a rudimentary review ! FX6 is a cinema camera and you are talking as if this is a mirrorless DSLR. The VND it has itself is worth the entire camera. You would know of you are shooting in filmic scenarios.
"Real" productions use matte box sized IRNDs. No need to clown him when you arent a pro either.
@@matthewphillips5483 buddy I am not clowning him, he is great and I love his videos. What I was commenting on was the review of FX6, its not a an ordinary camera. Just wait and watch as the tech improves it will cater to increased IR susceptibility too, the Electronic VND does a great job, may not be at its best yet !