As the saying goes: “The Hero would sacrifice You to save the World. The Villain would sacrifice the World to save You....” Such a line fits this scene all too well
I'll only do this for the frenzied flame ending, this was her quest, it was her duty to sacrifice herself for us, but we inherited chaos, and casted everything she was destined to do to the side
@@frebb9270 I think I'm playing a game that already gives us the ability to do the exact scenario I described...its just missing an actual unique ending cinematic for it like the others have.
@@pizzashark785 can't you just use miquellas needle after burning the erdtree yourself, therefore melina is still alive and you no longer inherit the frenzied flame?
Yeah but you also need the needle from Malenias questline! Not saying it's impossible or too much but pretty sure in order to reverse the frenzied flame you have to use the needle and if memory serves correctly it's the needle you can use in Malenias Aeonia/Scarlet Rot Bloom to gain a Ancient stone (can't remember if it's somber or regular though!)
@@SSNebula after helping millicent in her quest, you get the golden needle and kill malenia, and in the bloom you give the needle and get back ancient dragon somber stone and Miquella 's needle. We use that needle in Placidusax Arena to surpress the frenzied flame.
"Such is my duty, for allowing you the strength of runes." This means, if we didn't level up at all, and we get this frenzied flame, there is no reason Melina will hate us right? I think we need to try this scenario.
@@jibbily27 there’s a video showing that even if u have killed 4 shardbearer bosses and activated their runes, u still cannot proceed into the capital.
Did this during my first ever completion. Friends regarded me as a hero for saving Melina, and pulling off the golden order ending in one go. Meanwhile I'm scratching my head and thinking "melina dies?!!"
this is insane i had no idea u could do this i found the chaos flame after following grape lady to a spooky ground hole after the tree burned. got the lord of chaos ending still
Damn i went for the ultimate "im gonna save you melina, you dont have to die" mission, just to complete my task and cure myself from frenzied flame after hours to get NOTHING. No dialog, no cutscene, nothing. Disappointed on this one Fromsoft! Great game but this was a letdown.
I love how almost every comment is asking if you can save her/get anything by doing this, then using the needle so she doesn’t die. And they’re all answered. But people just keep asking lmao.
She's the one who wanted to burn the golden tree, and if she dies because of it, she'll just be happy, and you shouldn't usher in a time of madness when all life is burned to death
I think she wants to be the kindling. She was talking about finding her purpose. If we use our tarnished as kindling, it takes away her purpose. And she doesn't like that.
You might not be insane but you are a vessel of the 3 fingers regardless. So long as you exists, so exists the possibility that you will heed the call of the 3 fingers or at least lead to a world were it’s followers have dominion.
Idk if anyone else has found this but I went to the crumbling datum azula through a portal at the four belfries and killed malekith and after I killed him there was a cut scene and the tree was burning I haven’t defeated the final boss yet but Gideon the all knowing betrayed me and I’m currently fighting him and I also went to check if Melina it’s still alive and she is at the forge of the giants still so she’s ALIVE idk if I’m the only one but it’s so interesting
@@maxouking1999 yeah but there’s another step you most do which is teleporting to the perfumers Cave then quit the game and just get back on the game and you should appear in the city
Hahaha what? Detail and depth? This game has pretty cryptic undetailed story with garbage delivery. Its just action game with some story serving as background.
Apparently there is a way to purge out the frenzied flame and unlock the other endings. You do this by using Miquella's needle in the Faram Azula boss arena after doing Millicent's quest line. I wonder, can you inherit the frenzied flame, burn the tree, _then_ get rid of the flame to unlock the other endings? In this case, Melina would be alive _and_ won't hate you because you are no longer a lord of chaos.
I think you can but Melina won't return to you and she/the game never acknowledges that you went through all that trouble to save her/shed the the Frenzied Flame. Which is a real shame imo.
Can you then use the Unalloyed Gold needle to remove the will of the Three Fingers and then swap to another ending thus preserving Melina and attaining a good ending. That would be a sacrifice worth making. Edit: I see ppl have answered this yes you can. No Melina does not return for any further dialogue. You only see her again if uou fully commit to the frenzied flame. I think I still like this path narratively though. You were prompted with a way to save her and you took it even if she had to hate you for it for some time.
I messed this up for myself so badly. I thought i would become frenzied by the fire and would give me an option to kindle myself so when i saw her she start the cutscene i quit the game and got the frenzied flame the right way and came back and i still couldn't offer myself. So now i got the flame and ass at the same time
are you able to burn the tree your self, cure your self, and then fufill the requirements for Renna ending and see if its different since both Renna and Melina are alive?
you can use miquella's needle in boss placidusax arena. This will cancel the three finger ending. But Melina will still leave you and it won't change the other endings at all.
What happens if you save Melina, but afterwards you cure the frenzied flame with Malenia's needle (thus getting another ending and not the frenzied flame one)?
@@cheesecheese6459And that's even better. Why? Here is my imagination of the ending where you save her: 1) Save Melina 2) Use needle and go for Perfect Order ending 3) Tell her that her new purpose is to stay by your side so you don't go crazy and pull out the needle 4) You have maiden and good ending, easy :D
There is a way to do the absolute frenzy flame ending. You have to let melina burn and after the erdtree gets on fire, you have to accept the frenzy flame by 3 fingers
You can cheat the three fingers, and Shabiri, and their stupid God by taking the Frenzied flame and then fighting malenia. There will be an item called 'Miquella's Needle' left behind by her scarlet aeonia flower. Take it to Farum Azula, to a hidden location, where there is a fragmented arena. Once you arrive, you will have the prompt to lay down. Do so, and time will reverse, leaving you in Dragon Lord Placidusax's arena. Use Miquella's needle here, and you will have effectively neutralized the three fingers and it's stupid flame of frenzy inside of you. Congratulations, you cheated a disgusting outer God! Now to deal with the others!
Other players: "It's great that you can save Melina this way!" Me who did it because the cutscene is awesome and I want to do all the cool stuff, not have some ghost witch do it for me: "haha, yeah..."
I legitimately spent 15m reading to find a way to save Melina and burn the tree but not to make her hate me but it seem even with the needle . she just peace out .
As far as I know as of right now the only way to access Farum Azula is to burn the tree at the Giant's Forge. You can use Miquella's Needle to cure the Frenzied Flame, but you need to use it at the center of Farum Azula. Your idea is great, and it got me thinking: Is there a way to get to Farum Azula without using the Giant's Forge? This is my current strategy and I am still theory crafting. Is there a way to burn the roots of the Erdtree from underground? Can I skip the Forge of Giants? Let's go!
@@VideoGameBot It would be cool if the Nox Mirror helm played a role in defying the fingers given its description, but compared to the needle it really seems far to irrelevant to have been implemented?
So Is there a special ending if you burn the tree yourself and then cure your flame before finishing the game? Because she is still alive does she come back?
I just watched a video where a speedrunner skips into Farum Azula and when he returned to Lyndell the tree was already burning and the city was in ashes. So it seems you MUST burn the tree, but the big question I have is if there is a 3rd way to burn the tree that doesn't require the Giant's Forge? I spent all day yesterday searching the Deeproot Depths and couldn't find anything down there... I found out how to do this in NG+ by acquiring the Frenzied Flame and then going straight to the Giant's Forge. I planned my NG+ around it.
So if you take the frenzy flame and cure it with the needle quest, will melina sacrifice herself when you got to the giant forge? Or you have to do the needle quest after the giant forge ? I wanna save melina even if she hates me lol
If you take the frenzied flame you can't cure it with the needle until after you burn the tree. Reason being is the only location that will let u "use" the needle to cure the flames is in the zone it teleports you too after u burn the tree. You can't cure the flames before that
@@YoureWrongImRightGetOverIt oh so you take the frenzy flame, go to the forge and sacrifice yourself to save melina, and then cure it with the needle ?
in order to cure you from the frenzy flame u need to go to farum azula and fight placidussax... and for that u need to first burn the tree, so there is no way to stop her from hating us
>Go to the Capital >Deafeat boss there >Find out you cannot proceed >You will get Item for Lift of Rold >Now you can Acess Snowy Area You're Welcome xD
Hey I figured it out, you have to beat that Morgot look alike boss you find in the sewers after taking the lift down and then hit his alter and reveal the secret passage
Way ahead of you! Here is a link on what to do AFTER the boss fight: ua-cam.com/video/9ej9UTEQ04g/v-deo.html And here is another link on how to get to the bosses chamber: ua-cam.com/video/2HiJKcyiBdw/v-deo.html Good luck :)
@@adrianakuzmikova1697 i think you've answered you're own question. Besides with this I think it's possible to do a challenge run where you don't need Melina help and you can burn the tree by yourself
I feel like in this ending, you basically by the strength of your own will betrayed everyone in order to save them. They don't understand and hate you for it. But in the end you will save them all.
@@bartekpas545 chaos is the world. The greater will stole its power and made a world that wasn't meant to exist so it could rule over it. And rannis ending is ok. I like her. But the flame of chaos is the best ending because you're restoring the balance of the cosmos
So the logic behind is to absorb the Frenzied Flame, then burn the Erdtree to save Melina from a cruel fate which she hates for it as a consequence of going against her wishes. Miquella's needle wont revert her hostile (angry) state, then will the absolution at the Church of Vows do the trick?
Technically you could use miquela’s needle and then still be the good guy afterwords, you save Melina and choose a good ending, she might be salty af cause it was her purpose to sacrifice herself but you chose this
Meh. Her and Ranni are really the only people who genuinely seem to care for my character. If she ends up hating me, I don't really give a shit. If there's a way to stop her from dying without burning the world down in frenzied flame, then I'm going to do it. I'm the chosen tarnished. My will is law.
This is going to be a stupid question but can you still do this after she already burned herself? I was so mad than I’d ever been at this game when the cutscene started playing out
Just use the moonveil katana level 9 and mimic tear level 9+ and godskin duo will be alot Easier. I honestly found them the most challenging in the game tbh
I have Miquella's needle, but honestly I think I'll let her sacrifice herself. She doesn't have a body, will she just wander for eternity? At least she'd leave doing what she thinks is right
Lol neither did I have the option to talk to Melina before getting burned by the frenzied fingers nor do I have now the option to listen to the crackling fire what the hell.
No idea where to go now pretty sure I have killed every boss in the game and touched the 3 fingers not knowing what I was doing. Not seeing the go to new game option at the Grace points.
What happens if you cure the freinzied flame thing with the needle and talk to Melina about burning the tree ? Same cutscene as if the 3 finger thing never happened ?
i accidentally interacted here and inherited the frenzy flame unknowingly so i turned it off and my character isn’t burned, then i had the option to ‘listen to the flame’ and like the default cutscene i wasn’t teleported to the ashen capital because i interacted, the tree’s aflame but didn’t fall in the pit, so how can i undo the frenzy?
As the saying goes:
“The Hero would sacrifice You to save the World. The Villain would sacrifice the World to save You....”
Such a line fits this scene all too well
What about: sacrifice the girl, then sacrifice the world.
Me who sacrificed both
stole the top comment word for word.
i'm totally a villain then.
Some Men just wanna see the World burn
Gods, there has to be an ending where we can save her without having her hate us for it... 😥😥
Use miquellas needle, follow millicents quest, needle stops frenzied flames ending
@@darthnightstrike1808 damn it , I screwed up then , if only I understood what Melina ment by burning erdtree
@@nobody4y in what way, she died?
@@darthnightstrike1808 yup , turned her into charcoal
@@nobody4y ooooohhhh... well hey, there are 3 total endings, excluding variations, 2 more runs to fix this, although she will hate you...
I'll only do this for the frenzied flame ending, this was her quest, it was her duty to sacrifice herself for us, but we inherited chaos, and casted everything she was destined to do to the side
You are the Chosen Tarnished. Your destiny trumps all
And now she will hunt you until she delivers what is yours
Destined death
I dont give a shit,i want her to live,then she is going to live =)
@@skell6134 nice
Yeah, I’m only doing this so I can get all the unlocks for Elden Ring.
We need a unique ending for saving her and still not becoming the lord of frenzied flame.
What do yout think you are playing kingdom hearts?
@@frebb9270 I think I'm playing a game that already gives us the ability to do the exact scenario I described...its just missing an actual unique ending cinematic for it like the others have.
you can't. getting the burn locks you out of all other endings
@@pizzashark785 can't you just use miquellas needle after burning the erdtree yourself, therefore melina is still alive and you no longer inherit the frenzied flame?
@@pizzashark785 you can USe Miquellas Needle after killing Placidussax, and no longer inherit the frenzied flame :)
Fighting the secret boss after the tree burning won’t stop her from hating you, but it does stop the ending
What secret boss?
@@juanno1437 Dragonlord Placidusax
Yeah but you also need the needle from Malenias questline! Not saying it's impossible or too much but pretty sure in order to reverse the frenzied flame you have to use the needle and if memory serves correctly it's the needle you can use in Malenias Aeonia/Scarlet Rot Bloom to gain a Ancient stone (can't remember if it's somber or regular though!)
@@SSNebula after helping millicent in her quest, you get the golden needle and kill malenia, and in the bloom you give the needle and get back ancient dragon somber stone and Miquella 's needle. We use that needle in Placidusax Arena to surpress the frenzied flame.
"Such is my duty, for allowing you the strength of runes."
This means, if we didn't level up at all, and we get this frenzied flame, there is no reason Melina will hate us right?
I think we need to try this scenario.
Can't get into inner capital without her sadly. Game says not enough great runes.
@@sammydecafthethird great runes are different, that means you haven't killed enough shardbearer bosses
@@jibbily27 there’s a video showing that even if u have killed 4 shardbearer bosses and activated their runes, u still cannot proceed into the capital.
@@djlorius I see, I guess the wording is just wrong then
@@jibbily27 You need to visit the roundhold table in order to get in the capital, it will say you need more even if you have two
Did this during my first ever completion. Friends regarded me as a hero for saving Melina, and pulling off the golden order ending in one go. Meanwhile I'm scratching my head and thinking "melina dies?!!"
this is insane i had no idea u could do this i found the chaos flame after following grape lady to a spooky ground hole after the tree burned. got the lord of chaos ending still
I was so excited when I found this :D
The Frenzied Flame ending was nuts
who is grape lady..?
@@elissalesse8320 Her name's Hyetta, you can find her following Irina's questline
I had no idea you could burn the tree wo melina's help. thanks for the video
But you pretty much betray her and get a different ending too
@@xaviergonzalez1963 not if you use Malena needle to tame the frenzy flame
If you follow Yuras questline ( I didn't, but the end result seems to be the same), he tells you to find the flame and burn the tree
@@stinso6490 it's not yura is shabriri who take his corpse
@@icarobarbosa4938 does melina react to to us cleansing ourselves?
Damn i went for the ultimate "im gonna save you melina, you dont have to die" mission, just to complete my task and cure myself from frenzied flame after hours to get NOTHING. No dialog, no cutscene, nothing. Disappointed on this one Fromsoft! Great game but this was a letdown.
Yeah there should be a different ending if you do this, but since there isn't I just go for the frenzy flame ending.
Kinda selfish to “save her” even tho she wanted to offer herself from the get go
i think this was an oversight by them lol
@@franckize she shouldnt have been nice to the lowly tarnished.
You expect her to forgive you just because you put a needle to yourself after you betrayed her will?
If only the Erdtree did not BLOCK the DAMN ENTRANCE...
I was fully expecting an entirely new map to be unlocked when he fell in the forge
She may hate me for it, but I refuse to give my maiden up for some petty cause when I can do it myself.
Or she dies anyway just like other NPCs, this is the fate of every NPC in the game it seems.
@@Alen725 Not every NPC, a few of them have an happy ending. But it is a really small number unfortunately.
I love how almost every comment is asking if you can save her/get anything by doing this, then using the needle so she doesn’t die. And they’re all answered. But people just keep asking lmao.
lol
She's the one who wanted to burn the golden tree, and if she dies because of it, she'll just be happy, and you shouldn't usher in a time of madness when all life is burned to death
I hope they release some sort of DLC where we could get a way to save Melina without her hating us
I think she wants to be the kindling. She was talking about finding her purpose. If we use our tarnished as kindling, it takes away her purpose. And she doesn't like that.
Burning Melina is just sending her to where she came from
@@ixiahj Which is also selfish (us removing her purpose). Therefore I propose... Sacrifice her and then become lord of Chaos.
Would she talk with you again if you use Gold Needle after you buring tree?
Unfortunately she will not 🙂
Either Yandere or Nah
Nah but if you remove the frenzied flame after burning yourself at least you saved her
You might not be insane but you are a vessel of the 3 fingers regardless. So long as you exists, so exists the possibility that you will heed the call of the 3 fingers or at least lead to a world were it’s followers have dominion.
So no reward for saving her?
Idk if anyone else has found this but I went to the crumbling datum azula through a portal at the four belfries and killed malekith and after I killed him there was a cut scene and the tree was burning I haven’t defeated the final boss yet but Gideon the all knowing betrayed me and I’m currently fighting him and I also went to check if Melina it’s still alive and she is at the forge of the giants still so she’s ALIVE idk if I’m the only one but it’s so interesting
Wait, so the portal from the four belfries can lead you into the city ? I always thought it was a useless portal
@@maxouking1999 yeah but there’s another step you most do which is teleporting to the perfumers Cave then quit the game and just get back on the game and you should appear in the city
@@maxouking1999 its a wrong warp, you actually skipped some game flags there so the game thinks you already burned her.
i love how i now know how to burn the erd tree, very informative on how to get there 😃
....there is just so much depth indeed detail in this game there's no end to it
Hahaha what? Detail and depth? This game has pretty cryptic undetailed story with garbage delivery. Its just action game with some story serving as background.
Apparently there is a way to purge out the frenzied flame and unlock the other endings. You do this by using Miquella's needle in the Faram Azula boss arena after doing Millicent's quest line.
I wonder, can you inherit the frenzied flame, burn the tree, _then_ get rid of the flame to unlock the other endings? In this case, Melina would be alive _and_ won't hate you because you are no longer a lord of chaos.
I think you can but Melina won't return to you and she/the game never acknowledges that you went through all that trouble to save her/shed the the Frenzied Flame.
Which is a real shame imo.
Can you then use the Unalloyed Gold needle to remove the will of the Three Fingers and then swap to another ending thus preserving Melina and attaining a good ending. That would be a sacrifice worth making.
Edit: I see ppl have answered this yes you can. No Melina does not return for any further dialogue. You only see her again if uou fully commit to the frenzied flame. I think I still like this path narratively though. You were prompted with a way to save her and you took it even if she had to hate you for it for some time.
Sadly, you are 100% correct D: I wish there was a way to save her without her hating you for it
Yeah thank kind of sucks
Because I expected a new ending from it
Yes you can
What happens if you let Melina die and then get the lord of Chaos ending? Will Melina still show up?
@@welshycarrot936 No. You will get the Lord of the Frenzied Flame secret ending, but you will not get the secret Melina cutscene
I messed this up for myself so badly. I thought i would become frenzied by the fire and would give me an option to kindle myself so when i saw her she start the cutscene i quit the game and got the frenzied flame the right way and came back and i still couldn't offer myself. So now i got the flame and ass at the same time
Scrolling up from the bottom. I see, you top, are a man of culture.
You need to add the part where you cure yourself from the curse inquired upon the three fingers blessing with Melanias needle
LMAO i literally just finished this quest right after Melina sacrificed her self 😂😂😂😂 ffffdfsssss the timing lmoa i had no idea , i guess NG+ it is
Does choosing not to enter the frenzy flame chamber lock you out of anything besides the cutscene where the fingers grab you? (And frenzy ending)
There's a talisman for incantations and an ending.
are you able to burn the tree your self, cure your self, and then fufill the requirements for Renna ending and see if its different since both Renna and Melina are alive?
You can cure yourself but the endings stay the same
you can use miquella's needle in boss placidusax arena. This will cancel the three finger ending. But Melina will still leave you and it won't change the other endings at all.
@@mateusjpg Wait, so I can still get the Renni ending? Will she still stay alive?
@@wavy9434 yes ua-cam.com/video/dcSvBtiDDo0/v-deo.html
@@wavy9434 ua-cam.com/video/M4Bbcz3L7U8/v-deo.html
What happens if you save Melina, but afterwards you cure the frenzied flame with Malenia's needle (thus getting another ending and not the frenzied flame one)?
You can become elden lord but there’s no special cutscenes where she returns. Honestly they should’ve made an ending for that but they didn’t.
It’s just sealed not cured
@@cheesecheese6459And that's even better. Why? Here is my imagination of the ending where you save her:
1) Save Melina
2) Use needle and go for Perfect Order ending
3) Tell her that her new purpose is to stay by your side so you don't go crazy and pull out the needle
4) You have maiden and good ending, easy :D
Ok this time I will sacrifice my self and save you melina
I finished this game thrice with three different alternative ending including this one but I didn't know that we could do that.
There is a way to do the absolute frenzy flame ending. You have to let melina burn and after the erdtree gets on fire, you have to accept the frenzy flame by 3 fingers
You can cheat the three fingers, and Shabiri, and their stupid God by taking the Frenzied flame and then fighting malenia. There will be an item called 'Miquella's Needle' left behind by her scarlet aeonia flower. Take it to Farum Azula, to a hidden location, where there is a fragmented arena. Once you arrive, you will have the prompt to lay down. Do so, and time will reverse, leaving you in Dragon Lord Placidusax's arena. Use Miquella's needle here, and you will have effectively neutralized the three fingers and it's stupid flame of frenzy inside of you. Congratulations, you cheated a disgusting outer God! Now to deal with the others!
“No sacrifice, no victory,”
-Sam witwicky”
Other players: "It's great that you can save Melina this way!"
Me who did it because the cutscene is awesome and I want to do all the cool stuff, not have some ghost witch do it for me: "haha, yeah..."
We both think alike. Couldn't care less about Melina tbh... I just wanted the chaos and cool stuff. Ranni is pretty meh.
@@bimates2690 tarnished grindset
Awwww, that was sad when she says goodbye to you and Torrent :(
This is just like linking the first flame
Pursuing this ending as retribution for the merchants
I legitimately spent 15m reading to find a way to save Melina and burn the tree but not to make her hate me but it seem even with the needle . she just peace out .
I spent 10+ hours theory-crafting ingame trying to find a way to make her stop hating me. Even after exhausting all my ideas nothing worked out :(
@@VideoGameBot at least we know there is no way . so thank you for doing the heavy lifting :))
what if you use the needle to control the flame then talk melina ?
As far as I know as of right now the only way to access Farum Azula is to burn the tree at the Giant's Forge. You can use Miquella's Needle to cure the Frenzied Flame, but you need to use it at the center of Farum Azula.
Your idea is great, and it got me thinking: Is there a way to get to Farum Azula without using the Giant's Forge? This is my current strategy and I am still theory crafting.
Is there a way to burn the roots of the Erdtree from underground? Can I skip the Forge of Giants?
Let's go!
@@VideoGameBot some speedrun just warp to Farum Azula i am not sure
@@VideoGameBot in the last WR for Elden Ring he uses a save skip to get to Farum Azula.
@@VideoGameBot There is a way, explore the towers where you face the tutorial boss. one of those towers will teleport you to Farum Azula i think
@@VideoGameBot It would be cool if the Nox Mirror helm played a role in defying the fingers given its description, but compared to the needle it really seems far to irrelevant to have been implemented?
So Is there a special ending if you burn the tree yourself and then cure your flame before finishing the game? Because she is still alive does she come back?
There is a special ending if you burn the tree yourself and DONT cure yourself
Curing the flame will revert the special ending back to original one, or a different secret ending if you've met those reqs
She doesn't come back, no.
@@HenriqueErzinger that's unfortunate 😕
and if you get the frenzied, after burning melina?
I’m so fucking pissed I thought I could just open the door and walk away
It would be interesting if you did this, then cured yourself with miquella’s needle, then got to talk to her at the end
How can u talk to her at the end?
Awesome man, but is there a way to NOT burn the Tree at all and get to Farum Azula ?
how did you even found out about that ?
or is that the Frenzy Questline ?
I just watched a video where a speedrunner skips into Farum Azula and when he returned to Lyndell the tree was already burning and the city was in ashes.
So it seems you MUST burn the tree, but the big question I have is if there is a 3rd way to burn the tree that doesn't require the Giant's Forge? I spent all day yesterday searching the Deeproot Depths and couldn't find anything down there...
I found out how to do this in NG+ by acquiring the Frenzied Flame and then going straight to the Giant's Forge. I planned my NG+ around it.
@@VideoGameBot nice man! It would be great if we could save the Tree.
went to azula without questline and burned tree without cardinal sin and become elden lord:D
If you use miquellas needle after this. It would calm the frenzied flame, right? Changing the ending and Melina wouldn't have to kill you, right?
This scene is more epic than Milina's sacrifice
The things we do for love...
As long as baby girl is safe this is the path we must take
I wish you could tell Melina that you can cure the frenzied with Miquellas needle if you have it at that point so she won’t abandons you
I love how he looks like he is screaming but you hear nothing
So if you take the frenzy flame and cure it with the needle quest, will melina sacrifice herself when you got to the giant forge? Or you have to do the needle quest after the giant forge ? I wanna save melina even if she hates me lol
If you take the frenzied flame you can't cure it with the needle until after you burn the tree. Reason being is the only location that will let u "use" the needle to cure the flames is in the zone it teleports you too after u burn the tree. You can't cure the flames before that
@@YoureWrongImRightGetOverIt oh so you take the frenzy flame, go to the forge and sacrifice yourself to save melina, and then cure it with the needle ?
in order to cure you from the frenzy flame u need to go to farum azula and fight placidussax... and for that u need to first burn the tree, so there is no way to stop her from hating us
Be hated and maidenless but save Melania or your maiden sacrifices herself... That's one heck of a crossroad...
Also burn everything and everyone and unleash chaos upon the lands between
Cool but how in the hell do I get there?
I have the Same question XD
>Go to the Capital
>Deafeat boss there
>Find out you cannot proceed
>You will get Item for Lift of Rold
>Now you can Acess Snowy Area
You're Welcome xD
@@sirith9157 I think he meant the place where there's the 3 fingers, not the damn volcano.
Hey I figured it out, you have to beat that Morgot look alike boss you find in the sewers after taking the lift down and then hit his alter and reveal the secret passage
@@Nick-uv9ln and where is that
Yo can you make a video of how to unlock the boss to get through the throne door because I’m stuck
Way ahead of you!
Here is a link on what to do AFTER the boss fight:
ua-cam.com/video/9ej9UTEQ04g/v-deo.html
And here is another link on how to get to the bosses chamber:
ua-cam.com/video/2HiJKcyiBdw/v-deo.html
Good luck :)
@@VideoGameBot thank you
@@VideoGameBot naw I already burnt the tree down I just don’t see the boss
@@javontaiPov you have to beat the 2 bosses at farum azula.
this needs a sequel. We'll kill melina at the final quest and TBag her lifeless body then roll the credits
We just didn't want to sacrifice our companion...
Say less tnks my boi. Hella helpful
By the three fingers griping you, does it increase health or anything. And by becoming elden lord, does that give you any benefits.
How do you actually get to the underground place
This should help :)
ua-cam.com/video/2HiJKcyiBdw/v-deo.html
@@VideoGameBot what happens when you never accept melina's offer (no leveling, no horse) and you get to erdtree ?
@@adrianakuzmikova1697 i think you've answered you're own question. Besides with this I think it's possible to do a challenge run where you don't need Melina help and you can burn the tree by yourself
@@Kazzy234 I was hoping for some different ending or something when you refuse melina. otherwise her question is pointless...
man why i have to see tons of videos to know how da fuuuu i have to do at the ending.... damn this game is so exhausting!
I feel like in this ending, you basically by the strength of your own will betrayed everyone in order to save them. They don't understand and hate you for it. But in the end you will save them all.
For what cost? Allowing chaos to run the world? The best ending is Ranni’s ending, when you free all the souls closed in the Golden Tree.
@@bartekpas545 chaos is the world. The greater will stole its power and made a world that wasn't meant to exist so it could rule over it. And rannis ending is ok. I like her. But the flame of chaos is the best ending because you're restoring the balance of the cosmos
@@JohnDoe-ligma Nope, you gave the god of chaos power over this world. Doesn't seem balanced to me.
@@tyrannmisu considering It was his power that made the world I'd say it's pretty. Balanced
you save them... only to melt them down ?
yeah.. no thanks.
I let Melina sacrifice herself to burn the Erdtree and then I inherited the Frenzied Flame afterward >:)
My post will be completely random, but my actual name is Melina and came across this. Don’t sacrifice me! Haha
So the logic behind is to absorb the Frenzied Flame, then burn the Erdtree to save Melina from a cruel fate which she hates for it as a consequence of going against her wishes. Miquella's needle wont revert her hostile (angry) state, then will the absolution at the Church of Vows do the trick?
My first run through I had Melina burn the tree and then I became frenzy flame so do I win? I mean she’s dead right lol
I mean, she cant be mad if she dead 🤷🏻
Technically you could use miquela’s needle and then still be the good guy afterwords, you save Melina and choose a good ending, she might be salty af cause it was her purpose to sacrifice herself but you chose this
Meh. Her and Ranni are really the only people who genuinely seem to care for my character. If she ends up hating me, I don't really give a shit. If there's a way to stop her from dying without burning the world down in frenzied flame, then I'm going to do it. I'm the chosen tarnished. My will is law.
This is going to be a stupid question but can you still do this after she already burned herself? I was so mad than I’d ever been at this game when the cutscene started playing out
Ofc not. You can’t just revive her
You cant get any better ending to her questline than this.
Ok so for me she burned the tree. Before I got the flame from 3 fingers. I still can't get past the thorn wall. Idk how to get past it.
You have to finish farum azula site, then it will teleport you back to leyndell
I didn't try to do this because I thougt the game would end there damn it
So do you get reward for saving her? Or is that the last time you see her?
She hates you forever, but at least her life has been spared
@@VideoGameBot the truest of simps ending
I have been thinking, cant we just just burn the erftree with the frenzied flame then use the needle and then go with ranni’s ending?
Can I burn the erdtree before fighting the godskin duo? I mean burn it completely
Sadly, no. The only way to skip the Godskin Duo is by glitch-skipping them :(
Just use the moonveil katana level 9 and mimic tear level 9+ and godskin duo will be alot Easier. I honestly found them the most challenging in the game tbh
@@lilsasukevert3102 My intelligence is 9 only☹️
@@tahabassem2613 you can always respec at rennala
This is the bad ending right?
Why does our first maiden end either by burning or hating us,
But then theres ranni where you can marry her by being like a pet dog
Real question is how can I bring back my sorceress teacher selena 💀
What if you get the miquella's needle before the tree burning?
What will happen if you use Miquella's Needle after burn down the tree by our self. Nothing will change but you can choose other ending normally?
I have Miquella's needle, but honestly I think I'll let her sacrifice herself. She doesn't have a body, will she just wander for eternity? At least she'd leave doing what she thinks is right
How to get there would be some useful information
Here ya go. :)
ua-cam.com/video/2HiJKcyiBdw/v-deo.html
@@VideoGameBot I definitely appreciate it! It also would help to show the secret passage too. I stumbled upon that by chance
@@RandomRandy32 No problem. I have a link for that in the description :)
@@VideoGameBot thank you again! I will be Subscribing
@@RandomRandy32 you da man
Lol neither did I have the option to talk to Melina before getting burned by the frenzied fingers nor do I have now the option to listen to the crackling fire what the hell.
honestly I thought this was the only way you completed the frenzied flame ending... what was everyone else doing to finish it?
Even if Melina hates you atleast she's there to hate you......
After doing this how do we complete the storyline how do we burn the capital to ashes so we can kill Godfrey and radagan/sea beast?
The Chad option but only if you follow through and get the Frenzy Flame ending.
I always did this Wayyy after lmao 💀 this was an option? 😅😂
Can you use mikelas nitle after u burn the tree to get her back?
No idea where to go now pretty sure I have killed every boss in the game and touched the 3 fingers not knowing what I was doing. Not seeing the go to new game option at the Grace points.
What happens if you use Miquella's needle after burning the erdtree like this? Does Melina come back?
my stupid ass doing this dumb door after i beat Radagon, so not only melina burned her self, i doomed the world into frienzies
she seems pissed off in this route lol
She is :( But as of right now this is the only way I know of to save her from sacrificing herself
Bruh, she threatened us but she can't even kill the elden beast or even get to the capitol by herself. Lol
What happens if you cure the freinzied flame thing with the needle and talk to Melina about burning the tree ?
Same cutscene as if the 3 finger thing never happened ?
Sadly, you can't cure yourself with the needle until you make it to Farum Azula. Without glitches, this means you already burned the tree. :(
@@VideoGameBot actually you can get there through the four beliefs i believe
@@LivingEggs225 you can, but it just leads to a talisman, its a dead end.
i just did this without any guide, thought i was the first one to found this fr
That's dope! Congratz finding all this out on your own :D
As a new player in this series of games, I can’t understand the plots and just kill for fun and die.
i accidentally interacted here and inherited the frenzy flame unknowingly so i turned it off and my character isn’t burned, then i had the option to ‘listen to the flame’ and like the default cutscene i wasn’t teleported to the ashen capital because i interacted, the tree’s aflame but didn’t fall in the pit, so how can i undo the frenzy?
u need to do millicents questline.. and get the melinas needle, u need that to remove the curse of frenzied flame
@@FKDMRYT so can i still finish her quest after burning the erdree? i only got to the point where she came to gowry’s shack.
Holy shit hahaha did FromSoftware just tell us, the player, to stop simping? 🤣
That's hilarious
If anything this is the ultimate simp option since your doing it to save her
@@ShirouBrando Anything for Waifu
How did you get to the starting site of grace in the first place… sigh
I have some video links in the description that will help you get there :D!
dammit, should have looked for that earlier...