Formula 1 Intercooler and Wastegate in detail (Ferrari)
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- Опубліковано 30 лип 2017
- I got some F1 new Turbo era parts! Here i show an intercooler and wastegate from Ferrari engine that was used in Marrusia/Manor.
Dissasamble of intercooler. It have 16000 tubes in it!
These parts are used in 2014 season.
Edit: It is a: Mezzo's microtube coolant-air intercoolers mezzotech.com/performance-appl...
I am not an expert on these parts so if you know anything about this please comment so i can learn more! - Авто та транспорт
I think technically that type of intercooler is referred to as "very expensive"
Yeay but not crazy expensive, it use simple concept but a difficult process not to mention assembly of the tiny brass/copper tube(its look like it)
Its called microtube radiator
Micro-tube intercoolers. You can get a custom one made by a company called mezzo technologies. I think they may have made the ones for F1. They make them for Indycar and a few other series.
gentleman and a scholar. Appreciate the link, those things are awesome. Makes me think of those gigantic boiler systems for power generation.
How much would one of those cost?
Alex Mandzyuk a lot.
john jay wow thanks. Who knew an f1 part could be expensive
Alex Mandzyuk who'd assume it would be cheap lol?
Hi Peter. I believe me or not but I used to work for Marussia before it when tits up first time at the end of 2014. I have a little knowledge about some of the parts you have although I used to work in the aero side of things. For instance I believe that the waste gate is made from Ti and if you it looks like you've got an exhaust there too. Unbelievable that the collector between the wastegate and the turbo pipe was machined from billet Ti!
The charge cooler is cool hey, it was fed from a air to water cooler that was fed and positioned just behind the roll hoop on the 14 marussia car.
If you have any question, I can try and answer.
wow hopefully he tapped you on this...do these parts have any street usage potential? I have always been curious about the f1 parts on street stuff.
This whole comment is actually more interesting than the whole clip
Machined titanium billets with carbon fibre. That's like alien technology to me
why do very smart people make English impossible
Got a picture of that cooler?
Please show the rest of your parts! Very interesting to see ;)
and here we see a Mercedes engineer
Cristi Cristi where?
yes, show us your "parts"
Thank you for breaking down that F1 intercooler and giving us a rare peak inside! Love that carbon work; how it's finished inside!!! This stuff is practically beyond NASA/Aerospace!
Peter, thank you for taking the time to show these parts, very interesting. I did not know about the micro tube Mezzo style intercoolers.
I could watch it all day! Please do the rest of the parts! Thanks for uploading it, awesome!
That intercooler would be great on my Civic, because its 1.6 as well.
V-tec would kick in harder, yo.
Daniel Geraldo If you really owned a Civic you'd know it's written VTEC
:ppp
You got me:)
SingleTurboSupra
Blah blah..he got one..
Daniel Geraldo That inter cooler is worth about 5 Honda Civics.
Thank you so much for sharing this with us. It is so rare to see this kind of thing i absolutely love it.
Thank you for a terrific and informative video. As an F1 fan it's fascinating to see the inner workings of an engine up close. The design and engineering are absolutely beautiful as should be expected at this level and every piece looks like a work of art.
the inlet for the coolant will most likely be the connection closest to the outlet of the air side.
awesome to see this! thanks for the video
Wow, very cool seeing this level of engine tech! Thanks for sharing.
Thanks for sharing. It's cool to see this stuff up close.
The craftsmanship of that intercooler is amazing. It looks like it was assembled and then planed on the sides.
Loved the video, it's great to see the parts close up. Thanks
This was truly brilliant. Thank you man!
Amazing to see the inside of the microtube intercooler! Thanks for this!
awesome, be great to have an in depth look like this at the entire f1 car
Fantastic! You don't get to peak into an F1 engineered piece ever. I feel lucky to see this.
Stunning,.love seeing well engineered parts..
Awesome stuff man, really really cool. Glad that you are showing it, keep it going! :)
I’ve watched all your videos atleast 4-5 times. These f1 videos I’ve watched 7-8 times each, I’m fascinated! I love seeing you incorporate F1 gadgetry into the Lambo
@@jamesmccaul2945 That number is even HIGHER now…
All weed jokes aside.
I’ve literally memorized Peter’s videos from start to finish.
“This is the pump, 5 stage… it’s already finished.” Volvoghini Oil Pump video
The technology of modern F1 cars is amazing....great video
This is awsome im so happy his plan is to use the design and hardwork that went into these pieces and apply them to his own cars its rare to find Lamborghini owners who know anything about thier car
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR SHOWING THIS. its so hard to find detailed pictures of the wastegates that i thought back in 2014 the new engines maybe didnt have wastegates at all. then they implemented the screamer pipes and thought maybe wastegates were retrofitted.
I think the blow of energy is used to power the generator to charge the hybrid battery from a impeller problably. That energy is harvested with a secret solution.
Those parts are amazing. Great video.
More please! This is gold!
Wow , really fascinating to see the level of detail and engineering in these things.
The cost of running a formula 1 team makes a bit more sense now!
Amazing technology! Can't imagine the time and craftsmanship involved in the manufacturing process.
Really interesting to see how rough these parts are. Resin globs on the carbon fiber exterior and a really fast surface finish on the aluminum. Serial number on the aluminum looks like it might have been done by hand. F1 seems so polished and professional from the outside - it is interesting for me to see the imperfections and human elements.
They are true 'prototype' cars, very interesting video.
Patrick Jones since they only last one race i suppose they leave those looking like prototypes, but im sure the ones they keep in museums are completely polished to look like perfection.
i doubt youd see such crudeness in the larger teams like SF, Merc or RBR
Raw vacuum bag finish on the CF parts. Your normal carbon fiber hood or similar will have the finished outer surface made against the tool (mold for the part), and take the surface finish of the tool. A clear coat (or gel coat in fiberglass boats) is applied to the tool for an even better finish. On this the 'finished' surface is on the inside for smooth airflow, and the vacuum bag surface is the outside.
The carbon is rough, but those castings are wizardry. All the little CNC milled out chunks to save every possible gram are awesome.
Amazing to see inside, thanks.
Awsome! beautiful pieces
Wow that intercooler is a work of art it would have cost a fortune to make as there is so many CNC machined parts then custom carbon for the intake and exit ! Thanks for showing it it detail.
Galet häftigt och intressant för alla oss bilnördar. Mer såna här videos vill vi se!
Very interesting to see. Thanks for sharing with us.
Very cool parts, thanks for the video.
Great video, keep up the good work!
fantastic coverage thank you!
Very awesome collection. Not sure why people would give a thumbs down to any of this.
Those parts are Beautiful!
Wow awesome a channel for true car nerds, subscribed!
Looking forward to some binge watching your content
Cheers
This we call spending for knowledges. Good expensive knowledge sharing pal!!!
Very cool and interesting stuff!
As already mentioned, please do a video of your other F1 parts! That would be great to see. This was very interesting.
Also, if you do use any of the parts in one of your road cars, please please show it running with the hood up. Would love to see that!
Gee your a lucky man , that was great to get such detail on hard to see bits, and we are all lucky to watch, thank you , yes please do more and let us know a bit about the auction , how many bidders , prices and what else sold or past in.
This was great. Thank you!
Nice, thanks for showing us.
Riktigt riktigt intressant konstruktion på en intercooler. Trevligt att du lägger upp klipp på lite F1 grejer :)
Very interesting please post more videos like this!
Thanks for making these videos.
Tusen takk! Veldig kult og se. Delt
Great video bro, thanks!
Awesome thanks for posting!
Thank you for the detailed video.
interesting video! more like this please!
What a wonderful treasure!
thank you for sharing! very interesting!!!
I'm drooling to see inside the intercooler. Also I am dying to see the wastegate.
The cylinder on the side of the waste gate has a linear transducer built in. it measures the position of it's stroke.
Those are generally called "charge coolers" rather than intercoolers but technically it's a "laminar flow air-to-water heat exchanger". Surface finish on the carbon is due to that being the layup side and also due to that side not needing to be smooth for any purpose other than aesthetics...so it's not (to save weight). Nice to see one torn down! Still surprises me that they use wastegates at all as the whole point of the MGU-H was to harvest energy from the turbo when producing more boost than required. Material is probably inconel or titanium.
Riktigt intressant video!!😍
Micro tube inter cooler I have one on the 5.4L F150 in the intake manifold over the magnenson super charger. works good no hysteresis losses
The waste-gate is made form Titanium by the looks of it, especially with the rainbow effect where the heat has changed it.
Awesome video!
Serious props for the engineers who build and design the F1 stuff!
Would love to know what they're worth!
Wow! Thanks for sharing!
really cool video!
Its nice to see they use ebay silicone bulge couplers and worm drive hose clamps in F1.
when you're on a budget, not always worth trying to re-invent the wheel. plenty of people running over 800bhp using silicone hose adapters. the worm drives are quite surprising though, I'd have thought they'd use at least use constant tension clamps!
Alex Haws remember they're clamping to carbon fibre... It may be reinforced with a metal band, it may not. Regardless, you don't want to overtorque clamps onto carbon
could it be that these parts were used for testing where they simply did not need heavy duty clamps? still interesting though. enough to say that MY own car has F1 parts on it ;)
what do you mean ebay? samco is the top company in silicone hoses, not some chinese crap.
i think the point he's making is that they are cheap parts to be using on ~£15mil engine - which generally contains no "off the shelf" parts. Those joiners are like £15 each.
It's a normal water to air intecooler.
minis tubes are used to maximise the surface area of heat exchange.
you have more surface of material with numerous little tubes than bigger fins.
moreover it allows more homogeneous exchange.
Ethylene glycol is not allowed on tracks,so it's certainly just water,or water with sodium,or something enhancing heat exchange.
@PeterBjorck - the "ABA" branded hose clamps are from an English company called Springmasters. Part # 48312.
Interesting that Marussia put their own serial numbers on each clamp: they really are tracking every part individually.
Thank you for sharing!
That intercooler is just amazing. All those tiny pipes and machining is gorgeous. I wonder how many man hours it took to produce it.
Jeez. The heat exchanging ability of that thing must be outrageous.
That intercooler is magnificent
More videos like this, please!
Really cool.
Very interesting!!
Those two braided lines are turbo coolant lines. You can see the molded hold-downs in the carbon charge pipes where they would have been routed.
fina grejer ! jag bruka ibland köpa saker bara för att få se och lägga på hyllan men detta va ju att ta det till en ny nivå haha! tack för videon! mvh jens
Very interesting and nice video! Please show the other parts you have
Cool video buddy. You’re a smart dude
That intercooler is SUPER efficient. It should capable of cooling your lambo. Fi cars are pretty much full throttle always. That thing has huge heat removing capabilities. Plus how much water you run affects thermal mass alot. An 800 hp intercooler and a 800 hp wide open for entire race intercooler is a different animal. Beautiful unbelievable Swiss watch of intercoolers.
Just a small correction @6:40 If the air encounters a narrower diameter, it will actually increase in velocity but decrease in pressure. So I think the aim there is to have more air flow faster and leave a lower pressure "behind", for more air to flow through...just my two cents. :)
The coolant goes in on the air discharge side so it's counter flow. That way the air entering the engine is as cool as possible
So I dont know the rules for formula one but that intercooler almost seems like it should have refrigerant running thru it instead of liquid. I would be worried of clogs even with the CLEANEST liquid. Again, I have NO IDEA, its just my take on it. Thanks Peter, its always nice to see tech videos from someone that knows what they are doing. Good luck
Very interesting
that intercoller coolant piping is more like an air con system. Very interesting indeed.
The texture on the outside of the carbon parts is caused by the vacuum bags used in the molding process. The mold would be on the inside keeping it smooth but since the outside didn't matter they didn't make a mold side for it.
Ferrari F1 spec intercoolers on Lamborghini engines? Ferruccio will be turning in his grave.
lamborghini actually started building road cars to distance himself from enzo's snobiness
Andres .C You mean Enzo will be turning in his grave when he finds out that his F1 car parts are being used in a piece of shit lambo.
Yeah very entertaining that Lambo built the Miura to spite Ferrari after he offered some technical advice on there poor clutch system, but was met with Ferrari's classic arrogance! sit down Ferrari we'll be taking the credit for the first super car thanks chai haha!
great video,
Holy surface area!
Awesome video! I want to know more about the Volvo wagon project!
This was such an interesting video. I bet when Ferrari were designing those parts they never thought that they would end up on a Lamborghini one day! I am very curious as to how much parts like those cost at auction.
AWESOME!!
That intercooler uses refrigerant gas under decompression. The inlet lines are too small if a liquid had to cool that amount of airflow. Probably the same cooling the ultracapacitor and K.E.R.S. motor.
Thank you
Cool you can use this to cool your engine and cool air for turbo at the same time I think
Amazing! Real F1 parts, that is history.
thanks for sharing the infos
Amazing that it's water to air, thought that would be way too heavy.
water to air is more consistent and more controllable than having to rely solely on ambient air temps.
water to air IC's still use a heat exchanger for the water in a closed loop. in road cars at least. i would imagine these cars still use a heat exchanger for the ic water.
I guess they make it compact enough that they wouldnt have to increase the volume of coolant too much, while hanging more gear in the wind would be a big drag penalty.
They can easily make the weight limit with the intercooler full of liquid. Even if they got a increase in weight, they could take out some ballast weight to compensate.
beauty of micro tubes, so little volume for maximum surface area. i bet that intercooler when full holds maybe 250 mL of coolant.
Agree
More videos please!!