I hope to see more of this one in the future. I've owned several and still own a few 32's. They're a lot of fun in a pistol and I've always wanted 1 in a rifle. This is a relatively easy way to accomplish that
@ Thanks. Don’t know if you remember, or are old enough to remember, there was an AR patterned rifle sold through the gun magazines of the 1980’s called the AP 74 and the AP 71. I believe it was the AP 74 that was chambered in .32 ACP. They were selling for under $100. I don’t know why I never ordered one. Been looking whenever I go to a gun store or show. I’ve found parts, but that’s it. It would be great if someone was to revive these. Thanks for commenting.
@@diggingoonschmitYes, I always wanted 1. I had an opportunity to buy an AP74 in 32 ACP in 1984 but I didn't have the money right then so someone else got it. About 5 years ago I saw 1 at a gun show in pretty poor condition for a ton of money and I passed on it. They were pretty good guns but not worth huge money.
I have a Short Lane 45 Colt adapter for my two NEF 12 gauge shotguns Have never had a problem extracting the expended cartridge cases. Time consuming, perhaps, but no problem for guns that are used for hunting, rather than defense.
Did you epoxy that rail on top or tape holes? H&R Topper 162 Buck has holes tapped for a Lyman peep sight from factory. 6-48 screws holes about .100" deep.
@@raylaux8295 I wanted the extra thickness of metal in order to use 8-40 screws for the scope mount and get enough depth for the screw. So I silver brazed on a 1/8” steel sheet I radius formed to fit over the chamber area. It worked great. I did not believe the original thickness of the outside of the chamber to be sufficient/marginal, at best, to secure a base with a decent size/magnification of scope. Thank you for your comment and question. It is much appreciated.
I bought a heavy barrel blank in 4140 from shaw barrels and ground my own with a lathe and grinder setup. Mine is for 458 Lott in a CZ 584 that's a break action with 30-06 on bottom and 12 gauge on top. So now I can hunt with 30-06,12 gauge, and 458 Lott in one gun. The 584 is special in that the same action was used to build over and under 458 Winchester magnum double rifle's. I've shot some hand loads with a 500 grain bullet at 2400 fps and let me tell you it is absolutely painful 😖.
Well, thank you OP! TIL the H&R Topper 158 was sort of the precursor to the later Handi-Rifles. I happen to have a Topper 158 so it'll be interesting to find what calibers that action/frame is capable of handling. I do know when it comes to using these adapters there is an issue with the action/frame and its firing pin. Most seem to be able to handle NON magnum pistol cartridges but not all can withstand Magnums or high power rifle cartridges. In those that can't, the firing pin usually punctures the primer, then the blast from the primer hole damages the firing pin and sometimes even ejects it backwards out of the frame, often hitting the shooter. There are videos on YT of ppl who've experienced that problem.
@@dkeith45 yes, you are correct. I would stay away from the magnums and stick to cartridges of lower pressures. The purpose of my set up was to have something similar to the old European Rook Rifle concept. Something that hits fairly hard, a larger bullet, but little to no recoil, and very quiet. Reloading gives you even more options. Next possible project might be a 30 Carbine insert in order to load heavier slugs of 150 or 180 grains. Thank you for your comment!
@@johnmills837 Looking back at some literature of the time, I see there is listed a 158 Topper (possibly the handi-rifle precursor) and a 158 Topper Shotgun. Can't say if both actions/frames were the same? But the caliber for the 158 rifle seems to have topped out at 30-30.
@@johnmills837 The combo Topper 158 had 20ga, 30/30 .410, and .22 Hornet. Later Topper 159 (pre SB) into the 70's had 44 Mag, .357 Mag, .45/70 were also available from H&R until they went out of business in 1986. H&R 1871 started up in 1991 with the SB-1 & SB-2 receivers. SB-2 was for high pressure rifle made from cast treated steel not iron.
I believe they are on Facebook under MCA SPORTS CHAMBER ADAPTORS. I am not on Facebook, but googling the name should give you contacts. I have their email but I am not allowed to give it here, per UA-cam rules. Sorry. They are not the big player in chamber adapters anymore, but I think their quality is the best. You will be happy with their product and service. Thanks for inquiring!
@ They do not have the number of caliber options that MCA Sports offers. Since I like to modify these for an extractor/ejector, for me, I would not want the bevel on the chamber face they put in for prying out your cartridge after firing. But, they are trying to expand their lineup and their products look good. Thank you for your comment!
Just found your channel and subscribed with this post. Welcome to Idaho. I'm not on Facebook or any other social media. Can you post contact info for MCA? Thanks for your efforts.
@@robdavidson4945 First , thank you for subscribing and the welcome to wonderful Idaho. So, I am not allowed to post contact information here on UA-cam. But, Of you go to Google search engine and put in “MCA Sports Adapters Contact Information” it is there. Ace Dube is the owner and Donna Dube is who answers any inquires. I did find a couple search pages containing their address in Alaska and phone number. Unfortunately that is the best I can do here. But you should be able to find a way to contact them. Good luck with that. Again, thanks for subscribing to my small channel. I really appreciate it.
@ Yes, they were catching up on orders and had stopped taking new orders. Donna Dube, told me in an email that they started taking orders again in October. Do a google search for MCA Sports and search the different pages. Eventually you will find a contact number/email address. UA-cam rules won’t let me give it here in comments. Sorry!
@@jonboyfutch8081 Correct. I find the setup for quiet, but hard hitting pest control more needed than long range goose hunting. Thank you for your comment!
@@diggingoonschmit I know you can get a hand cutting tool for cutting the barrel case length. I just don`t know if they sell one for the .327 Rem. Mag. That would be a good bigger varmint round. Coyotes, Wolfs, s, and medium sized hogs.
Polish the chamber A LITTLE, and use lower pressure chamberings like 32 Long, use a reamer to change yours, using a 32 ACP is silly, then the round will fall out.
chaszel also makes some really nice barrel inserts
@@currentcolt3655 Haven’t tried them yet. Their products look promising. Thank you for your comment. I appreciate it.
Chaszel are my favorites. I like the 11" and 18" ones. Very accurate adapters
@ Good to know. Thank you for your comment.
Nice job! 32 ACP makes it into a great little, small game rifle. I like the reload you made.
@@frankbrowning328 It does hit hard, even with a light load. Thank you for your comment, it is much appreciated.
I hope to see more of this one in the future. I've owned several and still own a few 32's. They're a lot of fun in a pistol and I've always wanted 1 in a rifle. This is a relatively easy way to accomplish that
@ Thanks. Don’t know if you remember, or are old enough to remember, there was an AR patterned rifle sold through the gun magazines of the 1980’s called the AP 74 and the AP 71. I believe it was the AP 74 that was chambered in .32 ACP. They were selling for under $100. I don’t know why I never ordered one. Been looking whenever I go to a gun store or show. I’ve found parts, but that’s it. It would be great if someone was to revive these.
Thanks for commenting.
@@diggingoonschmitYes, I always wanted 1. I had an opportunity to buy an AP74 in 32 ACP in 1984 but I didn't have the money right then so someone else got it. About 5 years ago I saw 1 at a gun show in pretty poor condition for a ton of money and I passed on it. They were pretty good guns but not worth huge money.
@ If we only knew then what we know now.
I have a Short Lane 45 Colt adapter for my two NEF 12 gauge shotguns
Have never had a problem extracting the expended cartridge cases. Time consuming, perhaps, but no problem for guns that are used for hunting, rather than defense.
@@thomassmestead9905 They do add a whole lot of extra enjoyment and practicality to our firearms. Thank you for your comment. It’s much appreciated.
Did you epoxy that rail on top or tape holes? H&R Topper 162 Buck has holes tapped for a Lyman peep sight from factory. 6-48 screws holes about .100" deep.
@@raylaux8295 I wanted the extra thickness of metal in order to use 8-40 screws for the scope mount and get enough depth for the screw. So I silver brazed on a 1/8” steel sheet I radius formed to fit over the chamber area. It worked great. I did not believe the original thickness of the outside of the chamber to be sufficient/marginal, at best, to secure a base with a decent size/magnification of scope.
Thank you for your comment and question. It is much appreciated.
Sweet set up!
@@BoC260 Thank you for your comment!
I bought a heavy barrel blank in 4140 from shaw barrels and ground my own with a lathe and grinder setup. Mine is for 458 Lott in a CZ 584 that's a break action with 30-06 on bottom and 12 gauge on top. So now I can hunt with 30-06,12 gauge, and 458 Lott in one gun. The 584 is special in that the same action was used to build over and under 458 Winchester magnum double rifle's. I've shot some hand loads with a 500 grain bullet at 2400 fps and let me tell you it is absolutely painful 😖.
@@Hunt_or_Die Nice set up. Talk about a real game getter!
Your comment is appreciated.
Well, thank you OP! TIL the H&R Topper 158 was sort of the precursor to the later Handi-Rifles. I happen to have a Topper 158 so it'll be interesting to find what calibers that action/frame is capable of handling. I do know when it comes to using these adapters there is an issue with the action/frame and its firing pin. Most seem to be able to handle NON magnum pistol cartridges but not all can withstand Magnums or high power rifle cartridges. In those that can't, the firing pin usually punctures the primer, then the blast from the primer hole damages the firing pin and sometimes even ejects it backwards out of the frame, often hitting the shooter. There are videos on YT of ppl who've experienced that problem.
@@dkeith45 yes, you are correct. I would stay away from the magnums and stick to cartridges of lower pressures. The purpose of my set up was to have something similar to the old European Rook Rifle concept. Something that hits fairly hard, a larger bullet, but little to no recoil, and very quiet. Reloading gives you even more options. Next possible project might be a 30 Carbine insert in order to load heavier slugs of 150 or 180 grains.
Thank you for your comment!
Up to 40k psi has been factory installed on early 158 Topper shotgun frames. So a 44 mag or Ruger level 45 Colt are good.
@@johnmills837 Looking back at some literature of the time, I see there is listed a 158 Topper (possibly the handi-rifle precursor) and a 158 Topper Shotgun. Can't say if both actions/frames were the same? But the caliber for the 158 rifle seems to have topped out at 30-30.
@@johnmills837 The combo Topper 158 had 20ga, 30/30 .410, and .22 Hornet. Later Topper 159 (pre SB) into the 70's had 44 Mag, .357 Mag, .45/70 were also available from H&R until they went out of business in 1986. H&R 1871 started up in 1991 with the SB-1 & SB-2 receivers. SB-2 was for high pressure rifle made from cast treated steel not iron.
@@dkeith45 Topper Shikira 1975-1983 was chambered in .45/70
Do you have a link or source for MCA?
I believe they are on Facebook under MCA SPORTS CHAMBER ADAPTORS. I am not on Facebook, but googling the name should give you contacts.
I have their email but I am not allowed to give it here, per UA-cam rules. Sorry.
They are not the big player in chamber adapters anymore, but I think their quality is the best. You will be happy with their product and service.
Thanks for inquiring!
If Your In The U.S You Can Get A Huge Selection Of Adapters From A Company Called- Chazel
@ They do not have the number of caliber options that MCA Sports offers. Since I like to modify these for an extractor/ejector, for me, I would not want the bevel on the chamber face they put in for prying out your cartridge after firing. But, they are trying to expand their lineup and their products look good. Thank you for your comment!
@@derekcroft2055 Just bought one. All steel not like the alu SOS ones.
@@diggingoonschmit Riiight
Just found your channel and subscribed with this post. Welcome to Idaho. I'm not on Facebook or any other social media. Can you post contact info for MCA? Thanks for your efforts.
@@robdavidson4945 First , thank you for subscribing and the welcome to wonderful Idaho. So, I am not allowed to post contact information here on UA-cam. But, Of you go to Google search engine and put in “MCA Sports Adapters Contact Information” it is there.
Ace Dube is the owner and Donna Dube is who answers any inquires. I did find a couple search pages containing their address in Alaska and phone number. Unfortunately that is the best I can do here. But you should be able to find a way to contact them. Good luck with that. Again, thanks for subscribing to my small channel. I really appreciate it.
So are they still in business despite having given up their website?
@ Yes, they were catching up on orders and had stopped taking new orders. Donna Dube, told me in an email that they started taking orders again in October.
Do a google search for MCA Sports and search the different pages. Eventually you will find a contact number/email address. UA-cam rules won’t let me give it here in comments. Sorry!
@ Thanks for confirming. Glad they’re still active.
This seems to be a long-term hack. Most adapter users, I assume, like to switch out calibers in the field.
@@jonboyfutch8081 Correct. I find the setup for quiet, but hard hitting pest control more needed than long range goose hunting. Thank you for your comment!
I would like to see a .327 mag. insert.
@@sirjhonson8218 That would be interesting. Especially to make hand loads. Thank you for your comment. Appreciate it.
@@diggingoonschmit I know you can get a hand cutting tool for cutting the barrel case length. I just don`t know if they sell one for the .327 Rem. Mag. That would be a good bigger varmint round. Coyotes, Wolfs, s, and medium sized hogs.
Chaszel makes that
If you look up rifle inserts manufacture in Georgia,thier is a company that makes some quality items.
@@larryalexander4833 Thank you for your comment. It is very appreciated.
@diggingoonschmit your welcome sorry I don't remember their name
@@larryalexander4833 It’s Chazel.
You are way over the heads of most gun owners.
@@TheArby13 I try to explain the best I can. Many more, these days , seem to try to do more themselves. Thank you for your comment!
Polish the chamber A LITTLE, and use lower pressure chamberings like 32 Long, use a reamer to change yours, using a 32 ACP is silly, then the round will fall out.
@@Siskiyous6 what exactly are you referring too? Why polish my perfectly good 32 ACP chamber. Am I missing something?