The ACOG I Wanted to Love | Ta33
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- Опубліковано 16 жов 2024
- The Ta33 is really cool, and checks a lot of the boxes of what most people seek out of a ACOG.
But then you go shooting and realize some seriously big gaps in capability.
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People say this channel is turning more and more into Nutnfancy but I haven’t yet had to listen to a ten minute talk about today‘s knife, plane model or watch and I‘m eternally grateful for that.
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Yes. Thank God, I'm so tired of all that. Hopefully is BF gets approached by any sponsors, he'll do the right thing and say nah.
@@life_of_riley88 nah dude, sponsors are fuckin nice. He can just keep em short, and you can install sponsorblock and not deal with them
nutnfancy chambered in a smaller caliber, higher velocity cartridge
I love how we are coming full circle again. First it was cool to have an acog and rmr on top
Then everyone was like “that’s too high and 1x is more important” and we went to red dots with magnifier
Then “that’s too complicated just get an LVPO”
Then people were like “1x on the lvpo isnt as good” and mounted secondary red dots
Meanwhile the NV bros and giraffe operators are going unity mount height
So now we are back to acog (much mor bomb proof than most lvpo) and RMR at unity level height.
Yup! I have sprung for NV yet, so Im at standard height rn. I'm thinking thermal clip on before NV. I have 3 acres of forest that I have no need to patrol, but would like to see what's out there, 24/7.
@@survivetheattack thermal scope and headmounted NV is the way to go IMO, followed by a coti/jerryc. Starting with the thermal if youre gonna be stationary is the smart move.
I picked up a Torrey Pines thermal. Augments my PVS-7’s
Military and police folks like myself didn’t get into this civilian optic or that one. LPVOs are straight up trash, Acogs are ok. For us DHS folks it’s red dots on high mounts for NV. That’s it.
@@CB-ux5xc Didn't the army and Marines both just adopt an lpvo?
I swear you don’t put out a single video that isn’t a 100% banger it’s great
Right ? This guy is a serious breath of fresh air. No gimmick, or rather, his gimmick is sincerity and approaching concepts that a lot of people would scoff at as too high end or unapproachable for the average shooter, and he really knocks those preconceptions over like a steel circle at 600yd with his 11.5” AR. It’s actually a great metaphor for what he does, it’s unlikely but it’s doable and quite impressive when done well.
Good stuff. Your channel is like if Nutnfancy and Daddy Plaid had a love child, but only the best parts.
Also TA44’s with ACSS or no ACOG hahaha. Was mucho disappoint when they discontinued that, it’s my favorite 10-16” AR optic.
Lol who is Daddy plaid?
@@Mase326 I‘m kind of annoyed how you can’t seem to watch a single scope low magnification scope review on YT these days without someone asking for the ACSS but you‘re spot on. It works great in the ACOG.
@@treyconnor1859my guess is garand thumb problably
@Trey Connor it’s a channel for ladies, gentlemen, and often forgotten, but not by me, wiener dogs who identify as a TA44 ACOG with ACSS reticle.
I really like my ta33. Haven't really noticed most of the issues, except the issue with using it for scanning/spotting. The biggest benefit by far is dropping over 1.5 lbs of LPVO and mount off the weight of the gun.
I think the PA Compact LPVO will change the dynamic quite a bit. It weighs 20.4 oz with an AERO ultralight LPVO mount.
I didn’t notice any optical compromises for the size/weight. The field of view was massive.
@@TKTK-sw3tq that isn’t a whole lot of dropped weight.
Losing a full 9 oz is pretty big
However you're right, the TA33 is still 9 oz lighter than the 20 oz LPVO with mount
I have one as well. Have you looked through any other ACOG models? I was in total agreement with all the observations
@@mattcomchoc2957 Only other has been a ta31. Didn't like the nonexistent eye relief, didn't spend much time with it. I also have an old 3x PA prism. I still own it and use it, but it's not my favorite.
I really don't get lost in the ta33, maybe because I've only ever ran a ta33 with a rmr piggybacked, so I've trained myself to know when to switch between the two based on different situations. Maybe it's because I don't try to mount it as far forward as possible. Not sure, but never really noticed it unless I'm literally trying to move (like brisk walk/run) and shoot while looking through it.
I've never felt claustrophobic behind my ta33. When I first put it up to my eye I was actually amazed because it took up so little of my vison. I feel like you actually have really good awareness of everything around you while looking through the 33. You can then choose to put your focus on the optic and shoot. Almost like shining a flashlight when the sun isn't completely down. You can still see everything and make everything out, but whatever you point the light at is going to be a little clearer.
He was correct in that it sucks for scanning for a hidden targets. He's correct, the circle dot sucks, chevron is what I have.
The 33 is the first prism to sell me on prisms. But as a package, I feel like the red dot is mandatory and a mounting solution should be available on any modern prism (looking at you PA).
Despite the drawbacks, I think the TA31 is still a fantastic optic.
I was thinking the same. It is on my primary ar and i love it.
TA31 still my gtg for mid range. It and the M68 were what I grew up on. They are still instinctive for me, very comfortable. Need to get some lpvo in my life though, the future is now old man lol. Also thanks, before this video I had no idea how to say hop's name.
took my like 6 months to learn how. I also still can't spell it.
I really prefer the Ta-50 for this role. Same 3x mag. Greater FOV at about 25.6ft, slightly lighter and smaller, excellent eye relief that is about the same as the Ta33, and tons of different reticle and caliber options. I run mine with a 7.62x39 ballistic drop reticle on an AK. Oh and a top dot can be mounted.
Solid points and good information. Especially for folks considering different sights options. All is a difficult balance game. METTTC
The stoic LARP vibe is really growing on me, best intro thus far, keep it up!
I recently aquired a TA33 with a piggyback RMR, specifically for a 9" .300blk. I was contemplating a Red dot/magnifier combo but believe there are more benefits to TA33/RMR:
1. I have a zero for subs(RMR) and supers(TA33)
2. As you mentioned, its a decent option for shooting under night vision with the RMR being nice and high(and farther foreword than on a TA31).
3. A Red dot/magnifier typically has a better FOV, but I highly prefer the "hands-free" method of changing magnification.
You have a point that its not great for scanning and target identification, but I think thats a very marginal trade-off if you take advantage of its niche capabilities(especially if your primary optic is intended to be the RMR).
Good points
I think a 300blk might be a good for this setup. I'm going to have to consider that when I dabble in 300blk land
@@BrassFacts my brother in Christ, don’t step into the Bill Cosby yet. You’ll eat into your revenue.
For your first point, I think eo tech makes a sight that has two dots. One for supers and one for subs
@@rohandas5987 you wouldn't have 2 zeros.
Love the TA33 personally, the TA47 is my second favorite. Eye relief for days
Today’s sponsor , hard work and banged up knees! Good stuff. Hopefully they’ll check out the BrockHop cast to hear the model comparisons on your subscribestar.
really a fan of this channel. Fast becoming one of my favorite channels. (Also huge fan of Hop, he is a muppet, but we love him) keep the grind going and I think this will become one of the largest guntuber channels out there.
Fixed stocks and prisms go hand in hand. 👌👍
That Vortex 5x is really good and worth a look at! You need an adapter plate if you want piggyback though because Vortex mini-RDS lineup is not so good.
TA-31-ACSS-GREEN and offset GDO for me for the win. Eye relief is fine for those that know to mount/use it. IMO, the sub $1k LVPOs are too dark and fuzzy for my use, so GDO and 3x mini magnifier, or the 3x PA, is my alternative to my TA31 rig.
Also, with the TA33. If you can mount a 12 o'clock dot, that makes finding your target MUCH faster. Lay your dot over target, drop your head behind ACOG, shoot target.
I actually have a SeeAll Night Sight on top of my TA33 right now since the tritium is dead, so I'll have a low light aiming solution that doesn't require batteries, and it works wonders for that.
I’ve been looking at this optic for so long wondering if it could work. Eye relief being the main draw. Appreciate the no bull shit break down
The game boy/hard to process information makes sense but I think the magnification is also actually reduced when you hold the site farther out. When I look through my primary arms 1x prism while holding it farther away, the image on the sight isn't 1x but visibly smaller.
I've had a TA33 for over a decade - it's been on plenty of different guns (duty/personal) - ARs, AK105, currently on a TG36... I generally concur with your assessment of the optic - definitely trainable, to include the occluded shooting. As far as the circle dot, I'm a sucker for that type of reticle, so, meh...
Not a useless review! I have an interest in prism optics because I’m interested in weight savings and big FOV for both competitive and practical use. Sounds like this one might be it for a rifle which was exclusive to competition. Thanks!
Your videos are consistently top notch, hitting on very cool topics with a perspective we almost never get from UA-camrs. You delve into so many practicalities of shooting and using optics that others don’t , and I can’t stress enough that it makes your content stand out. When you said (if I recall) that you are completing an engineering degree, it suddenly clicked for me why your content is so different; YOU are so different than many “gun guys,” and that’s not a knock on them either.
I would humbly request a series of videos on AR-10 / semi auto .308 platform optics, as well as the viability of using something like an Elcan Specter labeled “.223” on an AR-10 with m80, as the ballistics inside 600yd seem fairly consistent. It seems to me that the same way using 77gr ammo on a .223 /55gr BDC changes things up but doesn’t outright make it useless, the same could hold true for using said optic on an AR-10. Maybe this is a selfish request and I need to just shut up and go shoot myself, er… go and shoot the gun, myself, but I would love to hear your take on this as someone who is wrestling about what optic to put on his upcoming AR-10, and , like so many others (I think), I have more optics laying around then guns, and am torn between something like the Elcan, or an aimpoint/ EOtech and vortex micro 6x magnifier / EOtech g45 5x magnifier. I will surely just try all sorts of stuff when it finally arrives (I guess some companies are having issues sourcing .308 barrels at the moment), but I haven’t seen you do too much content outside of your 5.56/.223 rifles and your beloved baby 9mm subgun. Maybe this is a dumb request, in which case just go ahead and ignore all that.
Love the content, keep pushing, keep at it while keeping yourself grounded in your non-UA-cam life, and I believe you could really become quite the voice in this domain. There’s room for more than we have, especially people who bring something new to the table, which you do. God bless.
I appreciate that man, really, means a lot.
I will be delving into the AR10 field soon. (it's pricy) though I probably wouldn't use the elcan 4x. My desired niche is more of a SASS type when vs a battle rifle
I probably wouldn’t take the Elcan off my SOLGW 13.7” NOX pin/weld a certain UA-camr inspired me to seek out because I love the combo so much, but when something pops up in my mind, I kind of blurt it out. I’m sort of stuck between the idea of a reflex / 5 or 6x magnifier and possibly the 407c/507c canted dot, but I’m also debating the idea of the EOtech 1-10, or maybe even a “proper” 4-16 style scope with the side dot and not even bothering with an LPVO for 1x. I’ve never owned an AR10, only a socom II, aka the most expensive shitty gun I’ve ever experienced, genuinely incapable of tight groups at distance no matter what I did. I’ve already used the DD5v3, albeit with a strike eagle, and the difference in accuracy was astounding (vs the socom II), so I basically just wanted to get some input from the gun toting engineer who has long distance shooting spaces on deck to try out many things. I agree they’re pricy, but my philosophy is I have a small pistol, medium pistol, large pistol, and so I’m looking to mirror that in my rifles. The socom II was the large rifle, and it was a disappointment. Now that I saved up enough Pennies and am merely waiting to receive said AR10, the thought is constantly on my mind as to what I should be looking to throw on it. My philosophy is that it’s going to essentially be a bigger, meaner version of the 13.7” 5.56 (as a 16” 7.62x51), and so the question for me is basically how much magnification do I want to bother putting on it, and do I want that magnification as a flip-over magnifier, or a built in aspect of an LPVO. I’ve seen you run this calculus for your 5.56 guns, but I’m curious if anything changes when you run it as a .308. Cheers again, both for the content and the replies to a random fan who really doesn’t matter at all.
@@victordogeman if you want to stick in Battle Rifle Realm I'd look for a 1-8x or 1-10x.
If you want lean more towards the range aspect, the 2-10s are nice
and then, (where Im likely ending up at) something like a 4-16 for extra focus on range
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The fact that Im able to actually reach you in person on here means the world to me, and speaks volumes about you. I used to play music professionally and I always made sure to answer any questions people had, and I never understood why they would get excited by my mere response to simple questions about technique, et al. I kinda get it now. Thanks for taking the time to offer your input on this issue, with the EOtech’s really great 1x and ability to stretch to 10x (combined with a discount I happen to be able to get on them as a result of my post-musician employment), I think I’m going to have to look into them a bit more seriously. I’ll quit bugging you now, just know that lots of folks out here are a fan of what you’re doing, and don’t lose sight of the fact that what you’re doing right now, being yourself and addressing issues that you care about and are qualified to speak on? That’s precisely what makes your channel so good. All the best, friend.
You and hop are the best guntubers. Keep it up!
I love my TA33s. Mounting a RDS on it kind of takes away one of the best features of the TA33 vs other ACOGs and that's it's weight. You spend far more time lugging that rifle around than shooting it at stuff.
Until I looked again on Trijicon's website, I completely forgot that there were 2 versions of the 3x ACOG (like there are the 1.5x), so now I'm interested in the diffences.
Had both of ‘em. The 3x24 TA50 is smaller, being practically the same size as the 2x20 TA47 (had this model as well). It has a slightly wider FOV than the TA33 of 25.6’ vs 19.3’, but at the expense of realistic eye relief, 2 1/4” vs 4”. It’s also limited to two reticle choices with current production models, a Crosshair with BDC and then a Horseshoe Dot with BDC.
@@BlackCloud0351 Well, since Brass's complaint here was that it was too far, do you think it is actually better? From what I heard here, I don't think I would mind the TA33, but if I wanted something that was closer to the TA31 in feel, do you think this would be a better choice? Because unless you are looking to pusch you ACOG a lot further away, the TA50 looks like a better choice in almost every way, but it kinda looks like one of those ''too good to be true'' things.
@@australovenatortomino_1741 The TA50 seems like a shrunk down TA31 with a little better eye relief. Concerning the TA33 (though I got rid of both of mine), it’s still my favorite ACOG and if you said that I’d have to take one ACOG to handle everything, it’d currently still be my choice, with my old TA110 a very close second. But with the TA33, I have a love/hate relationship with it’s “straw” FOV. Some days it doesn’t (didn’t) bother me, other days I’d be ready to pitch it LOL.
I’ve got a couple of videos on here showing my last TA33 beside my current TR25 Accupoint, and watching over it reminds me why I switched it for a quality LPVO, in spite of the additional size and weight penalty. With the Accupoint set down at 3x and comparing them side-by-side when looking at a target, the FOV difference is massive, and it takes setting the TR25 to 6x to finally have as narrow a FOV as the TA33.
@@BlackCloud0351 Thanks for the response, I will definitely check your videos.
There’s a reason the army chose the TA-31
Appreciate the primary arms praise. They make decent optics. I have a 2.5x prism that is very good. I dont have a bad thing to say about it other than, its not enough magnification for me but that is a personal opinion, not a take-away from the optic.
The Travis Haley & Chris Costa clip was a nice touch 👌
Sorry to hear about the FoV issues. Seemed like a good deal for somebody who wants a acog without the eye box issues…oh well. P.S. I love the trio shooting guns and videos together.
I have two of these and a ta31. I have one on a retro carry handle mount, because I think it's cool. The other is on a 12.5 gun I keep in the car. I live on the plains, and it gives me some magnification in a super simple streamlined configuration. The eyebox is nice for weird positional shooting in and around a vehicle. And that's about the only use I can think of for the scope. It's really nice to carry the gun around the farm too. Mine with an SLR mount weighs 9 oz. It's red dot weight with magnification. Red crosshair is my preferred reticle. It is impossible to lose compared to the tiny little chevron.
makes sense, thanks for the input.
@@BrassFacts it's definitely a case where I want to like the optic 😅. We all dream of a sub 10 oz piece of glass that can do it all.
@@JackManiacky I forsee myself buying a second one one day. It's so neat
I tried the 4x32 TA31 out in the store the other day and honestly the eye relief didn’t feel bad at all. Maybe I would have to use it to see the shortcomings but I don’t think I would need to get any other model.
Get the 31
@@blackhawk7r221 I will if I get an acog
I personally love the ta33. I have a pretty bad astigmatism, and this thing is the best thing for me since red dots are a no go.
definitely like my primary arms Glx2 but I'm going to get the Plx 1-8 compact. your video about magnification was the final straw lol
Re: GLx 2 - Does the chevron seem tiny to you too, or is it just my old eyes and PITA meds I take? The eyebox is most excellent though.
@@vicnighthorse yeah it’s pretty damn tiny but I seem to make it work well enough
@@ShaminMike I am keeping mine in use because it is on a 10.5" .338 Specter AR "cheek gun" and 150yrds is the pretty much the max range I shoot it. It is very good for short ranges and almost as good as a red dot for CQB range IMO.
@@vicnighthorse yeah that sounds like it would work pretty good 👍
TA33 seems like the ideal SBR Acog, use the piggy back as primary and TA33 for quick magnification when needed
This is just my opinion, but I feel like the reason the ACOG is so bright is because the tritium is housed inside the scope and always appears to glow as a result.
I have an ACOG from when I was in Afghan... I mean, uh, a long time ago, and the tritium finally died in it. I had to pull every bit of the tape off to get a comfortable reticle brightness in daylight.
Really looking forward to more optic reviews
While not as rugged, but still tough, the Primary Arms Prism 5x SLx with Aurora ret (with diopter) out performs the Trijicon. The 3x is ok.
I just like watching your videos for the commentary 🤣🤣🤣
Primary Arms ftw. I’ve got several of their optics & they seem to only be getting better at designing & building them. I love my Eotech & Aimpoint glass but PA is doing a great job of making optics not just good for the money but good, period.
I’ve never found a Trijicon optic that was substantially better than a competitor’s to justify the price. Whether it’s the ACOG, MRO or a variable power scope there’s somebody else doing as good or better for less money.
Trijicon’s pistol sights are my favorite though. I used their 3 dot tritium Glock sights for years until micro red dots became a thing. Now it’s Ameriglo’s with a blacked out rear sight, which are made by Trijicon.
I dunno man, the first time I used a Ta31 was like looking up god's butthole. The eye relief didn't work out with my build but I've never seen another prism with remotely as good image quality.
Primary Arms has bad reticles IMO, and unless you're in their GLX or PLX lines the glass is kinda meh.
I really like your fixed sight post free float build. I'm doing a gordon carbine in about a month and plan to switch it up and do the same.
I wish I had people around me this serious about training and practicing.... Hell, I wish I had just a few acres of land to run around and train on.... Best I've got is a flat range.... It's a really nice range that hardly anyone ever shows up to but the furthest point is only 300 yards. If I wanted to truly get some real training in my only real option is going through paramount tactical solutions. Only like 30min away from me and those dudes really know their shit but its like a prerequisite training program where you have to of taken basic the 1, 2 etc etc. and it's crazy exspensive...
that cinemo tagraphy is getting gud
“Merry gang of gagglefucks!” 😂😂😂 I’m stealing that!
Your BGM is so good, consistently.
So many UA-cam people say best ever optic for anything. But we get the real story from brass facts.
I try to keep it real.
I know people will buy/not buy based off of what I say. So I don't want anyone (especially if it represents 6mo of savings) on stuff that ends up being trash, but they have to live with
Exactly for that money you can get a nice lpvo or a red dot/ magnifier. Which is mo betta.
Should take a look at the TA50. 3x24 and comes in at exactly 9 ounces with a trijicon qd mount. Slightly more FOV than the 33, and it has similar eye relief to what you reported. Definitely agree on the circle dot being way to big of a dot. But otherwise so far it works well for the purpose I got it "magnified optic and as light as I can make the rifle"
I have a ta50-4 with the crosshair reticle. Love it. I agree that the eye relief should be better then it is. But I’ll take that trade off for a durable and crystal clear optic
11:40 forward assist ftw
i know Hop lives up in the PNW somewhere. one day i just wanna do goon shit with yall
The primary arms is looking more and more appealing for the poor's like me
I'll sell you my TA31F
If you mean the micro-prisim, imho, PA made it TOO small. It needs a larger objective lens and maybe higher quality glass and/or blackened lens edges.
Gay
Poors unite
@@deadeye5155 Gay
Just got my first lpvo. Wish I just spent a few more 100s for an acog. Funny I watched all your videos on optics(as well as the big youtubers). I didn't catch in the video but did you mention target confirmation for distance with the t33? Either way great videos you put out bro!
Used an ACOG for 5 years and I absolutely hated it! The eye relief was my biggest complaint, I could never get it right and it was always hitting my glasses whenever I took a shot
Our guys who had that issue became our close-range EO Tech shooters.
Brock, leading guntube in abandoned metaphors.
hey what's the reason on running the fixed magpul stock
Have you ever tried out the TA-44 ?
I grabbed one to replace an Aimpoint T1 hoping that it’d do better with my astigmatism and am liking it a lot. Thinking of grabbing the PA prism for another rifle since the PA is a fraction of the cost.
How was using NV with the piggybacked RMR? Conceptually, it seems like it provides a convenient synthesis of magnified optic and heads-up NV optic in a light package, but I haven't seen "real world" feedback on the setup.
it works.
But passive NV isn't all that most people make it out to be. It's extremely limited on lighting, and conditions, and the optic choice.
With a RMR you'll get anywhere from 10 yards to 50 yards depending on lighting conditions, and not much more.
Between ta33+rmr or aimpoint t2/m5 + magnifier on unity mount what would you choose for passive aiming?
@@BobBob-il2ku passive? the m5 or T2
for literally everything else: the ta33 + rmr
Kinda want an ACOG so I like the video, at the same time I think ammo will be more valuable, need a pallet.
If you keep churning out bangers, I can keep posting stupid words for the algorithm. Been with you since 2k! Keep it up good sir.
Hey @Brass Facts is there any reason you chose this over the Ta50? From what trijicon shows on their website, the TA50 is smaller and lighter, with a greater FOV than the TA33 with the only negative being a shorter eye relief. Just curious as I am about to pull the trigger on an ACOG. Thank you so much for your time that you take to put into these videos, they are absolutely top notch and very much appreciated. Keep it up man I see you going all the way to the top!
it was basically the eye relief yeah. But as you can see, I didn't really like it enough to keep it
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Me: *looks over at my BCM QRF rail* He doesn't understand, you're just as beautiful as those slim MLOK rails.
You should checkout the Vortex Spitfire II 5x. It can piggyback a red dot (vortex viper is NV compatible) and Hop seemed to review it favorably in his TFB review.
What kind of comms set up are you and hop running brass facts?
a shitty baofeng one. Will have a video on it. but im upgrading to something more robust
The community really needs coms videos I’ve been looking at comms gear supply for baoefeng to cheap headwater like the Howard leights or the earmore m32
This is the first video of yours I have viewed. Thank you for the content. Very informative and much appreciated. I have subscribed. I'd like to ask a question somewhat related only due to the discussion of ACOG. I have both the ta33 as well as the ta31f. Admittedly, both were purchased in my firearms/optics lifetime when I bought more before I researched prior. That said, I've taken some distance classes with the ta31f and had to adjust the zero to meters for an accurate bdc. As my distance experience has grown Ive tried to more fine tune the bdc. With chrono readings and viewing others feedback, I found the "sweetspot" to make the bdc as "true" as possible. I have not attempted to run the ta33 out to any longer distance than 300 yards. Do you or any of the other viewers have any suggestions as to ideally zeroing at 100 yards versus meters? I have read the ta31f is a hard meter zero to be on. Is the seem true for the ta33? With the small chevron i realize longer distances may be pointless to see. ta33 suggests specifically a 62 grain cartridge. Not sure what rounds you're running. Any feedback about what distance others have zeroed and what loads they run is appreciated.
I still love my TA-11 but then again I only use it on mostly flat range out to 200 yards.
it's a good optic for those that dont like the ta31 but also sitll want a acog
Have wanted an ACOG ever since using one in Afghanistan. VA dropped some money in my account so I got the TA33 with green chevron.
Do you, delta34 and hop collab a lot? Can’t wait to see this project you’re talking about
I’ve used the ta33 with a piggy back rmr for a decade almost now and idk I never thought the eye relief was that bad it is a 556 optic so recoil isn’t a issue at all I mean I wouldn’t want it on a 308 rifle or anything that has actual recoil but for a ar15 it’s very good at what it’s there for 500 meter and in minute of man accuracy , I have a bunch of AR15s setup with different optics my leopold 1-4 with a rmr45degree that is probably my favorite setup for it’s eye box and light gathering and I feel much more precise while playing at range, but if I was going to war id take my acog rmr setup. If I was going Night shooting it’s going to be the eotech although my buddy’s aim point is pretty damn nice also it’s a toss up between the two to me. Aim point is probably the better option though I haven’t had a problem with my eotech but I have another friend who had to send his in for dying .
It would be fun to try these other Acogs not sure I like that small of a field of view as this one showcased here but I’m sure if you got use to it you could use it very effectively.
Glass clarity is so so so important for low light shooting though and you get what you pay for it sucks haha except with SWFA haha those or one of the only exceptions I’ve personally experienced in the optic market where you can get a accurate dialed scope with top tier glass quality for $300.
If they even still make them or they or the same as they were a decade ago now.
Take it all with a pinch of salt …
Haha take care fuckers
I think the ACOG is a classic example of Sunk/Loss Fallacy. I think we latched on to it in the beginning and just couldn't let it go and then continue to use it justifying its use despite its drawbacks.
Hands down, the ACOG worked best in combat at all ranges. Red dots are for guys running around on a short distance range making videos.
Be glad you didn’t make my mistake, the TA648 is only 17 feet at 100 yards
Can confirm, Gameboy user growing up and I've got the 'Tism and corrective vision.
Aiming for lasik eventually. 🤓
Triggered.
Wait, which kind of 'tism? Or both 🤔
@@ChucksSEADnDEAD astigmatism, the right eye is 20/200 or something and the left is 20/50ish. Didn't realize how bad my sight was until I got corrective lenses, blew my mind how much detail I missed in life.
@@y.e.kahunakalash (it was a joke because people in the /k/ adjacent communities also shorten "I have autism" to "I have the 'tism")
I'm waiting for Primary Arms to drop the 5x microprism and their piggyback red dot mount for all the microprisms. A combined package that'll be half the cost of an ACOG. I imagine it would make the TA33 + red dot combo look rather silly.
Anyone else holding out for the newer upgraded 5x Primary Arms that has to be in the pipeline?
I got two TA50 ACOGs through the demo/used section of euro optics. Likely LE buybacks cause one was beat to hell for $450 and the other is basically new for $800.
The TA50 looks to have some of the same issues you outlined for the TA33 but to a lesser extent. Eyebox is great but FOV is narrow. Looking at the ACOG chart it seems the FOV is a little better on the TA50 than the TA33. Perhaps you can give it a try and see if its a better option?
Off subject, but i had an Australian shepherd named Nova. Miss that dog...
Good shit. I use the same camping stove, I fucking love it.
TA11 next
It looks as tho you have a drone up for some of the b-roll. This is not in your SHTF pack vids, afaik. Is this something you'd incorporate into your pack for recon? Not many talk about it since thermal cams at 640 res are so expensive.
yeah, I'd run one depending on the mission or objective. It's quite useful, though very power hungry
@@BrassFacts Yes, one battery good for 45 minutes depending on size of drone but if you do a 5 minute recon you can gather a lot of info... carrying power pac is def a must. Drone in SHTF would be a lifesaver.
@@toddinfl atm my drones are more like 15min of loiter
10min of flying.
But yeah, my team has two drones, and are probably going to get more
@@BrassFacts That thermal cam is a must on one of 'em. Expensive but you can find decent 640 res for like 2k
@@toddinfl step one: thermal for me, before I strap 2k to a drone haha.
I commented this on another video but I’ll just re-ask here, do you think if you put a riser on your stock it would help you get more of a cheek weld when using your piggyback dot?
you wouldn't be able to use the optic then. These are really low (1.53 iirc)
@@BrassFacts the rmr is only 1.53 high??
@@BrassFacts ohhh I see you wouldn’t be able to use the acog Bc they sit low, hmm
Test a trijicon tr-20 3-9x mill dot with a rmr on top or offset. I'm telling you this set up is sweet. The 3x on the scope is better then a acog, eyebox is amazing eye relief 3.5 inches and fov is 34ft. Best part is this bad boy is 13.4 ounces illuminated and tough as shit. Having that 9 power is amazing.
primary arms 1x6 and swampfox 1x10 is what I use
Vortex 5x micro prism can mount a mrds on top and EGW makes an rmr/holosun plate for it.
Could you consider doing a video on the swampfox LPVOs?
What are your thoughts about the Primary Arms SLx 3x32mm Gen III? since we're on the subject of x3 scopes.
havent messed with one.
I run one on a 20 inch and love it. If you are talking about the older style. Mine is a gen 1 and has been abused quite a bit. I'm putting a red dot on top.
Had you given any thought to slapping the TA33 onto a carry handle?
Any thoughts on a 45-degree angle/canted red dot and hunting scope on the same carbine?
Personally I dont like canted dots. For the ta33 specifically it needs a piggyback to cover the short comings
It's a real shame the Sig Bravo 4 got nowhere
I’d like your thoughts on green reticles
Great video!
Thanks!
Have you tried the sigsauer bravo 3 4 or 5? Thoughts compared to the PA x3 or x5?
Definitely getting some last of us vibes at the end there.
I remember the 1st time I tried an acog the eye relief turned me off instantly.
Where are you guys out shooting at? I've been looking around for an open environment to reach out a little further and to get into nature.
this video specifically it's somewhere west of boise
have you done a video on the forward assist in suppressed shooting before? probably be a very juicy and controversial topic. just looking at 11:20
one day perhaps, Not really on my radar though
Is the fsp visible when looking through this optic?
yeah, but as a blur.
What's the muzzle device in the beginning?
nox
@@BrassFacts Oh I'm an idiot. I thought the flashlight head @1:38 was some kind of linear comp.
@@p47plane I can't unsee it now... and I own the damn thing xD
How does the Ta33 compare to the TA01?
so are you using the RMR with nods or just using the laser to aim ?
both/ Typically laser, but the option is nice.
I'd be curious to see what you think of a TA50. Don't spend the money on one just to check it out because it's very similar to the PA3x.
Thus far I like the TA33 and PA3x the best of my optics. My elcan OS4x is up there as well, but it's kind of cumbersome to use since the eye relief is so tight. Also the 6x acog, the TA648 is quite the experience if you get to try it. It has enough FOV and image size to feel useable for general purposes.
I have a couple TA50's and feel some of the issues he has brough up about the TA33 are there but to a somewhat lesser extent. The eyebox still feels great but the FOV is lacking. It is a smaller size and lighter weight so I think its an evolution from the TA33 concept to try and make it better.
What upper is that? Looks like 12.5 barrel, free float handguard w/ fsb?
13.7 mid
Are you using side plates on your PC?
not atm, I'm in the process of setting up another PC with sideplates, but that project kind sidelined for a 3A helmet, which got side lined for better comms.
it's a never ending money pit.
ACOGs are too damn expensive. You would think with all the available alternatives that Trijicon would lower the price on a decades old optic.
I am a huge fan of the Primary Arms 1x prism with a 3x magnifier.
Just me.