Gosh. I can’t imagine being on those medications all at once and THEN going cold turkey. I was on Clonazepam and decided it simply wasn’t working anymore and possibly wouldn’t need it, after years of therapy and other personal choices. That was a huge mistake. I dealt with the decency my body had except the seizures that I cluelessly had no idea about. It’s rough. It’s amazing you’ve got to what seems to be a better point. On a different note, I’ve always been far more underweight for my size. It’s incredibly frustrating as my doctors has always said I’m healthy in all areas but I simply would like to build more muscle and weight. Being almost 40 and still fitting into youth clothing is frustrating since they don’t match my personal style. Obviously 😂. I wonder if there’s options you have for someone in my state. Thanks so much!
As someone with PCOS it drove me crazy when she did a whole video talking about how important intuitive eating can be for PCOS. But that’s harmful because 95% of people with PCOS have insulin resistance, which means our appetites and satiety cues don’t work particularly well. When we listen to our bodies so many of us overeat and have too much sugar and carbs, and not enough of other foods we need to eat more of. Her approach could literally make some of us sicker. Especially because our Insulin resistance begets itself if left untreated. Intuitive eating works for some of us, but it’s more likely to backfire. Furthermore intuitive eating is really challenging to do safely for people with conditions like depression, anxiety and ADHD, which is something I never see her acknowledge. Even for people who don’t have PCOS, not everyone’s body works well enough to support healthy intuitive eating and it drives me nuts how hard she used to push it. It’s kinda ableist of her to insist that intuitive eating is the “right” way to approach diet. Funnily enough she seems to have refrained from pushing intuitive eating lately and instead now is hypercritical of other people’s diets when they aren’t “balanced” enough. Even if they are just eating intuitively and don’t need every meal to feature one of her “hunger crushing combos”. I also felt like her video on glucose goddess was FULL of misleading takes and bad faith interpretations, and gave me the impression that she is catering her advice very specifically to people who have a disordered relationship with food. So even when she presents the science she isn’t doing a very faithful job, and her tendency to overcorrect against restrictive tendencies can be very exclusionary, confusing or stigmatizing for people who need to restrict certain foods for medical reasons. With Abby you just can’t win. Her perfectionistic tendencies, snark, and reliance on absolutes is not only annoying but potentially harmful.
Tried intuitive eating and was constantly spiraling into binge eating. It did not work for me, what worked for me was fasting. I managed to regulate my eating schedule and now have a much healthier relationship with food. I guess different strategies help different people
@@yara-um6tx my experience has been the same. I’ll intuitively eat myself into morbid obesity 🤣😅 intermittent fasting and fasting in general really help me have more control
@@belove751 honestly, me too. I was desperately looking for help to manage my eating habits and the intuitive eating sounded too good to be true, and it was 😂. I think intuitive eaters don’t understand the feeling of having a gaping black hole for a stomach.
Wow. That’s really helpful to know about PCOS. I have suspected pCOS and have been trying to intuitively eat but I also have ADHD and I find I over eat and only crave foods I would be better off watching much more closely and limiting.
For me the big issue with Abbey is that she seems as though her perspective is that of a neutral source of scientific information because she’s a dietician, but she is actually approaching my her content from the emotional angle of a person who is still actively recovering from an eating disorder. She claims she is recovered, but it doesn’t seem like it given her line of work and her sensitivity to diet culture rhetoric, and that cognitive dissonance is a big reason why her content is probably well intentioned but ultimately pretty harmful.
I don't even think it is well intentioned. She has admitted to intentionally using full body bikini shots of influencers/celebs in her thumbnails because it gets clicks despite knowing that it is triggering for a large percentage of her audience. When her viewers said her "I lost weight on vacation" video was triggering, she said that it was "good" people were triggered because that forces them to have a conversation about it. Abbey is no position to decide what is best for a complete stranger's mental health. She knows what she's doing and she doesn't care as long as she's getting that coin.
Abbey’s stuff is so hit and miss. I personally find it grating when evaluating some celebrity’s food choices she says “you do you” and then spends the rest of her video explaining how the “you” in question is completely wrong and needs to be called out!🤦♀️ Can’t have it both ways.
@@louisachalarca6494 Mainly because when Abbey says “you do you” she is saying that the person’s decisions are their own and the consequences are for them to live with (so who am I to criticise them?). Immediately followed by “now watch me criticise them”.
I think Abbey's overdramatic facial expressions and demeanour come from her background in theatre. The thing I find with her sometimes is she can be very condescending in the way she speaks to her audience. I really didn't like the remarks she made to ObesetoBeast, he replied and said he felt stupid when she implied he couldn't understand the article on body positivity because he wasn't "educated". She did apologise to be fair, but she tends to act very holier than thou with her "science" background.
Yep condescending is exactly how I have described her. I did not realise she had a theatre background, this also fits with my perception of her. From coming across her years ago, I always felt she was acting, not quite real. She never has felt authentic with having a real and solid knowledge of health issues. I felt she was a plant and I have also felt this about Thomas deLauer.
Can you clarify? I've seen so many different opinions on her that I honestly don't know if I should be watching her not. She might not personally trigger my ED, but I'm afraid I'm unconsciously absorbing a problematic and toxic world-view, you know what I mean?
One thing comes to mind is that she *says* intuitive eating is the way for everyone, but then analyses WIEIAD videos, mostly from women and nitpicks their diet. Even if they do eat balanced she often says that there are better ways. Which is not "intuitive eating", because in the moment I have to look up macros and find alternatives to food I like I do not eat intuitively. On another hand she says she had an ED (orthorexia) and overcome it. But the way she analyses the food choices of other people put that one to doubt. She also applauses the eating habits of severe overweight people while being harsh on normal weight or lean content creators (which do make her a bit of a hypocrite). Next thing is in older videos she basically said being overweight or normal weight or underweight isn't a choice, it's fate, so even if you want to change it, it doesn't work. If you put all of this together she is a red flag for everyone with an ED or on the way out of an ed, because she is hypercritical, says one thing, does another and applauses the HAES people while every semi fit person get's a "you should eat intuitively, but not like that!"@@curlychapina
@@BlackIceDragonSalometo be fair, if I have to intuitively eat right now, I'm going to stuff my face with fats and carbs, it is entirely possible for someone to be in the habit of intuitively eating less healthy and less balanced meals...her intent in those videos is to educate on how to construct better balanced meals. This being said, I'm not against or for Abby, I understand some of the backlash about her tone, especially in her earlier videos a couple of years ago, I think she's taken massive strides to try and improve that, even if she's not getting it right 100% of the time. She's just human like the rest of us
I used to watch Abbey a lot but I unsubscribed sometime this year for multiple reasons. The main reason was that I just no longer enjoyed her content, I had no interest in watching her new videos. Another reason is I felt like she was shaming people who want and try to eat healthy and don't want to become obese. You don't have disordered eating if you want to eat a salad or if you don't want to eat ice cream and peanut butter every day. As someone who has had to watch people I love eat them selves close to death I try very hard to stay healthy and I don't like to feel shamed for doing that. She also comes across as a huge Pick Me and it's just off putting to me now. It's a shame because I've found some really good tips on her chanel to make my meals more nutritious but I just couldn't anymore with her..
I also noticed since watching her content for a few years, that I feel that it is not okay or even "disordered" that I like to eat vegetables with every meal, and I prefer my whole foods instead of ultraprocessed foods.
I find this very interesting. I have consumed Abbey's content for years and I've never felt like wanting to make good balanced choices was demonized. Just goes to show that we all hear and take away different things. HOWEVER, I 1000000% agree with the "pick me" energy or "not like the rest of the girls" even when she took more of a balanced approach and wasn't straight HAES. I've definitely slowed down my consumption of her content. I watch a video here or there that sounds interesting or more educational than review. I miss her old educational plus skit content from way back in the day. I just want the facts and the science. Seems to be way more sass now a days than science.
Same, I enjoyed a lot of her content for a while but it seems like it's taken a weird turn the last few months. I had to unsubscribe because I just didn't enjoy it anymore. But the criticism from that lady about her taking pharmaceuticals is so uncalled for.
I found a lot of what Abbey said concerning restrictive eating very helpful at first in my own journey away from it. Then I saw a video where she described how to stay at a "set weight" point titled "I've stayed the same weight since my 20s". What I disliked about that video was how Abbey was claiming 5lbs was the parameter of fluctuation, which I think could be true but may also be unfair to different heights and builds. Her use of words like "my body just goes back to the EXACT same weight" is troubling to me since she is someone who is supposedly sensitive to eating disorder language. I think she's a mixed bag of good and bad advice, basically, but that was a red flag for me and I've found other sources who speak in less triggering ways. I love Team For Never Lean! I also recommend What Mia Did Next for Ed curiosity and recovery.
My personal issue with Abbey Sharp is that the videos of hers that I have seen where she is giving nutritional information are sponsored by a particular food brand that specializes in the food she is promoting. As someone who is taking a college degree with an area of focus in nutrition, these sponsorships lowers her credibility because she is financially benefiting from saying "___ is healthy," which I have learned in my college classes indicates a bias and causes a source to be less credible. Viewers automatically trust what she says because she advertises herself as a certified nutritionist, so a lot of people forget to check for potential biases and trust her without researching further. Also, she does not provide links to the sources she uses and expects a screenshot of the source title to be enough to back her claims, which is controlling the information people have access to and is also boarders on plagiarism, which is a serious academic and scholarly crime. I've seen other people put links/references in their videos before, so I know it is not impossible for her to do so.
I actually think her advertisments are not problematic in that way, they're just annoying. She doesn't really have a "___ is healthy, so you should buy it" approach to her food advertisements. I actually think she's against labeling any specific food as healthy (and doesn't speak against any particular food unless it's a fad diet item), and prefers to allow all food as a component to a diet that emphasizes protein, fiber, and fat for fullness. And most of the time, she not doing food sponserships anyways, she gets most sponserships from clothing brands, sleep brands, toiletries brands, cleaning services, phone games, etc... Also, she usually does put the links to her sources in the description for her sources. I check them when I watch her videos. That's not the problem with her sources though. The problem is that what she says about her sources, and what the sources actually say, don't always match. Or the sources weren't relevant enough to the topic at hand to use them.
@@frozenraspberries1552 I 100% agree, and I am glad she at least started to put links in her sourced (I used to watch her 3 years ago and I don't remember her putting sourced in her description), but it is sad that she is not being completely honest about what her sources say verses the advice she gives, which is also a bit dishonest in the academic/research sense as well as in daily life. It is also good that she doesnt take too many food sponserships. It was actually kinda funny because I am taking a college nutrition class and mu teacher used her video about potato myths as a form of misinformation solely because she was sponsored by a French fry company, which means that she has to make potatoes look probably better because of the sponsorship (which I love potatoes and believe that they are healthy, but I would trust someone to be more honest if they didn't have a special monetary interest in the subject). It really saddens me that Abbey is giving these confusing messages based solely on her beliefs while cherry picking scholarly sources and not actually giving the information in these sources correctly. Health and nutrition literacy is already huge issue in many places in the world which means that she has a platform that would allow her to do so much good by translating scholarly findings in order for everyone, but instead makes things more confusing for those who do not know much about nutrition through sources that don't match what she is saying.
I unsubbed from her because hearing someone who's supposed to be a licensed professional basically deny that weight has *anything* to do with health got a bit too much. I always feel like she's never truly recovered and projects that fact hard in her videos. (Also, why does she talk to us like we're all idiots lol, is this an audience retention thing?)
Just a side note from watching this video, I find conflating neurodiversity - adhd, autism etc as ‘mental health’ is also lumping things together and still stigmatising misinformation. Yes they totally affect your mental health, but they are not problems to be fixed in of themselves. I have adhd and have struggled with anxiety and depression my whole life, my adhd is just how my brain functions whereas my mental health fluctuates and is dependant on other factors.
Well said! My OCD is my mental health & is a rollercoaster of a journey. My ADHD is just my brain and I’ve learned to embrace it rather than work against it.
It’s a neurological condition, you can still work on it the way you would with mental health, you can still minimize symptoms as well as build skills and tools. I have a disability studies diploma and also have ADHD, it’s more than “just how my brain works nothing I can do about it “. That’s false, you can absolutely work on it the way you would with mental health.
@@Salma-yo6nsit’s not “working against it “ lol. You shouldn’t “embrace” a neurological condition. I also have it as well as Agoraphobia and bpd. I can STILL work on minimizing my ADHD symptoms as they can be debilitating. Same with someone who is Autistic , there are still lifestyle changes you can make to help ease the symptoms and not have it impact your life as much.
@@Salma-yo6nsI mean accept it for sure ! But saying embrace it and doing nothing about it . Seems a little odd, ADHD effects your relationships a lot. I lose a friend for a year due to both of our ADHD’s, once we both got help for our ADHD and actually working on it through therapy, we are able to be friends again ! So yeah I defs not “embrace” it like that
My issue with Abby is that I heard her state in a video that he finished her university degree and knew that she did want want to do clinical practice. She began making youtube content instead. So, she has zero clinical experience. Simply completing a degree does not make you an expert. Applying newly learned knowledge in a clinical setting and gaining hands on experience does.
As someone with an ED history and a nutrition degree, I find her content problematic. She contradicts herself left and right and is insensitive and unprofessional in her delivery of her content.
Won't go into too much detail as it's something I say a lot, but always proud of you for your own openness with mental health and medication use, it really does say a lot about you and helps others more than you'll ever know. I agree with your take on how content creators present information can negatively impact how it's received, although presenting stuff in a manner that could be seen as "too analytical/dry" without any passion behind it can put others off as well, so I believe there are circumstances where a balance can be worked towards. Good sauce x
I completely understand why some people don’t like abbey but I personally find that her content makes me often feel better about myself not being perfect with my diet. I used to try to follow very strict diets and quit once I caved in and had some “bad food” and being disappointed in myself but i feel like I learn through her that sometimes it’s okay to eat a little more or have a snack when you’re craving it and maybe just choose a healthier option to snack on.
I find that Abbey lacks empathy in many of her videos. It also feels like she is shaming whoever she is covering’s diet and sometimes lifestyle. Like there is no way in hell that someone whose profession is for example either a ballet dancer or a model, will and should have the same diet as the girl next door. These people have chosen to do what they do, they enjoy it and have worked very hard to get to the point they are at. And to me if just feels disrespectful. I would appreciate it if Abbey would always disclose and remind the audience ”These tips are based on the general recommended daily allowance etc. and I am only making generalizations. Person X has this job/hobby which is why they may have to eat in a certain way.”
I like a lot of her older contents, overall they are calm and agreeable. These days I feel she could be overly emotional/critical when reviewing someone's daily diet - while still trying to promote "you do you" / intuitive diet
I’m not sure about Liz’s video, but this left out that abbey has ADHD and that was a huge part of her seeking medication. If Liz insinuated that diet can cure adhd that should be seen as extremely problematic. For anyone who doesn’t know, adhd is neurological, it’s low levels of certain neurotransmitters. Medication is the current gold standard for treatment. A lot of the conversation and/or debate surrounding Abbey I feel like would really benefit from including adhd and how that looks in women vs men and societal pressures, etc. As always Harry was lovely and handled such a sensitive topic with grace and let each woman have her opinion and dignity💕
Of course diet can help, our food affects every cell of the body including the brain so there is nothing wrong with suggesting that diet can help alleviate symptoms of adhd
I honestly feel like Liz going after Abbey's medication-use is a low blow. I'm on Quetiapin too, currently, and we're looking into a mood-stabilizer too, because i've gone through a very high high, and am currently in a horrid low. Pills can be necessary, and if those 25 mg of Quetiapin means i can actually sleep and function the next day, why wouldnt i be taking them??? 🤷🏻♀️ i've always told anti-med people that i'll happily stop on those pills, as long as they are living with me while i do so. I lasted a week last time i tried stopping, and i was miserable. Fell asleep at 4-5 in the morning, woke at 9 at latest, was crying at the drop of a hat, and stuck on the couch because everything was overwhelming and too draining 🥴
@louisachalarca6494 but that's not what she said. She never said she was addicted to them. She used the word dependency, which if you are taking something for whatever reason is dependent on it. It doesn't make it a bad term. For someone who wants to break the stigma getting hung up on small words like that is not helping. It's like when people get upset with the word diet. Diet is not a bad word but what people associate it with. Diet is very literally what you eat everyday. That's why your doctor asks what is your diet looking like? It's very literal. Liz meant it as you're relying on medication which is great for her but not for Liz. Abbey as a professional should learn not take personal remarks like this as being in the nutrition field people are extremely sensitive. She as the professional came off extremely judgmental then ran and cried victim over analyzing one word.
I don't follow Abbey. I just see what you review. I was not a fan of meds for years. I thought diet and exercise should be enough. This was before I was diagnosed with a few mental health disorders. I now take meds and go to therapy. I'll be honest the meds help me but... I'm also afraid of being on them for the rest of my life. Youre right Harry, no cures for mental disorders, just lifetime management. I'm with you on your journey. Hope you are having a good one!
Harry I love your content and I know you struggle with mental health like myself and may overanalyze how you come across to others. What I can say is you're kind and share a point of view that's non bias for a majority of your takes. Give yourself some grace regardless of what a few people say. I appreciate the opinion of not feeding your issues by continuing to watch creators harming yourself. Thank you for all that you do. I love watching your videos and they and you have a positive impact on my life. So thanks for the bibs and bobs and the guides, and answering any questions I have just through insta ! Thanks again and I hope you're doing better.
I could never get into her content. To me, she comes off as a mean girl. I also don't have an eating disorder and never have. I just find her critiquing of others food choices out of line. But again, I've never had an eating disorder and I don't know how that may impact others watching her content. I just don't like her attitude and coming off as if she knows best. I feel like everyone is different and have different needs, and that should be taken into account when you're giving advice on nutrition. I just don't see that from her.
The happy dance I did in the gym when I saw this upload though.. thanks Harold 😂 I have a few thoughts… I am 50/50 on Abbey - I agree she can be a bit condescending but she does also offer some helpful advice. Shaming people for their mental health problems is absolutely abhorrent and we should be allowing others to have a safe space to discuss how they are feeling and struggles they are facing. In my experience medication can and does help SOME people - but absolutely not as the sole method of treatment and should always be prescribed responsibly. All in all, another great video from you Harry and I will always appreciate the way you show a multitude of perspectives. Also - 15/10 coach highly recommend if you have been thinking about it ♥️
I've had to accept that my 2 diagnoses will never be cured. I am hoping I can manage my symptoms. This is currently not the case, but I have gotten better before and hoping that can happen again
I also have fibromyalgia, and although diet definitely helps, it will never make it completely go away. I find youtube shorts that say a certain diet (or any specific thing) will take away chronic pain or mental health disorder, very discouraging. Although it could help, it's not that easy
i appreciate your content and have a lot of respect for you sharing your experience with mental health and your stance on medication. if you ever chose to work in the health care field or hold a therapist role, I think you would be very well matched. for context, i work in mental health and find your videos very refreshing in that your content isn't too sterilized and your advice on fitness is evidence based.
I wouldn't care as much if she wasn't an actual dietitian. Not sure what it is like in other countries, but in Canada a dietitian is a legally protected term. You can't just call yourself one. And she hides behind the label and uses it to discredit others. While seeing everything through her very limited view of why someone may eat a certain way
I appreciate you reminding every time that we don’t need to watch content if it’s not helpful. Abbey’s content was definitely triggering for me. But as many other people I continued to watch all kinds of triggering things. It takes time and introspection to change one’s attitude. I don’t try anymore to watch whole video from creator I want to support. Sometimes I leave it running and go to the other room. Sometimes just finish midway. Thank you and other creators - I’ve learned a lot 😊
For people struggling with extreme orthorexia or getting out of EDs, Abbey's content is really comforting and helpful, but the way she demonizes clean eaters or people who do certain eating styles is not reasonable to me. Shaming people for eating sweets is bad, but shaming bodybuilders or models is just as bad. The majority of obese people do consume too many calories and low nutrition food etc and sometimes I feel like Abbey is portraying it as if being obese is something happening for external reasons or just genetic predisposition. And obesity is still different from not being a size 2, you can't equal reasons for both. Her intuitive eating approach and the way she raises her kid are great though!
I laughed at that one. I say that all the time. I sometimes say I am on European Extreme mode as a little inside joke from when I played Metal Gear Solid 2, but I realize it sounds a bit WTF if you don't know that it's from a game.
Swolenormous is another one who I’ve been super split on. A lot of what he says is very conducive to health and longevity, but he has let emotion and holier-than-thou stance devalue his content because you can’t help but feel like he just thinks he’s better than people who don’t live up to his standards.
I think we must not stigmatize taking mental health Medication. This could help diminish the amount of people on the streets or in Prison who are self medicating through street drugs instead of taking medication that can help them manage their lives if they suffer from Depression, Bipolar & Schizophrenia! When people who suffer from schizophrenia take their medication they can live functional lives! Many people whom we all know & work with who seem “normal” are actually taking medication for various mental health conditions & because in America we need to work 40+ hours to keep a roof over our heads the self help approach isn’t always acceptable to the Doctors, Nurses, lawyers, event coordinators, Teachers who have to still function regardless of their mental health & so being on medication absolutely helps them.
I really loved Abbey a while back and really appreciated her science-backed nutrition advice (as I am studying nutritional sciences myself). But I had to stop watching her as well. Some of her videos really rubbed me the wrong way. Giving nutrition advice is a very delicate thing because it's very personal. While one person may need to hear that one "bad" meal is no big deal and in fact you can eat everything you want if you can incorporate it well into your diet (lifestyle, not fad diet!) another person may need to hear that it is a-okay to cut certain foods if they absolutely derail your thoughts. It differs so much. Even without taking eating disorders into account. What is healthy and well for one person is not the best approach for the next. And I feel like Abbey's content is for only a certain subgroup of people without her ever acknowledging that. She acts as if everyone should eat how she sees fit. But I don't agree. (Also, she seems to think that everyone wants to eat sweets and junk food and talks about overly restricting themselves when she judges WIEIADs of fitness people but maybe they actually don't like sweets?)
I watch Abbey and find her to be very concerned about viewers and she gives wide-ranging trigger warnings for things that might bother a viewer. I like her “imperfect” is perfect approach, her openness of her own struggles, and her embracing different issues/body sizes/disordered eating types and her ability to red flag things that fly in today’s culture. I personally haven’t been adversely affected by her content, but I can understand that people might…if they don’t heed her trigger warnings. Overall, big Abbey fan 👏 And, as always, a big Harry fan 👏👏👏
Some don't know what their triggers are and a lot of times it's not a trigger that a lot of people are complaining about, it's purely her condescending tone and how dismissive she can sound.
I used to feel this way about her, but her videos have changed recently. They're now hyperfocused on weight loss, body checking, and "unusual" diet tricks to get thinner. She seems to not care about triggering people anymore.
I stopped watching her videos last year because her style does not fit me - she is sometimes way to emotional and other times she tries to hard to be funny and it's not. So I just don't watch her, I don't hate on her, I don't make videos about her - I just moved on.
I have noticed this channel mostly targets women. The guy behind the channel denied it but I haven’t seen any video not talking about a specific woman. I like abbey sometimes but I do also see she can come across as a Karen. Her disliking paleo bothered me a bit, because with paleo you can still get carbs and such and plenty of protein, it’s just planning meals ahead. But I have become better watching her channel because I have a healthier view of food now. We can always strive to be healthier but we also shouldn’t beat ourselves up for eating a sugary snack if we want one. It’s all about balance. I try not to judge people’s diets. As long as they are doing their best to take care them of themselves that’s what matters
I honestly don't min Abbey being driven by emotions. Food and body image are emotional topics. You can talk about objective facts till the cows come home but if we don't address how emotion plays into it, we're not looking at the whole picture. I understand her perspective. A lot of behaviors she challenges are very normalized. When she's critiquing someone's diet, she's talking about the mentality behind it. Someone eating a salad for lunch because they find it delicious and eating veggies makes them feel good is different from someone eating a salad because they think carbs are poison. Maybe that stuff doesn't come through in her short form content. In her long form content, she talks about the little comments that people make about what they're eating.
This is such a great video! I am taking an anti-depressant....I have been going through a very stressful period of my life since 2018 and it just smashed me mentally/emotionally. I'm still going through it but it has vastly improved. Once I feel that things are in the rear view mirror, as they say, I'll talk to my doc about going off the medication. The thing is...one size does not fit all with regard to nutrition and mental health. Let's not shame people and tell them they are messing up their lives because they are not taking the path they think is right. But I interpreted Liz's response the same way as you did. It was somewhat shaming. She could have said "I just chose to go a different route and it went well for me". I don't follow Abbey enough to have an opinion of her but I didn't like that short you shared. This is super sauce Harry!!! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 Are you coming to the Arnold in 2024??
I stopped watching her vids when I saw her wear a shirt that said “Riots, not diets”. And this was around 2020 or 2021 during all the rioting in the US. That really pissed me off. It didn’t help that her frequent sponsor was an overly processed protein bar.
Abby reminds me of my ex psychiatrist (not even psychologist) who stepped out of her lane and told me I had an eating disorder because I gained a bunch of weight, wanted to better my health and was going to eat one burger for dinner instead of two.
I liked Abbey until one day, after seeing her pick apart some woman’s diet for the 50th time, that it actually doesn’t feel right for a professional in the medical world to be talking about specific people’s diets and putting their potential eating disorders on blast. Yes, talking broadly about health misinformation and disinformation is helpful, but I think it’s crossing a professional line to dive into specific people, even if they did make a WIEIAD. It still doesn’t sit right with me for a dietitian to call out and pass judgment someone’s possible disorder (or to suggest they have one when they might not) to her many followers.
One of my main issues with her is her lack of nutritional information. Reducing foods down to just one thing (i.e. veg is just fibre etc) makes me question her education.
I have to be careful with Abbey’s content. I don’t subscribe, and only watch her videos when I’m in the right mental headspace. She has helped me look at a meal and figure out how to make it more satisfying. Also, as a cattle rancher, her lack of true knowledge of beef and the beef cattle industry bugs me.
I think that the conversation around mental health medication is so nuanced I think it is best reserved for discussions with your medical professional ( preferably a psychiatrist) and not a UA-camr.
Abbey bothers me immensely by the way she states everything as though it's fact. There's a lot of disagreement, grey areas, and epistemic constraints we have in food science and "health" in general. She talks as though she has zero awareness of that.
Personally I found that quitting UPF did wonders for my mental health. Before that I kinda went on BPD “rampages” that made things difficult for the people around me. At some point I quit UPF because of a miscarriage and my PCOS because I knew I needed to improve my physical health. The weird unexpected happy side affect has been that my anxiety has dissipated and I can’t remember my last BPD episode. Then I read in Chris van tulleken’s book UPF people about how upf destroys gut microbiome and mice with a compromised gut have MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES like ANXIETY. That was my lightbulb moment. The only thing I disagree with Liz on is the excessive amounts of supplements she’s taking. Nutrients exist in a context and she’d be better off just eating those foods
At first I liked her reviews of other content as a way to navigate the field of different health opinions on youtube. But over time I found a very ideological tone to her posts with a need to stamp out any diversity of opinions. The subtle way she dismisses or ignores people who do not follow her religious adherence to her ideology has not been lost by me. And while her use of scientific studies to make her case is refreshing it is also dangerous when it gets abused to influence people in the wrong ways. I know some of her critics come off as pretty loony and irrational but one thing Ive come to agree with is she spends alot of energy making excuses for the worst corporate interests in the food business and that was the ultimate deal breaker for me. And while I havent actually unsubscribed I kind of avoid her content like the plague now.
I don't really have any big issues with Abby. Do I agree with everything Abby says; NO ... but I don't have any big issues with her. I just "agree to disagree"... we all have our own journey and experience, she's just sharing her ... I don't expect to agree with everything she says and does... a lot of her information can be good/useful, as you said. Thank you for the video.
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I’ve only seen one of her videos and I ABSOLUTELY felt that energy….Just put me off and I had to step back and ask myself again if her information was on point, regardless.
Abbey like other social media influencers had an eating disorder and she went into diet and nutrition which only feeds her disorder. She says a good message but she is very thin, too thin to actually follow her own advice. I think she's lying 🤥
I think a really good analogy to think about "intuitive eating" which Abby promotes as the only way to be healthy is looking at newborns who clearly haven't been affected by diet culture but still want to eat for other reasons. Reflux ? They want to eat. Tired? They want to eat. Need comfort? They want to eat. Wind ? Humans aren't great at tapping into our hunger cues. Throw an eating disorder or hormonal imbalance or metabolic disorder then it's 100 x harder. I think loosely tracking by far has been the most effective way of managing my health & food intake.
I personally find her content helpful, there is so much damaging food content disguised as good advise that someone out there who is trying to sort through all that information to give informed, professional advise a welcome voice. She has her own issues after all she is someone who has had an eating disoder in the past so she wont be perfect all the time. The main issue is she has never been fat, she doesnt have to try at all to stay at the weight she is at and maybe she doesnt have advice for someone trying to loose weight and doing eat healthily. But failing to point out that there are a lot of toxic infuluencers who need to be called out by someone is i think the main issue abbey sharp critics fail to notice.
I feel Abbey is more insidious as she uses her dietician title as a way to forward her own biases. She is sometimes evidance based, but a lot of it is fluff and personal opinion and she mixes between it all fairly willy nilly.
I don’t know, Harry. I think there is a difference between letting emotion *drive* an argument and expressing emotions *about* a topic. I also think it is important to be careful in our evaluation of that when it comes to women because they are often written off when they express any emotions, particularly anger (even though it is a normal human emotion). Is she problematic because of her presentation of information? Eh. Seems like more of a personal preference from what I’ve seen. Is she problematic because of her content? Possibly.
Yes, thank you 🙏 this exactly. We call men assertive and strong, whereas women are called emotional. It is totally ok to use emotion as a driver/fuel to address a point (especially if these have societal weight), as long as it does not blur your view. It may even be sign of emotional maturity when you can balance it well, whereas avoiding emotion completely can be a safe but less emotional mature way to communicate.
I think regardless of gender, letting emotion drive an argument isn’t an effective means of communicating. If a man is communicating with me and gets hyper-emotional about the topic, I don’t see this as strong or assertive but sometimes perhaps aggressive which can cloud judgment. Note: there is a difference between getting emotional versus letting emotion drive your argument - this is something I’ve recently been taught during DBT, not letting our ‘emotional mind’ power our views as this is often where breakdown can occur. It’s not about avoiding anything completely, but simply not allowing emotion to be the primary driver and this applies to all genders.
As someone who also has BPD, GAD and PTSD im prescribed pretty high doses of both quetiapine and mirtazapine but it has never made an impact for my mental health personally, i manage my own mental health through exercise, diet and yoga. I understand some people need medication and thats perfectly fine, mental health should be approched in the correct manner and Abbey definitely could have presented this video more appropriately. As always Harry luv ya 😘
I honestly don’t see that with Abbey’s facial expressions, I 💯 don’t follow her to the tee (honestly I do disagree with things she says) but comments about her facial expressions . Why is a female coming off strong being called emotional? Like why is a woman being forceful or strong emotional? I do really appreciate you Harry and you message be one thing we should be really careful is to mistake coming of strong and powerful as being emotional.
I have been an Abbey fan for some time now and still follow her. I have noticed a trend to what you describe as more Clickbait behavior. My preference is when her content is geared to how to be balanced, and mindful with your eating. Her angle used to be more “where are the opportunities for this content creator to have a more balanced approach to eating” to a much more critical approach that feels condescending and sometimes mean. So while I do still follow her, I have found myself clicking off videos, midway. For what it’s worth I also followed Liz. I do not anymore - I also have an ED history And I feel her discussions around her nutrition and diet don’t feel particularly healthy. Especially as she insists how healthy they are. As for these mini back-and-forth video “wars” I find them more annoying than anything. Just my 2 cents. 🤷🏼♀️
Yeah her obsession with making EVERY MEAL BALANCED made me develop a brief stint of orthorexia for fear of staving off binge eating. Also she called a 1390 cal day of eating a "starvation diet" when that is my calculated sedentary tdee
I have watched a lot of Liz’s videos before the reactions to her diet. To my recollection, she bad talked about medication and energy much before Abby made her video. I don’t think her comment was intended to be targeted towards Abby in a derogatory way. I also have experience with a medication that did negatively affect me, if I could do it over again I would rather be unmedicated than have to go through what I went through. So I understand why Liz, if she has more energy and is feeling better, would prefer to not be on whatever medications she was on. However, at the same time I don’t think Liz’s apology was sufficient. She never actually fully addressed Abbey (perhaps this could be for legal reason, I’ve seen it said that sometimes an apology can be seen as an admission of guilt) and I think there could have been more she could’ve said about the genuine hurt Abbey experienced, whether or not Liz fully understood it or interpreted it the same way. Both Liz and Abbey have said/done things people could consider contradictory or harmful, for example Abbey’s video on staying the same weight or Liz speaking on Amish farms or unpasteurized milk
Abbey is such a mixed bag. Some of her content is great, and I support anyone choosing to take any medications their doctor recommenda that help them function. But I ultimately can't follow her channel because her dangerous lies that oppose current medical literature (weight management, PCOS, etc) make me too frustrated.
I am pretty suspicious of people who want to fix everything with diet. But it's hard to tell how much it helps for me I have noticed feeling mentally better when I eat better, but I don't choose to eat well when I am mentally doing very poorly and being able to eat well is a sign that I am coming out of it. So it's a bit chicken/egg
I will never trust anybody that holds a certificate from any governing council on diet-they’re way too shady. Big example is how the American academy of dietetics holds stock in Kellogg’s and General Mills. These big food companies also sponsor re-certification courses for their dietitians. These same dietitians then have the gall to tell their audiences that they have a mental problem if they cannot enjoy addictive foods in moderation and want to avoid those addictive foods.
It is Abbey's petulant commentaries on how others eat and the fact that she comes from a place of always being right. We live in a glass ceiling world, and now it is her turn to be scrutinized.
I do enjoy some of Abby Sharp's content, but I started disliking how she would shame or put in little digs at anyone consuming food any other way than intuitive. Her nutrition advice is good sometimes, but she does not dig deep enough if she wants her content to be backed by science. She is cherry-picking what research she wants to use and ignoring other long-term studies detailing successful and nutritional diets/lifestyles that actually work for people struggling with weight and mental health. Nothing against her age, or her youth, but she seems unaware that we all change as we grow older and sometimes that means our diets and lifestyles need to adapt to our changing bodies. I also found her "hunger-crushing combos", although they may work for her and others, they were far too high in sugar and carbs for me to maintain a healthy weight, feel good, and function with energy. With Abby's content, I do believe her behavior and attitude are part of how she chooses to get her messages out. For some people, it works great, but I found it off-putting. We are all unique human beings and should not be shamed when we have found ways of eating healthy that work for us. I think it is wonderful that she is willing to be so open and vulnerable about her health battles, and I think her struggles shared can help a lot of people. For me, I pick and choose what videos I watch of her's because she is rather "triggering". Thank you for your video.
There is danger in being black and white about medication. Used appropriately and precribed with careful consideration medication can be of great help for some people. No one should be shamed for needing it or finding it helpful and no one should be judged for their choice not to use it.
The next person who tells that stopping sugar ( how do you even do that? How would my biochemistry work?) will cure the cancer I have will get a verbal punch in the face.
For the most part, I agree with Abbey's content but her presentation seems abrasive for someone like me who has generalized anxiety disorder. Creators who deliver in a yelling, click-baity type communication will increasingly receive my gracious unsubscribing.
I find that Abbey lacks empathy in many of her videos. It also feels like she is shaming whoever she is covering’s diet and sometimes lifestyle. Like there is no way in hell that someone whose profession is for example either a ballet dancer or a model, will and should have the same diet as the girl next door. These people have chosen to do what they do, they enjoy it and have worked very hard to get to the point they are at. And to me if just feels disrespectful. I would appreciate it if Abbey would always disclose and remind the audience ”These tips are based on the general recommended daily allowance etc. and I am only making generalizations. Person X has this job/hobby which is why they may have to eat in a certain way.”
So we should not speak about the prevelance of e.d.s in ballet dancers or how other industries promote unhealthy relationships with food (modelling) even if ppl work hard in these fields?
Not to be insensitive, but you were really diagnosed with DID? I have so many questions. From what I understand that’s an incredibly rare and controversial diagnosis. I would imagine that affects your life a lot.
She’s just a walking advertisement for the meat industry. That’s all she seems to care about is proteins and intuitive eating completely ignoring most micronutrients.
She overwhelming hits me as a "PC" nutritionist. Very , eat what makes you happy, counting is probably bad, etc. I think Abby was not being "pill shamed". I'm not sure if Liz thinks Abby has her exact same problems meaning Abby would not need her meds if she made the same changes. It seemed to me more like she was saying "I'm off my meds now from my diet and I feel better now than when I was on a diet similar to yours, and I wont take your advice because of that". Abby made the first video about Liz's diet not being good, so Liz responded. Abby did not show support for what Liz was doing but when Liz expressed not supporting Abby, now we have this huge problem. I think you could stretch it to see that she was being shamed for treating her problems with medications, but to me it seemed more like Liz was saying she was doing this because she was seeing results. Abby also seems to follow the school of thought that possibly doing something that someone else might abuse, such as calorie counting, is therefore harmful to talk about in public spaces.
She very much tries to please both sides of the spectrum in terms of fat acceptance rhetoric vs health extremists, maybe not all the time but she often will contradict herself. People in fat acceptance like her cause she criticizes skinny celebrities and models diets and then she also talks about health, mental health which attracts a different audience. Now I havent watched a lot of her videos, but she feels wishy washy and doesnt want to address real issues. Like does she have any issues talking about how harmful fat acceptance rhetoric can be? That fat influencers are passing away?
Liz is like Abbey with the condescension..funny how neither of them like each other haha. Abbey is the same in her videos with the fake politeness with the hint of shade, like Liz when she's addressing the 'controversy' or glorifying her butter diet. Both seem to think they're better than everyone while trying to come off as innocent and humble, very strange
I have watched Abbey for years. Before even her heavy HAES days when it was food science and skits. I've watched her evolution. I don't personally find her content problematic for me especially in the context of watching her for years, but I have found I do not enjoy her videos much anymore. I find myself starting and stopping more videos than watching all the way through. I think some of her "sass" comes across as mean now. Witty science jokes seem to now be a little more personal. I get why people find her content triggering or iffy. I think Liz took a lot of low blows at Abbey that were unfair.
I completely understand where you are coming from regarding Abby. However, her hunger crushing completely changed my life. Since then I haven’t binged.
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Gosh. I can’t imagine being on those medications all at once and THEN going cold turkey. I was on Clonazepam and decided it simply wasn’t working anymore and possibly wouldn’t need it, after years of therapy and other personal choices. That was a huge mistake. I dealt with the decency my body had except the seizures that I cluelessly had no idea about. It’s rough. It’s amazing you’ve got to what seems to be a better point.
On a different note, I’ve always been far more underweight for my size. It’s incredibly frustrating as my doctors has always said I’m healthy in all areas but I simply would like to build more muscle and weight. Being almost 40 and still fitting into youth clothing is frustrating since they don’t match my personal style. Obviously 😂. I wonder if there’s options you have for someone in my state. Thanks so much!
As someone with PCOS it drove me crazy when she did a whole video talking about how important intuitive eating can be for PCOS. But that’s harmful because 95% of people with PCOS have insulin resistance, which means our appetites and satiety cues don’t work particularly well. When we listen to our bodies so many of us overeat and have too much sugar and carbs, and not enough of other foods we need to eat more of. Her approach could literally make some of us sicker. Especially because our Insulin resistance begets itself if left untreated. Intuitive eating works for some of us, but it’s more likely to backfire.
Furthermore intuitive eating is really challenging to do safely for people with conditions like depression, anxiety and ADHD, which is something I never see her acknowledge.
Even for people who don’t have PCOS, not everyone’s body works well enough to support healthy intuitive eating and it drives me nuts how hard she used to push it. It’s kinda ableist of her to insist that intuitive eating is the “right” way to approach diet.
Funnily enough she seems to have refrained from pushing intuitive eating lately and instead now is hypercritical of other people’s diets when they aren’t “balanced” enough. Even if they are just eating intuitively and don’t need every meal to feature one of her “hunger crushing combos”.
I also felt like her video on glucose goddess was FULL of misleading takes and bad faith interpretations, and gave me the impression that she is catering her advice very specifically to people who have a disordered relationship with food. So even when she presents the science she isn’t doing a very faithful job, and her tendency to overcorrect against restrictive tendencies can be very exclusionary, confusing or stigmatizing for people who need to restrict certain foods for medical reasons.
With Abby you just can’t win. Her perfectionistic tendencies, snark, and reliance on absolutes is not only annoying but potentially harmful.
❤your comment is gold!
Tried intuitive eating and was constantly spiraling into binge eating. It did not work for me, what worked for me was fasting. I managed to regulate my eating schedule and now have a much healthier relationship with food.
I guess different strategies help different people
@@yara-um6tx my experience has been the same. I’ll intuitively eat myself into morbid obesity 🤣😅 intermittent fasting and fasting in general really help me have more control
@@belove751 honestly, me too. I was desperately looking for help to manage my eating habits and the intuitive eating sounded too good to be true, and it was 😂. I think intuitive eaters don’t understand the feeling of having a gaping black hole for a stomach.
Wow. That’s really helpful to know about PCOS. I have suspected pCOS and have been trying to intuitively eat but I also have ADHD and I find I over eat and only crave foods I would be better off watching much more closely and limiting.
For me the big issue with Abbey is that she seems as though her perspective is that of a neutral source of scientific information because she’s a dietician, but she is actually approaching my her content from the emotional angle of a person who is still actively recovering from an eating disorder. She claims she is recovered, but it doesn’t seem like it given her line of work and her sensitivity to diet culture rhetoric, and that cognitive dissonance is a big reason why her content is probably well intentioned but ultimately pretty harmful.
Amen.
I don't even think it is well intentioned. She has admitted to intentionally using full body bikini shots of influencers/celebs in her thumbnails because it gets clicks despite knowing that it is triggering for a large percentage of her audience. When her viewers said her "I lost weight on vacation" video was triggering, she said that it was "good" people were triggered because that forces them to have a conversation about it. Abbey is no position to decide what is best for a complete stranger's mental health. She knows what she's doing and she doesn't care as long as she's getting that coin.
@@B_27 fair enough.
Abbey’s stuff is so hit and miss. I personally find it grating when evaluating some celebrity’s food choices she says “you do you” and then spends the rest of her video explaining how the “you” in question is completely wrong and needs to be called out!🤦♀️ Can’t have it both ways.
Not to mention her sponsors. If someone eats cliff bars it's diet culture but when she gets a slice of the coin it's "an easy on the go snack"
Why can’t you have it both ways
@@louisachalarca6494 Mainly because when Abbey says “you do you” she is saying that the person’s decisions are their own and the consequences are for them to live with (so who am I to criticise them?). Immediately followed by “now watch me criticise them”.
Precisely, she turns a blind eye to celebrities, bu then she goes nuclear over the regular folk
fr, she always wants to make a drama out of it, like leave people alone, she says they are a bad example when she criticizes people
I think Abbey's overdramatic facial expressions and demeanour come from her background in theatre.
The thing I find with her sometimes is she can be very condescending in the way she speaks to her audience. I really didn't like the remarks she made to ObesetoBeast, he replied and said he felt stupid when she implied he couldn't understand the article on body positivity because he wasn't "educated". She did apologise to be fair, but she tends to act very holier than thou with her "science" background.
Yep condescending is exactly how I have described her. I did not realise she had a theatre background, this also fits with my perception of her. From coming across her years ago, I always felt she was acting, not quite real. She never has felt authentic with having a real and solid knowledge of health issues. I felt she was a plant and I have also felt this about Thomas deLauer.
As someone with experience in the eating disorder world and the psychology world, she is a parade of red flags.
Such as?
Can you explain what are the red flags? I feel that watching her content doesn't do me good, but I don't know why.
Can you clarify? I've seen so many different opinions on her that I honestly don't know if I should be watching her not. She might not personally trigger my ED, but I'm afraid I'm unconsciously absorbing a problematic and toxic world-view, you know what I mean?
One thing comes to mind is that she *says* intuitive eating is the way for everyone, but then analyses WIEIAD videos, mostly from women and nitpicks their diet. Even if they do eat balanced she often says that there are better ways. Which is not "intuitive eating", because in the moment I have to look up macros and find alternatives to food I like I do not eat intuitively. On another hand she says she had an ED (orthorexia) and overcome it. But the way she analyses the food choices of other people put that one to doubt. She also applauses the eating habits of severe overweight people while being harsh on normal weight or lean content creators (which do make her a bit of a hypocrite). Next thing is in older videos she basically said being overweight or normal weight or underweight isn't a choice, it's fate, so even if you want to change it, it doesn't work. If you put all of this together she is a red flag for everyone with an ED or on the way out of an ed, because she is hypercritical, says one thing, does another and applauses the HAES people while every semi fit person get's a "you should eat intuitively, but not like that!"@@curlychapina
@@BlackIceDragonSalometo be fair, if I have to intuitively eat right now, I'm going to stuff my face with fats and carbs, it is entirely possible for someone to be in the habit of intuitively eating less healthy and less balanced meals...her intent in those videos is to educate on how to construct better balanced meals. This being said, I'm not against or for Abby, I understand some of the backlash about her tone, especially in her earlier videos a couple of years ago, I think she's taken massive strides to try and improve that, even if she's not getting it right 100% of the time. She's just human like the rest of us
I used to watch Abbey a lot but I unsubscribed sometime this year for multiple reasons. The main reason was that I just no longer enjoyed her content, I had no interest in watching her new videos. Another reason is I felt like she was shaming people who want and try to eat healthy and don't want to become obese. You don't have disordered eating if you want to eat a salad or if you don't want to eat ice cream and peanut butter every day. As someone who has had to watch people I love eat them selves close to death I try very hard to stay healthy and I don't like to feel shamed for doing that. She also comes across as a huge Pick Me and it's just off putting to me now. It's a shame because I've found some really good tips on her chanel to make my meals more nutritious but I just couldn't anymore with her..
I also noticed since watching her content for a few years, that I feel that it is not okay or even "disordered" that I like to eat vegetables with every meal, and I prefer my whole foods instead of ultraprocessed foods.
I find this very interesting. I have consumed Abbey's content for years and I've never felt like wanting to make good balanced choices was demonized. Just goes to show that we all hear and take away different things. HOWEVER, I 1000000% agree with the "pick me" energy or "not like the rest of the girls" even when she took more of a balanced approach and wasn't straight HAES. I've definitely slowed down my consumption of her content. I watch a video here or there that sounds interesting or more educational than review. I miss her old educational plus skit content from way back in the day. I just want the facts and the science. Seems to be way more sass now a days than science.
Same, I enjoyed a lot of her content for a while but it seems like it's taken a weird turn the last few months. I had to unsubscribe because I just didn't enjoy it anymore. But the criticism from that lady about her taking pharmaceuticals is so uncalled for.
Especially since she very clearly ears healthy and is careful with her weight. She's just pandering to fat activists. Pandering is gross.
I think sometimes it’s OK to just eat or watch someone for recipe inspirations… I’m sick of analysing foods and recipe ingredients….
I found a lot of what Abbey said concerning restrictive eating very helpful at first in my own journey away from it. Then I saw a video where she described how to stay at a "set weight" point titled "I've stayed the same weight since my 20s". What I disliked about that video was how Abbey was claiming 5lbs was the parameter of fluctuation, which I think could be true but may also be unfair to different heights and builds. Her use of words like "my body just goes back to the EXACT same weight" is troubling to me since she is someone who is supposedly sensitive to eating disorder language. I think she's a mixed bag of good and bad advice, basically, but that was a red flag for me and I've found other sources who speak in less triggering ways. I love Team For Never Lean! I also recommend What Mia Did Next for Ed curiosity and recovery.
My problem with the”same weight” video was that she’s under 40. Metabolism is slower when over 40.
My personal issue with Abbey Sharp is that the videos of hers that I have seen where she is giving nutritional information are sponsored by a particular food brand that specializes in the food she is promoting. As someone who is taking a college degree with an area of focus in nutrition, these sponsorships lowers her credibility because she is financially benefiting from saying "___ is healthy," which I have learned in my college classes indicates a bias and causes a source to be less credible. Viewers automatically trust what she says because she advertises herself as a certified nutritionist, so a lot of people forget to check for potential biases and trust her without researching further.
Also, she does not provide links to the sources she uses and expects a screenshot of the source title to be enough to back her claims, which is controlling the information people have access to and is also boarders on plagiarism, which is a serious academic and scholarly crime. I've seen other people put links/references in their videos before, so I know it is not impossible for her to do so.
I actually think her advertisments are not problematic in that way, they're just annoying. She doesn't really have a "___ is healthy, so you should buy it" approach to her food advertisements. I actually think she's against labeling any specific food as healthy (and doesn't speak against any particular food unless it's a fad diet item), and prefers to allow all food as a component to a diet that emphasizes protein, fiber, and fat for fullness. And most of the time, she not doing food sponserships anyways, she gets most sponserships from clothing brands, sleep brands, toiletries brands, cleaning services, phone games, etc...
Also, she usually does put the links to her sources in the description for her sources. I check them when I watch her videos. That's not the problem with her sources though. The problem is that what she says about her sources, and what the sources actually say, don't always match. Or the sources weren't relevant enough to the topic at hand to use them.
@@frozenraspberries1552 I 100% agree, and I am glad she at least started to put links in her sourced (I used to watch her 3 years ago and I don't remember her putting sourced in her description), but it is sad that she is not being completely honest about what her sources say verses the advice she gives, which is also a bit dishonest in the academic/research sense as well as in daily life. It is also good that she doesnt take too many food sponserships. It was actually kinda funny because I am taking a college nutrition class and mu teacher used her video about potato myths as a form of misinformation solely because she was sponsored by a French fry company, which means that she has to make potatoes look probably better because of the sponsorship (which I love potatoes and believe that they are healthy, but I would trust someone to be more honest if they didn't have a special monetary interest in the subject). It really saddens me that Abbey is giving these confusing messages based solely on her beliefs while cherry picking scholarly sources and not actually giving the information in these sources correctly. Health and nutrition literacy is already huge issue in many places in the world which means that she has a platform that would allow her to do so much good by translating scholarly findings in order for everyone, but instead makes things more confusing for those who do not know much about nutrition through sources that don't match what she is saying.
I unsubbed from her because hearing someone who's supposed to be a licensed professional basically deny that weight has *anything* to do with health got a bit too much. I always feel like she's never truly recovered and projects that fact hard in her videos. (Also, why does she talk to us like we're all idiots lol, is this an audience retention thing?)
She's pandering to the fat activists.
Just a side note from watching this video, I find conflating neurodiversity - adhd, autism etc as ‘mental health’ is also lumping things together and still stigmatising misinformation. Yes they totally affect your mental health, but they are not problems to be fixed in of themselves. I have adhd and have struggled with anxiety and depression my whole life, my adhd is just how my brain functions whereas my mental health fluctuates and is dependant on other factors.
Well said! My OCD is my mental health & is a rollercoaster of a journey. My ADHD is just my brain and I’ve learned to embrace it rather than work against it.
It’s a neurological condition, you can still work on it the way you would with mental health, you can still minimize symptoms as well as build skills and tools. I have a disability studies diploma and also have ADHD, it’s more than “just how my brain works nothing I can do about it “. That’s false, you can absolutely work on it the way you would with mental health.
@@Salma-yo6nsit’s not “working against it “ lol. You shouldn’t “embrace” a neurological condition. I also have it as well as Agoraphobia and bpd. I can STILL work on minimizing my ADHD symptoms as they can be debilitating. Same with someone who is Autistic , there are still lifestyle changes you can make to help ease the symptoms and not have it impact your life as much.
@@Salma-yo6nsI mean accept it for sure ! But saying embrace it and doing nothing about it . Seems a little odd, ADHD effects your relationships a lot. I lose a friend for a year due to both of our ADHD’s, once we both got help for our ADHD and actually working on it through therapy, we are able to be friends again ! So yeah I defs not “embrace” it like that
My issue with Abby is that I heard her state in a video that he finished her university degree and knew that she did want want to do clinical practice. She began making youtube content instead. So, she has zero clinical experience. Simply completing a degree does not make you an expert. Applying newly learned knowledge in a clinical setting and gaining hands on experience does.
As someone with an ED history and a nutrition degree, I find her content problematic. She contradicts herself left and right and is insensitive and unprofessional in her delivery of her content.
Same.
Won't go into too much detail as it's something I say a lot, but always proud of you for your own openness with mental health and medication use, it really does say a lot about you and helps others more than you'll ever know.
I agree with your take on how content creators present information can negatively impact how it's received, although presenting stuff in a manner that could be seen as "too analytical/dry" without any passion behind it can put others off as well, so I believe there are circumstances where a balance can be worked towards.
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I completely understand why some people don’t like abbey but I personally find that her content makes me often feel better about myself not being perfect with my diet. I used to try to follow very strict diets and quit once I caved in and had some “bad food” and being disappointed in myself but i feel like I learn through her that sometimes it’s okay to eat a little more or have a snack when you’re craving it and maybe just choose a healthier option to snack on.
Same
I find that Abbey lacks empathy in many of her videos. It also feels like she is shaming whoever she is covering’s diet and sometimes lifestyle. Like there is no way in hell that someone whose profession is for example either a ballet dancer or a model, will and should have the same diet as the girl next door. These people have chosen to do what they do, they enjoy it and have worked very hard to get to the point they are at. And to me if just feels disrespectful. I would appreciate it if Abbey would always disclose and remind the audience ”These tips are based on the general recommended daily allowance etc. and I am only making generalizations. Person X has this job/hobby which is why they may have to eat in a certain way.”
She's a HAES-advocate. That's enough for me to not really want to support her 😅
I like a lot of her older contents, overall they are calm and agreeable. These days I feel she could be overly emotional/critical when reviewing someone's daily diet - while still trying to promote "you do you" / intuitive diet
@@kristelbrok998because as I’m fat and athletic you know I’m not healthy
I’m not sure about Liz’s video, but this left out that abbey has ADHD and that was a huge part of her seeking medication. If Liz insinuated that diet can cure adhd that should be seen as extremely problematic. For anyone who doesn’t know, adhd is neurological, it’s low levels of certain neurotransmitters. Medication is the current gold standard for treatment. A lot of the conversation and/or debate surrounding Abbey I feel like would really benefit from including adhd and how that looks in women vs men and societal pressures, etc. As always Harry was lovely and handled such a sensitive topic with grace and let each woman have her opinion and dignity💕
Of course diet can help, our food affects every cell of the body including the brain so there is nothing wrong with suggesting that diet can help alleviate symptoms of adhd
I honestly feel like Liz going after Abbey's medication-use is a low blow.
I'm on Quetiapin too, currently, and we're looking into a mood-stabilizer too, because i've gone through a very high high, and am currently in a horrid low. Pills can be necessary, and if those 25 mg of Quetiapin means i can actually sleep and function the next day, why wouldnt i be taking them??? 🤷🏻♀️ i've always told anti-med people that i'll happily stop on those pills, as long as they are living with me while i do so. I lasted a week last time i tried stopping, and i was miserable. Fell asleep at 4-5 in the morning, woke at 9 at latest, was crying at the drop of a hat, and stuck on the couch because everything was overwhelming and too draining 🥴
Abbey went after Liz first, Liz was just responding to the very harsh video that Abbey did of her
@@yummysushipyjamasso calling pills for anxiety as addicting to pills is okay
@louisachalarca6494 but that's not what she said. She never said she was addicted to them. She used the word dependency, which if you are taking something for whatever reason is dependent on it. It doesn't make it a bad term. For someone who wants to break the stigma getting hung up on small words like that is not helping. It's like when people get upset with the word diet. Diet is not a bad word but what people associate it with. Diet is very literally what you eat everyday. That's why your doctor asks what is your diet looking like? It's very literal. Liz meant it as you're relying on medication which is great for her but not for Liz.
Abbey as a professional should learn not take personal remarks like this as being in the nutrition field people are extremely sensitive. She as the professional came off extremely judgmental then ran and cried victim over analyzing one word.
As always, I appreciate you doing your best to have empathy but also give kind criticism, I admire you! You inspire me :)
I don't follow Abbey. I just see what you review. I was not a fan of meds for years. I thought diet and exercise should be enough. This was before I was diagnosed with a few mental health disorders. I now take meds and go to therapy. I'll be honest the meds help me but... I'm also afraid of being on them for the rest of my life. Youre right Harry, no cures for mental disorders, just lifetime management. I'm with you on your journey. Hope you are having a good one!
Harry I love your content and I know you struggle with mental health like myself and may overanalyze how you come across to others. What I can say is you're kind and share a point of view that's non bias for a majority of your takes. Give yourself some grace regardless of what a few people say. I appreciate the opinion of not feeding your issues by continuing to watch creators harming yourself. Thank you for all that you do. I love watching your videos and they and you have a positive impact on my life. So thanks for the bibs and bobs and the guides, and answering any questions I have just through insta ! Thanks again and I hope you're doing better.
Unbiased and balanced opinions like yours are exactly what we need in this discussion!! Great video
I could never get into her content. To me, she comes off as a mean girl. I also don't have an eating disorder and never have. I just find her critiquing of others food choices out of line. But again, I've never had an eating disorder and I don't know how that may impact others watching her content. I just don't like her attitude and coming off as if she knows best. I feel like everyone is different and have different needs, and that should be taken into account when you're giving advice on nutrition. I just don't see that from her.
The happy dance I did in the gym when I saw this upload though.. thanks Harold 😂
I have a few thoughts…
I am 50/50 on Abbey - I agree she can be a bit condescending but she does also offer some helpful advice.
Shaming people for their mental health problems is absolutely abhorrent and we should be allowing others to have a safe space to discuss how they are feeling and struggles they are facing.
In my experience medication can and does help SOME people - but absolutely not as the sole method of treatment and should always be prescribed responsibly.
All in all, another great video from you Harry and I will always appreciate the way you show a multitude of perspectives.
Also - 15/10 coach highly recommend if you have been thinking about it ♥️
I've had to accept that my 2 diagnoses will never be cured. I am hoping I can manage my symptoms. This is currently not the case, but I have gotten better before and hoping that can happen again
I also have fibromyalgia, and although diet definitely helps, it will never make it completely go away. I find youtube shorts that say a certain diet (or any specific thing) will take away chronic pain or mental health disorder, very discouraging. Although it could help, it's not that easy
Same! I have also struggled with fibromyalgia for years
I appreciate Abby Sharp being honest about her mental health & how meds have helped her
i appreciate your content and have a lot of respect for you sharing your experience with mental health and your stance on medication. if you ever chose to work in the health care field or hold a therapist role, I think you would be very well matched. for context, i work in mental health and find your videos very refreshing in that your content isn't too sterilized and your advice on fitness is evidence based.
I wouldn't care as much if she wasn't an actual dietitian. Not sure what it is like in other countries, but in Canada a dietitian is a legally protected term. You can't just call yourself one. And she hides behind the label and uses it to discredit others. While seeing everything through her very limited view of why someone may eat a certain way
Yeah, it's clear she hasn't actually treated anyone in years.
I appreciate you reminding every time that we don’t need to watch content if it’s not helpful. Abbey’s content was definitely triggering for me. But as many other people I continued to watch all kinds of triggering things. It takes time and introspection to change one’s attitude. I don’t try anymore to watch whole video from creator I want to support. Sometimes I leave it running and go to the other room. Sometimes just finish midway. Thank you and other creators - I’ve learned a lot 😊
For people struggling with extreme orthorexia or getting out of EDs, Abbey's content is really comforting and helpful, but the way she demonizes clean eaters or people who do certain eating styles is not reasonable to me. Shaming people for eating sweets is bad, but shaming bodybuilders or models is just as bad. The majority of obese people do consume too many calories and low nutrition food etc and sometimes I feel like Abbey is portraying it as if being obese is something happening for external reasons or just genetic predisposition. And obesity is still different from not being a size 2, you can't equal reasons for both. Her intuitive eating approach and the way she raises her kid are great though!
Appreciate these talks..the idea of medication is scary, and no one can tell how it might impact them, because we are all different.
Absolutely!
yeah medication ruined my life lol. im sure the same one works for many though
Congrats on 70k! So proud of you! 🥰
“Live life on expert difficulty, why not”😂
I laughed at that one. I say that all the time.
I sometimes say I am on European Extreme mode as a little inside joke from when I played Metal Gear Solid 2, but I realize it sounds a bit WTF if you don't know that it's from a game.
Swolenormous is another one who I’ve been super split on. A lot of what he says is very conducive to health and longevity, but he has let emotion and holier-than-thou stance devalue his content because you can’t help but feel like he just thinks he’s better than people who don’t live up to his standards.
harry’s level-headedness inspires me to calm down, think & THEN react.
I think we must not stigmatize taking mental health Medication. This could help diminish the amount of people on the streets or in Prison who are self medicating through street drugs instead of taking medication that can help them manage their lives if they suffer from Depression, Bipolar & Schizophrenia! When people who suffer from schizophrenia take their medication they can live functional lives! Many people whom we all know & work with who seem “normal” are actually taking medication for various mental health conditions & because in America we need to work 40+ hours to keep a roof over our heads the self help approach isn’t always acceptable to the Doctors, Nurses, lawyers, event coordinators, Teachers who have to still function regardless of their mental health & so being on medication absolutely helps them.
I really loved Abbey a while back and really appreciated her science-backed nutrition advice (as I am studying nutritional sciences myself). But I had to stop watching her as well. Some of her videos really rubbed me the wrong way. Giving nutrition advice is a very delicate thing because it's very personal. While one person may need to hear that one "bad" meal is no big deal and in fact you can eat everything you want if you can incorporate it well into your diet (lifestyle, not fad diet!) another person may need to hear that it is a-okay to cut certain foods if they absolutely derail your thoughts. It differs so much. Even without taking eating disorders into account. What is healthy and well for one person is not the best approach for the next. And I feel like Abbey's content is for only a certain subgroup of people without her ever acknowledging that. She acts as if everyone should eat how she sees fit. But I don't agree. (Also, she seems to think that everyone wants to eat sweets and junk food and talks about overly restricting themselves when she judges WIEIADs of fitness people but maybe they actually don't like sweets?)
I love your content, how honest you are with your struggles and open mindes with other's struggles as well.
I watch Abbey and find her to be very concerned about viewers and she gives wide-ranging trigger warnings for things that might bother a viewer.
I like her “imperfect” is perfect approach, her openness of her own struggles, and her embracing different issues/body sizes/disordered eating types and her ability to red flag things that fly in today’s culture.
I personally haven’t been adversely affected by her content, but I can understand that people might…if they don’t heed her trigger warnings.
Overall, big Abbey fan 👏
And, as always, a big Harry fan 👏👏👏
Some don't know what their triggers are and a lot of times it's not a trigger that a lot of people are complaining about, it's purely her condescending tone and how dismissive she can sound.
I used to feel this way about her, but her videos have changed recently. They're now hyperfocused on weight loss, body checking, and "unusual" diet tricks to get thinner. She seems to not care about triggering people anymore.
I stopped watching her videos last year because her style does not fit me - she is sometimes way to emotional and other times she tries to hard to be funny and it's not. So I just don't watch her, I don't hate on her, I don't make videos about her - I just moved on.
I have noticed this channel mostly targets women. The guy behind the channel denied it but I haven’t seen any video not talking about a specific woman. I like abbey sometimes but I do also see she can come across as a Karen. Her disliking paleo bothered me a bit, because with paleo you can still get carbs and such and plenty of protein, it’s just planning meals ahead. But I have become better watching her channel because I have a healthier view of food now. We can always strive to be healthier but we also shouldn’t beat ourselves up for eating a sugary snack if we want one. It’s all about balance. I try not to judge people’s diets. As long as they are doing their best to take care them of themselves that’s what matters
She is extra kind to larger bodies and obesity but thin and fit people always have to improve their diet or are orthorexic.
She doesn't want to get dragged by the obesity positivity crowd
I honestly don't min Abbey being driven by emotions. Food and body image are emotional topics. You can talk about objective facts till the cows come home but if we don't address how emotion plays into it, we're not looking at the whole picture. I understand her perspective. A lot of behaviors she challenges are very normalized. When she's critiquing someone's diet, she's talking about the mentality behind it. Someone eating a salad for lunch because they find it delicious and eating veggies makes them feel good is different from someone eating a salad because they think carbs are poison. Maybe that stuff doesn't come through in her short form content. In her long form content, she talks about the little comments that people make about what they're eating.
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This is such a great video! I am taking an anti-depressant....I have been going through a very stressful period of my life since 2018 and it just smashed me mentally/emotionally. I'm still going through it but it has vastly improved. Once I feel that things are in the rear view mirror, as they say, I'll talk to my doc about going off the medication. The thing is...one size does not fit all with regard to nutrition and mental health. Let's not shame people and tell them they are messing up their lives because they are not taking the path they think is right. But I interpreted Liz's response the same way as you did. It was somewhat shaming. She could have said "I just chose to go a different route and it went well for me". I don't follow Abbey enough to have an opinion of her but I didn't like that short you shared. This is super sauce Harry!!! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
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I stopped watching her vids when I saw her wear a shirt that said “Riots, not diets”. And this was around 2020 or 2021 during all the rioting in the US. That really pissed me off. It didn’t help that her frequent sponsor was an overly processed protein bar.
Abby reminds me of my ex psychiatrist (not even psychologist) who stepped out of her lane and told me I had an eating disorder because I gained a bunch of weight, wanted to better my health and was going to eat one burger for dinner instead of two.
I liked Abbey until one day, after seeing her pick apart some woman’s diet for the 50th time, that it actually doesn’t feel right for a professional in the medical world to be talking about specific people’s diets and putting their potential eating disorders on blast. Yes, talking broadly about health misinformation and disinformation is helpful, but I think it’s crossing a professional line to dive into specific people, even if they did make a WIEIAD. It still doesn’t sit right with me for a dietitian to call out and pass judgment someone’s possible disorder (or to suggest they have one when they might not) to her many followers.
This content, and the one on one training, enhances my life 😊
One of my main issues with her is her lack of nutritional information. Reducing foods down to just one thing (i.e. veg is just fibre etc) makes me question her education.
I have to be careful with Abbey’s content. I don’t subscribe, and only watch her videos when I’m in the right mental headspace. She has helped me look at a meal and figure out how to make it more satisfying. Also, as a cattle rancher, her lack of true knowledge of beef and the beef cattle industry bugs me.
I am not a cattle rancher, but I watch a lot of channels that give you an open view into their lives. Such as Iowa dairy farmer.
I think that the conversation around mental health medication is so nuanced I think it is best reserved for discussions with your medical professional ( preferably a psychiatrist) and not a UA-camr.
Abbey bothers me immensely by the way she states everything as though it's fact. There's a lot of disagreement, grey areas, and epistemic constraints we have in food science and "health" in general. She talks as though she has zero awareness of that.
Personally I found that quitting UPF did wonders for my mental health. Before that I kinda went on BPD “rampages” that made things difficult for the people around me. At some point I quit UPF because of a miscarriage and my PCOS because I knew I needed to improve my physical health. The weird unexpected happy side affect has been that my anxiety has dissipated and I can’t remember my last BPD episode. Then I read in Chris van tulleken’s book UPF people about how upf destroys gut microbiome and mice with a compromised gut have MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES like ANXIETY. That was my lightbulb moment. The only thing I disagree with Liz on is the excessive amounts of supplements she’s taking. Nutrients exist in a context and she’d be better off just eating those foods
At first I liked her reviews of other content as a way to navigate the field of different health opinions on youtube.
But over time I found a very ideological tone to her posts with a need to stamp out any diversity of opinions. The subtle way she dismisses or ignores people who do not follow her religious adherence to her ideology has not been lost by me. And while her use of scientific studies to make her case is refreshing it is also dangerous when it gets abused to influence people in the wrong ways.
I know some of her critics come off as pretty loony and irrational but one thing Ive come to agree with is she spends alot of energy making excuses for the worst corporate interests in the food business and that was the ultimate deal breaker for me. And while I havent actually unsubscribed I kind of avoid her content like the plague now.
I don't really have any big issues with Abby. Do I agree with everything Abby says; NO ... but I don't have any big issues with her. I just "agree to disagree"... we all have our own journey and experience, she's just sharing her ... I don't expect to agree with everything she says and does... a lot of her information can be good/useful, as you said. Thank you for the video.
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I take pregabalin for neuropathic pain caused by chemotherapy. I had tried it in there for triennial nerve pain, that didn’t help. But thankfully it helps now
Your mental health is valid and important ❤
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I’ve only seen one of her videos and I ABSOLUTELY felt that energy….Just put me off and I had to step back and ask myself again if her information was on point, regardless.
Abbey like other social media influencers had an eating disorder and she went into diet and nutrition which only feeds her disorder. She says a good message but she is very thin, too thin to actually follow her own advice. I think she's lying 🤥
I think a really good analogy to think about "intuitive eating" which Abby promotes as the only way to be healthy is looking at newborns who clearly haven't been affected by diet culture but still want to eat for other reasons. Reflux ? They want to eat. Tired? They want to eat. Need comfort? They want to eat. Wind ? Humans aren't great at tapping into our hunger cues. Throw an eating disorder or hormonal imbalance or metabolic disorder then it's 100 x harder. I think loosely tracking by far has been the most effective way of managing my health & food intake.
How does intuitive eating stop that
I’ve stopped my eating disorder through intuitive eating taught to me by my medical provider weird you know more than them
@@louisachalarca6494 Im allowed to have an opinion girl relax
I personally find her content helpful, there is so much damaging food content disguised as good advise that someone out there who is trying to sort through all that information to give informed, professional advise a welcome voice. She has her own issues after all she is someone who has had an eating disoder in the past so she wont be perfect all the time. The main issue is she has never been fat, she doesnt have to try at all to stay at the weight she is at and maybe she doesnt have advice for someone trying to loose weight and doing eat healthily. But failing to point out that there are a lot of toxic infuluencers who need to be called out by someone is i think the main issue abbey sharp critics fail to notice.
I feel Abbey is more insidious as she uses her dietician title as a way to forward her own biases. She is sometimes evidance based, but a lot of it is fluff and personal opinion and she mixes between it all fairly willy nilly.
I don’t know, Harry. I think there is a difference between letting emotion *drive* an argument and expressing emotions *about* a topic. I also think it is important to be careful in our evaluation of that when it comes to women because they are often written off when they express any emotions, particularly anger (even though it is a normal human emotion). Is she problematic because of her presentation of information? Eh. Seems like more of a personal preference from what I’ve seen. Is she problematic because of her content? Possibly.
Yes, thank you 🙏 this exactly. We call men assertive and strong, whereas women are called emotional. It is totally ok to use emotion as a driver/fuel to address a point (especially if these have societal weight), as long as it does not blur your view. It may even be sign of emotional maturity when you can balance it well, whereas avoiding emotion completely can be a safe but less emotional mature way to communicate.
I think regardless of gender, letting emotion drive an argument isn’t an effective means of communicating. If a man is communicating with me and gets hyper-emotional about the topic, I don’t see this as strong or assertive but sometimes perhaps aggressive which can cloud judgment. Note: there is a difference between getting emotional versus letting emotion drive your argument - this is something I’ve recently been taught during DBT, not letting our ‘emotional mind’ power our views as this is often where breakdown can occur. It’s not about avoiding anything completely, but simply not allowing emotion to be the primary driver and this applies to all genders.
I love Abbey, but can see how her content can be off putting to others. She works for me and has really helped me. Great video!!
As someone who also has BPD, GAD and PTSD im prescribed pretty high doses of both quetiapine and mirtazapine but it has never made an impact for my mental health personally, i manage my own mental health through exercise, diet and yoga. I understand some people need medication and thats perfectly fine, mental health should be approched in the correct manner and Abbey definitely could have presented this video more appropriately.
As always Harry luv ya 😘
I honestly don’t see that with Abbey’s facial expressions, I 💯 don’t follow her to the tee (honestly I do disagree with things she says) but comments about her facial expressions . Why is a female coming off strong being called emotional? Like why is a woman being forceful or strong emotional? I do really appreciate you Harry and you message be one thing we should be really careful is to mistake coming of strong and powerful as being emotional.
I have been an Abbey fan for some time now and still follow her. I have noticed a trend to what you describe as more Clickbait behavior. My preference is when her content is geared to how to be balanced, and mindful with your eating. Her angle used to be more “where are the opportunities for this content creator to have a more balanced approach to eating” to a much more critical approach that feels condescending and sometimes mean. So while I do still follow her, I have found myself clicking off videos, midway.
For what it’s worth I also followed Liz. I do not anymore - I also have an ED history And I feel her discussions around her nutrition and diet don’t feel particularly healthy. Especially as she insists how healthy they are.
As for these mini back-and-forth video “wars” I find them more annoying than anything.
Just my 2 cents. 🤷🏼♀️
Yeah her obsession with making EVERY MEAL BALANCED made me develop a brief stint of orthorexia for fear of staving off binge eating.
Also she called a 1390 cal day of eating a "starvation diet" when that is my calculated sedentary tdee
I have watched a lot of Liz’s videos before the reactions to her diet. To my recollection, she bad talked about medication and energy much before Abby made her video. I don’t think her comment was intended to be targeted towards Abby in a derogatory way. I also have experience with a medication that did negatively affect me, if I could do it over again I would rather be unmedicated than have to go through what I went through. So I understand why Liz, if she has more energy and is feeling better, would prefer to not be on whatever medications she was on. However, at the same time I don’t think Liz’s apology was sufficient. She never actually fully addressed Abbey (perhaps this could be for legal reason, I’ve seen it said that sometimes an apology can be seen as an admission of guilt) and I think there could have been more she could’ve said about the genuine hurt Abbey experienced, whether or not Liz fully understood it or interpreted it the same way. Both Liz and Abbey have said/done things people could consider contradictory or harmful, for example Abbey’s video on staying the same weight or Liz speaking on Amish farms or unpasteurized milk
I never get tired of “tickle your pickle”😂❤
Same!
I still can’t get over that she’s only 33. Chick looks 47
Abbey is such a mixed bag. Some of her content is great, and I support anyone choosing to take any medications their doctor recommenda that help them function. But I ultimately can't follow her channel because her dangerous lies that oppose current medical literature (weight management, PCOS, etc) make me too frustrated.
Love this!
I am pretty suspicious of people who want to fix everything with diet. But it's hard to tell how much it helps for me
I have noticed feeling mentally better when I eat better, but I don't choose to eat well when I am mentally doing very poorly and being able to eat well is a sign that I am coming out of it. So it's a bit chicken/egg
I will never trust anybody that holds a certificate from any governing council on diet-they’re way too shady. Big example is how the American academy of dietetics holds stock in Kellogg’s and General Mills. These big food companies also sponsor re-certification courses for their dietitians. These same dietitians then have the gall to tell their audiences that they have a mental problem if they cannot enjoy addictive foods in moderation and want to avoid those addictive foods.
It is Abbey's petulant commentaries on how others eat and the fact that she comes from a place of always being right. We live in a glass ceiling world, and now it is her turn to be scrutinized.
I do enjoy some of Abby Sharp's content, but I started disliking how she would shame or put in little digs at anyone consuming food any other way than intuitive. Her nutrition advice is good sometimes, but she does not dig deep enough if she wants her content to be backed by science. She is cherry-picking what research she wants to use and ignoring other long-term studies detailing successful and nutritional diets/lifestyles that actually work for people struggling with weight and mental health. Nothing against her age, or her youth, but she seems unaware that we all change as we grow older and sometimes that means our diets and lifestyles need to adapt to our changing bodies. I also found her "hunger-crushing combos", although they may work for her and others, they were far too high in sugar and carbs for me to maintain a healthy weight, feel good, and function with energy. With Abby's content, I do believe her behavior and attitude are part of how she chooses to get her messages out. For some people, it works great, but I found it off-putting. We are all unique human beings and should not be shamed when we have found ways of eating healthy that work for us. I think it is wonderful that she is willing to be so open and vulnerable about her health battles, and I think her struggles shared can help a lot of people. For me, I pick and choose what videos I watch of her's because she is rather "triggering". Thank you for your video.
There is danger in being black and white about medication. Used appropriately and precribed with careful consideration medication can be of great help for some people. No one should be shamed for needing it or finding it helpful and no one should be judged for their choice not to use it.
The next person who tells that stopping sugar ( how do you even do that? How would my biochemistry work?) will cure the cancer I have will get a verbal punch in the face.
For the most part, I agree with Abbey's content but her presentation seems abrasive for someone like me who has generalized anxiety disorder. Creators who deliver in a yelling, click-baity type communication will increasingly receive my gracious unsubscribing.
I find that Abbey lacks empathy in many of her videos. It also feels like she is shaming whoever she is covering’s diet and sometimes lifestyle. Like there is no way in hell that someone whose profession is for example either a ballet dancer or a model, will and should have the same diet as the girl next door. These people have chosen to do what they do, they enjoy it and have worked very hard to get to the point they are at. And to me if just feels disrespectful. I would appreciate it if Abbey would always disclose and remind the audience ”These tips are based on the general recommended daily allowance etc. and I am only making generalizations. Person X has this job/hobby which is why they may have to eat in a certain way.”
So we should not speak about the prevelance of e.d.s in ballet dancers or how other industries promote unhealthy relationships with food (modelling) even if ppl work hard in these fields?
@@livics610 Did I say that at some point?
@@amisudanton2109 so what r u actually proposing, then?!
i have bpd too :/
I used to seek out her videos with trigger warnings to find diet tricks
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Not to be insensitive, but you were really diagnosed with DID? I have so many questions. From what I understand that’s an incredibly rare and controversial diagnosis. I would imagine that affects your life a lot.
I love Abbey! ❤ That is all
She’s just a walking advertisement for the meat industry. That’s all she seems to care about is proteins and intuitive eating completely ignoring most micronutrients.
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She overwhelming hits me as a "PC" nutritionist. Very , eat what makes you happy, counting is probably bad, etc. I think Abby was not being "pill shamed". I'm not sure if Liz thinks Abby has her exact same problems meaning Abby would not need her meds if she made the same changes. It seemed to me more like she was saying "I'm off my meds now from my diet and I feel better now than when I was on a diet similar to yours, and I wont take your advice because of that". Abby made the first video about Liz's diet not being good, so Liz responded. Abby did not show support for what Liz was doing but when Liz expressed not supporting Abby, now we have this huge problem. I think you could stretch it to see that she was being shamed for treating her problems with medications, but to me it seemed more like Liz was saying she was doing this because she was seeing results. Abby also seems to follow the school of thought that possibly doing something that someone else might abuse, such as calorie counting, is therefore harmful to talk about in public spaces.
She very much tries to please both sides of the spectrum in terms of fat acceptance rhetoric vs health extremists, maybe not all the time but she often will contradict herself. People in fat acceptance like her cause she criticizes skinny celebrities and models diets and then she also talks about health, mental health which attracts a different audience. Now I havent watched a lot of her videos, but she feels wishy washy and doesnt want to address real issues. Like does she have any issues talking about how harmful fat acceptance rhetoric can be? That fat influencers are passing away?
Liz is like Abbey with the condescension..funny how neither of them like each other haha. Abbey is the same in her videos with the fake politeness with the hint of shade, like Liz when she's addressing the 'controversy' or glorifying her butter diet. Both seem to think they're better than everyone while trying to come off as innocent and humble, very strange
I have watched Abbey for years. Before even her heavy HAES days when it was food science and skits. I've watched her evolution. I don't personally find her content problematic for me especially in the context of watching her for years, but I have found I do not enjoy her videos much anymore. I find myself starting and stopping more videos than watching all the way through. I think some of her "sass" comes across as mean now. Witty science jokes seem to now be a little more personal. I get why people find her content triggering or iffy.
I think Liz took a lot of low blows at Abbey that were unfair.
I completely understand where you are coming from regarding Abby. However, her hunger crushing completely changed my life. Since then I haven’t binged.
Some of her videos make her seem like Freelee the banana girls nicer cousin I have to say
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