New Fallout TV Show Images Have Me...Worried
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I'm currently producing a series on the Full Story of Fallout 4. I'm about halfway through. You can watch it here: ua-cam.com/play/PLX3Sax_xs4WQLzrm-usenWm_qO02YubJ8.html&si=LdEI1LCE_ex070sW
well to answer your question at the end remember the halo show
It's an abomination!
Why can't they use real weapons? They mash other things together and call it a day. Hurts my eyes to see that Lewis/M240 mutant of a gun.
They are gonna fuck it up, Bethesda has been going down in terms of game quality for years and the same goes with Hollywood so it's a literal perfect recipe for garbage
they likely are going with the same alternate universe bla bla that the halo show went with....
Also, the ghouls don't look nearly as ghoulish as they're supposed to be.
Thumbnail just looks like a bad MCU Red Skull.
They look like they're 2 years into ghoulification
The scorched guy in the maze runner movies looks more like a fallout ghoul than this show
Apparently the director asked that the ghouls looks be ‘toned down’ in order for the actor playing him be recognisable.
@@mrjocktstupid reason. Find the character name, read the credits, find the actor/actress.
They don't need to tone down the ghouls. ☹️
Yaaaaay can’t wait for them to reveal the “we didn’t consume any fallout media before making the show.” And “We wanted to reach broader audiences”
Good point. I hate they don't know that a fallout show loyal to the fallout games would reach a broader audience because everyone seems to be a gamer nowadays anyway.
Given that it's Amazon making the show, I'm personally looking forward to a transgender Nick Valentine, complete with thick African accent making an appearance.
@@thanekrios3211LMFOAOAOAAA THIS IS KILLING ME
I have no faith in modern Hollywood - they always try to hock popular game ideas to make a quick buck, and at the same time change key aspects of lore for no other reason than “cuz I can”.
As a halo fan, I don’t have much hope anymore
Genuinely worried if they didn’t do the bare minimum of research on the brotherhood for a major part of the plot 😭
oxhorn is the wrong place to be talking about bare minimum of research
Todd Howard is an executive producer, so I doubt that they did "bare minimum research".
@@thanekrios3211but knowing that todd howard hates the original fallouts, he probably gave them fallout 3, 4 and 76’s cheap lore to go off of
i think the series wont be part of the main fallout lore, they will create their own lore in a kind of parallel universe picking the best parts of the fallout universe and make their own and unique story. and i think thats not that bad of an idea. the negative side is we wont get any new lore from it, the positive side is we can see an alternate history fallout story with all our favorite places and factions
@@Rolhenw Nah fam its just gonna be boring cheap hashed together dogshit.
Im so glad you were wrong. The series is the best video game adaptation ever so far
uh. the last of us exists. so does the OG mortal combat, pokemon, and arcane.
Not to sound like a blind fan for the show and (or because) I had my reservations too but after having seen it now, besides mild possible inconsistencies or irritations, it was largely on point and fun to watch. Many on-point Fallout references. Even the other ghouls you see looked fine in general. One guy literally looked like the average FO4 ghoul with his face. Obviously some aesthetics will differ or convert differently from standard set of game model (like ghoul looks) vs. studio stage and practical effects/makeup so we shouldn't expect a carbon copy of everything from the games, but I'd say they kept it all well within the general lore.
Yes, they all sound like morrons now hahahhahaha
@@beliffywu5804 the last of us show was bad. Not even compared to the game, just as a show. The only good episode was Nick Offerman's
@@beliffywu5804 lmao bro the Og mortal Kombat? I think you need to go back and watch those movies lmao.
I’d have given the ghouls colored contacts, make the masks slightly thicker to give a more rugged and rotten skin appearance, and I hope they do the pack a day smoker voices.
And the ghoul have perfect pearly whites as well! Impeccable hygiene from the ghoul 😂
@@00vondough00 There is only one ghoul I know who is like that, he’s British and lives in Bar Harbor.
Correction, technically two if you go by their voice, but the second is actually just the dude who got his face torn off by a frisky assaultron in a sheepsquache outfit and now works for the Blue Ridge Caravan.
Johnathon Nolan said there were reasons in lore for that particular ghoul to look less ghoulish than others, so hopefully other ghouls will look alot less like humans
This was addressed. The Bounty Hunter character had to have light make up effect to portray emotions and for it to be comfortable to the actor. This will probably be true for most non feral ghouls, but I'm sure ferals will tend to look more like traditional zombies so there is a clear indication to the viewer they are not "normal" ghouls.
And they need to say what are you looking at smooth skin
The fallout fanbase is famous for how graciously we deal with inaccuracies in the lore, this will go well
Lol Fr the comments are already full of people complaining 💀
@@revivalofnutrientGood, don't settle for less.
@@GBEWgw2 No thanks, you really can't be sure these days whether a show is going to be good, specially coming from Amazon, will wait for a few reviews whether this is worth wasting my time on.
I’m sure, especially when so far the show already seems to be loaded with memberberries in places they don’t seem to belong (specifically 2296 California).
@@A7XKoRnRocks1 with how shows are nowadays nobody should have their hopes up lmao
The problem with these shows is that the screenwriters they hire either have no idea what the source material is, or they were just casual players who didn't pay attention to the story.
and they always assume they can do better than the source material, and that any change is automatically better.
Assassins Creed is a perfect example of this. The first game had an awesome narrative which would've translated very well to a movie. Instead we get one of the worst video game adaptations ever
It’s not that. It’s just that they want to make personal stand ins and inject their politics into it. They ruin everything they touch.
naw, the problem is that the screenwriters they hire HATE the source material and do everything possible to push THE MESSAGE
@@uncletimo6059 Da message lmao. Cry more.
@@porter9494 cry? are you projecting?
its possible that theyre saying that the brotherhoods job is to bring law and order to make it a somewhat reveal that theyre hoarding all the technology as a plot twist. like at first you think theyre ok and then you find out theyre not, the characters start hating maximus and eventually forgive him when he fights the brotherhood, cliche cliche cliche. but eitherway it has potential to be not bad
Yes, let's wait until the end of season 1 before attacking the show's presentation of this lore, in case it's a plot twist. I'm so tired of YT channels hating on shows that haven't even aired yet. Now, if Amazon do make the BOS into knights of justice and try to make that canon, then by all means we'll tear them apart for it and ruin the likelihood of a season 2. But let's wait and give them a chance to tell a story first.
@@donkeysunitedtbf, the brotherhood thinks they are "bringing law and order" by withholding tech from the wastelanders. Bad guys often think they are the good guys.
@@donkeysunited After having seen the show now it's partly funny and confusing seeing some fears (which at that time might've been natural, ok I get it, often game to tv show adaptations never had the best reputation or outcomes).
I'd say the show was largely on point with general fallout lore. There were some changes to faction MO and aesthetics and maybe some minor to medium irritations but I saw no real "game breakers". Many Fallout references were on point.
Anyway, the BOS also largely seemed on point for me. Actually seeing it fleshed out with some details and rites was nice. I'd say they were kinda on point with the BOS and their portrayal.
And without much spoilers, no, they're not the Fallout 3 Charity BOS. The core mission and mindset of the BOS is sufficiently portrayed at key parts.
@@Unknown-ek1ox I just finished the last episode an hour ago :)
War. War never changes.
I thought it was good. A few minor gripes but overall it was well done.
@@donkeysunited Agree. Can't wait for S2 and the NV teaser, really.
I would have loved an anthology series. The among the best parts of Fallout is uncovering all the stories of people before and after the war. Stand alone episodes exploring those types of stories would be awesome and give the creators vast latitude.
I agree that's a great idea!
They can still uncover all those stories in a serialized series. I'd argue this is more "like the games," as a single Fallout game is quite long and has overarching plotlines alongside those little stories. I guess what I'm saying is treat this more like a "Fallout 5" than a "Fallout 1-4"; it's one show, not a whole franchise of stories.
Also as much potential as a Fallout anthology series could have, I doubt it would hold everyone's attention for all that long. But we can only speculate about that.
I need me some pre war fallout content fr fr
I thought it was exactly this, each season dwelling in the Fallout wasteland through various years
I think thats the only way to do it, its such a vast catalogue of information to pull from..
The town looks almost like a combination between Megaton and Diamond City, I hope we get a proper good look at it when the show airs. I will remain cautiously optimistic.
Both terrible junktowns
@@thegoodfather1177 Megaton is literally the most unique and interesting town in the entire game, the only thing that even comes close is Rivet City, and Vault City, but then again Vault city isnt in the 3d games so its tough to compare.
@@connorbranscombe6819 Megaton is horribly designed, literally has a nuke in the center, it has no defensive advantage, would routinely flood and has no food source
@@thegoodfather1177I don't think you can grow anything in the DC wasteland due to how horribly irradiated the soil is. Megaton is pretty defensible since it has high walls and a gate. But why they built around a bomb is pretty dumb
@@angeloluna529 If they can't grow anything then no one would live there, they couldn't live there, Boston has crops and plants, I think it must have been a developers mistake for Fallout 3, same with there being no rain. No rain and no food means no sustainable life.
Honestly, I'm not mad at the description of the Brotherhood as having a "mission to bring law and order to the Wasteland - and will do anything to further their goals". That is their mission, their public one. It's not like the Prydwen blasts "We're here to take your shit", they say "Do not interfere." and "Our intentions are peaceful". The mission that the highlighted part of the caption states is how the Brotherhood would define themselves. Their stated mission and their unstated goals are two different things. I feel like highlighting only the first part of that sentence kind of misconstrues any deeper meaning of the caption; a meaning they really tried to emphasize by putting a hyphen right there.
But they're isolationists. Taking over Vs hiding are two different strategies on what to do _after_ they steal technology.
This is the job of the enclave
Because this isn't a Fallout TV show. It's some writers bullshit story they managed to dupe people into using Fallout as the vessel to tell it.
They are technological hoarders. Not even thieves. They DON'T interact with other people. But shit Bethesda did no research on this so the bastardize TV show of a bastardized video game being bastardized is no surprise.
Not gonna lie, saw that guy in Power Armor wielding that FO4 abomination of an assault rifle and all I could think was "Oh you poor bastard... you're playing vanilla."
Someone get this guy a replacer mod stat!
to be fair, when captain kells tells you about the history of the prydwyn he also mentions it isn't the only ship of it's kind but it was the biggest and most advanced
Technically Tactics had the first of its kind
Airships are how Elder Lyons and co got to the east coast in the first place.
I'd also venture that there was enough salvage from the Crawler to make two airships, or more.
@@chrisclay7013 It's even possible that they were able to duplicate the technology.
I’m glad that someone remembered that it escaped my memory😁
I’m surprised no one else has mentioned on any other video I’ve seen, but those BoS soldiers have a RED emblem. The only faction I know that has a red emblem is the Appalachian chapter that originated from a reinforcement detachment from lost hills. Now we don’t know which leader was chosen canonically or what their end goal was, but it’s still interesting.
I've been talking about too!
The West Coast is blue.
Purpl
@@Tr8or_ it’s red…..
@@Tr8or_I can see why you think that but I think it’s more blue than purple.
I dont see why the color matters, iots a logo not a flag, you are digging too much into it
I think it can all be explained by the idea of it taking place in various locations across the country.
Starts in California and moves around from there. Maybe they're trying to adequately cover places from each game instead of trying to focus on only one location. As long as there's enough detail and time spent in each, that sounds pretty cool to me.
i think the series wont be part of the main fallout lore, they will create their own lore in a kind of parallel universe picking the best parts of the fallout universe and make their own and unique story. and i think thats not that bad of an idea. the negative side is we wont get any new lore from it, the positive side is we can see an alternate history fallout story with all our favorite places and factions
@@Rolhenw Except, unfortunately, Todd Howard already came out and said that the TV show is going to be totally canon...
@@Rolhenw Nah fam its just gonna be boring cheap hashed together dogshit.
Yet entire generations lived and died barely moving half a state's worth of distance because the world is that harsh. Something Bethesda forgot and these writers would have no idea of.
I mean, to be fair, a lot of flights were going to be in the skies over the US when bombs fell. It's entirely plausible that scrap cities were built around other airline debris that fell in places like Philly. Megaton had the distinct feature of having an unexploded nuclear bomb at its center, and that really wasn't showcased here, so I'll cut them some slack on that front.
Parts of Baltimore look like this already...
After seeing the article and photos I'm not any more worried about the Fallout TV show than when I simply learned the fact that there would be a Fallout TV show. Take that how you will.
It's better to fix it before the show releases than to have it release and require many retcons to make up for it.
It's like the Halo show all over again.
Yeah i have 0 high hopes.
100% all the badass brotherhood scenes will be flashbacks or some shit and wont actually be integeral to the story
I knew they weren’t going to make anything but a display for some enthusiastic cosplay. Besides the pretty paint, the story can’t possibly be anything cohesive or rewarding.
From what I can tell they used the power armor because it gets people excited, but couldn’t afford to put in NCR as well… not sure how much they talked to people who knew about the history of the game, but if it’s people from Bethesda, who’s surprised this is going to be an absolute mess?
I plan for the worst these days.
Being an aviation technician that lives in LA it’s possible for a town to be make out of plane scrap seeing as there’s a boneyard in Victorville California, and the most famous I think is the one in Mojave. I guess they would just need an explanation on how they transported it unless they just used scrap from LAX.
There would have been a heap ton of scrap from LAX. Not to mention Ontario, Santa Monica, Long Beach and all the other regionals.
I think it's not the issue of the town itself being made of a plane, it's that it really seems like this is Megaton, that they copied it so closely? But it's not Megaton it's another location. And also the point he brought up in the movie: do we wanna see these things again? We want to see Megaton again? I personally don't.
More The Problem That It Looks Like a 1-1 recreation of megaton from what we've seen
Well, Fallout planes were MASSIVE...
You don’t live in the LA of Fallout.
This aged horribly
as an LA native there MANY airplane graveyards in the deserts around LA county, there's totally a good chance of settlements being mostly structured from salvaged airplane parts. Love your points in this video, im always skeptical of the game adaptations hollywood makes
It honestly feels like Bethesda took all it's idea from 3 and 4 and then randomly decided, hey what if we go and use Obsidian's lore which everyone loves, we need to show the fans WE own fallout, not obsidian. That's what I feel that happened during the planning of the show
@@dnrspdr03canadian95 it’s black isles lore not obsidians
Where's the NCR tho?
@@IVALKYRIE925 Well Josh Sawyer the real brains behind most of the lore was with Obsidian at the time of New Vegas
@@ColonelBragg a lot of the lore is based on the 1st and second game. thats what he means and new Vegas is almost entirly using that lore.
The town you think could be Megaton, I think its actually Junk Town. Junk Town is a town made of junk, scrap cars, and planes. Its located on the Westcoast and is a trading partner to Shadysands.
I completely forgot about junk town. That’s probably what it is but but let’s be honest it looks exactly like a megaton.
@@nowsmile790Megaton had a much better look due to the 3D element, so it makes sense to go that angle to me. Junk Town was very... flat. Because the game was.
can people not shit on the Earlier games. ffs. Without them you wouldnt have your precious Bethesda Fallout. Show some respect. @@ZeallustImmortal
@@MLPDethDealr32 Im not? Why are you so defensive? The game was literally isometric dude, not once did I say that was a bad thing, I just said moving to 3D allowed them to do more with locations visually. Junk Town was literally just a bunch of shipping containers and identical rectangle buildings.
@@MLPDethDealr32dude, chill.
I hope Caesar's Legion makes an appearance
If canonical end to F4 is the Brotherhood one, Prydwen still exists. It is thus possible that east coast Brotherhood either send Prydwen - now renamed for this mission to aid the west coast Brotherhood and that base is their new forward position in the NCR. Or maybe they built a copy from whatever they salvaged in the Commonwealth but that first option would make more sense. So renewed hostilities between NCR and the Brotherhood might go on in the background of main story.
It's possible for the Prydwen to survive with a Minutemen ending but yeah they're going to have to declare one of the 4 endings to FO4 as canon or at least semi-canon (considering some of the events in FO3 were made canon with FO4) if they don't want to make plot holes.
if there is a "canonical" ending to Fo4 it would probably involve the Minutemen in some capacity.
The best case scenario at this point is we get a decent story in a separate canon. Unless they just decided to hide the NCR from all marketing, not having any presence from them in the literal city they were founded in can only mean the writers want to tackle the "aesthetics" of fallout and not the lore.
They've said it IS canon. As in set in the same canon as the games
They will show a NCR veteran ranger with a securitron hunting down a bounty. The leaks also say a NCR HQ will show up.
That ghoul doesn’t look right, he needs to be more zombie.
@@thatguy913listen son, you need to respect the design choices
@@BB-ng5bf proper ghoul representation is important!
When it comes to the Brotherhood, I think it could also be read as that’s what the new squire THINKS they’re doing and all about. It notably says “his belief” in the mission, so it could be his plot line where he slowly starts to discover they aren’t what he thought they were.
Brotherhood members are born in the order and educated in their ways from the first stages of their lives. There is no way that a BoS member is misguided about what the BoS is all about.
That’s certainly fair. I guess I was thinking of it kinda like Finn in The Force Awakens; grunt who was brought up in it and once he gets into action his eyes are opened to what they’re REALLY doing. Guess we will see!
@@oldmanjesus9855if it’s after 2287, the brotherhood encouraged recruiting wastelanders sponsored by existing brotherhood members
Say that to Scribe Haylen that was starting to question BoS goals. And other BoS member that was feeding ghouls because on Boston Airport base @@oldmanjesus9855 there is a lot of examples.
Yup the bortherhood grew from something, I imagine it had a lot of growing pains and attempts to find its identity.
I would expect a lot of the original members had hopes of helping others but it changed over time
and the show turned out to be peak, you all got silenced
Lmao the show has gone on to be one of the best show adaptions to a game. And sales and interest for the game rose 7000 percent
That fallout four assault rifle is giant af😂😂😂
It has the long barrel. Very unwieldy.
It's supposed to be used with power armour.
Its my favorite frankenstein gun.
@@lucagerulat307 ...and the 10mm pistol? that is giant af too.
I don't think your comment is accurate.
@@Mohawks_and_Tomahawks The assault rifle was originally designed to be used with power armor. That's why it looks god awful when used by a regular person
I can only hope that the BoS character in the article is uniquely, naively optimistic. That he's a strong believer in the BoS being a force for good, even as behind his back a paladin is ripping an old lady's toaster out of her arms.
Ye old Brotherhood of Steel conflict: the way of Rhombus or the way of self-destruction.
man I hate it when those fat cans rob my toasters, can't have shit in L.A 😭
Something about him gives me big Finn vibes (from Star Wars), I think they are going for basically what you described.
The article said that he has a dark past, so he probably won't be as naive as you would like. If you live outside of the Vault, odds are you have already seen some bad stuff.
welp. show was great.
You sure did screw up on this one.
I think the whole "Brotherhood bringing law and order" blurb might just just be a slip-up for lack of a better term. They just told somebody who doesn't know the games well to write a few paragraphs, and so the gathered what they could mostly from context and a few wiki pages, and so he just assumed the roll that the faction might be playing.
I also think that it could makes sense for the prydwen to be back on the other coast if the Brotherhood had managed to recruit enough new knights local from Boston, that they could just leave a chapter of the faction there to hold and monitor the area, while the Elder and his core crew on the ship returned to California. Maybe the name's been changed because they had to replace pieces of the ship on it's return journey, and so the whole "Is it still the same ship if everything's been replaced." thing came up, so it's a way of making it a "different ship" While still acknowledging that that's what the went to Boston in in the first place.
makes sense.
How do we know they didn't just get someone who doesn't know the games well to write the entire show?
Because Todd Howard is the executive producer of the show.@@MajorCinnamonBuns
Which is a good sign imo.
I doubt it. FO4 didn't really get them right, and FO76 was basically a complete departure from Fallout entirely, Brotherhood included. This show is going to be a bastardization of a bastardization of a bastardization. It's not gonna be good, I'd bet money on it.
@@MajorCinnamonBuns the director himself said that he's a big fan of the franchise and he played Fallout 3 alot back in the day
The problem is that the directors are inheriting an amazingly rich and thought out story and thats going to be hard as shit. Sadly because its so hard they seem to be grabbing the iconic parts of the games to try to make more people watch it. It is definitely going to be hard to create a unique experience that can seperate itself from the original games while staying inside the confines of a previously madr world. I hope it becomes really good but adapting a story to a new format will always be hard.
just another cookie cutter appeal to everyone, enjoyed by no one series using fallout references as background noise
Except that it really isn't that hard. Fallout 3 was a new story, New Vegas was a new story, Fallout 4 was a new story. If the games manage to create unique, standalone stories that fit into the overall lore, there's really no excuse why a series would fail to do so. The Fallout universe is not that tightly packed, there's some overarching political and historical aspects to consider, but other than that, it's just a post apocalyptic wasteland. It's a prime sandbox limited only by the writers' imagination, as long as they don't deliberately overlap with the settings of preexisting installments.
So far, this seems like a hand picked bouquet of references from various Fallout games with little care for lore compliance.
@@Navajonkee Also, the games have to take into account the fact that they're RPGs! Meaning people can affect the wasteland in meaningful and different ways. It should be way easier to write a story that works if you have a set ending in mind. If you make a game with 4 factions, you have to divide the story in 4 parts that are equally engaging and thought provoking. If you have 4 factions but you'll only see 1 being followed, then it's going to be miles easier to do. Probably the hardest part of the show is that Bethesda can't reuse assets in the real world, or make dialogue X yes, [] no, ∆ sarcasm, O mean
i think the series wont be part of the main fallout lore, they will create their own lore in a kind of parallel universe picking the best parts of the fallout universe and make their own and unique story. and i think thats not that bad of an idea. the negative side is we wont get any new lore from it, the positive side is we can see an alternate history fallout story with all our favorite places and factions
@@ANUBASS Summed up perfectly in 18 words.
Nothing to worry about, the show is fire
It came out and it’s actually really goood
Agree
Worth mentioning that "scrap city" looks a whole lot more like Morgantown Airport. Specifically where you run collision course than it does Megaton. Also the power armor logo is 76 colors.
Something to keep in mind is that Bethesda probably didn't write the article in Vanity Fair nor the synopsis you found on Amazon Prime Video. Also in some of the leaked photos (I know, they may not make the final cut) there is an NCR flag in the background. I hope you are right. This TV show needs to be lore friendly. My only hope is that because Todd Howard has been involved in the production of the show that it will be cannon.
Actually Todd is executive producer for the TV series.
Well to be fair, Todd Howard was involved in the production of Starfield, and that game blows compared to TeS and Fallout.
@@prdsatx4467 Well to be fair he has no clue on the plot of Starfield but he does know the plot for fallout since Fallout 4.
@prdsatx4467 starfields good yall just whiners lol
@JR-zi9vj it's just alright bro
The majority of these comments aged like mayo on a hot sunny day. 😂
Finnaly one of these is wrong. This show makes me all happy inside
It could be that in those 9 years Maxon returned with the air ship having taken some damage en-route. After a major refit the re-christened the ship with the new name. Maybe. All taken together does start to scream about a lack of attention to the details of what is already cannon.
that’s what I was thinking
Get the New Vegas team on this series, they've got enough months to turn it into an awesome show.
FR we need to see some companions in the show
god i am sick of all these children worshipping NV. Y'all weren't even born when NV came out and yet when asked why its good y'all echo the same bullshit upisnotdown said.
Quit glorifying it's development team, that shit was just as buggy as fallout 4 was when it launched and the Sierra Madre DLC was by far the worst DLC I've ever played for a fallout game and I played ts on its launch. If you really wanted to, you can detail FO4 Dogmeat in a way that would make Ceaser's Legion lore look like a new Kennedy Kathleen movie. They are both basic and uninteresting.
@@haydenisanerd4958 I ain’t readin allat 💀
@@haydenisanerd4958 lol ok Todd Howard
look i was right they are children 🙄
lol this aged like milk…the shows great!
For thoughts on what their plans might include: don't forget, Lonesome Road does include an option to nuke the NCR, possibly alongside Caesar's Legion, so it's possible they'll be canonizing that both got nuked, possibly with some sort of main FNV ending that boosted the Brotherhood somehow (since afaik there wasn't really a "let the Brotherhood take over" I'm guessing Independent would be better for them than House?). Also, given how there is a glimpse of a horse rider witnessing the bombs drop, I'm betting that's the ghoul they're frontlining. In any case, I'm skeptical but not sure what to think so far.
i think the series wont be part of the main fallout lore, they will create their own lore in a kind of parallel universe picking the best parts of the fallout universe and make their own and unique story. and i think thats not that bad of an idea. the negative side is we wont get any new lore from it, the positive side is we can see an alternate history fallout story with all our favorite places and factions
@@Rolhenw Future games might ignore it, but it will probably be referencing the past games, hence the suggestion that they might be picking specific possible canons from them to go with for the series.
@@Rolhenw i think i read somewhere that the show is indeed canon
The NCR are confirmed to show up tf you on? The entire plot of the show explained in this vid is wrong.
True plot: the Brotherhood have control of areas in LA and are getting Attacked by the NCR, Enclave and (Not Confirmed), the Brotherhood are in a war with NCR in this Show, and before you say "They Would've Shown NCR In The Trailer!!!" No? If people are BEGGING to see a NCR Ranger in live action, they wouldn't spoil it?
@@Samuel-Chronos-Mear I dunno where you got NCR confirmed from, I was going off the vid saying they didn't see anything NCR and only saw BOS, hence the theory based on that available information. The post was at least a month ago and I don't frequent prerelease leak sites or whatever so all I knew was what the video talked about and again they were the ones saying no NCR.
i would love to see a series just based in the vaults. it would be amazing to see a horror/fallout style series all of the experiments and messed up incidents form each vault.
Gary.
Gary!
Yea, who even leaves the vault to explore the wasteland anyways?
@@klubstompers I'm talking early on. The vaults have some many stories. Why blow them all off just to rush out of the vault. It could even be it's own standalone horror series
@@klubstompers I'm talking early on. The vaults have some many stories. Why blow them all off just to rush out of the vault. It could even be it's own standalone horror series
I can see either a star or writer of this show saying something like "we aren't trying to remake the game in a TV show. We are trying to imagine a new fallout." Like i really think someone is going to say this at some point
Lets hope its not snow white
Ah, the ol Rings of Power response lol.
@@vmdenis3350 no worse it looks like to be next Rangs of Powa and one dimensional marry sue with following attacks on fans since they dared to criticize slop they produced.
@@lusians3 pray for tod Howard to notice the script
@@lusians3"Rangs of Powa"
You can't just not like something without being racist, can you?
this aged like milk
Power Armor looking like god damn cardboard, flopping.
This video aged like milked because thank god they killed it in adaptation.....🔥🔥🤌🤌
I’m gonna give this show an official:
“We’ll see”
We will see if it’s terrible.
I’m not a blind optimist but it doesn’t look awful so far although you’re right we will see
I’m giving this show an official why bother? Why torture yourself? like Charlie browns football. You know what it’s going to be like.
Literally heard every single one of my fears in this video.
I'm praying real hard that the show turns out great and that right now we're just being show the most familiar stuff to attract people who mainly played Fallout 4 and aren't into the lore.
I know how you feel, this fear is real and it will not go away, let's pray they care more about the story then a cheep grab of cash.
And actually know how to make a story.
Actually let's just hope this doesn't have any connections to the video games and it's, it's own seperat story.
@@hauntedmedic373they do not my friend
i share ur sentiment but i am not even keeping my fingers crossed because i have zero hope realistically speaking. sadly.
could've said the same thing for the Halo show and they actively disregarded the lore
There is going to be woke Agenda in it. I can see the BOS being very trigger happy when they see any ghouls and the Mary Sue will do her best to stop them shooting at ghouls.
hey that's an issue, the Pridwin being up and running means they are striking off endings to fallout 4, if they aren't careful they may accidentally create a true ending to fallout 4, means the institute didn't win and the railroad didn't win
Show is fantastic!
you said it man... it's cautious optimism for me too. i really want this to be good! one of my main complaints about what i saw from the previews so far is the ghoul... he looks like they took him out of the microwave too early. like come on rip his ear off or give him yellow sclera or something, he looks way too clean. this ghoul is undercooked!!!!
I'm at hope for the best, but prepare for the worst. i'm not sure how many more times i can get my heart broken by studios who don't hire real fans to help on the show
I’m not even going to waste my time with this show. I know without seeing a minute of it that it’s going to suck
@@dannypipes75. Trailer looked like trash.
The writers have already said it will feature "heavy social commentary." Just from the trailer you can see they've gone through the DEI checklist.
Same, I want it to be a good show because I love Fallout but we’ve been burnt before so I won’t hold my breath.
Being a mega fans doesn’t mean you know anything about writing/producing.
The Rey and Finn vibe I'm picking up from the Lucy and Maximus characters has me worried too. I sincerely hope I'm wrong
Turns out it was a masterpiece
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I'm hoping they described the brotherhood in that way to not give away too much to people who maybe have never played the games, but want to or end up, watching the series. It would likely be a twist to someone who doesn't know that the brotherhood is bad in those ways, finding out that they are bad at the same time the vault dwellers do. But idk.
I hope that is the case. However, I could just as easily see some exec taking one look at the power armor and the Prydwen, saying 'aw, hell yeah!" and ret-conning the story around THAT being the BBEG centerpiece.
what do u mean bad kid, do u mean evil? theyre not evil
What do you mean. They are going to dumb everything down to the point where you can hardly watch it. It's going to be star wars all over again. They are going to take everything you love about the game and dumb it down to where the marvel fans and watch mojo viewers can eat it up.
@@hallucy2215lol. They're pretty close. They're essentially technofascists
My guess is that's the case.
Oxhorn read one line and made a whole LOT of assumptions based on it.
I have a feeling this is going to be another failure. However, not for reasons of either malice nor incompetence. This one fails on the alter of economics, I think. The production company had no idea just how much they'd bitten off when they decided to chew on this particular IP. So, to help combat that I think what's going to happen is a combining of the Brotherhood with NCR into an amalgamation faction that resembles neither in the end. This will, I feel, divide the fandom into factions of their own. Rarely a good thing for a franchise.
I hope I'm wrong. I don't hold out a lot of hope, considering the recent track record of the entertainment industry, but, as they say, hope springs eternal.
They are probably just thinking about how cool and iconic the Power Armor is and that's why they went with the Brotherhood as the main faction.
literally couldn't have described it more perfectly they have no idea what they've just gotten themselves into trying to replicate this accurately 💀
How is them failing to do their research not incompetent?
It'll be woke trash no denying it
Oh you sweet summer child... Did you read the article about this? Two words over and over again from the creators, "SOCIAL COMMENTARY". That is definition malice of with forethought. Not story, characters, or ideas - preconceived "messages" with characters we bought through an IP acquisition.
No one checks the information. All companies see is a cash grab of an interesting product.
Having seen it now it was rather fun and on-point with many Fallout references we've long since known from the games. Can't wait for Season 2.
Didn't aged well to all your nay-sayers eh?
It's not unreasonable to worry about game adaptations, they have a bad track record. That said, im glad we were wrong and that the show was pretty good
2:15 - Us nerds like to forget that not everyone is like us. Promotional material like this is written for the widest audience possible, including people who have no clue about Fallout. So this doesn't mean they don't understand the lore, it means they break it down for people who have no idea what "technology cult" is supposed to mean.
Also, even though it's not explicitly their goal, the Brotherhood absolutely views itself as the sheriff of the wasteland.
No they don't. The actual BoS followers don't even pretend to do that. Have you even played any Fallout games besides 3? lol
Not a nerd but I’m a fan of fallout and they definitely should be pandering to us a lot more giving the popularity of the games. If fallout fans think it’s bad, the movie is failing even if the others love it
Fallout was always a niche game with a cult following until Bethesda came in and ruined it. There is no excuse not to pander to the nerds, because the game was made for the nerds. We are the audience. I’m not going to cream my pants just because someone is labelled brotherhood of steel or wearing power armour, and I really hope that the show plans on being deeper than just:
“Hey look guys! You remember the brotherhood, right? You like those guys, so please watch our show.”
At this point it feels like the brotherhood is going to be the Jedi of the wasteland. Honestly I’m OK with that idea but still I really do wish they would create brand new factions.
As if. All they do is take the good shit and kill "monsters".
In 4, if you become an enemy, they will target settlements with artillery to kill everyone. As in the people of the commonwealth and the minutemen, who's only goal is organizing the people to protect each other, like a less corrupt NCR
Todd Howard has already stated that the story in the T.V. show will be canonical.
But the brotherhood of steel 😢
You can see that he didn't read the article
He has no respect for established lore.
And we all know we can trust Todd...he never lies...
Todd needs to be fired, bethesda also.
The show is good.
The show is bad.
@@jdools4744 So you haven't watched it.
@@sal5440 Even better I actually played the games :P
@@jdools4744 Clearly not if you just hate the show lol. What exactly makes it bad? Because it sounds like you don't play and didn't watch but just felt the need to pretend.
@@sal5440 It contradicts established canon in the worst way possible!
The NCR is dead
Vault tec dropped the bombs
House has his motivations undermined
Boneyard is gone
No Boneyard means no Followers
No Followers means no Legion
New Vegas the city is dead
FNV cant even happen now
Etc etc
And that is just a few things all of which is glaringly obvious if you played a Fallout game other than 4 (also the casting and story was terrible but who cares about that)
Let’s just wait till the show comes out.
Fun fact the lost hills on the west coast is actually a real place located in roughly the same area in the game… however nothing is out there accept a bunch of oil wells
I do like how Fallout does that kind of thing.
That we know of 👻
@@chefbreccia2642Still waiting for mysterious stranger to proc
Or so the Germans will have you believe....
And hills, which we can't find, of course.
I strongly suspect it will get ruined by ESG and people who simply aren't fans of the franchise and thusly don't care enough about the lore and the Canon to do the due diligence and get it right 😢 .
And I really love the fallout games to be honest they are one of my favorite franchises and I really hate to see be handled by people who expect to treat it like some unknown or some Network specific original series that has no pre-existing Canon or lore.
But still 🤞🏻
yeah i hope its not a big DEI country stew.
also, had to look at your name twice too lol thought i was trippin
Everyone knows it will. Good movies and shows are rare now. They'll butcher it and blame the fans for its failure. Adapting games in general has a terrible track record anyway.
@@jamesbadham3872 😂 I see why lol I guess that makes you my bad twin LOL
I have a feeling they have "Always been big fans of the Fallout series" and really loved it when they were watching other people play the games. We'll just have to see, but Hollywood elites will always Hollywood elite.
@@gadman85 exactly .
That's why it's so important that it doesn't become the new He-Man so to speak 😞
But exactly what you said .
So who knows if they'll risk ruining one of gaming's greatest franchises debut to live action series for ESG , but yeah it's probably going to be f'd up in so many ways .
But I think what concerns me most is that they'll do a few episodes that are good and get everyone really invested in it and then flip the ESG switch .
But then it's Netflix and I know they f'd up Cowboy Bebop
But they did do pretty good on One Piece
So maybe they will live learned their lesson .
And hopefully One Piece is a sign of the future , Netflix wants to make money they don't want to throw away their business and their profits for ESG .
But I have a feeling this is going to be history's worst dumpster fire 😞 .
I'm not going to lie though I know that the Fallout franchise has some homosexuality in it that doesn't bother me it's not immersion breaking to me but if that is the only sexuality except for weird heterosexual s*** like Ghouls and Supermutants then yeah f*** that .
It's not homosexuality that bothers me it's them trash and heterosexuality and doing this weirdo I'm a boy dressed up as a girl and I want to touch your little boys behind or some s*** that weirdo Transit that's going on now that's like pedophiles okay but traditional homosexuality is not offensive it's not my problem who's someone else does the pig in a poke with 🤣 I don't know your comment elicited way too much response but then again I really love Fallout and it just pisses me off to think that they're going to KK my Star Wars
It's funny to hear now a PR manager of Bethesda criticize Amazon's error. Seems like your direct channel works too though.
It looks like it will be exactly as I thought it would be, an original post-apocalyptic story with a fallout skin
The thing that bothers me most is that they clearly only have one power armor costume. You can see the identical battle damage on the chest plates of all them since they were just copied from different shots.
Pretty pathetic considering how costume-making has advanced in last decade with cheap 3d printing and foam. The costume probably wouldn't cost more than $1,000 to make. Yet they made only 1 - I hope all that booze and hookers were worth it :(
I noticed the same thing. There's a mark above the left knee (on the right when the suit is facing us) that was identical on each one. You'd think they'd at least make different arms and legs to stick on it while recording other people wearing armor to at least try and make it look a little different. Or heck, have some stick on clear matte plastics with wear on it to stick over the peices to make them look different for each character.
THANK YOU! Thank you for bringing up the cars.They have gone to extreme lengths to get the visuals so accurate, yet the cars have been a glaring over site. Here is hoping they will be a CGI add in during post production.
I'm waiting to see what a Super Mutant looks like!!!
@@timothyharris1125 Glowing Deathclaws or a horde of ghouls in a Supermarket.. OR A GLOWING HORDE OF GHOULS IN A SUPERMARKET? So many possibilities.
@timothyharris1125 2nd season! Right now, we got a hand and a skull.
i would actually argue that defecting from their original mission is more 'brotherhood' than their actual mission, lyons, veronica, and rahmani come to mind
The TV show was great. it is clear to me that they makers of the show are big fans of fallout 1 and going forward. the changes made are mostly really good in my opinion. and before you attack the show for changing anything at all just know, lore was changed from fallout 1 to 2. then radically changed from 1&2 to tactics, then RIP most of Tactics lore and welcome in new changes from 1&2 in the release of 3. and of course we all know there are major lore changes from the core 1, 2 & 3/NV in the making of fallout 4 (the worst and most watered down in the series) the TV show is the best fallout content we have gotten since fallout NV.
What I wish producers did more often is hire dedicated fans who have made themselves into scholars on the games/books they are trying to adapt into movies and shows. Just from this video alone I've learned more about the Brotherhood of Steel across the Fallout franchise than I had known before. Well done, Oxhorn.
Lol, I love the idea. Lore Quality Control
If this existed, we would have avoided the mess of the Star Wars sequels. Especially the Last Jedi.
They can't even listen to historical advisors when making historical films. What makes you think they'll listen to lore advisors for fictional universes?
Amazon did this for the Tolkien series, then the producer shitcanned them. Because they kept pointing out all the things that went against what was in the books and writings.
You're asking producers to see their target audience as real people and not just walking bags of money.
I think they are very worried about a backlash if they tell the same story with all the same details but get it wrong by the fans of the game. The tv and movie side seem to always do a “based on”, or adapted line somewhere to say they had the “essence” of it but didn’t want to “retell that same story but to create our own”. It also allows them to expand it and create more story lines, like side quests that are now more center stage. Many books than have been made into tv and movie versions are a little off, or abridged versions of the print. I do hope they don’t screw it up.
This is also why they always flop
This is confirmed canon tho.
@@sgthomas1266 sure it is. Todd is an idiot who can't keep his Canon straight and always has to have the next people fix it. Fans have figured out so much that is wrong that I think he'll walk that back. Of course he's saying it's Canon, he wants it to sell well
This show is likely going to be yet another vehicle used by the antiwhites to assault the reputation of Western culture, just like Bethesda does with their games. I wouldn't get your hopes up.
Fans of niche products don't realize you can't have your cake and it eat it too. You want a big budget movie of your favorite franchise? We'll its gonna have to appeal to a bigger audience than just fans. Selling 10 mill copies of a game for $60 is money in the bank, selling 10 million movie tickets at $10 (which then gets split between the theater), not so much.
Although it is very possible that this show will totally mess up every bit of lore, because nowadays scrrenwrighters usually don't care a bit about the source material, I find some of these "worries" pulled a little bit from the hair. Just because we see a couple of plane pieces used to build a town wall it doesn't mean the town is Megaton or something similar. Using car wreckages or metal scraps from airfields to build town walls is pretty common in the wasteland if the community is big enough to do it.
Regarding the BoS, in the East you are right, they returned (once again 🙄) to their "good ol' habits". But in the West, "canonically", the NCR won against them in California. The only way they could have survived was if McNamara in Nevada changed their habits and accepted to cooperate with the NCR to patrol the Mojave, which is an ending you can get in New Vegas. Maybe in the show it is this faction of the BoS we see, even though I agree that not seeing any trace of the NCR in the trailer is strange.
The ghoul should have a raspy voice too
I wouldn't worry too much about the description of the BOS its probably an obfuscation meaning they act like they want to help people, for example their announcement to the region when they showed up in FO4, and then it will be a twist to viewers not hyper fans when it is revealed they aren't "good guys" in the show. It seems like these captions are written as the way the MC/Vault dweller perceives them in the beginning, not how they actually are. The NCR is probably still in power and will be mentioned as you know the governing body, but the government don't mean much out in the untamed areas. They can claim all of California BUT did they tame all of it enough to enforce their power on everyone at all times?
This is how I would see it. They could still screw it up but it makes sense they're not giving out an encyclopedia to the entire show before it airs and that they have to actually show you how these factions behave and not just say who everyone is with exposition.
The prydwin is actually lore friendly. In fallout tactics, the brotherhood mentions they have airships.
The only fallout in this series will be the audience reaction
I have mixed hopes about this series. Todd Howard says it's canonical but that is doubtful.
Where did Todd say it was canon???
@@Deadsphere he said it in an Vanity Fair interview. Just google it
@@DeadsphereIn that article Ox showed.
Well Todd Howard owns the franchise so if he says it canonical, then it is.
@@jvazacas Todd Howard has never been involved in a fallout game that took place on the west coast.
I’ve been waiting to hear your thoughts on this. In all seriousness, they really should hire you to make sure they’re doing it justice. Great video as always!
Gods damn it!! When I heard the name "Maximus," I thought he was going to have been a survivor of Caesar's Legion!!
I guess they thought a Brotherhood Scribe would be just as exciting a role...
Auther Maxson's doctrin inculde protection of all 'human' wasterlanders a long side preservation and developing new technology. Fallout Drama's Brotherhood of Stall fit's current tide of idelogy of brother Hoodofsteel. They are not west and Maxson is elder of both east and west.
The blurb says that Maximus believes that the Brotherhood is noble and bringing order, not that that is what they are objectively doing. Surely most Brotherhood soldiers see themselves as the "good guys," much like the Institute Scientists consider their ways the correct ones. The description even goes on to say that Maximus "will do anything to further their goals" - that could very well imply that some of the things he'll be asked to do will indeed be questionable.
Maybe Maximus is an Elder Lyons Sympathizer
The stress rambling from ox 😂 I do the same every time I try to explain the lore to my friends
I know this was posted a month ago but that is one plane just one and you forced it in your head that is was megaton not just a town that has a plane nose also the east coast brotherhood probably had their scribes archive their designs for the Pridwen then when they linked up and reconnected with the west coast they gave them the designs the brotherhood on the west coast most likely controls Maxson in the NCR and made it a place that is a large reinforced area with lots of technology they started to work with the ncr after the second battle of hoover dam because the courier probably canonically helped the ncr and all factions that can help and with their combined strength sent Caesars dogs packing and probably choose the diplomatic approach when dealing with the Legate after which hoover dams technologies where understood and the plans and stuff was given to the brotherhood they also got technologies from the strip, divide and other such stuff, they where also given direct access to the technologies the ncr had found at navarro use new materials they now had given they became very powerful but in return for the stuff they got they became apart of the ncr, they are required to do good for their fellow citizen and human alike so they have to help, they share their technologies to others and allow people to be apart of the brotherhood they serve the brotherhood as their spot in the army like marines in us army but they also serve the ncr as a soldier brotherhood have missions that are their own thing because in the ncr that is their job to explore new places that have been scouted by rangers they find useful gear and tech and erect outposts of key importance where it will then come under control and be used by their direct superior and them the ncr and this all happens before the Pridwen enters the commonwealth meaning nothing in fallout 4 has happened yet.
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Still worried?
The show might take a turn like other video game adaptions where they don't really follow the story part of the lore but takes pre-existing things like factions, creatures locations and turns it into its own thing rather than strictly following the lore
God I hope not
it just makes no sense, where is the ncr?
@gloomzy10278 Bethesda has changed the lore in every fallout game. They don't care too much about the lore of Fallout.
@@jonsmith590 Where did they change the lore? What part?
The it has no value to fans of the Fallout games. And I highly doubt the viewers of the show are going to supass the players of the games...
The ghoul doesn't look like a ghoul, he looks like Ryan Reynolds on the wrong end of a game of "Got Your Nose"
2:05
Wouldn’t it be rather the NCR that that tries to bring law and order to the wasteland?
i dont think its megaton , i think when the bombs fell there were plenty of comercial airliners that fell with them
id also argue a scrap city like that would generally look the same everywehre, a nice round fence and high buildings inside
If you go take a look at the vanity fair article you will find a quote by Johnathan Nolan that describes the brotherhood as “ a mutated version of patriotism religion loyalty and fraternity.” He also mentions that the brotherhoods interest is in obtaining and hoarding technology. I would trust the directors understanding of the plot and factions over whoever wrote this article.
Article written for general consumption by the public who don't know shit about Fallout lore.
Exactly. I think Ox is grasping at straws here. Looking for "something wrong".
@@IDPhotoMan I dunno, this feels more like an "I'm optimistic but have been burned by even less before so I may as well get my thoughts out their"
@@IDPhotoManafter LOTR cautious optimism is the absolute maximum grace you can afford.
Well that's actually somewhat reassuring
I love your takes on this, and some of it sounded VERY stretched for making it work. But overall, I agree with the "wanting to see new things" idea. I want the show to be great, but from what we've seen, I'm preparing myself for the worst. I hope it's good, though.
This show is likely going to be yet another vehicle used by the antiwhites to assault the reputation of Western culture, just like Bethesda does with their games. I wouldn't get your hopes up.
I think the lesson of the brotherhood is you have to change or fail ;]
I had (and have) my doubts about this series, they could have picked ANY location other than those which already appear in the various games, Florida comes to mind, keeps it relatively isolated without having to borrow factions, vehicles and, as you point out, WTF locations like Megaton. This was a major misstep, as bad as if they had included Diamond City as a town in California.
As with all TV series, they chose to ignore canon and went with brevity, A) Because it's cheaper and a little easier to write and B) Because they feel the average audience would get too confused having to keep track of too many factions, stories, etc.
I predict the rabid fans will watch this series, until the bile rises in their throats so high they switch off in confusion and disgust. It's "Kolchak- The Night Stalker" all over again- MUCH too hard to keep that suspension of disbelief hoisted aloft, so they just try to throw everything which gets an "Ooh Ahh" reaction and see what sticks.
However, I WILL give it a chance,just in case I'm wrong, but it comes down to "movies and series made form games are made by those who never saw the game(s), never played the game(s) and whose only real interest is in pandering to the built in fan base.
The idea of the brotherhood of steel being about technology just makes them more nuanced and interesting than if they are a generic militaristic group seeking control
I have thoughts about the BoS
1. it could be that the showrunner wanted to show the BoS that way first, and later on we knew their true intention (or well maybe some Elder in West coast did pull off a Lyons in the span lf 10 years from FO4)
2. I kinda remember Cpt Kells says there was a similar airship in the west coast like Prydwen? And in terms of technology where they get to build another ship like Prydwen, it's something they can easily add (and maybe it will be a big part in the show) without really massacring the lore
Oh god. I can already tell the people who want to like something so begin to rationalise. You're going to like the show no matter what. Whether it's actually good or bad you want it to exist you want to like it and you'll think up anything you can to justify that. It's so obvious the people who have your mindset.
I think Kells is referring to the Midwest brotherhood’s blimp, and yes this confirms that fallout tactics, is canon in some sense, though which ending and to what extent is unclear
i dont think its anything to get upset about @@TheycallmeMrWonka
@@TheycallmeMrWonka dude its just a fallout fan having theories about it, why cant he? Why are you so salty wtf man xD
@@ezrabraman6437 The events of Fallout Tactics happened is semi-canon confirmed by Bethesda. Meaning some is canon some isn’t. But the Midwestern Brotherhood does exist and Rothchild mentioned loosing communication with the chapter and that it went rogue.
Well, i remember a time where there was rumors going around on these streams where it was theorized that Oxhorn was a consultant for this series...
he should have been, I'd be a lot less fearful if he was, currently I'm glad I don't have prime
I would like to believe that the statement of the Brotherhood bringing law and order is put there to hold the suspense, hide, or disguise the factions true intentions from us, the audience. It very well could be that the show-runners could be setting up a plot point where the Brotherhood indeed is seen as protectors by the Fallout citizens, but have their real motives uncovered throughout the show. I'm very excited to see this show, and see how it all plays out.
The new trailer has the NCR!!!