Tech Death Essential Bands Debate | LOCK HORNS (live stream archive)
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LOCK HORNS: TECH DEATH adds a new branch to Banger's Heavy Metal Family Tree. Host Sam Dunn welcomes journalist Calum Slingerland (Exclaim!) for a live debate on the most essential bands in this complex extreme subgenre. Join us LIVE on Thursday Nov 9 at 4pm EST. But don't forget: come ready to fight!
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Decapitated first 4 albums are definitly technical death metal. Great band, should been on this list.
Yeah I was watching the entire thing expecting to see my favorite band Decapitated on the list
I know this isn't one of the albums that you are talking about but I just heard "anticult" the other day for the first time and god damn did it blow me away.
Tech Death = up tempo shredding and technical skills
Prog Death = multiple tempo song structures and sound experimentations
Exactly why I don't like tech death and love prog death
I love both
Spawn Of Possession
Brandon Smith yes!!! And Beyond Creation!
Why RIP? They are still active?
@@ocdy-gk9pw They're toast. It takes a lot of energy to fuel that kind of writing.
What about Spawn of Possession, The Faceless or the early sound of Decapitated??
the faceless
the faceless lolol
First two Psycroptic albums are among the best ever in tech death and death metal imo
@@brewtalityk Why tf are you laughing? Is The Faceless great now? Not really but Planetary Duality is top 3 tech death albums of all time and YES better than Psycroptic and I LOVE Psycroptic.
Yeah man, and early decapitated is SUPER important for tech death
faceless big time
Good to see Necrophagist on here. They’re from my area. Saw them opening for Entombed here in Germany before they recorded an album. Was really impressed & bought their demo tape at the show - still own it.
do you know what happened to them and why they don't make a new album
@@IbtissamTrabelsi Not really. For what I’ve heard Muhammed lost interest in making Death Metal, but I don’t know how accurate it really is tbh.
Watching this after the death of Sean Reinert, from Cynic and Death. R.I.P my brother.
Spawn of Possession?
Psycroptic, Beyond Creation, Spawn of Possession,....those should/could be here but no biggie. I think some of these Lock Horns debates can use a "Lock Horns Revisited" series where you guys can go back and look at the genres that were highly debated in the comments or whatnot and bring a new guest to give a fresh or different perspective while trying to slot in some bands maybe you guys just honestly forgot about or didn't have the most knowledge about(Demilich for ex.). I think this could definitely a viable genre for a revisit;)
Sam mentions every Death album except their MOST technical 'Individual Thought Patterns'. How did that album not get a mention wtf
@Matt T. it's more progressive but it's not more technical. Maybe If you're just talking about Chuck's solo's and the drums, yeah they probably are more technical. But actually many of the riffs are quite simple unlike ITP. Also the bass is way more technical in ITP, not to mention Andy's solo's.
I'm not shitting on TSOP because that's probably my favourite death album right now.
No Beyond Creation??
where do you think they got there influence from? Literally there sound is based around forest and the lead bass kind of stuff. Forest started playing bass because of non other Steve Digorgio himself then went on to replace him in quo vadis there sound is all driven from death and such as much other complexities they have dont get me wrong they are my favorite band in all honesty but you have to under stand where they come from and on the show they are showing staples in the genre to define it.
BEYOND CREATION
yes
Mmrg Beyond Creation are delicious.
some gourmet music
i was about to say haha you said it for me
very good
Spawn of Possession is a must have for a tech death list.
I would also like to mention Odious Mortem, Decrepit Birth, Deeds of Flesh, Psycroptic and I think you could include Dying Fetus
I wish these episodes were longer, so things could get a little more straightened out, but what are you gonna do? I think it's a bit absurd that Archspire made the list, while actual essential bands like Decapitated, Decrepit Birth, Demilich, Spawn of Possession and Psycroptic were entirely ignored. At least Origin made it in at the end, I was sitting here by myself, losing my shit that they weren't on the list. What happened to talking about where the genre is headed? You guys used to do that at the end of each episode; would love to have seen mention of bands like Blood Incantation and Chthe'ilist.
Hey Dustin thanks for the feedback. We have a few episodes go longer than an hour but what happens is it tends to devolve into a lot of shouting every band name free for all, it doesn't add much debate/discussion. We definitely do want to get back to talking about the future/great new bands at the end, thanks for the reminder. As for those missing bands all we can say is we made magnets and then not enough arguments were made for them! Blame the chat! :)
BANGERTV - All Metal Oh, I do blame the chat, believe me, haha
I can recall being in high school and arguing relentlessly with friends whether Psycroptic, Necrophagist or Spawn of Possession was the most technical DM band. good times. c:
That said, Yes Sam you got some homework to do in listening to Demilich - Nespithe. Enjoy!
Daemon Amdusias Or Origin?
I love me some Echoes of Decimation!
SPAWN OF POSSESSION. C’mon guys!
Why necrophagist deserves that first slot....they crazy technical...yet not chaotic....they are memorable and not just speed obsessed show offs....they are melodic yet not girly sounding. They are one of the only tech death bands that embodies all of those qualities. This why they got so popular...they are something more special and rare.
Ulcerate, there technicality actually scrambles my brain sometimes
Yeah, I am wondering if they even know them, like not any mention, review, nothing.
@@richardgamrat1944 and they're a 3 piece which is mind blowing
Avant Grande
What kind of "expert" selects a band like Archspire (which is not bad, but great?!) and Nocturnus and Dying Fetus (Which are surely great but not TDM) but doesn't mention really GREAT TDM bands like Anata, Spawn of Possession, Demilich, Decapitated, etc.?! You leave a lot to be desired - again.
I'll echo many others here by stating that leaving Spawn of Possession out of this is a crime.
Also, Nile does NOT belong on this list - love the band, but they fall more into the Morbid Angel school of old school death metal for me.
Frank Reid Nope. Been listening to Death Metal for most of my life and I actually did sound for Nile on one of the dates for their first big solo tour ( back when Pete Hammoura was drumming for them ). Don't get me wrong, they're very talented musicians and some of their songs have very techy parts but I still don't think they really belong on this list.
Damon Scott I strongly disagree even though I love the band. I make that comparison for two reasons: 1) lots of eerie, tremolo picked riffs 2) lots of slow, sludgy parts. You can hear the influence there, particularly on Nephren-Ka. You can disagree with me all you want but claiming that I "don't know what I'm talking about" is pretty goofy.
Well, fuck - I sure did kick a hornet’s nest here…
When I think of “Tech Death” as a subgenre, Nile is not one of the bands that springs immediately to mind and I’ll explain my reasoning at greater length now that I have the time to do so.
1) Like a few bands listed here, Nile started off more like a traditional Death Metal band - they did have the addition of Egyptian inspired melodies and some interesting symphonic elements ( which I’d actually argue was the most influential part of their sound ) but if you pay attention to the riffing and song structure on Amongst the Catacombs of Nephren Ka and Black Seeds of Vengeance you’ll find that it is fairly straight forward stuff. A few bursts of flashy playing here and there don’t make a band “Tech Death.” Nile started to edge closer to Tech with In Their Darkened Shrines and Annihilation of the Wicked - the riffing became more complicated and angular…so I’ll grant you that they eventually became a very technical band.
2) Suffocation belongs on this list more than Nile does for the simple fact that a lot of what became conventions of the subgenre, for me at least, have their roots in Pierced From Within. That record really built the template for what became modern Tech Death - rapid time and tempo changes, odd, off-kilter and angular riffs. I was a Junior in High School when that album came out and it blew me away - it was a complete game changer.
I’m not denying Nile’s musical skill at all. They’re a great band with a very consistent discography. My argument is more that I really don’t see a record in their catalog that I consider to be a true watershed moment for Tech Death and as such, I think their inclusion on this list is a little iffy.
I hope that clarifies my position here.
Abhorrent, First Fragment, Inferi, Virvum. Add these 4 modern tech death bands to the list. Give em a good listen too, very good bands
Check out flub
Sort of disappointed that Psycroptic didn't come up. They're a super riffy band with technical tempos, bridges and solos thrown into the mix with solid death metal growls layered over the top. Plus the guitarist in the Necrophagist clip is wearing one of their shirts and they're currently on tour in Europe with Dying Fetus.
Man, Winds of Creation by Decapitated is one of the best tech death albums ever. For that album alone they should be on here.
Blood mantra too
I think Decapitated definetly deserves to be on the list.
Definitely
how could they not mention Brutality!? their 1993 album Screams of Anguish is exceptional. Brutality is definitely an underrated Florida band that deserves more recognition.
Where the hell is Decapitated?
in jail on gang rape charges lol
brilliant
Decapitated is just a metal core band.
It's a bit weird that when they talk about influential bands of the 90s people don't usually consider monstrosity. It's not like George fisher joined cannibal corpse out of nowhere. Monstrosity is definitely a band that was influential for the rise of this genre. Their riffs where complicated by itself even if their songs weren't as manic as the atheist stuff but they definitely had this core death metal structure along with the complex riffs. Imperial doom was an album that came in 1992 which shows us that they were there right from the start. The bass work in epitaph by Stephan fimmers was heavily inspired by Kelly conlon's work on millennium with the bass licks and solos. Conlon also unsurprisingly played in symbolic so I do feel that this band needs love and recognition.
Maybe these guys need to do a tiny bit of homework but anyways love this show. Canada is this amazing Pandora's box when it comes to technical death metal and also home to bands that are older and more interesting than archspire in my honest opinion. Bands like quo Vadis (my favourite technical death metal band), beyond creation, neuraxis, martyr and augury. Though these bands aren't that obviously famous, they are definitely influential for the establishment of the genre.
Chirag Chittar I've always said that, monstrosity is technical as hell. Especially in those early albums but nobody ever seems to remember them when speaking of " technical death metal". Pat O'Brien said it himself and he's a shredder. " MONSTROSITYS stuff is very technical "
Yes pal you are 💯 right. They need more recognition and respect. It's not even just wankery. Their songs have a balance of good musicianship and great songwriting.
Yeah amazing band but I think I disagree. Maybe they are a bit more straightforward than some of these bands but the millennium era sounds pretty complex and technical to me. I do think they were really influential for many of these bands though
Frank Reid check out early albums
Luc Lemay is one of the coolest dudes in all of music, not just metal. I don't think Nile belongs on this list at all but I really dig them. Suffocation absolutely belongs here. I'm really glad Origin made it because their technicality is mind blowing.
S13 Gaming Nile really, that's interesting I've always considered them Tech. Sometime too tech and very a-tonal.
I've always thought of them as just regular Death metal with an Egyptian theme. I don't mean that to take anything away from them because I think they are great. And they also have the best liner notes I have ever encountered.
Ulcerate, psycroptic, demilich, Ad nauseam, martyr
Martyr is terrific
So fucking angry they didnt mention Ulcerate
SuperHamsterKing i know basically the most challenging ever
Wow, I forgot about Martyr, definitely technical throughout.
Spawn of Possession? WTF guys
Jesus Jimenez We had a magnet ready for those guys but the live chat users weren't arguing for it. Other than the Legend band the list is up to the viewers! Hope you can join us live sometime to get in on the debate.
IMO... Suffocation deserves a bit of love too in this theme, since Effigy Of The Forgotten they're were already a but "Tech"...
Are you kidding me! Pestilence belong on this list just because of Testimony and Spheres. And have you not heard Obsideo. So frustrating!
QUO VADIS IS ANOTHER GOOD ONE.
Oh hell yeah.
Archspire made a good album this year. It begins and ends there! They do not have the discography to deserve a spot here (their previous two albums were quite generic). I can't believe Archspire was chosen over a band like Demilich! Shocking!
not shocking at all when you consider most Banger fans are posers and hipsters, and they blocked most of the people who actually know metal. LOL They even blocked a few veteran metal musicians and vocalists!
Man I was scrolling down before watching to see if they’d mention Demilich; it’s really disappointing to see that they don’t get the respect they deserve. Nothing sounds like Nespithe 25 years later, and that is almost unheard of in any kind of metal.
I like Archspire quite a bit, but they have yet to release a Nespithe.
Demillich has its complexity to it but come on it gets to the point theirs a reason they haven't released an album in how many years? they arent that good yet nespithe has its place but its not enough to hold up the musicians themselves
Honestly, Archspire's Relentless Mutation was a step down from The Lucid Collective for me.
@@AwayAtKeyboard FINALLY SOMEONE AGREES WITH ME. Relentless Mutation is just too damn catchy and I'm not a fan of that.
Hey guys. I watched this after it was live, just want to say I love your channel. Locked horns is seriously my Sports Net. Thank you for coming out with a quality channel that I enjoy. Fellow Canadian. Keep up the good work!
How did Decapitated not get in this?
just because Decapitated did done something bad doesn't mean that they didn't deserve a spot on the chart,
their early albums are undeniably Tech Death and therefor it belongs there.
It's so sad that people even say that, they didn't do it, It was a plot 😢
The faceless, beyond creation, alkaloid, equipoise, first fragment, brought by pain... And many more... Where are these bands?
Have you heard flub
List looks hella weird without Spawn of Possession, and Psycroptic on there. (Debut albums in 2003 and 2001 respectively)
I feel like there wasn't put a lot of research into this episode (Especially when they both were like "who the hell is Demilich?") and that's a shame.
Nothing against Calum but, if I could've chosen the guest for today I would've gone with Brad from Aggressive Tendencies, as I feel like he's very well versed in Tech Death and could probably have brought some more to the table in terms of suggestions of bands to put on etc.
I can't agree more with you man. When Demilich and Pestilence were named, that guy's face was almost "what the fuck are them?". The same goes for Cynic.
@@danilhaes no excuse for that kind of reaction in the day n age of smart phones. They should have just look it up
Where the fuck is Decapitated?
It that Marco Minnemann playing drums in the Necrophagist clip? Incredible drummer! Necrophagist was also my "door-opener" in this genre, and I still love both their albums.
Death were always ahead of everyone. Leprosy has some super heavy stuff but also has some insane guitar work which other bands didn't get to for several years yet Chuck did it in two albums back to back years. But honestly Death has almost transcended all genres because they're so much more than just a death metal band or even a prog death metal band. Death is just Death.
Decapitated, Psycroptic & Dying Fetus should all be up there.
Beyond Creation & Spawn Of Possession too if Obscura is going up.
Why is nobody mentioning DECREPIT BIRTH????!!!
Do one for deathgrind
Brutal Death or Brutal Slam definitely has some individual sound ascetics that you will not hear on Melodic, Black, or even sometimes Tech Death.
Check out Abominable Putridity, Disentomb, Visceral Disgourge, Kraanium, or even Ingested to get a feel for some sick, raw, sledgehammer brutality. Remember it's only death metal lol
Why haven’t I ever heard badass band necrophagist until now! I’m missing out!
Maybe it's because I'm from Quebec but to me Martyr is a no brainer. They were on the map many years ago, awesome technicality, speed and musicality.
Also Quo Vadis
I miss them so much. At least Yanic and Steve DiGiorgio are together in Gone in April.
anyone browsing the comments looking for bands to try out, these are a bucketful of my favoured Tech bands, in no order whatsoever, that weren't listed;
vale of pnath, a loathing requiem, element, decrepit birth, psycroptic, spawn of possession, anata, first fragment, beyond creation, deivos, soreption, incinerate, monumental torment, arkaik, martyr, virulent depravity, burning palace, artificial brain, decapitated, cytotoxin, brain drill, odious mortem, internal suffering, hour of penance, defeated sanity, deeds of flesh, inanimate existence, job for a cowboy, anomalous, infinitum, wormed, hannes grossmann, virvum, aronious
some may be considered more technical/brutal DM, others may be more technical/progressive, but they're all fucking great IMO.
Atheist - Founders
Death - Pioneers
Necrophagist - Game changing and brutal
Spawn of Possession - Necrophagist on coke
Obscura - Ex-Necrophagist members
The Faceless - Two albums that blend it all
Decapitated - headbanging tech
Deeds of Flesh - Shifted to tech later and nailed it
Defeated Sanity - Most brutal AND technical band on the list
Dying Fetus - Every Album after Trey Williams just gets more technical
It’s hard to label a lot of these bands as just one genre. To me, it’s more about an album itself.
🤘
Damm u guys forget Spawn Of Possession,Pyscroptic and Decapitated!!!
Not even a mention of decapitated or gorod..gorod is a bit obscure but everybody knows decapitated and as far as I knew they were highly regarded in the tech death world.
Goulasch Goulaszcjovic, and I mentioned them as well (Gorod); "Process of a New Decline" is nuts, and awesome :).
Wowwww no spawn of possession???? WTF
Disappointed that there wasn't one mention of Decapitated in the show. They're in a world of shit right now, I understand, but a band with such importance in the tech-death realm deserves to be on here. Nihility and Organic Hallucinosis has some of the best drumming, riffing, shredding, gurgle vocals, and complex arrangements that the style has to offer! Regardless, great episode as always!
Folk metal is my specialty so here are my top 10 essentials:
Arkona "Goi, Rode, Goi"
Moonsorrow "Voimasta ja kunniasta" (or "Kivenkantaja", can't decide)
Eluveitie "Slania"
Ensiferum "Iron"
Equilibrium "Sagas"
Finntroll "Nattfodd"
Orphaned Land "Mabool"
Primordial "To the Nameless Dead"
Agalloch "The Mantle"
Korpiklaani "Tales Along This Road"
Archspire, First Fragment, Oblivion, Insanity, GIGAN
That is a really solid list they ended up with. I would not put them on the final list but still I am surprised that a band like Theory In Practice did not get at least a passing mention at some point. Theory put out some amazing stuff at the end of the '90s. Then again at least they mentioned Demilich I was happy hear that.
I'm surprised The Faceless aren't on here
Lot of old guys I guess.
Decapitated????
Artur B too rapey
lul
I only hear Death Metal.
I love all these bands, but planetary duality by the faceless changed the landscape for modern tech death that hadn't really been done since epitaph by necrophagist
((( !!! - PSYCROPTIC - !!! )))
finally someone
Just found this band, kick ass guitar!!!
@@jonatanpinadulucmusic yeah Scepter of the Ancients is fucking unbelievable. Don't care so much for the vocals after their first two albums when Chalky left the band ):
Deeds of Flesh?
Deeds didn't start out as tech death it took them a long time to not be a generic cannibal corpse
Beyond creation?
Hey guys, you forgot to put "Theory in Practice" from Sweden on the list !
yes, totally agreed!
We need a Funeral Doom Episode and a Slam/Brutal Death Metal episode!
Deeds of Flesh and Atrocity should be on the list
This episode should be done again. You guys did not do your homework well. SoP, Brain Drill, The Faceless, Beneath The Massacre, Psycroptic.. etc etc what about em?
You have a point with all of the other bands, but Braindrill is wwwwwwaaaaaannnnnnkkkk. The point of tech death is using intense technicality to advance expression. Braindrill is quite possibly the LEAST expressive band I’ve ever heard
I disagree with the Pestilence comments. Testimony of the Ancients and Spheres are Technical and Progressive with some Prog Rock (Concept, interludes) and Jazz Fusion leanings, they should definitely be on this list! The timing of these albums were paramount and made a huge impact on the newer bands that started in the late 90s and early 2000s. Consuming Impulse is a masterpiece in Death Metal and the band went and carried the torch even further.
I'm hella late to the party but I feel like this subgenre has had such an impact on how all of modern metal sounds that I'd like to see more content on it. Short of the osdm revival and more underground slam bands, tech death has infiltrated metalcore, deathcore, all different forms of more brutal death metal, and with bands like Keep of Kalessin, Vektor and Vale of Pnath even merging tech death with black/thrash/power metal it seems like it's foothold is just getting bigger.
Beyond Creation. Have just seen them live, and was blow away.
Rings of Saturn. The prog/avant elements are divine.
Almost every band regards Suffocation as one of the pioneers of Technical Death Metal. I also regard Decrepit Birth, Beyond Creation, Vale of Pnath, Cattle Decapitation, Origin, The Zenich Passage et al as Technical Death Metal bands.
They better not forget Pestilence album Spheres it has the tech sound plus the song Mind Relection.
Many great bands overlooked :
America : Decrepith Birth, Revocation, The Faceless.
Canada: Martyr, Beyond Creation.
New Zeland : Ulcerate
Sweden: Anata, Theory in Practice, Spawn of Possession
To my taste Ulcerate, Martyr and Anata in particular belong among the all time greats, along with Cryptopsy, Gorguts, Atheist, Death, Nile and maybe Obscura.
I'm not sure at all about Origin (whose virtuosity is beyond any doubt, though) and Archspire (very impressive band, but all too soon maybe).
Regarding Necrophagist, they (or should I say "he" ? ) were undeniably influential and deserve all the respect, but they can't be considered among the best by any means. I wonder how many of the ones who chamipon Necrophagist are really able to listen to ( and enjoy from beginning to end ) their albums in one sitting.
Just my honest thoughts. I accept discrepancy :)
. . . You lost me on your Necrophagist pov :p.
Thankfully we all think/perceive things in different ways. Anyway, if you are one of those people whom really can enjoy Necrophagist, I must confess that I envy you a little for that. :)
Out of all bands Necrophagist is the most listenable to me. Weird thing to say.
I listen to both albums regularly. Ive listened to both of them at least 15 times this year alone. And i still do not know all the song names by memory, because the music enchants me and draws me into it, leaving no space for “unnecessary” song names. They are masters without a doubt, incredibly well composed and imitated by many. Almost every tech death band adter necrophagist has drawn at least some inspiration from them. It might not be anyones taste but their achievements cannot be denied.
I was at an Atheist show in Bradenton Florida in 1992. They were performing material from the “ Unquestionable Presence” album before its release. Standing in the back of the
small club with his arms crossed and paying close attention was Chuck Shuldiner. It wasn’t far after that Chuck released “ Human”. Chuck was clearly influenced by Atheist and the technical drumming from Steve Flynn so he went and got Sean Reinert from Cynic and the rest is history!
What a great show. Great idea, killer execution. Subscribed.
Thanks! Welcome!
Did everyone forget The Faceless??
Any band with Hannes Grossmann and Christian Muenzner.
No mention for Spawn of Possession, Psycroptic, early Decapitated, Deeds of Flesh? I also think Archspire is too new to be on this list.
Human album by Death was the game changer in '91 Unquestionable Presence the game changer for Atheist was also released in '91
Moses Garner don't forget the cynic 1991 demo, true tech death
This is one of the most interesting episode. Love it. Hails from India.
So many tech bands are technical just for the sake of being technical, that complexity and technicality are the priority and any other musical considerations are often almost an afterthought, and many times musicality, and in some cases, TASTE, are sacrificed for the sake of technicality and some perception of what complexity is.
I think this is why Death IS so important, because they played complex music, they were technical, but as they grew in their ability to play and to write complex and technical music, they also developed their sense of musical tastefulness. Dynamics matters. Blast beats and breakdowns lose their impact when that's all that is being played, and all that is being heard by the listener.
Not having Decapitated on the list is absurd.
Just my opinion but Necrophagist is, was, and will always be the best tech death band.
For a band who last put out an album in 2004, people are still trying to get close to matching that record.
Not by band but by album:
1- Cynic (Focus)
2- Death (Individual Thought Patterns/ Symbolic/ Sound of Perseverance/ Human)
3- Sadist (Hyena/ Tribe)
4- Thormenthor (Abstract Divinity)
5- Sadus (Out For Blood)
6- Atheist (Elements)
7- Pestilence (Spheres)
8- Disaffected (Rebirth/ Vast)
9- The Ladder (The Mindless and Complete Stain)
10- The Ritual Aurea (Lanikaea)
defeated sanity is another excellent tech-death band!
Agree with others. How is Spawn of Possession not on this list?
For all you technical death metal fans: Check out Iniquity from Denmark, specifically 'Serenadium' and 'Five Across the Eyes'. Those are crazy impressive records, especially 'Serenadium' atmosphere-wise.
I also agree with Benjamin Lord, wheres Demilich??? That one album they put out back in 1992 I believe was so original and brutal, like when Kataklysm started out, they both sound like they are from another planet. Aliens came down to earth and started death metal bands gurgling in an alien language.
"to the nth degree" is also used here in the States.
Oh my god I love this channel. Actual quality TV show style with good hosts.
I was screaming Demilich throughout the whole fucking show, but it appears that no one knew who the Burp Metal Masters were....
Beyond Creation should be there. Decrepit Birth are worth a shout, too.
Can't believe I missed the technical death episode! Keep up the great work Banger one of my favorite channels!! \,,/ \,,/
Thanks man!
Death, Atheist, Cynic and Pestilence are the most notorious and important bands of the early 90s tech-death. I love Gorguts, but you can't name them before Pestilence, even the first 2 albums are VERY tech-death. Pestilence were there along with Death and Cynic, even toured with them. Testimony of the Ancients is one of the biggest tech-death statements ever. It was very popular in those years. The Spheres album is almost as important as Testimony. Some can say that people hated it but almost nobody liked Cynic back in the day (they toured with Cannibal Corpse around that time and they were almost spat by people who were there only to listen to CC). You can't talk about Suffocation, Nile, Cryptopsy, Origin, Obscura and Archspire before them (Obscura even took the incredible Jeroen Paul Thesseling on bass some years ago, who played on Pestilence' Spheres). Bands like Obscura and Archspire wouldn't even exist without Testimony of the Ancients and Focus.
Both guys were like "what the fuck is Demilich" and that's very sad. Nespithe is probably the most technical death metal album from Europe in the early 90s. And 25 years later you still can't find an album that sounds like it.
What a shame.
Dying Fetus and Cattle Decapitation
The line between tech and prog is pretty thin sometimes but these are just a few of my favorite Tech bands right now whom never seem to bore me:
Beyond Creation
First Fragment
Augury
Spawn of Possession
Soreption
The Zenith Passage
Virvum
Inanimate Existence
Just to name a few...
The Zenith Passage, Archspire, Beyond Creation, Unhuman, Singularity, along with Serdce and Cynic are my favorites. I especially like jazzy breakdowns and bass shredding / solos. My list is pretty new school though.
Beneath The Massacre. Never would've discovered tech death if it wasn't for them. Debut album is 10 years old now, still a banger.
I am so happy that Banger opened up the comments. People need to Lock Horns.
Eric Adams We welcome comments. Not sure what you've been hearing. We do use moderation to monitor and remove hateful threats to our talent. If you have a critique but can't make a point without resorting to that kind of thing that is unfortunate. But we don't remove negative comments or complaints about the videos. Especially not for a show called Lock Horns.
It wasn't what I was hearing. The chat replay was not available, and the comments were closed on the archived episodes of Lock Horns. I just checked a two one-year old episodes and the comments are open. Everything is good now. Thanks for the content!
Cool. We've only ever closed comments on one episode so they should always be open to go back and argue about!
Thanks! I actually just read the comments so that I can learn about music. Banger TV is the only place to go since That Metal Show was cancelled.
Because when 50% of your workday is spent monitoring one video which is being deluged with death threats and hate speech against your staff and guests by trolls who don't even watch your channel because you've become the Outrage of the Day, and you've got actual work to do. It was quite unfortunate but we will not let those kinds of comments live on BangerTV.
Cattle Decapitation? Also, it would be awesome if an essential album could be mentioned for each band. Thanks for being awesome!!!
Half of cattle decapitation s catalog are grindcore albums
They are a deathgrind band
Collage(or collision) death is a better term since it's basically mixing different styles of music together at higher speeds.