Early Death Metal Albums Debate with Blayne Smith | LOCK HORNS (live stream archive)
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- Опубліковано 26 кві 2017
- LOCK HORNS: ESSENTIAL EARLY DEATH METAL ALBUMS dives even deeper into Banger's Metal Family Tree to debate the 10 Top most important death metal records from the 1980s and 1990s. Host Sam Dunn welcomes back comedian BLAYNE SMITH to tackle this epic debate. Join us LIVE on Thursday April 27 at a special time of 3pm EST as we geek out on a whole new level. But don't forget: come ready to fight!
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Bolt Thrower - Realm of Chaos.
Nothing sounded like that in 1989. Criminally underrated.
WOOOOOORLD EEEATERRRR!!!!!
Any Death Metal list that doesn’t have at least one Bolt Thrower album on it is null and void. They are one of the top 5 dm bands ever.
@@neuroisis85 bt overrated
@@Angellisgod deluded
D.V.C. - Descendant Upheaval from 1989 I'd say comes close to the sound.
Dismember- Like An Everflowing Stream and Sinister - Hate
and Grave - You'll Never See ...
Pungent Stench?
@@Eilmstein Been caught Buttering
To be fair, both Dismember and Grave, while they emerged at the same time as Entombed/Nihilist, have the disadvantage of releasing their debut albums after 'Left Hand Path'. That album is the pinnacle of old school Swedish Death Metal. It set the standard for that entire subgenre. Back in those days the debut albums of Dismember, Grave and even Unleashed, while still considered good to great albums, were regarded as lesser attempts compared to Entombed.
@@thenecrosanct4906 Left Hand Path may be the first Sweedish DM album bu is not even the best Entombed album imo
Suffocation - Effigy of the forgotten
Grave - Into The Grave
are early-DM masterpieces
dude grave is fucking siiiick
Into The Grave is my all time favorite death metal album!
Grave definitely needs more love. My particular favorite band in the world
Would have liked these albums:
Gorguts - considered dead
carcarss - necrotisism
dismember - like an everflowing stream
bolt thrower - Realm of Chaos
Jimmy West
Considered Dead and I’d say Realm of Chaos or War Master or IVth Crusade, they could take their pick of Bolt Thrower.
Necroticism is unbelievable great. I miss it too here.
Obscura (98')
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@Yehuda Quinton Instablaster ;)
Bolt Thrower!!!
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Hey Bangers, a few more words of clarification on why the 1990s records were included in this show. We never called this an OSDM episode. We knew that we needed to split up the Death Metal Albums debate, because our Death Metal Band debate was so wide-ranging, and lots of great music was left out. We went back and forth about what "early" might mean, and found there was no specific cut off point that we could stand behind. 1991? 1993? Everyone would just argue about that. So we decided to make this 1980s and all the 1990s (knowing that this would be mostly early 1990s records.) And that a follow-up would go from 2000s onwards. Many of you are mad that mid-1990s records would be consider "early." But considering they are now around 20 years old, we think that qualifies in the bigger picture.
Also, we announced this from the start, in every post, and throughout the show. So don't get mad at Blayne for picking a record from 1995 like he was clueless or trying to pull a fast one! The 1990s was always going to be part of the discussion. Hope that helps clear things up from our end.
Mid 90's was not early for the genre tho, there was a clear shift in the mid 90's DM scene with many bands either splitting up or beginning to release sub par albums, it was the end of the golden period.
There's more death metal of the 90's than the 80's indeed
Well the end result was more 80s than 90s so dunno why ppl are getting all pissy. Morbid Visions replaced Slaughter Of The Soul. Who cares if one guy votes for At The Gates? As he explained, it's just his opinion & it got overturned.
Why no mention of Bathory? I mean in 1983 was there really anyone doing what they did? It was really the 1st Death metal album. That really should have been the starting point, wasn't a fan of them, I'm a Chuck guy, but let's give credit where credit is due.
Now, I know they are NOT death metal, but how does slayer not get mentioned here as the biggest influence in the early years of the entire metal genre as a catalyst. I mean the riffs, solos and drums are there.
Spiritual Healing and Individual Thought Pattern are killer records
Spiritual Healing is an underrated masterpiece.
Deicide's first one was an Absolute classic 🤘🤘☠️☠️😈😈
I'm angry for cannibal and deicide
Growing up near Tampa in the late 80/very early 90’s, that was my introduction into extreme metal. Didn’t know what to make of it at first, but quickly loved it. Alongside all the awesome bands from here, or ones that relocated here, to have that awesome Morrisound feel.
Yeah, no Corpse or Deicide??? WTF??
Couldn't agree more, it's among my top five death metal records of all time -- it just obliterates! A lot of metalheads just love jumping on the 'hate Deicide bandwagon' either because of the band's commercial success or due to Glen Benton's persona and great sense of humour.
Completely fuckin agree. I could listen to that album all day long
Hey I'm Blayne! To explain a little of the confusion that happened, the original plan was for early to be 80's and 90's because a clear break is hard to find, that's when I chose At the Gates. Whether you love'em or hate'em, they had a big influence on metal. By the way things shook out at the end they looked REALLY out of place and I took 'em down. A LOT of what we went on was from the live chat and comments on FB, so if you don't like it, get in the mix and change it! My revised pick would have been Bolt Thrower - Realm of Chaos. Blood for the Blood God! Skulls for the Skull Throne!
MetalComedy I think limiting it to 10 was what caused alot of confusing but also it should have been from the mid 80s to early 90s. I think it's fair to say that at this stage there is early, middle and modern eras of death metal... Also not including Cannibal Corpse for any reason is just ignorant. It's like not including Burzum in a list of essential black metal bands/albums.
You did great. Don't worry about the haters. Just because Slaughter of the Soul spawned its own subgenre doesn't mean it wasn't a death metal album when it came out.
Blayne, you're a great guest on this show and I hope you keep coming back!
You instantly won me over with your Bolt thrower / Nerd Shack love . Even if you were slamming cannibal
Yeah I think you made a slight mistake when choosing At The Gates - Slaughter Of The Soul for a guest choice. No question how good (screw you haters) and influental that album was but the genre was just wrong for a list called "Early Death Metal". When people speak of Early DM or "OSDM" people think of Death, Possessed, Pestilence, Morbid Angel and the likes, not Slaugher Of The Soul. Bolt Thrower would have been a spot on pick which no-one would have argued against, except maybe have a penis strething contest on what is their favourite BT album.
But when the Melodeath Essentials happen you'll get your revenge. :)
Here's my list (it's quite "floaty" but it doesn't vary that much)
Bolt Thrower: Realm Of Chaos
Carcass: Necroticism
Entombed: Clandestine
Death: Leprosy
Napalm Death: Harmony Corruption (no, it isn't a Grind Core album... it's 100% DM - the only in their catalogue but DM nonetheless)
Sepultura: Arise (DM with sparkles of thrash but pivotal nonetheless)
Cynic: Focus
At The Gates: Slaughter Of The Soul
Obituary: Cause Of Death
Morbid Angel: Blessed Are The Sick
Dismember - Like an Everflowing stream
Benediction - transcend The rubicon
The only Band where u give all songs on a playlist and never skip a song……...DEATH
Agreed, but fuck a playlist. Most of these albums are worhty of the whole listen!
Possessed did "ignite", I was there..we were ready to jump ship from thrash bands and craved their dark, fast, and heavy sound..the division had begun. Ross Dolan of Immolation told me in 1995 that seven churches by Possessed was his favorite album.... Not bad from the band that I believe now carries the death metal torch the highest.
Possessed seven churches had awesome riffs with maniacally driven repeating single note harmonies. Vocals were both raspy and powerful ( not the subdued Cookie Monster cookie cutter garbage that limits the forcefulness of the sound) not only that, Jeff Becera had a range of rasp that highlighted the lyrics and is something the genre needs.
Awesome show.Blayne is one the best guests, hire the guy!
Much appreciated!!
Oh, hi Mark. Shut the fuck up and fuck the fuckin fuck off.
Lord Mark agree with you 100%. Unless you were born in the 90’s, why would you call “Slaughter of the soul” oldschool? Not even their early albums were “oldschool” AT ALL
'Gardens of Grief' is pretty old school.
No to Sepultura.
No to Pestilence.
Yes to Asphyx, the Rack.
Yes to Bolt Thrower, War Master.
The first death metal album I ever bought influenced me is Obituary's Slowly We Rot. Still love that album and listen to it regularly 30 yrs later.
One of my favourites.
Good job mentioning the very BEST of Florida death metal: Morbid Angel, Death, and Obituary. There were others, but these three were absolutely the best.
I would replace Obituary with Cannibal Corpse. Obituary is still great though
@@BDeClue18 not a Florida band and not as good.
Hekate's Flame They were only in Buffalo for a short while then permanently moved to Tampa Bay. And as for who’s better to each their own. I like their instrumentals and vocals so much better.
Death shits on all the other bands from that time imo
Massacre
Sam, please do LOCK HORNS on Death albums.
This ^^^. Love to hear people fight over death albums. It's either scream bloody gore/leprosy/spiritual healing fans, human/ITP fans or symbolic/sound of perseverance fans. I'd have to pick between human or symbolic, how about you?
YES THIS!!^^^^
Animal Pak It's hard to choose one but I think Sound of Perseverance is my favourite.
Why? choose the 5 best album from a band that did 7 albums? I love Death but I don't understand the point of doing a lock horns on them (felt the same about Mastadon even though I have been a fan for years)
Animal Pak Spiritual Healing and Symbolic are my favorites, lol
NECROTICISM - DESCANTING THE INSALUBRIOUS
mighty matafaking carcass!!!
Eaten Back to Life should be up there Cannibal made death metal what it is today. giving credit to Chuck for starting the genre. Skull full of Maggots generated the sound that different from thrash. Bands like NIle and Immolation get their sound from cannibal also Chris and George both made the typical vocals of Death metal
This would have for sure been my pick over Heartwork. Heartwork is an amazing album, with the not just the melodies but also the shift away from horror topics to more personal lyrical themes having a huge influence on later death metal. But Necroticism was their first album to make the break from goregrind into death metal, and it's really THE FIRST melodic death metal album. The solos are instantly hummable, and the grooves are just fucking massive! If you don't go nuts for Incarnate Solvent Abuse and Corporeal Jigsore Quandary, then something is fucking wrong with you!
Indeed
Whilst its considered Thrash, I consider Slayer's Reign in Blood to be a contender. The lyrical content alone should qualify it. It doesn't have to be guttural vocals alone. Surely Reign in Blood was at least a big influence no?
I think Effigy of the Forgotten is more essential than Morbid Visions and None so Vile. and a bit surprised Erosion of Sanity didn't get a mention.
I totally agree that effigy should have made the list, oh well. I can't agree with the erosion of sanity, despite it being one of my favorite death metal albums ever. Even though it kicks fucking ass, it's a suffocation clone at the end of the day(does suffocation better than suffocation). It didn't influence anyone because no one gave a shit about it when it came out, kind of was condemned to obscurity ;)
100% agree
As much as I love the first two Cryptopsy albums, they have no place up on that board.
Pestilence & Sepultura aren't nearly worthy of a top 10. Top 20? Probably, but not top 10. None so vile & effigy should've taken they're places.
@Macrocrash11Dude do you even know the significance & influence of that record? It paved the way for the slam death metal we know today. Also Lord Worm on that record created the benchmark for slam & BDM vocals.
33:30 actually, Slowly We Rot was written in E standard tuning, which I think it shows that Obituary is that much better because they were able to be that heavy in standard tuning
People always forget about Gorefest, False is such a masterpiece.
I don't I am with you.
Why not Mindloss?
Mindloss is older so it would fit better in this debate, but False is superior.
No i didnt
Mindloss... one of my favs in the 90's, listened to it every day for months straight.
"Slaughter Of The Soul" is a classic but not for this episode.
I was thinking maybe "Necroticism" for this list. You're right about "None So Vile". Tremendous album that doesn't belong here. "Tomb Of The Mutilated" is a stone cold classic.
Yeap...slaughter of the soul is...melodeath..
Bul Elangbam melodeath is still death.
My only complaint about this album has always been that the songs were too short. I agree it feels a little out of place here. I think the limit should have been up to 1995 or even 1994. The genre matured and gave way to a lot of sub-genres pretty quickly.
Chris B it almost felt very thrashy. Recall how short the songs were on Slayers reign in blood.
The Bleeding by CC is widely considered one of their best and most essential records, that should have been a no brainer. They unfortunately get a lot of hate because death metal is full of elitists who jump on the bandwagon of hipster-esque thinking (oh they're popular or mainstream, I can't like them now). Cannibal Corpse is not a joke, they're just campy and it's what makes their music fun to listen to, much like a good b-horror movie. Taking it too seriously will taint your opinion on them for sure, it's unfortunate they get hate because they are super consistent, technical, catchy, and brutal all at the same time.
They are my favorite traditional death metal band
Thank you someone who gets it
Cannibal rules, the Bleeding would be so much better with a different vocalist. Barnes fucking ruined that record.
Every cannibal record shuld be on any death metal list.they are the definition of death metal
I don’t get CC, it all sounds so bland
Mortification's Scrolls of the Meggiloth is an extremely underrated classic. It's brutal and in your face, production is great, riffs are fantastic, vocals are monstrous, and just generally kicks major ass. They get overlooked or straight up ignored because they're Christian, but few records from that time period did the crushing, grind influenced death metal of the early 90's better.
Will93 it’s a sick ass album I love it
Blayne says Altars of Madness is one of the few albums from that time that actual sounds good production wise.. WHAT?? Are you on crack dude? Tons of those early albums sound AWESOME
Lance SkulKrusher haha Fenriz says that everyone hated the production when it came out. All subjective
Lance SkulKrusher music is a subjective experience dude, there’s no right or wrong, it’s all opinions. What sounds good production to him sounds bad to you sound ok to me etc etc
@@Grimeyhoob is production that subjective tho? scream bloody gore sounds shitty even if i love the sound of that album.
@@gobuns2 yes, I really think so, because honestly to me, even though there's an obvious difference in the production in all these albums, I still think the album's sounds as good as it is
@@gobuns2 i think the shitty production helps tho it makes it sound more brutal than the other death albums imo and the screams are the best on that album as wel
This is such a great idea! I like hearing metalheads discuss what they think about all the classic albums in each subgenre. It's cool to hear all the different perspectives.
Effigy of the Forgotten was hugely influential for tech and BDM, not to mention it was the first album to utilize slam riffs. Also say what you want about cannibal, they're also hugely influential vocally and lyrically.
I'm just getting into extreme metal, it's an awesome journey discovering (new to me) artists. I'm kicking myself for not being into or aware of this kind of music back in the mid/late 90's when I used to work in a music store.
How the hell were Immolation and Incantation not even mentioned?
Ken Wheeler right!! Huge fucking disappointment.
surprised to see no love for Malevolent Creation. Definitely my fav of the early bands
Exactly, The Ten Commandments was an instant classic when it came out and helped define the Florida style. Also Brutality would have deserved a mention.
Ten commandments fckn the shit props for buff.r.I.p.brett!!
its probably because of MC's "problematic" views, which is stupid. let the music speak for itself.
I don't know why but I really love Eternal it's awesome
You are surprised? Really? With these SJWs?
No Immolation? No Gorguts? I would have also mentioned Demilich and Timeghoul for creating a complete different spin on death metal and they were for sure essential and early. Oh well.
Massacre - From Beyond
Master - s/t
Feels like people forget the important ones
of course
"Important" is completely subjective. All that exists are favourites.
Master always gets left out
Syklone False. The important albums are the ones that have made the most impact. That’s not the same as favorite. Some albums are more important than others.
@@Syklonus No. Important albums are the ones that inspired people to make music / influenced styles of other bands / shaped new genres. That's totally objective.
DEICIDE essential - nothing sounded like their first album (despite what they did afterwards)
Other essential bands ....Death, Obituary, Morbid Angel, Pestilence
+ no german bands ? Morgoth and Atrocity?!?
Yes .....their debut is what got me into this genre...this album as well as others is essential..the early 90's is when the genre picked up it's pace
Morgoth and atrocity are just amazing...along with Paralysis-Patrons of the Dark
Obituary!
Both bands are pinnacles of death metal of the era. Celtic Frost, I have just gotten into. I think they influenced many as well. Great video, as usual, Banger. :)
Wow I just realized that Massacre wasn't even mentioned during this. I'm guilty I didn't think of them.
Gorguts as well. Ridiculous lol.
They did mention gorguts they had luc le may talk
To be fair the live chat wasn't agreeing on which albums from those bands
Death - Leprosy, Morbid Angel - Altars Of Madness, Obituary - Slowly We Rot, Cannibal Corpse - Eaten Back To Life, Entombed - Left Hand Path were the essential blue prints of early Death Metal from the late 80's.
Damon Scott some of those LHP songs were on earlier Nihilist demos.
Carcass - Necroticism belongs on this list for sure
I'm not sure they're death.
@@warrendchild yes it is death . .
Hey loved this show, it was exactly what I was hoping you'd do this week. Just a quick suggestion: in the future when you do more essential albums or any lockhorns I would suggest not putting the graphic where you see the final list in the intro. Seeing the list right away for the archived version completely gives away what will end up on the list! Hearing the arguments and debates is still fun, but it's just a little spoilery.
Keep up the great work!
Awesome chanel, great job guys! Glad u mentioned At the gates! Maybe Bolth Thrower The IVth Crusade should be in the ten!
Cheers
Gorguts
Immolation
Grave
Atheist
Cynic
Incantation
Nocturnus
...
You guys forgot some
NazhaStory fuck yes atheist
GRAVE for life
Cannibal Corpse? "Edgy gore for the sake of it?" DA FUQ IZ RAWNG WIT DAT?!!! Death metal is fun! Let them be fun! Even some of the earlier death metal bands sounded more like thrash with "death metal techniques," but Cannibal Corpse, even now, sounds like they are trying to stay brutal without transitioning too far into melodic or tech death, both of which I do enjoy. Not my number one death metal band in general, personally, but one that always sticks around with me. And yeah, Suffocation and Dying Fetus (unless DF is in the tech death video).
commenting on the archive benn watching your vids all night you guys have great style on the live stream though like y'all kill it incorporating the chat good work
Thanks man!
Really enjoying these Lock Horns sessions. Please do a debate on the top 10 death/thrash albums. Bands like Demolition Hammer, Morbid Saint, and albums like Sepultura - Schizophrenia and Sadus - Chemical Exposure.
No cannibal corpse was a mistake. The argument of the album pick is okay but once you have criptopsy and pestilence on the list...
beyond your silly whining you literally made the point why CC wasn't included again: WHICH album. 4 albums can in no way fit on this list. There just weren't overwhelming mentions of a single album. If you want to change it, write comments on fb, twitter or the chat.
DeliciousDishes the same problem with the first death albums but they just picked the first. Eaten back to life would fit there perfectly. Funny that they said that cc and decide are the biggest death metal bands and are always in the media and care more about aestetis than music when I think it's completely the opposite, they have such an exposure for being the biggest death metal bands because they make good music.
Exactly, Death has the same problem. But as they mentioned, they included the first because it was the literal FIRST real dm album. CC doesn't have a special case like that.
If you actually think that you get exposure and big in the music scene for making good music, then look around you more than 5 seconds. CC are big because they are (comparatively) easy to digest, had a lot of controversy and have edgy song titles and album covers.
Pestilence is incredible, wtf are you talking about?
DeliciousDishes
Necrophagia's "season of the dead" was the first full legnth death metal album it was released 3 months before scream bloody gore.
Atheist 'Unquestionable presence' (1991) is another essential early death metal album. It had a big influence on the prog death subgenre, and more importantly, still kicks ass.
Also, Napalm Death were very important in europe in their transition to death metal, with Harmony corruption, and Utopia banished.
BANGER is by far the best metal channel on UA-cam. Lock Horns is incredibly insightful and enlightening. Keep up the great work.
Its amazing how such advance and great albums were made by teenage guys sometimes without any music backgrounds
the removal of Effigy at the end there was fucking stuuuuuupid.
Where would you place Bolt Thrower?
I think that doing a Lock Horns where you had to rank the Death albums in a specific order would be awesome, cuz that would really get heads spinning
I would definitely put the Unleashed debut Where No Life Dwells instead of Sepultura and Cryptopsy. Released in 1991, that album made a huge impact on death metal, and paved the way for new bands especially in Europe. Also the song Before Creation Of Time was the first metal hit that came from the death metal genre.
they are definitely great
Do family tree episodes on Tech death and Brutal Death!
Tour 1995/96: Morbid Angel (with Dave), Dissection, At the Gates.
FUCK YES! I see the Raging Death compilation up there! Sadus’ Kill Team is so gnarly. This is also where I heard of Obituary (called Xecutioner here), all those years ago. Is Marty Eger still around ?
Great show guys...Agree with the final list for the most part. I was 15 when I first saw Morbid Angel on their Altars tour with Sadus and Dismember in Europe and that's why I would like to have seen Like an Everflowing Stream by Dismember up there...special place in my dark heart! And being from Austria (now in Toronto) Pungent Stench's "For God your Soul" was seminal also....This genre makes it really tough to compile a best of list! Stay heavy!
Bolt Thrower should have been there.
It got me in to metal, first metal I ever listened to.
It should have been there because you like it? That's pretty arrogant dude.
Napalm death's harmony corruption is also very good
Julian Gonzalez good, yes. essential? not sure. not sure how many site that album specifically as a huge influence
Derek Albert yeah I see what you're saying , but I mean it is good if you like old school death metal like morbid angel, obituary, and death.
Derek Albert Agreed good but essential not so much. Being more known for grindcore is the main reason why their most death metal album wouldn't be added. But in my opinion it is their best album.
Napalm Death, all of their early stuff, is VERY ESSENTIAL. We would not have death metal without them.
I agree 100% They both influenced each other. In many ways, they created each other. Without E.N.T., Repulsion and Terrorizor, you wouldn't have Morbid Angel and Death. Everyone forgets that Matt Olivo and Scott Carlson of Repulsion played in Death with Chuch Schuldiner. And Tony Norman of Morbid angel played in Terrorizer.
Great episode (I'm really late to this show)
Was really amazed to see no one mention Like An Ever Flowing Stream by Dismember. Along with Entombed Left Hand Path I think you have the 2 definitive Sunlight Studios albums. Certainly more worthy than Cryptopsy and Possessed (and I love both those albums). Certainly a tough list to put together.
Also I'm pissed at my careers advisor, I should have been told talking all day about metal is a career option!!!
I'm pretty happy with that list (would switch out Cryptopsy for Bolt Thrower - Realm of Chaos) , and all that artwork next to eachother just looks friggin awsome!
In the 90's Chris Barnes vocals were one of the best, if not the best! Tomb of the Mutilated is an absolute genre defining DM release.
Ive always loved the bleeding and chris vocals are insane on that album. Tomb of the mutilated would be the next album i love.
Slaughter Of The Soul is great and is for sure Death Metal (may have influenced Melodic Death for sure), but it is not an EARLY Death Metal album. The title should have been "Essential 80's and 90's Death Metal albums"
I guess in the grand scope of death metal (let's say starting in '85, to be generous, to 2017), Slaughter of the Souls is *relatively* early. I do agree it's a kind of a stretch though.
Slaughter of the Soul, along with None so Vile, are essential to a "second round" of death metal, as the style really started spreading its wings around 1994/1995 and expanding.
***** not saying it is a GREAT album. I like it but it is weak for the melo death style IMO, but there is no denying how influential that album was on later bands. Dark Tranquility and In Flames had much stronger albums at the time, just SOTS gets the nod by many.
Gardens of Grief.
Great Episode !! thanks guys ! inspired me to check out some of these albums ! As a more prog and old school thrash fan its about time i check out some of this detuned growling shit ! cheers
We want more Blayne Smith!!! This guy is really entertaining and knows his stuff.
No one mentioned Cancer! "Death Shall Rise" is my personal favourite of OSDM, but i don't know if it was so "big" in early 90s thou...
Mediocre album that benefitted from the production. The replay value isn't too good either.
Great album but I was the only one that I knew that listened to it back than
Hung drawn and quartered is my favorite song by them.
Prefer To The Gory End?
Morbid Visions came out in November of 86...not 87 lol
Very good.
I put only the Mordid Vision of Sepultura released in 86. I believe this album had a direct influence on the construction of Death and Chuck.
Malevolent Creation’s “Retribution” is one of my favorite all time death metal albums!
they might include some early death metal next time :)
Scream bloody gore is still one of if not the best death metal record of all time
Obituary’s The End Complete got me into Death Metal. My dad had it on tape, I got my hands on it in fourth grade (1995) and listened to it religiously... after that I was hooked... for life.
@CK R Hell yes Obituary are the godfathers of death metal.Love the songs Dead Silence and Killing Time.
When I started getting into death metal, it was At the Gates that gave me the gateway (haha!), then my cousin gave me a stack of albums; most of them are here! Alters of Madness, Left-Hand Path, Consuming Impulse, Human, Heartwork and Slowly We Rot - still play them all the time.
80's/90's production is better than current, everything now sounds the same and over produced
It would be awesome to have a blend of the two eras. The cleanliness and clarity of todays recordings with the rawness and realness of the early 90's. I know that doesn't make perfect sense but it does in my head.
@@erikh3867 listen to skeletal remains
@@nickDOTbloc Nice recommendation, instant fan. Cheers mate
The only good thing about the new production is getting your guitar tone perfect and you get those crunchy palm mutes. But that's about it.
Baphomet: the dead shall inherit& necrophagia: season of the dead deserve honorable mention
Baphomet is great
Coroner needs to get some love. Their first three are classics.
My top 10 early death metal album
1. At The Gates - Slaugther of The Souls
2. Pestilence - Consuming Impulse
3. Dismember- Like An Everflowing Stream
4. DEATH - Leposy
5. Entombed - Left Hand Path
6. DEATH - Scream, Bloody Gore
7. Massacre - From Beyond
8. Grave - Into The Grave
9. Sepultura - Chaos A.D
10. carcarss - necrotisism
I just want your opinion on why you think Like an Everflowing Stream is more essential than Left Hand Path since the former was inspired by or appeared after the latter and also Dismember, to me, always sounded like a clone of Entombed
wow I am pretty hurt that Cannibal Corpse was taken off the list. I assume it was mostly for not being able to get it down to one album, which is understandable since they have lots of them. so that said cannibal corpse deserves their own episode. the BIGGEST band in death metal, arguably the best live, shit man.
Yup, no consensus was the real reason. It split the vote. A whole episode dedicated to CC is a great idea.
They have a huge discography and a debate about Barnes/corpsegrinder preference would be interesting, myself being a corpsegrinder enthusiast. I look forward to it guys!!! Love the channel!!!!
BANGER I could get behind a CC specific episode. not a real fan of the band but would be a great way to learn more about them.
deathmonger420 their first one is essential..after that it's just cookie cutter shit
***** cookie cutter? Nah
Decide is my favorite band but Legion is the essential album. Glen Benton's vocals are not fully evolved but it is closer to what it sounds like today. Riffs galore crushing and brutal. Scott Burn's masterpiece. The bass isn't overwhelming but is audible. Legion is essential.
@ Tj Caruthers Gonna have to disagree with you about Legion.First off the bass was overwhelmingly horrible on Legion.Secondly Benton's vocals have never matched the levels he achieved on their first album.Thirdly they have never come close to the overall savagery of their first album.I think after their first album they lost their sound and have never found it.
@@jeremyboehm5512 there is something that we called creativity and inovative progression to avoid boredom of doing the same thing all over again in your intire life ok,... And human needs is always be evolving and changing through their never ending satisfaction to their early achievement..
For me their albums even get better and better sounds arrangement and compositions..
What exactly is death metal? And if it began with SBG, then what do we call the even earlier releases from Sepultura and Possessed? I've heard Chuck in a video state outright that he doesn't feel his band were the originators but that this music goes back to Venom and Hellhammer, etc.
I'm only just watching this, great show, but it's amazing that's already 30 minutes in and no Altars of Madness!
Woah! That last second change taking off Suffocation, not cool Blayne. Not cool!
Possessed should've been put at the top of the board as proto-Death Metal.
Switching Suffocation with Cryptopsy? That's BS, Suffocation have been far more influential, even creating a whole subgenre (Technical Brutal Death Metal).
HideousConformity I wouldn't even attach proto to that, because they were death metal, period.
My intro in to death metal was Napalm Death; Scum & I still listen to that album 20 years later. That would be my essential early death metal album.
Death was always amazing for me, the music was amazing and I loved chuck. I loved the sound of perseverance the most. Especially spirit crusher.
CANCER "Death shall rise"! First death metal band that I had heard.
Vader - De Profundis should be on this list, that record is as classic as it gets, also has the best production of any death metal record I have ever heard.
Yes ! This killer record deserves more recognition. Vader is such a good band. Their drummer Doc was so mind blowing !
Firstly love the show guys. Entombed-"Left Hand Path", Carcass-" Necroticism...", Obituary-" Cause of Death", Morbid Angel-" Covenant ", At The Gates-" Terminal Spirit Disease". X.
Hell yeah, great episode. I think Blayne may be my favorite guest, I was rooting for Bolt Thrower in there too, they're fucking legendary..
Okay, so, Cannibal Corpse, we heard all the arguments for and against by now. Let's try something different by putting it to the vote.
Question: should Cannibal Corpse be on the essential early death metal list?
- Yes, with Tomb of the Mutilated
- Yes, with The Bleeding
- Yes, with another album
- No, not at all
Vote by replying to this comment!
*EDIT*
Results up until now:
- Yes, with Tomb of the Mutilated: 1
- Yes, with The Bleeding: 2
- Yes, with another album: 0
- No, not at all: 0
Yes, with tomb of the mutilated
Yes, with The Bleeding. :)
Alexander Vandecaveye yes The Bleeding.
Yes, tomb of the mutilated
So I'm from Switzerland... You Guys also know Celtic Frost ?
This is real early Death Metal. I agree on Death too..Chuck forever !
We sure do!
Perhaps in future they could follow this up with a debate on classic death metal demos (and 7"s, promos and EPs). Demos where so important in death metal. Demo trading is really where the death metal scene took off. So many classic bands never released albums (Nirvana 2002, Pentagram, Terminal Death, Necrovore, Dr Shrinker...), and many other bands released demos which were better than their albums (Gorefest, Dismember, Disgrace, Master, Afflicted...)
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how the fuck isnt immolation here?!the fuck......
Isaac Zaladar Already saw one reply but yes Dawn of Possesion was awesome.
Dude Here In After is one of my all time favorite death metal records
PorscheJon is innovative as opossed to none so vile.....
agree
i would toss at the gate in the dumpster to make room for immolation
Why does everyone always take a shit on Cannibal Corpse?!
I have never understood that.
Cannibal Corpse is iconic and classic. I definitely think Tomb of the Mutilated should have been on the essential. It is catchy, gory, nasty, and helped spread the awareness of Death Metal to the world.
People complain, because they say that the band haven't evolved much and they have plenty of forgettable albums (Even though many other great metal and rock bands have that issue, but don't receive nearly as much flak). Plenty of their early stuff is worth checking out for anyone interested in Death Metal.
They are not one of my absolute favorites, but they are essential because of their influence and iconic status. They may not be the most innovative, but they deserve a place in a top 10 for sure. At least they got honorable mention.
I personally really love the production of those early death metal records. Really raw and honest, big sounding drums, plenty of that old school reverb, unique and gritty guitar tones and vocals. I feel like death metal has gotten a bit too cleaned up today for my liking. But hey, that's just me
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yes
The only thing I have to say is that Cannibal Corpse is my favorite band.
There is a reason why Obituary's 3rd album was titled The End Complete.
If you don't know and you haven't listened to it. It is the greatest death metal album ever written recorded and produced. Production is absolutely stellar packaging might be the best looking death metal cover ever you can stare at it for 20 years and still find stuff in that picture. Every single track is perfection in the true style that death metal was supposed to be before it went off the extreme cliff. Give it a relisten you'll understand. The End Complete...meaning no more shall come after.
Help! I like slow tempo, bluesy, melodic metal. No fast noisy stuff. Any recommendations? Thank you, my metal friends.