Pre Arrival - 2nd Alarm Structure Fire On Cumberland Crt - Tecumseh Fire On Scene
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- Опубліковано 6 бер 2022
- 11:00am - Tecumseh Fire Crews were on scene of a fully involved attached garage fire in the 500 block of Cumberland Crt. Crews had heavy fire conditions on arrival. O.P.P. on traffic control & Essex-WindsorEMS was on standby. Damage is over $500,000. OFM notified.
1st Alarm
Engine 1, Truck 1, Rescue 1, Chief 2
2nd Alarm
Engine 2, Rescue 2, Chief 3
Others:
5 O.P.P.
Essex-Windsor, 1123, 1332
Hydro & Gas Company’s - Авто та транспорт
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I wish there was more video of the incident. The VFD folks have my respect. They go out there call after call with no pay and little thanks. There's always something to be learned from every call but training before hand is always best. Keep up the good work.
Why, why, why doesn't the first-in engine company park a bit closer and hit that garage HARD with the deck gun? Would've been VERY effective on this blaze.
Not only that but their parking blocked the road. and the Tower ladder couldnt get by as well as anyone else now. That was horrible placement of the engine. Driver needs smacked
@@benjaminburns2641
You need to be smacked for acting like you have a clue what you are talking about
Gotta love you pretend firefighters.... "Why did'nt they use a deck gun?" 🤣😂😅
@@virgilhilts3924 Wow! You were even useless a year ago. You sure are consistent.
@@JB91710
I say the word "pretend firefighter" and just like magic JB shows up 😆😅😂🤣
Excellent job. Fairly quick knockdown from interior. Dig it. Only issue I saw was access for the truck.
They truck could have came in, if required, from the other side.
I think they did a great job knocking the fire down.
I love how PD and EMS park so close to the scene and block out required apparatus?
PD AND EMS BLOCKED THE STREET ? I SAW POLICE CARS PARKED OFF TO THE SIDE OF THE ROAD. FIRST DUE ENGINE STOPPED IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD PREVENTING THE TOWER LADDER FROM BEING ABLE TO GET INTO A POSITION OF OPERATION. THATS WHAT I SAW.
@@georgecahill4792 Yes, PD and Ambo parked in terrible places. The Engine Has to also deal with the heat of the Fire, not just fire itself. They could have moved to their right a little to let the Ladder get to their left to set up, if needed. They only go up and spray when defensive, this one is still offensive.
Including the engine
I’ve seen several videos recently where the first due engine stops short of the incident. It seems no other equipment can get past them and it keeps the trucks from getting into proper position. Is this something being taught for a certain tactic? We pull past the house to give the officer a three sided view and get the truck (toolbox) at the front door and position an additional engine behind the truck for more hose/water. Am i missing something?
Apparatus placement was good imo don't park downwind of the fire if you can avoid it visibility sucks and you breathe in alot of unnecessary smoke , the preconnects off the crosslay beds should be 200feet so plenty of line , its hard to gauge from a video but a house that is fully involved puts off alot of heat you would be surprised how far you can feel it.
@@engineco.1494 neh...blocked the whole street...everyone parked behind em.....ladder placement? Tower ladder use....we're afraid of a lil heat ...out in the street??
If you were an actual firefighter you would know why they stopped where they did
@@virgilhilts3924 bad placement for first in block the whole street ( 36yrs firefighter) .should have turn on side street went pass house leaves room for ladder truck also allows for other units in case of exposure problems
@@tonyparrozzo69
Now it's 36 years...?
You should really work on keeping your lies straight 🤣😂😅
How many FD's were you rejected by before you finally gave up on your dream of becoming a firefighter?
Do you still get that icky feeling in your tummy every time you see an engine roar by, roof lit up and siren wailing, knowing you'll never get to do that?
Town of Tecumseh has volunteer fireman...not paid "experienced" workers. Our guys are always "on call" and do a wonderful job. They should be commended for their tireless (unpaid) work, not ridiculed for their "lack of knowledge" in taking down a fire.
You say that until it's your house burning down. Then you'll want to know why they didn't do a better job. In this case, they definitely could have done better. Looking at those homes, the tax base should be enough to have a paid crew.
Lack of knowledge of taking down fire could become very deadly. I was a volunteer firefighter for over 20 year's. Never have I seen such poor apparatus placement. You can see the amount of apparatus being blocked. You always leave a place for the ladder truck to set up is needed. If not leave it at the station it's no good there.
Your "unpaid" statement is incorrect. Tecumseh firefighters are unionized and are currently paid at the rate of $32.91 per hour for firefighting and $22.52 for non-firefighting duties. This information is available to anyone by visiting the town website. To be clear, volunteers spend their time coaching hockey, on school council, or sorting food at the food bank, and don't take home a dime let alone a dollar for their efforts. On the other hand, firefighting, whether full-time or part-time, is a job, and should be done well, whether by part-timers or full-timers.
Being a volunteer is not an excuse for incompetence. Learn your craft.
They saw the hydrant. So why didn't they move the truck to the front of the house and turn the DECK GUN on the fire. They could have knocked most of this fire down in a couple of minutes with the deck gun. The supply line could have been up and running by the time they ran out of tank water. Even if they did, within another minute they should have had water again.
Good quick aggressive fire attack, that engine crew really got water flowing fast. A great response
Brave souls... fighting fire from their phones and keyboards....never ceases to amaze me.
I have over 20 year's in the fire service. So it's safe to say I've battled a structure or 2 in my lifetime. Anything from residential to commerical.
@@stephenmather8513 29 years here.
@@stephenmather8513
Your comments indicate otherwise
@@virgilhilts3924 explain how that is.
@@stephenmather8513
I just did
Piss poor apparatus placements,
that was ,y friends house they are doing good!!!
Looks like they need to work on apparatus placement. E1 and the chief had everything blocked. Makes no sense.
Look at the wind direction the captain positioned the truck out of the smoke.
@@firsq so he didn't want his truck in the smoke he blocks access for the rest of the assignment. Pull down the side street or park behind the engine not alongside it.
@@stephenmather8513 other apparatus came from the other direction. The officer in command made a decision in the moment. Being a backseat quarterback is easy
@@firsq as a commander you need to think out every move you make upon arrival. It will effect the entire incident. How do you know apparatus approached from the other direction? All the video show's is a bottle neck of apparatus being blocked by command vehicle. With over 20 year's in the fire service I can say most important part of a incident is apparatus placement.
@@stephenmather8513 I agree but the IC in E1 knows where the closest hydrant is located it's down Cumberland. Had he gone past the house the crew would of had to cut across the property to get to the hydrant. The other hydrant is further down Dresden. I know that the other apparatus would of approached from the other direction because I know the area I live there and I was a member of that fire department for over 25 years.
The first arriving engine would have been more effective being parked at the end of the driveway utilizing the deck gun.
The operator can operate the deck gun from booster tank water for 30-40 seconds while the remaining crew makes the hydrant hook up.
The fire would be knocked down enough for the hand lines to finish it off or to stop any extension into the house that may be occurring.
Garages can have anything and everything stored in them so overwhelming that fire as quickly as possible eliminates many of the “unknown” dangers the firefighters can’t see or may not be prepared for.
This positioning would have also allowed the ladder to position closer to the building if its use became necessary.
Good call, they needed more water for the Btu's initially, would have made placement of attack lines easier and more effective as well.
At least the engine could have pulled up further I agrew
I love you pretend firefighters acting like you have a clue what you are babbling about
@@virgilhilts3924 and what is it exactly that you’re pretending to offer?
@@ritirons2726
I did not "offer" anything.
I made a clear and concise statement
😉.
Fico impressionado com a tranquilidade dos Bombeiros!!!!
More deck gun warriors 🥸🥸
They are always good for a laugh 🤣
God Bless the VFD's! The parking decisions by the Ambo and PD were not thought out very well, blocking the additional Apparatus coming in.
The engine company put water on the fire in like a 1:32 mins nice job. But the engine blocked the road for the truck company. Saved the house and no injuries. 👍
There's a whole other side the truck can come in from.
The front of the house would have been the best for the truck company. The wind is blowing to the back of the house 🤪
@@Fred-gr2xp That's assuming that everyone follows the American thought process that the truck is always in the front. Again, there's a whole other part of the street the ladder can come in from.
Great knockdown! Plus they had to deal with pickup truck burning also.
Great knock down guys
Was everybody safe, was everybody ok, did everybody make out of the house before the 🔥 started to grow bigger or 🚫 & what caused the 🔥?????🤔🤔🤔🤔🤨🤨🤨
This is a pull up front of the fire and dump your tank with the deck gun in the door closest to the house if there ever was one. Instead the captain has the engineer stop short and clog the approach for the other units arriving. You should never stop short. If anything you go passed. Let the next unit grab water or hand jack a supply line.
If only there was another side of the street crews could come in from.....
Do you know how actual experienced firefighters spot the phonies...?
We look for the ones saying... "They should have used a deck gun" 🤣😂😅
Kwick knock-down!
Wind fueled fire
It in Canada or USA?
Canada
Good to see the cop cars up to the fire and the fire trucks behind them. That makes sense. When they put a hose on a cop car, then it can be in front. Geez.
2nd engine in could have dumped their monitor. Would have knocked down the exposure a bit quicker
You have no clue what you are babbling about
QUICK knockdown!
the video is edited. They didn't go from heavily involved to under control in a 3 minute video.
I think Canada
Leave the address for the truck, poor placement of pickup , truck couldn’t access the front of the structure. That’s the only thing that could be improved on. Damn fine knock down, aggressive attack, teamwork, strong work. Good job.
in our dept the engine responds first if it is working fire they are to drive just past the structure leave room for our tower
@@towert391 that’s correct, leave the address for the truck co.
The truck, if they wanted it, could have came from the other direction. Believe it or not but not everyone in the world follows the American theory that the truck always gets the address.
@@greyman686 true but in the city 9 times out of 10 the sides aren’t there for a city block, so if the truck doesn’t get the address it might as well stay in the station.
First engine should have pulled up and deck gunned it. Knock down the main body of fire and go in with some handlines and mop it up. Too bad the truck was jammed up behind the engine. Time to put the accountability board down and help stretch some line.
They a nice knock with handlines. Without a water supply secured I wouldn't of used a deck gun.
Oh look... yet another deck-gun warrior... (yawn)
🤣😂😅
Was there an earthquake too? Stop moving the camera s much.
You can hear dogs barking. I hope Il everybody's okay even their animals.
terrible response...first engine blocks the roadway and doesn't allow other trucks to enter the scene.
If only there were another end of the street additional units could come in. Oh wait, there is.
@@greyman686
Please stop using facts & logic... You might scare him away then I wont have a clown to laugh at 😁
Nice parking job
If a municipality can afford a LE agency, it can afford a professional career All-Hazards fire department. The difference in insurance premiums from a class 5 to 3 or 2 or 1 are significant. Enough so to fund your department. I won't go I into the obvious tactics or lack of.
The OPP is a provincial police force so not every part of their operations is funded by this community vs a fully municipal force. Let's not kid ourselves though, there's a much higher demand for police vs the FD in pretty much any community. I'm willing to bet the OPP servicing this area deals with more than 400 calls a year. The real question is would the community want to pay for it a fully career department? Two stations, with a minimum of 16 per station, assuming they only staff one truck at each hall, which we know wouldn't happen, with each making 80k a year (it'd be more than that in no time given Ontario FF salaries) is already over 2.5 million and you haven't even gotten into any other part of the costs with an FD. If they're still running volunteers there obviously isn't a huge push.
can a veichle explode in a case like this? scary
The vehicle itself most likely won’t explode, but the tires and some of the suspension parts can “explode”. It’s safe to stay away from the vehicle while on fire if they don’t knock that fire down first so you don’t get hit by anything
Typical vehicles are incapable of exploding... it's Hollywood hype
Water vs. Fire Water always wins !!!
Water doesn’t always win lol
My respect to VFD crews, but you have to be more intelligent than parking your truck in the middle of the road 100 feet from the fire and blocking all other responding units. 1st arriving unit should always attack on arrival, and let the 2nd, 3rd, 4th responding unit be responsible for attaching to the hydrant and supplying water to the attacking unit. These guys did a great job, but the driver/operators need more training on where they should be.
The scene wasn't completely blocked. There's a whole other end of the street the crews could respond in from.
The sad part is that you actually believe what you just typed
More hustle needed
Just crap
Horrible position.
You lay in and Deck Gun this within one minute of arrival, not when you get around to pulling your hoses.
Please explain why you would of used a deck gun? They made a great stop.
@@stephenmather8513 Every second you allow combustion to continue, you are threatening the victims, entering firefighters and property. That's their job. Few USA firefighters understand that.
I want to see any department that can lay in connect a hydrant in a minute. They made a aggressive attack with handlines. They would of had it knocked down before the hydrant would of been connected. Problem is to many people are afraid to make aggressive attack's.
@@stephenmather8513 You lay in for Future water if needed. You hit this with your tank water. If you can see it when you arrive, there is nothing faster than the Deck Gun or booster lines. Most residential fires can be extinguished with tank water only, that is if you are a thinker who surgically applies the water instead of a squirting it like a fountain statue.
@@JB91710 I'm not sure where your from a booster line is not a attack line. Nore is a deck gun. Most that try the deck gun attack waste more water over shooting the fire. And not to mention putting a engine where the aerial should be setting up. Attack engine always stops short or goes past the fire building leaving space for the aerial.
Tell me you don’t give a crap about your job without telling me. If your hydrant is on the side street and you’re going to deploy your lines from the side street, maybe park your pumper on the side street. But anyway, who needs the truck.
If they really wanted the truck, it's more of an American thing to have the truck right out front all the time, then it could have came in from the other direction.