Pre Arrival: Heavy Fire Showing, Whitehall, Pa - 6.14.21

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  • Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
  • Whitehall firefighters were alerted to the 900 Blk of Pennsylvania St for a reported house fire, crews arrive to heavy smoke and fire coming from the residence and put lines in service to knock down the fire which is under investigation.....

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  • @ClamChowder_FireBuff69
    @ClamChowder_FireBuff69 3 роки тому +53

    When the chief on the only line deployed does more than everyone on scene

    • @cluckhead1913
      @cluckhead1913 2 роки тому +1

      The chief makes more money than anyone else, so yeah, he should do more work than anyone else.

    • @Logan-eo1zq
      @Logan-eo1zq Рік тому +7

      The chief shouldent be doing ANY work

  • @TheDiabeticDietShow
    @TheDiabeticDietShow 3 роки тому +18

    Good job filming mike. Your closeups of the firefighters were great. Most people need a tripod they are shaking so much. And they film mostly the flames whitch is like watching paint dry. You had great up-close transitions. I ducted when the guy pulled the ladder off the truck I felt I was that close. The fire fighters are the story content and the fire is just the reason why. Keep up the good work. Retired Firefighter, James

    • @ghostbirdlary
      @ghostbirdlary Рік тому

      seems like he has experience and knows what hes doing

  • @chosenone1004
    @chosenone1004 3 роки тому +22

    Just a FYI , if you cut into that garage door about a blades length a foot away or even closer to that handle the door will go right up . All you have to do is cut that cross bar that locks both sides of the door . Normally one cut will release the lock and it will roll up

    • @TempoDrift1480
      @TempoDrift1480 2 роки тому +9

      Well these are a bunch of Dylan's and Caden's so they wouldn't fuckin know that. I bet they can unlock any door in minecraft though.

    • @iuliandragomir1
      @iuliandragomir1 Рік тому +2

      I agree, but where was the show? They don't have to parade with all the equipment as if it's the 4th of July and not a fire

    • @portagepete1
      @portagepete1 Рік тому

      @@iuliandragomir1 LOL your right, I could put out that fire by myself faster than all these guys together.

  • @greyjay9202
    @greyjay9202 3 роки тому +95

    "We need a hydrant ..." Well, yes you do, and you should know in advance where they are.

    • @jasminelindros8923
      @jasminelindros8923 3 роки тому +10

      It is LITERALLY impossible to reach this house via public streets without passing a hydrant. The farthest one is under 600' away from the front door, but the incident commander(s) don't know this. How is this possible?

    • @mikeswarthout7911
      @mikeswarthout7911 3 роки тому +1

      Yes you do need a firehidren

    • @chosenone1004
      @chosenone1004 3 роки тому +3

      @@jasminelindros8923
      Yea I’m not exactly sure why that engine didn’t just lay right in . Or reverse lay out . Maybe if the chiefs were running the fire and not putting it out they could have give Those orders ?

    • @tinsmith4540
      @tinsmith4540 3 роки тому +2

      Are they not allowed to use their hoses until the arial units have arrived?

    • @ericcastle7296
      @ericcastle7296 3 роки тому

      Put the hose pipe through the grooves l o l

  • @DianaKoenig-sz8sd
    @DianaKoenig-sz8sd 4 місяці тому +4

    Why are FF in the smoke not wearing their masks? Wearing a pack on your back doesn't do any good if the mask is not in place.

  • @stihlpoon5821
    @stihlpoon5821 3 роки тому +7

    Just one line in operations??. Correct me if I'm wrong..

  • @hihfty
    @hihfty 3 роки тому +130

    I guess everyone gets to be a chief in this place.

    • @RLTtizME
      @RLTtizME 3 роки тому +2

      Even you from your Lazy Boy. Time to suck out those old farts. They are piling up .

    • @gusbailey68
      @gusbailey68 3 роки тому +1

      hats?

    • @mikhailt.v8729
      @mikhailt.v8729 3 роки тому

      XGbk syhzC gSx gaurur 4u

    • @RLTtizME
      @RLTtizME 3 роки тому

      @@mikhailt.v8729 Yes but your gut still looks like it is at war with your pants.

    • @masterbond9
      @masterbond9 3 роки тому +1

      The guy who's in charge is just a glorified babysitter. The fact that the chief DOESN'T have to stand around telling people what needs to be done is pretty good to me

  • @nelsonperez9153
    @nelsonperez9153 3 роки тому +10

    This fire dept is slow in putting a fire out?

  • @donnadreyer2580
    @donnadreyer2580 3 роки тому +5

    A Brick House can be leveled in a matter of seconds, when I was in High School a predominantly wealthy Family lived in a brick Ranch, I saw the house the next morning going to School, it was gone, burned to the ground. This was 31 Years Ago.
    Edit : I live in Pennsylvania and Our Firefighters are Professionals ! Nice Work Guys. I'm not too far from Pittsburgh.

    • @tamarahaislip1730
      @tamarahaislip1730 Рік тому +1

      That's because it just the facade of the house. It's like siding only on the outside

  • @kklein1240
    @kklein1240 3 роки тому +25

    Nice to see the air packs are just for decoration. Lots to pick apart on this one. This is why we train.

    • @asbestosfiber
      @asbestosfiber 2 роки тому +1

      And no need for any eyepro when smashing second floor windows. Only babies worry about that.

    • @Gruntm203
      @Gruntm203 Рік тому

      @@asbestosfiber safety Nazis; please STFU

  • @Madmac96
    @Madmac96 3 роки тому +33

    I'm just here to read all the comments from the UA-cam firefighters, telling us what the actual firefighters are doing wrong. Never ceases to amuse me.

    • @PhillipRhodes
      @PhillipRhodes 3 роки тому +7

      Here's what gets me (not necessarily about this specific video, but rather in general) - most of the time, we get one angle, which shows maybe 120 degrees of visibility at best, with NO real visibility into what's going on through the vast majority of the fire ground, coupled with miscellaneous jump cuts which make it impossible to know how the video time corresponds to actual chronological time on scene, we usually know nothing about the specific department's policies, staffing, response times for mutual aid units, etc., etc., etc.
      So despite knowing a little bit about maybe 4 or 5 variables out of about 200 that affect the outcomes, the armchair quarterbacks instantly assume they know everything about what's going on, and proceed to pass judgment about what they see.
      It's quite ridiculous, frankly.

    • @louisc.gasper7588
      @louisc.gasper7588 3 роки тому +4

      @@PhillipRhodes Oh, come on, now. Don't you know that a single UA-cam video captures everything? And don't you know that anyone can analyze a fire from that video and reconstruct all variables? The fact, discovered after the fire, that it was probably arson couldn't have anything to do with the progress of the fire, could it? The comment that says they should have gone inside to be more effective in knocking down the fire is surely right -- even though the second floor of this house collapsed and would have killed anyone inside.
      All sarcasm aside, the commenters who have actually worked in boots and a helmet may have some excuse for critiquing the firefighters, but even they seem to me too often to lack measure and caution in their comments.

    • @eddiespagetti8395
      @eddiespagetti8395 3 роки тому

      Ha ha it's hilarious. UA-cam experts also have the real estate crisis figured out and all worlds problems. It's so entertaining these UA-cam experts are amazing wealth.of stupidity and cluelessness that will never be found anywhere else on earth. What a privilege we have to see these experts share their meaningless opinions

    • @TempoDrift1480
      @TempoDrift1480 2 роки тому +2

      You can't tell me this ain't a fuckin shit show .

  • @KPaul77
    @KPaul77 3 роки тому +147

    Thats a pretty nice house to use for training like that.

    • @Eginhardt
      @Eginhardt 3 роки тому +4

      The brick colour is awful in my opinion

    • @dustinwhite4215
      @dustinwhite4215 3 роки тому +2

      I thought the same thing due to windows already being vented. But then I thought maybe its abandoned

    • @toddprater14
      @toddprater14 3 роки тому +1

      @@Eginhardt looks like they may be old reclaimed bricks

    • @TheWaynelds
      @TheWaynelds 3 роки тому +1

      @@dustinwhite4215 If it was abandoned then it’s likely that all of the utilities were cut off since nobody would be there and there wouldn’t be anyway for a fire to start.

    • @gusbailey68
      @gusbailey68 3 роки тому +6

      @@TheWaynelds mice with matches; they'll get you every time.

  • @canessoftball1
    @canessoftball1 3 роки тому +12

    Do those departments issue fire gloves? If two people are struggling to control an 1 3/4" line, you probably are pumping it with too much pressure....

  • @Shadowfax-1980
    @Shadowfax-1980 2 роки тому +7

    The UA-cam Fire & Rescue Department is out in force in the comments section to open up a master stream of contradictory expert advice that only a “life time firefighter” watching an edited video from a single camera perspective can give. You can rest easy knowing that whatever was done here, they would have done it differently and better! To provide extra manpower, we’ve also called in mutual aid from commentators from to provide their totally practical idea that every single wood frame house in North America should be torn down and replaced with masonry construction.

  • @willie14donna
    @willie14donna 2 роки тому +1

    Just watched 20 vids in a row from Pa firefighters ! First one firemen use water before Insurance Co comes up, and did the job! Congratulations real firefighters!

  • @boatbound3300
    @boatbound3300 3 роки тому +14

    I wonder how long this was burning before being called in

    • @johnbednarcik9359
      @johnbednarcik9359 3 роки тому +1

      Whitehall is a volunteer (mostly) department

    • @marshanotmarcia7433
      @marshanotmarcia7433 3 роки тому +5

      @@johnbednarcik9359 Matters less than a virgin in hell. You are either trained or you are not...... I come from a vol FF family and have always lived in towns with volunteers, who trained and worked their a$$es off for their community. Any weak link was dealt with accordingly.

    • @johnbednarcik9359
      @johnbednarcik9359 3 роки тому +4

      @@marshanotmarcia7433 what? someone was wondering how long it was burning. Whitehall township if i am not mistaken is mostly volunteer. Hence it would take a few extra minutes for the FF to either get to the station or to the fire itself. In their personal vehicles they can use the blue light but still have to follow speed limits.

    • @marianneturner7267
      @marianneturner7267 3 роки тому

      I was wondering the same thing @Boat Bound, that fire had a hell of a start before being called in.

    • @ffjsb
      @ffjsb 3 роки тому +4

      @@johnbednarcik9359 Whitehall is big enough that they should have a FULL TIME FD.

  • @Bigbluehawk2
    @Bigbluehawk2 3 роки тому +81

    Thank you for the video. Hopefully it can be used in their post review of this fire to improve their tactics. They will need it.

    • @justanotherguy1110
      @justanotherguy1110 3 роки тому +18

      After watching a lot of videos from these guys over time past year or so, they don't seem to be doing any good, if anything they just get worse

    • @ffjsb
      @ffjsb 3 роки тому +7

      Hopefully they can use it to justify starting a fire department.

    • @notthatdonald1385
      @notthatdonald1385 3 роки тому +2

      @@justanotherguy1110 Agreed. They're pathetic. While doing a dangerous job too.

    • @renbag
      @renbag 3 роки тому

      Anyone know if this is an all volunteer, combination, or career department?

    • @jwadams1202
      @jwadams1202 3 роки тому

      @@renbag Its all volunteer. 4 stations in Whitehall Township. The Chief is a paid career position who oversees all 4 stations.

  • @EricG7713
    @EricG7713 3 роки тому +52

    With that many chiefs I’m willing to bet still none of them completed a 360 🤦🏻‍♂️

    • @kingrorytm2211
      @kingrorytm2211 3 роки тому +2

      Let’s play a game how many dam Cheif’s do you see

    • @glennhuber4975
      @glennhuber4975 3 роки тому

      Bet one did, and your eyes just seen what they wanted,

    • @glennhuber4975
      @glennhuber4975 3 роки тому +5

      @@kingrorytm2211 let’s play a game, how many asshole comments can be made by dumb asses who know nothing…

    • @EricG7713
      @EricG7713 3 роки тому +3

      @@glennhuber4975 nah my eyes saw what the video showed me. 👍🏼

    • @thomasprociuk9079
      @thomasprociuk9079 3 роки тому +2

      lost the back side of the development no worries

  • @Dragonballguy270
    @Dragonballguy270 3 роки тому +7

    Do they have a lot of chiefs riding or do the white helmets mean something else

    • @harrisonschmidt7596
      @harrisonschmidt7596 3 роки тому +2

      Looking at their helmet shields they do appear to all be chiefs. A crap ton of them!

    • @PMAN-jj1hn
      @PMAN-jj1hn 3 роки тому +1

      Time to demote a few of those dum dums; too many BC’s man, looked a little timid to me!

  • @brett76544
    @brett76544 3 роки тому +8

    we had garage by the NYS line on SR 11 where the last fire hydrant on the PA failed to work along with the line on the NY side of the boarder. The Conklin pumper truck had to drive into a field and pump water from the river due to water lines failing and hydrants not being maintained by the water companies.

    • @jeffheyman8537
      @jeffheyman8537 3 роки тому

      I passed that Monday weird to see it burnt to the ground.

    • @brett76544
      @brett76544 3 роки тому

      @@jeffheyman8537 we were talking about that at the borough council meeting and it raised some questions about hydrants in the borough since they do not want the fire company to check them. Then there is what happened at the Summit Inn with the pipe under the creek that failed. The funny part was, NMMA could not find the leak, then even put on Facebook for people to look for a leak. Then they called in PA American Water to help them and found in a few hours. We even had inquires by PA American water about NMMA at the sewer plant.

    • @portagepete1
      @portagepete1 Рік тому

      While there is not a fire can't somebody from the fire department go out and check hydrants.

  • @pjkolb7962
    @pjkolb7962 3 роки тому +25

    Have these guys ever thrown a ground ladder before? Are they issued fire gloves?? Too many questions

    • @glennhuber4975
      @glennhuber4975 3 роки тому +4

      Then stop asking stupid questions. I love all you at home firefighters who think they know so much.

    • @jasminelindros8923
      @jasminelindros8923 3 роки тому +4

      @@glennhuber4975 You are welcome to provide some answers, Glenn, just as you are welcome to continue whining. Your choice.

    • @glennhuber4975
      @glennhuber4975 3 роки тому +2

      @@jasminelindros8923 another country heard from, I’m a volunteer ff, and I’m not here to give lessons , but if both of you would like to come to my station, I’m sure we can fit you both with gear, get ya a nice house fire, and see how you do. It’s not called whining, it’s called sticking up for my brothers against people who have no idea.

    • @jasminelindros8923
      @jasminelindros8923 3 роки тому +5

      @@glennhuber4975 Do you stick up for your brothers who are poorly trained, Glenn, and doing an amateurish or unsafe job? How long have you known PJ, so you can state that s/he has no idea? Or are you just whining? Learning and training will help you do your job better than whining, Glenn. I've never seen a "nice house fire," I've only seen property damage that I would never, ever, call "nice." What part of a burning house is "nice," Glenn?

    • @firevike2420
      @firevike2420 3 роки тому +4

      @@glennhuber4975 yep, Im a Volunteer and NOPE, ain’t sticking up for these clowns! This is the stuff that gives us a bad name and politicians ammunition to disbanding volunteer companies… Hopefully some good can come out of this display, before someone gets hurt or killed!

  • @henrikmodin4235
    @henrikmodin4235 3 місяці тому +1

    At 1:43. What are the chains hanging down under the firetruck for?

    • @FireRescue80
      @FireRescue80 2 місяці тому +2

      They are used in snowy and icy conditions to gain traction.

    • @alfredosoup9434
      @alfredosoup9434 Місяць тому +2

      They're called automatic tire chains

    • @JaimeStrad
      @JaimeStrad 27 днів тому

      Display purpose

  • @tamarahaislip1730
    @tamarahaislip1730 Рік тому +2

    I definitely have a healthy respect for fire. There times I don't sleep at night from fear of not being able to react.

  • @dldave1978
    @dldave1978 3 роки тому +2

    Not a critique of the firefighters .....because I’ve never done the job. But when it’s this far gone before anyone is on scene, why not just let it burn to the ground? Less use of resources, firefighters don’t risk life and limb making entry, and less crap to throw in a dumpster a few days later? Just curious. Seems a lot of these house fire videos on the Tube are total losses before anyone gets there.

  • @LakesRegionEmergencyPhoto
    @LakesRegionEmergencyPhoto 3 роки тому +1

    I genuinely do not understand why the commenters are hating on these FFs. the ONLY thing that was actually THAT bad was the response time. They were a little unorganized but beyond that they did alright. My guess is they are underfunded and don't have the money to train or have a firehouse closer.

    • @bretpashnick4755
      @bretpashnick4755 3 роки тому +1

      No it was bad. Everything about this was just hard to watch. I get it they tried but there is a clear need for someone who understands how to properly fight structure fires teach these guys how to do things. Property can be replaced but if there were a child trapped in that house do you think there would have been a coordinated effort that would have allowed an effective search to take place?

    • @joandickson9566
      @joandickson9566 3 роки тому

      It seemed to take them a long time to get water on the fire..I only see one hose going 🤷‍♀️

    • @joandickson9566
      @joandickson9566 3 роки тому

      Why so long before they put the bucket up?

    • @freebird7284
      @freebird7284 3 роки тому

      volunteer's

  • @rickprusak9326
    @rickprusak9326 2 роки тому +7

    With all those firefighters standing around with their hands in their pockets, and their mouths open in wonderment, how come no firefighter helped the lone firefighter with the aluminum ladder to help him set it up against the outer wall?
    The poor guy looked like he was fighting a monster in extending the ladder around sightseers wearing firefighting gear.
    The lone ladder handling firefighter looked like Moe working alone with the other Stooges making sandwiches during the blaze.

    • @geraldoestaurdo9930
      @geraldoestaurdo9930 2 роки тому

      That’s a one man ladder but that firefighter obviously lacked training/experience. I do agree with you though when someone struggles usually others will help out. Poor job by this bunch.

  • @baconbooger4256
    @baconbooger4256 3 роки тому +11

    When you get defeated by the 14foot ladder 😂

  • @mjgpmg
    @mjgpmg 3 роки тому +56

    C.H.A.O.S
    Chiefs Have Arrived On Scene
    😂😂😂😂

    • @erickaegi629
      @erickaegi629 3 роки тому

      So true! Just like my bosses at work!

    • @bigtuna4037
      @bigtuna4037 3 роки тому

      Chief Has An Operational Solution

    • @jacksheet2395
      @jacksheet2395 2 роки тому

      Kansas City Chiefs? In Steele's territory

  • @TARTANATORscotland
    @TARTANATORscotland Рік тому +1

    Hope everyone has got out u firefighters are the real heroes out there risking your lives to save others running into fires when people are running out played fire fighting simulator was bad enough

  • @2olvets443
    @2olvets443 3 роки тому +11

    Saw roof of chief first on scene, should have been on radio instructing second in to pick up hydrant! Tower on scene, second in engine and a fire fighter says we need a hydrant. Wow!

  • @portagepete1
    @portagepete1 Рік тому +1

    Where are all the people? are all these houses empty. Does anybody next door have a hose or fire extinguisher?

    • @dbyers3897
      @dbyers3897 4 місяці тому +1

      Get real. Civilians attacking a house fire with a water pistol is another rescue to be performed when the fire crews arrive. Get out. Get the F#@K OUT!

  • @owensweetland342
    @owensweetland342 3 роки тому +4

    Why cut the garage door. Front door was open.

    • @ffjsb
      @ffjsb 3 роки тому +1

      Bet there was a man door around back too.

    • @gibco25-offical56
      @gibco25-offical56 2 роки тому +1

      Their were holes in the floor.

  • @aaronkershner2685
    @aaronkershner2685 3 роки тому +7

    Ok as a former captain and safety officer. 1. When the ladder truck arrived why didn’t they attack the fire with the lines off that truck and have the second due engine catch the hydrant and lay into them? Second on 2:47 the fire fighter on the hose working the door wearing an SCBA but he isn’t hooked up. Sorry but there is still heat and smoke coming out! At 2:38 you can see his regulator hanging in front of him.

    • @Fvtfvt
      @Fvtfvt 3 роки тому +3

      sorry he wasnt yard breath. #endsafteyculture we have a job to do!

    • @NVPMedia
      @NVPMedia  3 роки тому +4

      The truck has no water on it and no hose that’s why they didn’t stretch from it

    • @sturnie1
      @sturnie1 3 роки тому +6

      @@NVPMedia if thats the case then that truck shouldn't roll let alone be first due. Its called negligence and border line criminal. If it isnt full of gear, water and a minimum amount of bodies its OOS

    • @Jimmythefish577
      @Jimmythefish577 3 роки тому +4

      @@NVPMedia what’s the point in having a fire truck with no attack lines or water? That’s the dumbest idea yet, might as well just have a bucket truck like the power company uses.

    • @NVPMedia
      @NVPMedia  3 роки тому +1

      @@Jimmythefish577 There are vehicles mainly ladder trucks out there that do not carry water the purpose of the vehicle is for elevated use that is why the engine companies come along with it. There are many departments that have ladder or tower trucks that do not carry water, The engine company was right behind this vehicle and they handled fire attack. And yes new ladder trucks will also have water and hose on them because of manpower issues.

  • @Jhihmoac
    @Jhihmoac 3 роки тому +7

    ...Nasty state of affairs when you hear a fire crackling like that! It means it's of considerable size and/or magnitude, and there's plenty there to continue to fuel it! Most times, there usually won't be much to salvage afterwards...

  • @Stoneham64
    @Stoneham64 3 роки тому +5

    Great example of a bad example! Maybe this department uses their RIT engine to lay a line.

  • @dawnoakley1776
    @dawnoakley1776 3 роки тому +3

    Why is it when any video like this is shown whether its from the USA , UK or any other part of the world, people have to be so critical and vile to each other!!!
    Every fire department has its own skills and ways of dealing with these fires , im sure these firefighters wherever they are in the world do their best while risking their own lives after going through continuous ongoing training, just for other people and fire departments from around the world to slate them and put them down. Those who do just that need to get a grip and remember that sometime in these firefighters careers, theyve saved someones life! , someones property!, and someones child!!!
    So stop being self rightous and just appreciate that they are there doing a job that not many people can do, cus one day you may need them!!
    Its just sickening to read these negative comments!!!

    • @jesslambert4819
      @jesslambert4819 3 роки тому

      If this was your house would you be satisfied with how they handled it. I bet you wouldn't. This was absolute chaos with no leadership or organization. Everyone just walking around. One or 2 hoses running. No clue where the hydrants were. This was awful and they clearly don't train nearly enough. People aren't being mean they are being honest. Honesty isn't always nice.

    • @dawnoakley1776
      @dawnoakley1776 3 роки тому +2

      @@jesslambert4819 yet another judgemental person!!! Were you there? Are you so experienced in firefighting!
      Mmmmm🤔 just stop it!!!!

    • @jesslambert4819
      @jesslambert4819 3 роки тому

      @@dawnoakley1776 you don't know me or what I do for living. You are one of those who dislike facts. You want everything sugar coated. Facts are facts. Deal with it.

    • @dawnoakley1776
      @dawnoakley1776 3 роки тому +2

      @@jesslambert4819 and you dont know me darling! But you do know that im not judgemental, unlike you!
      The world would be a better place if people like you didnt have to criticise others and the job they do!
      Now jog on and have a lovely day❤️

    • @jesslambert4819
      @jesslambert4819 3 роки тому

      @@dawnoakley1776 you ma'am are a dimwit. Appearantly you don't know the difference between being critical and judgemental. I don't have to know you nor do I want to know you. I prefer people who are actually intelligent, have open mind and not so damn sensitive. The over sensitivity these days is nauseating. Do the world a favor and go back to your safe place. Good grief!!!

  • @poppiarlin5612
    @poppiarlin5612 3 роки тому +8

    Why is it necessary to start setting up the aerial device first?
    If the aerial is a quint it has a pump, hose, and water use it instead of setting up the aerial.

    • @tjlovesrachel
      @tjlovesrachel 3 роки тому

      Def not a quint

    • @raymondbushey4805
      @raymondbushey4805 3 роки тому +3

      Not to mention the stabilizers go down the aerial doesn't leave the bed till the fire is out

    • @r.a.hassel8006
      @r.a.hassel8006 3 роки тому +2

      This ladder was not a quint. Whitehall tower 6 does not have a pump and water. Oh by the way it is standard practice for all ladder companies to set the outriggers at fires pretty much in all the fire depts. across the country.

    • @heavy7799
      @heavy7799 3 роки тому

      Why do long to put boom up..?

    • @r.a.hassel8006
      @r.a.hassel8006 3 роки тому +1

      @@heavy7799 Because they never intended to use it.

  • @RollsRoyceGuy
    @RollsRoyceGuy 3 роки тому +7

    Another nice video of a foundation saved

  • @HB-yq8gy
    @HB-yq8gy 2 роки тому

    I’m not criticizing but, the truck was set up but not used initially?

  • @shamrock1961
    @shamrock1961 3 роки тому +5

    Very disappointing video of a poor response and firefighters standing around wondering if the should start hosing down that fire.

    • @johnjablonski9292
      @johnjablonski9292 3 роки тому +1

      i seen worse lots of FDNY videos

    • @michaeldimeo9429
      @michaeldimeo9429 3 роки тому +1

      How do you know it was a poor response? You know nothing unless you have the dispatch times/response times/arrival

  • @jebcommon2332
    @jebcommon2332 Рік тому

    Great camera work, awsome hustle to attack the fire.

  • @jasonbennett6780
    @jasonbennett6780 2 роки тому +2

    Thanks guys for all you do!

  • @malcolmkmorris
    @malcolmkmorris 3 роки тому +11

    Rule 1 of the fire service…
    DON’T END UP ON UA-cam

  • @peterblack1639
    @peterblack1639 3 роки тому +7

    Looks like an entire write off......very sad for the Family.

  • @captharriott
    @captharriott 3 роки тому +6

    Way to not use the tower ladder! Really?

  • @sahmuleadams5270
    @sahmuleadams5270 Рік тому

    Not much could be done here. Surround and drowned. Post flashover disaster. Master streams!!!

  • @jonanderson4755
    @jonanderson4755 3 роки тому +14

    This was painful to watch...

    • @glennhuber4975
      @glennhuber4975 3 роки тому +2

      Your comment was painful to read. Try telling that to a firefighter to his face….

  • @colnorth
    @colnorth 3 роки тому +1

    all those firemen and only 1 hose?

  • @nathankaufmann2925
    @nathankaufmann2925 3 роки тому +3

    Y have scba’s if not going to use them. If this was In my county we would be interior as soon as we get there. This video is just embarrassing.

  • @dmac75287
    @dmac75287 3 роки тому +4

    Was it truly necessary to cut through both garage doors? They had access through the front door!

    • @ps4progress436
      @ps4progress436 3 роки тому +3

      Every time I watch a video like this, they are cutting something!! Or "venting "

    • @tjlovesrachel
      @tjlovesrachel 3 роки тому +1

      Insurance

    • @jimbos76cj
      @jimbos76cj 3 роки тому +4

      Absolutely not.. they should have kept them intact so the family had some place to store any thing that the FD didn’t let burn up..

  • @michaelmoran2059
    @michaelmoran2059 3 роки тому +4

    What in hell was that kid doing with the ladder?? Jesus Christ! Do they even get training? They didn't even use the flippin thing in the end! 🤨 I have yet to watch American Firefighters that even for one second knows what they are at!! Incredible!

    • @blown503
      @blown503 3 роки тому

      they was waiting for a pro like you to show up.

  • @freebird7284
    @freebird7284 3 роки тому +1

    that house was toast when they got there

  • @inherentnature5938
    @inherentnature5938 3 роки тому +6

    Chiefs…so many chiefs…

  • @bobestell2767
    @bobestell2767 3 роки тому +9

    Being it is 2021, it is hard to believe they still put out fires like it is still the 1800's.

    • @r.a.hassel8006
      @r.a.hassel8006 3 роки тому +1

      And how do you know how fires were fought in the 1800's, were you there?

    • @johnjablonski9292
      @johnjablonski9292 3 роки тому +1

      real expert on fire fighting Patriot??? didn't think so

  • @fredreader1114
    @fredreader1114 3 роки тому +1

    It’s okay to get dirty and do the job and take care of yourself. We serve the public, show up and do your job.

    • @Jimmythefish577
      @Jimmythefish577 3 роки тому +1

      I’m fairly certain that’s exactly what they did.

  • @Bobbyd0052
    @Bobbyd0052 3 роки тому

    GREAT CATCH ! THANK YOU VERY MUCH !

  • @rbspider
    @rbspider 2 роки тому +2

    House is totaled before they even arrive.. I would love to see a home that has a sprinkler system installed to compare the damage. If fire doesn't destroy the furnishings , the thousands of gallons of water does.

    • @george196161
      @george196161 2 роки тому +1

      Very true but a sprinkler MAY stop a fire from spreading to your neighbors house.

    • @rbspider
      @rbspider 2 роки тому +1

      @@george196161 Yes and if it stops the fire to one room that would be a blessing . Every home should have them plus everyone should have at least two fire extinguishers.

    • @danielebrparish4271
      @danielebrparish4271 Рік тому

      @@rbspider No one wants to pay for those things.

    • @danielebrparish4271
      @danielebrparish4271 Рік тому

      ua-cam.com/video/JGIICiX2CNI/v-deo.html

    • @rbspider
      @rbspider Рік тому

      @@danielebrparish4271 Let me see , $49.97 at home depot 8.25 lb or you have a fire at 2am on a winter night and wait for the FD. Lose all of your clothes , furniture , computers , dvd's , music , bed , job and are forced to move into a flea bag hotel at $150 a night and you are out for 10 months to 2.5 years depending on damage and if they rebuild. Plus you still have to pay the mortgage if you own , plus the condo fee if it were in a condominium and the taxes . If it was a low rent apartment good luck finding another in the same area at the same price. I'm thinking fire extinguisher.

  • @chrism9678
    @chrism9678 3 роки тому +17

    Gotta move with purpose on the fire ground boys, you drove with lights and sirens for a reason. Secondly, make the push, at least a little, yard breathing doesn't knock down fire.

    • @glennhuber4975
      @glennhuber4975 3 роки тому +6

      Moving fast causes nothing but accidents and problems. You would know that I’d you were a firefighter or even knew one

    • @patrickmac9403
      @patrickmac9403 3 роки тому +4

      Make a push ? There is fire out of every window there is nothing to save. Why risk a lot for a little? No need to send anyone into a structure like this.

    • @freebird7284
      @freebird7284 3 роки тому

      @@patrickmac9403 then why fight it?

  • @nickmad887
    @nickmad887 3 місяці тому

    Thanks

  • @walterfink9782
    @walterfink9782 3 роки тому +14

    A total loss. Even before the fire department showed up.

    • @richardbradley6038
      @richardbradley6038 3 роки тому +1

      You're right. No saving it at this point.

    • @stevenbowers4164
      @stevenbowers4164 3 роки тому +4

      True but you are supposed to show at least a little urgency about putting water on the fire, it makes the taxpayers feel like they are actually paying for a decent service

    • @walterfink9782
      @walterfink9782 3 роки тому +1

      @@stevenbowers4164 I totally agree. When have you seen a fire, like this one, where the fire fighters, arrive, hook up the hoses to the hydrant than the truck, then spray water on the fire?That quick? Hardly never.
      Other factors need to be taken in, before water or foam or both are used. That's the captain's responsibility.

    • @CatholicBoy1957
      @CatholicBoy1957 3 роки тому

      @@stevenbowers4164 Is Whitehall a paid department or volunteer?
      I better not say Northampton pays their firefighters too much.
      .

    • @bettermost
      @bettermost 3 роки тому

      Exactly. It’s a tear down no matter how you look at it.

  • @ffjsb
    @ffjsb 3 роки тому +26

    It speaks volumes that it's not unusual for photographers and the "fire police" to beat the actual "fire dept." to fires in Pa.
    I don't know how anyone can afford fire insurance there. It's clear that the fire was running out of fuel before they put water on the fire.

    • @Eginhardt
      @Eginhardt 3 роки тому +2

      Fire police are apart of actual Fire and police departments

    • @bruinsfn17
      @bruinsfn17 3 роки тому +3

      It’s tough when most places are Volunteer

    • @thomasprociuk9079
      @thomasprociuk9079 3 роки тому

      lucky for the insurance company

    • @renbag
      @renbag 3 роки тому +3

      Maybe if the fucking fire police took a little time and went to fire school they would be an asset on the fire ground. Blocking/diverting traffic at a fire scene like this is basically pointless b/c they’re in the middle of a small residential neighborhood.

    • @dcsmooth
      @dcsmooth 3 роки тому

      Even Jimmy John’s showed up before them!

  • @HuasoPodrido
    @HuasoPodrido 7 місяців тому

    you have to love a brick house!

  • @FireRescue80
    @FireRescue80 3 роки тому +3

    Nice video Mike!

  • @azschalter
    @azschalter 2 місяці тому

    Being a fire fighter in Europe, it always baffles me to see how long it takes American fire fighters to stretch a line and get water going. Maybe it is the strange way they store and carry the hose lines!?

  • @iamlotsafun
    @iamlotsafun 2 роки тому

    Does everyone get a white helmet?? Just asking.

  • @ecw5394
    @ecw5394 3 роки тому +2

    Nice clip. Is there a full version you are going to post?

  • @HighOnLife1985
    @HighOnLife1985 2 роки тому

    What the hell was that with the engine coming up code 3 and then they're asking about a hydrant? Might as well let the place go.

  • @thomasjbak
    @thomasjbak 2 роки тому +1

    Yes, the house was a loss before they pulled up. But there was so much that should have been executed much better. Why was the first line 1 1/2 and not a 2 1/2? Why were the Chiefs working the nozzle and holding hoses? Nice beard on the truckie! They need to train more and better. Back to basics like ladder drills and putting the wet stuff on the red stuff. And I am happy no one was hurt. If they had to perform a rescue, it would not be pretty. Great job of filming!

  • @bobdambra4421
    @bobdambra4421 Рік тому

    Does anybody pick up a hydrant when they have a working fire??? They drove right by it

  • @steveostrosky540
    @steveostrosky540 3 роки тому +7

    Yeah...WAY too long to get water on this. And we're raising towers and cutting into garage doors long after the fire is knocked down as if "hey, we're here. Let's play with the gear". Seems Whitehall should send the family a check for using their house as a training fire.

    • @glennhuber4975
      @glennhuber4975 3 роки тому +1

      I bet you could do better? I bet, even though you have no idea about firefighting, and prolly never seen one live, but live to comment here about them and the firefighters. I dare you to do this at a fire ground , bet you get a stream of water from a 2 inch hose! Or even a punch in your snowflake face

    • @steveostrosky540
      @steveostrosky540 3 роки тому +2

      @@glennhuber4975 ummm....wrong? Over a decade of firefighting experience. But thanks for your comment.

  • @cornelfrancis5048
    @cornelfrancis5048 3 роки тому

    Somebody please tell me this is a training video.

  • @4merLawman
    @4merLawman 3 роки тому +13

    looked like a lot of kids with white helmets, you could see by their tactics the lack of experience. glad no one got hurt

    • @paramedic1210
      @paramedic1210 3 роки тому +2

      Welcome to today’s fire service

    • @michaelsheffler5710
      @michaelsheffler5710 3 роки тому +3

      And what would you have changed the whole house was off... a transitional attack was the only option at arrival you should keep your opinions yo your self...it's hard to tell by a video that's is cutting to different scenes every 15 seconds...and also that area is almost entirely volunteer

    • @joemagliari11
      @joemagliari11 3 роки тому +3

      @@michaelsheffler5710 the whole house was not off. You are the issue. There was fire out 2 maybe 3 windows. It’s amazing what happens when you take a door, flow as you go and fight fire from the inside. I feel for the people who live in this community, I’d live in fear having fire protection like that.

    • @joemagliari11
      @joemagliari11 3 роки тому +2

      @@michaelsheffler5710 and the volunteer / career debate is not valid anymore. You either train like you care and want to save lives or property, or you just don’t give a fuck at all. And if you’re at that point you may as well hang it the fuck up. Excuses are like assholes, everyone has one.

    • @michaelsheffler5710
      @michaelsheffler5710 3 роки тому +2

      @@joemagliari11 it absolutely is a debate I'm fortunate in our city we have everything we need as far as training...our own training facility, everything is at our fingertips... however every volunteer department does not have means and it's hard enough to train on your own time with the amount of hours required let alone having a family and a job...and having to say fuck every other word isn't necessary to get your point across.

  • @theno1deejay
    @theno1deejay 2 роки тому

    As usual, fast on place, but, were is the water?

  • @philipsmiley6008
    @philipsmiley6008 3 роки тому +5

    No need to waste time cutting that door open. Just go in through side window pull release and open door

  • @sheckieshpilka
    @sheckieshpilka 2 роки тому

    Is everyone on this department a chief?

  • @wjp255
    @wjp255 2 роки тому +1

    Well, the FD tried, but that house was gone way before they got there. Just hope that no one got hurt.

  • @TheTemporary
    @TheTemporary 3 роки тому +4

    I guess they get as many fire appliances and firefighters on site as one of them will know what to do.

  • @gingerbread6614
    @gingerbread6614 3 роки тому +5

    Great going guys. Thank you

  • @Bernie0481USMC
    @Bernie0481USMC 3 роки тому +9

    Wow! No hydrant for supply on anyone coming in hot. First apparatus on scene is a truck with no pump? Ringling Bros Fire Dept

  • @michaelpatanella
    @michaelpatanella 3 роки тому +1

    15 guys, with 12 of them wearing white chief helmets..... um.

  • @stephensails
    @stephensails 4 місяці тому

    The people handling the ladders LOL

  • @matthewscalise3553
    @matthewscalise3553 3 роки тому

    Is there any particular reason not one handline went through the front door??

    • @johnjablonski9292
      @johnjablonski9292 3 роки тому +1

      did you see the way flames are rolling out,,, god some of you people have NO clue on physics of fire

    • @firefighterpk2440
      @firefighterpk2440 3 роки тому +1

      @@johnjablonski9292 you happen to know the physics of water on fire? If i remember right it's about 16,000 to 1 water to steam.............Make a little steam through a window to lay the fire down a bit ( as he did), then get their asses in their before it builds back up. Pretty simple concept, done it numerous times in my 25 years

  • @peterarvanitis6497
    @peterarvanitis6497 3 роки тому +1

    Lot of discussion on this one probably after the fire itself they should critique it absolutely Officers first and combined afterwards house was going good on arrival btw

  • @3220fire
    @3220fire 3 роки тому +1

    This has to be some sort of training fire. The complete lack of urgency, the lack of any coordinated attack. And if this was a training event it was a bad one at that. And if this was a real fire ,as the home owner I'd want a refund on my fire taxes.

  • @jefferyronson8950
    @jefferyronson8950 3 роки тому +2

    looks like a total tear down and rebuild.

    • @bettermost
      @bettermost 3 роки тому +1

      Absolutely cheaper to rebuild than to fix that mess

  • @sigsourr
    @sigsourr 2 роки тому +1

    Impressive crew of all chiefs there in the beginning

  • @micheas_westward
    @micheas_westward 3 роки тому

    Anybody in the house ?

  • @anderss06
    @anderss06 3 роки тому +1

    One hose….. one F*CKING hose. How many apparatus? how many personnel?
    ONLY ONE HOSE. Time for new leadership and new training

  • @peterjackson2666
    @peterjackson2666 3 роки тому

    Either a training exercise, or perhaps new construction unfinished inside. There seem to be no furnishings inside any of the window, and they look like they have no glass in them. such houses burn really fast.

  • @RamboJohnJ
    @RamboJohnJ 2 роки тому +2

    Total loss even before first truck is on-scene. Sad.

    • @johnfellows2867
      @johnfellows2867 2 роки тому +1

      Imagine coming home from work to be confronted with that, damn !

  • @dougcalvert1040
    @dougcalvert1040 3 роки тому

    under investigation? I'm sure that was lit!!!! 29 years police 25 years fire service.

  • @matthew.m.stevick
    @matthew.m.stevick Рік тому

    How to nice new houses catch on fire? Is it owners for insurance?

    • @danielebrparish4271
      @danielebrparish4271 Рік тому

      Leaving something on the stove, making meth, forgetting to turn off a space heater, Christmas tree not watered, a kid leaving a curling iron on the bed without unplugging it, leaving without extinguishing a candle, using gasoline or other flammable liquids in the home and many other reasons.

    • @matthew.m.stevick
      @matthew.m.stevick Рік тому

      @@danielebrparish4271 what about playing with matches

    • @danielebrparish4271
      @danielebrparish4271 Рік тому

      @@matthew.m.stevick Yes, there are lots of possibilities but 75% of all house fires are caused by a stove that was left on.

    • @matthew.m.stevick
      @matthew.m.stevick Рік тому

      @@danielebrparish4271 but how does the fire spread from stove to other things … it’s contained to the stove

    • @danielebrparish4271
      @danielebrparish4271 Рік тому

      @@matthew.m.stevick Usually it's the result of oil or fat in a pan that is cooking on a stove. The oil/fat will ignite and the flames will ignite the cabinets above the stove or the wall behind it.ua-cam.com/video/TPxQciuC8kY/v-deo.html
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  • @stephens2755
    @stephens2755 3 роки тому +1

    The house has been destroyed, but the building site has been saved, thanks to the quick acting (!!!) firemen !!

    • @gibco25-offical56
      @gibco25-offical56 2 роки тому

      The house wasn’t a total loss.

    • @stephens2755
      @stephens2755 2 роки тому

      @@gibco25-offical56 Maybe, but now it is unworthy to repair, it is rather cheaper to build a new one !

  • @haydnprice9138
    @haydnprice9138 3 роки тому +1

    U.K. fire fighters would have this out before the first drops of water hit this blaze. Why on earth do so many stand around doing nothing before getting to work? It seems same thing in every video I watch. We all know it’s a dangerous job and full respect to all firefighters but sure you could learn a thing or two from the U.K….

  • @davidhoffman1278
    @davidhoffman1278 3 роки тому +2

    Send these firefighters back to ladder handling school and to the gym. They need lots of agility training, strength training, and balance training.

  • @richg.5692
    @richg.5692 3 місяці тому

    I don't care for the editing to make this look like TV news station clips. The raw, continuous video would be much more useful, particularly to see evolution of tactics over time. It helps to see the overall effort at the scene. I guess the videographer sells clips to TV stations, though.

  • @50rbrt
    @50rbrt 3 роки тому

    Why weren't they there sooner?

    • @tjlovesrachel
      @tjlovesrachel 3 роки тому +1

      Why weren’t you born 3 days before you were actually born?

  • @mathieuthomas7744
    @mathieuthomas7744 3 роки тому +2

    Nothing like the soothing sound of a cracking fire

  • @curtchase3730
    @curtchase3730 3 роки тому +8

    As most guys know, if you shake your hose, more water will come out! 😁

    • @TempoDrift1480
      @TempoDrift1480 2 роки тому

      You shake when the water stops coming out. You shake when there is water coming out you're gonna have a problem, a bucket and a mop.

  • @GrammarPoliceInvestigations
    @GrammarPoliceInvestigations 3 роки тому +1

    I'm shocked the tower didn't go up much much sooner.