Chapman Guitars ML-2 Quality Control - Setup & Inspection
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Wonder if the guy owning that particular guitar is watching this...
You guys at Chapman should sell your dented or messed up guitars that still work and play as b stock for those of us who are desperate for an .ml2 and love roughed up guitars.
Eric Frazer Fucking right, mate.
+Eric Frazer They do, through Andertons. I've got a B stock M L 2 for fifty quid off. Apparently it has a mark near the bottom strap post, I'm just getting my magnifying glass out. Can just about see it. Oh, and it plays great.
Theoretically the one with that serial number has gone up in value a bit...
Tim E No
Fair play to Chapman and the Captain these guitars look and sound fantastic and seem very reasonable , just have to work out how to buy another guitar without my darling wife realising or risk divorce and that could be very expensive lol.
Rob... Thanks so much for not forgetting us lefties. Currently saving my pennies for an ML2 lefty.
Exactly the same here xD
Can I have one of the dented ones for a third of the price ? ;)
wait, Bea is actually a left-hander?! and plays righty?! nice 9:15
Like a reverse Hendrix
Fuck me, he's left-handed!
Hello Rob, have you ever wondered about "prs shaped" ml 2 with double cutway?? That would be awesome, i'd be first person to purchase it :) Greetings mate.
Rabea, has anyone ever told you that you look exactly like Leslie West?
Inclduing the Products from Thoman too?
//Do they get shipped to you first and then to Thoman?
I think they go direct to thomann but thomann has there own quality station
Wait, wait so Bea writes left handed but plays guitar right handed? That dude has some skills!!
+jamie Outdoors As someone who's ambilateral (that's how you call it , I believe) it doesn't change a thing, really :) They're two very different things . I write and draw with my left hand and play right handed guitars, but it's just that you use the two very differently . It's not a skill or anything, it's just how it functions for us.
yeah im same as bea but still i didnt have the knowledge that there were left handed guitars when i bought my first guitar so im used to play it with the right hand
Me too. When I was a kid picking up guitar for the first time they said: kid, you just can't get lefties. So I got a rightie and learned to play that way... Guess that's why I focus on the fingering and not the picking...
Back on track now, will be new videos up soon ;-)
What happens to guitars that don't pass?? like one's that have dent's and/or finish problems. are they sent back to Korea and re-worked?? ;-)
Hi Neiretha, the prototype ML-2 was shipped with a neck gauge that I like, but after some playing I decided that a slightly thinner gauge will be more appropriate for the average player. That's exactly what prototypes are for, there are absolutely no inconsistencies in the production ;-)
Rob has a really inconsistent attitude to censoring profanity. Which I'm fucking FINE with.
bea is left
handed and plays with right like me. i first started of left handed but it didnt feel right. right handed felt more natural and learned that way lol
The guitars are all intonated at the factory for 10 gauge strings - we don't miss things like that.
Hi Skitch213, currently we have no B-Stock, the production is just perfect ;-)
Hi dude, all the Chapman guitars are sold through Andertons.co.uk ;-)
Congratulations dude! Welcome to the family ;-)
oh wow that sound is amazing
Love you dude ;-)
not a prayers chance this is true i got 3 diff ml7s and had to send all three back do to shotty qc.... both ml7t had bad bad finish issues and one had a pickup that wad twisted...yes twisted.... my ml7s was beautiful but couldnt get the action lower then 2.5mm at the 12th no matter what i took it to a pro and he said the frets needed a level... not cool on a brand new 700 dollar guitar... with the new line coming out i really hope the qc gets better. i ended up sending them all back and getting a diff brand all together.
CTO BEA ? ( Chief Technical Officer :-D ... )
well guys i am so happy to say that i am holding my ML2 Natural - its arrived 2 days ago ( Ser. No. 130-007 ML2 ) ... in a beautiful Gator case .. love it :-D
Greetings to Chappers and Co. from Austria ;-)
Chapman man please do video of Chapman ML-1 in Antique Sunburst, i want to see how it look and sound in video, im thinking about buying one they look amazing!!! sorry for my bad english
I wish you guys had a ml-3 in satin blue....
Sorry ml-3 modern player. The one with the HH.
I would like to see the factory where they are made aswell. Are you planning a trip down, Chappers?
make some antique sunburst ML-1's! id buy them, and im sure many more people would :)
Gerardo, I wasn't trying to be rude in any way. That was not my intention. I made a point that if you are going to show all the steps that take place during a quality check then include the intonation as well. Intonation goes hand in hand with tuning. It was just an observation that's all. I never said I can't intonate my own guitar. I don't think you're being rude. You're expressing your opinion and so was I. I live in a country with freedom of speech and have the right to express my opinions.
I've always liked Gibsons but they really have priced themselves out of the game for a lot of payers. I also like ESPs a lot and their LTDs are great guitars for the money. I had an LTD MH1000 a year or so back that was a great guitar. I can honestly say though that when I do get an Electric again I will be getting an ML2. Gotta give Chappers props for doing a great line of guitars with the player in mind and letting them choose what they want. Great features at a great price and done right too.
your guitars will have more value and exclusivity if you keep the production numbers relatively small and customer interaction will remain much higher and much more personal. Contrast that against saturating the market were supply outstrips demand. Do you want to be 'encore' or 'martin'? You appear so passionate about your product, more 'porsche' than 'nissan'? more 'morgan' than proton etc?
I am thinking of buying this ML-2. However, I have asked several questions & made a few comments but interestingly the only 1 that chapman guitars answered was "where can I buy this?", but ignored all other suggestions & comments? If the company gets too big U can't communicate with all your buyers on a personal level any more, the money & the corporate side tend 2 take over from attention 2 detail & the guitar should remain at the heart of the operation, not money, small (company) is beautiful
ML-2 can this be fitted with a tremolo arm?
In your design of the body (assuming you are holding the guitar as if you were playing it) I find that the top/back edge nearest the neck digs into my ribs and causes bruising and therefore it would be nice to see 'the waist' rear chamfer continued around that corner towards the neck (but not all the way to the neck i.e. phased out gradually). Hope you are listening Rob?
not really convinced with the quality control, #1 leave it to the guitar tech (Pablo) he may not be the best shredder but he knows better! wiped the guitar then you touched the guitar again. adjusted the height of the strings without checking intonation, then wrapped the guitar back again without wiping it down "again", then signed the box? how about electronics (opening the back plates), tuners, neck relief, fret buzz, tuning stability? No wonder my ML1 is always out of tune.
My latest online purchase was a disaster. When I opened the box, the headstock was spilit down the center. I was pissed. I sent it back straight away and they tried to jerk me around saying that I should have inspected it before signing for it! now who would make the Fedex guy stand there while you open the box and inspect it! Well, from now on, you will bet your ass I will. i don't care how long it takes.
Very true. Most people don't play their amps anywhere near their volume limit most of the time so a little drop in volume is no issue. I could see someone moving them very close if they're into real hard metal and want a very harsh and staccato tone, but it's not for me. I do usually place the bridge pickup fairly close. I don't have a measurement. I just start it low and raise it until I like the sound. It also depends on how strong the magnets in your pups are. Some pickups have weak mags.
Can I just say I met rob in glasgow on his previous tour with dorje and a nice gent I couldnt have met. I had a fairly lengthy talk about the silverback and his attention to detail was evident and if hes putting this level of knowledge into his guitars also im sure youll get a quality product i know for certain if i get some spare cash sitting soon ill be looking at a black ml-2. It has all the specs from various guitars i own on one that i prefer the most. Thanks again for the chat rob!
I've used the dime and quarter technique too. It works pretty well. I like fairly low action. Not shredder low, but low. You just have to make sure you don't have your pickups too high or they will pull the strings too much and cause buzz. Having the pickups too high fucks up the sustain too. I used to put them as close to the strings as possible, until I realized what was happening. You can have the bridge PUP fairly high as the string tension there alleviates the string pull.
This awesome!!!! it would be cool for a tuition about gear setup, effects pedal chaining ( Placement of dist, chours, delay ect. ) and A/B/Y switches, such as the bigshot and the twin city from radial, and also how to hook amps up to them and also Channel jumping and various other pro tips!! :) I know i would deeply appreciate your Knowledge and Insight about this overlooked bit of information. I thank you for your time :-)
contin: pushing down on the string at the 12th fret. You should just have a slight bit of space between the string and the 12th fret. Like that of a business card or so. This is assuming that your frets are level. If you have issues only on 1 or 2 frets, there's a decent chance they aren't. Lastly, if you have your pickups setup really high or close to the strings, the magnets can pull your strings down towards the frets and cause buzz and intonation issues.
You really don't need one. Just adjust the string height until you like how it feels. I usually just lower the strings as low as I can get them without having any buzz and then raise them from there if I wish to. You also want to make sure the neck is str8 without any string tension or has a slight downward bend when strung up to whatever tuning you play in. You can check that quickly by fretting thew low E at the 1st and last frets with different hands and then
Getting a really close up look of the trans black and wow that's gorgeous. When I get this new job, I know what I'm getting. The price for the ML-2 plus shipping to the US is AMAZING. And I'll definitely give it a metal test. Though, Chappers can shred wayyy better than me. But it'll be a consistent metal guitar for me. I really really want this. Props to you Rob! They truly look amazing.
I don't NEED another guitar... Why do you guys persist in making me want one? Another possible "what if" scenario (since I'm in the U.S. and was concerned about Q.C. and returns) shot down. Combined with the the new Antique Burst? c'mon man... jeez.
Theoretically, those things should've all been checked at the factory before it left. Maybe they're just giving it another quick once over? I've never played one, so I have no idea. Anyone who isn't a beginner should learn how to do these things anyways. There's more than enough info on the net to learn how. None of it's hard to do, with the exception of fret work.
Its good to know that each guitar is checked over and played before shipping. I once bought a guitar from a major retailer online (whos name is similar to an American teen TV show) where it was obvious that no one gave a toss, as I could'nt even plug a guitar lead into it, as the cable from the jack socket inside the guitar was blocking the socket.
I can not wait to Order mine!!!! just saving up, and I'm just about there!!! Such beautiful Sweet sounding guitars!!!! Honestly I'm filled with JOY and high expectations!!! I've been contemplating both the ML-1 or a fender tele, only because i've wanted one for a while But.. after all the awesome videos...... The Monkey Lord Prevails!!
Was that the Anderton's warehouse??? I wish I could run through it and get to keep what I could grab in 2 minutes.
Airsoft GI does something like that, they allow contest winners to run and grab items in the warehouse. I need to buy a Chapman guitar, and have Bea set it up.
Chappers, a question. On this video you say your neck is thicker. Is there a way to specify neck thickness when ordering, or is it just normal variations from the plant? I ask because I like thicker necks like you do but don't want to order an ML-2 if it is a skinny neck profile. Much respect...
Serialnumber starting with a W? I'd say that's a pretty strong indication for a factory called World Musical Inst. Co., Ltd where Schecter/LTD/PRS SE and other companys get their instruments built.
I'm aware that ebony is black, bro Josh. The ebony here looks dyed, almost glossy it is *so* black. Many companies, some big name companies, dye fingerboards. Just curious if Chapman guitars does this. Hope a staffer will reply.
If I went on the Andertons web site tonight and ordered one, how long until the FedEx guy knocks on my door to deliver my new ML-3? I think it's the ML-3. The red Tele with the carved top. The website says your still taking preorders. Any idea?
@Rob chappers, Im out looking for a new guitar and these ML 2's look real nice, before purchase however I would preferably like to play one, as I am very particular about how the neck feels. Does Andertons have them in store that I could try?
i love my ml2 but and am grateful for the efforts that have took place to create the ML series.
i like the ml1 also , can i have too many guitars and if i may be so bold how much and when is the silverback available ??
....what about the intonation, neck relief, nut, pickup height & angle in your setup and inspection? Don't wish to sound unkind but your setup didn't look that thorough to me though? Guitar looks and sounds amazing??
This is a "factory setup". It's no more or less in depth than any other guitar maker. Simple fix is taking the guitar to your local shop and having them set it up as SOON as you get it. Or do it yourself.
I am very impressed with these guitars but the one thing that bothers me is...I think the pickups would look a little better with a housing round them, a small detail, but is there enough room to use stock Gibson rings?...
all that is fine. It is ready to go out of box. I even left it in the trunk of my car in extreme weather conditions and it didn't seem to phase the guitar in the slightest. It's just that bit of paint on the neck...
eh i'd be fine with opening up a guitar to fingerprints as long as i know whose they are and for what purpose they're there. i clean my stuff surgically when i first buy it anyway. but of course not everyone's me.
when it's time for the ML-4 you should bring that up. that would be really cool. i can see a chapman ES-335-style. in one of these gloss finishes w/ the unfinished neck and reveal binding. would be beautiful.
It's awesome to know you have a guitar Rabea played.... It would be awesom if I could buy one, sadly I can't afford a new guitar anytime soon... but I'm looking forward to that glorious moment in future when I'll get one :D
I wish Bea had QC'd my ML-1, the action was high, the intonation is way off, no free strings, the neck needed wiping with a clean cloth and the volume pot only works in the last 2/10ths, must have been a Friday afternoon.
on of my guitars, a fender custom shop which ive had for a few years now choken when you bend on the e and b on the high frets, ive had the fret boared shaved and stuff but it still chokes, what could make this happen?!
I want one and I want one bad. I've never bought a guitar that I couldn't test drive first and I'm thinking of going out on a limb here. I've read the great reviews...this baby is golden!
Very impressive Rob, I bought a Les Paul custom and had to set it up myself. For what I paid you would think they would set it up somewhat. Great job my friend, looking forward to buying a ML2 soon.
Chappers i have been following you for some years now and i have witnessed the birth of chapman guitars and i wish only the best for your company and for you. I hope you enjoy many successes in your carrer
Just to say rob your guitars now are really becoming a lovely sight to look at, all these different finishes really do make them look stunning, are we ever going to see a chapman acoustic? :)
Every time you post a new video with ml-2s I change my mind about which finish I want, sometimes several times in one video. I guess that means I cant go wrong.
My guitar would fail this by a long way ;D haha. Many gig miles on the poor thing. Tis battered and bruised - But I love it all the same, so all is good!
who else thinks that chapman guitars sould make an ml2 with a trem and a ml1 with a hard tail and bring back an affordable version of the ghost fret like if u aggre
so being a killer player is a must in your company? haha
do you guys also make this model with mahogany neck and custom ordered pickups, like bare knuckles or whatever?
Cool got my ml2 one week ago number 120008, but i need to adjust the truss rod the neck is completely straight, wich it shouldn't be. Getting a lot of buss when fretting.
Also apart from my comment a lot of comments below has questioned the same things I have. It's a video with good intentions but poorly executed.
Also, if you can't intonate your own guitar why do you even play? In times like this you can find hundreds of tutorials online. Maybe I was rude but so were you.
Dude, you can find about a million of those on here. And they didn't even show how to intonate the guitar, adjust the truss rod, or change your pickup height.
I love my ML-2 it plays great. I have a question though, is the W12 or W13 the year it was made in because I have W130001ML2 was it the first made in 2013?
What defects will cause a ML to be rejected? What happens to the rejected ones? Fixed, sent back to Korea, binned, used for door stops?
So your quality control doesn't check intonation, nut action, pickup height, neck relief or even if the truss rod works (etc .) ??? Are you kidding ?
If you have the lace sensors you can place the pickups really close to the strings. They don't have nearly the string pull issues that other pickups do.
Do you sell in New York City and does it come LEFTHAND
I just want to say my Ml-1 is absolutely class love it to bits and i hope to be getting more from chapman guitars very soon :)
dude, very cool video really like that you get in there and show peeps that your keeping it real! Great fro, definitely one of a kind~!
If I my ask why are the necks on such a big angle and the pickups raised WAY up out of the body. Seen some pictures on the MLF as well...
I quite like the position markers. It still looks sleek and professional like the mostly blank fretboard, but it's much more useable.
@RobChappers,
Hey Rob, I just got my ML-2 (cherry) in the mail and there's some paint from the body on the neck...what do I do?
Will you made a model who looks like the PRS Strat ? :) There are so beautiful but really expensive :/ (Sorry for my english ^^')
Guess mine skipped quality control it sucks
Are you planning to add transparent pick guard? Unfortunately, my pinky will scratch the body.
I bought a ML-2 Classic used. I have major fretbuzz on low E. How to approach?
Great sound aside from that?
Chappers. Where on earth can you get the action gauge Bea is using ?! By far the best looking action gauge ruler ive ever seen !
You should really slacken off the string tension before making any action height adjustments.
Hey Bea! I notice you write left handed, but play left handed. Why? I only ask because I'm a left handed, but I play guitar right handed.. I play righty because that was the only type of guitar that was around. I was wondering about why you kinda took the same path.
Must have something to do with his Dad.
His Dad's also a guitarist, who I assume is right handed (or at least has the same approach as yourself and Rabea) after seeing his Strat in one of Rabea's videos and I'm guessing that's what Rabea started playing on.
Thanks for a video, guys! Could anyone tell me if the ML-2 handles C-drop tuning, please? Thanks in advance! Cheers
i wanted to have a chapman guitar but the thing is i live in the philippines dont know if they have one here??
Ok...here is the thing....I'll sell blood to get enough money to buy one of this and to pay the shipment to America...
You guys at Chapman should sell your dented or messed up guitars that still work and play as b stock for those of us who are desperate for an .ml2 and love roughed up guitars.
Very intresting video. I always like to see how factories or shops set up thier guitars. I dream if having an ML1!!
so, when i buy a chapman guitar, there is a chance i'll also get a free autograph from Bea? ALLRIGHT, LEZ DO THISSS
Is Dawson guitars in Liverpool selling these guitars. I'm going over on Thursday and I would like to see one in person
hi guys awesome video would love to know where you got that ruler with all the differnt hight settings from thanks,