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How to Sing REALLY Low Using Constriction (SUBHARMONIC SINGING)
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- Опубліковано 16 сер 2024
- This video explains how to use constriction to make the subharmonic vocal coordination in order to sing really low. Essentially we have tension, or constriction, within the vocal folds themselves and above the vocal folds whenever we make sound. When we make "normal" sound that doesn't have any kind of added noise such as creaking or the false vocal folds distorting, we are balancing the tension/ constriction. To get the subharmonic we have to "mess up" the balance.
0:00 Intro
00:43 What is a subharmonic
1:40 The two ways to get a subharmonic
2:34 Explaining “constriction”
3:30 Releasing constriction to get a subharmonic
5:15 Adding constriction to get a subharmonic
6:19 What if nothing works?
8:22 Add “voice" to the creak
9:38 Balancing the constriction
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i tried learning subharmonics with another video, but i have to say your explanation, especially in the "what if nothing works" section is A+
I am not a dude, but I can sing from A0 to A5 in chest, using the humming technique and the subharmonic vocal technique for my lowest notes and the upper belting technique for my highest notes, but I can also reach the notes from A1 to A0 with fry, so on the days when I cannot go lower than A1 / G1 using the subharmonic technique I can still reach those notes using the vocal fry, though A1 / G1 to A5 is very stable and I can access this chest range at any time or almost any time - I can also sing from C6 in C8 in actual head voice, as I am the coloratura sopranino with the highest and whitest / lightest / brightest voice ever, which has extreme flexibility and agility, and I have the widest natural ranges in all vocal registers, so even my mixed voice can be stretched up to a C7 on a good day, and my whistle register goes from the 4th octave into the 10th or 11th octave, as it goes into the inaudible! (To go lower, I would recommend learning the subharmonic vocal technique, as one can go lower using this technique!)
I sing basso profundo. I can do a G0 with subs while my chest voice starts at E1. Octave ZERO sounds cool! Earthquake notes!
Chest voice at E1. I am very impressed. I need to hear this.
G0 in chest someday
So jealous of basses' sexy low notes! As a young mid/low tenor (I'll identify myself as low, not sure) I'm struggling to sing A flat 2 in chest.
@@chengliklik wait till you're my age. You'll drop a bit. A2 at a "young" age, not sure what you are is good. Embrace singing rather than killing your cords like 99.99% percent of singers do.
@@towerofresonance4877 Young as in I'm 20 y.o., and I'm just an amateur singer haha.
dan mirabal is the master of this technique. jumps from chest voice to subharmonic in melodic phrases almost as if they were the same register. traditionally he's a lower light baritone voice whose chest voice bottoms out between D2-Bb1 depending on the day, but with subs he can get all the way to like E1/Eb1 as a part of a melodic phrase. marwan ayman, geoff castellucci and bobby waters are all also fantastic at using this register musically, and are all capable of notes as low as B0, but dan's ability to phrase subharmonics in a vocal line is unparalleled.
It is crazy to see someone call D2 a low light baritone as a tenor who can barely eeek out an Ab2 or G2 on a good day without extended technique.
@@LiamFarleyMA if it makes u feel any better steve perry from journey never sung a note below C3 lol
It’s not baritone, chest is around G2 in that case with resonance
@@zoteck9177 he probably wouldn't be heard past the first row in an unamplified setting below like A2 or so. he's definitely a baritone
Your explaination FINALLY helped me! After years and years I always felt it was a 50/50 if I tried hitting harmonics or even vocdal fry. I feel as if the technique involved tightening one day, and loose another day. Then the hundreds of tutorials I watched, either say tightening OR loosening. Only FINALLY after watching your video EVERYTHING CLICKED!!! Finally!! Thank you so much!
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The same thing you're doing is the same technique I use to fry scream. I'm just leaning in with it and drawing back a lot of air and extending into a falsetto. So I got this in under a minute, thank you!
I watched tens of videos on this topic, but only this helped me. Thanks a lot!
Greg is not only the best singing teacher but you will have a great time with him ! He is funny as hell! I made a lot of progress !
Thanks again and see you next week !
Another great video greg! Please can you make a video in the future about increasing vocal range, and your experiences about it?
Your videos are getting more professional, better produced and the actual info is top class as always! You have great skill of explaining things which is awesome in singing pedagogy.
One question tho :D I have literally the oposite problem. When i try to find nice, relaxed throat position, soft, easy produced voice I tend to go creaky. The creakiness is happening without my controll throughout the whole range (especially in the passagio which itself is really low, around c4). On the one hand I have very constricted, pushed voice, on the other creaky, unbalanced one.
@@StudioWestLessons thanks for the advice, Greg. I tried to contact you via email, but didn't get an answer, figured i can reach you here again. Wanted to have a few private lessons.
Alexey.
I learned so much from this actually from your original one but this is a great augmentation. I can sing G1. Additionally the rest of my chest to mixed voice has benefited exponentially in clarity and strength from doing these subharmonic hijinks. XoXo
I love your channel and how you follow the CVT book, we need more videos! I would love to see a video on how to reach very high notes for male in chest voice without straining the vocal chords (like a 5)
This is the most clear explanation about subharmonics I have ever seen on UA-cam.
Thank you for being willing to share this with us without asking for a donation or trying to push a product. Lets all shake the walls together! (Or just another brick there in)
wtf! I've finally found what my voice does almost automatically at certain ranges. People told it me it was applied fry on top of full voice, false cord stuff, whatever. But this is exactly what it is. It happened actually as a result of some wring vocal habits and now its almost automatic at certain ranges.
Being able to introduce vocal fry when adding constriction and when releasing constriction. That's a nice revelation!
I'm just a gal, so I'll never sound very impressive, but I goof around out in the field or alone in the car hum-frying bass pedal on organ and other music, and it is fun. I've noticed that when I do this a while, my vision improves. Maybe it is because of these nice healing frequencies reverberating in my sinuses near my eyes.
Thank you for your tutorial videos!
Wow! That is so cool!
I did hear two voices as I was doing this! I’m only about five minutes in. This is going very well so far!
This is weird but i can do the subharmonics really well for my first time but i cant seem to go higher with it.
When I first learned subs I basically just made a sound and then tried to relax my throat to get the subs. But I didn’t realize I could do it by constricting me. I wish I wasn’t super sick with a head cold so I could properly practice. 😂
Hey Gregory.. you got a gift of transferring knowledge man! Cheers! By the way...can you come up with an "ultimate" daily exercise that will help us develop all vocal registers from Chest to Mix to Head and so on....an exercise we can use before going into training a specific register that we might need to work with more! Thanks! =)
6:15 this subharmonic talking is helped me with getting a clear second subharmonic. 😜
Thanks! I learned it as I went along with the video. (dancing)
Great video (as always), would you say that this tension needed to get the subharmonic starting from a neutral quality, is it related or the same as the flageolet tension of your other video?
Your terminology is a bit finicky but the explanation is very nice overall. You got a new sub!
I wish to learn to add more volume to the vocal fry or "creaking" as you call it. There's gotta be a way a to do it without switching back to chest voice but mine is not loud enough yet..
One of the keys for more volume is to not squeeze as tight. Tight sounds will not get as loud. You need to have a balance of a little more airflow through the folds and less resistance in them blocking that air. Hope it helps!
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You're the best, people just need to come across you
When I keep my voice fry increasing in pitch it transformed in my whistle register.. And also I create lowest possible note by the sound that comes when we clear our throat it's like roaring.. Is it subharmonic?
What you are describing sounds a bit like a growl. The kind of growl that is used in death metal. As far as i know its somewhat related to kargyraa (mongolian throat singing). Except its distorted.
Is it normal to gag?
Incredible, thanks to you !
Great video Greg!
Kenny Rodgers was the first one I heard that first added the sub harmonics in his songs
Nice video Greg!
You look so handsome in this video Greg. And the contents are awesome as usually
How do I apply subharmonics on my high notes? Like al ways every note… so that my highs don’t sound high but have the lower resonance. Any methods?
For me it’s hard because some times I can’t tell if I’m using my throat bass/throat singing or subharmonics because they are both so similar!
Hey I have a question about subharmonics, so I’m able to hit the first one but when I try to hit the second one I end up going higher and into my false settle and it’s almost like a voice crack but if I lightly apply pressure to the sides of my throat then I’m able to hit it sometimes but it’s still very shaky between false settle and my first sub harmonic. Could you help me with that?
Hopefully somebody can help me out. I have very much tension in my throat and especially under the chin when belting high. I have been working with a CVT teacher for a while now and we fixed my mouth shape when singing specific vowals, we fixed jaw tension and we fixed tongue tension. However, even though my jaw and tongue feel good, the sound I'm making still sounds pushed and feels heavy/strained. Anyone any ideas on how to fix this or what to try to fix it?
Honestly, I dont know whether the breath support I am using is good. Maybe it has something to do with this? Everyone seems to talk about breath support first.. please someone help. I have been struggling with this for such a long time now. No vocal coach has been able to help me yet.
Oh also: my posture is extremely bad. I have a hard time standing straight but i have seen people sing beautifully in weird positions too..
PLEASE DO A VIDEO ON BASS GROWL
Ok so i have no issues finding and consistently hitting the subharmonics
But i just can't keep it stable for more than a second or two...
Like i lose the balance of the creak and either fall to the fry or drop it completely
Amazing tutorial, unlike my unexistant flageolet this one came quite easilly!
Exactly same experience! I was trying so hard to get that flageolet thing, but the subharmonic one was like "click", and then I'm like oh there it is.
You don't use tension to access the subharmonic register. You just back off the note until your voice cracks. It also isn't too reliable for those with severe allergies, unfortunately.
Kargyraa, or throat singing, is very different and uses extreme tension.
@@StudioWestLessons Well, yes. But nearly all singing requires vocal tension since that is the constriction you are referring to. The only thing I'm aware of that really doesn't is glottal fry, so that context of constriction seemed somewhat redundant, imo. I guess I was just being technical when I said there was a difference between them, because calling kargyraa subharmonics can confuse some. I really just wanted to further explain the feeling in your vocal mechanism when attempting to get into your subharmonic register.
By the way, I did watch your whole video, because I hate when people don't watch an entire video that I upload. I'm really commenting to add a little extra to what you said, as well as help the algorithm.
@@StudioWestLessons True, but the tension I was referring to was full adduction of the vocal folds, being as vocal fry is really produced by slowing the airflow through the very loose folds, and not so much on the widening or lengthening of the folds. I believe this is why vocal fry takes your voice down to sub-contra octave notes with ease, albeit not really discernable notes.
I do agree though that sometimes a less optimal technique may be and often is required for some to get the resulting sound they want. Just hopefully, they will learn better technique as they go.
Also, you're welcome for the view! 😄
@@StudioWestLessons According to this video, a doctor explains that although there is extreme tension of the area that the vocal folds are connected to (which you have mentioned), the vocal folds themselves are extremely loose and slack.
ua-cam.com/video/FwUEu3McHg8/v-deo.html
Also, I remember when I was receiving voice lessons from my choir director/music pastor, he told me that the folds themselves are very loose during vocal fry.
Hmm... I'm not sure, but I do believe as well that there is regular fold closure in at least the subharmonic register, because as I said above, I believe that vocal fry is the only register without full fold closure. Subharmonics are indeed relatively new, it would seem. I know I learned of the technique about 4 years ago.
The sad part is, with my extreme allergies, neither subharmonic register or head voice are reliable to me in actual song, being as they require a clear throat and nasal passageway, respectively. Some days I get lucky for an hour or 2, but for most of them both of the registers are quite unusable, leaving me with the low bass part of my chest range. 😔
@@StudioWestLessons Yes, for sure. Allergies are actually the reason I never tried to go anywhere with my voice as of yet. If I didn't have them, I certainly wouldn't be working in the auto industry like I currently am. It makes me jealous of those who can sing well, but without the allergies. 😕
Practicing this when you're new sounds like you're pining for the dial up modems 😆
omg i just realized that always i get this subharmonic sound instead of getting a regular clean sound how to i reverse it??
i get this wired sound every time i try to sing higher and mix
@@StudioWestLessons tnx ill try that
At least now i know its not nodules
are there multiple levels of this because I hit some first octave note
Very good video , but how can i get into 2nd subharmonic ? =)))
Nice composition in the background tho!
Hi Greg, in other video you said that before mixing you should be able to get your chest voice to a g4, just wanted to ask some tips to do that, i can barely hit an e4, more than that i flip into falsetto. Thanks!
@@StudioWestLessons @Gregory West that would be awesome. Btw today in singing lesson I managed to hit an actual g#4 haha, still expecting that video anyway🧐
Well, I am 15, my chest voice is C1, but I can reach F0 with subharmonic voice, not joking
Was your original name Polish? Grzegorz Bystrzycki maybe?
Geez you have a nice tenor voice :)
I wouldnt call that a tenor voice... it lacks the purity, depth and requisite classical roundness
@@liquidDeath99 What would you call it then?
Not the unintentional whistles at 7:01
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Thanks! Now I can do the cheeseburger sardukar chant now
1st!!!! Hahaha thanks Sir Greg 😊
is it normal to also hear polyphonic tones while I'm doing this or am I doing it wrong O_O
@@StudioWestLessons the subharmonics are clear, I just hear quiet high polyphonic tones when changing my mouth shape slightly. Might just be an unintended overtone creation
.....just add support to your fry and you'll hit it every time, maintaining it will take a bit of practice
Just try to sound like a Buddhist monk chanting
You are supossed to relax your vocal cords not squeze them
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You aren't exactly accurate on that. If you actually want to learn it really good go to David Larsson. He is one of the OG on subharmonics and singing low
@@StudioWestLessons You're characteristics of engaging and disengaging the technique produces subharmonic but not in an efficient way. That makes it often on one end whistly (when there are pops of quite the high tones), and on second end it is happening. You are using the rasp part of subharmonics that is harder to control also. It is better for the voice and for the quality to start lower and the control of rasp will follow.
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But constriction is bad according to Bel Canto🤧