Broken Hornby Flying Scotsman | Salvage or Scrap?
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- Опубліковано 8 сер 2024
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0:00 Intro
1:15 The Loco
2:12 First Test
2:31 The Challenge
3:34 Bodywork Restoration 1
5:41 Chassis Restoration
10:41 Bodywork Restoration 2
15:25 Results - Авто та транспорт
The fact that the scrap man was in the thumbnail made me really think the loco was done for. My jaw literally dropped when the lass (bc technically Fliyng Scotsman is a female) ran forward
haha I thought it was done for too - still don't know how she made it through the test!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Why did they name it the Flying Scots*man*?
@@wacky_duck1095 it was named after the service it ran, you took the flying scotsman line to Scotland, later on the train they used adopted the name
Did you see it in its 'international women's day' livery in march 2020?
@@hamoostaffat no i don't spend hours digging around flying Scotsman liveries
@@wacky_duck1095 too busy watching people fixing broken trains you have no real world interest in? sorry I said anything, jeez
Loved this video. I have an all original Hornby Flying Scotsman that my father purchased for me around 1980. It is in absolutely perfect shape. I added engineer and fireman figures at the time. It is one of my prized possessions.
just remember, it took 11 years to overhaul the real thing last time, so by comparrison your 50 min was a blink of a eye.
is it a quarting issue, or is there a bent axle?
or maybe bearing issue or bent axle or warped wheel?
haha I know right - what were they messing about at?! My guess would be the plastic insulator on one or more of the driving wheels has perished and put the wheel out of quarter and gauge... a service was enough to get it running again temporarily (phew), but it's not running properly any more sadly :(
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@@SamsTrains the Real Flying Scotsman was a victim of Bureaucratic Incompetence, and hidden problem syndrome. the new boiler they got turned out to not fit, the people doing the restoration hadn't a clue what in the holy mary Mother of Joseph what they were actually doing, and, after figuring out the boiler had given up the ghost, they fixed the boiler only to further discover even MORE serious problems than first thought - namely, the frames were, to put it nicely, buggered. so yeah, basically chop the bad frames off, fit new ones, and refurbished the boiler so it'd now fit, plus refitting the double chimney and raising the BP up again.
@@SamsTrains perhaps you could try to fix that little bit one day? Would be pretty interesting and a good way to spend time when you have nothing to do
Love this series , shame its almost in the end .Maybe you could do a series to repair trains that viewers send to you ?!
Thank you so much! I have had a lot of offers for that- but I already have enough scrappers for a second series next year, all being well! :D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Great video, Sam, glad you could restore it! Though I don’t remember the A3’s being a part of the GWR, those statistics must be faulty!
haha yeah!! Not my fault, honest! ;)
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Yeah its actually lner
@@SamsTrains I have a really old train that is not running properly cuz it's motor has seized up so I wonder if you can fix it
It has not been restored given the eBay description for it :
It's been over 6 months since the episode was filmed, and the performance has unfortunately gone downhill since then. It now runs backwards okay, but just jams up running forwards. Suspected serious wear & tear on the wheelset. While it does technically run, sold as a non-runner.
@@johnd8892 interesting, though it still got up to £130+ which for a non-runner in that condition is impressive
Just watched all 5 episodes, and this is oddly the most 'you' series you've made XD Love it all Sam!!!
haha thank you so much Luke!! :D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Your amazing Sam
Keep up the good work. :)
Great video.
It reminded me James May rebuilding and renewing his 1970s Flying Scotsman.
Re-magnetising the motor is vital (and oddly fun).
Don’t forget his train would also go from Barnstaple to Bideford with “realistic” chuffing sound
Ahh I loved that programme - such a good episode!! :D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
for anyone wondering: the show us called the reassembler, and many episodes are available on youtube
Amazing job! This Flying Scotsman reminds of the similar one James May had as a child as seen in his series James May's Toy Stories.
Excellent. My father bought me one of these when I was a keen young rail enthusiast. Eventually, over time, he also bought four awful teak effect coaches. The detail might have been pretty grim, but to me, it was the finest thing I had on the layout! Funny, the things we remember. My father was a telephone engineer, based in various telephone exchanges. He used to bring home wire, small lamps and bits and pieces of scrap switchgear etc. I used to think he had probably "borrowed" it. Six years ago, my father passed away and when going through all the paperwork (he kept everything), I found receipts for all the things he had brought home for the layout. All paid for and above board..... Thanks for provoking some wonderful memories Sam. Nige
'When little things look good, it can give the whole model a lift.' Darn right. When I got my first brand-new car, I was given some neat advice -- if you don't have time to wash the whole car, just wash the hub-caps. That really worked like a charm.
My 1972 Hornby Flying Scottsman is the pride of my collection. I was able to pinpoint the year due to being still in box.
Also, yours is shiney, mine isn't, I'm guessing they go that way due to exposure.
I actually recently performed a DCC conversion on it.
Great series, wouldn’t need the “timing” stuff, nevertheless I love to rebuild locos myself .. great job done here. You may use a glasfibre cleaning pencil as well. Works great to clean small stuff instead of your brute force method using the Dremel..
This was super relaxing to watch while I worked on an art project! (which is coincidentally drawing The Flying Scotsman). Can’t wait to watch more in future!
Flying Scotsman was saved by a miracle
It was probably scrapped
No it is in excursion service
haha she certainly was! xD
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@@mermaidfan2420 it wasn't she's still Running hopefully seeing her next weekend
@@SamsTrains you Welcome
Screw cable TV, this is the kind of quality I expect to see on television!
haha thanks so much Arif! :D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Tremendous creativity and entertainment. I really love this series Sam and hope you keep on doing it.
Thank you so much - really appreciate it mate! :D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Yes Sam don't stop after these last three please :)
The fact that it’s not running great forward just shows that some kid had allot of fun with this model and that’s all that counts
This one is probably my favorite of the series so far!
Great job!!
Thank you so much! I think it's my favourite too! ;D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
I Am So Relieved You Fixed Him.
Cheers, And Keep Up The Good Work.
Greetings from America! What a great series sam. And way to show how some good old fashioned elbow grease can go a long way. Just throwing out an idea for you, I know my family and I would love to see a little narrow gauge content. I would love to see your perspective on those industrial little locos whether it be 009 or 16mm scale. Anyway, love the channel, and keep up the good work, steam on!
Another great video Sam! I wonder if a little "running in" in reverse might be what helped it to go forwards. I noticed that it started slow in forward then sped up a bit. Well done. It is definitely more exciting when it seems to be headed for scrap but you saved it. Hurrah!
Just like in real like
This is fun and also educational! It gives me some confidence in performing major maintenance on my Hornbys. Another great idea Sam!
Fantastic Job Sam, I was on the edge of my seat on this one, well done.
i'm so glad that flying scotsman was safe in the because of it's performance of going forward and now she can ride the rails again well done sir keep up the good work love your videos 🙂
I really enjoy this series of videos. I have recently come into possession of a Bachmann 2.8.0 which is in dire need of a service which is not the main issue. That issue is the valve gear. One of the valve gear rods come adrift with the rivet holding two moving rods together falling out. That cannot be fixed with superglue. It is very frustrating trying to nut out a way to connect the two rods that allows them to move as intended..
Well done Sam. I am glad that you managed to save an oldie but a goldie. Maybe it will just need a little more TLC and a gentle run. A couple of runs round the block. I think you might be a genuine guru . Happy days.
Nice save. I do a lot of these types of repairs as well. Haven't tackled a Hornby yet. I do have a Flying Scotsman but it works perfectly and is in good cosmetic shape so it wouldn't be a good candidate for this type of repair. Most of my repairs have been Bachmann, Life-Like, and Atlas diesels.
First time I've seen this series Sam. Jolly good stuff!! Keep up the good work.👌🏻
3 locos left! A lot of work on this one. Great video. I love this series.
Thank you so much - see you on the next one! :D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
cutting out an inside curve, like the bottom of the nameplate is the hard way to do it. a scalpel or fresh craftknifeis much easier using a large eraser to hold down the paper and of course always cutting away from your hand is important for safety. keep up the good work
Your best series by far. A fantastic television format.
Impressive performance. The drivetrain problem solving itself was something unexpected. Great job you have done, I'm still in for your next issue !
Me too Oliver - very surprising! I expect it's due to the weight on the wheels!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
The one I have been waiting for. Thank you for uploading this one.
It's a pleasure - glad you enjoyed it! :D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
This is the first of this series I've stumbled upon, but wow was this great!
"Leave that to suffer for a second"
I died XD
Great video as always. But can I just ask....... At the beginning when the information is put up about the loco, how long has there been an A3 locomotive built and ran by the GWR???
00:43 lol how can you sleep at night knowing that thing exists in your house😐😂
Would love to see a video about how you fix wheel wobble and quatering. I have issues of wobble on Many locomotives, and a quatering issue on a an LMS engine, possibly a princess class, where I had to remove the wheel due to a damaged plastic lug. (I actually installed a plastic washer to fix it)
I much prefer that old type of motor. Mainly due to fond memories of my Dad, showing me how to Maintain them..!
Good video Sam thx..! 😎
Man cant wait for another installment in thus series, it us very entertaining to watch.
would you be able to tell me where you got your remagnetiser? i am limited to replacing magnets, but new alternatives look out of place and often don't fit quite right...
Just remember if that CN loco don't go, send it home on our channels dime. All the parts are here. Still watching 🚂🚃🚃🇨🇦
Love this new feature, the Scrap Man wouldn't look out of place during Halloween lol
Great to see it working again. Enjoyed watching Thanks for showing. Cheers Paul 🥂🚂🥂🚂🥂
Thanks a lot Paul, I'm glad you enjoyed it! :D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
The first driver axle may need to be re-quartered judging by the bouncing and binding. Great video, Salvage or Scrap is a great series, I would love to see you fix a Mantua steam loco.
Sam you should do more salvage or scrap i really love this series!!!
Thank you so much - I am hoping to do more! :D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Great to see quite an old model run for the first time!
Thank you so much!! :D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
I love watching these videos Sam please don't stop after the last three.
Oh What a save. The poor lad almost got eaten. Mighty fine works
haha thank you! Yes very close shave this one! ;D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@Bushmonster Wilhelm who?
@@MegaWrexandGunkster The train?
Wow at the end it WAS a close call. But jolly good work.
So, I have a Flying Scotsman like that one, but a bit more modern, and I'm missing the back coupler for the tender. Where can I find a replacement?
Scrapman:I am the scrapman! 0:43
15:21 Maybe when you do that transition with the Scrapman, you could probably do an electric buzzing sound when its eyes blink on and off rather than that cartoon blinking sound.
haha cool idea! :D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Use a black Sharpie pen for touch ups like that. It's permanent, and dries in seconds.
I use a permanent marker pen to touch up the old triang carriage couplings as they are painted metal on some wagons and carriages. Safe to say it makes them look good but to make them look better, but I would have to borrow some of the primer and black paint we use on the carriages at the Severn Valley Railway, as it would really make them look good
Great idea Brian - I have tried that before and it seemed to work!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Nice work @Sam’sTrains lovely Scottsman
excellent video there sam ! and these was actually quite the sit on edge moment iam telling you, the flying scottsman was so close to being eaten by the scrap man by just the buffers, but it manage to pull thru, like you said it may not be the greatest runner, but it is quite the soldier making it thru, and hey at least the scrap man got some buffers to snack on, so its a win win. i really hope you do a season 2 of salvage or scrap, it would be interesting to see some techniques and how to whilst a timer goes of and the answer to the question, will it be scrap or will it be salvaged ? anyway i hope to see another video soon cya later
haha thank you! Yeah I think this was the most tense episode for me too, lol! I'm amazed it worked at the end - there's something seriously wrong with it, but somehow it managed to work at the end!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
I've been waiting as well! Season 2 I hope is coming soon. Maybe you should do eBay lots for the season 2
Thanks so much! If there's a seaon 2, they might just be sold the same was as season 1!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
This would actually make a good TV show! Kinda nice you can do this on UA-cam, I imagine it's WAY harder to get on television
I actually restored one of those recently! Mine was in much better shape to begin with asthetically but the mechanism was a ringfield tender drive model and it was shot. Had to get new springs and brushes and do a lot of cleaning. Good old ringfield motors! It still twitches once in a while so it's not a perfect runner but it's pretty close for what it is.
That's fantastic to hear - it's very satisfying isn't it? :D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@@SamsTrains It really is. Always loved the Flying Scotsman. Used your video on repairing a ringfield motor to help me through it too! Thanks for making these videos! ^..~
Did you sort the driving issue?
It did look like a quartering issue as the front driving axle did seem to be the culprit. Looking at the Connecting rods from the middle axle to the front it seemed as if the front one dipped down which would indicate a quartering issue. Did the firebox glow work?
Even if the model does not run it looks great. Down the road you may be able to get it to run. I sure would not get rid of it.
first time i commenting down on a sams trains video in a while
and just by the skin of its teeth it survived well done sam
thx ben :)
Welcome back Ben - haha yeah it was a close shave!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Finally! I was waiting for the Scotsman video.
Also what's the music you use at the beginning of the video? I quite like the guitar melody in it
haha yep - it's the big challenge! That's a good question - I'm not too sure which one it was now!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@@SamsTrains ah alright, it's all good
Besides your random holiday videos this is the best series of videos on your channel
haha thank you so much! Surprised you like the random holiday videos, lol! ;D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Could list to many reasons.
Don’t scrap it don’t sell it don’t throw it away don’t put it in the attic forever don’t throw it in a box and never find that box again don’t get rid of it the memories that come with it are far more valuable you may not realize it yet but soon you will in a few years..
The Flying Samsman!
Nice job Sam!
Yes at last! Thank you Percy! :D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Great Show ,, I'm from Canada ,,, Was Quality Control Manager for Tyco Model Trains ,, I have always collected Triang Hornby ,, back to a massive collection today ,, thanks to ebay and Train shows event ,, Mainly collect the Canadian Triang Stuff ,, CPrail ,, CN ,,, Canadian Pacific sets ,, nice restore job ,, I'll tell ya ,, i in the off season ,, after production lines ,, would repair thousands of locomotives , diesel and mantua steam ,,, Question ,,, Whats your ebay link ,,, love the series ,, keep on keepin on
Well done Sam. You saved the beloved "Scottie" from the evil Scrapman! By the way, has the model now been sold on eBay, as I can't see a link in the description for it. Best, Pete.
Nice job! Where can one get one of those re-magnetizers?
excuse hornby A3? bruh thats an a1 still all of your vidios brighten up my day keep the channel going and stay safe from this tragic viris we are dealing with
Jesus Sam, your scrap man is rather frightening, yet funny too !! Well done with an iconic train. That was my first train 50 years ago, oh yea, that makes me feel old.
Question: I a born again modeller in OO. Need to clean my engines wheels. How can I make them turn when they are not on the track as they otherwise don't move ??
The intro to this video series gives my DIY Network vibes.
when you go over the specks of the model, you call it a GWR A3 instead of an LNER A3. It doesn't change the fact that you did an amazing job!
haha good spot Max - that was my bad! Thanks though! :D
Cheers,
Sam :)
You saved the lock's life your a great UA-camr Sam I love your videos
I love your series i think its amazing and the best series i can't wait for the next episode
Thanks so much Chris - really appreciate it! :D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Anyone remember the time flying Scotsman met up with southern railway 4501 and 750? I remember it was a very crowded event. A meetup between three famous engines like that may never happen again.
It's a nice engine, to be honest, still outclassed by my Daylight, which is running strong for an engine that's as old as my sister (both are 15 years old), though the cars are fairly recent, (less than a year old).
Yeah they're lovely aren't they? Great to hear your Daylight is so good then! :D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
*remembers James may's flying scotsman with realistic chuffing sound look at this loco*
haha absolutely - it's the same thing! :D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Hey Sam I have a question,
What was scrap man originally? Before loving to collect the rotting bodies of a poor locomotive.
Oh! been meaning to ask - at 8:40, what is that device you're using, and do you have any recommendations for affordable brands, etc for it? I've been looking for one with a saw attachment to do some custom loco body alterations. Have an old 1970s one but it's completely dead so I need to find a new one.
It's a Draper rotary tool - the best brand is Dremel, but they're a bit more expensive! Mine is a bit more cumbersome, but it was very cheap and hasn't let me down yet! It's a wire wheel attachment!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
before you send it off, would you record it doing a full lap or two? I'm curious how bad the shake is in full operation, and you didn't run in on the actual track for long enough to see.
edit: maybe include it in the next requests video, just this engine running a full lap light engine.
You did good Sam. I salute you for your services.
I was waiting for this video to come out. And you're starting to sell your repaired locomotives now?
Thank you!! Yes select ones are being auctioned off! :D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
This for sure has a love it or list it vibe lol
Haven't Watched The Full Thing but I can tell This will be Awesome! Also I have a quick question, Which one is better? Hornby or Bachmann? I've been thinking about making a Model Railway myself but i don't know where i should get the models, Hope ya have a great day. -Fabian.
Thank you so much! It's hard to say - they both make some good and some bad models! If you had to ask me, Hornby is better overall, but that's not always true!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@@SamsTrains Alright! Thanks for your Time, again, Hope ya have a great day!
the scrap man is a horrifying amalgamation I wish to never see in my dreams again.
Hi Sam, I have a Hornby Stepney which I won on ebay earlier in the year, it has a broken cab stair and I doesn't run well, do you do membership commissions?
I have this model, but it is newer I think and tender driven which I dont think much of.
1:54 The A3 was built by LNER, not GWR
Thank god you saved it awesome video today Sam
You saved Gordon’s brother! No one shall scrap the Flying Scotsman!
haha exactly right!! :D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Hey sam what type of camera do you use and what tripod or cam stand do you use?
The loco was like "Oh hell nah i am not dieing today" then started moving again
hay sam, I want to know what point track you use for your layout (the track that adds a siding to your layout). I purchase 6 from Hornby and they make my trains bump every time they go over them and was wondering if you can tell me what track company (Peco, Bachman etc) you use. please lmk.
Get the hornby express points or some of the larger peco points, I hear they run most stuff better than the normal size turn outs
You should be very proud of yourself there sam, well done, great job 👏
Thanks so much Andrew! :D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
It is awesome how you get these engines to run again in such a short time.
Thanks so much Louis - this one was very dodgy though, can't believe it ran!! xD
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Every Single A3 Gets Sent To A Scrapyard (Including Flying Scotsman)
Alan Pegler:
Hi sam what liquid are you using to clean the commutator is it Isopropyl or brake cleaner ? my new to me secondhand scotsman needs some love
Yeah it's 99.9% IPA - it works very well! :D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
This series is like a cross between Discovery channel's _Fast N' Loud_ and Nickelodeon's _Legends of the Hidden Temple_
haha thank you! I'll take that as a compliment ;)
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
What a relief you were able to save Flying Scotsman, I was afraid he would join the other A3’s in the scrapyard!
haha yeah - it was a very near miss!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)