The last loco I rebuilt was an LGB RhB Ge 4/4 III with electric up/down pantographs and full DCC style sounds etc. It took the best part of 10 hours to get the thing dismantled and then 3 weeks of on and off work (much was postal time) to get it rebuilt. It's still not perfect, but getting there :)
Hi. I’d recommend that - for non-critical parts (like the smoke box door) - you make a slight change in the rules; you still can’t buy them, but the time limit for 3D printing them doesn’t apply. The regular rules (and time limit) will still apply to critical parts (driveline, wiper pickups, the motor, frame, couplings, and wheels/valve-gear.) 😊 This just makes sense in terms of prioritizing the repairs; why 3D print a smoke box door, when you might need the 3D printer for something critical later? You can always 3D print the extra detail parts once the loco can haul a rake of wagons or coaches around the layout without stalling, derailing, or bursting into flame (well, I HOPE it doesn’t catch fire - that would be bad!)
I love this series so much, literally everytime I see a new vid of Salvage or Scrap I get ultra excited and no matter what I wanna watch it :D It's amazing, and quite educative actually
If u use regular paper for plates, signs, (...etcetera), just put a pice of transparent adhesive tape over them before u cut it out. Its going to be a lot stiffer and easier to work with it. That's how we made all our road signs on or "city layout".
I have had a few wheel tyres come loose - where the wheel centres are metal I used 3 small dots of Loctite green retaining compound to fix the tyre in place. This leaves the rest of the tyre\centre interface to pass current if necessary. I am trialing loctite green on some plastic wheel centres .. 6 months down the track they still seem OK and no damage to the plastic so far.
Pfew, close call. We thought you would have plenty of time, but really not so it seems. Such a pity that the rush was needed. Great cracking fun to watch but this one just deserved so much better. Oh well, that's for the next owner.
I have a 4472 from 1972. I'd repair that at pretty much any cost. It's a very good runner as it is now, but the tender is basically just a coach, no pickups. the engine itself has 6 driving wheels (like the real thing would have) but only the driving wheels have pickups. Regardless, my first Flying Scotsman, it has some sentimental value.
A long time ago I had a rather weird railway dream. It began with me visiting a railway scrapyard. There was no-one about, no sound was to be heard anywhere. I walked along between two standard gauge track sidings, half expecting to get caught. No-one stopped me doing something so potentially dangerous. A black shape in the distance caught my eye, and I ventured forwards. The black shape, upon closer inspection, was a 57xx Pannier Tank Engine so small, I wondered how on earth the chassis would be wide enough to fit on to the 4ft 8 & a half inch sized track. As it was, the little steamy begged me silently to save her from the evil scrapman. So I somehow managed to make up her fire and top up her tanks with water. I sat on a tiny chair in her cab, put her in reverse and drove her along the track. I had no idea where the rusty rails would lead to, yet my steed and I kept going. We flew past main line stations, and found our way on to the Severn Valley Railway. At Kidderminster Town Station, opposite side of the island platform, Raveningham Hall was willing to give us a lump or two of coal from her tender. Another Driver took over from me. The 57xx Pannier Tank Engine was safe. This is where the dream ended. I was wondering who I ought to share the story with, and so I hope you enjoyed it. I know how much you love reading my stories.
Many years ago my dad took me and my brother to sneak around Booths scrapyard in Rotherham, where there were several rather sorry-looking Class 50 diesels seemingly awaiting their fate... thirty years on and some of them got saved and are still running today!
The Scrapman has had only one helping the two years this series has been going, you clearly have the knack of salvaging these locos... although you may have to set some tough challenges for 2024.
Hi Sam. Always great to see you fix ANY loco, but it being a Gresley A1 was an added bonus. Please could you provide some greater detail on your hard-wired electrical power fix? Where exactly did you attach each end of the wire? Thanks
Very soft spot for those grand old tender drive LNER pacifics. Looking at them with a modern eye so much looks absurd- above all, that one side of the pickups, on a locomotive with a total of eight wheels on each side, depends entirely on two small tender wheels and nothing else- would it really have been so prohibitively complicated and expensive for 1980s Hornby to make a drawbar connection with two wires, and pickup from the large loco driving wheels on *both* sides, I wonder? That said though, there's still something magnificent about watching them sail along the line, rake of teak coaches in tow, the old sensible design rear pony truck whose wheels actually stay on the track, watching the coupling rods spin as those driving wheels whirl round.
I really need to get a soldering iron. Had to fix a broken wire on Flying Scotsman today and it’s getting tedious having to heat my favourite pair of needle nose pliers to yellow just to fix that. I hope your doing well Sam!
@@Eric_Hunt194 really I’ve just been putting off to save up for a milling machine. I can make the improvised set up work, so I’ll keep doing it until the machine shop is ready and then I can get a Weller soldering station as a be all, kill all solution. Thanks for the tip though! I appreciate it.
Great salvage !! I wonder why there are tender-driven locomotives being manufactured ? There is enough space inside the loc, so it seems unnecessarily complicated. Also it just doesn't feel right. A locomotive should pull, not being pushed. And it makes a loc easier to derail in corners, it seems to me, I wonder if anyone knows the reason.
Because hornby copied the concept from continental practice as they started their tender drive range with a licensed copy of the Fleischmann drive unit. For continental locomotives using tender drive makes more sense as we tend to use the same type of tender on a variety of locomotives. For example the well known tender of the Kriegslok can also be used on the DB class 50, 38, 42 and 44. You get even more options with the 3t12 and 3t16 chassis. Another reason is that being 1:87 the boilers are narrower forcing the motor to be placed in the cab if there is no other option. Oh and we solved the issue of the tender moving before the locomotive does by putting kinematic couplers with wire guides between them. This allows close coupling and gets the wires out of sight.
@@ivovanzon164 - Thank you very much for that detailed explanation. The swapping of locs to tenders is an interesting feature. I am new to the model railroad world, so this is great information.
Nice video Sam very good camera work as usual as always I am really enjoying your lovely videos and camera work keep your lovely camera work up I am really looking forward to seeing your next video I hope you get a nice video next time also when is your next video going to be on UA-cam bye for now Philip
I have a few old and broken locomotives, HO of course. Would you be interested if I were to give them to you. I would only ask that you cover the cost of shipping to the UK
Yeah more salvage and scrap transformation for trains. Yeah I'm excited. Ur the best and talented friend . I still wish I had ur skill. Looks amazing my friend. I do like it. Keep being awesome. But yeah tender driving trains are annoying to as well. So can't wait to see the end result
I love this program because I learn how to get into the models, my only question would be if it’s possible to run these on a DCC system, or are they upgradable? ross
The last loco I rebuilt was an LGB RhB Ge 4/4 III with electric up/down pantographs and full DCC style sounds etc. It took the best part of 10 hours to get the thing dismantled and then 3 weeks of on and off work (much was postal time) to get it rebuilt. It's still not perfect, but getting there :)
Hi. I’d recommend that - for non-critical parts (like the smoke box door) - you make a slight change in the rules; you still can’t buy them, but the time limit for 3D printing them doesn’t apply. The regular rules (and time limit) will still apply to critical parts (driveline, wiper pickups, the motor, frame, couplings, and wheels/valve-gear.) 😊 This just makes sense in terms of prioritizing the repairs; why 3D print a smoke box door, when you might need the 3D printer for something critical later? You can always 3D print the extra detail parts once the loco can haul a rake of wagons or coaches around the layout without stalling, derailing, or bursting into flame (well, I HOPE it doesn’t catch fire - that would be bad!)
Impressive what you are doing in such a tight schedule. Still one of your best ideas this series !
An overall good restoration here Sam, I have 2 of these tender drive A1s from hornby one of them being 4476 Royal Lancer.
I love this series so much, literally everytime I see a new vid of Salvage or Scrap I get ultra excited and no matter what I wanna watch it :D It's amazing, and quite educative actually
If u use regular paper for plates, signs, (...etcetera), just put a pice of transparent adhesive tape over them before u cut it out. Its going to be a lot stiffer and easier to work with it.
That's how we made all our road signs on or "city layout".
BTW the coupling-rod is upside-down!
Another exciting salvage or scrap episode, I think any episode where the engine does run at the initial testing is a good sign for it to win
You are fortunate to have the knowledge and tools to make such repairs. I like to watch you work and I don’t agree with the time limit.
I have had a few wheel tyres come loose - where the wheel centres are metal I used 3 small dots of Loctite green retaining compound to fix the tyre in place. This leaves the rest of the tyre\centre interface to pass current if necessary. I am trialing loctite green on some plastic wheel centres .. 6 months down the track they still seem OK and no damage to the plastic so far.
You always amaze me with salvage or scrap sam!!! Great video!
haha thank you so much Jack! :D
I've been watching you for a while, but this was my first taste of Salvage or Scrap.
This is awesome. It adds suspense to a routine repair job.
👍👍👍👍👍
Pfew, close call. We thought you would have plenty of time, but really not so it seems. Such a pity that the rush was needed. Great cracking fun to watch but this one just deserved so much better. Oh well, that's for the next owner.
THE SCRAP MAN
hahaha!
@@SamsTrains lol
Ski-bi dibby dib yo da dub dub
Yo da dub dub
I'm a bit concerned that the scrapman will starve if you keep this run of wins going!
@@bavarianbansheeshut up
I have a 4472 from 1972. I'd repair that at pretty much any cost. It's a very good runner as it is now, but the tender is basically just a coach, no pickups. the engine itself has 6 driving wheels (like the real thing would have) but only the driving wheels have pickups.
Regardless, my first Flying Scotsman, it has some sentimental value.
A long time ago I had a rather weird railway dream. It began with me visiting a railway scrapyard. There was no-one about, no sound was to be heard anywhere. I walked along between two standard gauge track sidings, half expecting to get caught. No-one stopped me doing something so potentially dangerous. A black shape in the distance caught my eye, and I ventured forwards.
The black shape, upon closer inspection, was a 57xx Pannier Tank Engine so small, I wondered how on earth the chassis would be wide enough to fit on to the 4ft 8 & a half inch sized track. As it was, the little steamy begged me silently to save her from the evil scrapman. So I somehow managed to make up her fire and top up her tanks with water. I sat on a tiny chair in her cab, put her in reverse and drove her along the track. I had no idea where the rusty rails would lead to, yet my steed and I kept going. We flew past main line stations, and found our way on to the Severn Valley Railway. At Kidderminster Town Station, opposite side of the island platform, Raveningham Hall was willing to give us a lump or two of coal from her tender. Another Driver took over from me. The 57xx Pannier Tank Engine was safe.
This is where the dream ended. I was wondering who I ought to share the story with, and so I hope you enjoyed it. I know how much you love reading my stories.
Many years ago my dad took me and my brother to sneak around Booths scrapyard in Rotherham, where there were several rather sorry-looking Class 50 diesels seemingly awaiting their fate... thirty years on and some of them got saved and are still running today!
Only 2 more locos left Sam, I wonder how they are going to turn out. We'll just have to wait and see :)
Cheers Jasper & Willow
Hi Sam , yes I have one in the same state that needs looking at, I think I need to get it back up and running again . All the best Brian 😃
This series is sooo good! Please make another season!!!
Well I haven't watched the video yet, but there is a bid listing for this engine so I guess it was salvaged.😂
Dear me Sam; you cut that a bit fine. Great work, well done.
Cheers
Neil
The Scrapman has had only one helping the two years this series has been going, you clearly have the knack of salvaging these locos... although you may have to set some tough challenges for 2024.
This is some tv show quality material this just perfect to make a tv show or a break show
Awesome video today Sam thank goodness you got it working
Hi Sam. Always great to see you fix ANY loco, but it being a Gresley A1 was an added bonus.
Please could you provide some greater detail on your hard-wired electrical power fix? Where exactly did you attach each end of the wire? Thanks
Would like to see all the locos repaired without any drama. I can't stand the stress 😂
18:35 Not today Scrapman......Not today.
Cheers Jasper & Willow
Awesome video Sam's trains
Thanks Brian! :D
@@SamsTrains you're welcome 😊 buddy 😊
Very soft spot for those grand old tender drive LNER pacifics. Looking at them with a modern eye so much looks absurd- above all, that one side of the pickups, on a locomotive with a total of eight wheels on each side, depends entirely on two small tender wheels and nothing else- would it really have been so prohibitively complicated and expensive for 1980s Hornby to make a drawbar connection with two wires, and pickup from the large loco driving wheels on *both* sides, I wonder? That said though, there's still something magnificent about watching them sail along the line, rake of teak coaches in tow, the old sensible design rear pony truck whose wheels actually stay on the track, watching the coupling rods spin as those driving wheels whirl round.
Gordon The Express Engine is proud of you saving his sibling
it was hard but final resul is excellent,congratulations.....big like alberto 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍😊😊😊😊😊😊
YO Sam nice vid you made me start my own channel on my many model trains sadly I have no layout yet
I really need to get a soldering iron. Had to fix a broken wire on Flying Scotsman today and it’s getting tedious having to heat my favourite pair of needle nose pliers to yellow just to fix that. I hope your doing well Sam!
Lidl occasionally have some in the middle, keep checking in there and you'll probably find one before too long
@@Eric_Hunt194 really I’ve just been putting off to save up for a milling machine. I can make the improvised set up work, so I’ll keep doing it until the machine shop is ready and then I can get a Weller soldering station as a be all, kill all solution. Thanks for the tip though! I appreciate it.
Happy to see this series back
How does scrapman work? Does it actually scrap the locos? Or is it just illustrative of actual scraping?
Well done Sam
If one gets scrapped does the scrap man actually destroy it or is it just a container and you collect it afterwards
it's a container
Awesome work
Great salvage !! I wonder why there are tender-driven locomotives being manufactured ? There is enough space inside the loc, so it seems unnecessarily complicated.
Also it just doesn't feel right. A locomotive should pull, not being pushed. And it makes a loc easier to derail in corners, it seems to me, I wonder if anyone knows the reason.
Because hornby copied the concept from continental practice as they started their tender drive range with a licensed copy of the Fleischmann drive unit.
For continental locomotives using tender drive makes more sense as we tend to use the same type of tender on a variety of locomotives.
For example the well known tender of the Kriegslok can also be used on the DB class 50, 38, 42 and 44. You get even more options with the 3t12 and 3t16 chassis.
Another reason is that being 1:87 the boilers are narrower forcing the motor to be placed in the cab if there is no other option.
Oh and we solved the issue of the tender moving before the locomotive does by putting kinematic couplers with wire guides between them. This allows close coupling and gets the wires out of sight.
@@ivovanzon164 - Thank you very much for that detailed explanation. The swapping of locs to tenders is an interesting feature.
I am new to the model railroad world, so this is great information.
9:02 oh so that's how to take it apart, I was always wondering how do you remoive the motor from the temder chassis.
Cheers Jasper & Willow
Ahh my favourite series 😊
Thank you!! :D
This man needs a Netflix show lol
Love your 3d printed locomotives
Nice video Sam very good camera work as usual as always I am really enjoying your lovely videos and camera work keep your lovely camera work up I am really looking forward to seeing your next video I hope you get a nice video next time also when is your next video going to be on UA-cam bye for now Philip
Another great episode of salvage or scrap!
Thank you! :D
It's out Lady's and Gentlemen, IT'S FINALLY OUT!!!
Cheers Jasper & Willow
hahaha hope you enjoy it! :D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
I have a few old and broken locomotives, HO of course. Would you be interested if I were to give them to you. I would only ask that you cover the cost of shipping to the UK
That's very kind of you, but I'm all done with Salvage or Scrap now, really appreciate it though!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Just asking two questions:
1. Why is there a private video in the SOS playlist?
2. When is the next episode coming out?
Great work!🎉
Very good & well done Sam 🙂🚂🚂🚂
I’d say put it in a scrapyard on your layout if you have one. I think that would be quite cool
Yeah more salvage and scrap transformation for trains. Yeah I'm excited. Ur the best and talented friend . I still wish I had ur skill. Looks amazing my friend. I do like it. Keep being awesome. But yeah tender driving trains are annoying to as well. So can't wait to see the end result
tender drives are actually easy to work on, and are very easy to service, my steam fleet is tender driven and they run like a dream
@@vikingsmbwell I guess ur right it's probably my scottsman tender is having issues though. But I guess there strong pullers
@@OragamiTobichi-bi6lh get it serviced and get new traction tyres fitted,
Loved the video👍👍
Any links for the 3 d printer
Maybe someday we should get you to clean up some of my models.
I wish it was that easy to restore real locomotives.
Job's a good'un.....
Poor ol Scrappy, he's gone hungry for quite some time now,...
That poor Scrapman is going to starve
Close one Sam.
Yay new episode salvage or scrap👍😊🤩😎😁
Thanks Sam, hope you enjoy! :D
Nice job
Thank you! :D
The coupling rods are on upside down, the previous owner (or one of them) must have had thes off at some stage! A close call time wise .
You could super glue those wheels back on
Hey samstrains! Can you make a model of this canceled thomas and friends character called barry the rescue engine?
Metal tyres + superglue?
love salvage or scrap :D
Thank you so much! :D
Has there ever been any engines that have been scrapped
Yeah there was at least one.
nice as usual!
Hi Sam love your videos
why don't you count the time left for your rankings?
Finally another salvage or scrap video I love these so much great video Sam enjoy the rest of your day as well
"All my Doncaster brothers and sisters..."
I love this program because I learn how to get into the models, my only question would be if it’s possible to run these on a DCC system, or are they upgradable?
ross
As it's a Gresley it's worth it but in my view,dont crucify me, if it was GWR or Southern. I'd just scrap them .
That's so cool
Nice!
another saved from scrap!
Spoilers!!
Not gonna lie I actually was fixing my A1 about 10 mins before watching this video. (Broken gears btw)
47 minutes this time!
Another classic was restored. I like learning the insides of these models by watching these repair videos.
Fantastic Sam, these Scotsmans are very reliable. Have you seen James May's toy stories episodes on Hornby btw?
The hornby class A1 looks like gordon for thomas and friends
18:41 Sam the timer was 28 not minutes 27 and 19 seconds
I wonder if this will go for over £200
Henry Mark I
I am guessing no Christmas story again? Those were the highlight of the year, at least for me. 😭
I hope the scrap man won’t eat the working ho/oo locos or rolling stock
I was rooting for the Scrapman this time because tender pushed engines are so awful.
This week, on SALVAGE OR SCRAP, Sam has to fix a broken Hornby Gresley A1! Will it survive, or will the loco be fed to the SCRAP MAN? Let's find out!
A novel way to sell , WHY did you let them deteriorate so much?
I hope I don’t get scraped…
Salvage
Sam what do you have cooked up for Halloween?
A new model! :D
We are less than half a year away from April the first, got anything planned? 🤣
hahaha got a few ideas, nothing fixed as of yet!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Robinson Pacific? The Cumming "Super Clan"? The FP40PH? (Oh, wait a minute, that one exists!)😅
First, and also I love your videos, keep up the good work!
Congratulations
Well done!! Thanks so much for your kind words,
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Thanks :)
@@NormalJungle272 you're welcome 😊 buddy 😊
4th
Well done! :D
Second
Well done! :D
yeeeees new video😁😁😁😁😁😁😁
haha hope you like it! :D
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