As a Habesha fan of your channel, you instantly gained more of my respect for mentioning Ethiopia at 19:28. Granted, I’m Eritrean-American. But I’ll take it, & you can take a Golden Mushroom as a token of my gratitude. Also, Cairo being absent is a huge surprise considering that there was a literal pyramid in the key art for Tour.
THANK YOU for finally mentioning the "Video Game World Tour That Only Goes To White and Asian Countries and Maybe Spain" curse I've been seeing a lot recently. I swear to all that is holy if generation 10 of pokemon takes the hints they've thrown at both Indian and Brazillian regions and decides to go to Sweden or something, I will be livid.
Captain Astronaut, I know this video is partially made for laughs, but that Wonder Flower Gate concept you brought up at the end of your video, sounds like a legitimate cool idea for a next Mario Kart. And I had fun watching this video! Golden Mushroom.
The problem with doing the “sequel basically brings back the previous game, and adds more stuff to it” approach is the potential sequel escalation/content creep conundrum
It's definitely a Smash Ultimate situation Both games have so much stuff now, that it's almost gonna be impossible for whatever comes to next to not feel at least sort of inferior to some people
@@OriginalGameteerat least it’s a much less major problem for Mario Kart, because they still haven’t brought back every character and track from the series, and the selection of returning tracks usually change every game, unlike Smash, which keeps bringing back the same stages over and over again Also, while there are so many tracks in 8 Deluxe, half of them are relatively basic ports from the mobile game, so there definitely still is potential for future games
The Tour cities definitely could've been more spread out. Rio and Dubai would have been good picks. Also I doubt they'd ever have done this but a Washington D.C. course could be pretty neat.
lol at Bangkok being the only city track that isn’t associated with a wealthy country (also Africa and South America being completely screwed over… just like real life!)
@@giygas_9577honorable mentions to Manila, Philippines and Niagara Falls, Canada (yes, it’s technically also in America, but the Canadian side is way more interesting)
I really do wish South America, Africa, and other places got some kind of track, but did any even exist in Tour? Regardless the fact that the entire Southern Hemisphere and most of Asia got completely passed over sucks man lmao
The comments of “Mii is the only way I can play as a black person”, “they’re finally adding more women to the game” and “world tour only has one track based in the bottom hemisphere” really drives home just how behind even the most popular videogames are
Damn, I never thought about how there are literally no POC on the roster. White privilege I guess. That sucks. And I worry about not being inclusive enough in MY projects
Guess where the majority of people life? The Northern hemisphere that's about 87% of the worlds population. They could have added Rio or Cape Town but apart from that there's not much there.
Real talk, I generally don't mind the Tour course selection, but it would be nice for there to be more southern tracks. Honestly surprised we didn't at least get a Brazil or Egypt course, both could work real well, imagine driving along the side of a pyramid or gliding down past the statue of Christ, it'd be great. Europe is nice and all, but I can see London after a couple hour train ride and it probably wouldn't be a much worse experience than the track minus all the potential muggings and smog.
24:33 After New Super Mario Bros 2 being the third New Super Mario Bros, Mario Kart 9 as the name for the next game would be quite normal in comparison.
i fucking love how you mentioned the problem nintendo has with africa and south america in the "world tour" thingy. also fun fact: only now recently does the switch have an eshop for south american countries, the first years had no way of buying games, the later years had a shitty online "eshop" in the nintendo website where you bought game codes for only a limited selection of games, and now finally we have an eshop (but of course we don't have accommodated prices for our smaller wages and stuff because fuck us i guess)
The one thing I hope for a future Mario Kart game is that it doesn't feel as... restrictive? as 8. I dunno, but after playing other kart racers like Crash Team Racing and Racing Transformed, Mario Kart 8 just felt sluggish to me so maybe a way to make it feel faster and give us a bit more freedom in how we approach races. That was a bit vague, but I would also love to see more dynamic tracks like they introduced in the booster course but turned up to 11, like with the Panzer Dragoon course in Racing Transformed, and the Wonder Flower I think would be an amazing way to do that! either that or having tracks tell a small story would be really cool!
13:43 You can also just buy him after getting enough coins in races. They removed the gatcha elements like a year ago which is why I started playing Tour again You can no longer pay money to gamble which is a huge win in my book. However you do get a free spin of the wheel for playing enough courses so that's 🤷 But now you can buy any character, kart, or glider by saving up resources and then spending them on the specific thing you want ^^ The shop does randomly switch out which karts, characters, and gliders are in each day's shop though, so if you want something specific like the cute 8-bit Super Mario Kart Mario, you'll have to save your gems and just check if he's in the store each day.
Actually, Pauline should not have been in MK8DX at launch because Odyssey hadn’t released yet. Only Funky, Diddy, Birdo and to some extent, Petey should’ve been in the game
@@generalcrab0009 Nintendo has mostly avoided adding Donkey Kong Country characters other than Donkey Kong and Diddy Kong to Super Mario spin-offs since after 2008.
17:26 Ikr! They ported so many of these nitro courses from Tour, and then didn't freaking touch them up at all to fit with base Mario Kart 8's quality. I'm glad they actually touched up some of the later Tour ports like Wii Rainbow Road. But my gosh I wish they'd go back and touch up their earlier ports, Coconut Mall makes me sad everytime I play it cause it's just the length of the Tour version :( I'm glad they did port all this content from Tour though so it doesn't become lost media and I can finally play these courses with a controller, and as you said more Mario Kart is a net positive ^^ I just think they were rushed in the first few waves and don't have any plan to fix to go back and touch it up more :/
I'm still giong to prefer the original Mario Kart 8 DLC for the Wii U, which was yknow... good, and had courses that looked even BETTER than the base courses (Big Blue my beloved), as well as new characters. That was a DLC that actually had a plan.
I mean, the only actually new characters that weren’t variants of existing characters were non-Mario ones, and for some, only made the lack of certain missing characters sting that much more (most of them would end up in the Booster Course Pass though)
The actual courses in the original Wii U, on the other hand, were much better executed, though (even with some of the cool stuff the Booster Course Pass has that the base game doesn’t, like half-pipes, more notable shortcuts and introducing an additional type of track (one that the city tracks and PPC use) aside from lap-based and section-based ones)
What I would like the most out of a future Mario Kart is different physics. What I love about Mario Kart is that each game really feels different to play, in a really fun way (Super Circuit's track design taking a LOT of advantage from its physics, the way drifting and getting hit works in Double Dash, the differences between bikes and karts in Wii with the really fun physics and 7's fun collision system). While the Booster Course Pass helped me in appreciating 8's mechanics a lot more than before, especially because I really enjoy the average BCP track way more than the average base game track... I really want to see new possibilities arise from a new physics system. (and tbh I'd also really like to see a brand new selection of tracks rather than adding onto a previous one because a fewer amount really helps in making each track stand out and have its proper identity, even if almost every Mario Kart track is able to shine even with 95 tracks next to it)
He was cooking with that rant on the MKT course locations. Like, the locations are just objectively too god damn similar to begin with. Sonic Unleashed takes place on a fucking fictional planet and had more varied representation of real-world cities than Mario Kart Tour, as well as just making the locations it did adapt look a lot cooler. I think going the Sonic Unleashed route in general of flanderizing the cities with stylish, impossible architecture would have been a good call in general.
How are the cities “too similar”? Oh yeah Amsterdam drift is similar to Vancouver velocity apparently. Good thing you can’t avoid the cities, as petty as that sounds.
Now that Mario Kart 8 is so full of returning tracks, it would make sense that the sequel had only brand new tracks! That would be a good thing for marketing too :D
You are right about the lack of black characters in Mario Kart. The Villagers should also come with skin tone options. But the future is, as stated, kind of blurry. Ideally for the unimportant race issue, some charcters will get skin tones or costumes representing other races without breaking character (like we're not going to see Asian Mario bros). Porting a "port" is not going to happen because that is...well...stupid. A lot of 8 deluxe originally (besides a new audience) was fixing 8s flaws, like battle mode and character inclusions. But not everything was "fixed", e.g in EVERY OTHER MARIO KART BESIDES SUPER & DOUBLE DASH, holding an item behind your back REMOVED IT from your pocket/item slot. Not in this game, its Wii U counter part or tour. Or even the fact that miis must wear helmets. The characters don't even wear racing suits. And I liked in Wii & 7 when I could see Toad mii's sunglasses as I'm racing. But they shouldn't get rid of the new costumes, just add the Mii racing suit A & B back and/or make the helmet optional. The future will be drastically different, but probably not better than 8 deluxe. Wonder's and Odyssey's influence may show in the next version, and I am all here for that. People like those games' ideas way too much for Nintendo to just ignore them. Finally, R.O.B was R.O.B.B.E.D from the deserving spot in this roster. R.O.B was the start of "non-mario" characters and 8 goes above and beyond by including tracks with that idea too (Excitebike arena, Mute City, Yoshi's Island etc.) so R.O.B's omission here was unfortunate. Yes, how would bikes work? Well Baby Peach (whose legs are too short) and King Boo (who is a ghost) are in 8 deluxe, I'm sure R.O.B would have worked. However, we hope to see for the next game. For now (and many years time) let's enjoy the Mario Kart 8 deluxe that Nintendo poored so much time and energy into. Yeah I had a lot to say 😅.
I will say on the "three Tour fans comment"... The monetization is absolutely indefensible. But the core gameplay is pretty fun. Its a decent little time killer and probably one of my favorite mobile games.
Honestly I just want to see a more grander nintendo focused mario kart - still have the majority of stuff in the game be mario, but have a ton of kirby, f zero, zelda, splatoon, xenoblade, whatever stuff as well. Gives them the chance to do something a bit more drastically different mechanically and/or design-wise. It would just open the doors to something a bit more fresh than "just another mario kart" - and hell, even if it IS "just another mario kart", at least theres like a third of the roster made up of non mario characters and tracks to spice it up at least a bit. Its been a decade of mario kart 8. Now is the best time to do something massively different with the next game more than ever before.
"So if you're amazing at Mario Kart like I am..." You use the meta vehicle of Teddy Buggy, Roller, Paper Glider. I don't wanna freaking hear it coming from a tryhard.
I kinda agree with the sentiment of "I preferred DLC to 9". I will admit, I only got 8 Deluxe in mid 2018 so I haven't been stuck with it as long as most people but even if I was, I don't think I would get sick of it. This game is one of the best on the Switch and half of it wasn't made on the Switch. It's flaws were (eventually) ironed out and the already great base 8 foundation was built upon further and could lay the groundwork for ideas in 9 now.
The #1 most wanted 5 character slot came true. Funky Kong, Pauline, Petey Piranha, Diddy Kong, & Kamek came true and aged well. #5 Funky Kong #4 Pauline #3 Petey Piranha #2 Diddy Kong #1 Kamek
Can you imagine MK9 but it borrows mechanics from Forza Horizons like money-earning to buy upgrades and even new carts and you have to drive to the physical location in order to trigger an event, or maybe they have a world map like that of the Mario Tennis switch game or the Team Sonic Racing game where each of the "levels" is a race or a challenge you have to complete. Idk, I've always imagined this specifically because I don't think just bringing back the same old 32 courses + grand Prix + time trials + battle mode is going to be enough for something that's gonna release on a next-gen golden mushroom (console, although consoles are gonna cost as much as a mushroom made of gold next gen lol). Aside from adding the mechanic of anti-gravity all the way back in MK8, maybe the next "mechanic" is to make it cinematic.
"I'm sure there's a Doctor Who episode set in Rome" As the world's most pathetic Doctor Who fan, I can confirm that there absolutely is - specifically, 1965's The Romans.
i think the next mario kart could have altered courses similar to tour but instead of simply having minor changes they're super duper hard to complete. like wii rainbow road but you take the difficulty and throw it over everything (as an extra mode)
I have not purchased the dlc yet as I wanted to see where my currency is gling towards and I do not enjoy any of the new levels outside of Wii Rainbow road and Game Cube DK mountain as I have both titles. The gold mushroom is a nice power up for bagging come backs to win in the final stretch.
Love your channel, love your videos, but just gotta defend my man Mario Circuit in the Booster Pass. It's basic af, but it's designed for pure speed. It's as close to Final Destination, no items, three stock as you can get in this game. GOLDEN SHROOOOOM
You bring up a lot of good points, and while there are definitely a lot more cities that could make for interesting Tour tracks, I could've done without the racist rant. I mean, one of the venues I was considering was my home city of St. Louis, which, while being yet another American city, is also the home of Chuck Berry, and so I was hoping the track would have a swingin' rock & roll BGM.
Super Mario Kart was the best Mario Kart game until Mario Kart 8. Back then, we didn't have bullet bills or golden mushrooms or blue shells, we had Stars and we had Lightning and we liked it. Mario Kart 8 Deluxe is, thus far, simply the greatest game ever made, and it didn't get that way without paying proper tribute to the OG. You may know that the title screen plays an homage to SMK's title screen after a while. Guess what the Booster Course Pass credits music starts and ends with?
In my opinion, the way Nintendo could move on from/improve Smash Ultimate and MK8DX is to focus on quality over quantity. Both of these games have the most amount of stuff in their respective series for better and worse. While most of that is stuff is good, it does bloat the overall package and makes the idea of making a new game with even more stuff uncomfortable. New entries in these series don’t need more stuff, they need better stuff. A better roster for Smash and a better track selection for MK for example. Bigger does not always mean better.
Golden Mushroom. If we don't get 9 because those other games could be considered 9 I want the next game to be called Mario Kart X. If we do get 9 then I want the one after that to be called Mario Kart X. Because X is the Roman Numeral for 10. X would be pronounced Cross. We could have more crossover stuff but not too much. I still want it to be Mario Kart not Super Kart Bros. or Nintendo Kart. Having the 10th one be X because X is 10 but pronounced Cross because it's a crossover would line up really nicely and be really awesome and neat to see. The we can have X2 and so on from then on, maybe. Also I've heard people not liking 3DS Rosalina's Ice World that much quite a bit now. That bums me out a bit because I quite like it. It's just really nice to me. That means I was one of the few who was happy to see it come back and to be able to enjoy it again with a new coat of paint.
What I want next: #1 - F-Zero with a big budget. #2 - Diddy Kong Racing style Mario Kart with different vehicle types. Wave Race style water sections. Star Fox style flying sections. What I think we'll get: Some sort of Mario Kart + Nintendo All Stars game with way more non-Mario characters. Gameplay will be MK8 but with more franchises. Like there will be a Zelda cup with 4 zelda tracks, Metroid cup, Animal Crossing cup, Splatoon cup, etc. They might even go full Smash Bros style and get 3rd party cups. Mega Man cup. Banjo Kazooie. Final fantasy. etc etc etc. Basically prettier graphics plus way more IP.
I don't want to see all of the 96 courses in 8 deluxe return. Enticing mk8d fans to buy the new game isn't just a simple numbers game where more courses = better game. You can get people excited with the big new gimmick, fancy new graphics (yes even the base game of 8 has some dated elements. Take a moment to look at some of the textures that date back to 2014, and compare them to something like Mario Odyssey. Don't even get me started on the boring ass character animations outside of wave 6 additions), exciting new content with nitros and retros and characters, more crossover stuff, new modes, new items, game rebalancing. Just because something seems perfect doesn't mean the series should just stop growing and changing forever. Should every future game port forward the 96 courses in 8 deluxe + however many they introduce in 9 + any future entries? Just go back to making exciting new games and people will keep buying, you don't have to be the most massive entry to be a hit.
Sick Video Captain! "Golden Mushroom" I would personally like a Super Nintendo Kart next, but moving away from the Mario Kart branding seems like A no go for Nintendo now after 8DX's success. I've been playing Mario Kart 8 since launch day on the Wii U, and it's been a wild ride since then. I think the only thing they didn't add to DX, besides a few courses I wanted, would be a way to switch items back to the 1 item per Kart set up of OG MK8.
The golden mushroom absolutely sucks as a power up, it's not all that good at helping you and it also isn't unique enough to stand besides the other mario kart power ups proudly.
I think that the booster course passes look significantly better then the base game Ive always hated the art style of the base game and the booster course feels like a return to form for the series
I've modeled out a fair number of 3D assets and race tracks before and I disagree, I understand not liking the realistic approach of the base game; but they could've used the same art direction as Mario Kart Arcade GP DX which was TECHNICALLY the first HD Mario Kart game. The reason why low poly models were used was due to the technical limitations of Smartphones at the time, but when porting the models to console, they were obviously rushed. It's the same reason why so many indie games are low poly, people say it's "retro" or an "art style" but they really do it to save time because texturing and UV mapping is SUPER frustrating... But it's not impossible, Nintendo's been using 3D models since Donkey Kong Country on the SNES, so there's no excuse for graphics like that aside from rushing the product out.
@@prestigeblue but the idea that the tracks look "worse" because they are coming straight from tour goes out the window because they aren't just ported from tour as is, the graphical difference between tracks in tour and tracks in the booster pass is super apearent, it's just the style that they are taking the series and I for one think they look so much better for that
@@dimanthehedghog The reason the tracks look inherently different in 8 is because the lighting in 8 is better. Then for some tracks they added more textures to some surfaces with normal mapping to give the illusion of more detail but other tracks have very flat looking textures that look amateur.
@@prestigeblue it has nothing to do with better lighting it has everything to do with a stylistic choice to introduce realism The lighting engine is the same in the booster pass tracks but they brought the art style more in line with the rest of the series hence why I think they look much much better then the base tracks
@@dimanthehedghog @dimanthehedghog Any model that has correct normals and good texture work will look good in Mario Kart 8. The lighting engine was optimized to improve the look of everything on screen using techniques like global illumination to make nearby objects reflect light off each other, which is a technique that wasn't used in Mario Kart Tour and saying the BCP "art style" is more in line with the rest of the series is an insult to the previous games. Starting from Double Dash, the tracks were meticulously textured to give every environment a unique and varied feel. Very rarely did any 2 stages reuse textures for cliffs, barriers, buildings or even roads. The grass on GCN Mario Circuit and GCN Dino Dino Jungle are remarkably different from each other, while still adhering to the same art style. Mario Kart 8 still did this, but opted for more grounded textures instead. Which I understand can be divisive for some. Mario Kart Tour and BCP do the bare minimum when it comes to art direction. Grass, Bricks, Cliffs and Dirt are often either flat colors or unremarkable basic textures. It's less DETAILED than 8, but the problem is that it didn't replace that detail with any sort of style. I implore you to watch or play Mario Kart Arcade GP DX because its art direction, style, and lighting ARE more in line with the previous entries.
where was ds bowser castle, they couldve reworked in an antigravity section at the pipe and made it so you could drive upside down on the pipe, putting path 2 on the bottom of it.
@@skiffy8121 it’s literally correct. *Every* course in the BCP was ported directly from Tour, whether it was already in or it came at a later date. How stupid do you have to be to believe that’s wrong?
Rosalinas Ice World actually takes place on the ice planet that Rosalina & Luma visit when looking for Lumas mom in her emotional backstory.
freezeflame galaxy would be more enjoyable tbh
As a Habesha fan of your channel, you instantly gained more of my respect for mentioning Ethiopia at 19:28. Granted, I’m Eritrean-American. But I’ll take it, & you can take a Golden Mushroom as a token of my gratitude.
Also, Cairo being absent is a huge surprise considering that there was a literal pyramid in the key art for Tour.
@@clauxzaga One lap could be the Giza Necropolis, and another could be Old Cairo (the mosques and bazaars), not sure what the third should be
18:50 How has no mentioned there is no Cairo/Egypt city course even though it is the OG promotional material for MarioKart Tour and it is still there.
THANK YOU for finally mentioning the "Video Game World Tour That Only Goes To White and Asian Countries and Maybe Spain" curse I've been seeing a lot recently. I swear to all that is holy if generation 10 of pokemon takes the hints they've thrown at both Indian and Brazillian regions and decides to go to Sweden or something, I will be livid.
Why do you think that happens? Because most decision makers are japanese devs lol most don't care or even know about race
Joke’s on you, Gen 10’ll take place in Texas
It’s honestly a miracle that Thailand even got represented in the first place
Oh my god right? I’d love to play Pokémon with all of the npc’s shitting on the sidewalk 😊 India is such a lovely place!
Captain Astronaut, I know this video is partially made for laughs, but that Wonder Flower Gate concept you brought up at the end of your video, sounds like a legitimate cool idea for a next Mario Kart.
And I had fun watching this video! Golden Mushroom.
The problem with doing the “sequel basically brings back the previous game, and adds more stuff to it” approach is the potential sequel escalation/content creep conundrum
It's definitely a Smash Ultimate situation
Both games have so much stuff now, that it's almost gonna be impossible for whatever comes to next to not feel at least sort of inferior to some people
@@OriginalGameteerat least it’s a much less major problem for Mario Kart, because they still haven’t brought back every character and track from the series, and the selection of returning tracks usually change every game, unlike Smash, which keeps bringing back the same stages over and over again
Also, while there are so many tracks in 8 Deluxe, half of them are relatively basic ports from the mobile game, so there definitely still is potential for future games
The Tour cities definitely could've been more spread out. Rio and Dubai would have been good picks. Also I doubt they'd ever have done this but a Washington D.C. course could be pretty neat.
lol at Bangkok being the only city track that isn’t associated with a wealthy country (also Africa and South America being completely screwed over… just like real life!)
@@jomaq9233 Cairo, Beijing, and perhaps a city from India would also have been good picks.
@@giygas_9577honorable mentions to Manila, Philippines and Niagara Falls, Canada (yes, it’s technically also in America, but the Canadian side is way more interesting)
I really do wish South America, Africa, and other places got some kind of track, but did any even exist in Tour? Regardless the fact that the entire Southern Hemisphere and most of Asia got completely passed over sucks man lmao
The comments of “Mii is the only way I can play as a black person”, “they’re finally adding more women to the game” and “world tour only has one track based in the bottom hemisphere” really drives home just how behind even the most popular videogames are
@@MrVipasanatake a wild guess what they mean by this? You can't be this dense and be supportive lol
Damn, I never thought about how there are literally no POC on the roster. White privilege I guess.
That sucks.
And I worry about not being inclusive enough in MY projects
Good luck doing that with jp employees
@@monopolyrubix1875 Purple Inkling Boy
Guess where the majority of people life? The Northern hemisphere that's about 87% of the worlds population.
They could have added Rio or Cape Town but apart from that there's not much there.
That wasn't a mall in Madrid, it's Puerta de Atocha train station!! 😭😭😭
absolute golden mushroom of a finale to a fun series of videos
Which is ironic considering the Golden Dash Cup is pretty mid (besides Coconut Mall and maybe Paris Promenade idk)
Real talk, I generally don't mind the Tour course selection, but it would be nice for there to be more southern tracks. Honestly surprised we didn't at least get a Brazil or Egypt course, both could work real well, imagine driving along the side of a pyramid or gliding down past the statue of Christ, it'd be great. Europe is nice and all, but I can see London after a couple hour train ride and it probably wouldn't be a much worse experience than the track minus all the potential muggings and smog.
I’ve been waiting for our favorite Captain (besides Captain 3) to give his thoughts on these!
Same here, I've been waiting on this.
24:33 After New Super Mario Bros 2 being the third New Super Mario Bros, Mario Kart 9 as the name for the next game would be quite normal in comparison.
i fucking love how you mentioned the problem nintendo has with africa and south america in the "world tour" thingy.
also fun fact: only now recently does the switch have an eshop for south american countries, the first years had no way of buying games, the later years had a shitty online "eshop" in the nintendo website where you bought game codes for only a limited selection of games, and now finally we have an eshop (but of course we don't have accommodated prices for our smaller wages and stuff because fuck us i guess)
The one thing I hope for a future Mario Kart game is that it doesn't feel as... restrictive? as 8. I dunno, but after playing other kart racers like Crash Team Racing and Racing Transformed, Mario Kart 8 just felt sluggish to me so maybe a way to make it feel faster and give us a bit more freedom in how we approach races. That was a bit vague, but I would also love to see more dynamic tracks like they introduced in the booster course but turned up to 11, like with the Panzer Dragoon course in Racing Transformed, and the Wonder Flower I think would be an amazing way to do that! either that or having tracks tell a small story would be really cool!
13:43 You can also just buy him after getting enough coins in races.
They removed the gatcha elements like a year ago which is why I started playing Tour again
You can no longer pay money to gamble which is a huge win in my book. However you do get a free spin of the wheel for playing enough courses so that's 🤷
But now you can buy any character, kart, or glider by saving up resources and then spending them on the specific thing you want ^^
The shop does randomly switch out which karts, characters, and gliders are in each day's shop though, so if you want something specific like the cute 8-bit Super Mario Kart Mario, you'll have to save your gems and just check if he's in the store each day.
The decision to call it spiny cup baffles me because in the mario movie earlier this year, they called it blue shell.
That was literally the only time it’s ever been referred to in official media as the “blue shell”
8:33 How is Cloudtop Cruise related to Super Mario Galaxy in any way besides part of its music?
Actually, Pauline should not have been in MK8DX at launch because Odyssey hadn’t released yet. Only Funky, Diddy, Birdo and to some extent, Petey should’ve been in the game
Funky Kong would have made less sense to appear in base game than Petey Piranha in my opinion.
@@harrybest2041 he appeared more recently than Petey so it makes more sense for Funky than Petey to appear in the base game
@@generalcrab0009 Nintendo has mostly avoided adding Donkey Kong Country characters other than Donkey Kong and Diddy Kong to Super Mario spin-offs since after 2008.
@@harrybest2041but it is weird that they did add non-Mario characters, but continued to completely omit the additional Kongs until very recently
17:26 Ikr! They ported so many of these nitro courses from Tour, and then didn't freaking touch them up at all to fit with base Mario Kart 8's quality. I'm glad they actually touched up some of the later Tour ports like Wii Rainbow Road. But my gosh I wish they'd go back and touch up their earlier ports, Coconut Mall makes me sad everytime I play it cause it's just the length of the Tour version :(
I'm glad they did port all this content from Tour though so it doesn't become lost media and I can finally play these courses with a controller, and as you said more Mario Kart is a net positive ^^
I just think they were rushed in the first few waves and don't have any plan to fix to go back and touch it up more :/
I'm still giong to prefer the original Mario Kart 8 DLC for the Wii U, which was yknow... good, and had courses that looked even BETTER than the base courses (Big Blue my beloved), as well as new characters. That was a DLC that actually had a plan.
I mean, the only actually new characters that weren’t variants of existing characters were non-Mario ones, and for some, only made the lack of certain missing characters sting that much more (most of them would end up in the Booster Course Pass though)
The actual courses in the original Wii U, on the other hand, were much better executed, though (even with some of the cool stuff the Booster Course Pass has that the base game doesn’t, like half-pipes, more notable shortcuts and introducing an additional type of track (one that the city tracks and PPC use) aside from lap-based and section-based ones)
19:10 CLAPPING ON ONE AND THREE is a criminal offense and I'm glad you treat it as such. Hilarious insult
What I would like the most out of a future Mario Kart is different physics. What I love about Mario Kart is that each game really feels different to play, in a really fun way (Super Circuit's track design taking a LOT of advantage from its physics, the way drifting and getting hit works in Double Dash, the differences between bikes and karts in Wii with the really fun physics and 7's fun collision system).
While the Booster Course Pass helped me in appreciating 8's mechanics a lot more than before, especially because I really enjoy the average BCP track way more than the average base game track... I really want to see new possibilities arise from a new physics system.
(and tbh I'd also really like to see a brand new selection of tracks rather than adding onto a previous one because a fewer amount really helps in making each track stand out and have its proper identity, even if almost every Mario Kart track is able to shine even with 95 tracks next to it)
He was cooking with that rant on the MKT course locations.
Like, the locations are just objectively too god damn similar to begin with. Sonic Unleashed takes place on a fucking fictional planet and had more varied representation of real-world cities than Mario Kart Tour, as well as just making the locations it did adapt look a lot cooler.
I think going the Sonic Unleashed route in general of flanderizing the cities with stylish, impossible architecture would have been a good call in general.
How are the cities “too similar”?
Oh yeah Amsterdam drift is similar to Vancouver velocity apparently.
Good thing you can’t avoid the cities, as petty as that sounds.
@@WritingCountingOriginal I don't respond to passive aggressiveness.
@@Maloolz Oh really? Ya sure??
The coconut mall in Madrid is Atocha train station.
Now that Mario Kart 8 is so full of returning tracks, it would make sense that the sequel had only brand new tracks! That would be a good thing for marketing too :D
Once again watching and commenting despite not owning or playing this game. I am sure you are correct about everything. Golden Mushroom.
You are right about the lack of black characters in Mario Kart. The Villagers should also come with skin tone options. But the future is, as stated, kind of blurry.
Ideally for the unimportant race issue, some charcters will get skin tones or costumes representing other races without breaking character (like we're not going to see Asian Mario bros). Porting a "port" is not going to happen because that is...well...stupid. A lot of 8 deluxe originally (besides a new audience) was fixing 8s flaws, like battle mode and character inclusions. But not everything was "fixed", e.g in EVERY OTHER MARIO KART BESIDES SUPER & DOUBLE DASH, holding an item behind your back REMOVED IT from your pocket/item slot. Not in this game, its Wii U counter part or tour. Or even the fact that miis must wear helmets. The characters don't even wear racing suits. And I liked in Wii & 7 when I could see Toad mii's sunglasses as I'm racing. But they shouldn't get rid of the new costumes, just add the Mii racing suit A & B back and/or make the helmet optional. The future will be drastically different, but probably not better than 8 deluxe. Wonder's and Odyssey's influence may show in the next version, and I am all here for that. People like those games' ideas way too much for Nintendo to just ignore them.
Finally, R.O.B was R.O.B.B.E.D from the deserving spot in this roster. R.O.B was the start of "non-mario" characters and 8 goes above and beyond by including tracks with that idea too (Excitebike arena, Mute City, Yoshi's Island etc.) so R.O.B's omission here was unfortunate. Yes, how would bikes work? Well Baby Peach (whose legs are too short) and King Boo (who is a ghost) are in 8 deluxe, I'm sure R.O.B would have worked. However, we hope to see for the next game. For now (and many years time) let's enjoy the Mario Kart 8 deluxe that Nintendo poored so much time and energy into.
Yeah I had a lot to say 😅.
Forgot to mention I would really like PacMan and Pac Mountain from Mario Kart Arcade GP 1/2
“Babe wake up, new Capt. Astro video just dropped.”
Golden mushroom I guess, thanks for giving me something to drive engagement with lol
6:15 That is Atocha Train Station
Still don't understand why they chose Peachette of all tour characters. Nabbit or King Bomb-omb would've been cool.
Because Peachette had been in Tour since the very beginning so if anyone deserved to get in, she did
peachatte is cute in game though, look at her go
Probably because of a potential biker outfit and being one of the tutorial characters, and nothing else
I will say on the "three Tour fans comment"... The monetization is absolutely indefensible. But the core gameplay is pretty fun. Its a decent little time killer and probably one of my favorite mobile games.
Honestly I just want to see a more grander nintendo focused mario kart - still have the majority of stuff in the game be mario, but have a ton of kirby, f zero, zelda, splatoon, xenoblade, whatever stuff as well. Gives them the chance to do something a bit more drastically different mechanically and/or design-wise. It would just open the doors to something a bit more fresh than "just another mario kart" - and hell, even if it IS "just another mario kart", at least theres like a third of the roster made up of non mario characters and tracks to spice it up at least a bit.
Its been a decade of mario kart 8. Now is the best time to do something massively different with the next game more than ever before.
mk8 may have the best roster, but its still missing paratroopa, why do they keep doing him dirty
9:45 That's me! I'm a winter fan 😄
I hope someday they add some RPG characters to a Kart game, like why not Fawful or Vivian or Stuffwell? instead of just running out of ideas lol
No South America or Africa city was INSANE
His delivery of ?!EUROPE!? is gold(en mushroom)
YESSSS i’ve been waiting to hear your thoughts, i’m so happy thank you
great vid! hopefully nintendo also realises that black people play their games too and gives us some cool characters/skins too haha
"So if you're amazing at Mario Kart like I am..."
You use the meta vehicle of Teddy Buggy, Roller, Paper Glider. I don't wanna freaking hear it coming from a tryhard.
I kinda agree with the sentiment of "I preferred DLC to 9". I will admit, I only got 8 Deluxe in mid 2018 so I haven't been stuck with it as long as most people but even if I was, I don't think I would get sick of it. This game is one of the best on the Switch and half of it wasn't made on the Switch. It's flaws were (eventually) ironed out and the already great base 8 foundation was built upon further and could lay the groundwork for ideas in 9 now.
Great video, ascended into excellent video territory with the Matsubara outro.
I would love to use a Golden Mushroom while racing in Rio de Janeiro... but alas...
lol the fact that both Maple Treeway and Vancouver Velocity were yanked from the Acorn Cup sure makes it feel a tad awkward now
This video was amazing like anytime I watch your videos its like getting a golden mushroop in 4th place
This video was wayyy funnier than I thought it would be
The #1 most wanted 5 character slot came true. Funky Kong, Pauline, Petey Piranha, Diddy Kong, & Kamek came true and aged well.
#5 Funky Kong
#4 Pauline
#3 Petey Piranha
#2 Diddy Kong
#1 Kamek
Can you imagine MK9 but it borrows mechanics from Forza Horizons like money-earning to buy upgrades and even new carts and you have to drive to the physical location in order to trigger an event, or maybe they have a world map like that of the Mario Tennis switch game or the Team Sonic Racing game where each of the "levels" is a race or a challenge you have to complete. Idk, I've always imagined this specifically because I don't think just bringing back the same old 32 courses + grand Prix + time trials + battle mode is going to be enough for something that's gonna release on a next-gen golden mushroom (console, although consoles are gonna cost as much as a mushroom made of gold next gen lol). Aside from adding the mechanic of anti-gravity all the way back in MK8, maybe the next "mechanic" is to make it cinematic.
"I'm sure there's a Doctor Who episode set in Rome"
As the world's most pathetic Doctor Who fan, I can confirm that there absolutely is - specifically, 1965's The Romans.
hi, im italiano and I never saw that dog around these parts.
The end of a era 😢 amazing work 🎉
i think the next mario kart could have altered courses similar to tour but instead of simply having minor changes they're super duper hard to complete. like wii rainbow road but you take the difficulty and throw it over everything (as an extra mode)
I have not purchased the dlc yet as I wanted to see where my currency is gling towards and I do not enjoy any of the new levels outside of Wii Rainbow road and Game Cube DK mountain as I have both titles. The gold mushroom is a nice power up for bagging come backs to win in the final stretch.
26:27 Yoooo, that'd be so cool!
I went back and counted the amount of waves in the intro and it was actually wave 6 god fucking dammit
Collecting coins makes getting hit extra annoying
My dream Mario Kart will have 8 player couch co-op, maybe have 50 people racing at the same time online
Golden mush room, also loved the marathon bit mate
Captain Astronaut knows what gooning is 👀🤣
19:26 as a nigerian, the way you said lagos hurt me inside.
Love your channel, love your videos, but just gotta defend my man Mario Circuit in the Booster Pass. It's basic af, but it's designed for pure speed. It's as close to Final Destination, no items, three stock as you can get in this game. GOLDEN SHROOOOOM
hope they add the golden mushroom as a playable character to the next one idk anymore
You bring up a lot of good points, and while there are definitely a lot more cities that could make for interesting Tour tracks, I could've done without the racist rant. I mean, one of the venues I was considering was my home city of St. Louis, which, while being yet another American city, is also the home of Chuck Berry, and so I was hoping the track would have a swingin' rock & roll BGM.
Golden Mushroom
Also I just want to say that your videos are very well thought out and funny and thanks for making them ^^
20:59 ☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️
Lmao!!!
Super Mario Kart was the best Mario Kart game until Mario Kart 8. Back then, we didn't have bullet bills or golden mushrooms or blue shells, we had Stars and we had Lightning and we liked it. Mario Kart 8 Deluxe is, thus far, simply the greatest game ever made, and it didn't get that way without paying proper tribute to the OG. You may know that the title screen plays an homage to SMK's title screen after a while. Guess what the Booster Course Pass credits music starts and ends with?
Mayonnaise spreading and watermelon slurping are one in the same lmao
There's a Doctor Who set in Rome! It is called The... Romans.... and I swear it's a really good episode!!
Golden mushroom gang. ✊
Very informative video Mr Spaceman.
I think they'll likely make a basic MK thing. 32 courses. Although if they do more, better.
As a veteran of wii rainbow Road i can say that made my a Motion control god
18:50 - 19:20 lmao
But fr no Mexico and Africa?! 🥲
In my opinion, the way Nintendo could move on from/improve Smash Ultimate and MK8DX is to focus on quality over quantity. Both of these games have the most amount of stuff in their respective series for better and worse. While most of that is stuff is good, it does bloat the overall package and makes the idea of making a new game with even more stuff uncomfortable. New entries in these series don’t need more stuff, they need better stuff. A better roster for Smash and a better track selection for MK for example. Bigger does not always mean better.
golden mushroom ❤
Golden Mushroom. If we don't get 9 because those other games could be considered 9 I want the next game to be called Mario Kart X. If we do get 9 then I want the one after that to be called Mario Kart X. Because X is the Roman Numeral for 10. X would be pronounced Cross. We could have more crossover stuff but not too much. I still want it to be Mario Kart not Super Kart Bros. or Nintendo Kart. Having the 10th one be X because X is 10 but pronounced Cross because it's a crossover would line up really nicely and be really awesome and neat to see. The we can have X2 and so on from then on, maybe. Also I've heard people not liking 3DS Rosalina's Ice World that much quite a bit now. That bums me out a bit because I quite like it. It's just really nice to me. That means I was one of the few who was happy to see it come back and to be able to enjoy it again with a new coat of paint.
26:43 don’t forget the battle pass
Mario Kart 9 about to consume another Decade
Best of 2023.
What I want next: #1 - F-Zero with a big budget. #2 - Diddy Kong Racing style Mario Kart with different vehicle types. Wave Race style water sections. Star Fox style flying sections. What I think we'll get: Some sort of Mario Kart + Nintendo All Stars game with way more non-Mario characters. Gameplay will be MK8 but with more franchises. Like there will be a Zelda cup with 4 zelda tracks, Metroid cup, Animal Crossing cup, Splatoon cup, etc. They might even go full Smash Bros style and get 3rd party cups. Mega Man cup. Banjo Kazooie. Final fantasy. etc etc etc. Basically prettier graphics plus way more IP.
Golden Mushroom!
Golden Mushroom!!!!!!!
golden muschroom
Golden Mushroom gang
Hey they should add kirby in the next game
Golden Mushroom
Golden mushroom
Bowser's Castle is fire 🔥
do not pick dubai :skull emoji:
I don't want to see all of the 96 courses in 8 deluxe return. Enticing mk8d fans to buy the new game isn't just a simple numbers game where more courses = better game. You can get people excited with the big new gimmick, fancy new graphics (yes even the base game of 8 has some dated elements. Take a moment to look at some of the textures that date back to 2014, and compare them to something like Mario Odyssey. Don't even get me started on the boring ass character animations outside of wave 6 additions), exciting new content with nitros and retros and characters, more crossover stuff, new modes, new items, game rebalancing. Just because something seems perfect doesn't mean the series should just stop growing and changing forever. Should every future game port forward the 96 courses in 8 deluxe + however many they introduce in 9 + any future entries? Just go back to making exciting new games and people will keep buying, you don't have to be the most massive entry to be a hit.
Sick Video Captain! "Golden Mushroom" I would personally like a Super Nintendo Kart next, but moving away from the Mario Kart branding seems like A no go for Nintendo now after 8DX's success. I've been playing Mario Kart 8 since launch day on the Wii U, and it's been a wild ride since then. I think the only thing they didn't add to DX, besides a few courses I wanted, would be a way to switch items back to the 1 item per Kart set up of OG MK8.
As one of Rosalina's strongest soldiers, I simple have to disagree with your placement. May Mommy Rosalina's love bless you.
You ruined the pretty rainbow road road. thanks
No, Nintendo ruined it
British one piece? 💀 im glad i never watched dr who now
Red mushroom :(
The golden mushroom absolutely sucks as a power up, it's not all that good at helping you and it also isn't unique enough to stand besides the other mario kart power ups proudly.
gOldEnmUshRoOm baby
I think that the booster course passes look significantly better then the base game
Ive always hated the art style of the base game and the booster course feels like a return to form for the series
I've modeled out a fair number of 3D assets and race tracks before and I disagree, I understand not liking the realistic approach of the base game; but they could've used the same art direction as Mario Kart Arcade GP DX which was TECHNICALLY the first HD Mario Kart game. The reason why low poly models were used was due to the technical limitations of Smartphones at the time, but when porting the models to console, they were obviously rushed. It's the same reason why so many indie games are low poly, people say it's "retro" or an "art style" but they really do it to save time because texturing and UV mapping is SUPER frustrating... But it's not impossible, Nintendo's been using 3D models since Donkey Kong Country on the SNES, so there's no excuse for graphics like that aside from rushing the product out.
@@prestigeblue but the idea that the tracks look "worse" because they are coming straight from tour goes out the window because they aren't just ported from tour as is, the graphical difference between tracks in tour and tracks in the booster pass is super apearent, it's just the style that they are taking the series and I for one think they look so much better for that
@@dimanthehedghog The reason the tracks look inherently different in 8 is because the lighting in 8 is better. Then for some tracks they added more textures to some surfaces with normal mapping to give the illusion of more detail but other tracks have very flat looking textures that look amateur.
@@prestigeblue it has nothing to do with better lighting it has everything to do with a stylistic choice to introduce realism
The lighting engine is the same in the booster pass tracks but they brought the art style more in line with the rest of the series hence why I think they look much much better then the base tracks
@@dimanthehedghog @dimanthehedghog Any model that has correct normals and good texture work will look good in Mario Kart 8. The lighting engine was optimized to improve the look of everything on screen using techniques like global illumination to make nearby objects reflect light off each other, which is a technique that wasn't used in Mario Kart Tour and saying the BCP "art style" is more in line with the rest of the series is an insult to the previous games.
Starting from Double Dash, the tracks were meticulously textured to give every environment a unique and varied feel. Very rarely did any 2 stages reuse textures for cliffs, barriers, buildings or even roads. The grass on GCN Mario Circuit and GCN Dino Dino Jungle are remarkably different from each other, while still adhering to the same art style.
Mario Kart 8 still did this, but opted for more grounded textures instead. Which I understand can be divisive for some.
Mario Kart Tour and BCP do the bare minimum when it comes to art direction. Grass, Bricks, Cliffs and Dirt are often either flat colors or unremarkable basic textures. It's less DETAILED than 8, but the problem is that it didn't replace that detail with any sort of style.
I implore you to watch or play Mario Kart Arcade GP DX because its art direction, style, and lighting ARE more in line with the previous entries.
where was ds bowser castle, they couldve reworked in an antigravity section at the pipe and made it so you could drive upside down on the pipe, putting path 2 on the bottom of it.
It wasn’t in Tour
@@generalcrab0009 ok, and? wii got stuff,snes got stuff, 3ds got stuff, ds got ignored.
@@skiffy8121 too bad. If a course isn’t in Tour it doesn’t have a chance at getting in
@@generalcrab0009 .....thats literally factually wrong.
@@skiffy8121 it’s literally correct. *Every* course in the BCP was ported directly from Tour, whether it was already in or it came at a later date. How stupid do you have to be to believe that’s wrong?