I am disappointed with your Cerberus +1 ranking. I have kept up a 1.5 kd w/ it and got 10 flawlesses with it. I can out duel SMGs and Sidearms with it while aiming at the head. Cerberus +1 deserves better...
Solid content as always but the only thing I'll say is Bad Juju is a lightweight frame not rapid fire. Honestly a slight zoom buff and switching it to a rapid fire you might see the thing alot more in pvp. Also I'm still mad when they did the full auto toggle and gave all the other exotics that had full auto baked in new perks Bad Juju got NOTHING. This is one of the OG exotics and it's built to be a workhorse but people simply don't remember it exists because most people don't care for the optimal ttk of lightweights and every other lightweight has someone over Bad Juju. I don't even know what they'd have to give it to bring it up perk wise.
4:34 You forgot the biggest reason to use 4th horseman. When you kill someone with 4th horseman, their's a 90% chance that they'll go, "WHO USES FOURTH HORSEMAN (Checks your guardian)...WHY DO YOU HAVE 5 THOUSAND PVP KILLS WITH 4TH HORSEMAN WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU!!??" The answer is yes I did use the wrong there's earlier and you're still mad about it. Use 4th horseman more
So glad someone noticed how good cryosthesia 77k is now. Not just in PVP but PvE too. It got buffs to cause the stasis shot can be held indefinitely, the stasis shot now hits in a large bubble, slowing guardians if in the bubble or straight freezing on direct hit. This gives it utility to use it on groups as you can freeze the one guy and give big slowdown to everyone around him also. Paired up with duskfield and you just froze an entire group in seconds. Also you don't lose your entire magazine after shooting your stasis shot, so you can still shoot them with the sidearm even after being frozen. You can pair this with the stasis fragment that increases damage on frozen targets and now you shred them too.
It's so much better after it got buffed. I used it nonstop the season it came out in my stasis build. It can freeze immune targets in pve too, like the praetorians in vault of glass. Incredibly fun gun and I'm glad people are coming around on it
Just to let you know Nomad, that headshot damage number for Wish-Ender was incorrect. It does 160 damage. It’s 129 damage for the entrance and 31 damage for the exit to total 160.
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Bit of a correction on wavesplitter, you don’t have to pick up an orb, then reload for the perk. Picking up an orb activates the perk and automatically reloads it
Hello Ascendant Nomad, chronic Ostio Striga Crucible enjoyer here. Something else to note about the gun: Necrotic Grips is transformative for the weapon, it does a number of things that make it a menace that's only going to be more menacing with Strand in Lightfall. It bumps up the AE by thirty just for slapping the gloves on which means that even if you shoot at the general direction body from the air often you'll find the shots tracking to the head and getting a precision kill. It makes it so the poison explosions chain together off one another which can be extremely useful for dealing with bunched enemies and wells, and it also combos with Toxic Overload so that if someone dies from said chained poison explosions or the poison from your melee, it will overfill your magazine to around fifty rounds of ammunition which makes it absolutely monsterous in the next firefight you engage in. Something that might be worth trying out if you haven't already.
Something I feel is worth mentioning in regards to Sweet Business: It's fully spun-up optimal TTK is 0.66s, but it's least-optimal TTK (bodyshot only) is 0.8s. It's disturbingly fast considering the only requirement is a little extra brrt and a thoroughly-surprised target.
Very entertaining and informative video! I'm not even much of a crucible player, but your presentation and editing kept me interested through the whole list. I have some new things to try next time I jump into sixes or IB. Cheers!
100% agree with Cryothesia. I pulled it out of my vault some towards the end of the Season with my Shadebinder and it felt downright unfair with that kit with the amount of freezes and overall lethality. It surprised the heck out of me in a very good way and I plan to use it a lot more in Lightfall.
Small correction on Symmetry: Revolution 3-taps at x2 and 2-taps at x7. x2 is I think 68 per direct hit. x3 is 103 per direct hit. Might be mistaken on the exact damage, but it definitely 3-taps on x2 and 2-taps on x7, and the beauty of it is that you don't have to use the win condition immediately. I know it doesn't 1-tap with x20 (which you need the catalyst to reach; x15 is the default cap) by itself, but I wonder if you can damage buff it to 1-tap with radiant or empowering rift or do you need something like well/bubble.
@@nitro5202 Depends on the resilience. I forget the resil threshold for 6x to 2-tap, but 7x will 2-tap all resils unless they have overshield or a regen source like healing rift or restoration.
I love Le Monarque because the draw is so snappy, it just clicks into place and feels so... intuitive to use. Also it was 3rd exotic and my first weapon that I got to 1000 kills, so I have a soft spot for the thing.
Definitely should have explained the perks on Crimson. The health restore and COMPLETE mag refill on precision final blows are absouloutely lethal and completely clutch if you're having to go in 1v2 or 1v3
oh yeah wave splitter got somehow got a straight indirect buff in lightfall, armor mod 4.0 increased the amount of orbs generating in pvp now so I think wavesplitter should be bumped from okay to good.
My kind of newbie ass saw the only exotic that I love using with my solar hunter build (Skyburners Oath) in the bad. Made me start using my calus minitool instead with incandescent. Thank you very much hahaha.
Excellent video. Just wanted to add something to what you said about malfeasance though. Malfeasance has the highest base AE in the game at 63, which makes it feel super good in air, even if the frame and perk aren't the best.
Surprised to see Eriana's so low, I used to run a Lucky Pants hot swapping build with like a Dire Promise or some other kinetic. It was pretty fun but wouldn't have held up in higher end content, and this might have been over two years ago so no idea how it would hold up now.
I’ll have you know that Sweet Business + Actium actually DID help me go flawless It’s got a very high potential. The skill floor is just high because its demanded play style is drastically different than most weapons in D2.
@@Breakingthebane Which, in my experience, most people don't. They just sorta... Run into it. Which confuses me. Whenever I hear it, I make sure to get distance and aim where I hear it with my Vig Wing.
Sweet business is hilariously cracked. Range is near maxed out, no flinch. Actium for titans no Brainer. For warlock I use chromatic fire For hunters I use knucklehead radar. I only have 1000 kills in pvp with mine but this one would have more if it would of tracked kills from d2 launch. Sweet business is Sweet.
You were certainly correct about the Fightion Lion fans to be going crazy. Been my favourite since I first picked it up. Learning how to bank shots and time the explosion was a great learning curve.
It's fun imo but still absolute garbage. Literally just feels like I'm trolling my team by using it. Slow reload & 1 round that doesn't insta even with a point blank headshot is pretty lame. Very small blast radius too.
@Zeibentaul you can reload it while the grenade is still flying out if you know how to manual reload at the right time. It's use in support/switch shotting is the true strength.
Hey Nomad? This video whips, the fact that the music gets more intense and rock and roll-y as the teir list climbs makes it very fun, and the clips are great too. Excellent Job
OOOOOOOH CRYO ON TOP MY BABYYYYY Highly recommend running stasis Hunter with this so you can shatterdive immediately after freezing, making anyone want to throw their controller out the window
There is one reason to use Eriana's Vow: if you love Lucky Pants on Solar Hunter. Lucky Pants' buff to a readied Kinetic or element-matched-to-subclass hand cannon's AE and accuracy is great, but it goes away if you switch weapons. If you use Eriana's Vow on Solar, it also counts with Lucky Pants, so you can actually run double hand cannon. Eriana's Vow will ready very fast and be a beefy shot to cleanup someone low or eliminate an even slightly damaged enemy. And the buff sticks around when you switch back and forth between your Kinetic hand cannon and EV. It will eventually go away and you'll be "Out of Luck" for 10 seconds, but still. Actually not bad for sixes.
I really enjoyed Astral in this video. I kinda pop onto their socials on occasion to see what kinda crazy stuff the Glaive Skunk™ can pull off, and I'm glad to learn from this video that, as a bow enjoyer, Ticcu's is almost worth giving a try. :D
Feels very good having your favorite gun on top of the list… Cryosthesia is an absolutely hilarious gun once you get used to it, it opens so many possibilities
I really appreciate your video. It can be difficult to imagine how weapons work before actually getting them yourself, and seeing them being used before choosing one to invest in is great. Thank you for putting this together! also i love my graviton lance and no one will ever take that from me, even if it sucks in pvp :)
@@Daytimeprophet3 yeah it only has 60 aim assist at base, but I only mentioned it cause he mentioned poor overall base stats in the video, when it's really only the aim assist that is lacking imo.
@AscendantNomad imma use it for solar 3.0 on titan since the fragments got a buff. I need to figure out what's the best exotic to pair tho. Imma use anteaus first
@@brawler5760 It was nerfed way back when, it used to give a bigger damage bonus. Same thing happened with swashbuckler and Monte Carlo (i.e. Markov Chain).
Nomad, that ramp up to the Elite band gave me goosebumps. Safe to say, this is much, much better than ANY Apple product promotions, ever. Well done and best of luck!
I freaking love these videos you make. The editing is amazing, and you make the weapons look so easy to use. Of which makes me want to use every weapon on here lol. As once a mediocre player in PvP, your videos has helped me become a decently average player that has helped me be at least **comfortable** in PvP (even with all the anoying things that are in PvP). Thank you for you work in these videos. They're amazing.
A lot of UA-camr have done the same video but yours is better, more detailed, serious and fun even if it last 40min I like it, worth a subscribe Another video for all exotic armor would be cool
Thank you for putting Cryo in there.. Putting in the work for that weapon in the crucible made me fall in love and just wanna get better. PVE or PVP I love that gun.
As a Symmetry enjoyer, its placement is spot on. Oh and yes, it *IS* the sexiest weapon on this list, hands down. Still feel Bungie needs to remove the auto-fire capability and give it much more range and a little more damage in return.
It was in the most recent iron banner I started using cryo for the first time since the season it was released, and I single handily had one of my best gaming sessions I’ve ever had. Got several 20/30 kill games and even 2 40+ kill games, hell I even got a we ran out of medals.( was using it with a Diamond lance, one eyed mask stasis build, I felt unstoppable)
The electric slide warlock build + dead messenger is pretty good. While its damage isn't super op, getting a hit with an aoe can sometimes line you up for a bunch of aoe kill or give you an advantage before ending a gunfight.
Love this tier list. It makes a ton of sense compared to all the others. Not only can you digest it easier the explanations make perfect sense. Bravo!!!!
Osteo also has the advantage of mental warfare, seeing like 20 bright green, glowing death missiles coming at me just makes me panic and want to get the hell out of there.
One of the largest pvp player bases was when eyasluna and longbow dropped but were rare. IMO the destiny community has always been materially motivated and one of the larger issues with PvP is that there is no chase outside of trials
Tip for my fellow Fighting Lion Mains. It pairs very well with Osmiomancy gloves (Warlocks get 2 coldsnap grenades) because it can one shot via shatter. Makes dealing with shotgun apes almost trivial. And because Osmiomancy refunds grenade energy on hit you can just run double bomber mods on your class item and spam rifts and grenades. I have gotten a rather large amount of hate-mail because of this.
Thank you Nomad. You are the only one to ever really put cryo in its own light. It's my favorite exotic always and forever. If you are facing shotgun ape put on that thing and a slug and let the kills rack in.
I was happy with the place of Bad juju. Was worried it might have been in the bad category lol. Still my favourite, and I can be devastating with it. Match with a good auto or smg.
Note for malfeasance, it is really funny for super denial and I wish you mentioned it has a 20 round mag and procs based on proximity. For instance I’ve had the effect proc on 3 shots when reasonably close to enemies while it’s five when farther. I think it’s based more on damage for proccing than just shots, as with damage falloff triggering it’s five shots but pre damage falloff it’s 3. This is a really weird gun if you couldn’t tell but my personal favorite.
If you're getting 3 shots to set it off, someone else may be running with it. Malf's exotic trait works with ANY slugs from the gun, doesn't have to be yours.
Got some fun lil' armor recommendations: 1, Peacekeepers leg armor for the huckleberry for even less of a need to reload, plus the instant draw speed and ADS, not to mention the movement buff while wielding SMGs, as well as the airborne effectiveness buff. 2, Actium war rig with the sweet business for the ability to fire it for two minutes straight. great fun for cosplaying as an anti-aircraft turret.
Okay ngl one exotic in I can already tell this video should’ve been labeled as a PvP exotic tier list. Arbalest may not be good in PvP anymore, but it’s still phenomenal in PvE.
Sweet business is definitely being slept on, it has to be used with a very specific build though. When combined with icefall mantles and whisper of chains these two mediocre exotics become oppressive. The amount of times I’ve taken rockets to the chest, sniper headshots, full shotgun melee combos, and just to blast them with one of the highest dps in the game. It lets you rip through barricades and bubbles especially when anti barrier auto is in the game
Ruinous Effigy holds a special place in my heart for the time I landed in a PvP match with MTashed back in season of arrivals, and proceeded to dunk on him
Here's a good crafting recipe for Revision Zero if you want to use it actively in pvp: Fire mode: heavy burst fire Barrel: chambered compensator Magazine: ricochet rounds Perk: Elemental capacitor (use void very important) Stock: hand-laid stock Catalyst: pressurized refit This version of Revision Zero basically gives it 100 range and 100 stability. Have fun with it!
I was really hoping that you would “rank” the Wardcliff Coil, as it is probably one of the most insane, and stupid weapons out there, and is also probably my favorite exotic, too.
Had this in my watch later for weeks, glad I finally watched it. Really concise info but I wish it was updated to cover post Lightfall stuff! Thank you!
There’s a solar build I made that makes cryo an absolute beast. Use the freeze shot, throw a lightweight knife to get the kill, use the damage buff from the knife to proc it again, rinse repeat. Truly one of my favorite pvp builds of all time
The glaives got reworked, give them a try. Edge of concurrence is fucking nuts in the right hands the other 2 handle slower so you have to play back a bit. I think you'd really like it if you gave it a shot
as a striga main, i'd like to thank you for acknowledging the potential of a gun that can kill post mortem and while you're behind cover, it's not the best SMG (that's tarrabah) or the best 600 (antiope is still king), but its all around quality of being weird and unusual makes people not expect it, and therefore be surprised by it, which i have found has led me to multiple matches where i'm just destroying an entire lobby
Sure, its hard to use Izzy's exotic perk, but even without the perk its a nice feeling sniper with a great sight picture. More importantly, its many ornaments all allow for it to be the perfect weapon to complete a fashion set, as it will be holstered on your back for most the match.
Malfeasance feels justified and I'm glad that it's where it is. I love it because it feels more forgiving against cautious enemies and while not as versatile vs supers being able to deal with them with a primary period feels worth having on hand
I saw the thumbnail and I was like "You better have a very good reason for saying Hierarchy of Needs is bad" and then I saw this was a PvP tierlist and I was like "oh okay yeah" probably mention PvP in the title!!!!! but otherwise good video
Now may be 5 days late, but as a titan main, I like pairing it with the titan exotic ice fall mantle. Being able to tank up and get those kills is something that is purely orgasmic, but most of all, cryosynthesia 77k is a complete monster in a stasis warlocks hand reason why is that shattering kill will spawn a seeker causing whoever is around them weak for the kill. Great video, and most of all, cryosynthesia 77k really is a slept on weapon.
Hey there, over 1k kills on divinity here - my biggest issue with the thing is chaining kills. There’s like an intrinsic cooldown on the bubble after a kill; somewhere around a second or so? So IMO, might need a little practice before picking it up. However, still it’s an excellent trace (was better prior to the nerf) recommend pairing it up with a harmony kinetic to help chain those kills.
3:07 There is a third reason to use erianas vow in crucible. This one is a crazy reason that I think alot of people have truly forgotten about in videogames not just destiny. Having fun. I use erianas vow with another hand cannon with lucky pants and have my hunter dressed up like cad bane. Honestly though its a pretty fun build. If my goofy ass can make it work, then some of the sweatier crucible players can make it better.
Could you rank these for Gambit/PvE? I generally suck at PvP and Gambit is very enjoyable for me since it's more of a competitive PvE with a dash of occasionally invading the other side to reek havoc and scare the other team lol
when i got the sweet business drop on ps4 i was really excited since i always wanted the gun. it acually feels and does quite good in pve even if other weapons have more damage the steew business feels more fun to use against groups of enemies
Old video but I'll leave this comment here in respect to my beloved Ticuu: I pretty much find that this weapon is mostly great when hip firing to apply the debuff and with a decent group of folks and if you know where your team is at and the enemy team is at. Don't go for the full kill, get those trackers on them, if one enemy dies any enemy near them insta dies too from the explosion and that counts towards your kill score. This is basically a support weapon and works even better if you are good at aiming bows fully drawn (I'm still practicing). I made a whole room of people explode just from applying one tracker. It forces the enemy between a rock and a hard place because if they split up it's easy pickins for the whole team, if they group up again it's easy Pickins for me if they are distracted. Also you do not need to get a kill with the bow to make people explode, they will explode no matter who or what kills them.
I quite like this whole video making thing, might do more of it.
I am disappointed with your Cerberus +1 ranking. I have kept up a 1.5 kd w/ it and got 10 flawlesses with it. I can out duel SMGs and Sidearms with it while aiming at the head. Cerberus +1 deserves better...
Btw this is in 2 seasons
Solid content as always but the only thing I'll say is Bad Juju is a lightweight frame not rapid fire. Honestly a slight zoom buff and switching it to a rapid fire you might see the thing alot more in pvp. Also I'm still mad when they did the full auto toggle and gave all the other exotics that had full auto baked in new perks Bad Juju got NOTHING. This is one of the OG exotics and it's built to be a workhorse but people simply don't remember it exists because most people don't care for the optimal ttk of lightweights and every other lightweight has someone over Bad Juju. I don't even know what they'd have to give it to bring it up perk wise.
I use Eriana's like a gundam
@@Cerberus1141 someone can have a 2+ KD with Queens breaker but it's still ass
4:34
You forgot the biggest reason to use 4th horseman.
When you kill someone with 4th horseman, their's a 90% chance that they'll go, "WHO USES FOURTH HORSEMAN (Checks your guardian)...WHY DO YOU HAVE 5 THOUSAND PVP KILLS WITH 4TH HORSEMAN WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU!!??"
The answer is yes I did use the wrong there's earlier and you're still mad about it.
Use 4th horseman more
You memey bastard I love it
everytime i see a bubble im tempted to buy it..
Full auto shotgun goes brrrr
Funny shotgun
i did it on "TimelyCupOfTea
So glad someone noticed how good cryosthesia 77k is now. Not just in PVP but PvE too. It got buffs to cause the stasis shot can be held indefinitely, the stasis shot now hits in a large bubble, slowing guardians if in the bubble or straight freezing on direct hit. This gives it utility to use it on groups as you can freeze the one guy and give big slowdown to everyone around him also. Paired up with duskfield and you just froze an entire group in seconds. Also you don't lose your entire magazine after shooting your stasis shot, so you can still shoot them with the sidearm even after being frozen. You can pair this with the stasis fragment that increases damage on frozen targets and now you shred them too.
It's so much better after it got buffed. I used it nonstop the season it came out in my stasis build. It can freeze immune targets in pve too, like the praetorians in vault of glass. Incredibly fun gun and I'm glad people are coming around on it
Absolutely agree. I've been maining it for awhile now and it hasn't gotten old. Works well in most game types. Love it
Just to let you know Nomad, that headshot damage number for Wish-Ender was incorrect. It does 160 damage. It’s 129 damage for the entrance and 31 damage for the exit to total 160.
Ah thanks, will make sure it's correct moving forward 👍
I was gonna comment just that
Does that mean it one taps with a damage boost?
@@Woahjusttakeiteasyman69 Only with Weapons of Light from a Bubble. Radiant and High Energy Fire aren’t enough.
@@Deprece in that case I'll just use monarch
For the 3 of you who play Gambit, Vigilance Wing is absolutely incredible there. It melts invaders, and does really good DPS on the boss as well
Cap u guys should use rat king
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As a TDT viewer. I noticed Logistics Officer's clips as soon as I saw the crystals. Nice pull. That man is insane.
It's amazing how powerful the Traveler's chosen is, considering it looks like a dinky pocket pistol
Short Barrel Desert Eagle say what
overwatch mercy's glock
This is definitely the tier list of all time
Bit of a correction on wavesplitter, you don’t have to pick up an orb, then reload for the perk. Picking up an orb activates the perk and automatically reloads it
And we're back at the end of another year.
Hello Ascendant Nomad, chronic Ostio Striga Crucible enjoyer here. Something else to note about the gun: Necrotic Grips is transformative for the weapon, it does a number of things that make it a menace that's only going to be more menacing with Strand in Lightfall. It bumps up the AE by thirty just for slapping the gloves on which means that even if you shoot at the general direction body from the air often you'll find the shots tracking to the head and getting a precision kill. It makes it so the poison explosions chain together off one another which can be extremely useful for dealing with bunched enemies and wells, and it also combos with Toxic Overload so that if someone dies from said chained poison explosions or the poison from your melee, it will overfill your magazine to around fifty rounds of ammunition which makes it absolutely monsterous in the next firefight you engage in.
Something that might be worth trying out if you haven't already.
A note on trinity ghoul: It can activate cascade point with a single arrow, so a cascade point lodbrok or cold front pairs very well with it.
Whats cascade point?
@@L10N. Getting a kill or getting multiple precision hits with a different weapon substantially boosts fire rate.
@@L10N.say you’re using a 360 rpm auto rifle, if you proc cascade point it’ll go to a 450 rpm
@@gengarclefairy3475 its faster than a 450, thats the fun part
No way say sike! I have to try that I have an army of lodbrocks whit all kind of perks for this reason hahah (target lock is still my favorite tho)
Something I feel is worth mentioning in regards to Sweet Business: It's fully spun-up optimal TTK is 0.66s, but it's least-optimal TTK (bodyshot only) is 0.8s.
It's disturbingly fast considering the only requirement is a little extra brrt and a thoroughly-surprised target.
Very entertaining and informative video! I'm not even much of a crucible player, but your presentation and editing kept me interested through the whole list. I have some new things to try next time I jump into sixes or IB. Cheers!
100% agree with Cryothesia. I pulled it out of my vault some towards the end of the Season with my Shadebinder and it felt downright unfair with that kit with the amount of freezes and overall lethality. It surprised the heck out of me in a very good way and I plan to use it a lot more in Lightfall.
Need ideas? I'm your guy. Best exotic in the game
Small correction on Symmetry: Revolution 3-taps at x2 and 2-taps at x7. x2 is I think 68 per direct hit. x3 is 103 per direct hit. Might be mistaken on the exact damage, but it definitely 3-taps on x2 and 2-taps on x7, and the beauty of it is that you don't have to use the win condition immediately.
I know it doesn't 1-tap with x20 (which you need the catalyst to reach; x15 is the default cap) by itself, but I wonder if you can damage buff it to 1-tap with radiant or empowering rift or do you need something like well/bubble.
Its been a really long time since i used the gun but i thought it 2 tapped at 6 revolution but i might be thinking with buffs
@@nitro5202 Depends on the resilience. I forget the resil threshold for 6x to 2-tap, but 7x will 2-tap all resils unless they have overshield or a regen source like healing rift or restoration.
Dude is a damn neuron psychics scientist 😰
Even if it could 1 tap at x20 with radiant, i dont think its the most worth it (prob fun tho)
it’s the best gun for killing invaders in gambit for sure
I love Le Monarque because the draw is so snappy, it just clicks into place and feels so... intuitive to use.
Also it was 3rd exotic and my first weapon that I got to 1000 kills, so I have a soft spot for the thing.
I’ve been a huge Sturm and drang with tricksleeves lover for a long time the most underrated combo in the game.
Definitely should have explained the perks on Crimson. The health restore and COMPLETE mag refill on precision final blows are absouloutely lethal and completely clutch if you're having to go in 1v2 or 1v3
I NEVER leave the tower without it.
10:58
Picking up the orb automatically reloads the weapon. If you have ammo it automatically gets put into the magazine.
oh yeah wave splitter got somehow got a straight indirect buff in lightfall, armor mod 4.0 increased the amount of orbs generating in pvp now so I think wavesplitter should be bumped from okay to good.
My kind of newbie ass saw the only exotic that I love using with my solar hunter build (Skyburners Oath) in the bad. Made me start using my calus minitool instead with incandescent. Thank you very much hahaha.
Very nice, quite impressive Mr. Nomad. Now let's see the exotic armor ranking
Let’s see Paul Allen’s exotic ranking
Excellent video. Just wanted to add something to what you said about malfeasance though. Malfeasance has the highest base AE in the game at 63, which makes it feel super good in air, even if the frame and perk aren't the best.
Whisper would like to disagree
skyburners definitely has some words for you both
Surprised to see Eriana's so low, I used to run a Lucky Pants hot swapping build with like a Dire Promise or some other kinetic. It was pretty fun but wouldn't have held up in higher end content, and this might have been over two years ago so no idea how it would hold up now.
I’ll have you know that Sweet Business + Actium actually DID help me go flawless
It’s got a very high potential. The skill floor is just high because its demanded play style is drastically different than most weapons in D2.
He's in Hunter 90% of the clips up to sweet, (came to the comments to mention the 'same' (no flawless though))
the skill floors pretty low actually, it's mostly about whether your opponents react to it correctly
@@Breakingthebane Which, in my experience, most people don't. They just sorta... Run into it. Which confuses me. Whenever I hear it, I make sure to get distance and aim where I hear it with my Vig Wing.
Sweet business is hilariously cracked.
Range is near maxed out, no flinch.
Actium for titans no Brainer.
For warlock I use chromatic fire
For hunters I use knucklehead radar.
I only have 1000 kills in pvp with mine but this one would have more if it would of tracked kills from d2 launch.
Sweet business is Sweet.
@@Breakingthebane i think they meant skill ceiling
You were certainly correct about the Fightion Lion fans to be going crazy. Been my favourite since I first picked it up. Learning how to bank shots and time the explosion was a great learning curve.
Fighting lion is one of the most fun and rewarding guns once you learn how to use it so I agree with you
It's fun imo but still absolute garbage. Literally just feels like I'm trolling my team by using it. Slow reload & 1 round that doesn't insta even with a point blank headshot is pretty lame. Very small blast radius too.
@Zeibentaul you can reload it while the grenade is still flying out if you know how to manual reload at the right time. It's use in support/switch shotting is the true strength.
Hey Nomad? This video whips, the fact that the music gets more intense and rock and roll-y as the teir list climbs makes it very fun, and the clips are great too. Excellent Job
OOOOOOOH CRYO ON TOP MY BABYYYYY Highly recommend running stasis Hunter with this so you can shatterdive immediately after freezing, making anyone want to throw their controller out the window
There is one reason to use Eriana's Vow: if you love Lucky Pants on Solar Hunter. Lucky Pants' buff to a readied Kinetic or element-matched-to-subclass hand cannon's AE and accuracy is great, but it goes away if you switch weapons. If you use Eriana's Vow on Solar, it also counts with Lucky Pants, so you can actually run double hand cannon. Eriana's Vow will ready very fast and be a beefy shot to cleanup someone low or eliminate an even slightly damaged enemy. And the buff sticks around when you switch back and forth between your Kinetic hand cannon and EV. It will eventually go away and you'll be "Out of Luck" for 10 seconds, but still. Actually not bad for sixes.
I really enjoyed Astral in this video. I kinda pop onto their socials on occasion to see what kinda crazy stuff the Glaive Skunk™ can pull off, and I'm glad to learn from this video that, as a bow enjoyer, Ticcu's is almost worth giving a try. :D
It's the best bow out there. Don't believe that tier list, its homing arrows and the explosions will clean the battlefield in a few seconds
Feels very good having your favorite gun on top of the list… Cryosthesia is an absolutely hilarious gun once you get used to it, it opens so many possibilities
It's amazing. It's even more amazing that people think it sucks and feels bad, so when the noobs can't use it, it's not going to be nerfed lmao
Man is on a roll with the content lately. You love to see it
I really appreciate your video. It can be difficult to imagine how weapons work before actually getting them yourself, and seeing them being used before choosing one to invest in is great. Thank you for putting this together!
also i love my graviton lance and no one will ever take that from me, even if it sucks in pvp :)
Nomad, did you use sunshot with the catalyst? Cause it boosts the range and stability quite substantially to be on par with most top legendary 140s.
I'm sure he did but tbh it doesn't feel anywhere near as sticky as the top 140 HCs
@@Daytimeprophet3 yeah it only has 60 aim assist at base, but I only mentioned it cause he mentioned poor overall base stats in the video, when it's really only the aim assist that is lacking imo.
@@evanotto7078 that's the trade off
I did, it still felt pretty bad to me. But just cause I found it to be one way doesn't mean that you should stop using it if you enjoy it.
@AscendantNomad imma use it for solar 3.0 on titan since the fragments got a buff. I need to figure out what's the best exotic to pair tho. Imma use anteaus first
Huckleberry also got a buff last season with rampage spec now being built into the perk. It's so underrated.
It does? I would have half expect it not to, since it still has old school rampage.
@@Welverin Old school Rampage?
@@brawler5760 It was nerfed way back when, it used to give a bigger damage bonus. Same thing happened with swashbuckler and Monte Carlo (i.e. Markov Chain).
Nomad, that ramp up to the Elite band gave me goosebumps. Safe to say, this is much, much better than ANY Apple product promotions, ever. Well done and best of luck!
22:19 Ascendant plays with Logistics officer? The "watch this snipe" Cloudstrike legend
I freaking love these videos you make. The editing is amazing, and you make the weapons look so easy to use. Of which makes me want to use every weapon on here lol. As once a mediocre player in PvP, your videos has helped me become a decently average player that has helped me be at least **comfortable** in PvP (even with all the anoying things that are in PvP). Thank you for you work in these videos. They're amazing.
proud to see mah boi the forerunner up in the elite section. boy deserved some love
A lot of UA-camr have done the same video but yours is better, more detailed, serious and fun even if it last 40min I like it, worth a subscribe
Another video for all exotic armor would be cool
Gravonton lance aged well
Coming back to it Graviton lance is now a meta pulse. Come up story of the century
I love how LolgisticsOfficer is the immediate first clip for Cloudstrike
The dude has become synonymous with the weapon at this point.
Those video series are the best. Can't imagine the work to make those videos, but this are by far the most efficient weapons review out there.
GG AN
Thank you for putting Cryo in there.. Putting in the work for that weapon in the crucible made me fall in love and just wanna get better. PVE or PVP I love that gun.
34 + 39 = 74?
“This is big brain time.”
Genuinely one of the funniest but fantastically in-depth videos I’ve seen so far in the destiny community, thank you for the wonderful content
As a Symmetry enjoyer, its placement is spot on. Oh and yes, it *IS* the sexiest weapon on this list, hands down.
Still feel Bungie needs to remove the auto-fire capability and give it much more range and a little more damage in return.
I swear he got the damage wrong though. It 2 taps in the projectile mode at 7 stacks
@@matthewbridgewater9235 yeah
It was in the most recent iron banner I started using cryo for the first time since the season it was released, and I single handily had one of my best gaming sessions I’ve ever had. Got several 20/30 kill games and even 2 40+ kill games, hell I even got a we ran out of medals.( was using it with a Diamond lance, one eyed mask stasis build, I felt unstoppable)
I would like to say that Trinity Ghoul can activate Cascade Point when landing 2/3 of the arrows. Which is really really good
Makes me glad I grabbed one of those Cold Fronts with Cascade Point... Tarrabah at home.
@@ShaoShaoMienshao Cold Front Cascade is nice, but being able to proc Cascade on Lodbrok is nuts
Shhhh!
The electric slide warlock build + dead messenger is pretty good. While its damage isn't super op, getting a hit with an aoe can sometimes line you up for a bunch of aoe kill or give you an advantage before ending a gunfight.
Love this tier list. It makes a ton of sense compared to all the others. Not only can you digest it easier the explanations make perfect sense. Bravo!!!!
Osteo also has the advantage of mental warfare, seeing like 20 bright green, glowing death missiles coming at me just makes me panic and want to get the hell out of there.
As a Polaris Lance main, I am very happy to see it's in the Great category!
There's so much potential for someone to do a pve version of this considering it's way more popular
For anyone curious, Grav Lance got a major buff recently. Also, I think the proccing was bugged beforehand?
If forerunner isn’t S….
As one of the 17 Eriana's Vow user it's a very rewarding weapon when I hit with it
Divinity being elite is the most based take ive heard in a long time.
A Travel Danielle shout out and a Futurama reference? This is the best tier list ever!
One of the largest pvp player bases was when eyasluna and longbow dropped but were rare. IMO the destiny community has always been materially motivated and one of the larger issues with PvP is that there is no chase outside of trials
Tip for my fellow Fighting Lion Mains. It pairs very well with Osmiomancy gloves (Warlocks get 2 coldsnap grenades) because it can one shot via shatter. Makes dealing with shotgun apes almost trivial. And because Osmiomancy refunds grenade energy on hit you can just run double bomber mods on your class item and spam rifts and grenades. I have gotten a rather large amount of hate-mail because of this.
I'll have to give it a try, personally just tried it with rain of fire for the reload on Icarus dash and really enjoyed that.
Thank you Nomad. You are the only one to ever really put cryo in its own light. It's my favorite exotic always and forever. If you are facing shotgun ape put on that thing and a slug and let the kills rack in.
love how daniels can find someones tick and exploit it to the extreme for the whole video.
How did I know Lolgistics was gonna be the man with the Cloudstrike
I was happy with the place of Bad juju. Was worried it might have been in the bad category lol.
Still my favourite, and I can be devastating with it. Match with a good auto or smg.
Note for malfeasance, it is really funny for super denial and I wish you mentioned it has a 20 round mag and procs based on proximity. For instance I’ve had the effect proc on 3 shots when reasonably close to enemies while it’s five when farther. I think it’s based more on damage for proccing than just shots, as with damage falloff triggering it’s five shots but pre damage falloff it’s 3. This is a really weird gun if you couldn’t tell but my personal favorite.
If you're getting 3 shots to set it off, someone else may be running with it. Malf's exotic trait works with ANY slugs from the gun, doesn't have to be yours.
So glad you respect the power of travelers and cryothesia they are monsters in the hands of a main or master combo players, great video :]
Got some fun lil' armor recommendations:
1, Peacekeepers leg armor for the huckleberry for even less of a need to reload, plus the instant draw speed and ADS, not to mention the movement buff while wielding SMGs, as well as the airborne effectiveness buff.
2, Actium war rig with the sweet business for the ability to fire it for two minutes straight. great fun for cosplaying as an anti-aircraft turret.
I have to say, the music at the beginning and end of elite category is absolutely banging
Those cyrothesia sniper shots were so unbelievably satisfying to watch omg
When everyone and their mother was using the No Time To Explain I used to destroy them with the Outbreak Perfected, it simply had a higher fire rate
You should have specified the list was for PvP cause many guns with deem "bad" are great for PvE such as Arbalest or Dead Messenger
I agree with most except for Jade Rabbits placement, that is criminal
Okay ngl one exotic in I can already tell this video should’ve been labeled as a PvP exotic tier list. Arbalest may not be good in PvP anymore, but it’s still phenomenal in PvE.
Sweet business is definitely being slept on, it has to be used with a very specific build though. When combined with icefall mantles and whisper of chains these two mediocre exotics become oppressive. The amount of times I’ve taken rockets to the chest, sniper headshots, full shotgun melee combos, and just to blast them with one of the highest dps in the game. It lets you rip through barricades and bubbles especially when anti barrier auto is in the game
Ruinous Effigy holds a special place in my heart for the time I landed in a PvP match with MTashed back in season of arrivals, and proceeded to dunk on him
Here's a good crafting recipe for Revision Zero if you want to use it actively in pvp:
Fire mode: heavy burst fire
Barrel: chambered compensator
Magazine: ricochet rounds
Perk: Elemental capacitor (use void very important)
Stock: hand-laid stock
Catalyst: pressurized refit
This version of Revision Zero basically gives it 100 range and 100 stability. Have fun with it!
I was really hoping that you would “rank” the Wardcliff Coil, as it is probably one of the most insane, and stupid weapons out there, and is also probably my favorite exotic, too.
Had this in my watch later for weeks, glad I finally watched it. Really concise info but I wish it was updated to cover post Lightfall stuff! Thank you!
There’s a solar build I made that makes cryo an absolute beast. Use the freeze shot, throw a lightweight knife to get the kill, use the damage buff from the knife to proc it again, rinse repeat. Truly one of my favorite pvp builds of all time
The glaives got reworked, give them a try. Edge of concurrence is fucking nuts in the right hands the other 2 handle slower so you have to play back a bit. I think you'd really like it if you gave it a shot
The damage alone with gravaton lance makes it a melt machine in crucible, especially in control.
as a striga main, i'd like to thank you for acknowledging the potential of a gun that can kill post mortem and while you're behind cover, it's not the best SMG (that's tarrabah) or the best 600 (antiope is still king), but its all around quality of being weird and unusual makes people not expect it, and therefore be surprised by it, which i have found has led me to multiple matches where i'm just destroying an entire lobby
Sure, its hard to use Izzy's exotic perk, but even without the perk its a nice feeling sniper with a great sight picture. More importantly, its many ornaments all allow for it to be the perfect weapon to complete a fashion set, as it will be holstered on your back for most the match.
I’ve been using Cerberus for quite awhile now and it’s not bad.. (I think) I’ve been doing quite well with it and been winning a lot with it.
Malfeasance feels justified and I'm glad that it's where it is.
I love it because it feels more forgiving against cautious enemies and while not as versatile vs supers being able to deal with them with a primary period feels worth having on hand
i haven’t pvpd since before witch queen this video makes me want to make so many builds again
Ayy more Cryothesia love. Been maining it for ages now, incredibly slept on.
I saw the thumbnail and I was like "You better have a very good reason for saying Hierarchy of Needs is bad" and then I saw this was a PvP tierlist and I was like "oh okay yeah"
probably mention PvP in the title!!!!! but otherwise good video
Now may be 5 days late, but as a titan main, I like pairing it with the titan exotic ice fall mantle. Being able to tank up and get those kills is something that is purely orgasmic, but most of all, cryosynthesia 77k is a complete monster in a stasis warlocks hand reason why is that shattering kill will spawn a seeker causing whoever is around them weak for the kill. Great video, and most of all, cryosynthesia 77k really is a slept on weapon.
Hey there, over 1k kills on divinity here - my biggest issue with the thing is chaining kills. There’s like an intrinsic cooldown on the bubble after a kill; somewhere around a second or so? So IMO, might need a little practice before picking it up. However, still it’s an excellent trace (was better prior to the nerf) recommend pairing it up with a harmony kinetic to help chain those kills.
3:07 There is a third reason to use erianas vow in crucible. This one is a crazy reason that I think alot of people have truly forgotten about in videogames not just destiny. Having fun. I use erianas vow with another hand cannon with lucky pants and have my hunter dressed up like cad bane. Honestly though its a pretty fun build. If my goofy ass can make it work, then some of the sweatier crucible players can make it better.
Could you rank these for Gambit/PvE?
I generally suck at PvP and Gambit is very enjoyable for me since it's more of a competitive PvE with a dash of occasionally invading the other side to reek havoc and scare the other team lol
when i got the sweet business drop on ps4 i was really excited since i always wanted the gun. it acually feels and does quite good in pve even if other weapons have more damage the steew business feels more fun to use against groups of enemies
I’ve used cryo since the day it came out and it’s now my favorite exotic of all time it’s so much fun to use
23k in witch queen with it. I wrote it off like many others, because chaperone existed, but yeah.... Best exotic in the game
Old video but I'll leave this comment here in respect to my beloved Ticuu: I pretty much find that this weapon is mostly great when hip firing to apply the debuff and with a decent group of folks and if you know where your team is at and the enemy team is at.
Don't go for the full kill, get those trackers on them, if one enemy dies any enemy near them insta dies too from the explosion and that counts towards your kill score.
This is basically a support weapon and works even better if you are good at aiming bows fully drawn (I'm still practicing).
I made a whole room of people explode just from applying one tracker.
It forces the enemy between a rock and a hard place because if they split up it's easy pickins for the whole team, if they group up again it's easy Pickins for me if they are distracted.
Also you do not need to get a kill with the bow to make people explode, they will explode no matter who or what kills them.
I love the way you roasted the exotic glaves. At least with lightfall we have one worth using.
I remember when prometheus lens got added, still the most fun I ever had in crucible, basically turned the whole thing into instagib
I’m a low tier player and Lumina is the only weapon I’ve gotten a team wipe with in Trials. Imma contest your placement of it on this list!
I'm so glad people are finally coming around to cryosthesia. I used it nonstop the season it came out and it was so fun