I like the design for a two pole 4 season. Looks very well thought out. Have to hand it to Nortent, they are not slow to evolve. Will be interested to see how it handles rougher weather and shifting winds.
I tend to go for two person tents for the xtra room, so I'm interested to see the LY 2 . But, this has some pluses. Roomy , everything well considered for a light carry and quick pitch. I like the very deep tub floor and two roomy vestibules which mean the sleeping space can be free of extraneous gear. Poled closer like that with heaps of tie downs suggest that it should perform if well pitched. Thanks Dave.
Unfortunately it's not big enough for the dog. The reason I say this is for the following. I have a few tents, one of which is the Hilleberg Unna. The shape of inside of the Unna is big enough for me on a full-size mat and my 20kg Border Collie. But in the wind and the rain, the door design is useless trying to deal with wet clothes and a wet dog. And where I live you can't depend on the wind maintaing direction, so you might pitch it with the door sheltered, only to have the wind switch right around and have the wind blowing rain into the now exposed door. I also have a Staika, and the large vestibules on either side of the tent and the large inner mean that wind and rain and wet clothes and a wet dog are totally manageable. However the Staika takes up a lot of ground space compared to the Unna. I next looked at the 2024 Vern 1, because the door design and vestibule offered better options wrt wind and rain when you have a dog. And indeed this is a plus of the Vern 1 over the Unna. However the shape of the inner on the Vern 1 is a let-down compared to the Unna. When you have a full-size mat and a wet dog, the arrangement of the inner in the Vern 1 just isn't up to the task. And that brings us to your video here with the Ly-1. There's even less inner floor space in the Ly-1 compared to the Vern 1 (and way less than the Unna). If it was just me on my own and I didn't have a dog, then I'd choose either the Vern-1 or the Ly-1. But with the dog, that changes the dynamics. Of course depending on the situation, you can dispense with the inner on all the tents. I regularly use both the Unna and the Vern-1 without the inner. If I had the option of all 3 tents (for me & dog)(without the inner) then I might choose the Ly-1, and then the Vern-1. On the other hand, if I lived in a region where it doesn't rain much, and there's not much wind, then for me and the dog, I'd pick the Unna (with the inner).
Hi and thanks for the detailed comment. I agree, for the space , the inner could be taking up more of it. this is despite me not using it yet. i have some thoughts and may well iterate those on my first camp in the Ly 1. I too really like the vern 1 and it may well be better for me and my slightly more compact dog!
Cheers Dave great review. How much does the ground sheet weigh? I think the double vestibular is a great idea not just for storing gear or cooking etc. But they would be good to face into a strong wind negateing any contact with the inner. 😊
Hi Dave, must say i really like the Nortent Vern 1. But i already have the Soulo RL & Abisko Lite 2 tents do i need anymore? Also have the 10mm poles for the Soulo. But when you watch these reviews or set-ups it does get you thinking😂. Dont think it will be as strong as the Soulo but another alternative in poor weather.
I think you may enjoy the extra space of the vern 1. But for something different to your current quiver, definitely consider the Ly1. I am in it right now. The space is awesome. All good fun considering these new tents, Brian. Thanks for commenting.
Quite a tent for 1 person 😮 Doesn't compare at all to my Marmot Tungsten 1 person tent 😂 . That tent would be great for me in Canada for my winter camping , where I need lots of space for my gear . I wonder if its able to hold lots of snow 🤔 because we do have good snow storms here .Thanks for the first look , looking forward to see those tents in action
@@Fellmandave1 three days. My friend is walking Scotland and is loosing her sight. I want to join her for a leg. So I am looking for a kit list. There is so much choice it can incapacitate you. I obviously want to be comfy but not lag the kitchen sink with me.
You are trying very hard there Dave, but you aren't selling it to me! The Ly2 seems pretty 'in-proportion' for 2 people + child or dog, but I'm definitely not convinced by the need for 2 huge vestibules for a 1 person - and even poor Honey looked pretty miffed at the thought of being squeezed in beside your feet.
I love the two big opening doors and vestibules.. so it just goes to show, we all have our own wants and needs.. one tent could be perfect for one man and not the perfect tent for another.
A Scoutmaster that calls a GROUNDSHEET a *Footprint* ? It's like Fender calling a vibrato arm a ''tremolo'' ... A ''footprint'' is : 1. A print of a shoe/boot made in soft earth. 2. An area covered by the base of an object at rest. A 'groundsheet' is a waterproof SHEET of robust material placed on the GROUND and used as the floor of a pitched tent - a 'fitted groundsheet' is the same thing, only permanently sewn into the tent itself. Never in all my years of Scouting, military expeds, orienteering, hiking, camping have I ever heard anyone call a groundsheet a 'footprint'; other than perhaps in specifications when describing the area a tent covers when fully pitched.
@@Deebz270 A footprint goes under the fitted groundsheet. It has been an accepted term for decades, not just for small tents but for family tents as well. Just because you haven't heard the term doesn't mean it is incorrect.
Thanks for the video. I like the tent but disappointed that the ground sheet doesn’t clip in so can pitch all in one. If it’s a wet day it’s going to be wet through before I even start on getting the tent put up. My vern 1 and 2 are all in one pitch which saves time and keeps things all dry. Can you see any way that this could be remedied as if I want to roll it back to cook on the floor may also be an issue. Cheers
Hi Marc, you could definitely pre attch it to the tent. i will look into this and demionstrate it on my first camp in the Ly1. its a good point and thanks fior bringing it up.
Should be able to get the weight down to 2.5kg fairly easily. You only need half that number of pegs they've given you and no need for at least four of the guy lines.
Not convinced,TBH. Thats alot of weight and footprint for a very small sleeping area. Id rather they widened it from 80cm to 120cm and dropped the second vestibule.
@@Fellmandave1 Yeah, I get that. It's a different use case in the Karakoram, where it's crucial for your tent to be visible and unmistakable for a boulder or dirt pile. I think that is a reason why Samaya uses those colors. There's been some disapproval of their white tents among mountaineers for that very reason. They have to weigh the disadvantage of the camouflage vs the weight advantage of an all dyneema tent in that case.
I like the design for a two pole 4 season. Looks very well thought out. Have to hand it to Nortent, they are not slow to evolve. Will be interested to see how it handles rougher weather and shifting winds.
@12:53 I'm 6ft3 😅 I need the perfect tent for living outdoors for a while, I was sure this would be it but maybe I won't fit it.
Andy and I are both 6'1". Ly 2 would be better for you.
Is there a choice of a mesh door on this tent for extra ventilation?
Yes. Double doored mesh and solid. Please see other videos
I tend to go for two person tents for the xtra room, so I'm interested to see the LY 2 . But, this has some pluses. Roomy , everything well considered for a light carry and quick pitch. I like the very deep tub floor and two roomy vestibules which mean the sleeping space can be free of extraneous gear. Poled closer like that with heaps of tie downs suggest that it should perform if well pitched. Thanks Dave.
Well, in the winter you have to heat up all that space by yourself. This way it'll be warmer.
We shall see Perry, but in the meantime you better get both!
@@Fellmandave1 : I shall think upon your advice !
Unfortunately it's not big enough for the dog. The reason I say this is for the following. I have a few tents, one of which is the Hilleberg Unna. The shape of inside of the Unna is big enough for me on a full-size mat and my 20kg Border Collie. But in the wind and the rain, the door design is useless trying to deal with wet clothes and a wet dog. And where I live you can't depend on the wind maintaing direction, so you might pitch it with the door sheltered, only to have the wind switch right around and have the wind blowing rain into the now exposed door. I also have a Staika, and the large vestibules on either side of the tent and the large inner mean that wind and rain and wet clothes and a wet dog are totally manageable. However the Staika takes up a lot of ground space compared to the Unna. I next looked at the 2024 Vern 1, because the door design and vestibule offered better options wrt wind and rain when you have a dog. And indeed this is a plus of the Vern 1 over the Unna. However the shape of the inner on the Vern 1 is a let-down compared to the Unna. When you have a full-size mat and a wet dog, the arrangement of the inner in the Vern 1 just isn't up to the task. And that brings us to your video here with the Ly-1. There's even less inner floor space in the Ly-1 compared to the Vern 1 (and way less than the Unna). If it was just me on my own and I didn't have a dog, then I'd choose either the Vern-1 or the Ly-1. But with the dog, that changes the dynamics. Of course depending on the situation, you can dispense with the inner on all the tents. I regularly use both the Unna and the Vern-1 without the inner. If I had the option of all 3 tents (for me & dog)(without the inner) then I might choose the Ly-1, and then the Vern-1. On the other hand, if I lived in a region where it doesn't rain much, and there's not much wind, then for me and the dog, I'd pick the Unna (with the inner).
Hi and thanks for the detailed comment. I agree, for the space , the inner could be taking up more of it. this is despite me not using it yet. i have some thoughts and may well iterate those on my first camp in the Ly 1. I too really like the vern 1 and it may well be better for me and my slightly more compact dog!
@@Fellmandave1 I look forward to any future videos with you and the doggie to see how it performs.
Be interested to see how it does on uneven ground if it would upset the geometry of the setup.
Mmm, we'll see. Notsomething I had considered.
Cheers Dave great review. How much does the ground sheet weigh? I think the double vestibular is a great idea not just for storing gear or cooking etc. But they would be good to face into a strong wind negateing any contact with the inner. 😊
494g Marty, just weighed it 'specially for you.
Hi Dave, must say i really like the Nortent Vern 1. But i already have the Soulo RL & Abisko Lite 2 tents do i need anymore? Also have the 10mm poles for the Soulo. But when you watch these reviews or set-ups it does get you thinking😂. Dont think it will be as strong as the Soulo but another alternative in poor weather.
I think you may enjoy the extra space of the vern 1. But for something different to your current quiver, definitely consider the Ly1. I am in it right now. The space is awesome. All good fun considering these new tents, Brian. Thanks for commenting.
Quite a tent for 1 person 😮 Doesn't compare at all to my Marmot Tungsten 1 person tent 😂 . That tent would be great for me in Canada for my winter camping , where I need lots of space for my gear . I wonder if its able to hold lots of snow 🤔 because we do have good snow storms here .Thanks for the first look , looking forward to see those tents in action
Canada in the winter! That would be fantastic.
What is your favourite tent for thru walking and bad wet weather?
How many days? First that comes to mind is a 2 man, the Nortent vern 2, mk 1.
@@Fellmandave1 three days. My friend is walking Scotland and is loosing her sight. I want to join her for a leg. So I am looking for a kit list. There is so much choice it can incapacitate you. I obviously want to be comfy but not lag the kitchen sink with me.
@LB-W 4 season choice, tarptent scarp 1 for lightness, but if you want a tougher tent Nortent vern 1
@@Fellmandave1 I shall take a look
@@Fellmandave1 I don’t suppose you have a sleeping bag recommendation too 🙏😁
Seems a little bit short to use with big matress and winter sleeping bag.
@@user-jq9lr9vc4f was doing that fine last night. No problem..
You are trying very hard there Dave, but you aren't selling it to me! The Ly2 seems pretty 'in-proportion' for 2 people + child or dog, but I'm definitely not convinced by the need for 2 huge vestibules for a 1 person - and even poor Honey looked pretty miffed at the thought of being squeezed in beside your feet.
That's her, not camping again.! Face.
I love the two big opening doors and vestibules.. so it just goes to show, we all have our own wants and needs.. one tent could be perfect for one man and not the perfect tent for another.
@WanderingEnglishman you said it. There are just certain people that see this and say, "That's it!". Whereas the rest of us go, "Hmmmmmmm?".
Fair.
A Scoutmaster that calls a GROUNDSHEET a *Footprint* ?
It's like Fender calling a vibrato arm a ''tremolo'' ...
A ''footprint'' is : 1. A print of a shoe/boot made in soft earth. 2. An area covered by the base of an object at rest. A 'groundsheet' is a waterproof SHEET of robust material placed on the GROUND and used as the floor of a pitched tent - a 'fitted groundsheet' is the same thing, only permanently sewn into the tent itself.
Never in all my years of Scouting, military expeds, orienteering, hiking, camping have I ever heard anyone call a groundsheet a 'footprint'; other than perhaps in specifications when describing the area a tent covers when fully pitched.
@@Deebz270 A footprint goes under the fitted groundsheet. It has been an accepted term for decades, not just for small tents but for family tents as well.
Just because you haven't heard the term doesn't mean it is incorrect.
Thanks for the video. I like the tent but disappointed that the ground sheet doesn’t clip in so can pitch all in one. If it’s a wet day it’s going to be wet through before I even start on getting the tent put up. My vern 1 and 2 are all in one pitch which saves time and keeps things all dry. Can you see any way that this could be remedied as if I want to roll it back to cook on the floor may also be an issue. Cheers
Hi Marc, you could definitely pre attch it to the tent. i will look into this and demionstrate it on my first camp in the Ly1. its a good point and thanks fior bringing it up.
Should be able to get the weight down to 2.5kg fairly easily.
You only need half that number of pegs they've given you and no need for at least four of the guy lines.
I want to like but it feels like a 2 person tent with a one person inner
I know what you mean. I am keeping an open mind, will be warm in the winter though.
Not convinced,TBH. Thats alot of weight and footprint for a very small sleeping area. Id rather they widened it from 80cm to 120cm and dropped the second vestibule.
Frequently expressed my friend.
@15:41 he looks too tall for it too 😢
@@WanderingEnglishman he's not
Too heavy. For winter I'd save up for a Samaya.
What! Not the faded pink or baby blues! I would rather .....anything!
@@Fellmandave1 Yeah, I get that. It's a different use case in the Karakoram, where it's crucial for your tent to be visible and unmistakable for a boulder or dirt pile. I think that is a reason why Samaya uses those colors. There's been some disapproval of their white tents among mountaineers for that very reason. They have to weigh the disadvantage of the camouflage vs the weight advantage of an all dyneema tent in that case.
The weight of their tents is ridiculous.
They are built to a certain specification Simon, designed to be lasting. Not for everyone I know.