Looks like the topos pursuit have been discontinued as well. Have been looking for Altra alternate recently but none of their shoes quite fit what I wanted. 0 drop, 25-29 mm stack. Thanks for posting as was able to find a pair of pursuits in my size in stock.
@@MattShafter that’s great news thanks for the update! I’m looking forward to trying the pair I have coming. It’s sad that Altra has started having durability issues.
@MattShafter don't have a lot more to add on the UL kit tbh. Maybe just a tip to say that running your stove on low doubles your canister efficiency if you can handle the longer time to boil. Assuming you already know this though 😅
I always like the thought of having a speaker going while I hike, then I get to the trail and remember I'd miss out on the little sounds of nature and it inevitably gets left in the car. Wouldn't have it any other way 😂
Thanks for the gear rundown. I've been taking notes all through the video. At 81 I've backpacked enough years to have determined the gear that is COMFORTABLE yet UL. Below is my main gear. PACK-> Osprey EXOS 58 UL light but not the lightest FRAME pack yet the most comfortable I've found. TENT-> Tarptent Notch Li (Dyneema) A double wall solo tent with a with "solid" interior (whose fabric weighs LESS than mesh.) MUMMY BAG-> Western Mountaineering Megalite overstuffed 20 F. W/ 900 weight down. MATTRESS-> REI FLASH 3 season with a 3.2 R value, 16 oz.. It uses Sea to Summit valves and inflation dry bag. Genius! COOK SYSTEM-> Brunton CRUX canister top stove W/ DIY windscreen OR-> TRAIL DESIGNS Sidewinder titanium Caldera Cone with optional Inferno "gasifier" insert for use with wood. (Burns HOTT!) Usually I leave the Inferno inserts at home and just use ESBIT fuel tablets. Matching 3 cup Open Country anodized aluminum pot & lid. All clothes are synthetic or DWR treated down filled.
Thanks...That was fun. In the early '70's, I was a specialty store partner, and stayed as technically-current as current was at the time. My shop was the premier location in my city for the best gear & teaching. I also was a mountain guide (Rockies) for a couple years. Did a lot of mountaineering with a bit of technical stuff all year-round for a decade. I've taught groups of PE teachers from many districts how to teach their students XC-skiing & overnight camping. But before all that I started as a Boy Cub & Scout, then Junior Forest Warden, then a seasonal mountain ranch hand. Several decades later, I'm an old fart who can't get up the next mountain. I still (foolishly??..wistfully??) have most of my old gear. Technologies radically-changed from my preferred traditional to now very space-age technically advanced stuff, and are more rapidly changing a lot, weight has decreased a lot, and style seems to mean more than it used to. (so much for my plaid wool shirts) I wryly note the re-emergence of the external frame pack. I have two internal/frameless full packs (plus plus), and my very first two full-external frame packs. (provided you don't count my VERY first "Trapper" wood-frame & canvas) Of all the packs I've used, My Camp Trails "Hunter" (frame-only with drop-tray for hauling game) with the optional full bag was always my total favorite. My Kelty a very close second.. Both have full back mesh, ride an even full 1" off my back, outstanding buckles, straps & belt, oxford-weave coated nylon (not cordura), and after hundreds of weekend, many full-week and many 2-week trips of very hard use, never once failed. Removing the "Hunter's" bag, I've carried 100+ pounds of marble counter-top up 26 stairs 7 (x100#) times, a full dressed mule deer a mile & a half, plus a quartered moose about the same...4 trips (completely wiped-out both times) For me one of the best values of a full-frame, fully-loaded pack came from turtling into a tree-well, or hole, on my back, staring 6-8' straight up to the sky with my skies still buckled to my feet, poles strapped to my wrists, a hundred miles above me, and from any civilization. I could always get out of my frame-pack more easily than internal flex-frames or full soft packs. One time I was foolishly skiing myself on a weekend high alpine trip and the trail collapsed sending me into the deepest tree-well I've ever fallen into. Had I been wearing another pack, I'd likely still be there. Boots?.. I've tried so many boots. blown-out or worn-out, I truly can't count nor remember. The ones that stood the tests of time & abuse, and comfortably worn out honestly, have two similarities. They weren't low cost. They had high-carbon-black original Vibrams (and a couple other brands like Danner) and Goodyear welts. The best hiker/backpacker boots had 3/4 or full spring-steel shanks (slightly heavier & colder, yes). Those spring-steel shanks helped a lot when mid/heavy-packing for a long-weekend or multi-week trips. And, walking around town, added a 'spring' to every step. They always left black marks on hard floors. And they NEVER slipped on wet rocks or pavement or crosswalk paint or ice... And you never twisted an ankle. I could re-sole at least twice before the boot actually wore out, compared to "blow-out". I cannot count the times I've had to babysit clients with a foot bundled in cut-up sleeping pads & layers of socks & duct-tape, or boots duct-taped, to get them out. (one guy insisted on finishing the weekend...with a shortened sleeping pad) The boots which always failed spectacularly also had similar attributes. Except for one pair with Salomon black soles... every other brand, notably every Vibram, slip on wet rocks, wet pavement, crosswalk paint, and ice is a potential terminal event... They failed always and did so far before their "wear-date". They were those with the molded, multi-layered, glued sole to boot regardless the upper's material. Soles would catastrophically split, or separate, or the boot would split/separate at the sole... But Golly-Gee-Whiz, they were all sooo comfortable and most often light... Really, just walking shoes, sole pattern really being for dry princess trails & cities no matter how "grippy" they looked. Unreliable for long strenuous trips, so take two extra pairs. Or, get good, heavier, boots with proper construction, shanks & honest soles. If you're thinking long duration trips, you already have strong legs. Don't forget, what goes uphill must go downhill. Downhill jams your feet into the front toe of your shoe/boot. If your boots fit "perfectly", you might lose your toenails going downhill. Even laced tightly, they must be 1/4"-1/2" too long (toe-space). (I also bark about new cross-country skies & equipment similarly...Is a person out for a speed contest?.. Or a great relaxing, if strenuous, tour about in the winter-time, loving every sight & sound?.. Wine-skin & lunch included... Golfing, Fishing, Hiking, Finance, Politics & News all are suffering the same traps & conundrums... Speed & light-weight, Split-second gratification being the primary goal & be-damned the glories around you.) I could blah, blah for a great deal longer, under-layers to gear, hiking to cliff-jumping, fishing to building stuff... It's a book & I wander.
Well that was like the most enjoyable, informative, realistic, ultralight, gear list video I’ve ever seen! I especially like the Wallaby (?) bags, and the lesson on net base layers. Only thing I wasn’t down with is the air pump. I just started using a pump sack that came with my WIDE exped, and it is right up there with the thinlight and Dr. Bronners as a multi- tasker. Happy to have subscribed to your channel. One Love!
Leaving a comment because I just realized you were the guy I talked to taking b-roll footage of the Hyperlite at REI. Recognized workplace as soon as I saw the pack food wall with the climbing wall behind it. Funny I just ran into this vid lol
The pillow idea is so great! Ive always rolled up my jacket and slept okay.. but your design makes so much more sense for comfort yet still minimal. Thank you
Yes, I'm psyched about the pillow idea also. I'm a side sleeper who likes to put my arm under my pillow, and nothing ruins my sleep in the backcountry as often as having a tiny pillow or a wide one with no loft. I'm going to give your system a try.
Can we take a moment to appreciate the presentation of this video? So much good here: professional looking camera quality, clean/pleasant narration, tasteful and on topic decor in the background, visually pleasing color grades, etc. Well thought out pack list as well.
I am hoping this doesn't come off like an off handed compliment, but usually I feel gear list are just commercials for sponsors and change to much, but for some reason this one felt different, genuine is the word that comes to mind. The part about the Mesh base layers really sold me as unique and genuine... it feels with most people are just cycling through the usual same gear or what ever is hot atm.
@@aaroncio1894 some people get mad that I use stuff that’s no longer in production, but it shows you, I’m not in this game for the gear of the moment. I change gear only when it makes sense.
10/10 agree with the echo hoody. That is now our non-sponsored go-to for issuing to our team for outdoor education and rescue from hiking to Alpine to River environments. Very well prepared and presented video.
I remember watching your last full comfort lightweight video. I was rocking a 14 lbs baseweight at the time and thanks to your ideas I managed to get that down to 8.5 lbs. I'm glad to see that I am not the only person who uses those weight savings to bring along a can of chili. I did the Uinta Highline trail a couple of years ago, and having that hot meal at night that wasn't a nasty freeze dried one really helped my mental game. Looking forward to your next video.
I can easy relate to your approach to gear selection and purpose. I’ve gravitated to much of the same items section hiking the AT. Halfway now, headed back in June. This is one of the few videos I’ve taken several genuine tips from. Thanks
Haha This is exactly why I answer "Throw money at it." When asked how to get your pack weight down. I do agree with most of your picks. Superior Wilderness Designs and Light AF packs both let you customize your packs btw. My cook kit is 18 oz however, it allows me to cook and make a wide variety of foods. (I'm at 15k trail miles, so sick of hiker food). Also, because I carry flour for fresh pasta and bread and tortillas I actually save weight over carrying made tortillas or pasta. I like your tip on the OP sac alternative, those things constantly break at the seal. They're hardly worth using. oh also, if you want a good knife for food, Victorinox (same guys who make Swiss Army knives) make a folding pairing knife that weights 1.5 oz and is actually full size.
To actually be full comfort and ultralight, all you have to do is carry a hotel key to a 5 star hotel. If you do a trail run, you can run as many miles and finish the day in a hot tub or laying in a robe by a fireplace.
I understand where you coming from with the wind... but... used the Durston on the pct last year for 6 months. Worst year ever for weather on the pct and it performs along the best out there and Im comfortable when I say its the strongest trecking pole tent out there. Now im from sweden and I was braut up and own 3 hilleberg tents and they are made for the most extreme weather out there (black lable made for the artic). And off course the Durston isn't as stong as a black lable hillebergs... but there are almost no trip you are gonna do for leisure as a civilian or on a thruehike where you are gonna need the ability of a hilleberg and the Durston tents can handle all of that without a problem. It is a lot stronger then any other trekkingpole tent and its plenty enough for 99% of the trips people will do in the backcountry
@@jonschwarze3875 I guess it’s a difference in interpretation, since I still perceived it as an opinion rather than fact. There’s lots I don’t agree with in the world, but have my mind changed about things the longer I listened
I think you can still need something stronger (and quieter) that the xmid in wind but not black label level. Like a tunnel tent or a tipi one. But it's wrong to say that trekking pole tents are worst in wind than traditional tents, it's a lot more nuanced.
Glad you liked it. I decided to double the time I talked vs my last gear video. People seem to like the detail. Been a sub of yours for awhile now, good stuff!
@@MattShafterditto! I appreciate the detail when it comes to brands I’m not as familiar with and reasons why certain things are better (ie stitching of baffles or the mesh baselayer)
For me and what I've disliked about it (compared to what it used to be) is that it seems to have become more gatekeepy. There are PLENTY of people like me who don't have the money to buy new ultralight gear (student) but want to lighten their gear. I personally don't post, but I've seen people who have traditional heavy packs and then get SLANDERED and even have mods who make a mod post saying they don't allow their questions because it isn't an ultralight question. The ultralight subreddit for me, is to get experience from others and to learn about new gear so that I can reduce my pack weight whilst be as comfortable as possible. By having gatekeepy members and mods who will take down posts or have a sticky post at the top of a question means that they are less likely participate in this amazing community. That community is hands down the best and most experienced community I have seen for hiking, and we should be sharing that experience and knowledge to everyone. Everyone wants to (and probably is able to) reduce their pack weight!
@@bananarama3624how dare you use a synthetic quilt, or WORSE, a sleeping bag! And what’s this “freestanding tent” you like? We only use single wall dyneema trekking pole tents here. Don’t have one? You must not care about your base weight if you’re not willing to spend $4000 on gear
@@MattShafter I think the responses to this epitomize the struggle between ultralight and non-UL factions pretty well. For me, I'm glad that the forum still has a dedicated core of truly ultralight posters, but there's definitely more and more "lightweight" or mainstream backpackers, and in five or six years at the most I think it'll probably overwhelm the crowd.
I think you won UA-cam with this video. It is, hands-down, the best video I have seen in a long time. I have watched it several times and have made a number of purchases from your well-explained and logical suggestions. Thank you!
Although I’m new into the whole backpacking thing, I feel like I learned a whole lot from this video! As a chronic over packer I’ve been trying to find ways to streamline what I need and what I do not. I think one of the best tricks I learned from this video is that repair kits can be light and easy (what a great way to store a needle). Thanks so much for this video!
Great list. Very well justified. I watched this when it came out, but was watching it again today and had a couple of comments that might help you. First, when you talked about your quilt you made the comment that you might get another option for 2 reasons, drafts and amount of time needed to set it up. Regarding time to set up, I do two things that helps me in this situation. First, I make sure my pad strings are always in the pad bag. Actually, I leave the strings wrapped around the pad so that when I set up the pad they are ready. Second, I have marked my pad with markers on the side so that i know exactly where the pad strings should be located. When I have the pad blown up, it is ready to go. Just attach the quilt and let her rip. Regarding drafts, I simply put my puffy jacket by the side that tends to have drafts. This trick blocks the drafts and keeps my jacket warm if I need to put it on during the night. Once i have the jacket on, drafts are blocked anyway. I sleep on my left side most of the time. When I roll onto my side, I tend to get a draft from the right side, so I put my jacket on the right side and sleep draft free during the night. Of course, the best option is to learn to turn inside the quilt without getting a draft. Unfortunately, I have been using a quilt for 15 years and I still cannot pull this off every time. Try the jacket trick; it makes a huge difference!
Your video content is based on YOUR opinion and I can sure tell the difference between brothers like you - who have done it - and those who sure like to act. Such a good video...Thank You Matt!
Super solid list! I was chuckling as you listed out the tent, backpack and quilt and they were nearly identical as what I currently run, also after years of careful refinement. My pack is the frameless version (would love to compare to the framed one someday) but does what I need and is far more comfortable than the 2400 (which I also have, for short trips with the kids where I need to carry more). We must think alike, I also have some of the Ruta Locura stakes, which I hardly ever see mentioned anywhere. 🙂
Interesting point about mesh base layers. As a cyclist, I use them, even in hot conditions when just a jersey might seem a better option and they are great. I’d never thought about using one for backpacking.
Matt, I’m add weight my pack this summer. Tired of not being able to sleep so I got the Helinox Cot light. Love it so far. Also bring an Cezve for boiling water and making Turkish coffee.
I bring my German Shepard. She is a wonderful camping/hiking companion. She has a harness with molle pouches on each side and pulls a Burley cart. She helps carry the gear and security.
As a cyclist i have been using these mesh layers made from Polypropylen for a long time, my experience is that as some high temperatures they stop being beneficial, just because the added material on your skin starts heating you and makes you sweat faster. Maybe it's because in cycling you have more wind at higher speed and the high wind will just cool everything, but now the mesh works against this. I find them great for using when in cycling where the difference between the temperatures and energy you produce is so high. So you cycle down a hill at 70km/h and do 0 energy and will be cold or you cycle up a hill at 6km/h and do 500Watts. You can fine tune you temperature in small steps with these, and they are great when you have to sweat in cold conditions.
@@MattShafter I have different sizes, one like you show i the Video. i don't remember any pros wearing them anymore. I think the big difference is that cycling jersey are worn ultraright and are already made with that in mind. Modern ones are basically already kind of a fishnet.
My deepest heartfelt condolences to you and your family on the loss of your Dad. Regarding your channel, I would support you more with contributions if I could, but my trail name should literally be something like ‘Spare Change’, as that’s how I’ve saved up for most of my backpacking gear. You know I’m here for whatever type of videos you make. As are many of your followers. Take care, Dan. Sincerely, BJ
This guy its at least one of the smartest gear list around. Immidiatly when he mention the consider of the Dyneema tent I knew this was something else. Including that BRS stove. Thank god for carrying a map as well. However the shoe should not fit out of the box, because if you get a shoe that fit the same size you wear dress shoes for example, I can assure you you gonna get blisters ans heels problems, in Wirth case loose your toe nails. One thumb rule, is at least a finger bigger. Trust me I am a professional on this term with 30 years of experience and worked also at a store. The Torrid Synthentic jacket is also not very reliable on wet emergency days where you're more likely soaked in heavy rain. Test it go to the shower, get out, and try to out that jacket on. I had hypothermia once I got stuck on a storm and had to put a shelter. Me and my wife could almost don't put that jacket on. Eventually we did.
This is an excellent, informative video that gives great explanations on the "why" of gear selections aside from just trail weight. Well done. Given that my hiking and camping trips are a little less extreme I don't think I'd ever need to go quite this light, but I have room for improvement and there are some great gear options and creative ideas for systems here (love the pillow build, and these rain protection options would be a great area for me to knock off some bulk and weight). The gear descriptions and links earned this video a save. The righteous slappage of Bluetooth speaker hikers earned you a subsciber.
I tallied up what this all cost in 2021 and it was only $400 more than the AVERAGE PCT hiker spends. I’m honestly ok with that. Now, post covid inflation? Yeh, that’s bad, but I’ve collected this stuff over 8+ years.
Man I've seen 100 of these vids. This was the best one. Very well done. Very good rational. I'm not sure the pillow is a perfect solution for me but I absolutely love the ingenuity and conceptually I think you're really on too something is it actually comfy who knows.
Thx again, Matt. I’m always learning new things on your channel. I don’t know any other YT accounts that have the kind of eye for detail in gear choices like you do. Cheers.
I always camped alone and never really talked to people who camped so I just didn't notice all the gear over the past 20 years. I live in Ohio and usually go south to the smokies or up to the lake. Red river gorge was a nice place till people found out about it . I'm Genx, and use my grandpas gear and old cold war leftovers. A waxed tarp, wool blanket and sleeping bag. I use my work boots (I replace them often at work to look nice) so I know I'm good feet wise I'm particular about my footware. I carry around a 50+ pound tool bag all day and frankly I'm a fairly large and strong man (6'2" ) who works a trade so my 25 year old alum frame pack could hold another camper but I am getting older and the new gear looks nice, the old tarp is reliable, I know I'll be ok in the strongest winds and weather, but it's heavy. I'm stubborn about my heavy wool sleeping bag which weighs as much as your kit, I just don't like synthetic material and prefer winter camping. The water filters are really nice to have , I did upgrade to that the first time I saw them. It was a game changer, no more spending nights boiling water for the next day.my light pack is just a wool blanket my fire kit, a knife, water, food, a pan and some cord. 7.5 lbs is amazing to me (I've hiked many miles with 75 but I do usually camp for an extended time and in winter) Thanks for introducing me to this style of camping.
For a cup replacement lid you can use a thick piece of aluminum. I started doing that for backpacking trips. It can be unreliable for multi-night outings though.
I’ve been packing a plant now for some years. I go with a light weight lime tree that I bonsai down for my ultralight pack. I’ve only had one bad incident when a person I thought was just another friendly trader stole my whole harvest. I got him back just as trail pirates came upon us and I was able to snap his trecking poles on my way by leaving him stranded on the trail.
Thanks soft the great video, Matt! I have the X-Mid Pro 1 tent too, and I love it, except for the fact that it is completely translucent! Not only do I feel exposed when changing clothes in a group camp situation, but the moonlight and sunlight shines right through it. I can clearly see the moon and headlamps of other campers through my tent, which makes it difficult to sleep without a mask. Other than that, I like it.
Love the list. My only complaint, well more of a warning: Sunscreen sticks are still supposed to be physically rubbed in to insure full coverage. This may sound like a "this will never happen to me", but its fairly easy to miss spots with a sunscreen stick because your applied lines don't perfectly overlap and you end up with a zebra pattern sunburn. I would just say either be extremely meticulous when applying, or physically rub the applied area to spread out evenly which is recommended on a lot sunscreen stick packaging. Also, interested in if you've seen GearSkeptic's (great backpacking channel) video "Backpacker Fact-Checker, #3: Inflating a pad with your breath". He goes over how he's seen no evidence of mold ruining a pad, but rather, the spotting people see and assume mold is a heat reflective coating flaking off on the inside. It's a very good video and I highly recommend it as it covers a lot more topics than just that.
Anyone else remember the BattleRattle days of this channel? Good stuff as always. I found a Sierra Designs High Route FL 1 last year on sale for $154. Best deal ever and it also uses offset poles and has a smaller footprint than the Durston tents. Another good budget option.
I appreciate your personable candor. Especially in the description. I realized that a visor with a silk head gaiter works best for me. I tried a hat but a pumpkin head prevents comfortability.
Excellent choices and advice. I like zippers on my layers, too: Wider comfort range. I add front zips to ponchos and arm or torso vents to jackets, too. Am I wrong for wanting a 30-inch-wide pad (and tents that will fit it/them)?
Came here to see what you're using for a quilt now. I picked up a Nunatak Arc UL years ago right after your thorough review vid (don't see it now?). Continues to serve me well after many many years and thousands of miles, but the imo slightly annoying pad attachment system and velcro footbox closure that snags my socks has me checking in on your setup (plus they didn't do the side elastic option then). Great updates, as usual. Some of these comments have me like 'y'all need to put some respect on one of the OG ULs out there.'
Hi Marce! Now that Nunatak makes the Sastrugi, I am going to get one. My fiance got one and it's just tremendous. The Sastrugi is in all reality two quilts in one. There's is the warmer 28F side and I estimate the other side to be about 38-45F (I still want to test that though.) Plus NO DRAFTS, NO Stupid cords or straps. Quilts were designed to save weight, but in 2024 the 30F Katabatic Palisade with the cords weighs 22.2oz (in my size) but a Sastrugi in my size weighs only 19.6oz. The Sastrugi is also easier to make, so it costs less.
@@MattShafter Right on. I feel loyal to Nunatak despite the aforementioned niggles bc it's really a quality product, but my 2025 goals are to reduce/eliminate the fiddly-factor as much as possible with everything, and straps are def in that category. Looking forward to your review of the Sastrugi!
Always excited to see your videos. One of the very few channels I can come to and always concisely learn something new, and know the information is super well processed. Really the only person recommending gear that I feel I can actually trust to fit that sweet-spot of lightweight yet still comfortable/durable. Thanks man!
Matt, I'm so glad your video came up in my suggestions. You've produced one of the most well thought out, well produced, but still concise review of hiking gear that I've ever seen. Thanks for doing what you do, but more than that, thanks for inspiring some upgrades to my own gear.
Being a new backpacker, I’ve dabbled into all the ultralight UA-camrs for any advice I could get. Your channel has been the most influential for me for broadening how I think about gear scientifically while also showing the importance of multifunctional options. This video has given me some new ideas to play around with as well. P.S I graduate DPT school this December too!
Hey Matt! Great gear list. You've given me some good ideas -- I really like your pillow setup with your down jacket in particular. I noticed you mentioned you've had two pads ruined by mold. Another channel I follow, Gear Skeptic, was looking into the possibilities of mold inside pads and couldn't find any examples of actual mold in the pad. Often, what appears to be mold is actually the breakdown and flaking of reflective and insulating material inside the pad. This can cast shadows that look like mold from the outside. Have you thrown these pads away? I'd be interested to know how you noticed the mold growth, and how certain you were that was the problem. I'm debating whether or not to purchase a pump for my sleeping pad, and the insight from an experienced hiker would be very helpful. Thanks!
Good list. Some original ideas to consider. Particularly, I just started experimenting with a a Brynje mesh base-layer in the cold months, but have been wondering about its applicability in warm weather. Will definitely give this a go now. Thanks!
For sure - my primary trip is an extended trip in the high-Sierra this year. Some portions of SHR with JMT, so that's the target. I'll experiment in hopefully low-humidity days in early spring in the Blue Ridge here on the East Coast. I would also use the OR Echo on top of that for warm weather.
Fishnet or Mesh undershirts and bottoms have been around since at least WW1. I have been wearing fishnet under garments since the late 1960. The best ones are made my Brynje and now once again available in the USA. Once available at REI. Did you miss speak when you said that the moister on the skin passes through the holes to the outer layer? The moister on the skin wicks on the mish and changes state from liquid to vapor and passes to the outer layer or the open air. The 3/8 inch openings in the mesh with a mid layer become dead air spaces and insulate. (dead air is a great insulator). With a ventilation layers. i.e. open front shirt, ventil shirt, no shirt allows the escaping vapor to evaporate to cool the body. Good presentation on light weight gear. I'm fascinated by the present-day obsession with How light can I go? My obsession has always been how long will it last? Can I use it on a cross-country ski trip, kayaking, biking hiking etc. Occam's Razer has always been my guide. The simplest solution is always the best solution. But it is all about what works for you. Whatever it takes to inspire you to get out and enjoy whatever it is that you go outdoors to do. Fish, photography, counting miles, enjoy a sun set. Just remember to put a feather in your hat band as a reminder to tread lightly on the earth. Your framed backpack brought back memories of me back packing with my two oldest sitting on top my frame pact hanging on for dear life as we went down or up the trail, sleeping on closed 1/4 inch closed cell foam pads. Firing up our Seva 123, and nesting Sig pots, which are going out with me in the next few weeks after 50 plus years in service.
Hi! I didn't misspeak about sweat evaporating off the skin. Certainly on my Castelli mesh summer shirt, some small percentage of sweat will get wicked by the fabric. But the shirt holes are so open, alot of sweat will never reach fabric. It will phase change to vapor not long after it emerges from the body. Google "70 years have passed since Hillary and Tenzing climbed Mt. Everest" and go to the Brynje page. Look how those 1953 garment holes are even WIDER than what brynje currently offers. The holes are so wide; even less chance of sweat getting wicked. I actually messaged Brynje and said they need to make the summer mesh shirt holes WIDER, for even less wicking and more skin evaporating. Sweat evaporating on the skin is the Rolls Royce of cooling. It's why in ancient Africa we lost our hair, made more sweat glands and dominated the heat. I do understand that the mesh creates dead space, but only if the layer above doesn't allow for convection. The system I speak must have a VERY breathable sun hoody to work. I'll put that feather in my cap! Thank you!
@@MattShafter Maybe something was lost in the translation in my remarks and maybe lack of clarity. The mesh underlayer works in two ways. In the winter the holes have a mid layer over them that holds in the trapped warm air yet allowing moisture to move away from the skin to the outer layers to dissipate, preventing a drop in temperature of the core. In warm weather, by allowing for ventilation to the core using a ventilation shirt or opening the front of the shirt moisture can rapidly dissipate by evaporation creating a cooling effect. I Wear my mesh shirt year around from -20 F to 110 F and take advantage of the thermal properties of wearing mesh and its heat regulation properties.
My experience with the Durston 1 person is quite different from yours. I'm 6'2" and weigh 210 lbs and found it to be constrictive, almost claustrophobic, like every other 1 person tent I've used. So I shelled out for a Z Packs 2 person shelter.
You know what? The Aeon Li was my last 1 person shelter and that made me swear them off. Cause that WAS a coffin, i don't care how many pics they showed with 6'11" guy in there. Maybe that's coloring my ideas?
Nice kit. My base weight is about 8 pounds and I have everything I could ever need. That said the only thing I am still on the fence about is my DCF tent. I live on the East Coast and the trails can be super wet, endless rain and condensation has been a real issue. I have thought about going back to my Tiger Wall. It certainly weighs more but I never had any condensation issues. Take care
Thanks. Another helpful video. I've dialed down my total weight (less consumables) carried in the pack and worn by watching your videos. Base weight is now 9.5 pounds (yeah me!). I carry a mixture of retail bought packaged foods (heavily discounted at Sierra Trading Post and a lot less than at REI) and my own home made meals based on Skurka's recipes. Eliminating the air in the Backcountry brand meals helps some with weight and drastically cuts down on overall volume so more fits in the bear canister. That all said, I'm planning on a total weight near (lower than?) 20 lbs for my upcoming JMT through Hike. Again, thanks for another great video.
This is seriously impressive! Thank you for a great video and a fantastic overview of all the gear with weights. And thank you for making it available in metric as well :)
In case you haven't seen it Trail Stuff makes a Trailbrush that weighs 2g and attaches to the end of a toaks titanium spoon. Also, sunscreen sticks should not be used for the primary application of sunscreen, only for touchups, its nearly impossible to get even coverage with a stick. And another nerdy btw European imported sunscreen (UVMUNE 400 is goated) is MUCH better than American sunscreen whose last UV filter ingredient was approved decades ago.
This is the only video I’ve ever had UA-cam alert me to watch with a reminder. Your OG full comfort video changed my view on what was possible and this one only built on it with the wisdom youve acquired over the years. See you back here in another few years then! Looking forward to it!
I'd also just really like to personally thank you for putting to rest the debate I've been waging in my head for literal YEARS now; hand sanitizer vs. soap. When in doubt I've opted for soap (even if I very seldom use it), but I know there are a handful of famous UL hikers out there who are still pushing hand sanitizer, hence I've often second guessed myself. The way I've seen it, if both liquids are of equal weight, soap can do everything hand sanitizer does, but hand sanitizer cannot do everything soap does. One leaves your hands smelling nice, the other like rubbing alcohol. Just never understood the preference for sanitizer over soap.
@@MattShafter I dont really use him for back packing stuff, too heavy and bulky. Car camp, oh hell yeah. Be sure to read about his insulation and how he rates his bags. I have two bags, a coat, and a few other bits.
I think your Leukotape on Silicone Paper hack is the most overlooked by backpackers. I love Leuko. BUT Leuko only comes on huge rolls and removing it from the roll "activates" the adhesive. I did the ubiquitous unraveling from a roll and turning it around a treking pole to find that it had practically welded itself, to itself. I have no confidence in reusing the tape off my treking pole on the trail. Is that why you went with applying it to silcone paper? I take a full roll because I think it won't have the same adhesion if I take it off the roll before hiking to reduce weight.
I apply mine in precut strips to wax paper or the leftover backing paper of labels that I’ve ran out of and both work great. Haven’t had an issue yet with losing adhesive strength.
Yeah, desperately holding up our durston 2p up with my husband as our tent swam in water (did stay water proof mostly tho) during a prolonged storm in the night really didn't sell me on a trecking pole tent.😂 Back to a 70$ 4 lb one i got on Amazon 🤷🏼♀️
You must have put in a crazy amount of hours researching to put this together so well🔥I'm not even interested in camping, but it was awesome to watch. I love high-quality gadgets, and it would be cool to see what you use on a daily basis
I'm so glad to hear that you, an UL hiker, brings paper maps, a compass, somewhat of a knife, extra matches, and you know how to use them. I just feel that way too many zombie walkers (the over the top, extremist type of UL hikers) are very careless and dangerous when they don't bring anykind of fall back equipment. They depend too much on their phone and just assume that nothing will ever happen to them. You even see a lot of UA-cam UL hikers actually put down the concept of bringing a compass and map, or anykind of emergency fall back equipment, and will call it stupid and pointless! Which is such a wrong message and influence to be telling beginner hikers. It really bothers me and makes me mad when I hear them doing that, and it seems to happen more and more within the extreme UL community nowadays.
Hey Matt, I always can go to you to get the latest and greatest ultralight and other gear.. I watched this weeks ago but just didn't comment at this time.. Fantastic views and comments that are well deserved.. I dont think I have ever learned as much in 30 mins.... great edit and put together of the video too... Definitely one of the very best videos I have watched in a long time... Best wishes Tom
Woooooo thanks for the comments. I can always go to you to find ACTUALLY weatherproof tents. You should be able to get a full nights sleep in your tent, so you have to trust it. That’s where you come in. I actually want you to put a flat top on a truck and just drive hilleberg tents around at 60mph. Viral video every time lol. DO IT!
What did you like? What would you change? Check out my Lighterpack link in the description for the weights and details. Thanks
Looks like the topos pursuit have been discontinued as well. Have been looking for Altra alternate recently but none of their shoes quite fit what I wanted. 0 drop, 25-29 mm stack. Thanks for posting as was able to find a pair of pursuits in my size in stock.
@@1975mtl I got a hold of Topo this morning and they said they're refreshing the Pursuit this Spring.
@@MattShafter that’s great news thanks for the update! I’m looking forward to trying the pair I have coming. It’s sad that Altra has started having durability issues.
Explain trekking pole tents on the john Muir trail
@@Casual_BackPacking Lots of Cowboy camping followed by lots of rocks on stakes turned sideways.
From a guy that watches hours of gear reviews everyday and seldom comments. Thankyou for existing 🎉
Wow …. Teach me something then. You’ve been watching all them vids. You know stuff!
@MattShafter don't have a lot more to add on the UL kit tbh. Maybe just a tip to say that running your stove on low doubles your canister efficiency if you can handle the longer time to boil. Assuming you already know this though 😅
2000s goths going through old clothes for their vintage base layers
Let me know if you find a Montane Tellez from 2013.
I always like the thought of having a speaker going while I hike, then I get to the trail and remember I'd miss out on the little sounds of nature and it inevitably gets left in the car. Wouldn't have it any other way 😂
Yes, we all love our own musics!
Thanks for the gear rundown. I've been taking notes all through the video.
At 81 I've backpacked enough years to have determined the gear that is COMFORTABLE yet UL. Below is my main gear.
PACK-> Osprey EXOS 58 UL light but not the lightest FRAME pack yet the most comfortable I've found.
TENT-> Tarptent Notch Li (Dyneema) A double wall solo tent with a with "solid" interior (whose fabric weighs LESS than mesh.)
MUMMY BAG-> Western Mountaineering Megalite overstuffed 20 F. W/ 900 weight down.
MATTRESS-> REI FLASH 3 season with a 3.2 R value, 16 oz.. It uses Sea to Summit valves and inflation dry bag. Genius!
COOK SYSTEM-> Brunton CRUX canister top stove W/ DIY windscreen OR-> TRAIL DESIGNS Sidewinder titanium Caldera Cone with optional Inferno "gasifier" insert for use with wood. (Burns HOTT!) Usually I leave the Inferno inserts at home and just use ESBIT fuel tablets. Matching 3 cup Open Country anodized aluminum pot & lid.
All clothes are synthetic or DWR treated down filled.
I like that setup!
That comment about slapping people listening to music on their bt speaker on the trail really made my day, subscribed ! 😂
Slap you very much!
This!!
@@j.stephens257 LOL
Funny, that was the moment I also subscribed. Not that i condone face slapping or anything.
Haha double that
So much information in so little time. Excellent presentation, no philosophy, no ums and you know.
Glad you liked it!
Thanks...That was fun. In the early '70's, I was a specialty store partner, and stayed as technically-current as current was at the time. My shop was the premier location in my city for the best gear & teaching. I also was a mountain guide (Rockies) for a couple years. Did a lot of mountaineering with a bit of technical stuff all year-round for a decade. I've taught groups of PE teachers from many districts how to teach their students XC-skiing & overnight camping. But before all that I started as a Boy Cub & Scout, then Junior Forest Warden, then a seasonal mountain ranch hand. Several decades later, I'm an old fart who can't get up the next mountain. I still (foolishly??..wistfully??) have most of my old gear. Technologies radically-changed from my preferred traditional to now very space-age technically advanced stuff, and are more rapidly changing a lot, weight has decreased a lot, and style seems to mean more than it used to. (so much for my plaid wool shirts)
I wryly note the re-emergence of the external frame pack. I have two internal/frameless full packs (plus plus), and my very first two full-external frame packs. (provided you don't count my VERY first "Trapper" wood-frame & canvas) Of all the packs I've used, My Camp Trails "Hunter" (frame-only with drop-tray for hauling game) with the optional full bag was always my total favorite. My Kelty a very close second.. Both have full back mesh, ride an even full 1" off my back, outstanding buckles, straps & belt, oxford-weave coated nylon (not cordura), and after hundreds of weekend, many full-week and many 2-week trips of very hard use, never once failed. Removing the "Hunter's" bag, I've carried 100+ pounds of marble counter-top up 26 stairs 7 (x100#) times, a full dressed mule deer a mile & a half, plus a quartered moose about the same...4 trips (completely wiped-out both times)
For me one of the best values of a full-frame, fully-loaded pack came from turtling into a tree-well, or hole, on my back, staring 6-8' straight up to the sky with my skies still buckled to my feet, poles strapped to my wrists, a hundred miles above me, and from any civilization. I could always get out of my frame-pack more easily than internal flex-frames or full soft packs. One time I was foolishly skiing myself on a weekend high alpine trip and the trail collapsed sending me into the deepest tree-well I've ever fallen into. Had I been wearing another pack, I'd likely still be there.
Boots?.. I've tried so many boots. blown-out or worn-out, I truly can't count nor remember. The ones that stood the tests of time & abuse, and comfortably worn out honestly, have two similarities. They weren't low cost. They had high-carbon-black original Vibrams (and a couple other brands like Danner) and Goodyear welts. The best hiker/backpacker boots had 3/4 or full spring-steel shanks (slightly heavier & colder, yes). Those spring-steel shanks helped a lot when mid/heavy-packing for a long-weekend or multi-week trips. And, walking around town, added a 'spring' to every step. They always left black marks on hard floors. And they NEVER slipped on wet rocks or pavement or crosswalk paint or ice... And you never twisted an ankle. I could re-sole at least twice before the boot actually wore out, compared to "blow-out". I cannot count the times I've had to babysit clients with a foot bundled in cut-up sleeping pads & layers of socks & duct-tape, or boots duct-taped, to get them out. (one guy insisted on finishing the weekend...with a shortened sleeping pad)
The boots which always failed spectacularly also had similar attributes. Except for one pair with Salomon black soles... every other brand, notably every Vibram, slip on wet rocks, wet pavement, crosswalk paint, and ice is a potential terminal event... They failed always and did so far before their "wear-date". They were those with the molded, multi-layered, glued sole to boot regardless the upper's material. Soles would catastrophically split, or separate, or the boot would split/separate at the sole... But Golly-Gee-Whiz, they were all sooo comfortable and most often light... Really, just walking shoes, sole pattern really being for dry princess trails & cities no matter how "grippy" they looked. Unreliable for long strenuous trips, so take two extra pairs. Or, get good, heavier, boots with proper construction, shanks & honest soles. If you're thinking long duration trips, you already have strong legs. Don't forget, what goes uphill must go downhill. Downhill jams your feet into the front toe of your shoe/boot. If your boots fit "perfectly", you might lose your toenails going downhill. Even laced tightly, they must be 1/4"-1/2" too long (toe-space).
(I also bark about new cross-country skies & equipment similarly...Is a person out for a speed contest?.. Or a great relaxing, if strenuous, tour about in the winter-time, loving every sight & sound?.. Wine-skin & lunch included... Golfing, Fishing, Hiking, Finance, Politics & News all are suffering the same traps & conundrums... Speed & light-weight, Split-second gratification being the primary goal & be-damned the glories around you.)
I could blah, blah for a great deal longer, under-layers to gear, hiking to cliff-jumping, fishing to building stuff... It's a book & I wander.
That’s some serious experience, thanks for sharing!
That pillow hack with the buff is genius.
People love it
Well that was like the most enjoyable, informative, realistic, ultralight, gear list video I’ve ever seen! I especially like the Wallaby (?) bags, and the lesson on net base layers. Only thing I wasn’t down with is the air pump. I just started using a pump sack that came with my WIDE exped, and it is right up there with the thinlight and Dr. Bronners as a multi- tasker. Happy to have subscribed to your channel. One Love!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Exped's Schnozzle UL is a great multi-use item.
@@0errant People love that thing! I should try it.
@@MattShafter at 58g, it is a bit heavier than the dry sack you’re using, but then you can skip the FlexTail.
I was just about to mention this too. I have an Exped schnozzle dry bag and I'm almost able to inflate my mat in one pump with the 42L bag
Leaving a comment because I just realized you were the guy I talked to taking b-roll footage of the Hyperlite at REI. Recognized workplace as soon as I saw the pack food wall with the climbing wall behind it. Funny I just ran into this vid lol
Hahaha hello!!!! It’s being pushed to lots of people! Good meeting you!
Great episode Matt!
The pillow idea is so great! Ive always rolled up my jacket and slept okay.. but your design makes so much more sense for comfort yet still minimal. Thank you
Glad it was helpful!
Yes, I'm psyched about the pillow idea also. I'm a side sleeper who likes to put my arm under my pillow, and nothing ruins my sleep in the backcountry as often as having a tiny pillow or a wide one with no loft. I'm going to give your system a try.
Can we take a moment to appreciate the presentation of this video? So much good here: professional looking camera quality, clean/pleasant narration, tasteful and on topic decor in the background, visually pleasing color grades, etc. Well thought out pack list as well.
We did a good thing!
@@MattShafter Great walk through. I think those light hiking pants are gone and I'm looking for another source on the holy shirts. Some fine editing.
Yeah, this is my first video of yours. I love it. What camera are you using, and what kind of lighting do you have?@@MattShafter
@@TonySaysHello S5II and I light my face with a 150w light with a big ole diffuser
I am hoping this doesn't come off like an off handed compliment, but usually I feel gear list are just commercials for sponsors and change to much, but for some reason this one felt different, genuine is the word that comes to mind. The part about the Mesh base layers really sold me as unique and genuine... it feels with most people are just cycling through the usual same gear or what ever is hot atm.
@@aaroncio1894 some people get mad that I use stuff that’s no longer in production, but it shows you, I’m not in this game for the gear of the moment. I change gear only when it makes sense.
10/10 agree with the echo hoody. That is now our non-sponsored go-to for issuing to our team for outdoor education and rescue from hiking to Alpine to River environments.
Very well prepared and presented video.
Thanks!
I'm preparing for the Colorado Trail and this is simply awesome!! Comment for the algorithm
Well what the heck? Why didn't you invite all of us?
I remember watching your last full comfort lightweight video. I was rocking a 14 lbs baseweight at the time and thanks to your ideas I managed to get that down to 8.5 lbs.
I'm glad to see that I am not the only person who uses those weight savings to bring along a can of chili. I did the Uinta Highline trail a couple of years ago, and having that hot meal at night that wasn't a nasty freeze dried one really helped my mental game.
Looking forward to your next video.
We're Chili Bros!!!
I can easy relate to your approach to gear selection and purpose. I’ve gravitated to much of the same items section hiking the AT. Halfway now, headed back in June. This is one of the few videos I’ve taken several genuine tips from. Thanks
Good stuff!!! Have fun in June! Where you starting at?
Haha This is exactly why I answer "Throw money at it." When asked how to get your pack weight down. I do agree with most of your picks. Superior Wilderness Designs and Light AF packs both let you customize your packs btw. My cook kit is 18 oz however, it allows me to cook and make a wide variety of foods. (I'm at 15k trail miles, so sick of hiker food). Also, because I carry flour for fresh pasta and bread and tortillas I actually save weight over carrying made tortillas or pasta. I like your tip on the OP sac alternative, those things constantly break at the seal. They're hardly worth using. oh also, if you want a good knife for food, Victorinox (same guys who make Swiss Army knives) make a folding pairing knife that weights 1.5 oz and is actually full size.
To actually be full comfort and ultralight, all you have to do is carry a hotel key to a 5 star hotel. If you do a trail run, you can run as many miles and finish the day in a hot tub or laying in a robe by a fireplace.
Yes, but you live with me and you know I'm too fat to trail run. ;)
Whats the fun in that?!
My brain got a tickle thinking of you carrying your plant on the trail from campsite to campsite. BTW: Might you be also needing a plant stand ?.....
@@SuperBookdragon I need to get one!
I understand where you coming from with the wind... but... used the Durston on the pct last year for 6 months. Worst year ever for weather on the pct and it performs along the best out there and Im comfortable when I say its the strongest trecking pole tent out there. Now im from sweden and I was braut up and own 3 hilleberg tents and they are made for the most extreme weather out there (black lable made for the artic). And off course the Durston isn't as stong as a black lable hillebergs... but there are almost no trip you are gonna do for leisure as a civilian or on a thruehike where you are gonna need the ability of a hilleberg and the Durston tents can handle all of that without a problem. It is a lot stronger then any other trekkingpole tent and its plenty enough for 99% of the trips people will do in the backcountry
@@jonschwarze3875 why, he can't have a differing opinion and still have good info for other stuff? That makes no sense
@@jonschwarze3875 I guess it’s a difference in interpretation, since I still perceived it as an opinion rather than fact. There’s lots I don’t agree with in the world, but have my mind changed about things the longer I listened
I think you can still need something stronger (and quieter) that the xmid in wind but not black label level. Like a tunnel tent or a tipi one. But it's wrong to say that trekking pole tents are worst in wind than traditional tents, it's a lot more nuanced.
Most sophisticated gear review I have ever seen. Love it! The detailed explanations in your lighterpack sheet are brilliant. Thank you a lot!
Glad it was helpful!
This is so detailed. I camp and backpack quite often, and just learned so many things from your detailed descriptions
Glad you liked it. I decided to double the time I talked vs my last gear video. People seem to like the detail. Been a sub of yours for awhile now, good stuff!
@@MattShafterditto! I appreciate the detail when it comes to brands I’m not as familiar with and reasons why certain things are better (ie stitching of baffles or the mesh baselayer)
@@jackrinv NO worries. It was easy!
/r/ultralight isn't what it used to be, but your "full comfort" gear list is always lit
I started posting again. Seems like a lot of traditional hikers upvoting bad responses?!
For me and what I've disliked about it (compared to what it used to be) is that it seems to have become more gatekeepy.
There are PLENTY of people like me who don't have the money to buy new ultralight gear (student) but want to lighten their gear. I personally don't post, but I've seen people who have traditional heavy packs and then get SLANDERED and even have mods who make a mod post saying they don't allow their questions because it isn't an ultralight question.
The ultralight subreddit for me, is to get experience from others and to learn about new gear so that I can reduce my pack weight whilst be as comfortable as possible. By having gatekeepy members and mods who will take down posts or have a sticky post at the top of a question means that they are less likely participate in this amazing community.
That community is hands down the best and most experienced community I have seen for hiking, and we should be sharing that experience and knowledge to everyone. Everyone wants to (and probably is able to) reduce their pack weight!
@@bananarama3624how dare you use a synthetic quilt, or WORSE, a sleeping bag! And what’s this “freestanding tent” you like? We only use single wall dyneema trekking pole tents here. Don’t have one? You must not care about your base weight if you’re not willing to spend $4000 on gear
@@MattShafter I think the responses to this epitomize the struggle between ultralight and non-UL factions pretty well. For me, I'm glad that the forum still has a dedicated core of truly ultralight posters, but there's definitely more and more "lightweight" or mainstream backpackers, and in five or six years at the most I think it'll probably overwhelm the crowd.
Be Kind. For Sure Most people would Love to Go Ultralight If they can afford it.
I think you won UA-cam with this video. It is, hands-down, the best video I have seen in a long time. I have watched it several times and have made a number of purchases from your well-explained and logical suggestions. Thank you!
Glad you enjoyed it!
This is an incredible resource. Thank you for sharing your findings and experiences.
No worries! It was 20+ hours of work but I enjoyed it!
I subscribed just for the Bluetooth speaker comment. You are a king among men!
We're out here slappin!
i also did this great video mate
Although I’m new into the whole backpacking thing, I feel like I learned a whole lot from this video! As a chronic over packer I’ve been trying to find ways to streamline what I need and what I do not. I think one of the best tricks I learned from this video is that repair kits can be light and easy (what a great way to store a needle). Thanks so much for this video!
Glad it was helpful! Build your system up slowly over time!
Great list. Very well justified. I watched this when it came out, but was watching it again today and had a couple of comments that might help you. First, when you talked about your quilt you made the comment that you might get another option for 2 reasons, drafts and amount of time needed to set it up.
Regarding time to set up, I do two things that helps me in this situation. First, I make sure my pad strings are always in the pad bag. Actually, I leave the strings wrapped around the pad so that when I set up the pad they are ready. Second, I have marked my pad with markers on the side so that i know exactly where the pad strings should be located. When I have the pad blown up, it is ready to go. Just attach the quilt and let her rip.
Regarding drafts, I simply put my puffy jacket by the side that tends to have drafts. This trick blocks the drafts and keeps my jacket warm if I need to put it on during the night. Once i have the jacket on, drafts are blocked anyway. I sleep on my left side most of the time. When I roll onto my side, I tend to get a draft from the right side, so I put my jacket on the right side and sleep draft free during the night.
Of course, the best option is to learn to turn inside the quilt without getting a draft. Unfortunately, I have been using a quilt for 15 years and I still cannot pull this off every time. Try the jacket trick; it makes a huge difference!
Really good tips! Thank you!
Love the Plant, but i prefer to take a cactus, it a bit less maintenance and the soil is less water saturated so weighs a bit less.
That's a way better plant.
If i ever go ultralite i will be doing this exact setup great ideas and great presentation love the pillow idea.
Woooooooo. Go ultralight gradually and learn what you like!
Your video content is based on YOUR opinion and I can sure tell the difference between brothers like you - who have done it - and those who sure like to act.
Such a good video...Thank You Matt!
@@pdxRoberge You’re welcome!
Holy smokles...that was the best summary of great tips. concepts and products I have ever seen for backpacking in the new millennium. Thanks SO much.
@@geraldhenrickson7472 Hey! It was easy!
Super solid list! I was chuckling as you listed out the tent, backpack and quilt and they were nearly identical as what I currently run, also after years of careful refinement. My pack is the frameless version (would love to compare to the framed one someday) but does what I need and is far more comfortable than the 2400 (which I also have, for short trips with the kids where I need to carry more). We must think alike, I also have some of the Ruta Locura stakes, which I hardly ever see mentioned anywhere. 🙂
Ruta!!!!
Interesting point about mesh base layers. As a cyclist, I use them, even in hot conditions when just a jersey might seem a better option and they are great. I’d never thought about using one for backpacking.
Give it a go!
Matt, I’m add weight my pack this summer. Tired of not being able to sleep so I got the Helinox Cot light. Love it so far. Also bring an Cezve for boiling water and making Turkish coffee.
You can add whatever your little heart wants!!!
I bring my German Shepard. She is a wonderful camping/hiking companion. She has a harness with molle pouches on each side and pulls a Burley cart. She helps carry the gear and security.
Hiking buddy!!
As a cyclist i have been using these mesh layers made from Polypropylen for a long time, my experience is that as some high temperatures they stop being beneficial, just because the added material on your skin starts heating you and makes you sweat faster. Maybe it's because in cycling you have more wind at higher speed and the high wind will just cool everything, but now the mesh works against this.
I find them great for using when in cycling where the difference between the temperatures and energy you produce is so high. So you cycle down a hill at 70km/h and do 0 energy and will be cold or you cycle up a hill at 6km/h and do 500Watts. You can fine tune you temperature in small steps with these, and they are great when you have to sweat in cold conditions.
Hi. How open are the holes? For high heat I want to test even more open holes. Like true fishnet sized openings
@@MattShafter I have different sizes, one like you show i the Video. i don't remember any pros wearing them anymore.
I think the big difference is that cycling jersey are worn ultraright and are already made with that in mind. Modern ones are basically already kind of a fishnet.
@@MattShafter on Brynje website's the warmer the weather, the thighter the mesh is apparently. Which is, WEIRD.
Long time fan of yours. This is one of the most informed gear break down videos I’ve ever seen in the industry.
Woooooo thanks. I think it’s fun to look at the whole pack and not just single pieces of gear!
My deepest heartfelt condolences to you and your family on the loss of your Dad. Regarding your channel, I would support you more with contributions if I could, but my trail name should literally be something like ‘Spare Change’, as that’s how I’ve saved up for most of my backpacking gear. You know I’m here for whatever type of videos you make. As are many of your followers. Take care, Dan.
Sincerely,
BJ
Thank you Dan!
My hiking and camping days are over, but I still like to keep up with the latest advice and equipment. Thanks!
You bet!
Always appreciate your informative videos and learning about alternative gear no one else talks about! Keep up the good work!
They don’t talk about the other gear, because you can’t make money off of it! Thanks Zach!
This guy its at least one of the smartest gear list around. Immidiatly when he mention the consider of the Dyneema tent I knew this was something else. Including that BRS stove. Thank god for carrying a map as well.
However the shoe should not fit out of the box, because if you get a shoe that fit the same size you wear dress shoes for example, I can assure you you gonna get blisters ans heels problems, in Wirth case loose your toe nails. One thumb rule, is at least a finger bigger. Trust me I am a professional on this term with 30 years of experience and worked also at a store.
The Torrid Synthentic jacket is also not very reliable on wet emergency days where you're more likely soaked in heavy rain. Test it go to the shower, get out, and try to out that jacket on. I had hypothermia once I got stuck on a storm and had to put a shelter. Me and my wife could almost don't put that jacket on. Eventually we did.
Alllllll my ideas are stolen lol
That mesh top is cool! Interesting suggestions as always. Thanks Matt!
Thanks!
This is an excellent, informative video that gives great explanations on the "why" of gear selections aside from just trail weight. Well done. Given that my hiking and camping trips are a little less extreme I don't think I'd ever need to go quite this light, but I have room for improvement and there are some great gear options and creative ideas for systems here (love the pillow build, and these rain protection options would be a great area for me to knock off some bulk and weight). The gear descriptions and links earned this video a save. The righteous slappage of Bluetooth speaker hikers earned you a subsciber.
Hahaha thanks for the kind words!
Long time fan of yours. This is one of the most informed gear break down videos I’ve ever seen in the industry. Phenomenal job!
Woooooo Thanks
Your pillow system is genius (or at least it seems to be). I'm about to try it out in about a week.
It works for me, but I’m excited to hear how it works out for you!
All this for 5 easy payments of an arm and a leg.
I tallied up what this all cost in 2021 and it was only $400 more than the AVERAGE PCT hiker spends. I’m honestly ok with that. Now, post covid inflation? Yeh, that’s bad, but I’ve collected this stuff over 8+ years.
Yeah but it doesn’t seem like this was all bought at once or anything. All of us are spending a ton on trial and error alone
@@powerpuff4ever too true
Man I've seen 100 of these vids. This was the best one. Very well done. Very good rational. I'm not sure the pillow is a perfect solution for me but I absolutely love the ingenuity and conceptually I think you're really on too something is it actually comfy who knows.
Wow, thanks Tweedy!
Thx again, Matt. I’m always learning new things on your channel. I don’t know any other YT accounts that have the kind of eye for detail in gear choices like you do. Cheers.
No problem! I do tend to think, and probably over think, gear.
I always camped alone and never really talked to people who camped so I just didn't notice all the gear over the past 20 years. I live in Ohio and usually go south to the smokies or up to the lake. Red river gorge was a nice place till people found out about it . I'm Genx, and use my grandpas gear and old cold war leftovers. A waxed tarp, wool blanket and sleeping bag. I use my work boots (I replace them often at work to look nice) so I know I'm good feet wise I'm particular about my footware.
I carry around a 50+ pound tool bag all day and frankly I'm a fairly large and strong man (6'2" ) who works a trade so my 25 year old alum frame pack could hold another camper but I am getting older and the new gear looks nice, the old tarp is reliable, I know I'll be ok in the strongest winds and weather, but it's heavy.
I'm stubborn about my heavy wool sleeping bag which weighs as much as your kit, I just don't like synthetic material and prefer winter camping. The water filters are really nice to have , I did upgrade to that the first time I saw them. It was a game changer, no more spending nights boiling water for the next day.my light pack is just a wool blanket my fire kit, a knife, water, food, a pan and some cord. 7.5 lbs is amazing to me (I've hiked many miles with 75 but I do usually camp for an extended time and in winter)
Thanks for introducing me to this style of camping.
I like your style too!
The very best gear videos. And the best presentation.
Wow, thanks!
For a cup replacement lid you can use a thick piece of aluminum. I started doing that for backpacking trips. It can be unreliable for multi-night outings though.
Yesssss that's always a good solution
I’ve been packing a plant now for some years. I go with a light weight lime tree that I bonsai down for my ultralight pack. I’ve only had one bad incident when a person I thought was just another friendly trader stole my whole harvest. I got him back just as trail pirates came upon us and I was able to snap his trecking poles on my way by leaving him stranded on the trail.
@@Maki-y5y the whole harvest people!!!!
Thanks soft the great video, Matt! I have the X-Mid Pro 1 tent too, and I love it, except for the fact that it is completely translucent! Not only do I feel exposed when changing clothes in a group camp situation, but the moonlight and sunlight shines right through it. I can clearly see the moon and headlamps of other campers through my tent, which makes it difficult to sleep without a mask. Other than that, I like it.
Ahhhh tis true! thanks sir!
Love the list. My only complaint, well more of a warning: Sunscreen sticks are still supposed to be physically rubbed in to insure full coverage. This may sound like a "this will never happen to me", but its fairly easy to miss spots with a sunscreen stick because your applied lines don't perfectly overlap and you end up with a zebra pattern sunburn. I would just say either be extremely meticulous when applying, or physically rub the applied area to spread out evenly which is recommended on a lot sunscreen stick packaging.
Also, interested in if you've seen GearSkeptic's (great backpacking channel) video "Backpacker Fact-Checker, #3: Inflating a pad with your breath". He goes over how he's seen no evidence of mold ruining a pad, but rather, the spotting people see and assume mold is a heat reflective coating flaking off on the inside. It's a very good video and I highly recommend it as it covers a lot more topics than just that.
Ahhhhhh I’ll have to check that gear skeptic out! That guy is awesome.
I still rub on the sunscreen stick, I just thought it was less messy.
@@MattShafterI think the takeaway is that mould isn’t really a concern but moisture may degrade the insulation nonetheless.
I love that little turntable thing you put stuff on to showcase them. Almost reminds me of equipment screens in video games.
lol. I didn’t even think about that but you’re right!
That pillow, mindblowing!
Woooooooooo. It’s a good one!
Anyone else remember the BattleRattle days of this channel? Good stuff as always.
I found a Sierra Designs High Route FL 1 last year on sale for $154. Best deal ever and it also uses offset poles and has a smaller footprint than the Durston tents. Another good budget option.
@@philjohnson1281 Whoa! I’m not even sure I remember the Battle Rattle days! Still my favorite gaming handle!
I always appreciate when one of your videos pops up in my feed. Always sensible gear and good recommendations. Keep up the good work.
I appreciate that!
I really appreciate how you have both measurements for people who might not use Fahrenheit as where I live we don’t really use Fahrenheit very often
No worries!!
Its been a while Matt! But you made up for it with this video! Awesome review! Thank You 😊
My pleasure!
I appreciate your personable candor. Especially in the description. I realized that a visor with a silk head gaiter works best for me. I tried a hat but a pumpkin head prevents comfortability.
Glad it was helpful!
Nice kit and I love the extra scientific explanations!
Glad you like it!
Im a motorcycling camper, who's learning from the ultralight folks. Digging your approach 👍
Right on! Every square inch matters for you!
Excellent choices and advice. I like zippers on my layers, too: Wider comfort range.
I add front zips to ponchos and arm or torso vents to jackets, too.
Am I wrong for wanting a 30-inch-wide pad (and tents that will fit it/them)?
In Thermarest made a 30in wode Xlite it would be so good.
Came here to see what you're using for a quilt now. I picked up a Nunatak Arc UL years ago right after your thorough review vid (don't see it now?). Continues to serve me well after many many years and thousands of miles, but the imo slightly annoying pad attachment system and velcro footbox closure that snags my socks has me checking in on your setup (plus they didn't do the side elastic option then). Great updates, as usual. Some of these comments have me like 'y'all need to put some respect on one of the OG ULs out there.'
Hi Marce! Now that Nunatak makes the Sastrugi, I am going to get one. My fiance got one and it's just tremendous. The Sastrugi is in all reality two quilts in one. There's is the warmer 28F side and I estimate the other side to be about 38-45F (I still want to test that though.) Plus NO DRAFTS, NO Stupid cords or straps. Quilts were designed to save weight, but in 2024 the 30F Katabatic Palisade with the cords weighs 22.2oz (in my size) but a Sastrugi in my size weighs only 19.6oz. The Sastrugi is also easier to make, so it costs less.
@@MattShafter Right on. I feel loyal to Nunatak despite the aforementioned niggles bc it's really a quality product, but my 2025 goals are to reduce/eliminate the fiddly-factor as much as possible with everything, and straps are def in that category. Looking forward to your review of the Sastrugi!
You got my subscription when you promised to smack the speaker-blarers on the trails. Happy hiking, my friend!
We’re in this together!!! Lol
Always excited to see your videos. One of the very few channels I can come to and always concisely learn something new, and know the information is super well processed. Really the only person recommending gear that I feel I can actually trust to fit that sweet-spot of lightweight yet still comfortable/durable. Thanks man!
Awesome, thank you!
Thank you for mentioning the soap bit - The amount of folks that think hand sanitizer does it all is far too high.
For sure! Thanks for commenting!
Matt, I'm so glad your video came up in my suggestions. You've produced one of the most well thought out, well produced, but still concise review of hiking gear that I've ever seen. Thanks for doing what you do, but more than that, thanks for inspiring some upgrades to my own gear.
Awesome! Thank you!
The pillow was like wahhhhhhhhh!
She's a beut!
Being a new backpacker, I’ve dabbled into all the ultralight UA-camrs for any advice I could get. Your channel has been the most influential for me for broadening how I think about gear scientifically while also showing the importance of multifunctional options. This video has given me some new ideas to play around with as well. P.S I graduate DPT school this December too!
Wooooooo thanks for the kind words! Congrats on being near graduating!!!
One of the most well made video on UL loadout
Thanks!
Love the pillow idea. Turns the inflatable pillow I already had from 'ok', to 'pretty comfy'.
sleeping bag stuff sack, I don't know why this is a secret.
Perfect!
Missed you! Glad you came back!😊
Yay! Thank you!
Hey Matt! Great gear list. You've given me some good ideas -- I really like your pillow setup with your down jacket in particular. I noticed you mentioned you've had two pads ruined by mold. Another channel I follow, Gear Skeptic, was looking into the possibilities of mold inside pads and couldn't find any examples of actual mold in the pad. Often, what appears to be mold is actually the breakdown and flaking of reflective and insulating material inside the pad. This can cast shadows that look like mold from the outside. Have you thrown these pads away? I'd be interested to know how you noticed the mold growth, and how certain you were that was the problem. I'm debating whether or not to purchase a pump for my sleeping pad, and the insight from an experienced hiker would be very helpful. Thanks!
Yessssssss the mold has been mentioned. I hadn’t seen that video! Thanks
Good list. Some original ideas to consider. Particularly, I just started experimenting with a a Brynje mesh base-layer in the cold months, but have been wondering about its applicability in warm weather. Will definitely give this a go now. Thanks!
Yup! Just be sure the humidity is right, I didn't emphasize that enough.
For sure - my primary trip is an extended trip in the high-Sierra this year. Some portions of SHR with JMT, so that's the target. I'll experiment in hopefully low-humidity days in early spring in the Blue Ridge here on the East Coast. I would also use the OR Echo on top of that for warm weather.
Fishnet or Mesh undershirts and bottoms have been around since at least WW1. I have been wearing fishnet under garments since the late 1960. The best ones are made my Brynje and now once again available in the USA. Once available at REI. Did you miss speak when you said that the moister on the skin passes through the holes to the outer layer? The moister on the skin wicks on the mish and changes state from liquid to vapor and passes to the outer layer or the open air. The 3/8 inch openings in the mesh with a mid layer become dead air spaces and insulate. (dead air is a great insulator). With a ventilation layers. i.e. open front shirt, ventil shirt, no shirt allows the escaping vapor to evaporate to cool the body. Good presentation on light weight gear. I'm fascinated by the present-day obsession with How light can I go? My obsession has always been how long will it last? Can I use it on a cross-country ski trip, kayaking, biking hiking etc. Occam's Razer has always been my guide. The simplest solution is always the best solution. But it is all about what works for you. Whatever it takes to inspire you to get out and enjoy whatever it is that you go outdoors to do. Fish, photography, counting miles, enjoy a sun set. Just remember to put a feather in your hat band as a reminder to tread lightly on the earth. Your framed backpack brought back memories of me back packing with my two oldest sitting on top my frame pact hanging on for dear life as we went down or up the trail, sleeping on closed 1/4 inch closed cell foam pads. Firing up our Seva 123, and nesting Sig pots, which are going out with me in the next few weeks after 50 plus years in service.
Hi! I didn't misspeak about sweat evaporating off the skin. Certainly on my Castelli mesh summer shirt, some small percentage of sweat will get wicked by the fabric. But the shirt holes are so open, alot of sweat will never reach fabric. It will phase change to vapor not long after it emerges from the body. Google "70 years have passed since Hillary and Tenzing climbed Mt. Everest" and go to the Brynje page. Look how those 1953 garment holes are even WIDER than what brynje currently offers. The holes are so wide; even less chance of sweat getting wicked. I actually messaged Brynje and said they need to make the summer mesh shirt holes WIDER, for even less wicking and more skin evaporating. Sweat evaporating on the skin is the Rolls Royce of cooling. It's why in ancient Africa we lost our hair, made more sweat glands and dominated the heat.
I do understand that the mesh creates dead space, but only if the layer above doesn't allow for convection. The system I speak must have a VERY breathable sun hoody to work.
I'll put that feather in my cap! Thank you!
@@MattShafter Maybe something was lost in the translation in my remarks and maybe lack of clarity. The mesh underlayer works in two ways. In the winter the holes have a mid layer over them that holds in the trapped warm air yet allowing moisture to move away from the skin to the outer layers to dissipate, preventing a drop in temperature of the core. In warm weather, by allowing for ventilation to the core using a ventilation shirt or opening the front of the shirt moisture can rapidly dissipate by evaporation creating a cooling effect. I Wear my mesh shirt year around from -20 F to 110 F and take advantage of the thermal properties of wearing mesh and its heat regulation properties.
My experience with the Durston 1 person is quite different from yours. I'm 6'2" and weigh 210 lbs and found it to be constrictive, almost claustrophobic, like every other 1 person tent I've used. So I shelled out for a Z Packs 2 person shelter.
You know what? The Aeon Li was my last 1 person shelter and that made me swear them off. Cause that WAS a coffin, i don't care how many pics they showed with 6'11" guy in there. Maybe that's coloring my ideas?
I’m 6’1” and 205lbs and fit fine in the xmid1 pro.
Nice kit. My base weight is about 8 pounds and I have everything I could ever need. That said the only thing I am still on the fence about is my DCF tent. I live on the East Coast and the trails can be super wet, endless rain and condensation has been a real issue. I have thought about going back to my Tiger Wall. It certainly weighs more but I never had any condensation issues. Take care
That's why I love cross breeze tents! Out East is hard!
Cool that this is popping up, looking forward Matt!
Thank you! Lots of changes this year!
Thanks. Another helpful video. I've dialed down my total weight (less consumables) carried in the pack and worn by watching your videos. Base weight is now 9.5 pounds (yeah me!). I carry a mixture of retail bought packaged foods (heavily discounted at Sierra Trading Post and a lot less than at REI) and my own home made meals based on Skurka's recipes. Eliminating the air in the Backcountry brand meals helps some with weight and drastically cuts down on overall volume so more fits in the bear canister. That all said, I'm planning on a total weight near (lower than?) 20 lbs for my upcoming JMT through Hike. Again, thanks for another great video.
That's good! I've always said, getting light strarts to feel really good around 12lbs. Have fun on the JMT!
Another excellent , informative video !! Thanks Matt, I'm going to be rethinking some of my gear and perhaps change some things !!
Cool. Let me know what you change.
This is seriously impressive! Thank you for a great video and a fantastic overview of all the gear with weights. And thank you for making it available in metric as well :)
I’m all about metric! 🧐
Because of your Montbell secrets video, I am now a Montbell addict!! I now have a wardrobe. Thanks😊
Such an amazing brand
In case you haven't seen it Trail Stuff makes a Trailbrush that weighs 2g and attaches to the end of a toaks titanium spoon.
Also, sunscreen sticks should not be used for the primary application of sunscreen, only for touchups, its nearly impossible to get even coverage with a stick. And another nerdy btw European imported sunscreen (UVMUNE 400 is goated) is MUCH better than American sunscreen whose last UV filter ingredient was approved decades ago.
This is the only video I’ve ever had UA-cam alert me to watch with a reminder. Your OG full comfort video changed my view on what was possible and this one only built on it with the wisdom youve acquired over the years.
See you back here in another few years then! Looking forward to it!
Wait! I'm still here! Just making trails videos no one wants to see yet. lol
I'd also just really like to personally thank you for putting to rest the debate I've been waging in my head for literal YEARS now; hand sanitizer vs. soap. When in doubt I've opted for soap (even if I very seldom use it), but I know there are a handful of famous UL hikers out there who are still pushing hand sanitizer, hence I've often second guessed myself. The way I've seen it, if both liquids are of equal weight, soap can do everything hand sanitizer does, but hand sanitizer cannot do everything soap does. One leaves your hands smelling nice, the other like rubbing alcohol. Just never understood the preference for sanitizer over soap.
I have used mesh for decades. I buy from Wiggys. Nothing bad about it. Fantastic in cool to cold weather
I should try wiggys!
@@MattShafter I dont really use him for back packing stuff, too heavy and bulky. Car camp, oh hell yeah. Be sure to read about his insulation and how he rates his bags. I have two bags, a coat, and a few other bits.
Huge fan of Octa! Have one stuffed in my day backpack. Very versatile
Honestly I wish they would make a slightly heavier version!
@@MattShafterwhat would you say if I could get you a super warm Octa 140 Hoody 👀
I think your Leukotape on Silicone Paper hack is the most overlooked by backpackers. I love Leuko. BUT Leuko only comes on huge rolls and removing it from the roll "activates" the adhesive. I did the ubiquitous unraveling from a roll and turning it around a treking pole to find that it had practically welded itself, to itself. I have no confidence in reusing the tape off my treking pole on the trail. Is that why you went with applying it to silcone paper? I take a full roll because I think it won't have the same adhesion if I take it off the roll before hiking to reduce weight.
Yes, with the silicone release paper trick that effect is diminished! Never had a problem.
I apply mine in precut strips to wax paper or the leftover backing paper of labels that I’ve ran out of and both work great. Haven’t had an issue yet with losing adhesive strength.
Yeah, desperately holding up our durston 2p up with my husband as our tent swam in water (did stay water proof mostly tho) during a prolonged storm in the night really didn't sell me on a trecking pole tent.😂 Back to a 70$ 4 lb one i got on Amazon 🤷🏼♀️
Oh boy!
Awesome. I am at 7.5 pounds with backpack, tent, and sleeping bag. Impressive review.
I bet you’re still out there having fun!
Great video! Wallaby bags were new to me.
Thanks for watching!
The cadence and inflection in your voice reminds me of Patrick Bateman 😂🤣🤣. Great vid!👍Great explainations on the gear!
Wow! Lol
It is just so hard to purchase 3" men's shorts these days. The Americanization of men's shorts in New Zealand drives me up the wall.
You must have put in a crazy amount of hours researching to put this together so well🔥I'm not even interested in camping, but it was awesome to watch. I love high-quality gadgets, and it would be cool to see what you use on a daily basis
Glad you enjoyed it!
I'm so glad to hear that you, an UL hiker, brings paper maps, a compass, somewhat of a knife, extra matches, and you know how to use them. I just feel that way too many zombie walkers (the over the top, extremist type of UL hikers) are very careless and dangerous when they don't bring anykind of fall back equipment. They depend too much on their phone and just assume that nothing will ever happen to them. You even see a lot of UA-cam UL hikers actually put down the concept of bringing a compass and map, or anykind of emergency fall back equipment, and will call it stupid and pointless! Which is such a wrong message and influence to be telling beginner hikers. It really bothers me and makes me mad when I hear them doing that, and it seems to happen more and more within the extreme UL community nowadays.
Honestly reading a map is a good way to keep your mind occupied!
Hey Matt, I always can go to you to get the latest and greatest ultralight and other gear.. I watched this weeks ago but just didn't comment at this time.. Fantastic views and comments that are well deserved.. I dont think I have ever learned as much in 30 mins.... great edit and put together of the video too... Definitely one of the very best videos I have watched in a long time... Best wishes Tom
Woooooo thanks for the comments. I can always go to you to find ACTUALLY weatherproof tents. You should be able to get a full nights sleep in your tent, so you have to trust it. That’s where you come in. I actually want you to put a flat top on a truck and just drive hilleberg tents around at 60mph. Viral video every time lol. DO IT!
Geeez this was the most helpful gear video I think I’ve ever watch! Thanks for all the genius ideas and info on the gear you use . So great!
Glad you enjoyed it!