Hi,I've just turned 61,I did a couple of nights will my 2 children at Callow Top in Ashbourne about 20 years ago,I'm now considering which tent to buy,you have now convinced me the vern 1 is the one thanks for your content
Watched your channel a lot Dave, never commented directly albeit I have cross-chatted with you on Andy Park's channel. I like your output, it's very well presented and I actually bought a Simond Makalu on your recommendation (Despite having a good few mountain ready tents already). I have an expedition tent by a now defunct Norwegian company called Nanok. It robustness and quality is outstanding........the Norwegians know what they are doing in that dept and the Vern looks exceptionally robust also. Around 50 years ago my dad started me on Scottish mountains and I've been hooked since childhood. Summit camping came in my early 20s. It's the utter freedom of spirit and the awsome beauty of nature Dave. That's what drives it all. That is why we lean this multi disciplined pursuit of "Mountaincraft". There's nothing quite like it. ATB from North of the wall.
Hello my friend, ahh Scotland, the land of the free. Yes I miss using the \makalu, its a great tent and fabulous value.I would love to use it again given the chance. I had my son and his mate in it recently, ideal for them , warm and tough. Thanks for your notes about appreciated nature, fantastic stuff. i just wish I had chance to get to Scotland this winter.
Hi Dave, great review there! When I was in junior school I was very lucky to have a teacher named Jan Scott, the wife of yep Doug Scott and this was exactly the time when he climbed Everest! So you can imagine which poster I had signed on my bedroom wall… Anyway this set me off in my teens to do lots of climbing,hiking and backpacking all over Wales, never went further as I love Wales so much. Then life got in the way and I haven’t done anything for probably 30 years! Well I fined myself single again and in a position to get back into doing a bit of walking and backpacking. So I’ve spent weeks watching UA-cam and reviews of tents and kit! So now I’ve ordered the Nortent Vern 2, which looks an awesome bit of kit. To use basically as a base camp setup for now. To get used to setting up in somewhat controlled conditions of a site or short walk to wild camp. Then if I enjoy it as much as I used to I will look at something lighter to be able to do some proper wild camping and hiking again.. The vern 1 looks to be a great tent for that too. Not sure I’m ready for that extreme winter camp just yet, but once I get back into it then bring it on. Thanks for the video and apologies for the long comment.. Andrew
That's Amazing! I can only imagine the vibe in the classroom. I went to a talk by Doug Scott and got him to sign a poster. I looked into his eyes and held his gaze, trying to absorb his inner energy. He just looked a bit uncomfortable, and probably thought, why is this nobber staring at me! Don't apologise for the long comment, that was brilliant. In fact I just remembered I met his nephew on a parachuting course. I commented that he looked like Doug Scott, he then told me DS was his uncle and he had always aspired to be like him!
@@Fellmandave1 thanks. He came into school with all his kit for the expedition and set it all out on the playground. His son came too and another climber who sadly died in a skiing accident Dougal Haston. Yes the school was climbing crazy at the time. Even better my daughter went to the same school. For a short period before it closed. Any way I look forward to getting my Vern2 hopefully by the weekend or early next week, and I will be out in it at Easter! I’m going to the first site I ever camped at which is Beddgelert forest site. Although this time I’m driving there! First time I took the train to Porthmadog and walked the 8 miles to Beddgelert. With my huge backpack on.
@@Fellmandave1 yes and both so meek and humble guys. Sadly neither are with us anymore. I remember hearing the news about Douglas accident and absolutely sobbing. I was 9 at the time. Anyway enough rambling from me. I’ve just followed you on instagram too. I’ll definitely let you know how I get on with the new Vern2. So excited to be honest.
What a great test for the tent. Mind you Dave you put yourself through a lot to make a great video. So much information, given eloquently. I live your channel. Thank you & keep safe.
I messaged them at Nortent about the thicker poles and straight away they are sending them out to me, also I told them it's a great tent for the money and got the extra space inside unlike more expensive tents
Wise words regarding filling up your lighter with a decent gas. I made the rookie error of filling mine last week with normal clipper butane and of course the bloody thing was useless! Fortunately I carry matches too so I could still cook hot food and have a brew. Needless to say the first thing I did when I got home was to fill it with MSR Isopro. So top man for highlighting that, it's an easy thing to overlook. Oh, cool dog too. 👍
That was some quality rain but you got loads of sleep, lucky you! When I camped in the Cairngorms in December I only had 2 hours of sleep😭 the nortent tents do look good. Thanks
Great tip about the fuel in the Soto lighter, I'll also add that I take a Thermos Ultimate flask and fill it with boiling water the night before and wake up to nice hot water, even if it needs boiling again it'll take about a minute. Dog looked very cosy in the tent. Love these freezing camps when inside the tent, not the guy line checking though....
Thats a great video Dave and i always admire and appreciate all the efforts involved in making this type of video especially in these type of conditions. Also its good to see that you mentioned about thinking ahead and being prepared for things to get worse or go wrong ( Prepare for the worst and hope for the best ;) When i see videos where they go out in winter and take enough booze to put an Elephant on its back it baffles me At the end of the day though we are all very subjective when giving our thoughts and opinions on bits of gear and its erring on the side of coming across as being offensive or negative when you want to express an objective opinion. Personally i like simplicity and minimalism with any type of gear and it has to be able to withstand a good hiding too and quick to deploy be it a tent , sleeping bag , stove etc at the same time as being as light as possible. The more bells and whistles the more things to go wrong so for 4 season summit capable tents i wouldn't want more than one access point because that means more zips and more weight and more potentially vulnerable parts. It's great to see how this Vern 1 dealt with the condensation but the variables in UK conditions are so inconsistent that what works one day might not work the next as i often find out. Just the change of wind direction carrying more moist air can significantly change how the tents perform. Have you ever made any mods to any tents that have involved more pegging points or guy line points etc ? I know this would void the warranty but on some tents it would make a word of difference for very minimal weight gain. I would like to know if you have and who did it..Thanks for sharing.
Hi Olan, i get you on the variable condensation issue. As for guying points, I have made no significant changes, but i do carry extra guys for the ones available. Thanks for the elaborate comment!
@kneadedmassage9751 I can imagine! 2c, wet, with wind is the ideal hypothermia conditions. It's why we avoid tents with a mesh interior here. I would love to see more of Colorado. I had 2 weeks skiing in steamboat springs 30 years ago, brilliant!
Really enjoyed watching that. Thankyou. When melting snow, its best to put the water in the pot first and then add the snow on top. Will b more efficient and reduces the risk of burning the pot 👍
Great video there Dave, can’t wait for mine to come! Annoyingly purchased after receiving an email from the stockist saying they were back in stock, only to then get an automated email after purchase saying it was actually a pre-order. The wait continues 😁Looks absolutely flawless in challenging weather
You are an inspiration! I haven't been camping in years and with the help of UA-cam, the bug is returning. Being 4 years off 61, I thought maybe it was now too late, but clearly very much not! Just saving now for the gear. Keep up the great videos, and in return I'll also raise you a glass of [malt] whiskey!
Too late Tom? Get your ass out there! Interestingly I met three young guys who were returning after a day on the hills. They had soaked down jackets and one had plastic bags in his trainers and said his calves were cramping. They well meaningly advised I camp lower, I thanked them for their well meant advice and said that it wasn't my first time 'nasty' camping. So, don't underestimate your accumulated wisdom Tom. Use it and enjoy. Great to see youngsters out on the hills.
This is the second video of yours which I’ve watched, and as previous viewers have said, your narration is excellent, as is your own thoughts regarding equipment etc. Regardless of whether you have been sent gear or not, having a honest, informed review is what is important, especially if subscribers trust your opinions on items they may be considering to purchase. Thank you for taking us on your adventure. You have a new subscriber 😎
Great test of tent, man, dog and fish! Nice summary at the end. Experience and thus opinion will vary and no manufacturer is stone free of error now and then. Vern 1 appears as good as anything out there for dealing with the elements. I especially like the fact that the inner does not seem prone to flapping about as much as some others in windy conditions. That you could get a good night's sleep with all of that going on, says much.
This is a video all about using gear that many of us would find exciting, and overcoming personal challenges and mistakes in subzero conditions. Subzero not for 5min but an entire overnight in an exposed tent is always a challenge. I like so many tune in to share and learn. But if I may I would like to share why I have appreciated something that is only a footnote. The idea of tent fish in the glass bowl of a tightly sealed tent is a bit of fun that people who have been locked up overnight like that relate to. A bit of originality. Thx for posting.JMO
I came here from a facebook group where another guy was criticizing this tent. Great video and the tent seems really good for winter conditions. I'm trying to decide whether to buy the Nortent VERN 1 or MSR Access 2
I have got the Vern 1 and have used it extensively this winter with the new poles and it has been superb . I have used the trekking pole hack at times but probably not necessary. The slagging off it got has eased off but it was ridiculous and felt like a peeing up the wall competition as if owning a certain tent was an extension of a persons ego.
Fantastic filming under arduous conditions. Excellent advise for any potentially failures. Fully appreciate your advice on building up to these sorts of conditions . My reasoning for doing these wild camps is experiencing what you can achieve in harsh conditions , what is your mind and body capable of how do you perform under pressure , how can you keep yourself focussed on protecting yourself. This way I can teach other people to hopefully not make mistakes or at least be to be prepared to deal with the worse . Such a great video great advice. My vern one is at home and based on the two camps you have you have done gives me great confidence in the tent. Thank you
Thanks Steve, I guess it's only when you get to pressure points, you discover the 'leaks' in your system and psyche. Enjoy the tent and thanks for the comment and the you know what!
Brilliant, mate, absolutely brilliant, thanks for that! I've only just started being interested in over night stays for my history films and this has given me a lot of valuable insight.
@ I think I’ve watched all the Vern 1 videos at this point, ha ha. Been watching Vern 2 videos as well. Hoping I can get an updated pole set for the Vern 1. Climbing on top of a tent to demonstrate the pole structure is pretty rad.
@BackcountryExposure Nortent have been very responsive to customers' requests to have the updated pole set. Yes, the #climbyourtent gauntlet has been thrown down!
Been really enjoying your channel Dave looking forward to you reviewing vern 2 thinking of getting it for me and my son to enjoy some adventures this year nothing like the last video mind you it will be fair weather for us.
I love adventuring no matter the weather... but I really need to get my furbaby used to it, and also used to having her paw-knives trimmed. She apparently has no idea how sharp those little needles of hers are. Great video... I'm really looking forward to getting out camping again in my Verne 1 :) I love the design, but still prefer the weight of the original non-freestanding version over the freestanding version. But maybe that will change some day.
What an amazing trip and video absolutely loved it! Not sure on the wisdom of the fish dish 😂😂😂 ! Your videos are inspiring totally love them, keep up the outstanding work!
Hey Dave from across the pond! (Charlotte, NC WooHoo!) Great Video and Advice…i’ve “experienced” enough camp failures that I now have a problem, I tend to pack “my fears” and way overdue it, LoL! Ordered the Vern 1 and pulled the trigger this morning on the Vern 2 as well…i’m anxiously awaiting for them both (Leif with Nortent emailed me and said should be later this week) And You Sir just keep tackling and filming those treks to the summits, “Never Let The Old Man In” and you’ll be Forever Young! Hope to see a B-Day 61 video from you…I’ll make a request to “Mgmt” and hopefully they can arrange it for all the FellManDave fans.
Ay up in NC! Thanks for the detailed comment. It warms this young heart to see that you were listening and not skipping, mind you, I can't get my own family to watch it. I think they see enough of me!
Just ordered the Vern 2 today and looking at doing a review myself. Every time UK has had snow recently South Wales missed out, however the Brecon Beacons had snow Friday night just gone not forecast so I made no plans. I'm still waiting to do a snow camp. The weather conditions can kill if unprepared like you pointed out. Great video atb Taff 🤠👊
I have only watched 3 of your videos so far and have enjoyed them, just want to say a couple of things , trig points , the bits of concrete with metal on top weren't for the views , they were for trigonometry ! The maps we use to this day and we're genius for mapping out everything! You also didn't like the sight of land management on a grous moor but like the round house fortresses that really changed the landscape ! Burning stops wield fire, quarries and mines and land management in the past and present is what gives us the beautiful landscape that we all enjoy plus the wildlife we see . Game keepers and land management keep a balance and without them you wouldn't get the wonderful places that we get to enjoy Thank you for making the videos and I do love them ❤
Hi Colin, of course I know what trig points are or were for. The landscape we see Colin is a mono species upland farm. Yes, history, farming, and occupancy have shaped it. You have me as ignorant. Check out the revive campaign and raptor persecution. Then have a look at the recent Scottish muirburn Bill. I also know that rewilding is not so easy. But have a look at places where land management is different, such as great mell fell.
@@Fellmandave1 I have watched loads more of your videos and now understand your dry sense of humour, sorry I put the comment and please keep the videos coming 👍
Just a quick tip on melting snow. When collecting snow instead of using pots and pans (snow always reduces to approx 1/3 water sometimes less) Get yourself a "snow bag"-a large stuff sack is ideal. Collect loads of snow in bag and leave in vestibule. Take snow from "snow bag" Oh one last tip-do not use yellow snow!!
Great video. Do you have an aeropress? I never go anywhere without mine now. You can carry your supply of ground coffee inside the body of it in your rucksack.
Don't have one, I do have the nanopresso though. Just thought this was a lightweight all in one job. But you're right. I should try one. Thanks for commenting.
@Fellmandave1 The ability to make a really good cup of coffee when you are on your own, wet, cold and tired and in the middle of nowhere is one of life's great pleasures. Especially with a few McVities Dark Chocolate biscuits. 👌
Thank you for this good video. I have now seen the necessary video of the tent, and yes, I have just bought it. Hope my dog has enough room too. It's a Vizsla male
Hi Dave. I've recently discovered your channel and as a fellow 'senior' aged wildcamper I'm loving the content and your presentation. You mentioned you are about to hit 61? I will be 63 in a couple of weeks and having come back to wildcamping just 5 years ago I certainly have no intention in stopping anytime soon! My aim is to keep going to 70 and then re-evaluate! Anyway, I'm loving your subjective 'testing' of the Nortent Vern 1. For the past 5 years I've been using a British made Snugpak Scorpion 2 as my winter tent but to be honest although it's 'bullet' proof it really is only a small one person tent and I cannot justify the cost of the Hilleberg Soulo as my wildcamping area is Dartmoor. The Vern 1 looks a brilliant four season tent for the UK! Keep up the great videos. ATVB Graham (Sidestickflyer)
Will do Dave! Good luck with your silicone bag cook system. I use home made meals vacuum packed and frozen in BPA free plastic bags. Once at camp I simply put the bag in my Jetboil Sumo for 10 minutes! It works a treat every time with no danger of the contents decorating the inside of my rucksack! 😂
Looks more like the Caringorms than Northumberland, the border ridge is definitely a good tent testing ground! Is there enough room in the Vern 1 for the thermarest trekker chair then? Always a blessing for the long nights
I have thought of that but I think thats for prolonged and severe. It would drive her mental probably! I am sorting a bivi bag for her, for those stop and pitch times. Thanks for the suggestion!
Great video and a great tent. I'm considering the Vern 2 also, with the chimney slot. How well do you think that would have held up in those conditions with and without the stove? The stove for the Vern 2 I'm considering is the Pomoly Traveller which has a segmented fairly strong titanium pipe.
From what I can tell so far, the vern 2 will be more than up to it, but I am really not sure about a chimney. But to be fair i have never tried a stove pipe in strong winds. nortent may be able to advise you on max conditions. but i will be reviewing one soon so will be able to tell you more. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment. 😀
Great advice, great setup. Many thanks ❤ Do like the radiate type stove and had the Reactor but I did find it difficult to light in any wind, have you found the same?
@tur173 Yes Adam! From Blurton. I had a Saturday job in Hanley and spent every penny in Jo Royles and at the climbing club meet night in Leek. I was 17 and could buy 5 pints of lager for £2 ! Its that same boy that is in heaven with the gear I have nowadays. Thanks for commenting buddy.
@@Fellmandave1 It's like a Hilleberg Allak but half the price. Lighter materials of course but the sail material at the seams looks very strong and haven't seen anything like it before, so quite unique. Lots of space inside and 2 vestibules. My current small tent is the Robens Starlight 2, enough room for me and the dog but not much vestibule space. The Vern 1 looks quite narrow at the head and foot end, so wasn't sure about that. For easier hikes I have the Robens Voyager 2ex which is like a palace compared to the other, love the big vestibule. Also just bought a pair of KUIU Northstar mitts which I'm very impressed with, would go well with the tent!
Great video again mate. Your poor dog - every time you got out you left the door flaps wide open!! Does she ever feel the cold? I'm wondering how my black lab would get on with his shorter coat...
Thanks Andy, but she was well wrapped up all the time eh? But the only fault was at the start when pitching. She got herself ticked amongst the rocks, but I am experimenting with a bivi set up for her.
Great test for the tent ,I love a proper winter camp. How do you think your kuiu storm star would have held up in the same conditions. I'd love to see a comparison video.
Good question, I think it would have been fine but the kuiu is harder to pitch and those top vents and tge gap around the bottom do let stuff in. Check out my cairngorm video to see what I mean!
Hi Mich, that is an MSR windburner duo. Both are in the links in the description. The bags are in the cookware link, the stove is in the stoves link. Cheers and thanks for watching
I think if you’re prepared you can enjoy any camp, although did a few in Afghanistan I’d rather not have, neighbours were a bit…. aggressive… After many years trying to make good coffee in far flung places the best and easiest bit of kit I’ve found is a simple strainer. I think MSR do one called the mugmate, you just put your ground coffee in the strainer, drop it in your hot water, lift it out when ready and after a while just bash out the grinds. Problem with those plunger type coffee makers is the mess, they are also quite bulky. Obviously that’s why people like the aeropress but they are bulky and heavy too. Also I have to have a thermal mug. A good soldier always tries to have a hot drink stashed somewhere just in case, but also in winter hot drinks go cold quickly, and if you have a mug with a proper lid you aren’t gonna spill hot coffee all over your sleeping bag you’ve tied so hard to keep dry. That said, we like to rock it our own way, no rules on the hill! Another great vlog, thanks 👍
Thanks buddy. I have a strainer too, just can't seem to get it strong enough for me. Just though I would give it a go since I had the compatible pan. Thanks for the great comment!
"ah finally i'm in a bit of shelter. i ah am gonna sleep over here..." over here being more exposed area, that may lead to the tent failing (expected upcoming conditions? was the see breeze an inland gale? wind speed? which storm was it? how fast was that unlaiden swallow? i need to know.) however you got new sub, just because still informative.
Hi Dave super video. I’ve got the vern 2 on order after watching yours and a few other videos. I’m deliberating over ordering the vern 1 as well as again I’m impressed after watching your videos but just worried my sleep system won’t fit. I use an exped 5R LW which is 1970mm x 650mm. Do you know if it would fit with the tent tapering at each end please? I’ve looked at the sizing on the Nortent site but I think it’s external sizes that it’s showing me. It show the vestibule at 65cm and the sleep space at 135cm so if you take it that the tents symmetrical that implies there’s 70cm to spare at it’s narrowest but don’t want to make a costly mistake if it’s less. Do you know what the actual width is please of the internal bathtub base at its narrowest? Thank you 🤞
Hi Marc. I just got the inner out especially for you and measured it on the floor. At its narrowest points it is 50cm. The distance between those corners is 220cm. 10 cm in it opens up to around 58cm. You would fit in a 200cm x 60, just, but anything bigger. No. My 185 x 65 mat fits just nicely. Hope that helps!
@@Fellmandave1 brilliant Dave thank you that is very useful info. Thank you for taking the time to look at that for me. Watched the video with the inner taken out. Looks a good idea for summer as long as your smidged up.
Dave excellent video another positive outcome for the Vern1 What is your plan for seam sealing the tent? Mine arrived today with 20 pegs so your previous comments must have been heard by NORTENT
I think it was not just me, Bill, but Nortent does listen! I will be seam sealing it before long, if anything to help protect and strengthen the stitching, insurance.. . .
I would say to justify that type of adventure that its easy to camp out in the summer months but the weather is not always that forgiving and what experience do you have when the weather doesnt have so much of an promise? ..So I done an few winter camps on local hills with good amenities and in decent but nevertheless frozen conditions...everything went as planned and I'm no longer afraid to tackle such an adventure...but my advice is to always plan out well in advance know your pitch and never go beyond your bounds..One thing is for sure I was never so glad to get home after those camps yet I had no real appreciation for my flat in the first instance so in an round about fashion I can say the experience is certainly worthwhile even it if means that your glad and appreciative to get back to those mundane and uninteresting digs...because if your old place never meant much to you in the first place then after that it certainly will...
Thank you for a nice review of this tent. I live in Norway but have to admit I haven't tried Nortents yet. Have sticked to Hilleberg and Helsport all my life. And since tents are expensive I can't just buy new ones all the time to try them out. This Vern1 looks a lot like Hilleberg Soulo and it's obvious Nortent have almost copied that concept and design and just changed it a little bit. Guess Hilleberg isn't much happy about that. But anyways, I have the Soulo and I am a little disappointed with it because of bad ventilation and tiny vestibule, there is only one vent on top of the tent but there should be at least one on each short end of the tent in my opinion. The Vern looks like there is more room inside both for equipment(+dog) and cooking in the vestibule, is that correct? And is the height almost identical inside or?
I was about to buy the Vern 2 for me and my dog but it seems like the Vern1 is okay also. My pup is 21 pounds. You think we'd be comfortable in this tent?
I'm considering pulling the trigger on the vern 2 today. Do you think it's worth the money from what you make of it so far? I was looking at the fjallraven keb dome but the vern looks perfect! Really enjoyed your videos on the tent so far. Thanks :)
I'd love to do some wild camping like that, but living in West London there doesn't appear to be anywhere even remotely close that permits wild camping. :(
Hi Kana. No I don't worry for her. It was just short exposure and she has a good coat. Plus she is out, twice a day in all weather's and is an ex Romanian stray. Not as domesticated as she looks. I look after her, but thanks for your comment and concern.
Hi John, can i ask why? I have been thinking of doing a comparison video, but not sure if there is a point. Vern 2 is stronger, has better internal volume, but, of course, weighs more.
@@Fellmandave1 hi mate, was just looking for anyones view really on the extra weight , I tab a lot generally over couple of days obv camp in between, I’m on a telemark but really like these verns….
Hello, I'm brand new to your excellent channel. I like your style so wanted to make a point, not a criticism. I'm trying to get back to backpacking before I'm too old. When I was Young, all the advice when camping was to stay low and well sheltered when pitching a tent. Well as you know, summit camping is very popular now. I've been out in the most extreme conditions possible where no tent would stand, even in a valley. I know if you're more or less guaranteed the weather it shouldn't be a problem. But seeing some camped high in the Cairngorms middle of winter is far too risky for me. I have Chris Townsend s dvd, The Cairngorms in Winter. There's a scene of him camped high in one of these tipi tens with a walking pole. No inner tent, the base opens to the weather. Highly dangerous? However I have camped in severe weather where I was as sheltered as possible. Anyway I think I'll be buying vern 1 for myself. Looks like a tank. Regards
Hi Ham! Thanks for you comment. I just think exposed camping is part of the adventure in this far too controlled in sanitised world. Enjoy the Vern 1, its excellent.
@@Fellmandave1 No one is trying to control where anyone camps. It's just common sense advice . The weather can be very dangerous. However in this day and age of constant updates it's probably less of a risk . Great channel. Regards
Ideal conditions for hypothermia is 2-5c and rain and a little breeze, you can dress for below zero and a breeze but you cant dress for rain.Even the best gore tex or whatever text wont hold you dry for very long and when you are wet you are done. the numbers are taken from the Norwegian army and collected over 60 years and those conditions are when Norwegian soldiers get hypothermia. Not when its -40 etc.
@@Fellmandave1Yes and you had plenty gear so no wonder less experienced people die from conditions like that. Sadly there will always come new less experienced people so all we can do is make sure we are able to handle ourself when we are out hiking.
@@MrKveite1 thank you I understand now, ironically there were 3 yound guys on the way down. They were nearly back but one had trainers on, with plastic bags inside and his legs were cramping up. they all had down jackets on that were soaked. They did not need asisstance, good to see yound people out though--learning.
I live in the lakes and these conditions are very common, I learned years ago that wool and quality synthetics are better than down products for the simple fact that they will still provide warmth even when wet and damp. Even in Mildy damp conditions I've seen down gear failing after a few days due to damp and humidity or their performance severely degraded. Might be okay in dry and overnight ers but are terrible for multi day in wet or humid conditions and have no fallback once they fail. I disagree with the Goretex comments, as long as you use quality garments and keep them in good shape and treated they will keep you dry, I've used ME Gore Pros shell for years, used on multi day hikes in torrential rain and they haven't failed me, they will keep you 90% dry (there's always some drippage), usually its sweat build up or lack of care of the garment (wet out) that makes you wet, in 25 years I've never had a problem, but always use quality gear and retreat it a couple times a year. eVent on the other hand is consistently terrible whenever I've owned it.
Hi,I've just turned 61,I did a couple of nights will my 2 children at Callow Top in Ashbourne about 20 years ago,I'm now considering which tent to buy,you have now convinced me the vern 1 is the one thanks for your content
I just turned 60 I understand the feeling of being back home out there too, enjoy 👍❤️
Cheers Mark. You too!
Watched your channel a lot Dave, never commented directly albeit I have cross-chatted with you on Andy Park's channel. I like your output, it's very well presented and I actually bought a Simond Makalu on your recommendation (Despite having a good few mountain ready tents already). I have an expedition tent by a now defunct Norwegian company called Nanok. It robustness and quality is outstanding........the Norwegians know what they are doing in that dept and the Vern looks exceptionally robust also. Around 50 years ago my dad started me on Scottish mountains and I've been hooked since childhood. Summit camping came in my early 20s. It's the utter freedom of spirit and the awsome beauty of nature Dave. That's what drives it all. That is why we lean this multi disciplined pursuit of "Mountaincraft". There's nothing quite like it. ATB from North of the wall.
Hello my friend, ahh Scotland, the land of the free. Yes I miss using the \makalu, its a great tent and fabulous value.I would love to use it again given the chance. I had my son and his mate in it recently, ideal for them , warm and tough. Thanks for your notes about appreciated nature, fantastic stuff. i just wish I had chance to get to Scotland this winter.
Good man Dave good to see you living a life worth living,hardship is were its at...
@dougiebicker6458 mostly true!
Hi Dave, great review there!
When I was in junior school I was very lucky to have a teacher named Jan Scott, the wife of yep Doug Scott and this was exactly the time when he climbed Everest! So you can imagine which poster I had signed on my bedroom wall… Anyway this set me off in my teens to do lots of climbing,hiking and backpacking all over Wales, never went further as I love Wales so much. Then life got in the way and I haven’t done anything for probably 30 years! Well I fined myself single again and in a position to get back into doing a bit of walking and backpacking. So I’ve spent weeks watching UA-cam and reviews of tents and kit! So now I’ve ordered the Nortent Vern 2, which looks an awesome bit of kit. To use basically as a base camp setup for now. To get used to setting up in somewhat controlled conditions of a site or short walk to wild camp. Then if I enjoy it as much as I used to I will look at something lighter to be able to do some proper wild camping and hiking again.. The vern 1 looks to be a great tent for that too. Not sure I’m ready for that extreme winter camp just yet, but once I get back into it then bring it on.
Thanks for the video and apologies for the long comment.. Andrew
That's Amazing! I can only imagine the vibe in the classroom. I went to a talk by Doug Scott and got him to sign a poster. I looked into his eyes and held his gaze, trying to absorb his inner energy. He just looked a bit uncomfortable, and probably thought, why is this nobber staring at me!
Don't apologise for the long comment, that was brilliant. In fact I just remembered I met his nephew on a parachuting course. I commented that he looked like Doug Scott, he then told me DS was his uncle and he had always aspired to be like him!
@@Fellmandave1 thanks. He came into school with all his kit for the expedition and set it all out on the playground. His son came too and another climber who sadly died in a skiing accident Dougal Haston. Yes the school was climbing crazy at the time. Even better my daughter went to the same school. For a short period before it closed.
Any way I look forward to getting my Vern2 hopefully by the weekend or early next week, and I will be out in it at Easter! I’m going to the first site I ever camped at which is Beddgelert forest site. Although this time I’m driving there! First time I took the train to Porthmadog and walked the 8 miles to Beddgelert. With my huge backpack on.
Douglas Haston too! Be sure to let me know how you get on with the vern my friend.
@@Fellmandave1 yes and both so meek and humble guys. Sadly neither are with us anymore. I remember hearing the news about Douglas accident and absolutely sobbing. I was 9 at the time.
Anyway enough rambling from me. I’ve just followed you on instagram too. I’ll definitely let you know how I get on with the new Vern2. So excited to be honest.
@andrewwilliams864 I've subscribed to you Andrew. Challenge you to put a Vern 2 video up!
What a great test for the tent. Mind you Dave you put yourself through a lot to make a great video. So much information, given eloquently. I live your channel. Thank you & keep safe.
Glad you enjoyed it and yes, I thought that at one point too!
I messaged them at Nortent about the thicker poles and straight away they are sending them out to me, also I told them it's a great tent for the money and got the extra space inside unlike more expensive tents
Wise words regarding filling up your lighter with a decent gas. I made the rookie error of filling mine last week with normal clipper butane and of course the bloody thing was useless! Fortunately I carry matches too so I could still cook hot food and have a brew. Needless to say the first thing I did when I got home was to fill it with MSR Isopro. So top man for highlighting that, it's an easy thing to overlook. Oh, cool dog too. 👍
Cheers Dudley, Honey is the best.
That was some quality rain but you got loads of sleep, lucky you! When I camped in the Cairngorms in December I only had 2 hours of sleep😭 the nortent tents do look good. Thanks
Being I'm a tent seems to calm the savage beast in me Ben. Will see if you have a video of that sleepless night up. Thanks for watching!
That is a true test of the tent. I will get a Vern 1 for my longer solo treks.
Great choice Simon!
Great tip about the fuel in the Soto lighter, I'll also add that I take a Thermos Ultimate flask and fill it with boiling water the night before and wake up to nice hot water, even if it needs boiling again it'll take about a minute. Dog looked very cosy in the tent. Love these freezing camps when inside the tent, not the guy line checking though....
I like the thermos tip but not the idea of carrying it! Thanks for watching and commenting! Happy winter camps.
Thats a great video Dave and i always admire and appreciate all the efforts involved in making this type of video especially in these type of conditions. Also its good to see that you mentioned about thinking ahead and being prepared for things to get worse or go wrong ( Prepare for the worst and hope for the best ;) When i see videos where they go out in winter and take enough booze to put an Elephant on its back it baffles me At the end of the day though we are all very subjective when giving our thoughts and opinions on bits of gear and its erring on the side of coming across as being offensive or negative when you want to express an objective opinion. Personally i like simplicity and minimalism with any type of gear and it has to be able to withstand a good hiding too and quick to deploy be it a tent , sleeping bag , stove etc at the same time as being as light as possible. The more bells and whistles the more things to go wrong so for 4 season summit capable tents i wouldn't want more than one access point because that means more zips and more weight and more potentially vulnerable parts. It's great to see how this Vern 1 dealt with the condensation but the variables in UK conditions are so inconsistent that what works one day might not work the next as i often find out. Just the change of wind direction carrying more moist air can significantly change how the tents perform. Have you ever made any mods to any tents that have involved more pegging points or guy line points etc ? I know this would void the warranty but on some tents it would make a word of difference for very minimal weight gain. I would like to know if you have and who did it..Thanks for sharing.
Hi Olan, i get you on the variable condensation issue. As for guying points, I have made no significant changes, but i do carry extra guys for the ones available. Thanks for the elaborate comment!
Blimey “ nerves of steel” what a storm glad the tent held up for you and your canine friend take care both.
I used to winter camp in Vermont (USA). Now, living in Colorado, we don't get the freezing rains nor humid cold. I don't miss that at all!
@kneadedmassage9751 I can imagine! 2c, wet, with wind is the ideal hypothermia conditions. It's why we avoid tents with a mesh interior here. I would love to see more of Colorado. I had 2 weeks skiing in steamboat springs 30 years ago, brilliant!
Enjoyed the video immensely Dave.... Learning such a lot from your work.... Love your dog too.... a real easy going companion for you on the hill....
She's the best Ed. Thanks a lot for the comment. I am learning all the time too.
Quite some flapping for just 35mph 🤔
Based on........
Dave another great video, very well narrated with honest points made, you deserve to see your channel grow with subscribers, keep going mate
Much appreciated PP!
Very impressive! Both you and the tent!
Thank you kindly!
Up there in the winter, you're experiencing things that most people will never do😁👍
And how I long to be back, there, ALIVE!
Really enjoyed watching that. Thankyou.
When melting snow, its best to put the water in the pot first and then add the snow on top. Will b more efficient and reduces the risk of burning the pot 👍
Yes, you are right, I did have a bit in but added more for illustration, but thanks for adding Steven and I am glad you enjoyed it.
Great video there Dave, can’t wait for mine to come! Annoyingly purchased after receiving an email from the stockist saying they were back in stock, only to then get an automated email after purchase saying it was actually a pre-order. The wait continues 😁Looks absolutely flawless in challenging weather
Fingers crossed it will be with you soon. Enjoy and cheers for the feedback Mike..
Hello Dave, really enjoyed your video it was a great test for the Vern 1 and it proved to be outstanding.
Thanks and hello 👋 back Mr Woolrich!
You are an inspiration! I haven't been camping in years and with the help of UA-cam, the bug is returning. Being 4 years off 61, I thought maybe it was now too late, but clearly very much not! Just saving now for the gear. Keep up the great videos, and in return I'll also raise you a glass of [malt] whiskey!
Be kind, make it Scotch single malt whisky!
Too late Tom? Get your ass out there! Interestingly I met three young guys who were returning after a day on the hills. They had soaked down jackets and one had plastic bags in his trainers and said his calves were cramping. They well meaningly advised I camp lower, I thanked them for their well meant advice and said that it wasn't my first time 'nasty' camping. So, don't underestimate your accumulated wisdom Tom. Use it and enjoy.
Great to see youngsters out on the hills.
A proper test if ever I saw one!
Not just the tent that was tested! Young fellman here had to focus.
Great test and camp video mate.
Just received my vern 1 today cant wait to get out in it.
👍 enjoy!
This is the second video of yours which I’ve watched, and as previous viewers have said, your narration is excellent, as is your own thoughts regarding equipment etc. Regardless of whether you have been sent gear or not, having a honest, informed review is what is important, especially if subscribers trust your opinions on items they may be considering to purchase. Thank you for taking us on your adventure. You have a new subscriber 😎
Welcome aboard Marc, just looked at your passion rave video.
Great test of tent, man, dog and fish! Nice summary at the end. Experience and thus opinion will vary and no manufacturer is stone free of error now and then. Vern 1 appears as good as anything out there for dealing with the elements. I especially like the fact that the inner does not seem prone to flapping about as much as some others in windy conditions. That you could get a good night's sleep with all of that going on, says much.
Well said Curt.
This is a video all about using gear that many of us would find exciting, and overcoming personal challenges and mistakes in subzero conditions. Subzero not for 5min but an entire overnight in an exposed tent is always a challenge. I like so many tune in to share and learn. But if I may I would like to share why I have appreciated something that is only a footnote. The idea of tent fish in the glass bowl of a tightly sealed tent is a bit of fun that people who have been locked up overnight like that relate to. A bit of originality. Thx for posting.JMO
tentfish says, "teeenttfish!"
I came here from a facebook group where another guy was criticizing this tent. Great video and the tent seems really good for winter conditions. I'm trying to decide whether to buy the Nortent VERN 1 or MSR Access 2
@Anna-dc3ci Aye, its capability has sprouted mean heartedness. Quite different tents. I know which I would go for. Good luck!
I have got the Vern 1 and have used it extensively this winter with the new poles and it has been superb . I have used the trekking pole hack at times but probably not necessary. The slagging off it got has eased off but it was ridiculous and felt like a peeing up the wall competition as if owning a certain tent was an extension of a persons ego.
@@keithmathews66 Yesterday I bought Terra Nova Southern Cross 2. I will test it next weekend
@@Anna-dc3ci looks like a good tent on paper and TN have a great heritage as gear manufacturers
Fantastic filming under arduous conditions. Excellent advise for any potentially failures. Fully appreciate your advice on building up to these sorts of conditions . My reasoning for doing these wild camps is experiencing what you can achieve in harsh conditions , what is your mind and body capable of how do you perform under pressure , how can you keep yourself focussed on protecting yourself. This way I can teach other people to hopefully not make mistakes or at least be to be prepared to deal with the worse . Such a great video great advice. My vern one is at home and based on the two camps you have you have done gives me great confidence in the tent. Thank you
Thanks Steve, I guess it's only when you get to pressure points, you discover the 'leaks' in your system and psyche. Enjoy the tent and thanks for the comment and the you know what!
Did you manage to seam seal or not bother ?I will test when I’m home but rather not seal it. Peak District first bound to rain there!
Didn't bother, but will later. Cheers
Hi Fellmandave, Many Thanks for your review and for your channel in general.
I would see a comparison of your Kuiu Storm Star versus the new Vern 1!!!
Cheers David. This makes a lot of sense. Thinking of vern 1 and 2 vs Storm star
Brilliant, mate, absolutely brilliant, thanks for that! I've only just started being interested in over night stays for my history films and this has given me a lot of valuable insight.
Glad I could help Matt!
I really am enjoying your content!
I am honoured to have you here. I really enjoy yours!
A shout out would be mighty appreciated from a small Brit channel!
@ I think I’ve watched all the Vern 1 videos at this point, ha ha. Been watching Vern 2 videos as well. Hoping I can get an updated pole set for the Vern 1. Climbing on top of a tent to demonstrate the pole structure is pretty rad.
@BackcountryExposure Nortent have been very responsive to customers' requests to have the updated pole set. Yes, the #climbyourtent gauntlet has been thrown down!
Been really enjoying your channel Dave looking forward to you reviewing vern 2 thinking of getting it for me and my son to enjoy some adventures this year nothing like the last video mind you it will be fair weather for us.
Cheers Jarrod. I only ended up doing that camp as I could not persuade my son to come out. Glad he didn't. Might of put him off completely.
Wowzers. Fair play. That was one hell of a review. I bet you slept well the next night! All the best 👍
Actually Paul, I slept pretty well that night. Being in a tent is my happy place. thanks for the comment.
Do you think it’s better than the storm star Dave? 🤔
, very well narrated with honest points made
Thank you Dadit.
Great video, enjoyed that a lot.
Cheers buddy. Roll on winter!
Dog looks impressed, not 😂
Solid looking tent that Dave and definitely an option for the bad weather campers.
Cheers Robin, watching your video now, waiting for the shout out! View of the bothy awesome!
I love adventuring no matter the weather... but I really need to get my furbaby used to it, and also used to having her paw-knives trimmed. She apparently has no idea how sharp those little needles of hers are.
Great video... I'm really looking forward to getting out camping again in my Verne 1 :)
I love the design, but still prefer the weight of the original non-freestanding version over the freestanding version. But maybe that will change some day.
Aye, the eternal battle of weight vs strength, nylon vs claws, cat vs mountain! Thanks again for commenting my friend.
Great video
Thanks John!
Awesome test, loved it 👌
Thank you buddy
What an amazing trip and video absolutely loved it! Not sure on the wisdom of the fish dish 😂😂😂 ! Your videos are inspiring totally love them, keep up the outstanding work!
Thanks Willow. Just getting tired of the camp dehydrated meals. Your comment really gave me a neck tingle, atb Dave
Fair play Dave! Proper testing night that. Thanks for documenting ☺️
Adge.
Cheers buddy!
shure, carry a lot of kitchen in the mountains - great idea !
A man has to eat...
Hey Dave from across the pond! (Charlotte, NC WooHoo!)
Great Video and Advice…i’ve “experienced” enough camp failures that I now have a problem, I tend to pack “my fears” and way overdue it, LoL!
Ordered the Vern 1 and pulled the trigger this morning on the Vern 2 as well…i’m anxiously awaiting for them both (Leif with Nortent emailed me and said should be later this week)
And You Sir just keep tackling and filming those treks to the summits, “Never Let The Old Man In” and you’ll be Forever Young!
Hope to see a B-Day 61 video from you…I’ll make a request to “Mgmt” and hopefully they can arrange it for all the FellManDave fans.
Ay up in NC! Thanks for the detailed comment. It warms this young heart to see that you were listening and not skipping, mind you, I can't get my own family to watch it. I think they see enough of me!
Just ordered the Vern 2 today and looking at doing a review myself.
Every time UK has had snow recently South Wales missed out, however the Brecon Beacons had snow Friday night just gone not forecast so I made no plans. I'm still waiting to do a snow camp.
The weather conditions can kill if unprepared like you pointed out. Great video atb Taff 🤠👊
Great. I will look out for that Taff.
fair play - thats defo not fair weather conditions...... solid tent considering many 4 season pro tents are knocking on the door of a grand.
I have only watched 3 of your videos so far and have enjoyed them, just want to say a couple of things , trig points , the bits of concrete with metal on top weren't for the views , they were for trigonometry ! The maps we use to this day and we're genius for mapping out everything! You also didn't like the sight of land management on a grous moor but like the round house fortresses that really changed the landscape ! Burning stops wield fire, quarries and mines and land management in the past and present is what gives us the beautiful landscape that we all enjoy plus the wildlife we see .
Game keepers and land management keep a balance and without them you wouldn't get the wonderful places that we get to enjoy
Thank you for making the videos and I do love them ❤
Hi Colin, of course I know what trig points are or were for. The landscape we see Colin is a mono species upland farm. Yes, history, farming, and occupancy have shaped it. You have me as ignorant. Check out the revive campaign and raptor persecution. Then have a look at the recent Scottish muirburn Bill. I also know that rewilding is not so easy. But have a look at places where land management is different, such as great mell fell.
@@Fellmandave1 I have watched loads more of your videos and now understand your dry sense of humour, sorry I put the comment and please keep the videos coming 👍
@@colinstubbs8734No worries and thanks.
Just a quick tip on melting snow. When collecting snow instead of using pots and pans (snow always reduces to approx 1/3 water sometimes less)
Get yourself a "snow bag"-a large stuff sack is ideal. Collect loads of snow in bag and leave in vestibule. Take snow from "snow bag" Oh one last tip-do not use yellow snow!!
Great tips, thanks!
Great video. Do you have an aeropress? I never go anywhere without mine now. You can carry your supply of ground coffee inside the body of it in your rucksack.
Don't have one, I do have the nanopresso though. Just thought this was a lightweight all in one job. But you're right. I should try one. Thanks for commenting.
@Fellmandave1 The ability to make a really good cup of coffee when you are on your own, wet, cold and tired and in the middle of nowhere is one of life's great pleasures. Especially with a few McVities Dark Chocolate biscuits. 👌
I want one now!
i've started making a bunch of espresso for camping. put it in a plastic bottle, then just boil up some water and add espresso. works really well.
There has to be a catch!
Thank you for this good video. I have now seen the necessary video of the tent, and yes, I have just bought it. Hope my dog has enough room too. It's a Vizsla male
That's a lovely dog and I'm sure he'll fit nicely. Tents always look smaller on the video than in real life. Enjoy!
Hi Dave. I've recently discovered your channel and as a fellow 'senior' aged wildcamper I'm loving the content and your presentation. You mentioned you are about to hit 61? I will be 63 in a couple of weeks and having come back to wildcamping just 5 years ago I certainly have no intention in stopping anytime soon! My aim is to keep going to 70 and then re-evaluate! Anyway, I'm loving your subjective 'testing' of the Nortent Vern 1. For the past 5 years I've been using a British made Snugpak Scorpion 2 as my winter tent but to be honest although it's 'bullet' proof it really is only a small one person tent and I cannot justify the cost of the Hilleberg Soulo as my wildcamping area is Dartmoor. The Vern 1 looks a brilliant four season tent for the UK! Keep up the great videos. ATVB Graham (Sidestickflyer)
Thanks Graham, glad to hear you are enjoying getting out. I highly recommend the Vern. Let me know if you get one and thanks for the great comment.
Will do Dave! Good luck with your silicone bag cook system. I use home made meals vacuum packed and frozen in BPA free plastic bags. Once at camp I simply put the bag in my Jetboil Sumo for 10 minutes! It works a treat every time with no danger of the contents decorating the inside of my rucksack! 😂
Dave just joined your channel interesting video good listing to you enjoyed yourself in all your camp's. Nice little 🐕will see you both next time 👍🍺🚴🚴
Cheers Stuart and welcome.
Looks more like the Caringorms than Northumberland, the border ridge is definitely a good tent testing ground! Is there enough room in the Vern 1 for the thermarest trekker chair then? Always a blessing for the long nights
There will be enought space Nick, I had the wide mat and trekker chair wth me, but for not the first time I could not be arsed to put it up!
Since you’ve asked for our ideas, maybe some dog boots - I saw a set on line that have suspenders. For those extreme conditions ❤
I have thought of that but I think thats for prolonged and severe. It would drive her mental probably! I am sorting a bivi bag for her, for those stop and pitch times. Thanks for the suggestion!
Great video and a great tent. I'm considering the Vern 2 also, with the chimney slot. How well do you think that would have held up in those conditions with and without the stove? The stove for the Vern 2 I'm considering is the Pomoly Traveller which has a segmented fairly strong titanium pipe.
From what I can tell so far, the vern 2 will be more than up to it, but I am really not sure about a chimney. But to be fair i have never tried a stove pipe in strong winds. nortent may be able to advise you on max conditions.
but i will be reviewing one soon so will be able to tell you more. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment. 😀
Thank you. I look forward to that especially as at the moment there's nothing on YT except Nortent 's own video on it.@@Fellmandave1
A true inspiration 🫡
Thanks!
Think the vern 2 is my next purchase, great video
Awesome! Thank you Coops ! I am sure you will love it.
Great advice, great setup. Many thanks ❤ Do like the radiate type stove and had the Reactor but I did find it difficult to light in any wind, have you found the same?
Glad it was helpful! from another old bloke with his dog.
I'm from Stoke-on-Trent Dave remember buying from Joe Royle and High Peak on Clough St. Are you from Stoke?? Enjoyed the vid mate 😊
Adam
@tur173 Yes Adam! From Blurton. I had a Saturday job in Hanley and spent every penny in Jo Royles and at the climbing club meet night in Leek. I was 17 and could buy 5 pints of lager for £2 ! Its that same boy that is in heaven with the gear I have nowadays. Thanks for commenting buddy.
I like the look of this tent a lot but am leaning more towards the KUIU Storm Star. Will be good to see a comparison video if you have one planned.
Coming soon Mark, what makes you lean?
@@Fellmandave1 It's like a Hilleberg Allak but half the price. Lighter materials of course but the sail material at the seams looks very strong and haven't seen anything like it before, so quite unique. Lots of space inside and 2 vestibules. My current small tent is the Robens Starlight 2, enough room for me and the dog but not much vestibule space. The Vern 1 looks quite narrow at the head and foot end, so wasn't sure about that.
For easier hikes I have the Robens Voyager 2ex which is like a palace compared to the other, love the big vestibule.
Also just bought a pair of KUIU Northstar mitts which I'm very impressed with, would go well with the tent!
@@marko9912 I find the KUIU a bit short, whereas the extra length of the Vern is useful, there was also room for a 25" pad. Space is good honestly!
Great video again mate.
Your poor dog - every time you got out you left the door flaps wide open!!
Does she ever feel the cold? I'm wondering how my black lab would get on with his shorter coat...
Thanks Andy, but she was well wrapped up all the time eh? But the only fault was at the start when pitching. She got herself ticked amongst the rocks, but I am experimenting with a bivi set up for her.
Great test for the tent ,I love a proper winter camp. How do you think your kuiu storm star would have held up in the same conditions. I'd love to see a comparison video.
Good question, I think it would have been fine but the kuiu is harder to pitch and those top vents and tge gap around the bottom do let stuff in. Check out my cairngorm video to see what I mean!
what is the cooking Stowe brand? gas apparently. and how about the silicon bag which resist the heat(w soup). thanks
Hi Mich, that is an MSR windburner duo. Both are in the links in the description. The bags are in the cookware link, the stove is in the stoves link. Cheers and thanks for watching
I think if you’re prepared you can enjoy any camp, although did a few in Afghanistan I’d rather not have, neighbours were a bit…. aggressive… After many years trying to make good coffee in far flung places the best and easiest bit of kit I’ve found is a simple strainer. I think MSR do one called the mugmate, you just put your ground coffee in the strainer, drop it in your hot water, lift it out when ready and after a while just bash out the grinds. Problem with those plunger type coffee makers is the mess, they are also quite bulky. Obviously that’s why people like the aeropress but they are bulky and heavy too. Also I have to have a thermal mug. A good soldier always tries to have a hot drink stashed somewhere just in case, but also in winter hot drinks go cold quickly, and if you have a mug with a proper lid you aren’t gonna spill hot coffee all over your sleeping bag you’ve tied so hard to keep dry. That said, we like to rock it our own way, no rules on the hill! Another great vlog, thanks 👍
Thanks buddy. I have a strainer too, just can't seem to get it strong enough for me. Just though I would give it a go since I had the compatible pan. Thanks for the great comment!
"ah finally i'm in a bit of shelter. i ah am gonna sleep over here..." over here being more exposed area, that may lead to the tent failing (expected upcoming conditions? was the see breeze an inland gale? wind speed? which storm was it? how fast was that unlaiden swallow? i need to know.) however you got new sub, just because still informative.
You can't say it all. Not easy this game you know!
From the SW, just prevailing winter wind. Not a named storm. Welcome aboard.
What is the smallest that you can pack the tent down to?
Hi Dave, 23 x 23 cm. I show that in this video ua-cam.com/video/spCPdnR2EbU/v-deo.html at the 4:00
Hi Dave super video. I’ve got the vern 2 on order after watching yours and a few other videos. I’m deliberating over ordering the vern 1 as well as again I’m impressed after watching your videos but just worried my sleep system won’t fit. I use an exped 5R LW which is 1970mm x 650mm. Do you know if it would fit with the tent tapering at each end please? I’ve looked at the sizing on the Nortent site but I think it’s external sizes that it’s showing me. It show the vestibule at 65cm and the sleep space at 135cm so if you take it that the tents symmetrical that implies there’s 70cm to spare at it’s narrowest but don’t want to make a costly mistake if it’s less. Do you know what the actual width is please of the internal bathtub base at its narrowest? Thank you 🤞
Hi Marc. I just got the inner out especially for you and measured it on the floor. At its narrowest points it is 50cm. The distance between those corners is 220cm. 10 cm in it opens up to around 58cm. You would fit in a 200cm x 60, just, but anything bigger. No. My 185 x 65 mat fits just nicely. Hope that helps!
@@Fellmandave1 brilliant Dave thank you that is very useful info. Thank you for taking the time to look at that for me. Watched the video with the inner taken out. Looks a good idea for summer as long as your smidged up.
Nowt worse than fish juice in yer water! Boy did that look rough Dave. Tent looks ace. 👌
Hi Chris! But you know everything tastes good when camping.
Windmachine in use again?
It's actually cheap chocolate that does it for me, so that night I was OK. But thanks for asking Monika.
Dave excellent video another positive outcome for the Vern1
What is your plan for seam sealing the tent?
Mine arrived today with 20 pegs so your previous comments must have been heard by NORTENT
I think it was not just me, Bill, but Nortent does listen! I will be seam sealing it before long, if anything to help protect and strengthen the stitching, insurance.. . .
fantastic vid, leftover fish juice instead of milk with your tea - lol
Sounds quite vommy looking back! Was good at the time though!
I would say to justify that type of adventure that its easy to camp out in the summer months but the weather is not always that forgiving and what experience do you have when the weather doesnt have so much of an promise? ..So I done an few winter camps on local hills with good amenities and in decent but nevertheless frozen conditions...everything went as planned and I'm no longer afraid to tackle such an adventure...but my advice is to always plan out well in advance know your pitch and never go beyond your bounds..One thing is for sure I was never so glad to get home after those camps yet I had no real appreciation for my flat in the first instance so in an round about fashion I can say the experience is certainly worthwhile even it if means that your glad and appreciative to get back to those mundane and uninteresting digs...because if your old place never meant much to you in the first place then after that it certainly will...
Thanks Eric!
Another elephant in the room, how does it shape up against the PC version? I am debating whether the extra weight is worth it for the PC.
I have not used tge Pc Hedley, but can be a bit damp in certain conditions. Not something I fancy.
Thank you for a nice review of this tent.
I live in Norway but have to admit I haven't tried Nortents yet. Have sticked to Hilleberg and Helsport all my life. And since tents are expensive I can't just buy new ones all the time to try them out. This Vern1 looks a lot like Hilleberg Soulo and it's obvious Nortent have almost copied that concept and design and just changed it a little bit. Guess Hilleberg isn't much happy about that.
But anyways, I have the Soulo and I am a little disappointed with it because of bad ventilation and tiny vestibule, there is only one vent on top of the tent but there should be at least one on each short end of the tent in my opinion.
The Vern looks like there is more room inside both for equipment(+dog) and cooking in the vestibule, is that correct? And is the height almost identical inside or?
I can say with confidence that the Vern 1 is better ventilated and has more space than the Soulo.. Thanks for commenting.
I was about to buy the Vern 2 for me and my dog but it seems like the Vern1 is okay also. My pup is 21 pounds. You think we'd be comfortable in this tent?
@COYOTEEXILE Yes, definitely, that's not a big dog. If you want LOTS OF SPACE. Have a look at the Nortent Ly2
I'm considering pulling the trigger on the vern 2 today. Do you think it's worth the money from what you make of it so far? I was looking at the fjallraven keb dome but the vern looks perfect! Really enjoyed your videos on the tent so far. Thanks :)
Hi, I will be testing the vern 2 soon, so will know more then. I don't think you'd be disappointed if you just get it!
I enjoy a good wet and windy camp it's more of a challenge and less boring that a normal camping session..
Roll on winter David
this was in Peak District?
Hi Mich, Northumberland. Its at the start in type! You weren't watching properly. 😂😂😂
Great video Dave. Btw what rucksack were you using?
Thank you! That's the Gregory optic 58.
@@Fellmandave1 Agh…great thanks 👍
Great video Dave - can I ask … did you seam seal the tent before this outing? I have one on order and still 50/50 on whether to seam seal it - thanks
I didn't seam seal it yet Andy, but will eventually.
I'd love to do some wild camping like that, but living in West London there doesn't appear to be anywhere even remotely close that permits wild camping. :(
It looks like camp in the garden time. I do it sometimes, then plan!
@@Fellmandave1 I think you're right! :)
I'm a forest dweller. Never wild camp above the tree line.
I love the trees too. Peaceful
Time for me to replace my old Blacks Mountain tunnel tent, and my old paraffin Primus stove.
Definitely keep the primus though. I have my Dad's old one and treasure it. ATB
Dave, that dog is NOT going to talk to you again, ever.😮
What's the iceblue container in the tent vests' to the right hand side?
Dog loves me unconditionally Marty. That's the wide mouth hydrapak, also my pee bottle, makes a good one!
wich one of the verns do you prefer? the old one vs the new one? the old version has a big pro that it's lighter, but how does it compare to you?
The new one is preferable because of the usable space inside. There may be a LW version coming!
@@Fellmandave1 oooh! Thats epic news!
@@Fellmandave1 Is that insider information from Nortent? Any idea when its coming?
@trektoid5092 yes and no. Don't know any more, sorry!
Doesn't the wife like you ?
The dog looks really pleased to be there as well.
She didn't make me go!
lol.
I love watching these, but do you worry about your domesticated dog getting frostbite on his paws and ears? Honest question.
Hi Kana. No I don't worry for her. It was just short exposure and she has a good coat. Plus she is out, twice a day in all weather's and is an ex Romanian stray. Not as domesticated as she looks. I look after her, but thanks for your comment and concern.
Nasty conditions. I'll bet this video will have sold a few of this tent.
Nortent are a cool company, I wish them every success!
I might just be buying one myself! :D @@Fellmandave1
Vern 1 comparison mk1 / mk2 ? Opinions anyone…??
Hi John, can i ask why? I have been thinking of doing a comparison video, but not sure if there is a point. Vern 2 is stronger, has better internal volume, but, of course, weighs more.
@@Fellmandave1 hi mate, was just looking for anyones view really on the extra weight , I tab a lot generally over couple of days obv camp in between, I’m on a telemark but really like these verns….
I bought a tent because I couldn't afford hotels.
Preferable anyway, no banging doors!
@@Fellmandave1 True
Tent are better then Hotels. 🏕️⛰️
I can't believe you took your dog up there 🤬🤬🤬
They are pretty tough Mike and only exposed to the blast for a very short period. Don't worry, I love that dog much more than you know.
@@Fellmandave1 hmmmmmmmmm 🧐🧐 lol
Hello, I'm brand new to your excellent channel. I like your style so wanted to make a point, not a criticism. I'm trying to get back to backpacking before I'm too old. When I was Young, all the advice when camping was to stay low and well sheltered when pitching a tent. Well as you know, summit camping is very popular now. I've been out in the most extreme conditions possible where no tent would stand, even in a valley. I know if you're more or less guaranteed the weather it shouldn't be a problem. But seeing some camped high in the Cairngorms middle of winter is far too risky for me. I have Chris Townsend s dvd, The Cairngorms in Winter. There's a scene of him camped high in one of these tipi tens with a walking pole. No inner tent, the base opens to the weather. Highly dangerous? However I have camped in severe weather where I was as sheltered as possible. Anyway I think I'll be buying vern 1 for myself. Looks like a tank. Regards
Hi Ham! Thanks for you comment. I just think exposed camping is part of the adventure in this far too controlled in sanitised world. Enjoy the Vern 1, its excellent.
@@Fellmandave1 No one is trying to control where anyone camps. It's just common sense advice . The weather can be very dangerous. However in this day and age of constant updates it's probably less of a risk . Great channel. Regards
I am a wildlife photographer. My motivation is to beat the crowd's and get my best shots.
I so get it.
Ideal conditions for hypothermia is 2-5c and rain and a little breeze, you can dress for below zero and a breeze but you cant dress for rain.Even the best gore tex or whatever text wont hold you dry for very long and when you are wet you are done. the numbers are taken from the Norwegian army and collected over 60 years and those conditions are when Norwegian soldiers get hypothermia. Not when its -40 etc.
Exactly, I was wet from the rain in the valley which was those conditions Exactly, then hit freezing wet snow. Took me a while to get warm!
@@Fellmandave1Yes and you had plenty gear so no wonder less experienced people die from conditions like that. Sadly there will always come new less experienced people so all we can do is make sure we are able to handle ourself when we are out hiking.
@@MrKveite1 thank you I understand now, ironically there were 3 yound guys on the way down. They were nearly back but one had trainers on, with plastic bags inside and his legs were cramping up. they all had down jackets on that were soaked. They did not need asisstance, good to see yound people out though--learning.
@@Fellmandave1Plastic bags are a bad idea since you will get wet anyway from sweating but the diff is your feet cant breathe when wrapped in plastic.
I live in the lakes and these conditions are very common, I learned years ago that wool and quality synthetics are better than down products for the simple fact that they will still provide warmth even when wet and damp.
Even in Mildy damp conditions I've seen down gear failing after a few days due to damp and humidity or their performance severely degraded.
Might be okay in dry and overnight ers but are terrible for multi day in wet or humid conditions and have no fallback once they fail.
I disagree with the Goretex comments, as long as you use quality garments and keep them in good shape and treated they will keep you dry, I've used ME Gore Pros shell for years, used on multi day hikes in torrential rain and they haven't failed me, they will keep you 90% dry (there's always some drippage), usually its sweat build up or lack of care of the garment (wet out) that makes you wet, in 25 years I've never had a problem, but always use quality gear and retreat it a couple times a year.
eVent on the other hand is consistently terrible whenever I've owned it.
Poor dog, mustve been freezing brrrrr
She's got a great fluffy coat Annie, but next time I will take a bivi to pop her in!
Why doesn't the tent have a built in ground sheet
It does Phil.
Poor dog like WTF WHY?
She loves camping