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I think its good because any other company would've released this games, only for their fans to be disappointed. Yes we know there was a long silence between half lifes, but it was so that their quality wasn't falling.
Not to mention that if they eventually decide to do it, there won't be Rick May to voice the Soldier... I like Nolan North, but the Soldier is the Soldier, end of story. And they already half-assed it in Expiration Date, mixing the two voices for some absurd reason.
I noticed a trend: - Game is surprise hit - Sequel attempts to massively innovate - Defaults back to what made the original good after months/years of experimentation Rinse repeat
@@PalaceDude I mean, there are a tonne of tech demos and mini projects (like the directed design experiments) that were missed. I'd say there's at least 50 attempted projects.
This is how Valve works. They throw everything at the wall and see what sticks. The development philosophy is that small teams create prototypes out of brainstorming sessions, and if there is no progress or no interest to continue the project, it is scrapped.
maybe they know better from the inside tho? many things do sound great, but are never good idea due to underlaying problem with realisation of such thing but many of cancelled games are surely could be great, yeah, especially (for me) F-stop and half-life borealis
imagine going through an incredibly selective hiring process and getting to work at Valve software, and spend years on projects that were never released... no wonder some willingly left over valve's unproductive idiosyncrasies
they could do that because they have Steam so they have money and power... Without Steam, Valve would be forced to finish Source 2 engine and at least some of these games that they canceled
Maybe it's because the projects turned out to be mediocre or worse. There's always a reason, otherwise - why did all the games based on cancelled Valve ideas fail miserably?
@@numl4179 It's more about the games that were very close to completion. I get that concepts get shelved all the time, but to cancel a game that is 90% finished is just strange
@@Pulkz F Stop apparently was shelved because playtesters kept thinking it was a portal game and always asked, where are the portals? Some dumbass explanation to cancel a game, but yeah, Super liminal is good.
EA games: Buy boxed cake, slap some store frosting on it and make a pretty design to sell. Valve games: Get a recipe, cook it 12 times making a dozen cakes of different flavors, textures and techniques, only to come up with one single cake in the end to ever reach the public for tasting.
@@Crazylom Not to mention the fact, that in all honesty, the only push TF2 needs to be mainstream is advertising. If [AD] had a show and at the end it just says at the end "Play TF2 you dumb shit", the game might have another decade left.
Absolutely, I enjoyed Firewatch and was looking forward to this... buying up an independent studio to shelve and/or cancel what they were working on is a dick move imho.
@@slushoknight Yeahh, but I mean B4B is pretty different from L4D. The source engine and valves characters honestly made L4D special. But I'm not seeing the same enjoyment from B4B. Still, if you like it props to you.
Good god that HL3 v2 sounds abhorrent. Don't get me wrong Cremator factories sound amazing, but they can't just completely ignore the Ep2 ending like that. We need a proper follow up. Great video Tyler!
"Gordon Freeman wakes up in Aperture Science in America and gets Avatar powers to start an uprising with a Cremator factory" sounds like a bad fanfiction
I swear to god if the follow up is a vr game I will jump off a bridge. I mean if they can somehow convert the core mechanics into vr well maybe I'd play it but oh god please no
So, in a nutshell, Valve never stopped making games; they just stopped shipping games. EDIT: You didn't mention 2 Bots 1 Wrench, but I think you covered everything else I've heard of.
yeah, i was already asking myself; WTF are doign on Valve, there are no new games just CS GO, what are they taking so long to do.... they were cancelling already finished games.... i hate and i love valve at the same time
@@jassx3 It’s called Goldeneye Alyx 007 - Dam (Part 3) I worked on Graphic Design for the map steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2189721764
Stars of Blood is easily the most interesting one of these imo, especially since it apparently ties into the HL universe. It'd be super interesting to experience that world from some distant galaxy or solar system.
You forgot to mention that the concept for F-Stop later became the inspiration for the game Superliminal. Also, I'd love to see Prospero become an actual thing at some point. That sounds like the perfect MMO for me, all its missing is solid character customization.
I wanna see the early version of Prospero, it was a first person puzzle / shooter similar to Half Life, but you have psionic powers to control things and fight and solve puzzles. Sounds like it could bridge the gameplay of Portal and Half Life, and maybe join their universe.
All these canceled games are sort of bitter sweet imo. Valve as a company is and always has been a perfectionist, they never want to release games unless it will meet the standard of the games they previously made. That's pretty hard to do when all of their games are amazing (except artifact). So it sucks that none of these ideas have been made a reality... yet, but it means that valve thought that the games would not be good enough, or up to their standard. A bunch of people probably disagree with with that (including me) but we know that when a Valve game does release, its safe to say that it will be pretty damn amazing.
Ravenholm has to be one of my favourite levels in all video games to date, to know there would’ve been a ravenholm expansion drives me nuts. Also TF: Invasion looks like it would’ve been fun, Im assuming it would’ve been unique aliens instead of half life aliens, still sounds fun.
If Brotherhood of Arms is nearly done, I think a Valve employee should just make it a passion project to finish it up and release it so the TF community can finally experience that mysterious chapter in TF history.
valve is like kanye: -considered the goat by many in their specific field -perfectionists who will often delay or straight up cancel a project if it isnt 100% perfect -so much lost content from both -fanbase who always complains that they 'miss the old valve/kanye' -fanbase who also will obsessively study everything they do -most recent big projects from both considered dissapoints (jesus is king/artifact)
HOLY SHIT, dude we must be on the same wavelength because I have also been thinking about this a lot. Both fans also go crazy for leaks (even if they are small as fuck). Also, Yandhi = Half-life 3 for sure. Now if only we could get Donda/a TF2 update...
My thoughts on all this (feel free to comment your thoughts): Submarine- it would probably be more of an action game than a stealth game, you play as the submarine and operate the crew but not going through the submarine. As they said not focused much on stealth. Prospero- Think of this as that GMod fan-made movie (War of the worlds one), where you go through servers and play on others creations but you can do a collab and have some kind of an event where it affects the servers by the same enemies or something. Furthermore, you can have a Might & Magic type of story, where you follow one lore but can go to another world (server) and there would be whole different lore for that world, created by the community. Valve's Team Fortress- Not much to say other than just TFC but different skins. Threewave- HL: Deathmatch Beta if you will TF2 XBox- Nothing much, just a port. Differences would be just that gameplay would fit an XBox not PC. TF2: BOA- Nothing new except I believe that the concept of a 'leader' can work even in today's TF2. IF done right. CS2 - My theory is that what goose wanted is essentially Rainbow Six: Siege but in the Source engine. TF2: Invasion- Nothing much to say that hasn't been said already. However, I would like to see a tactical Alien vs Humans game in TF style. Fairy- Considering Valve is talking about this game as if they are embarrassed by it. It's probably nothing special, I mean think of it this way. You are making a game and then another employee tells you he/she is working on this game where enemies spawn not at random but calculated based on players' decisions and stats. Episode 3- Nothing much to say except that I would not be a fan of this HL3. More guns? I barely used the Crossbow land along with more weapons. And creating a game based on a single new thing that is a jelly. Nah, I'll pass. In games, a story isn't everything. TIME- Keep this one in mind. Margarita- Simple feature that can be implemented in any game. Not much to write home about. F-Stop- This, previous time thing, and an upcoming fan-made Portal game with a 3rd portal. Combining these elements would make a great Portal 3 game. Stars of Blood- This is something Valve tried that was popular at that time which were the MMORPGs, unlike Battle Royale (which we got in CSGO as Danger Zone) MMOs are hard to make and it's clear why Gabe canceled it. Would I pay money to play it? Absolutely. HL3 V1- If Valve didn't want it then neither would I. Project RPG- If they went with this, this game, or at least it's lore. Could potentially rival that of a World of Warcraft. Shame it didn't get made but it would probably suffer a similar fate as Warhammer online. Day of Defeat 2- Why Valve? Why? Ok, I know the reason but what hurts to make it. I mean sure if you want an accurate and realistic WW2 shooter, Hell Let Loose and Post Scriptum are your options. But they don't have that feel of a Source engine. HL: Resource Gathering- Just testing features, nothing much. HL3 V2- Maybe if you weren't playing as Gordon Freeman (because it kind of doesn't feet the lore) this could work. L4D3- As Tyler and the people working on it said: Source can't do this, yet. If it could, I am certain it would make for a great zombie survival game. I guess we can only wait and hope they implement this feature in Back4Blood. L4D Project AR: Valve............... WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!???? Remember when games were FUN!? TFTV- My theory on why they couldn't work it out it's because of a Source Film Maker. It's simply broken and it has a lot of bugs. Taking a long time making good (or even professional) animation in SFM is normal but not in the animation industry. If they were using a different engine but the same art style we would have TV series. I know the concept of an SFM, meaning that you don't have to make everything from scratch. If you need scenery, you already have it. A prop? Not a problem. But it's because of how Valve works programmers and animators did not see eye to eye. This is my theory feel free to correct me. HLB- Would be great for an HL VR game, I mean Alyx worked. Why not do the same? Seems fitting for a VR title. A.R.T.I.- Just a demo but for some reason they wanted to have an SP campaign. Not bad when you think about it. A good story and good gameplay make a great game. SIMTREK- Would be nice to be released in Source or not. Sounds very fun. With SP campaign and objectives to upgrade your ships, all that in VR. Take my money. L4D VR- In CEDA HQ? I can understand why they canceled it but it still would be fun to play through. To see it all start. Alien Swarm VR- Not a bad concept, but L4D AR sounds way more fun. HL: Tactics- Again probably Valve trying to be inventive and expand to other areas (WiiU and Switch). Seems like a simple game like the card game with some unique things. Portal VR- If you want to barf, this game would be for you. I mean you are solving puzzles while having a screen glued to your eyes. That's a lot of strain on your brain plus are jumping and flying all over the place. Haven't played Portal in VR so correct me if I'm wrong. In the Valley of Gods- I can see why. VR and puzzles are a lot better than puzzles and keyboard and mouse (and monitor). Again, these are just my thoughts. If I'm wrong somewhere, correct me. Would like to start a discussion.
I love Valve alot, and seeing and hearing about just only 30 Cancelled Valve Games makes me incredibly sad that we never got to experience them. And this is only 1st party, the other half of the cancelled games are gonna make me even sadder. I'm still hopeful that one day we may get to try them out or see more about them. I can't even pick one that hurts the most more than Episode 3 and Half-Life 3, they're my top 2 that sadden me the most just because of the cliffhanger in Episode 2. I love you Valve, but you hurt me. You hurt all of us.
eh most of em mustve sucked if they straight up canceled it, and couldnt find a way to make it work. I mean a whole team of sega got straight up fired. but i do get what you mean though. I hope someday valve would make an rpg. I kinda wanna see what kind of game they would make if they do make an RPG genre.
I used to love Valve when they were just a rag-tag bunch of gamers who created games for the love. Now they're just a disorganised bunch of industry elites who hire and fire on a whim and only chase the money.
@@FlyboyHelosim i mean would you love them the same if they kept making repetetive, uninnovative shovelware? I mean its not like theres Monalisa 2. Theres just 1 monalisa.
@@rattango9819 Well some of their games are already like that for me, so. I personally don't care for anything they've done really outside of the Half-Life series itself.
As upsetting as these are, we can be thankful we got our version Team Fortress 2 and not those generic military shooter ones that were developed in Goldsrc.
Stars of Blood look so freaking intriguing. Why cancelling such a cool concept??? In the valley of Gods, Prospero.. it seems everytime they have a good idea they need to shut it down.. or buying a studio so they can shut it down.
13:16 This prototype sounds very fanfiction-tier and I'm glad they cancelled it, but HOLY SHIT I FUCKING *LOVE* that concept art. I hope they do something like that with Gordon in a future "Half-Life 4" or something
@Dat Boii that's more like price to pay for shit morality in the company. I cannot see anyone being happy for cancelling ready-to-release games. Usually games either get chopped earlier in development; without man-hours and love poured into it.
12:03 - Day of Defeat : Global Offensive - VALVe make it happen!! a CS:GO but WWII with co op campaign etc etc... That would be awesome!! Can someone start a petition? Let's gooo
It was valve's fault for taking 2 years to make the pilot, then making a 20 minute episode despite Adult Swim's directions stating an 11 minute short, then only cutting it down to 15. I don't blame Adult Swim for pulling out, despite how sad the news is.
In The Valley of Gods actually looked amazing. I kinda wish they kept going with it but HL:A is great too. All I can do is hope they decide to give ITVOG or Day of Defeat another chance.
As cool as a lot of the stuff Valve does is and likely necessary a lot of the business decisions, I can't help but get a very yucky feeling every time I hear about them buying a talented new indie team and then announcing their game. Lately more often than not the game gets cancelled and everybody leaves, but a company like EA draws massive fire for doing the same thing.
Nuclear Dawn is so good. Totally underrated game. When I was playing regularly, it was hard to find full servers. It has one of the best, most satisfying game loops with a really great mix of class-based FPS with one player as the commander playing the game more RTS style. It's interesting to see that the concept was fleshed out at Valve first then reworked into the game we can now buy.
See, now this here is the Valve News I love to see! Good job to both you and Jaycie, and I look forward to the followup you just teased on your discord.
VNN probably meant the Original Xbox for when the original idea of TF2 was still being made. Counter-Strike and Half-Life 2 were the only Valve games to make it on the Xbox. Speaking of CS Xbox... VNN should talk about the story behind Condition Zero which more than midway into finishing, they released a "lite" version of Condition Zero for the Xbox. The Xbox version is called just "Counter-Strike" but has the new models, textures, effects, etc of Condition Zero but without the campaign. There are more that VNN should talk about in a video.
"The rest of the episodes were later incorporated into the stories of Team Fortress 2 comics, the final issue of which, Team Fortress 2 Comic #7, is likely cancelled." No. No no no no no no.
When I hear about cancelled games I hate this because in most cases it means that we never gonna get our hands on it. I hear what the game was supposed to be and then be like "now I want to play it, if only it was never cancelled". Many fan-teams are willing to finish some of these cancelled games if given the chance.
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Ok
No
Jesus Christ are you starving, Tyler? This is pathetic
@@purple_1884 He's got to make a living somehow, chill
i dont think so pal
15:40 - _"Issue #7 is most likely cancelled."_
1. Fall over on the ground.
2. Try not to cry.
3. Cry alot.
I dont think its cancelled, they just dont want to make it right now
@@fairydust-j8b *Coming soon = Coming 2025*
Let’s just scream a little....
1.
2.
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*AAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH*
The worst part is that the script is already done, from what I've heard. The artists just have to draw it, we're so close :(
@@g.t.3186 I hope we're not in a timeline where a Valve writer quits, and a year later releases Epistle 7 to their blog.
So this is why Valve doesn't release that many games... They're too busy cancelling them to release them.
I think its good because any other company would've released this games, only for their fans to be disappointed. Yes we know there was a long silence between half lifes, but it was so that their quality wasn't falling.
@@boogameow thing is the way they work
theyre like the kind of guys that will never do a thing if they are not in the mood
I wouldn't say that about anything but half life 3, but overall lack of content is a pretty substantial disappointment on its own.
Their standards for scope creep are so fucking high.
That's game development for ya, lots of games get cancelled, brainstormed, cancelled again, re-envisioned, etc.
For as long as I live, I will never get over the cancellation of Team Fortress TV.
Personally I believe it could have been my favorite show... also I hope that last tf2 comic isn’t canceled
Seems to represent Valve worth ethic, waiting until it's too late.
@@daleksec01 I think the comics is abandoned since no one is working on it.
@@daleksec01 if you read the comics and the story there whas what could of been then yeah it would have been fucking glorious show
Not to mention that if they eventually decide to do it, there won't be Rick May to voice the Soldier... I like Nolan North, but the Soldier is the Soldier, end of story. And they already half-assed it in Expiration Date, mixing the two voices for some absurd reason.
I noticed a trend:
- Game is surprise hit
- Sequel attempts to massively innovate
- Defaults back to what made the original good after months/years of experimentation
Rinse repeat
Yep
It's a little frustrating
I mean it's kind of working
@@donkey7921 On the contrary, it's very much what Half-Life in VR WOULD look like, so it's fine.
@@donkey7921 because it's half life in VR. Stunning, right?
I would love a modern Day of Defeat on Source 2
I would recommend Day of Infamy if it wasn't dead and unfinished xD
Yo
Meh we have insurgency
same
If I were to pick anything off this list to be released tbh at this point it's TFTV
Valve gives a new meaning to "Cancel culture"
shut up
@@Nether64 no you shut up
@@squarehead6452 that's why your shoes raggedy
@@Nether64 that's why your momma dead
@@bio826 *THUD*
Goddamn that TFTV cancellation makes my heart hurt
It could've been SO good. Arrrgh... if I ever find a way to travel to alternate universes I'm finding one where TFTV happened.
"30 Cancelled Valve Games"
There aren't even 30 Valve games
30 KNOWN cancelled games. KNOWN. There could actually be way more...
@@PalaceDude and that scares me.
@@tricksterzyro3230 That thing... It scares me.
@@PalaceDude I mean, there are a tonne of tech demos and mini projects (like the directed design experiments) that were missed. I'd say there's at least 50 attempted projects.
This is how Valve works. They throw everything at the wall and see what sticks. The development philosophy is that small teams create prototypes out of brainstorming sessions, and if there is no progress or no interest to continue the project, it is scrapped.
It's depressing how many times I said "Sounds Great!" while listening to this.
Ikr, I love Valve but their own nature is what causes them to cancel half of their amazing projects.
i hate Valve by stuff like this, but then i forget about that because anyway they have many good games
maybe they know better from the inside tho? many things do sound great, but are never good idea due to underlaying problem with realisation of such thing
but many of cancelled games are surely could be great, yeah, especially (for me) F-stop and half-life borealis
@@tochka832
F-stop was picked up by a third party and became Superliminal
imagine going through an incredibly selective hiring process and getting to work at Valve software, and spend years on projects that were never released...
no wonder some willingly left over valve's unproductive idiosyncrasies
I take that over whatever the f ea and blizzard are now
Istg Valve is like "Oh look, the sky is blue today, let's cancel a game".
this is why we need to pollute the air
Imagine canceling all these cool projects and realising something like artifact instead
they could do that because they have Steam so they have money and power... Without Steam, Valve would be forced to finish Source 2 engine and at least some of these games that they canceled
Another dose of 'why valve, why'
Because they were 99.9999999999999999999999 % perfect
Maybe it's because the projects turned out to be mediocre or worse. There's always a reason, otherwise - why did all the games based on cancelled Valve ideas fail miserably?
@@numl4179 Superliminal uses the idea of F-Stop and it has become an amazing game.
@@numl4179 It's more about the games that were very close to completion. I get that concepts get shelved all the time, but to cancel a game that is 90% finished is just strange
@@Pulkz F Stop apparently was shelved because playtesters kept thinking it was a portal game and always asked, where are the portals? Some dumbass explanation to cancel a game, but yeah, Super liminal is good.
Alien Swarm VR sounds a lot like Citadel...
Hmmm
No citadel is probably half life : tactics, tyler mentioned in a previous video that citadel is strategy based game set in the half life universe
And also L4D AR.
Honestly it sounds like Valve have been doing "Citadel" for a long while
Probably Citadel is a mix between L4D AR, Half-Life: Tactics and Alien Swarm VR
Most of these cancelled projects would evolve into another project, seems like the new game is no exception
EA games: Buy boxed cake, slap some store frosting on it and make a pretty design to sell.
Valve games: Get a recipe, cook it 12 times making a dozen cakes of different flavors, textures and techniques, only to come up with one single cake in the end to ever reach the public for tasting.
This is true gourmet cooking
Sometimes they cook 100 cakes from some recipe of which none will see light of day.
@@DanielFerreira-ez8qd Fuck perfectionism tbh, we need to eat something.
@@PalaceDude Cakes are not supposed to be your staple food tho...
@@roumaaan But they also don't come once every 15 years or something. It depends on the example anyways.
I genuinely think that the greatest loss is the Team Fortress show.
Game community alone would grand this show the greatest push in popularity to go on.
@@Crazylom Not to mention the fact, that in all honesty, the only push TF2 needs to be mainstream is advertising. If [AD] had a show and at the end it just says at the end "Play TF2 you dumb shit", the game might have another decade left.
And now TF2 comics is left on a goddamn cliffhanger. Volvo pls
@@Appletank8 Now we know how Half-Life fans feel, eh?
@@Appletank8 never knew a car company makes video game comics
There was no need to twist the knife on the TF comic there man.
bummer that In The Valley Of Gods is shelved :(
Absolutely, I enjoyed Firewatch and was looking forward to this... buying up an independent studio to shelve and/or cancel what they were working on is a dick move imho.
firewatch was amazing it is very sad that they didnt finish valley of gods
The game was so good that it would be better than HL Alyx so valve bought it and cancelled it.
isnt firewatch the game where the dev 'consulted' anita sakeesian?
so what if it is? its not 2016 anymore you can stop pretending that feminist critiques of the video game industry are inherently bad now
tf invasion art looks so fucking cool
and stars of blood, holy fuck, i love this type of stuff
it's sad they never got finished and released
Main takeaway here: my phone rumbles when you move your thumb across the time stamps so this was fun 10/10
yeah it was fun lol
My brain: dont do it, dont do it
you dont want to lose your watch progress
Ah fu
I mean... At least the number 30 has 3 in it, that's saying something, right?
HL3, Portal 3, L4D3 and TF3 CONFIRMED!!1!
@@bgbd182 we got B4B
it also has the number 0
@@slushoknight Yeahh, but I mean B4B is pretty different from L4D. The source engine and valves characters honestly made L4D special. But I'm not seeing the same enjoyment from B4B. Still, if you like it props to you.
Good god that HL3 v2 sounds abhorrent. Don't get me wrong Cremator factories sound amazing, but they can't just completely ignore the Ep2 ending like that. We need a proper follow up.
Great video Tyler!
"Gordon Freeman wakes up in Aperture Science in America and gets Avatar powers to start an uprising with a Cremator factory" sounds like a bad fanfiction
but the borealis one sounds really cool
I swear to god if the follow up is a vr game I will jump off a bridge. I mean if they can somehow convert the core mechanics into vr well maybe I'd play it but oh god please no
@@thepickle5214 I think valve said they would stop working on regular computer games, so HL3 is probably gonna be VR
@@dmgr8756 I almost hope there won't be a half-life 3
So, in a nutshell, Valve never stopped making games; they just stopped shipping games.
EDIT: You didn't mention 2 Bots 1 Wrench, but I think you covered everything else I've heard of.
yeah, i was already asking myself; WTF are doign on Valve, there are no new games just CS GO, what are they taking so long to do.... they were cancelling already finished games.... i hate and i love valve at the same time
@@davidabdielgaliciadelacruz3778 If a developer was cancelling nearly finished games, there's probably a good reason.
Thank you for playing that map that me and our team worked on! 0:00
what map is it?
@@jassx3 It’s called Goldeneye Alyx 007 - Dam (Part 3) I worked on Graphic Design for the map steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2189721764
Stars of Blood is easily the most interesting one of these imo, especially since it apparently ties into the HL universe. It'd be super interesting to experience that world from some distant galaxy or solar system.
looked/sounded pretty dune-esque, which seems very, very appropriate for the world outside of half-life.
I hope valve makes a similar project in the future.
Stars of Blood had so much potential. Even 10 years later it hurts that the project was cancelled
Tbf the game did sound like a Star Citizen type overly ambitious feature creep disaster, but the concept art looks DOPE that I agree with
Valve: We don't release games because their not finished.
EA, Ubisoft, sadly CDPR, and most other AAA companies: since when was that a reason?
the reason is simple, Steam makes money so Valve doesn't care about earnings from their games at all cost
You forgot to mention that the concept for F-Stop later became the inspiration for the game Superliminal.
Also, I'd love to see Prospero become an actual thing at some point. That sounds like the perfect MMO for me, all its missing is solid character customization.
I wanna see the early version of Prospero, it was a first person puzzle / shooter similar to Half Life, but you have psionic powers to control things and fight and solve puzzles. Sounds like it could bridge the gameplay of Portal and Half Life, and maybe join their universe.
All these canceled games are sort of bitter sweet imo. Valve as a company is and always has been a perfectionist, they never want to release games unless it will meet the standard of the games they previously made. That's pretty hard to do when all of their games are amazing (except artifact). So it sucks that none of these ideas have been made a reality... yet, but it means that valve thought that the games would not be good enough, or up to their standard. A bunch of people probably disagree with with that (including me) but we know that when a Valve game does release, its safe to say that it will be pretty damn amazing.
This'll be interesting. Thanks. Happy holidays everyone
Merry Christmas!
Ravenholm has to be one of my favourite levels in all video games to date, to know there would’ve been a ravenholm expansion drives me nuts.
Also TF: Invasion looks like it would’ve been fun, Im assuming it would’ve been unique aliens instead of half life aliens, still sounds fun.
I feel like Half life 3 version 2 with today's technology would be a extremely intresting game on how you can manipulate the environment.
seems interesting to me too
ok i saw the sponsored game and thought "This is a weird looking valve game" only to realise it was an ad...
Tbh, to me that looks way more expected from Valve than that Minecraft one, or the RPG one.
Good to know that "Frag Pro Shooter" is one of the best shooters of 2020, among the ranks of Half Life Alyx and Doom Eternal. Such honest opinions.
Lol
At least they're paying his bills, anyone dumb enough to believe an ad deserves their time wasted
guess the demonetization gotten him hard
If Brotherhood of Arms is nearly done, I think a Valve employee should just make it a passion project to finish it up and release it so the TF community can finally experience that mysterious chapter in TF history.
Invasion was nearly done too, the only reason it was cancelled was they lost interest.
Why does Valve always nearly complete a game then decides to remake or cancel it
yeah i ask myself the same; what we can only do is trusting that valve is doing good decisions for the gaming community
It's honestly probably for a good reason, I'd rather have long pauses to develop fantastic games, than to keep spitting out disappointing shitty ones.
Wow there are more projects cancelled by valve than released lol.
thats not really shocking honestly
@@brianmo2611 no but it is disappointing
That's with every game company, it's just that we get many inside looks at valve. Ubisoft probably started and stopped like 50 games
@@SenhorKoringa crybaby much.. ungrateful too if u ask me
@@UnknownPerson-wg1hw it took 8 years for them to release a new game despite all the work valve putting into csgo
not too ungrateful if you ask me
1:51 I guess someone went to valve and handed them the VR proof of concept CD so they went "Oh okay, we're not doing Episode 3 anymore"
Omg "Stars of Blood" sounds so good, you would learn Half Life Lore in Space
I REALLY hope the last TF2 comic isn’t canceled...
Always assume the worst when discussing Valve.
The half life 3 version 2 concept sounds fantastic :(((
30 Cancelled Valve Games
Number 1: Half Life 3
Yeah... About that..
Time for everyone to be sad because of games that will never come out!
valve is like kanye:
-considered the goat by many in their specific field
-perfectionists who will often delay or straight up cancel a project if it isnt 100% perfect
-so much lost content from both
-fanbase who always complains that they 'miss the old valve/kanye'
-fanbase who also will obsessively study everything they do
-most recent big projects from both considered dissapoints (jesus is king/artifact)
HOLY SHIT, dude we must be on the same wavelength because I have also been thinking about this a lot. Both fans also go crazy for leaks (even if they are small as fuck).
Also, Yandhi = Half-life 3 for sure.
Now if only we could get Donda/a TF2 update...
Well, Valve's last project was Alyx, which wasn't a disappointment
@@alexzz1234 if we aint counting VR
Comparing a spontaneous rapper to a Software Company. Major weirdchamp.
Also
- both worth billions
- extremely successful outside of their main product (steam/yeezys)
- both gabe and kanye are memes
I was always quite fascinated with Prospero. I hope someone does a spiritual successor to that
My thoughts on all this (feel free to comment your thoughts):
Submarine- it would probably be more of an action game than a stealth game, you play as the submarine and operate the crew but not going through the submarine. As they said not focused much on stealth.
Prospero- Think of this as that GMod fan-made movie (War of the worlds one), where you go through servers and play on others creations but you can do a collab and have some kind of an event where it affects the servers by the same enemies or something. Furthermore, you can have a Might & Magic type of story, where you follow one lore but can go to another world (server) and there would be whole different lore for that world, created by the community.
Valve's Team Fortress- Not much to say other than just TFC but different skins.
Threewave- HL: Deathmatch Beta if you will
TF2 XBox- Nothing much, just a port. Differences would be just that gameplay would fit an XBox not PC.
TF2: BOA- Nothing new except I believe that the concept of a 'leader' can work even in today's TF2. IF done right.
CS2 - My theory is that what goose wanted is essentially Rainbow Six: Siege but in the Source engine.
TF2: Invasion- Nothing much to say that hasn't been said already. However, I would like to see a tactical Alien vs Humans game in TF style.
Fairy- Considering Valve is talking about this game as if they are embarrassed by it. It's probably nothing special, I mean think of it this way. You are making a game and then another employee tells you he/she is working on this game where enemies spawn not at random but calculated based on players' decisions and stats.
Episode 3- Nothing much to say except that I would not be a fan of this HL3. More guns? I barely used the Crossbow land along with more weapons. And creating a game based on a single new thing that is a jelly. Nah, I'll pass. In games, a story isn't everything.
TIME- Keep this one in mind.
Margarita- Simple feature that can be implemented in any game. Not much to write home about.
F-Stop- This, previous time thing, and an upcoming fan-made Portal game with a 3rd portal. Combining these elements would make a great Portal 3 game.
Stars of Blood- This is something Valve tried that was popular at that time which were the MMORPGs, unlike Battle Royale (which we got in CSGO as Danger Zone) MMOs are hard to make and it's clear why Gabe canceled it. Would I pay money to play it? Absolutely.
HL3 V1- If Valve didn't want it then neither would I.
Project RPG- If they went with this, this game, or at least it's lore. Could potentially rival that of a World of Warcraft. Shame it didn't get made but it would probably suffer a similar fate as Warhammer online.
Day of Defeat 2- Why Valve? Why? Ok, I know the reason but what hurts to make it. I mean sure if you want an accurate and realistic WW2 shooter, Hell Let Loose and Post Scriptum are your options. But they don't have that feel of a Source engine.
HL: Resource Gathering- Just testing features, nothing much.
HL3 V2- Maybe if you weren't playing as Gordon Freeman (because it kind of doesn't feet the lore) this could work.
L4D3- As Tyler and the people working on it said: Source can't do this, yet. If it could, I am certain it would make for a great zombie survival game. I guess we can only wait and hope they implement this feature in Back4Blood.
L4D Project AR: Valve............... WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!???? Remember when games were FUN!?
TFTV- My theory on why they couldn't work it out it's because of a Source Film Maker. It's simply broken and it has a lot of bugs. Taking a long time making good (or even professional) animation in SFM is normal but not in the animation industry. If they were using a different engine but the same art style we would have TV series. I know the concept of an SFM, meaning that you don't have to make everything from scratch. If you need scenery, you already have it. A prop? Not a problem. But it's because of how Valve works programmers and animators did not see eye to eye. This is my theory feel free to correct me.
HLB- Would be great for an HL VR game, I mean Alyx worked. Why not do the same? Seems fitting for a VR title.
A.R.T.I.- Just a demo but for some reason they wanted to have an SP campaign. Not bad when you think about it. A good story and good gameplay make a great game.
SIMTREK- Would be nice to be released in Source or not. Sounds very fun. With SP campaign and objectives to upgrade your ships, all that in VR. Take my money.
L4D VR- In CEDA HQ? I can understand why they canceled it but it still would be fun to play through. To see it all start.
Alien Swarm VR- Not a bad concept, but L4D AR sounds way more fun.
HL: Tactics- Again probably Valve trying to be inventive and expand to other areas (WiiU and Switch). Seems like a simple game like the card game with some unique things.
Portal VR- If you want to barf, this game would be for you. I mean you are solving puzzles while having a screen glued to your eyes. That's a lot of strain on your brain plus are jumping and flying all over the place. Haven't played Portal in VR so correct me if I'm wrong.
In the Valley of Gods- I can see why. VR and puzzles are a lot better than puzzles and keyboard and mouse (and monitor).
Again, these are just my thoughts. If I'm wrong somewhere, correct me. Would like to start a discussion.
I REALLY hope that Valve didnt cancel the TF2 comic right before the last one....
Hey why did VNN's name suddenly change to Tyler McVicker?
He stopped making Valve news and is just gonna make game reviews and stuff
I love Valve alot, and seeing and hearing about just only 30 Cancelled Valve Games makes me incredibly sad that we never got to experience them. And this is only 1st party, the other half of the cancelled games are gonna make me even sadder. I'm still hopeful that one day we may get to try them out or see more about them. I can't even pick one that hurts the most more than Episode 3 and Half-Life 3, they're my top 2 that sadden me the most just because of the cliffhanger in Episode 2. I love you Valve, but you hurt me. You hurt all of us.
eh most of em mustve sucked if they straight up canceled it, and couldnt find a way to make it work. I mean a whole team of sega got straight up fired.
but i do get what you mean though. I hope someday valve would make an rpg. I kinda wanna see what kind of game they would make if they do make an RPG genre.
My top cancelled games would be
1. Half-Life 2 Episode 3
2. Half-Life 3
3. Stars of Blood
4. F-Stop
5. Prospero
As for the other 15. Not sure.
I used to love Valve when they were just a rag-tag bunch of gamers who created games for the love. Now they're just a disorganised bunch of industry elites who hire and fire on a whim and only chase the money.
@@FlyboyHelosim i mean would you love them the same if they kept making repetetive, uninnovative shovelware? I mean its not like theres Monalisa 2. Theres just 1 monalisa.
@@rattango9819 Well some of their games are already like that for me, so. I personally don't care for anything they've done really outside of the Half-Life series itself.
As upsetting as these are, we can be thankful we got our version Team Fortress 2 and not those generic military shooter ones that were developed in Goldsrc.
Dude, I would be so happy if they came back and released Stars of blood
out of all 30 neon prime survived neon prime must be big
Stars of Blood look so freaking intriguing. Why cancelling such a cool concept???
In the valley of Gods, Prospero.. it seems everytime they have a good idea they need to shut it down.. or buying a studio so they can shut it down.
Loving the video Tyler, great work!
in the valley of the gods was actually looking interesting :(
fuck me this is depressing. Can they at least finish the TF2 comic?
Dude, I miss Tactical Intervention. It was the shit for me back then.
13:16 This prototype sounds very fanfiction-tier and I'm glad they cancelled it, but HOLY SHIT I FUCKING *LOVE* that concept art. I hope they do something like that with Gordon in a future "Half-Life 4" or something
I wish they'd release the TF prototypes to the public, you'd think they wouldn't need to keep them under lock and key after all these years...
a bit depressing how valve has more cancelled titles than released titles
@Dat Boii that's more like price to pay for shit morality in the company. I cannot see anyone being happy for cancelling ready-to-release games. Usually games either get chopped earlier in development; without man-hours and love poured into it.
12:03 - Day of Defeat : Global Offensive - VALVe make it happen!! a CS:GO but WWII with co op campaign etc etc... That would be awesome!! Can someone start a petition? Let's gooo
We were gonna get a TF2 show!? Damn dude, bummer it got shutdown.
It was valve's fault for taking 2 years to make the pilot, then making a 20 minute episode despite Adult Swim's directions stating an 11 minute short, then only cutting it down to 15.
I don't blame Adult Swim for pulling out, despite how sad the news is.
@@pyraffin Oh damn 2 years for the pilot, fair enough
Nintendo contacted Valve? I’m guessing after Half Life tactics was cancelled they wound up never making anything new for the switch, disappointing
Tyler plz bring back the gambling sites instead of bootleg fortnite. I get the hustle but the phone games in particular are kind of annoying
question: is VNN some kind of group or its just you?
Vnn is just him but he has friends and contacts that help him with his research
In The Valley of Gods actually looked amazing. I kinda wish they kept going with it but HL:A is great too. All I can do is hope they decide to give ITVOG or Day of Defeat another chance.
Valve should release all these shelved projects or some to the public and see where people take these
All I could think of is that if Valve manage to fully make source 2 a success, then hopefully all the things we've wanted will finally happen.
As cool as a lot of the stuff Valve does is and likely necessary a lot of the business decisions, I can't help but get a very yucky feeling every time I hear about them buying a talented new indie team and then announcing their game. Lately more often than not the game gets cancelled and everybody leaves, but a company like EA draws massive fire for doing the same thing.
finally having context for the posthuman art is amazing
Seeing as how much Valve is trying to make Portal VR work, I genuinely believe we will see a Portal VR by 2023
Well it's 2023 now and we haven't seen anything yet, but the year's not over and there's still time.
Amazing video dude, probably your best one so far!
I wanna play the aliens vs humans TF2, they should reuse the concept if they ever make TF3
Don’t kid your self they would make tf4 before they make tf3
Nuclear Dawn is so good. Totally underrated game. When I was playing regularly, it was hard to find full servers. It has one of the best, most satisfying game loops with a really great mix of class-based FPS with one player as the commander playing the game more RTS style.
It's interesting to see that the concept was fleshed out at Valve first then reworked into the game we can now buy.
9:07
If you think this sounds fun i highly recommend The Talos Principle
See, now this here is the Valve News I love to see! Good job to both you and Jaycie, and I look forward to the followup you just teased on your discord.
I feel like half life borealis would be a great time for me to play if it existed.
Technically TF2 is on Xbox and Ps3 due to the orange Box for consoles.
VNN probably meant the Original Xbox for when the original idea of TF2 was still being made. Counter-Strike and Half-Life 2 were the only Valve games to make it on the Xbox. Speaking of CS Xbox... VNN should talk about the story behind Condition Zero which more than midway into finishing, they released a "lite" version of Condition Zero for the Xbox. The Xbox version is called just "Counter-Strike" but has the new models, textures, effects, etc of Condition Zero but without the campaign. There are more that VNN should talk about in a video.
This is why most companies don’t give their employees this much freedom, because nothing gets done.
But on the other hand, you get some heavily amazing games when they do make something
Any developer probably has around this many cancelled games or abandoned prototypes though, especially over 25 years
@@jpnrndr7983 facts
@@jpnrndr7983 Nintendo and Sony have strict hierarchy. They are making good shit.
A 50% cancellation rate is actually not bad. You'd be surprised how difficult it is to come up with game systems that work.
Team Fortress Brotherhood of arms sounds like what Call of duty is today
Despite how incredible HLA was, it's really sad knowing that it inadvertently killed multiple promising games (DOD2, ITVOG, etc)
Theres a minecraft puzzle map similar to that portal time recording game.
You should make a iceberg video of Valve
"The rest of the episodes were later incorporated into the stories of Team Fortress 2 comics, the final issue of which, Team Fortress 2 Comic #7, is likely cancelled."
No. No no no no no no.
With the announcement that you're done with VNN, this feels weirdly fitting as the last video under that series.
Half-life: Tactics would fit my tastes. It looks good
The footage is from HL2 mod. An RTS made in the HL universe. Called "Lambda wars"
@@Kellen743 holy shit thanks, imma play it sometime
@@yttriusk you're welcome buddy
i love you two
I really like the background music at 10:20 cam someone find it?
Things get cancelled and ideas get reconstituted, we'll be seeing the very best of these ideas.
Now if Valve would stop self-sabotaging themselves, we could actually SEE some new content for Half-Life in the pipe
You forgot Half-Life: Hostile Takeover
@ImTheGherkinSFM half-life.fandom.com/wiki/Half-Life:_Hostile_Takeover
15:40 this one didn't age very well
TIME 8:50 Works just like Talos Principle does!
we just need to remake those cancelled valve games that was related to portal and half life series (or both) and also L4d so we can have fun
I would've loved to say a new Day of Defeat :(
When I hear about cancelled games I hate this because in most cases it means that we never gonna get our hands on it. I hear what the game was supposed to be and then be like "now I want to play it, if only it was never cancelled". Many fan-teams are willing to finish some of these cancelled games if given the chance.
alternative title: How to Get Depressed
0:14 HEY! Ricochet was a fun game for its time.
Half life 3
Left 4 dead 3
Portal 3
Team fortress 3