Why Valve Doesn't Make New Games Anymore
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- Опубліковано 6 гру 2023
- Valve is responsible for some of the most iconic games in gaming history. So where’s Half-Life 3? It doesn’t make sense. But when you take a look at Valve’s history, it all becomes clear. And there’s still hope we might get the game we’ve been waiting a decade for.
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I've been playing Valve before Steam came out. CS 1.6, TF Classic and HL2 all the way is the peak. Also Orange Box is the second peak. I love these videos, they are so unique!
tf2 2000 hours and counting. and honestly that is rookie numbers
I think TF2. its an amazing game w/ a unique artstyle
*You was wrong. did you watch it to tyler mcvicker 30 valve cancelled games video ? that man know about valve everythings.*
so basically, half life 3 will never come until valve comes up with some kind innovation that it can use half life to demonstrate
edit: and no, half life alyx doesnt count. hla is like some weird limbo of half life 1.5 and 2.5
Yeah, since they don't need to create games just for profit other incentives take the priority.
straight on point, unfortunately though that means no one knows when half life 3 releases, because no one has a release date for innovation
@@timecubed yeah it's rly difficult to predict what meaningful innovation would get valve to make hl3.
hl1 proved that you can make a linear fps with a plot
hl2 demonstrated proper gravity physics
hl:a was valve's hat in the VR ring
so now what? we wait for the source 3 engine? but even if somehow, I was right and hl3 will come once we develop the source 3 engine, what innovation would source 3 do?
Welp it aint gon come out on source 2 since alyx already took that spot, and we're pretty sure source 3 aint never comming
@@Hyde-dg7ef Half life 3 for Steamdeck exclusively. It will use Gyro features, really cool idea especially for racing sections.
Fun fact, when Gabe worked at Microsoft, he was a producer for Windows 1, 2.0, 2.1, and then left right before Windows 3...
If i had a time machine i would go to the past and go to his kindergarten so the teacher can actually teach him HOW TO COUNT
So that's why he had a TRIphobia.
Nah he also worked on 3.0 he also didn't "leave" he was fired. He 0-dayed 3.0 by accidentally leaking it, which resulted in his termination from the company.
@@nikushim6665no wonder he hates the number 3. he has ptsd
@@nikushim6665 So he is scared of the number 3
What makes valve so good is because its a private company and the head of everything is a gamer by heart
I fear the day Gaben steps down from his throne.
Very true. Their decision to stay private bodes very well for consumers. They could've easily made an IPO and rack in a ton more money but it seems like they care about autonomy and quality more which is really rare to see.
@@mifiamigahna i mean, gabe is no longer living in US & stay at NZ, His age is no longer in prime condition for gaming industries. That mean he no longer handled Valve
He's getting old and also the dude is not prime example of a healthy physique. The day he retires, is the day PC gaming dies. Valve will be sold to the highest bidder and it will all be over
lets just assume that his successor will be great too. @@stuff4ever
Whenever the number 3 is mentioned, Gabe feels a unmeasurable amount of pain.
He screams "weewouweewou!"
Look up his birthday 😮
💀💀💀@@frischfisch6217
@@frischfisch6217 oh god, NOOOOOOOOO! -gabe newell annual quote
I believe Valve's jump from games to hardware was absolutely necessary because it brought fourth a new era of handheld gaming. The Steam Deck was a HUGE push to make other companies pop up and develop handhelds besides just Nintendo and I think that technology wouldn't have advanced as fast without it.
I do agree with valve advancing to hardware. For a company as rich as them it does seem nessecary to stay in the loop
BUT
Left Team fortress 2 to die to update drought and a bot crisis, now they shove tacky slop into it every 3-5 months.
Left half life sitting on a platter for 13 years and when they finally did something it was a VR exclusive(Still a good game but a kick to the many half life fans who don’t own headsets).
Left 4 Dead 2’s last major update was 3 years ago which was community made. They also scrapped L4D3 completely.
Portals last(Major title) installment was 12 years ago.
I’m fine with valve focusing on hardware but Jesus Christ they really need to pay SOME attention to their properties that are played by millions if not BILLIONS each year.
The only two games they remotely keep up are Dota and Counter strike because of how massive they are. If valve were to suddenly stop caring people would start an even bigger outcry.
@@DaRealDemobirdI do agree with you, however i dont think portal needs a third title. The second one ended the game in a satisfying way, it doesnt need a third one.
@@DaRealDemobirdportal history ended, just play the game, people hate companies doubling down on history ends, just to profit, and where we are wishing valve to make exactly that
@@quan-uo5wsI dont get PPL saying "Portal 2 has a perfect conclusion* like bruh portal also had a ending
But they changed it to make portal 2
They can do the same for next portal game
@@vilian9185 Yes I do agree that portal should stay ended. But valve milks the shit out of the brand you’d think they would just make another one at this point. Plus we still don’t know what happened to the scientist after the comics (The one who put chell in Apeature in the first place).
1. Valve co-developed Left 4 Dead with Turtle Rock Studios, they committed roughly 100 staff members to its development and were involved throughout its life cycle. To say it was made by Turtle Rock is inaccurate.
2. Portal is a Valve original product, it just uses a mechanic from Narbacular Drop. That doesn't stop it from very much being a Valve game through and through.
fr, Back 4 Blood is what a Turtle Rock Studios game would look like without Valve.
Portal used a bit more than the portal concept, the Narbacular Drop development team worked on the first game. Don't know about Portal 2 tho.
@@chpsilva after they were hired. The only thing that remains in Portal from the original game that got them interested was the portal concept. With the other games (e.g., TF, CS) they kept a lot more than a single feature.
yeah, crowbcat's video on Back 4 Blood and Left 4 Dead is probably a perfect video to show how important valve's involvement was with the Left 4 Dead Games.
which is straight trash @@f.b.l.9813
A good way to summarize what Steam did for Valve.
Literally gave them a life time of money to spend all the time they need on projects.
No rush to release games on a time or have publishers breathe down their neck.
Would be interesting to see Valve bring HL: Alyx to PC, but somehow innovate the feel of VR into gameplay.
they just decided to not turn passion projects into cash cows, but to make a cash cow to fund passion projects. hl alyx is very much a passion project imo
Dota 2 was their real last project. Artifact and the rest are just demos, even HL:A.
@@damsen978 That makes no sense
It does. They're games for testing the waters and see if people like them. Very niche genres too.@@emperorfaiz
I've been taking notes and I finally got it! We gotta make Half Life 3 by ourselves and wait for Valve to hire us!!!!!!
Yeah, finally
Bro unlocked the formula
Valve games are always fun to play, i still find myself playing some of them from time to time
Half life and Portal and team fortress 2 are so fun to play endless fun
I've enjoying Playing then since 2012 because their way more fun and timeless.
Valve can save mobile from Chinese like Tencent, hoyoverse etc evil capitalize which we think evil like ea , Activision etc but are just copying Tencent evil modle. Like valve made BP on Dota but Tencent copy it made efficient evil capital version of Dota BP on epic & mobile game now every west studio has it. they experiment on mobile game like skins or BP to link with meta changes, slow brings evil solution to pc. They even tried to experiment win fps cap to add hidden pay2win. Like valve made skin on csgo but Chinese too it to next lvl added hidden pay2win like hidden aim assist . Chinese are spending crazy money in gaming because they can make crazy robot like devs army just like they own most of manufacturing chain buy abusing capitalize efficiently. Tencent name have become so evil they change name to lots of different name & new publisher
same, I just replayed half life 2 few days ago
I came back to wanting to play a quick fps game and tried to load up CSGO to find out it was CS2 now, but it's broken on my PC for whatever reason it crashes. So I just decided to load up CS1.6 again and have been having a blast a couple nights a week playing like I used to as a teen. And my kids are playing Portal 1 right now. The games are dated, but timeless in mechanics.
I looked at your channel icon and thought Valve was uploading a video on why they don’t make games anymore, which just seems like something they would just do, which makes it even better 🤣
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Counter-Strike 2 Initial release date: September 27, 2023
Half-Life: Alyx Initial release date March 23, 2020
ok i guess?@@blackironseamus1017
@@blackironseamus1017 HL9³ FOR 2027 CONFIRMED!!!!111!!!1
@@blackironseamus1017 I guess it should be: Why valve doesn't make new franchises
I think the scarcity is part of what makes Valve's games so good.
They're not being forced to develop a game they don't want to produce.
The fact that they can produce it on their own time, especially when they get to flex their latest innovations in games technology, seems to be what gives Valve games their polish and loved jank.
On top of that, you'd get bored of it if a Half-Life game was released every year.
passion projects make the best games imo. Alyx was very much a passion project from the dialogue, the characters, and all the fun things in it
I'm pretty sure they talked about this too. SOmeone (or gabe himself) said that they WANTED to make a new Half-life game, and even tried to, but they lost interest because it felt forced onto them due to the demand and such. (and also probably the fact there wasn't much new to it in terms of tech)
The way i see it, the Entropy: Zero 2 team has a good chance of getting hired by valve. If you dont know what that is, its a half life 2 mod which tries to evolve the story and push the narative of the game. Its the closes thing to a 3rd part of the game and i truly believe that they have a chance of being hired or atleast noticed because they really made a fantastic mod which feels like a separate game.
While i definitely would not be opposed to it, I doubt it will happen. It definitely does connect opposing force and portal to half life naturally (when it never did feel natural) but i also think it messes with the cannon to much for Valve to actually cannonize. Unless they want to go a way different direction in Half Life 2 episode 3 or half life 3
You watched Pyro's video.
@@gevurahel I knew about entropy 2 even before his video and I even did a presentation on it in my class, although it wasn't nearly as long or detailed as pyros. But yeah I knew about the mod before he even played it
Valve doesn't need a bunch of modders to evolve the story of the franchise they started. If Valve wanted to they would released the 3rd game already. They obviously already have the money, talent and manpower to do it but it's not in their interest to make it at the moment.
@@hazzmati obviously they don't need modders but im saying their efforts can get them hired by valve that's all
I think the main things that makes valve so good is that they just know their customers better than anyone else, they are willing to do things just for the sake of making things better for the consumer and they try to add or improve things that you didn't even know you needed. For example, a relatively recent update added some new features in the steam overlay such as being able to take notes while playing or pinning windows to show in game, this is something I think most people wouldn't think they would need until it's there and they realise how convenient it is, but this directly doesn't make them any money. They do what they can to improve their service as much as possible because they know by providing the best service with the best features for their consumers they will end up making more money.
The Nintendo 3DS had a Game Notes feature too. Valve makes money from these features by giving you reasons to buy games on Steam instead of Itch, Epic, GOG, the Microsoft Store, the Mac App Store etc.
@@tainttracker7556 A funny extra feature here is that Steam is also one of the only platforms of the one you mentioned where you could still launch a game through Steam if it is bought on the other platforms.
Valve is kind of a proof that private companies get to keep their integrity, while public companies generally succumb to the greed of investors.
Valve doesn't need useless shareholders
they just know their customers better than anyone else" are you kidding? they doesn't wants to give sequels , they don't care if we wait for em or not
Having a revenue outside of making games (Steam) helps them to stay profitable without having to resort to making games every year, a privilege which other game publishers doesn't have
i respectfully disagree that companies need to make games every year to stay profitable, maybe indie ddevs, ubisoft, EA, etc only do for greed, look at rockstar 10 years to make a new major release of gta, they learned to make money from gta online, but people don't hate they like they hate EA, is possible to profit without shit games every years, or excess of predatory praticles
Ikr, they made more than 13b$ per year only with Steam alone. The greatest selling game of all time: GTAV made more than 8b$ in 10 years of it timeline.
@@vilian9185 for all public companies its obligatory to make profit every year, so shareholders dont sue them. That why we see games like Call of Profit(Duty) every fcng year with main focus on multiplayer and aggressive microtransactions.
But for private, including indies, it fine not to make profit every nanosecond, if they happy with income, like game made few millions dollars, they can shutdown company and live their lives dont bothering about work anymore. Public companies cant, they trapped, investors is a main problem in gaming industry.
Rockstar is part of 2k, not independent company.
And it's the exact reason Epic Games is their only true competitor. They have a similar thing going with Fortnite. And they will burn as much Fortnire-cash to get the Epic Games Store up and running as they need to, because they see the value of their own store. They want two money printing machines.
Other Game devs and publishing houses have tried the same or similar, but they just don't have as much expendable cash to burn as Epic has right now. And thus inevitably failed.
@@z0bi_ other game devs tried setting up shop but they don't have a good game to anchor to, unlike valve with cs, tf2, l4d and dota or epic with fortnite. EA tried with battlefield but that sucks. Ubi tried with R6 and that went bad after 2 years
Steam is by far the most overlooked thing in Modern Gaming. Just last night I was preparing for a Test in my computer and without my permission, the Epic Games launcher starts updating fortnite automatically, causing all my files to hang so bad. Sometimes you just don’t know how good a thing is when you used a different product
Open Task Manager > Startup Apps > Disable Epic Games everytime running when you open PC. You can also turn off the discounts & advertisement banners pop whenever you start inside EGS.
@@prateekpanwar646 even better: don't have egs or fortnite in your computer at all
@@guacojoznei5133 even better: don't have computer at all
@@prateekpanwar646damn that's definitely better 😢
Only reason I have Epic Games is the free games or stuff that isn't on Steam. Steam is the better launcher / manager for titles.
I think the part where Valve let the community do it for them is a little misleading, they really work and create the titles, sometimes changing almost everything in the project (this is the case of Portal, the only thing from the original project is you go through a portal and exit another). One good example is that Turtle rock studio claims they are the creators of Left 4 Dead, but if you count how much employees Valve had in Left 4 Dead, you could easily say its a Valve game, loved by players and commercial success. When you compare to what games Turtle Rock did alone after they split with Valve, only commercial failures (Evolve and Back 4 Blood).
I think the best way to put it that Valve sees the potential in other developers work, hire them and work together to bring something amazing.
This is the comment I was hoping to see. Valve developed L4D in cooperation with Turtle Rock, they committed somewhere around 100 employees to the project and were involved throughout its life cycle. They didn't just show up at the end to slap their logo on it, it's very much a Valve game. Like you said, this is obvious enough when you just look at Turtle Rock's subsequent attempts to make a game without Valve's co-development.
Valve is focusing on making Windows Compatibility Tools for Unix and Unix-like systems since 2012. They're the ones who made gaming on Unix systems as good (sometimes even better, for example; Dying Light on Laptops) than gaming on Windows because theyve made Proton and contribute money and code to the Wine project. Windows Compatiblilty Tools help devs and unix gamers, so, I assume when they perfect that in a couple of years (hoping that microsoft doesnt make a big change in their NT Kernel), well most likely be seeing Half Life 3.
Well, it's doing it not without self-interest. It wants to free up gaming and Steam from the Microsoft platform monopoly. Hence basically making a separate OS for gaming.
They also took their hard lessons from the steam machines to heart and proved upon on it.
Valve is focusing on CS2
@@alexxx4434Gaming operating systems are cool. I use Garuda Linux its has all the optimizations that a Linux gamer would want out of the box (BTRFS, zen kernel, grub with snapshots preinstalled for easy recovery, maintence apps for everything, pre-compiled AUR packages to save time and computer resources, a privacy oriented browser with Garuda Linux's own searXNG instance as the default search engine and Dark Reader and uBlock origin pre-installed, and Garuda Gamer to install everything related to gaming from a GUI)
we won't see HL3 from that. That is not the type of technology they show off in their games. It's not really visible and doesn't really change gameplay other than the fact that it can be played on Linux. HL1 showed off their GoldSrc engine, with scripted sequences, more advanced animations, and unprecedented levels of interactivity. HL2 showed off their Source engine, with incredible (at the time) graphics and a real time physics engine. HLA showed off their Source 2 engine and how well they've made it work with VR, with incredible graphics (given that it runs well in VR) and a new physics engine built by them. HL3's new technology being "it runs on Linux despite being developed for Windows" doesn't sound very impressive, even if it is.
We'll see HL3 once they really have something new to show. And once they are confident enough to continue the story...
Never played Half-Life before. Literally tried it last year. I have no idea how they did it but I haven't had this much fun gaming in a long ass time.
I was blown away when I first played HL1 in 1998. This game was ahead of its time
The fact that it's still a fun game after all of these years shows how much love they poured into it. I played it for the first time a couple of years ago and it was amazing. Other games from my childhood on the other hand have aged very badly. It's difficult to enjoy these games even with the nostalgia. Half-Life manages to be good even without the nostalgia.
I can't believe you forgot Valve's greatest game
Ricochet
Why would you say this
I mean its not bad u can have fun with it
Im pretty sure Valve has tons of tech demo's and proof of concepts inside their doors, they just wont work it out or release anything they deem unfit for Valve's reputation. They care about games still, but they are really careful with their brand.
You are correct. They have a hyge graveyard of games that never saw light of day. I thought that was public info but some youtuber covered it. They scrap like 10 projects for every game that gets released. In truth, not being accountable and their pursuit of perfection kinda ruined their ability to make games. If they didnt have steam, theyd have gone out of business long ago
If Half Life 3 comes out, it'll be an even bigger anticipation of a game then Cyberpunk or GTA VI combines. Probably.
Who knows what would happen to the internet if Valve out of nowhere dropped even a small teaser for Half Life 3.
"combined" nice pun lad
Cyberpunk maybe but i dunno about GTA6 even if the game (Half-Life 3) will be a revolution in term of graphics, gameplay, story. Open world is a trend and Valve is already abandoned their game for so long man.
I don’t think HL3 can compete with GTA VI in terms of recognition and popularity as a significant portion of gamers have grown up without any traditional HL Games. Although the impact HL3 will have on the industry will be far greater than GTA VI.
People still care about gta? Maybe back in 2014-2019 I’d of believed that but nowadays i don’t think any of the minuscule hype I’ve seen for it so far will last
@@naufalt.a8796We're still here
To my memory, Gabe has been partaking in neurological research and its connection with gaming. Considering Valve seems to only make games when it's innovative (HL1, HL Alyx on VR) I think HL3 will incorporate VR with controller-less gameplay. Why use your hands when you can use your brain? I figure Gabe wants to make the first true alternate reality experience, straight out of a dystopian future. Amazing.
So HL 3 will be "Be the Freeman"
@@panduvandalyou mean Half-Life:Freeman
Im not interested in vr.
Please…valve…make a normal game for once
So it will fail and be a disappointment for many. Cool
So basically this will never happen. And we won't get another true valve game.
It needs to be said that they don't just "buy successful games": L4D got improved immensely through valve playtesting and staff, as demonstrated by Back4Blood, which had no valve support.
It's not just the technoiogy that made Half Life top the charts, it was it's over-the-top storytelling and intricate world concept, that even at 50%, it'll make a lot of AAA titles today look like an episode from Sesame Street.
They can take all time that they need. We came to such state when we are actually not waiting for anything from them but when they release something, I know it'll worth my time and money because well.. it's Valve. Valve never ever released an awful game. Every their game is precious and will find its fans.
As far as I can tell, Artifact wasn't bad either, but it wasn't good. That's another thing they strive for, not just "good" games, but great games
@@mellowdarkness3344 And it probably wouldn't be laughed at so much if it wasn't revealed in such a bad way.
@@mellowdarkness3344 I've heard that the core gameplay of Artifact is good, the problem is that it's just VERY niche
@@anakinlowground5515 Yes, this exactly.
It is absolutely fantastic at what it does...
...but nobody actually wants what it does.
Valve decided a long time ago they wouldn't make a new game until they could truly change the landscape of gaming. Got to a point where the hardware wasn't allowing that. So time to make hardware.
People keep saying Valve doesn't make new games and then they released Alyx. Merely 2 years later all of that just come back again lmao.
Alyx was a stupid gimmick that uselessly retconned the story and elucidated nothing, didn’t move the story forward. It is reasonable to not accept bullshit microwaved leftover tech demo nonsense that shits on previous story that people actually care about more than stupid ass gimmicks. And if you care more about the gimmicks then fine have fun in your VR goon chamber for the rest of your life praying to Gabe!
Nailed it at the end.
Valve became a massive business after being a platform. Steam no longer has an unfair advantage with platforms like Blizzard, Epic Games and more creating their own alternatives. That's why I think them going into hardware is a way for them to become a dominating platform again (Steam Deck, VR, etc)
Ah yes, and those platforms still sell their games on steam
Valve moved to VR before EGS was a thing, and Blizzard alwas had their own launcher...
Same for the SteamDeck, it can be traced back to the Steam Machines, way, way before EGS or any serious threat to Steam's dominant position (I'd argue that, currently, there still is no threat) .
Not only that, in their move to hardware they kickstarted their competition too. Oculus was basically kickstarted by Valve, HTC VR division was kickstarted by Valve, and Microsoft VR efforts lived only thanks to Valve supporting them, to the point of having the Reverb G2 basically borrow half the design from the Valve Index. Even other companies like Sony prototype their own VR systems using Valve's lighthouses tracking for their prototypes.
Same for the Steamdeck, as open as it can be, no secret sauce, they even ported the handheld interface to windows to replace Big Picture, allowing competitors to use it for their Windows based handhelds.
PS Even in the digital storefront market Valve helped competitors by giving free keys to devs to sell on other, competing, stores. I've bought more games for my Steam library on the Humble Bundle store than I did on Steam.
The world can not end as long as Half-Life 3 hasn't released so Valve is actually just keeping the world alive
Love your videos man! I think we have a lot in common and half life was absolutely before and after in gaming.
The owner of Valve is living his dream. He and his team created revolutionary game titles several times, created a platform for gamers to buy and communicate with one another, and then released their very own console. This is the literal definition of growth. He’s slowly becoming the guy who created Gregarious Games in Ready Player One. Half-life 3 was a sacrifice for innovation to be made and if we never get another Valve title so that the industry can be steered in the correct direction by actual gamers, then I'm with it.
In my eyes, as far as Valve games are concerned, in my eyes, Valve can do no wrong.
They've pumped out timeless classics I'll be playing quite literally until I'm no longer on this planet or I'm not physically able to game anymore.
Their games, most notably the Left 4 Dead and Half Life series have such a special place in my heart. God bless the studio and this team.
This is the idiotic blind cult like devotion I have come to expect. Keep sucking up to your overlords as they shovel garbage in your mouth.
There are always multiple answers to this but one of them is probably the Steam revenue. From my view, I see they are trying to maintain the steam platform by supporting the community on their platform and capture newer potential market outside of window. That is why the steam deck exists and so is Steam OS which is build upon Arch Linux, a distribution of Linux. Since window now has multiple competitors like the Epic Games Store for an example. I don’t know, this was just my opinion.
idk man, they made steam machine(using linux) 10 years ago, competition didn't existed, they made proton(what steam deck use to play windows game) 5 years ago, before any competition
Epic Games Launcher is so far from being a competitor
@@off1cial_.19 to be honest about that game store ( EGS ), it just felt barebones with features. Steam just felt more than just a game store, it’s an entire community or a social app itself. I’m just saying even if Epic Games Store is not a big competitor yet, at least Steam is still testing new grounds in the market and not being anti consumers about it. That’s something good to see.
Nearly all valve games are instant classics. They have more "classics" than multiple companies combined. And i think they want to keep it that way. Especially with their crowning achievement being the Half-life games, pushing boundaries and setting new standards with each release
Valve followed a similar path as ILM. Instead of just showcasing special effects in Lucas films, they established themselves as a special effects house and sold them to anyone that could afford the technology in their movie. In doing so it also spawned other studios and helped create thriving special effects industry. VGalve can make infinitely more money as a software distributor than they would ever make as a game studio. It also gives them money to take on any project they would like without worry about deadlines that currently plague the industry with subpar games on release.
The fact that half life 3 will come out only if there is a big pivotal point in gaming as now they only release stuff from the half life universe once they are aware that a new set of hardware is easily able to be able to consumers makes me think they already have an idea on what a potential half life 3, portal 3 or even tf3 could look like. The only thing stopping them is we haven't reached a nother pivotal point in gaming history for them to want to release one.
A bit of a correction, they get 30% off of every sale not just every game. DLC in such as well
Playing HL2 right now. Gordan's escape from the city in the boat is a brilliant sequence. Valve paces their games without overdoing or undercutting anything. I smile every time I see the factory smoke stack crash into the water.
Actually🤓 Left 4 dead was originally a mod for counter strike called "terror strike" it was just bots with knives but valve thought it was that fun they hired turtle rock studios who originally had worked on the bots for cs and had the idea for left 4 dead. Then they helped them improve the bots AI and help them craft a full game around it.
It's the year 2533, Valve has just announced that they've finally collected all the infinity stones needed in order to make Half-Life 3 happen. People are happy. You've reached the good ending.
OMG Bro that screenshot of Valves webpage from 2003. The nostalgia of just seeing that nasty green theme. Now I have to see if I can change stemes current theme to the OG for the feels lmfao
All valve game developers is stuck at updating CS2 to the high standards of its community
This is not true, only 20-30 people worked on CS2 before release.
In terms of Half-Life 3, I think we're actually closer than so many people realize. I think the next innovation Valve is gonna start pushing is probably AI in their games (for NPCs or their game director) or a Linux based distro as a standalone OS for their users. I think either of those things will 100% come with a HL3 and most likely in the next 2-3 years. I would not be surprised if Valve is looking into utilizing AI to make more believable NPCs and an OS designed to free up enough resources to give that theoretical AI the best chance at working.
Well you said Half-Life 3, that's another 3 years added on to your prediction, and now I've said it, so that's *ANOTHER* 3 years.
I remember when I see theme on forum about "When HL3 will release". With vote 3 option - 2007, 2008 and 2009. And I see it at 2009 and think, "nah, maybe 2011 or something" :D
I'd like to believe that Gabe's strategy is to create awesome and affordable hardware like the deck to make tons of money and then advance technology further. After that, Valve would have capable hardware to run the next gen engine on which HL3, and possibly other games, would be built on. A guy could only dream...
I just finished the video and... yeah
I mean, they released HL Alyx 3 years ago and have since been working one multipe titles: CS2, Neon prime and HLX (which according to recent rumors might be a sequel to HL Alyx and will be released with the Deckard).
Still waiting to see Neon Prime in the future and the current status of project codename "HLX"
@@naufalt.a8796 Especially cause they have registred the name Neon Prime at the beginning of this year.
2:44 tbf Literally like 95% of the developers were from Valve. Back4Blood shows that much.
I personally don't think the need for technology innovations will be necessary for them to make new games forever, and I don't think they've lost interest in being games developers entirely. What I do think is that Valve is at a little bit of an awkward spot in their growth as a company. The direction they seem to be moving in is to carve out their own place in the industry. They don't just want to be making games, they want to be making the hardware those games are played on. They want to be more like Sony, Microsoft, and Nintendo, but on an even bigger scale. Valve seems to be moving in the direction of not just existing on the PC games market, but being the hardware manufacturer for the PC's themselves. That's what the Steam Deck basically is; a portable handheld gaming PC.
Once Valve has comfortably reached the point where they have reached their place in the hardware market, my speculation is that we will start to see a bit more of a trickle of games coming out again. Not a sudden surge like the floodgates opening or anything like that, but something of an end to the drought nonetheless, and all of these games will be made with Valve's own hardware in mind.
I wish more people acknowledged source filmmaker, there is still nothing quite like it, and as a kid I would watch so many sfm shorts.
It might sound like a stretch but I think Source Filmmaker did more to get people into 3D animation and filmmaking than actual 3D films.
So... We just need to find or create innovative technology and give to Valve so they will make new game (probably HL related) to promote that tech.
i like how we justify valve laziness in making games by anything..ThEy JuSt NeEd NeW tEcHnOlOgY....YEAH F OFF..with that logic we would still only have like gta IV valve just sits on ass and still gets praised
would you rather valve be sensitive about the games they create, or make soulless cashows like every other company, EA, Activision, Ubisoft etc@@catgaeming2025
hey!what is the first 2 trailesr you used in the vidio?i really want to know!
I remember when Half Life came out... There was nothing like it. From the opening moments it was clear I was experiencing something special and revolutionary.
I am currently playing playing half life alyx and its by far the best vr game .
By the credits of that game, I was on my knees
@@mr.shplorb662 woah 😨
Makes sense. Remember that tiny Portal spin-off they made to help introduce the steam deck?
yeah sure lets buy like 500€ hardware to play small portal spin-off
@@catgaeming2025 You can still play the game without the steam deck
I think they should try nonuclidian geometry. That might be the big enough push
They can already do that using Portal 2's world portals. Stanley Parable makes heavy use of it.
Honestly, Steam gives them a huge advantage of they ever make Portal 3 or HL3 etc etc...given how much they get from the platform, they have damn near endless funding for game development. Honestly I think that's why the overwhelming majority of their games are a hit. Aside from hiring talented developers, the teams are given as I said relatively unlimited funding.
"We use to make games, now we make money."
fun fact: uncle gabe is actually one of the first trying brain interfaces in the hope to put it in hardware... this stuff is from a decade ago but imagine valve releasing a vr headset that can do everything without controllers..
But wouldn’t various stray thoughts cause such a control system go haywire? Sounds very annoying. Possibly not even possible to do, though.
Dumbass gimmick. Who cares.
Good games and hardware take time to make .They are in the lucky position that they don't have to rush anything out or compromise to keep the lights on. It wasn't a surprise to me when the released Half-life Alyx as a VR game for the launch of the Index and It is likely that they will release something for the Deckard. Maybe not on lauch but its likely they are working on something. I recon they will release something next year to co inside with apples new vr project, there headset would be in the sweet spot for PC VR enthusiasts between the expensive apple product and the low spec quest3 light.
All I can think of is how heartbreaking it must be for the acquired game devs that thought they were joining Valve to make games. There's a reason Back 4 Blood exists and not another Left 4 Dead. Those devs split away to do what they originally joined valve to do.
Half-Life 3 was officially canceled in 2015 which is why the story writer came out with epistile 3 in 2017 due to frustration.
That is the closest we will ever get to an official continuance of the series other than alyx
Valve doesnt make a new game mostly a half life game until they know that said game will push the limits on gaming.
Half life 1 pushed fps games as a whole.
Half life 2 showed off game physics possibilities.
And most recently half life alyx which showed that vr games have potential to be just as good as flatscreen.
I hate to say it as i loved the half life games but half life is kinda a glorified tech demo. Pushing/showing game advancements
What font is used for the title Counter strike in this frame? 2:27
Looks like the original 1.0 cs font
I think half life 3 will be VR related and they will probably want a glove type control piece and maybe some for the feet. They want to leap forward not baby stems seeing as steam is them. I really believe they have gone as far as they can go with first person shooters.
I think steam really wants to do something like "ready player one". Something like a full body suit that's like the movie industry that could track the complete body. That way character creation could be a huge part of the game maybe something like cyberpunk could benefit from that.
I imagine a game where you're able to do near limitless motion in a space to control the game. I think the ultimate goal is a body tracking system for all VR games and could be the next valve half life game.
So basically diving in cyberpunk where you can dive in cyberpunk. Literally becoming cyberpunk irl
not to be that guy but gmod isnt a valve game
Valve needs to make another VR game, Half Life Alyx was good but it was the skin of the apple, it not even scratched the surface of what VR is capable of. It was a great game and the best VR has to offer as of now but there are so many things it could expand on that would yet again change how players view VR.
valve didn't make CS, it was a mod for HL (which indeed was made by Valve)
Speaking as someone who spent time in the game industry both as a studio and indie dev, considering all the turmoil as of late with studio shutdowns and IPs being canned, Valve should put some of their money into making a "Steam for game devs", a way for small / indie studios to be able to fund their projects. It would create an even bigger market of games for Valve to sell on Steam, and would help ensure the industry doesn't create miserable living conditions for the people actually working on the games.
They literally dropped counter strike 2 a few weeks ago lol
That doesn't even count as making a game, they just updated the engine and deleted bunch of stuff from the previous version.
@@bezdomny5882waw so if i make a remaster of a game it doesnt means im making a game at all
@bezdomny5882 they rewrote the code for the new engine but yeah technically not a new game
Cs2 is lietrally the same game with major update.
Even league of legends changed more in 10 years than cs2.
CS2 is kust updated and rebranded CSGO
Every Company that sees the first billion dollars is gonna get "lazy". Valve is no exception. If they were true and honest "Gamers" actually caring about games, whether they work on other projects or not, they could atleast give "their" games an Update/Fix or something for a breath of fresh air. Best example: TF2's current situation. Bots, cheaters, a few bugs here and there, weapon balancing. Same with CSGO's cheater problem. VAC isn't up to date anymore. I hope they go back to the roots and approach these issues on the games which made them famous in the first place... Even if Steam makes them billions every year...
´´They won´t make it just to make it´´ is a very nice way to put it, its somehow comforting that there is still game company out there that doesn´t massively produce games just because they can. This makes every valve game a classic which you can´t say about most of games.
My hopes for a portal 3 is very high. I guess the team at valve have said that have a decent idea of what to do for a new game in the series tho I’m not sure if that information came out before desk job came out or after..I really pray for portal 3 to come out.
Valve isn't a game company, but a software company.. They just so happen to be amazing at making games
I mean idk they did make hardware multiple times
@@baconandx1858 yeah but like, same goes for games. Sure they made a few video games but it's mostly to showcase the source engine, or how good steam as a launcher and a quality video game marketplace is.
I mean why else did they make half life alyx right after introducing source 2?
Hardware is sort of like a side thing tbh. they don't focus on it. Besides it's still a pretty good idea to make a steam deck, portable gaming was an open market so valve took advantage of it and got a bunch of sales
@@pissedoffbucketguy9115 i'm pretty sure they were a game company until source 2. that stuff was unstable so they didn't dare to create any games on it for like a decade. thing's changed when hl alyx got the interest of the majority of the employees, so in order to develop it, source 2 was consequently improved.
here's hoping this would turn them back to a game company
@@pinuss I think it's that they started off as a gaming company, and went onto a different path since they realize they didn't need to depend on their games to make profits.
Like that one song with the lyrics "The valve has been corroded by the money" (aka steam)
Though being optimistic isn't all that bad. Half life alyx, csgo source 2, and the handful of updates tf2 is getting could be a sign of bigger or notable things in the future. But yeah they mainly focus on software
A valve can be rusted by steam.
just think about it, every Half Life is related to the engines
GoldSrc - Half Life
Source - Half Life 2
Source 2 - Half Life Alyx
and looking at this comparison, I'm pretty sure that when Source 3 is ready, Half Life 3 is not long to wait
No Half-Life 3 is going to be on source 2 (if it ever comes out)
I want the story to continue.
The gadgets you play the game on are tools.
I want Half Life 3 because I want to discover what happens next.
Left 4 dead 3 would be so legendary, and half life Alyx exists soooo
Valve's likely product path.
1. Steam Deck (portable high-end graphics) - DONE
2. Wireless VR Headset akin to Apple Pro quality (light weight, processing streamed from the steam deck)
3. Orange Cube (Half Life 3 VR, Team Fortress 3 VR, Portal 3 VR)
it may not have seemed like it at first, but the focus on Steam and hardware was a power move for the greater good of gaming in the long run, and I'm grateful
I'm at the point I don't care about innovation or some sort of next gen engine, platform, etc for half-life 3. Hell I'll even jump on a printed script of the story if they never even make a game. I'm just tired of waiting decades for a story to be wrapped up. It's like going to the super market and constantly seeing your favorite food not being sold because the store wants to give you the "freshest quality". At first it seems reasonable, but after time and time again of being promised and never getting delivered.
For example; Duke Nukem Forever. Waited years for that game and even though it wasn't the best I still enjoyed it as a fan and am happy that it got published. Was it as good as it was supposed to be? No, but that's because the devs kept scrapping the project because they wanted to do the same thing as Valve which is to make it with new updated tech. I appreciate the developers putting fans in their minds for a product but they also need to see that fans aren't too choosy when it comes to getting sequels.
tldr; I NEED HL3
Little Fact Valve Does'nt know how to count to 3
SteamOS on steam deck is version 3 checkmate
Cause value can’t count to 3
If Valve releases Half-Life 3 only for the steam deck they’ll break my heart. I had to wait multiple years since HL2 was released as my PC at the time couldn’t run it. When I eventually got to experience it, it was otherworldly. I still remember how terrifying was that first ever visit to Ravenholm, or the battle against the gunship in Water Hazard. Valve could release HL3 in Source 1 engine and most of us would he happy.
Steam Deck is literally a laptop merged with a controller. If it runs on Steam Deck, it will run on any PC.
@@Skeletons_Riding_Ostriches the idea behind my comment was HL3 released as Steam deck exclusive. That would be pretty shitty
I never considered 'the lab' a game. I've spent hours and hours in it. Got a quest 2 because I was excited for VR, used it for a few hours, then put it on a shelf. Got the Index and have used it regularly since and The Lab is what got me hooked, more than HL Alyx, even though my all time favorite game in my life was the original HL.
My money is on AI integration. If you've seen the Skyrim mod that uses ChatGPT to implement improv conversations, then you can imagine what a fully socially interactive Half-life 3 could look like.
dont forget the company culture that the higher ups have set in stone is a big factor in the lack of new games
"its easier and safer to sit back and have steam bring in the big bucks than to actually make a new game"
im honestly astounded Half-life Alyx even came out with how much the top dogs were against making it
Valve also give out quite a bit of money to Linux developers from Kernel development to the KDE Desktop. I have a feeling they are going to release more Linux devices, probably have another go at a console like PC, it would make a lot of sense a lot of people are put off with PC due to having to deal with the OS. An added benefit is much of the stuff just runs better under Linux, it's getting to be a joke now compatibility layers run games with less stutter than actual Windows which is insane.
Thanks Valve.
nice editing, very well made video
artifact from a gameplay standpoint i would argue is not a miss. in fact it was fantastic. but the problem with it is the target audience for it does not care. they were marketing it as a "DOTA 2 card game" but DOTA players don't give a shit about some card game. they just want to play some more dota. and the fact that it's paid also limits the potential player base. i mean hearthstone is free why not try that? and all of this is coming from a 5k hour dota player. i'm not saying it's not valve's fault that it failed, but the game is doomed from the start. if IRCC they dint even advertised it.
Funny enough, Artifact failed because it was a Valve game.
People were pissed that the first Valve title in years was just some card game. No one wanted to give it a shot because of that disappointment.
It was a failure mostly because of their monetization model. The game looks great for it genre tho. 2018 was the worst year of Valve.
If the game failed to appeal to its target audience then it was a miss.
Not even close man. The entire problem with Artifact was that it took a already p2w genre of card games and somehow made it 10 times worse. With a box price on top of that lmao.
You actually debunk your own point. Hearthstone got card game players to play it despite being based on RTS games and WoW. Which they would not give a shit about that universe but that didn't stop them from playing it. Artifact was flawed as hell and everyone could see it.
As what I see people say, "Valve makes glorrified Tech-Demos. not games"
lol, i agree, but these same "glorified tech-demos" are claimed as the best of their genre, and are played for decades, even if the ode are so bad that it don't even run good without configs(looking at you tf2), so in the end it's is fun and well made, what's the problem?
Have you seen someone that playing a Tech demo in many decades after released? Don’t listen anything on internet bro, some KOLs said something dumbshit and it’s going viral, that’s all. I remember no one has problem with Xen level in Half-Life 1 before, but right after Gaben himself claimed “Xen is the worst level in Half-Life”, people start shitting on Xen after that 😅.
”We just gotta wait them to innovate”
Insomniac games: ”what do you mean wait, we do that shit all the time”
well one could argue that they still do. its true they might be focusing more on hardware at the moment, but half life alyx came out fairly recently for a valve game and the latest counter strike to modernise it. i would say they arent as active as in the tf2 or l4d days but they are still working on games and other projects. half life alyx - Final hours is a good thing to look at to see the projects that they had going on in 2020
edit: well with source 2 that came out recently, i wouldnt understand why they would make a new engine without the idea of new games
Steam money, next question.
I had an email conversation with Gabe about a year ago. We talked about the future of VR, and apparently he’s really interested in pursuing brain-computer interfaces.
I’m guessing that a proper BCI experience is his baseline for HL3. We are still a long way from that tech though.
Valve even created the first battlepass system ever lol , i think they just want to make something that will remarkable.
You forgot lootboxes and item marketplace
4:43 Imagine forgetting about Half-Life Alyx, a full-ass game released in 2020
He mentioned it like 10 seconds later lol
I honestly consider Half-life 3 to be a worthy sacrifice for the massive improvements Valve has made to PC gaming as a whole.
Remote Play Together adds online play to games that never supported online multiplayer. As long as the game has two players, you can play it online because of Steam.
Steam Input brings gamepad support to every game on Steam, and makes them customizable to a degree that gives even cheap controllers premium features.
Because of the Deck, Big Picture Mode is now essentially a fully fledged console OS. You can set up a living room gaming machine and the only thing you have to do to have a fully functional front-end is install Steam.
Proton has made it so I don't even check compatibility for games before I buy them anymore, I honestly just forget that I'm using Linux and these games are made for Windows.
We might have lost 12-15 hours of an interesting game and the conclusion of a story, but what we've gained is priceless. And also less price since they're all free features, most of which console players have to pay a subscription for.
Imagine if Valve made a open source game engine
For any game to get success it needs to have 2 things:
1)easy to learn mechanics
2)but hard to master mechanics