I have this bike. Took me some time to warm up to it. Takes some time to engine break in. About 1500 to 2000 miles. But man I’m in total love with it. This bike is pure fun. To me, this is a Jetski on land. Built for fun. Fast, snappy, smooth yet aggressive. The sound is delicious and the oil smell that comes out of it is addictive, I will never get rid of this bike. Will be a classic one day. I will buy other bikes, but will always keep this one. But that’s just me. Others may not like it.
Exactly similar thoughts I have too. Takes warming up to it. Just crossed 2000 miles on the clock and now ‘I feel it’. Recently done a suspension/rebound re-tuning too. Makes you feel ‘its mine’. A nice ‘attachment’ to have for the life of your riding days. Definitely try out various settings on the suspension and rebound clicks. Personalize it to feel what it can do for you. Makes a lot of difference on the roads. Enjoy!!
Just had my 1 permit for a week and I bought the r ninet pure for my first ride, tbh despite its size/power and weight its a very well balanced comfortable ride, I'm not experienced like this guy here but I feel confident (not overly in way to get myself hurt) but just enough to get on it and go, I love it and have no regrets and understand my learning curve may take a while longer than if I started with a smaller ride, I'm happy though
@Adamant totally, I'm in love with riding this thing, I'm for sure more confident, especially with leaning with my turns which was my biggest hurdle, the bike at first seemed heavy but now it's more normal to me, it feels solid to me rather than heavy, i believe its about 480 lbs and im 170-175 at 5ft. 9 inches and its perfect for my height, being able to have a flat foot on the ground is reassuring for when i first started. Im more relaxed, definitely lost the death grip on the grips and tense shoulders, im confident adjusting my self while in motion and looking back to the traffic behind me. The motorcycle has been very reliable, I ride during rain, twice with a little snowfall and obviously mostly sunny days some of which are very windy. I'm up in New England so its cold now but that hasnt deterred me from using the bike over my car. I use the rain mode on those not so dry days and it works well, I definitely feel the difference when I put it on dynamic mode It's punchy, quicker and I love when I hit the throttle the feedback from the boxer engine. Understanding the bike and all its movements has helped me become more confident, I trust the physics behind riding a motorcycle and with little nervousness accelerate and lean in my turns, like i said earlier that was my biggest hurdle and trusting the physics helps a lot. I do ride during a busy commuting time and make deliveries on my motorcycle, my experience with others has been mostly good, only twice people "did not see me" on the road and could of resulted in a accident not my fault, you have to be a defensive rider and I share the road in my towns, especially during the winter season when people dont expect a bike. I mostly ride in city and towns, it's super rare I'm on the highway but purchased a small wind shield to help with aero for when I'm going higher speeds like 75-80. Still getting used to windy days going at higher speeds. But yeah love this bike and it's always fun to go out there, I don't have anything bad to say about my experience except that I may buy a second bike, a lighter bike something closer to 350 lbs maybe lighter so I can really push myself on cornering and be a bit more of an aggressive rider like on tracks, I feel like maybe a lighter bike could be more fun and help me with my maneuvering of the r9t.
This bike is amazing … it’s my first bike … and I’m gonna keep it as long as possible … I don’t feel any need to change or upgrade … when I’m riding it , the bike disappears , giving me the feeling of riding a magical carpet
I own the 719 model you tested in Spain, and riding the bike with such character that the engine brings, but just parking the 719 among other “cookie cutter” Japanese and even Italian Ducati’s, they all disappear because EVERYONE gravitates to the Frost Black/Aluminum 719, the Pride I have in owning and Keeping this Bike, is what it’s all about in Motorcycling. 👍
I've been a BMW guy for long but please, don't compare with Ducatis,these R90s are nice bikes but priced way too high for what they offer,perormance/quality wise.
There are some great journalists out there. Some of my favourites include Ari henning, Rennie Scraysbrook, Michael Neeves, Al fagan, Chris Eades, Chris Northover. Mat you Don are right up there with the best. You are both brilliant!
Another fantastic review of this bike. Thank you for the comparison between the two models; I can hear in your voice that you are grinning from ear to ear while riding them both! Can’t remember how many times I’ve watched you tear up the road in Spain on the 719 model. Fantastic riding, heart-felt exuberance, and journalistic art.
I have a 2018 Urban GS, it’s “only” my third motorcycle but it’s just such a joy, I test ride other bikes and they feel like toys. It’s not perfect, but 24k miles in it still feels new, or more like a long time best friend.
I absolutely love the R9T. Some of the best things about it are subjective, it’s looks and the way it makes you feel but for me I think it looks stunning and riding it makes me feel wonderful. Other bikes do this too but it’s this that butters my bread.
Yup, full agreement from me. Objectivity matters but subjectivity probably matters even more when it comes to loving a machine like a bike. It lights my fire too.
Had one of these for a couple years, easily the most fun bike I've owned. What an absolute blast! Only sold it because I wanted a better long distance bike, so I got an R1250R which is almost as fun but way more comfortable.
It's definitely one of those bikes where you really shouldn't knock it till you tried it. I'm not a fan of the aesthetics of a boxer engines, nor completely sold on the feel of a shaft final drive, BUT, throw a leg over a R Nine T and immediately you notice how easy it was to get a leg over the flat bench seat, how easy the handlebars fall to hand, how natural the foot-pegs find your feet. Fire it up and you're greeted to the lateral rock of the whole bike, blip the throttle and listen to that deep farting sound. Set off and notice how intuitively it points you at the intended path, twist the throttle and feel it squat it's chassis down and fire you forward like a cannon ball, prepare for the corner and feel confident at the precise braking feedback, drop it into a turn and feel the low centre of gravity transition with total authority, ease and confidence, hold any given line, roll on the throttle allow the linear gob load of torque whip you through faster than you ever thought possible. This thing is an engineering marvel. I can only imagine how a bunch of moto heads at BMW got together and set a benchmark so high that it has shamed almost all performance retros from every other company and the smart ones who have purchased one have no doubt red-faced many, many Supersport riders on regular roads around the world. Easy to ride (and ride very rapidly when you will) easy to handle, easy to slow, easy to steer and easy to live with... The question is, do you like the aesthetic of a boxer BMW or do you not? I envy you if you are one of those who loves its lines.
Exactly similar thoughts I have too. Takes warming up to it. Just crossed 2000 miles on the clock and now ‘I feel it’. Recently done a suspension/rebound re-tuning too. Makes you feel ‘its mine’. A nice ‘attachment’ to have for the life of your riding days. Definitely try out various settings on the suspension and rebound clicks. Personalize it to feel what it can do for you. Makes a lot of difference on the roads. Enjoy!!
I am biased, as I have a Urban GS Scrambler in the garage. And I love it. I love the fact that it doesn’t have a fuel gauge, I love the warble of the engine, it pops and bangs on overrun and provides loads of grunt. It’s great fun at relatively sensible speeds. I did change the rear suspension for a Wilbers set up - which has made a massive difference and I got rid of the horrible off road tyres pretty quickly. Most of all I love the analogue nature of the machine. Mine’s a keeper.
I have a Honda 919 and the rear shock is horrible , Wilber’s has about 3 options from standard road shock , then middle of road (more adjustments) then top of the line double the money of entry level, which (range) Wilber’s shock did you go for ?
Hi, I have the same bike, with the same Wilbers rear shock modification (a still affordable must!), plus the tachometer which gives you a gear indicator (and which really looks like it belongs there). It took me literally years to select my 'back on a bike' model after nearly two decades without riding (ignore the modern Vespa period which I continue to love for completely other purposes), and I am so happy with it: The Urban G/S pulls, roars, rattles, shakes, smells of oil and hot metal, it is really truly a viceral experience, each time. And while I cannot "repair" the electronics of the engine or the ABS, I feel I still can pretty much maintain everything else that is on it. So I reiterate your comment: Mine's a keeper, too!
I have a 2000 model R1150GS and I find even with the half off road tyres that it is one of the best bikes I have ever been fortunate to own. On twisty roads etc it is just a gem, particularly because the front wishbone set up makes it handle so so well and neutrally. However, It doesn't have cruise control and I find the clutch quite hard to pull in now, so I have some arthritis in my left thumb. I had retired from work also and couldn't really afford the servicing cost but I have had a really good 11 years with it. I thought I would buy my first brand new bike. I did a great deal of research and eventually settled on a Suzuki DL1050XT with all the bells and whistles. I have had it out a few times and done a few hundred km's, but in all honesty I haven't warmed to it at all. The feel through handle bars is to harsh (have tried adjusting these, but can't it any different), and it has no character. I really don't know what I was thinking. I bought it last march 2021 and have done 750 km. I haven't touched it for at least 5 months when I had to rearrange some of the things in my garage. I still have my BMW and when I think of riding which is about once a week I go out on it. Life is funny like that. I have decided to sell the Suzuki, and have been looking for a replacement. I was quite persuaded to get a Triumph Bonnie 1200 and every now and again still think it might be nice. But I have also looked at the bike you are riding today and wonder whether I can really afford to own one (servicing costs). It is a tough decision but is after all just a first world problem. Incidentally, I don't always agree with your politics, but make no mistake you are a great reviewer and have a wonderful and articulate presentation style. I have been wondering where the hell you have been as I haven't seen a video recommendation for about 5 weeks.
At the end of the day you will never please everyone , we are all different in what we do and do not like in a bike , people need to start understanding that these reviews are your honest opinion of these bikes , it’s not going to be what everyone wants to hear , but we all can’t have everything our way all the time - I’ve owned many bikes over the years and not everyone has liked my choice , but that’s it at the end of the day …….. it’s individual choice - personally I enjoy all of your reviews , keep up the good work Matt and Don 👍
I own a 2015 R9T. I have 22 bikes. They range from classics like Commando's, Tridents, Darmah and CB750's through 80's and 90's bikes right through to ZX10, Hayabusa and 1100 Tuono. I enjoy everyone for what they are. But I recently came to the conclusion, after a few years of riding them all, that I like my R9T best. Plenty of Torque and power, and an attitude that goads you on when riding it in a spirited way. Just my opinion.
Great review, Matt. I'm a huge fan of the R Nine T Pure. So much of a fan, that after I sold my 2019 Pure after 4 seasons, I bought a Triumph Bobber and 3 months later, swapped it out to a 2023 Pure. Very happy to be back in the R Nine T saddle again!
I had a 2004 R1150R, rode it for 15 years and loved it. I have a 2018 Moto Guzzi V7 III Stone now but would love to have another BMW again, most likely this one.
Ive had many types of bikes over the years my R9T has become a love affair . I changed the shock and tuned the front forks and ended up with the most fun on 2 wheels anybody could wish for Who needs more than 110bhp on any road this bike does it all.
After having the 2021 R NineT "classic" for a year I loved it so much I traded my 2022 S 1000R for a 2022 R NineT Scrambler three days ago to go along with my classic. The R NineT is a very special bike and my favorite bike line out of all the bikes I've ridden over the years.
@@motozest7856 Nothing wrong with the bike. I just didn't gel with it and realized I didn't care for "sport bike" riding any longer. The fragility and cheapness of all the plastic body parts was a turn off, too.
As usual a fantastic, original, honest, and professional review. Mat.. you are definitely my best motorbike journalist... and I regret that in my country there is no one approaching this job like you (maybe in the world). About the topic... I think that you have just realized how wonderful is the matching between a boxer engine and a naked suite.. probably the purest essence of a road bike. I suspect that something changed in you when you tried the masterpiece of this philosophy.... the "forgotten bike" R1250R. Have nice rides and let us have tons of these genuine reviews. Good job Mat. Really good job!
Very, very kind Scattman. Too kind given the talent I know there is in this media industry, but I appreciate the thought. And you might be right about the 'R', because something in the past few years changed me from serial indifference in terms of the Boxer bikes to becoming a genuine fan (in some instances).
How can you not love the beauty of that machine. Raw beauty, in all respects. A true motorcycle lovers machine. Cheers and thank s for a good honest review 😊
I have a 21 standard model I traded the bike for a GS then went back to the dealer and re-bought my standard I truly miss the bike when I didn’t have it I still have it and I plan on keeping it it’s just too much fun thanks for a good review
Thank you Matt, once again a great review and your enthusiasm for the R Nine T is contagious! I have no doubt that it is a fantastic and fun machine, perhaps even my next !
Of course you are completely right. I own a 2010 R1200R and for me, that is the best value for money bike in the world. Virtually the same engine but better looking, more versatile (you can fit panniers a top box and a cool looking screen) and just as rare on the road. I love my bike and despite being 12 years old I intend to keep it at least until 2030. There is simply no feeling like wanting what you have!
Thanks so much for your impressions and opinions, I very much appreciate them. At age 63, I'm downsizing from a H-D Electraglide and this is my frontrunner for a commuter and mid-distance (500 km) road trip machine. At 6' and 95 kilos, is this going to be a crazy transition. I'd disregard the gizmo-tech that I'm losing, as I won't miss it a bit!
I absolutely love my R9T. I'm glad you got to try the Pure to compare and reassert the findings from your previous review which I thought was excellent.
Wonderful review as I also share all your points. I bought the 2020 R NineT Pure w/aluminum tank not to save money over the more expensive model, but because I like it more. I typically hold on to bikes for many years. I think this model will age nicely.
That was a great review, thank you. I loved the Spain review on the 719. To politely and correctly demonstrate the truth through the Pure, reflected the value of maturity and experience under a vale of pressure from those yet to make it.
I opted for a the big-brother version (R1250R with all the extras). I'm on the larger side as a rider and the R9T (though a little more beautiful, especially the scrambler version;) just felt a little too small. These naked boxer machines may not be the most exiting ones, visually speaking - they are brutalist chunks of metal and sometimes more (the new TFT displays) and sometimes less visible technology (like cornering ABS). But you feel ... I don't now, like home on these machines. The tank of an engine is shielding you from every harm. The minimal windshield option is just right to keep the wind away from your head (amazingly comfortable and silent) and the same time keeps it pushing against your chest, so you get all the feeling of a naked bike. The technology saved my delicious parts more than once from serious ambition (there are 143 Nm of torque on the big bike, and this cornering ABS is unearthly good).
As a 64 year old rider I like and continually consider both the R9T derivatives and R1250R as a replacement for my 2018 R1200GS but still haven't made a decision, the GS just does it all and allows me to travel further in comfort and occasionally off the black top to more remote destinations. What attracts me to the R9T derivatives particularly the Pure and Scrambler is the simplicity of the total package whilst having more than sufficient hp and torque for real world riding.
I am lucky enough to have both in my garage. I have the original 2015 R nineT as well as the 2008 R 1200GS hexhead. The GS is used for long trips to the fjords in Norway or the Alps as well as some stunning places in Sweden where I live, and the R nineT is used for the ample twisty tarmac roads through the forrests closer to home. I took out the decibel killers and flapper valve from the standard Acrapovic pipes to give a very nice sound with eargasmic pops and bangs on the overrun. The R nineT never fails to put a big grin on my mug, even on the shortest of rides. The power and handling is a perfect combination for the roads I ride on, and the soundtrack is like Viagra for the ears.
Great review. Your are right Matt, it is a great bike in its own right, spot on when you want vintage look without transporting your weight in tools 😄 I had the R9T Scrambler for 3 years and loved it. I had to let it go because I missed roadtrip 2-up with my best half... and she would not let me have 2 bikes in the garage (probably because "why not having 3, then 🤔"). I loved the character, the sound, the good vibes and the IMMENSE FUN at sensible speed. It is the only bike I had which made me imagining myself crossing the landscapes while I was doing so.
This is my 2nd bike, coming from a Triumph Street Twin. Maybe I don’t know better, but it’s the definitely a treat to ride. Not as nimble as the street twin but the extra power totally makes up for it!! As flr the boxer engine, I think it’s sexy. Not a fan of the R18 boxer engine since at 1800cc those cylinder to start looking like funny wings, but it looks great at 1200cc in the RnineT pure.
If I really had to buy a retro bike, then it would definitely be the R NineT! For me, the best mix of vintage, boxer, cardan and almost timeless design. What I would like, however, would be a cockpit what Harley Davidson has - a round but fully digital display (from me even two) where you then have all today's usual functions. That would be the cherry on top.
I have a 2019 Pure and a few mods to make it look even more retro. I’m in love with it! I’ve had many bikes over the years, but none that I’ve felt that I’d keep until this one. Happy to get more bikes - but this one is staying.
I a R100 ex cop bike , last boxers before they brought them back ! Boxers are weird if you have not risen one ! But once you embrace the weirdness and use it , they are magic !
Seriously considering getting one of these. Probably used, though I like the cruise control on the 2022 model, which I test rode recently. Not sure if adding options makes financial sense but it’s fun how much you can get it customised directly from BMW. Money no object, I’d get a £24 Pier City Customs R Nine T 😃
Thank you for another important video and opinion. I had recently an experience. Tried and accomplish to make Yamaha XSR 900 eighties edition very similar to a ABARTH edition. Enjoyed it for 3000kms and that’s it. I sold the bike after six months of work and increased costs. I was feeling compressed into the bike, but loved the looks of it. Never got to test the BMW R NineT. Found the seat hard. And a lot of money for what it offers. I like the fact that it has a gas tank with 17 Lts of capacity and a boxer engine, which is a master piece of art. The driveshaft, the tyres and the brakes are top quality , it must be that good. I already have in my garage a KTM SDGT and a BMW 1250 RT. The third bike should replace the Yamaha. The bike I spent a lot of time with, just to sell it almost brand new. On my quest to find the third bike, I inclined my self for something different. And looked at the Triumph range. Tested the speed twin and besides the nice looks of it and the better breaks and the race tech tires, it didn’t felt overwhelming as I was beginning to look somewhere else. And just for mind relief I tested also the T120. Loved it. Gave them the money and got my self one immediately. The Bonneville T120 goldline. It doesn’t pretend to be what it is not. It has a way of it’s own and moldes the one who rides it. It’s a marvelous sensation to feel that I don’t need to change a thing in this bike. Am I thinking clear? Maybe not. But I’m very certain of what I’m feeling, the joy of riding. Out of the fast lane but comfortable and amused enough on the back roads . Just feeling very well. Is this weird or something understandable?
Totally understandable Brito, it's why we ride bikes. As individuals the 'why' is subtly different for us all, but none the less valid for it. Your Triumph is a lovely machine, and the rest of your garage sounds pretty cool too! Enjoy your varied riding!
@@IgnitionBikeShow thanks for your thoughts related to my comment. For a moment came to my mind I could be suffering from a slight stroke of old aging😅✌️✌️
I have 7 bikes and my Nine R t is my go to bike, 4th gear is fabulous on twisty for everything virtually low down to top end, only time 109 bhp is lacking is 4+ car overtakes, but that's rare. Only thing it's missing is slipper clutch which it needs, but not possible on its dry clutch set up I optioned it fully billet 1 and 2 and upgraded spokes wheels ,will stand out in the sea of nine t in classifieds if I ever sell it.
Thank you for an excellent review Matt. I love all your bike reviews, everyone of them. They are all genuine!! Especially love this one so much that I run out and bought one for myself without testing it out (hint: have no gear to test and don't know how to ride yet ;) ). Keep up the good work!!
I had an R9t Urban GS and it was an absolute pleasure to ride. Beatiful bike, beautiful sound, beatiful engine/torque and handling. For the UGS, the 2 reasons I sold it was it was bad for 2 up riding (suspension were budget, even for solo riding and I think the forks were the same as on the Sport version, which doesn't make much sense) and more importantly, from new, it was burning 1L per 10000km and was told by BMW that anything under 4L per 10000km was considered normal on these bikes...quite insane for a modern bike. On the bright side, you probably never need to change the oil as you're always running on new oil! :P
Changed the oil and filter on my MT-09 the other day. If I have to top up that frequently I'll be upset. But I'm not wealthy enough to own a BMW, so that's not a problem I'll be encountering any time soon! But otherwise, you're right - fresh new oil and tyres for me on every bike coming my way...
As a owner of a derivative of the Pure ( R9T/5) I'm finding myself reluctantly in agreement with review of this bike. I do also own a Thruxton R and find both excellent handling bikes and much quicker than most riders would think. I'm pretty sure I will soon be in disagreement with you on most things and live will be back to normal.
Mat, you're on the money. No doubt it's a fun road bike, a lot of which has much to do with its quirkiness and perceived imperfections. I also could stare at a loaded 719 R Nine T all day too!
Thanks Matt! Going to buy the one you tested 'lovely' in Spain, b/c of your honest video. Firstly I wanted to go for the all Aluminium one, but now prefere the black/silber/red one you had rented. 🏍️💨 Just love it!
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Love this motorcycle in all its variants, since RSD presented it: 1- the racer is like that gorgeous sister to my already perfect wife, that I met at my wedding day, and now can't keep out of my head; but as any lover, too demanding of my body; 2- The pure is like the porsche boxter: a great motorcycle, but just shows you didn't have the money for the 911, 3- So the original black one is the best choice, I can never afford. 4- option 719 just shows that since bauhaus, German designers lost their way... they are so gaudy and over the top... they even did a golden one, destined for Dubai and other Emirates... wait...you are telling me it wasn't a purposedly Emirati bound model??? Gods.
A bit of bling is okay from time to time, no? Though there are limits of course, none of which will be found in the markets you mention.
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@@IgnitionBikeShow I like Bling... Just look at the shinny bits and bobs of my kawasaky w650... But when it comes to applying gold accents everywhere... Gold isn't even a good material for a motorcycle..., So I would love to see the other 718 options... (Jokes aside, the 719 alu parts are gorgeous, but that tank/idea came before 719 marketing/branding)...
Talking about those cylinders, or the valve covers to be specific, I thought they looked a little plain on my R9T Racer S, so I bought the Roland Sands design covers, they absolutely transform the look of the bike, stupidly expensive for a cosmetic upgrade (£469), but hey life’s not a rehearsal and now I’ve got a bike that to my eyes is absolutely gorgeous 🙂👍🏼👍🏼
I love your videos and for the record, I do take your advice seriously! What do you think of the BMW R 1250 RS versus this bike? You were not as sold on the RS as I recall, but it seems to give you more for your money.
that bike really caught my eyes it looks like a perfect replacement for my mt07, probably i will miss the effortless wheelies but the price is what's holding me back
Ha! I can identify with that. I'd love a R9T but the way my MT-09 wheelies is (admittedly childishly) one of the reasons I bought it. I would go the R9T route if I had the dosh, and just practise a bit harder to master the art of the Boxer Mono - I've seen it done often enough and knowing the bike like I do, I'm always full of respect and admiration when I see it done properly.
im in same position as you well not yet. i have mt07 and thinking of getting r9t. how is r9t flickability? is it as nimble as mt07? and how is the torque? mt07 is a fun machine and wondering if r9t can keep up to the fun mt07 gives
Great review, I had the R9T Urban GS (based on the pure). Fantastic bike, with the engine being the star of the show. I traded it in for an R1250R. While the R1250R outperforms the R9T in many areas (power, on board tech etc), the R9T has a lot more character and I would also say looks better. Horses for courses, both great bikes!
I love my R NineT its an Option 719 variant with the club sport billet kit and vintage paint , its my second R NineT and i will not part with it ua-cam.com/video/_YVp5YPR6nY/v-deo.html
Love the video Mat thank you. I'm thinking of buying one and wondered, since you have ridden both the R nine T and the Pure, what your feelings are regarding the front forks. I always like to get top spec things as I like quality and had thought I might go for the top of the range as I also like the gold forks and all the bells and whistles, but then I also like the colours available on the Pure and prefer the single exhaust, and the fact it's cheaper I suppose, but I'm not sure what the difference in the two front suspensions feels like and if there is much noticeable difference. I haven't ridden either yet and don't know if I'll be able to try them back to back, or even if I would notice any difference! I think the wheel sizes are different as well. Any feedback you or anyone else could give me would be much appreciated. 😃👍 I think I can get as extras most of the goodies, so I'm a bit torn. I'll get a test ride as soon as I can. Many thanks.
I now own a 1972 R75 /5 which I am riding/working on (it is such a fun bike). So I have NO PROBLEM with the boxer, and of course love the build quality (any 50 yr old bike that still starts on first try wins me) . I test drove a 2021 Pure and was really impressed. I am thinking of selling the vintage and diving into the rNineT pool. Your reviews are very helpful. I just need help working through the weight/suspension issues. I like the idea of buying a "blank canvas" but also think that with my 6 ft 105 kilo frame, I may need adjustable rear shocks. Do you think the extra money for the classic is worth it?
Another great review Mat! I'm really drawn to the R nine T range (except for the scrambler version!) but would definitely go with the original despite it being more expensive
I'm looking to get a new motorcycle after not having a bike for 10 years and I'm also 65 years old so I'm looking for something manageable. I am looking for something different than the typical Harley, Honda or Kawasaki and I am considering the R nineT Pure along with the Triumph Street Twin and Moto Guzzi M7 Stone. The thing I don't especially like about the R nineT is the rear styling. If it had a proper old school rear fender I would warm to the look a bit more. I think it looks great from the tank forward but for a retro bike the back of the bike isn't very retro. But at the end of the day I want a high quality motorcycle that is capable, easy to ride and a good value for the money.
Top bike, when I rode the R 1250 R last year I was reminded how this ungainly looking naked bike offers so much more performance than the specs suggest.
You'll either "get" this bike or you won't. It's simply not for everyone, and that's a good thing in my view. However, if you do end up owning one, do yourself a huge favor and protect it with a set of engine guards. You'll be so relieved you did when you (inevitably) drop it.
Don't get me started on the subject of seats... On the other hand there are plenty of very happy seat refurbishes and manufacturers in the marketplace right now.
the problem with the BMW is it's a BMW and not a plastic covered far Eastern 4 or an Italian twin. yes it may be expensive but imho a lovely looking simple bike and who wouldn't if they are honest go top range? Case in point I love configurators So an Indian scout bobber all the bells and whistles £16k plus Indian chief 20k plus so the beemer with old skool charm and a bit of modern tech gets my vote,enjoyed the videos
I had several BMWs along my biking life, this speaks a lot...the last was a R1200R for 4 years, sold last summer...great bike way superior than these R 9Ts,they are nice if you like that kind of look but price is too high for what they offer,imho. 😉
"Way superior"? Do you mean via specs? To me an R1200R isn't worth a second look, I would buy it and get bored of it eventually. Like the Honda I had, or the Triumphs. But my R9T is a very special machine, hard to put into words. You feel you are riding something very special, and I hope I can keep it until too old to ride. My RT is "way superior" for touring, but the R9T stirs the soul and is a blast.
I have owned a 2017 scrambler which I traded in for a GS1200 Rallye which I couldn’t stand the wind noise on so traded for my 2020 UGS in black and gold 719 , it’s the only bike I’ve owed and I’ve owed a few which I will struggle to part with . There are other bikes that do better at certain things but I love my 719 UGS . I think your doubt is right and wrong only because the truth no bike can be every bike to everyone
Too true, everyone is different and the degree with which we love a bike (or anything for that matter) is down to our individual tastes. But ultimately, objectively, some bikes are good, great even. And some bikes (very few these days) are crap.
I have the R1200R 2012, which is the base used to design the NineT on. I « love » the R NineT style but afraid to miss the sidecases & topcase for my weekend touring rides. On weekdays I’m commuting to work with it. In Montreal (Canada) weather can be quite steamy and I felt on occasions my (non water cooled) 1200 boxer engine suffer from it. That said, would you go for a pricier R1250R for it’s convenience or for the affordable bad boy looking R NineT Scrambler if you have to choose ?
Don't you hate t hate? As you get older you may have to wear glasses whenever you want to read anything!! I took a R NineT for a ride a few years ago, it was a curtesy bike while my K1300S was being serviced. I still have the K1300S but as I get older and I stop doing as much interstate riding. The K13 has all the goodies for the time but I don't mind the idea of stripping it down a bit.
I remember the K 1300 S fondly from the launch of the model in South Africa back in '08/early '09 sometime. The head of BMW SA came to watch some of the pics being taken on a sweeping mountain corner and, feeling the pressure and fully leathered-up, I felt the need to rise to the occasion. One of my best pics in a mag ever, proper lean angle, bodywork scraping, knee and calf-slider on my boot scraping, mountainside doom only metres away and you know what? It was easy because in spite of the size and length it was solidly planted when on the lean. Yeah, top handling, proper engine too. But I know where you're coming from in terms of the change - I know I'd choose the R9T if my long distance travelling wasn't such a priority any more.
@@IgnitionBikeShow All true. I have put 120,000km on the K, had it for 8 years. But as I'm getting more retro myself I see the R NineT rather attractive.
Com on man don’t pay no mind to idiots who don’t understand what a real motorcycle is or should be. Maybe the new kind of riders, the younger generation never really experienced the real riding pleasure and only have ridden new bikes with so much electronic aid and enhancements which simply made them bad riders and scared of real machines. Because this bike is for real man, it requires a man to really connect to this gorgeous machine and become one with it. No quick shifters, no slip assist clutch no riding modes and all that shit that makes a man disconnect from his bike and passion to get better and better at controlling this incredible bike. I ride a 2014 roadster top model, it even has less than the one you rode in Spain even though it looks just the same. Still working to improving the beast with very special and expensive components. As we all know every incredible machine can be tweaked slightly to become perfection of its self. I will soon reach that point with my R9T Roadster, enjoy every second on it and keep it for as long as I live. That’s how good this bike is to a real rider who is now 46 and been riding since 13 years old.
hello friend, I'm hesitating for the pure or the scrambler, I like to see the rear wheel, I'm subscribed to your channel because you seem magnificent in your comments and really sincere and thanks to you if there are no unforeseen events I'll buy this bike .. a Greeting from Spain.
I rarely comment too much on riding positions since we're all so different - tall, short, fat, thin, young, old, male, female; you get the drift. I'm 1m 82 and I think the footpegs feel a little too far forward for me, but not by much. And the seat isn't good for much more than an hour. But as a riding position for making you feel as cool as Steve McQueen as you braaap along a winding country road, it's absolutely perfect.
95% - the You Tube channel has its major audience share in the USA, Canada, UK, Australia, India, several non-English speaking European countries, a good few from South America and a similarly surprising (to us at least) number from the Phillipines. It used to be 99% until we started promoting our You Tube channel and the extra post-test SA broadcast.
Doubt only shows you are dedicted to do your best. Which you do. Thank you for that! I had a -17 Pure for two years and did 47000km on it. Wonderful! So why did I sell it? I never keep a bike for ever so needed to sell before too high mileage. Which is silly, knowing if it was a car, no one would give 50k km a second thought. But when it comes to bikes, that's a different story. Maybe dig into that?
Harder life for bike engines with a greater 'tune' in them might be a factor, but I do know of plenty that have turned more than 200,000km without any major problems. I have to say a 2-year 47,000km stint on a Pure is rather impressive!
I really want BMW to build something like this, but with the modern shiftcam motor. They have the R1250R of course, but that bike to a bit to long, heavy and slow steering. Think a boxer engined Ducati Monster.
I have this bike. Took me some time to warm up to it. Takes some time to engine break in. About 1500 to 2000 miles. But man I’m in total love with it. This bike is pure fun. To me, this is a Jetski on land. Built for fun. Fast, snappy, smooth yet aggressive. The sound is delicious and the oil smell that comes out of it is addictive, I will never get rid of this bike. Will be a classic one day. I will buy other bikes, but will always keep this one. But that’s just me. Others may not like it.
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Exactly similar thoughts I have too.
Takes warming up to it. Just crossed 2000 miles on the clock and now ‘I feel it’. Recently done a suspension/rebound re-tuning too. Makes you feel ‘its mine’.
A nice ‘attachment’ to have for the life of your riding days.
Definitely try out various settings on the suspension and rebound clicks. Personalize it to feel what it can do for you. Makes a lot of difference on the roads. Enjoy!!
Just had my 1 permit for a week and I bought the r ninet pure for my first ride, tbh despite its size/power and weight its a very well balanced comfortable ride, I'm not experienced like this guy here but I feel confident (not overly in way to get myself hurt) but just enough to get on it and go, I love it and have no regrets and understand my learning curve may take a while longer than if I started with a smaller ride, I'm happy though
8 months later, care to share your expirience as a new rider untill now?
@Adamant totally, I'm in love with riding this thing, I'm for sure more confident, especially with leaning with my turns which was my biggest hurdle, the bike at first seemed heavy but now it's more normal to me, it feels solid to me rather than heavy, i believe its about 480 lbs and im 170-175 at 5ft. 9 inches and its perfect for my height, being able to have a flat foot on the ground is reassuring for when i first started. Im more relaxed, definitely lost the death grip on the grips and tense shoulders, im confident adjusting my self while in motion and looking back to the traffic behind me. The motorcycle has been very reliable, I ride during rain, twice with a little snowfall and obviously mostly sunny days some of which are very windy. I'm up in New England so its cold now but that hasnt deterred me from using the bike over my car. I use the rain mode on those not so dry days and it works well, I definitely feel the difference when I put it on dynamic mode It's punchy, quicker and I love when I hit the throttle the feedback from the boxer engine. Understanding the bike and all its movements has helped me become more confident, I trust the physics behind riding a motorcycle and with little nervousness accelerate and lean in my turns, like i said earlier that was my biggest hurdle and trusting the physics helps a lot. I do ride during a busy commuting time and make deliveries on my motorcycle, my experience with others has been mostly good, only twice people "did not see me" on the road and could of resulted in a accident not my fault, you have to be a defensive rider and I share the road in my towns, especially during the winter season when people dont expect a bike. I mostly ride in city and towns, it's super rare I'm on the highway but purchased a small wind shield to help with aero for when I'm going higher speeds like 75-80. Still getting used to windy days going at higher speeds.
But yeah love this bike and it's always fun to go out there, I don't have anything bad to say about my experience except that I may buy a second bike, a lighter bike something closer to 350 lbs maybe lighter so I can really push myself on cornering and be a bit more of an aggressive rider like on tracks, I feel like maybe a lighter bike could be more fun and help me with my maneuvering of the r9t.
Screw the haters. This is an INCREDIBLE BIKE!!!!!
This bike is amazing … it’s my first bike … and I’m gonna keep it as long as possible … I don’t feel any need to change or upgrade … when I’m riding it , the bike disappears , giving me the feeling of riding a magical carpet
You were right the first time Mat. The r9t is a special bike. Don’t doubt yourself, you still got it.
I own the 719 model you tested in Spain, and riding the bike with such character that the engine brings, but just parking the 719 among other “cookie cutter” Japanese and even Italian Ducati’s, they all disappear because EVERYONE gravitates to the Frost Black/Aluminum 719, the Pride I have in owning and Keeping this Bike, is what it’s all about in Motorcycling. 👍
You're a lucky chap, may your pride remain strong and your rides safe!
I've been a BMW guy for long but please, don't compare with Ducatis,these R90s are nice bikes but priced way too high for what they offer,perormance/quality wise.
Then a Moto Guzzi appears next to the cookie cutter Japanese and German BMW’s 😂
Can't fault your choice of UA-camr!! Great work as ever Matt....no need for doubts, you're one of the best!
Just an appreciation post for Mat Durrans. Brilliant
There are some great journalists out there. Some of my favourites include Ari henning, Rennie Scraysbrook, Michael Neeves, Al fagan, Chris Eades, Chris Northover. Mat you Don are right up there with the best. You are both brilliant!
Chris northover should teach skills
Thanks James, exalted company indeed!
Another fantastic review of this bike. Thank you for the comparison between the two models; I can hear in your voice that you are grinning from ear to ear while riding them both! Can’t remember how many times I’ve watched you tear up the road in Spain on the 719 model. Fantastic riding, heart-felt exuberance, and journalistic art.
Stunning bike. The engine is the heart of the caracter.
I have a 2018 Urban GS, it’s “only” my third motorcycle but it’s just such a joy, I test ride other bikes and they feel like toys. It’s not perfect, but 24k miles in it still feels new, or more like a long time best friend.
I absolutely love the R9T. Some of the best things about it are subjective, it’s looks and the way it makes you feel but for me I think it looks stunning and riding it makes me feel wonderful. Other bikes do this too but it’s this that butters my bread.
Yup, full agreement from me. Objectivity matters but subjectivity probably matters even more when it comes to loving a machine like a bike. It lights my fire too.
Had one of these for a couple years, easily the most fun bike I've owned. What an absolute blast! Only sold it because I wanted a better long distance bike, so I got an R1250R which is almost as fun but way more comfortable.
The speech (!) at the beginning was more than well done - impressive!
Rambling waffle of an ageing tester I was thinking, but thanks anyway!
My God Mat, you were so good at reviewing motorcycles, you are missed ✊️
It's definitely one of those bikes where you really shouldn't knock it till you tried it. I'm not a fan of the aesthetics of a boxer engines, nor completely sold on the feel of a shaft final drive, BUT, throw a leg over a R Nine T and immediately you notice how easy it was to get a leg over the flat bench seat, how easy the handlebars fall to hand, how natural the foot-pegs find your feet. Fire it up and you're greeted to the lateral rock of the whole bike, blip the throttle and listen to that deep farting sound. Set off and notice how intuitively it points you at the intended path, twist the throttle and feel it squat it's chassis down and fire you forward like a cannon ball, prepare for the corner and feel confident at the precise braking feedback, drop it into a turn and feel the low centre of gravity transition with total authority, ease and confidence, hold any given line, roll on the throttle allow the linear gob load of torque whip you through faster than you ever thought possible. This thing is an engineering marvel. I can only imagine how a bunch of moto heads at BMW got together and set a benchmark so high that it has shamed almost all performance retros from every other company and the smart ones who have purchased one have no doubt red-faced many, many Supersport riders on regular roads around the world. Easy to ride (and ride very rapidly when you will) easy to handle, easy to slow, easy to steer and easy to live with... The question is, do you like the aesthetic of a boxer BMW or do you not? I envy you if you are one of those who loves its lines.
Very good description. I concur.
Exactly similar thoughts I have too.
Takes warming up to it. Just crossed 2000 miles on the clock and now ‘I feel it’. Recently done a suspension/rebound re-tuning too. Makes you feel ‘its mine’.
A nice ‘attachment’ to have for the life of your riding days.
Definitely try out various settings on the suspension and rebound clicks. Personalize it to feel what it can do for you. Makes a lot of difference on the roads. Enjoy!!
I am biased, as I have a Urban GS Scrambler in the garage. And I love it. I love the fact that it doesn’t have a fuel gauge, I love the warble of the engine, it pops and bangs on overrun and provides loads of grunt. It’s great fun at relatively sensible speeds. I did change the rear suspension for a Wilbers set up - which has made a massive difference and I got rid of the horrible off road tyres pretty quickly. Most of all I love the analogue nature of the machine. Mine’s a keeper.
The TKCs finish the look imo but when mine are done , I’ll throw some mutants on it
Understandable bias, I'd say.
I have a Honda 919 and the rear shock is horrible , Wilber’s has about 3 options from standard road shock , then middle of road (more adjustments) then top of the line double the money of entry level, which (range) Wilber’s shock did you go for ?
Hi, I have the same bike, with the same Wilbers rear shock modification (a still affordable must!), plus the tachometer which gives you a gear indicator (and which really looks like it belongs there). It took me literally years to select my 'back on a bike' model after nearly two decades without riding (ignore the modern Vespa period which I continue to love for completely other purposes), and I am so happy with it: The Urban G/S pulls, roars, rattles, shakes, smells of oil and hot metal, it is really truly a viceral experience, each time. And while I cannot "repair" the electronics of the engine or the ABS, I feel I still can pretty much maintain everything else that is on it. So I reiterate your comment: Mine's a keeper, too!
I have a 2000 model R1150GS and I find even with the half off road tyres that it is one of the best bikes I have ever been fortunate to own. On twisty roads etc it is just a gem, particularly because the front wishbone set up makes it handle so so well and neutrally. However, It doesn't have cruise control and I find the clutch quite hard to pull in now, so I have some arthritis in my left thumb. I had retired from work also and couldn't really afford the servicing cost but I have had a really good 11 years with it.
I thought I would buy my first brand new bike. I did a great deal of research and eventually settled on a Suzuki DL1050XT with all the bells and whistles. I have had it out a few times and done a few hundred km's, but in all honesty I haven't warmed to it at all. The feel through handle bars is to harsh (have tried adjusting these, but can't it any different), and it has no character. I really don't know what I was thinking. I bought it last march 2021 and have done 750 km. I haven't touched it for at least 5 months when I had to rearrange some of the things in my garage. I still have my BMW and when I think of riding which is about once a week I go out on it. Life is funny like that. I have decided to sell the Suzuki, and have been looking for a replacement. I was quite persuaded to get a Triumph Bonnie 1200 and every now and again still think it might be nice. But I have also looked at the bike you are riding today and wonder whether I can really afford to own one (servicing costs). It is a tough decision but is after all just a first world problem.
Incidentally, I don't always agree with your politics, but make no mistake you are a great reviewer and have a wonderful and articulate presentation style. I have been wondering where the hell you have been as I haven't seen a video recommendation for about 5 weeks.
At the end of the day you will never please everyone , we are all different in what we do and do not like in a bike , people need to start understanding that these reviews are your honest opinion of these bikes , it’s not going to be what everyone wants to hear , but we all can’t have everything our way all the time - I’ve owned many bikes over the years and not everyone has liked my choice , but that’s it at the end of the day …….. it’s individual choice - personally I enjoy all of your reviews , keep up the good work Matt and Don 👍
Thanks Adam, we agree and we also very much appreciate the support.
I own a 2015 R9T. I have 22 bikes. They range from classics like Commando's, Tridents, Darmah and CB750's through 80's and 90's bikes right through to ZX10, Hayabusa and 1100 Tuono. I enjoy everyone for what they are. But I recently came to the conclusion, after a few years of riding them all, that I like my R9T best. Plenty of Torque and power, and an attitude that goads you on when riding it in a spirited way. Just my opinion.
Sounds like a valid opinion, you'll certainly not hear any dissent from me.
Great review, Matt. I'm a huge fan of the R Nine T Pure. So much of a fan, that after I sold my 2019 Pure after 4 seasons, I bought a Triumph Bobber and 3 months later, swapped it out to a 2023 Pure. Very happy to be back in the R Nine T saddle again!
I had a 2004 R1150R, rode it for 15 years and loved it. I have a 2018 Moto Guzzi V7 III Stone now but would love to have another BMW again, most likely this one.
Ive had many types of bikes over the years my
R9T has become a love affair .
I changed the shock and tuned the front forks and ended up with the most fun on 2 wheels anybody could wish for
Who needs more than 110bhp on any road this bike does it all.
Which shock did you buy?
@@LALOBE1 shock factory France
After having the 2021 R NineT "classic" for a year I loved it so much I traded my 2022 S 1000R for a 2022 R NineT Scrambler three days ago to go along with my classic. The R NineT is a very special bike and my favorite bike line out of all the bikes I've ridden over the years.
What didn't you like about the S1000R?
@@motozest7856 Nothing wrong with the bike. I just didn't gel with it and realized I didn't care for "sport bike" riding any longer. The fragility and cheapness of all the plastic body parts was a turn off, too.
As usual a fantastic, original, honest, and professional review. Mat.. you are definitely my best motorbike journalist... and I regret that in my country there is no one approaching this job like you (maybe in the world). About the topic... I think that you have just realized how wonderful is the matching between a boxer engine and a naked suite.. probably the purest essence of a road bike. I suspect that something changed in you when you tried the masterpiece of this philosophy.... the "forgotten bike" R1250R. Have nice rides and let us have tons of these genuine reviews. Good job Mat. Really good job!
Very, very kind Scattman. Too kind given the talent I know there is in this media industry, but I appreciate the thought. And you might be right about the 'R', because something in the past few years changed me from serial indifference in terms of the Boxer bikes to becoming a genuine fan (in some instances).
How can you not love the beauty of that machine. Raw beauty, in all respects. A true motorcycle lovers machine. Cheers and thank s for a good honest review 😊
Thx John
I have a 21 standard model I traded the bike for a GS then went back to the dealer and re-bought my standard I truly miss the bike when I didn’t have it I still have it and I plan on keeping it it’s just too much fun thanks for a good review
Thank you Matt, once again a great review and your enthusiasm for the R Nine T is contagious! I have no doubt that it is a fantastic and fun machine, perhaps even my next !
Your reviews are the best … period … I have no doubt about it
Of course you are completely right. I own a 2010 R1200R and for me, that is the best value for money bike in the world. Virtually the same engine but better looking, more versatile (you can fit panniers a top box and a cool looking screen) and just as rare on the road.
I love my bike and despite being 12 years old I intend to keep it at least until 2030.
There is simply no feeling like wanting what you have!
The very definition of satisfaction I would have thought. I'm pretty close with my own very modest MT-09.
Thanks so much for your impressions and opinions, I very much appreciate them. At age 63, I'm downsizing from a H-D Electraglide and this is my frontrunner for a commuter and mid-distance (500 km) road trip machine. At 6' and 95 kilos, is this going to be a crazy transition. I'd disregard the gizmo-tech that I'm losing, as I won't miss it a bit!
I absolutely love my R9T. I'm glad you got to try the Pure to compare and reassert the findings from your previous review which I thought was excellent.
Thanks Marcus, it was definitely a mental itch I had to scratch, and I was reassured and grinning within minutes of picking up the Pure.
Wonderful review as I also share all your points. I bought the 2020 R NineT Pure w/aluminum tank not to save money over the more expensive model, but because I like it more. I typically hold on to bikes for many years. I think this model will age nicely.
I had the R Nine T Urban G/S and the biggest regret of my life was selling it. The character of this lineup cannot be found anywhere else
Friend has one of these and it looks and sounds fantastic!!
That was a great review, thank you. I loved the Spain review on the 719. To politely and correctly demonstrate the truth through the Pure, reflected the value of maturity and experience under a vale of pressure from those yet to make it.
We miss you Matt ❤️. Rest in Peace
I opted for a the big-brother version (R1250R with all the extras). I'm on the larger side as a rider and the R9T (though a little more beautiful, especially the scrambler version;) just felt a little too small. These naked boxer machines may not be the most exiting ones, visually speaking - they are brutalist chunks of metal and sometimes more (the new TFT displays) and sometimes less visible technology (like cornering ABS). But you feel ... I don't now, like home on these machines.
The tank of an engine is shielding you from every harm. The minimal windshield option is just right to keep the wind away from your head (amazingly comfortable and silent) and the same time keeps it pushing against your chest, so you get all the feeling of a naked bike. The technology saved my delicious parts more than once from serious ambition (there are 143 Nm of torque on the big bike, and this cornering ABS is unearthly good).
The 1250 Boxer motor is undoubtedly the dark horse of the modern motorcycling range - 143Nm is definitely a chunk of usable, addictive performance.
As a 64 year old rider I like and continually consider both the R9T derivatives and R1250R as a replacement for my 2018 R1200GS but still haven't made a decision, the GS just does it all and allows me to travel further in comfort and occasionally off the black top to more remote destinations. What attracts me to the R9T derivatives particularly the Pure and Scrambler is the simplicity of the total package whilst having more than sufficient hp and torque for real world riding.
Your analysis seems on the money to me. Now the problem is solely one of money, because the answer is obvious - have both sitting in your garage.
I am lucky enough to have both in my garage. I have the original 2015 R nineT as well as the 2008 R 1200GS hexhead.
The GS is used for long trips to the fjords in Norway or the Alps as well as some stunning places in Sweden where I live, and the R nineT is used for the ample twisty tarmac roads through the forrests closer to home.
I took out the decibel killers and flapper valve from the standard Acrapovic pipes to give a very nice sound with eargasmic pops and bangs on the overrun. The R nineT never fails to put a big grin on my mug, even on the shortest of rides.
The power and handling is a perfect combination for the roads I ride on, and the soundtrack is like Viagra for the ears.
i have a unrestored r65 ls done 116 k it still starts and run beautifully
Great review. Your are right Matt, it is a great bike in its own right, spot on when you want vintage look without transporting your weight in tools 😄
I had the R9T Scrambler for 3 years and loved it. I had to let it go because I missed roadtrip 2-up with my best half... and she would not let me have 2 bikes in the garage (probably because "why not having 3, then 🤔").
I loved the character, the sound, the good vibes and the IMMENSE FUN at sensible speed. It is the only bike I had which made me imagining myself crossing the landscapes while I was doing so.
Oh, how the loves in our lives have such direct effects on each other!
This is my 2nd bike, coming from a Triumph Street Twin. Maybe I don’t know better, but it’s the definitely a treat to ride. Not as nimble as the street twin but the extra power totally makes up for it!!
As flr the boxer engine, I think it’s sexy. Not a fan of the R18 boxer engine since at 1800cc those cylinder to start looking like funny wings, but it looks great at 1200cc in the RnineT pure.
Great video, I have a R NineT Pure on order for delivery March 23, can't wait!!
If I really had to buy a retro bike, then it would definitely be the R NineT! For me, the best mix of vintage, boxer, cardan and almost timeless design. What I would like, however, would be a cockpit what Harley Davidson has - a round but fully digital display (from me even two) where you then have all today's usual functions. That would be the cherry on top.
I have a 2019 Pure and a few mods to make it look even more retro.
I’m in love with it!
I’ve had many bikes over the years, but none that I’ve felt that I’d keep until this one.
Happy to get more bikes - but this one is staying.
In love with a bike, I think we can all identify with that.
I a R100 ex cop bike , last boxers before they brought them back !
Boxers are weird if you have not risen one ! But once you embrace the weirdness and use it , they are magic !
Took me a long time (decades) to come around to that way of thinking, but I believe you're right.
Seriously considering getting one of these. Probably used, though I like the cruise control on the 2022 model, which I test rode recently. Not sure if adding options makes financial sense but it’s fun how much you can get it customised directly from BMW. Money no object, I’d get a £24 Pier City Customs R Nine T 😃
Thank you for another important video and opinion. I had recently an experience. Tried and accomplish to make Yamaha XSR 900 eighties edition very similar to a ABARTH edition. Enjoyed it for 3000kms and that’s it. I sold the bike after six months of work and increased costs. I was feeling compressed into the bike, but loved the looks of it.
Never got to test the BMW R NineT. Found the seat hard. And a lot of money for what it offers. I like the fact that it has a gas tank with 17 Lts of capacity and a boxer engine, which is a master piece of art. The driveshaft, the tyres and the brakes are top quality , it must be that good. I already have in my garage a KTM SDGT and a BMW 1250 RT. The third bike should replace the Yamaha. The bike I spent a lot of time with, just to sell it almost brand new. On my quest to find the third bike, I inclined my self for something different. And looked at the Triumph range. Tested the speed twin and besides the nice looks of it and the better breaks and the race tech tires, it didn’t felt overwhelming as I was beginning to look somewhere else. And just for mind relief I tested also the T120. Loved it. Gave them the money and got my self one immediately. The Bonneville T120 goldline. It doesn’t pretend to be what it is not. It has a way of it’s own and moldes the one who rides it. It’s a marvelous sensation to feel that I don’t need to change a thing in this bike.
Am I thinking clear? Maybe not. But I’m very certain of what I’m feeling, the joy of riding. Out of the fast lane but comfortable and amused enough on the back roads . Just feeling very well. Is this weird or something understandable?
Totally understandable Brito, it's why we ride bikes. As individuals the 'why' is subtly different for us all, but none the less valid for it. Your Triumph is a lovely machine, and the rest of your garage sounds pretty cool too! Enjoy your varied riding!
@@IgnitionBikeShow thanks for your thoughts related to my comment. For a moment came to my mind I could be suffering from a slight stroke of old aging😅✌️✌️
I have 7 bikes and my Nine R t is my go to bike, 4th gear is fabulous on twisty for everything virtually low down to top end, only time 109 bhp is lacking is 4+ car overtakes, but that's rare. Only thing it's missing is slipper clutch which it needs, but not possible on its dry clutch set up I optioned it fully billet 1 and 2 and upgraded spokes wheels ,will stand out in the sea of nine t in classifieds if I ever sell it.
Sounds like some lovely mods. enjoy!
Thank you for an excellent review Matt. I love all your bike reviews, everyone of them. They are all genuine!! Especially love this one so much that I run out and bought one for myself without testing it out (hint: have no gear to test and don't know how to ride yet ;) ). Keep up the good work!!
What a great bike !
I had an R9t Urban GS and it was an absolute pleasure to ride. Beatiful bike, beautiful sound, beatiful engine/torque and handling. For the UGS, the 2 reasons I sold it was it was bad for 2 up riding (suspension were budget, even for solo riding and I think the forks were the same as on the Sport version, which doesn't make much sense) and more importantly, from new, it was burning 1L per 10000km and was told by BMW that anything under 4L per 10000km was considered normal on these bikes...quite insane for a modern bike. On the bright side, you probably never need to change the oil as you're always running on new oil! :P
Changed the oil and filter on my MT-09 the other day. If I have to top up that frequently I'll be upset. But I'm not wealthy enough to own a BMW, so that's not a problem I'll be encountering any time soon! But otherwise, you're right - fresh new oil and tyres for me on every bike coming my way...
As a owner of a derivative of the Pure ( R9T/5) I'm finding myself reluctantly in agreement with review of this bike. I do also own a Thruxton R and find both excellent handling bikes and much quicker than most riders would think.
I'm pretty sure I will soon be in disagreement with you on most things and live will be back to normal.
Mat, you're on the money. No doubt it's a fun road bike, a lot of which has much to do with its quirkiness and perceived imperfections. I also could stare at a loaded 719 R Nine T all day too!
Always love your videos and look forward to your unique perspective... keep doing what you do and don't ever doubt yourself ever again!
Thanks Ross, but I'm afraid the doubt will always be there - serves the purpose of keeping me on my toes!
Thanks Matt! Going to buy the one you tested 'lovely' in Spain, b/c of your honest video. Firstly I wanted to go for the all Aluminium one, but now prefere the black/silber/red one you had rented. 🏍️💨 Just love it!
Love this motorcycle in all its variants, since RSD presented it:
1- the racer is like that gorgeous sister to my already perfect wife, that I met at my wedding day, and now can't keep out of my head; but as any lover, too demanding of my body;
2- The pure is like the porsche boxter: a great motorcycle, but just shows you didn't have the money for the 911,
3- So the original black one is the best choice, I can never afford.
4- option 719 just shows that since bauhaus, German designers lost their way... they are so gaudy and over the top... they even did a golden one, destined for Dubai and other Emirates...
wait...you are telling me it wasn't a purposedly Emirati bound model??? Gods.
A bit of bling is okay from time to time, no? Though there are limits of course, none of which will be found in the markets you mention.
@@IgnitionBikeShow I like Bling... Just look at the shinny bits and bobs of my kawasaky w650... But when it comes to applying gold accents everywhere... Gold isn't even a good material for a motorcycle..., So I would love to see the other 718 options... (Jokes aside, the 719 alu parts are gorgeous, but that tank/idea came before 719 marketing/branding)...
Talking about those cylinders, or the valve covers to be specific, I thought they looked a little plain on my R9T Racer S, so I bought the Roland Sands design covers, they absolutely transform the look of the bike, stupidly expensive for a cosmetic upgrade (£469), but hey life’s not a rehearsal and now I’ve got a bike that to my eyes is absolutely gorgeous 🙂👍🏼👍🏼
I love your videos and for the record, I do take your advice seriously! What do you think of the BMW R 1250 RS versus this bike? You were not as sold on the RS as I recall, but it seems to give you more for your money.
that bike really caught my eyes it looks like a perfect replacement for my mt07, probably i will miss the effortless wheelies but the price is what's holding me back
Ha! I can identify with that. I'd love a R9T but the way my MT-09 wheelies is (admittedly childishly) one of the reasons I bought it. I would go the R9T route if I had the dosh, and just practise a bit harder to master the art of the Boxer Mono - I've seen it done often enough and knowing the bike like I do, I'm always full of respect and admiration when I see it done properly.
im in same position as you well not yet. i have mt07 and thinking of getting r9t. how is r9t flickability? is it as nimble as mt07? and how is the torque? mt07 is a fun machine and wondering if r9t can keep up to the fun mt07 gives
If I could have a garage with 5 or 6 bikes in it, the r nine t would definitely be in there. If only I could ride motorcycles for a living.
I would love a third video with a test of the scrambler !!!
Very nice review. I test drove one and loved it. Lot of fun to ride.
What a brilliant and intelligent review!
Great review, I had the R9T Urban GS (based on the pure). Fantastic bike, with the engine being the star of the show. I traded it in for an R1250R. While the R1250R outperforms the R9T in many areas (power, on board tech etc), the R9T has a lot more character and I would also say looks better. Horses for courses, both great bikes!
urban GS! thats awesome. R9t pure is like nothing compared to urban GS
I love my R NineT its an Option 719 variant with the club sport billet kit and vintage paint , its my second R NineT and i will not part with it ua-cam.com/video/_YVp5YPR6nY/v-deo.html
I have no doubts on your ability or the opinions and suggestions which you give on the bike. Please carry on and dont bother about the 3rd rate punks.
Really addictive engines! If I had room in my garage for a third bike it might well be one of these. Good review.
Love the video Mat thank you.
I'm thinking of buying one and wondered, since you have ridden both the R nine T and the Pure, what your feelings are regarding the front forks.
I always like to get top spec things as I like quality and had thought I might go for the top of the range as I also like the gold forks and all the bells and whistles, but then I also like the colours available on the Pure and prefer the single exhaust, and the fact it's cheaper I suppose, but I'm not sure what the difference in the two front suspensions feels like and if there is much noticeable difference.
I haven't ridden either yet and don't know if I'll be able to try them back to back, or even if I would notice any difference! I think the wheel sizes are different as well.
Any feedback you or anyone else could give me would be much appreciated. 😃👍
I think I can get as extras most of the goodies, so I'm a bit torn. I'll get a test ride as soon as I can. Many thanks.
Drove 1 today ❤❤❤❤oneday I'll own one
RIP Matt. I bought my R9T pure on this review ❤
Beautiful Machine
I now own a 1972 R75 /5 which I am riding/working on (it is such a fun bike). So I have NO PROBLEM with the boxer, and of course love the build quality (any 50 yr old bike that still starts on first try wins me) . I test drove a 2021 Pure and was really impressed. I am thinking of selling the vintage and diving into the rNineT pool. Your reviews are very helpful. I just need help working through the weight/suspension issues. I like the idea of buying a "blank canvas" but also think that with my 6 ft 105 kilo frame, I may need adjustable rear shocks. Do you think the extra money for the classic is worth it?
Another great review Mat! I'm really drawn to the R nine T range (except for the scrambler version!) but would definitely go with the original despite it being more expensive
I'm looking to get a new motorcycle after not having a bike for 10 years and I'm also 65 years old so I'm looking for something manageable. I am looking for something different than the typical Harley, Honda or Kawasaki and I am considering the R nineT Pure along with the Triumph Street Twin and Moto Guzzi M7 Stone. The thing I don't especially like about the R nineT is the rear styling. If it had a proper old school rear fender I would warm to the look a bit more. I think it looks great from the tank forward but for a retro bike the back of the bike isn't very retro. But at the end of the day I want a high quality motorcycle that is capable, easy to ride and a good value for the money.
I think it's a gorgeous bike
07 , r1200r . I will ride it until I can't mend it any more. Awesome.
Top bike, when I rode the R 1250 R last year I was reminded how this ungainly looking naked bike offers so much more performance than the specs suggest.
Love the BMW R9T, I currently ride a 2023 Moto Guzzi V85TT Adventure,
You'll either "get" this bike or you won't. It's simply not for everyone, and that's a good thing in my view. However, if you do end up owning one, do yourself a huge favor and protect it with a set of engine guards. You'll be so relieved you did when you (inevitably) drop it.
Great bike but why does the seat need to be so brutal would an extra 2 inches of foam really cost that much?
Don't get me started on the subject of seats... On the other hand there are plenty of very happy seat refurbishes and manufacturers in the marketplace right now.
the problem with the BMW is it's a BMW and not a plastic covered far Eastern 4 or an Italian twin. yes it may be expensive but imho a lovely looking simple bike and who wouldn't if they are honest go top range? Case in point I love configurators So an Indian scout bobber all the bells and whistles £16k plus Indian chief 20k plus so the beemer with old skool charm and a bit of modern tech gets my vote,enjoyed the videos
Excellent piece of Journalism!
Would you please test-ride the Honda CB 1000 R Neo Sports Cafe?!!
I had several BMWs along my biking life, this speaks a lot...the last was a R1200R for 4 years, sold last summer...great bike way superior than these R 9Ts,they are nice if you like that kind of look but price is too high for what they offer,imho. 😉
"Way superior"? Do you mean via specs? To me an R1200R isn't worth a second look, I would buy it and get bored of it eventually. Like the Honda I had, or the Triumphs. But my R9T is a very special machine, hard to put into words. You feel you are riding something very special, and I hope I can keep it until too old to ride. My RT is "way superior" for touring, but the R9T stirs the soul and is a blast.
Is this bike suitable for a new rider? im 6'1 200lbs
Already taken the motorcycle safety course as well
I have owned a 2017 scrambler which I traded in for a GS1200 Rallye which I couldn’t stand the wind noise on so traded for my 2020 UGS in black and gold 719 , it’s the only bike I’ve owed and I’ve owed a few which I will struggle to part with . There are other bikes that do better at certain things but I love my 719 UGS . I think your doubt is right and wrong only because the truth no bike can be every bike to everyone
Too true, everyone is different and the degree with which we love a bike (or anything for that matter) is down to our individual tastes. But ultimately, objectively, some bikes are good, great even. And some bikes (very few these days) are crap.
I have the R1200R 2012, which is the base used to design the NineT on. I « love » the R NineT style but afraid to miss the sidecases & topcase for my weekend touring rides. On weekdays I’m commuting to work with it. In Montreal (Canada) weather can be quite steamy and I felt on occasions my (non water cooled) 1200 boxer engine suffer from it.
That said, would you go for a pricier R1250R for it’s convenience or for the affordable bad boy looking R NineT Scrambler if you have to choose ?
Don't you hate t hate? As you get older you may have to wear glasses whenever you want to read anything!! I took a R NineT for a ride a few years ago, it was a curtesy bike while my K1300S was being serviced. I still have the K1300S but as I get older and I stop doing as much interstate riding. The K13 has all the goodies for the time but I don't mind the idea of stripping it down a bit.
I remember the K 1300 S fondly from the launch of the model in South Africa back in '08/early '09 sometime. The head of BMW SA came to watch some of the pics being taken on a sweeping mountain corner and, feeling the pressure and fully leathered-up, I felt the need to rise to the occasion. One of my best pics in a mag ever, proper lean angle, bodywork scraping, knee and calf-slider on my boot scraping, mountainside doom only metres away and you know what? It was easy because in spite of the size and length it was solidly planted when on the lean.
Yeah, top handling, proper engine too. But I know where you're coming from in terms of the change - I know I'd choose the R9T if my long distance travelling wasn't such a priority any more.
@@IgnitionBikeShow All true. I have put 120,000km on the K, had it for 8 years. But as I'm getting more retro myself I see the R NineT rather attractive.
Please put your hands on the Urban GS 🙂
The tank is aluminum or plastic at base model?
Com on man don’t pay no mind to idiots who don’t understand what a real motorcycle is or should be. Maybe the new kind of riders, the younger generation never really experienced the real riding pleasure and only have ridden new bikes with so much electronic aid and enhancements which simply made them bad riders and scared of real machines. Because this bike is for real man, it requires a man to really connect to this gorgeous machine and become one with it. No quick shifters, no slip assist clutch no riding modes and all that shit that makes a man disconnect from his bike and passion to get better and better at controlling this incredible bike. I ride a 2014 roadster top model, it even has less than the one you rode in Spain even though it looks just the same. Still working to improving the beast with very special and expensive components. As we all know every incredible machine can be tweaked slightly to become perfection of its self. I will soon reach that point with my R9T Roadster, enjoy every second on it and keep it for as long as I live. That’s how good this bike is to a real rider who is now 46 and been riding since 13 years old.
hello friend, I'm hesitating for the pure or the scrambler, I like to see the rear wheel, I'm subscribed to your channel because you seem magnificent in your comments and really sincere and thanks to you if there are no unforeseen events I'll buy this bike .. a Greeting from Spain.
It’s ma bike and I love it🙏🙏 Great vidéo.
Is this better than mt09?
Love this bike, just not enough knee room for us taller knackered older people!
I heard the riding position is uncomfortable with the R9T is that still the case for some people or did they change it at all?
I rarely comment too much on riding positions since we're all so different - tall, short, fat, thin, young, old, male, female; you get the drift. I'm 1m 82 and I think the footpegs feel a little too far forward for me, but not by much. And the seat isn't good for much more than an hour. But as a riding position for making you feel as cool as Steve McQueen as you braaap along a winding country road, it's absolutely perfect.
Thanks for using €. Interested to know what percentage of your viewer's are outside SA?
95% - the You Tube channel has its major audience share in the USA, Canada, UK, Australia, India, several non-English speaking European countries, a good few from South America and a similarly surprising (to us at least) number from the Phillipines. It used to be 99% until we started promoting our You Tube channel and the extra post-test SA broadcast.
@@IgnitionBikeShow thanks for your reply. Really appreciate it.
Doubt only shows you are dedicted to do your best. Which you do. Thank you for that!
I had a -17 Pure for two years and did 47000km on it. Wonderful! So why did I sell it?
I never keep a bike for ever so needed to sell before too high mileage. Which is silly, knowing if it was a car, no one would give 50k km a second thought. But when it comes to bikes, that's a different story. Maybe dig into that?
Harder life for bike engines with a greater 'tune' in them might be a factor, but I do know of plenty that have turned more than 200,000km without any major problems. I have to say a 2-year 47,000km stint on a Pure is rather impressive!
@@IgnitionBikeShow 👍😁
I really want BMW to build something like this, but with the modern shiftcam motor.
They have the R1250R of course, but that bike to a bit to long, heavy and slow steering.
Think a boxer engined Ducati Monster.
Yeah, nearly 140hp in a simpler package like this would be a hoot.