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Hey Ian what a surprise you reviewed a nineT. As a long time owner I can say you nailed it. For 1-2h rides it's great. Excelent reliability as I did rack quite a bit of km on it's first years as it was my commute, and not an issue at about 30K Km. Just some random comments to add to your review: - Not a single storage compartment except for the toolkit that is locked and requires a tool to access. - Installing any decent sidecases removes pillion seat/pegs usability - About the pillion seat it is very unconfortable for anything over 15 minutes. - Maintenence is not complicated, mostly time consuming. Oil access is great, but getting to the air filter requires lifting the tank and removing wiring harness. - More about maintenance. You will need a good set of torx and allen bits and common tools. On the electronics side, a GS911 or equivalent and phone app will set you back 150€, but you can reset service and do a throttle body sync among other nice stuff. - There is a slight buzz at about 5k rpm but normaly the riding range is at 2-4K because the engine feels so strong pulling from low you learn to use it there. Shame you didn't have a tach on your bike to see this. - I feel that the round gauges are a downgrade from the nineT classic dash of the first years. That's a personal opinion. - I would recomend doing the gearbox and driveshaft oil change more often than the manual specifies for the first years. During the first changes I noticed that there is a lot of metal on the magnet and the oil is very dark. Note: the first year of maintenance was done by the BMW dealer... not sure what they really did.
BMW was here in Panama City beach last week. They had unsupervised demo rides!!!!! I rode a R9T with low expectations (I have a Ducati, new Suzuki gsxs1000gt, Harley and touno). And instantly really really liked this bike. Your review was spot on. The lack of all the new must have features didn’t take away but added to the connection to the bike. It was faster than expected. Yeah. I want one now
I loved your comments at the end around rider connection. I have an R NineT and had a R1250GS, I decided to go down to just one bike having had my first child. And to the disbelief of a lot of my riding friends, sold the GS and kept the R NineT. One reason was the much higher resale value of the GS (over what I paid for it), but I couldn’t imagine myself without the R NineT. Taking turns in the twisties was so engaging and exciting, vs the GS which felt like it was doing all the thinking for me… anywho.. great review! Enjoyed watching it, and as a 5-year R NineT owner, I feel you hit the nail on the head with pros and cons.
I bought one of these back in May, and am loving it. I get the point about the budget suspension, but I don't regard it as such a big deal, even after owning bikes with top notch fully adjustable Showa or Ohlins forks and shocks. I was also sceptical about having a bike with no fuel gauge, but actually, it isn't a problem at all. I just reset the trip meter when I refuel, and start looking for fuel when I'm approaching 150 miles or so. Simple!
BMW had a demo day here in Scottsdale, AZ a month ago. I rode most of their lineup and ended up buying a 1250RS a week later. The last bike I test drove was the NineT. I couldn't believe how much I loved driving it. If you ask me, the look, size, noise, character from the boxer motor really made it enjoyable. I LOVED the shake from the start up. Its like I was in a miata with a V8. It was such a joy but I wanted something I could ride up north in AZ and have luggage as well as a passenger for a decent price, thats the only reason I went with the RS. I will buy one of these one day!
Ian, Your comments about getting back to basics and experiencing the true essence of motorcycling with a minimum of technological inputs/distractions really hit home. The shear joy, sensory and emotional, of having the wind in your face and carving through the canyons/curves - almost flying - is hightened on a solid and pure machine like the Nine T. Thanks for another world-class review.
A used R nineT may be the way to go. A buddy of mine purchased a low mileage 2014 (top of the line with upside down forks) last year for about $8k and I can testify it is a blast to ride.
Kent , you are absolutely correct.. The R9T is virtually unchanged since it's introduction in 2014.. pristine unmolested examples can be found for well under $10k...
It’s not a bike for me, but Your review is - as always - very informative and a true pleasure to Watch and listen to. As a viewer, You never doubts, that You are getting good, Sound and objective information abort the bikes You are testing and/or driving. Thanks!
This is a race between a lot of brands as you mentioned. But I would say that if the biker wants this kind of feeling that the boxer engine gives you, is difficult to compare as i find it pretty much unique. Two big oposed big cilindres , like on this bike, only the BMW produces such type of engine. You’ve got the Yamaha and the Kawasaki , the first with the famous Cp3 and the other with the four cilindres very well known by the bikers community and the Triumph parallel twin engine that equipes some of the most iconic Bonneville models of the brand`s range. I had a Yamaha XSR 900 Abarth edition and the engine swiped me off my feet, I was really a fan of that engine, a Queen of the low and middle range revs that gives you immense power sensation and riding pleasure. Besides all that, the boxer engine has also its own identity, the noise it makes working is distinctive also. And for me, this is the engine that pays the tribute to old style engineering of this craft. If that’s what the biker wants, in my opinion, only BMW can provide it. Thanks for the video. Ride safe ✌️✌️
For some reason -- post-Covid hangover, supply-chain issues, who knows? -- video reviews from the major motorcycle sites have become few & far between. And yet, despite being a one-man show, you're producing major content at a weekly rate. Good job, Ian.
Ian thank you for putting really good content out there, I can only hope your channel grows to millions of subscribers. Keep your style as it is unique.
Having recently test rode all these competitors as well as the r9t, I went with the z900RS. Even with the throttle issues the inline 4 is so smooth and materially cheaper than the BMW. Great work on the review btw.
Did the same. For the price the kawi is very well equipped, although I wish it had a QS. It’s disappointing to hear that the suspension and other items are a let down on this bimmer for the price and that you have to pay even more to get the level we have on our RS’s. I feel like the Japanese bikes really nailed it even with the xsr900 as well.
I owned a Z900RS up until a few months ago and loved that bike for so many reasons. Today I took a test on a R Nine T and I have to say that after hearing so many good things I was kind of underwhelmed. I can’t put my finger on exactly why (though the suspension was super stiff) but I just expected more. The Z put a smile on my face from the moment I saw it. I really wanted to try something different but after that I think I will be going for another Z900RS.
Exceptional overview! I bought the 2022 BMW R nineT Option 719 model in early August and I absolutely love riding it. You’re spot-on about the suspension, the upgraded version with the upside-down telescopic forks which is on my model, makes a vast difference in overall ride comfort. As always, many thanks for the comprehensive and well-informed presentation.
My first BMW motorcycle was a 1937 R17, a 750 ohm with many innovations that made it expensive and fairly rare in its day. I paid around $400 for it and it took me through college days without missing a beat. Since, I have owned /5 and later models right up to the last year RS airhead. All good but my favorite was the 1972 R75/5 I kept until age obliged me to pass it to a new owner. It covered 175000 miles in my ownership. I acquitted a new R80 in 2000 and sold it after 6 months. It was a good mototorcycle but bland. I have ridden a Nine T but was never tempted to buy one. BMW continue to make great motorcycles: if I was not so aged and city bound, I would be sorely tempted to buy the model you are testing.
Just stumbled onto this film and your channel and really appreciated the review. I have had my R9T for two years now having come from the 1200GS and absolutely love it, like you say, feels like you are flying. You do need the adjustable suspension and I swapped the rear shock for Wilber’s and it’s so much smoother, improves the overall comfort and corner speed. Glad to have found this channel, loads of great content to get lost in
thanks Ian you’re making me take a step back and be reacquainted with my daily commuter. Have to be honest that I’ve been flirting with the idea of selling it for something a bit more comfortable on longer trips, but I wholeheartedly agree that the pure mechanical nature of it is something i’ll probably miss. the bike grades you on your every move, and it looks so good in person. going to take the bike on more weekend trips for sure and me and my wallet thank you for reminding us of what a great bike we already have 😊
I'm 62 shortly. Ridden and owned motorcycles my whole adult life. Toured tens of 1000's of miles, commuted, ridden for fun. I could never own a motorcycle with a fairing or windshield. The whole point of riding a bike is wind in the face and onto the body. Feeling, seeing, hearing, smelling everything around you, inc heat, cold, pain and joy. Otherwise its just a 2 wheeled car. Great bikes R9T's... Best bikes BMW have made since the 80's imho.
The wind buffeting is severe above maybe 65 on my bike where I start to tuck in. Considering getting something with one since I’m commuting sometimes 2 hours a day. Crazy you did that many miles without one.
Get rid of the cat and the flappy valve thingy and it sounds great . Decat headers , K&N air filter and a short piece of pipe to deflap and you should release a bit more bottom end and mid range crispness and improve the intake and exhaust sound .I ve done it to my twin cam GS [same engine ] .Actually the twin cam mk 3 GS 2010-2012 is a better and more comfortable bike and great for touring and canyon blasting .
I love BMW motorcycles but if I’m looking at these I simply must also look at the R1250R and realize that’s what I really wanted in a roadster. The R nineT is a cramped place to sit if you’re taller than average. It works harder at trying to LOOK cool than it does at giving you an amazing ride.
I've had a 2021 well optioned r nineT Pure for the last 13 months. I added Dart Piranha windscreen, factory tach, Unit Garage handlebars, crash bars, Wunderlich pillion rack, and Mustang solo seat. Spot-on review, only thing I'd add is, I believe the scrambler model also comes without a tachometer. Great job!
I looked extensively at the RnineT Racer before deciding for the Harley Davidson Sportster S. I still think this is a fantastic, simple and beautifull bike. Unfortunately BMWs prices and the fact that they charge for absolutely everything mas it not as compelling. Great review.
Another superb review. I considered an R nine T, but got the Speed Twin. No regrets - better looks, sound, comfort, less expensive, maybe a tick slower, but not enough to justify the price difference. This BMW is a good bike, but for the optioned-out ones, a LC 1200 or 1250 R is about the same price, but a whole level better in every way. I don't buy the big historical connection/explanation for BMW releasing this model - it's a cheapened-down parts bin special using the hex-head engine that was getting phased out for the other boxer models. At that time, BMW saw the trend of customizing a base model, and used it's existing tooling to produce something for that market. As you say, it's still a good, fun bike, but there are better options out there.
Great review. 2021 R nineT Scrambler owner here and have been very happy with it. I use it for a year-round daily commuter and its been an absolute blast. Very reliable, great power and a blast to ride.
I love my R9T scrambler. I bought it to sort of be a little brother to my GS for trips when I just want to play around on a dirt trail or two my way home from work or during a ride. Couldn’t be happier.
I would love an Urban G/S. Too expensive in Thailand with the import duty. Between 1996 and 2010, I did 91,000 miles on an R1100GS. I love the low centre of gravity you get with this engine configuration and the low-end/mid-range torque. The valve clearance check is: first 6,000 miles, then every 12,000 miles. The RNineT range could do with a digital speedo and a rev counter that sweeps around the edge of the dial. They could do with main stands to help with checking the oil. My 1100 used a lot at first and didn't stop using some until 30,000 miles. First-class review.
As a 22' R9T Scrambler owner - it's a great around town bike...anything over an hour or more...the seat is uncomfortable...I did add both 719 packages, extra Tach and knobby tires...so it was 18K+ so did get pricey...I do love mine as the get up and go is awesome it loves living in 4/5/6 gear....I guess since I have a GSA...I like the boxer on it - Great Review as always...spot on!!!
I did an iron butt on my NineT... it can be done. Not saying it was comfortable! Also you could take the baffles out of the exhaust for more sound (I kept mine in). After 7 years of ownership my main gripes with the (2015) NineT are; the battery is hard to access (requires taking the tank off). And tube tires are not great if you get a puncture. The 2015 is very bare bones bike... no cruise, no temperature gauge, no ride modes. But it does have heated grips!
You could add a couple wires and a plug leading to the battery. It's been common on small airplanes forever. That way you can test and even jump it if you use the right wire.
@@paulgraham6353 Thanks Paul. You can jump the bike without access to the battery...there's a terminal you can put the positive lead on, and you ground the negative to a point on the engine (made for this purpose). But changing the battery does require pulling the tank off.
Chain drive vs shaft drive have had the same cost to run for about 20 years now. If you don't "oil" your chain they are not messy. Style wise, I think the r9t looks great and its big and heavy so who cares how the shaft drive affects its handing.
As a former NorCal resident and GSA owner, I dearly miss these mountain roads. I'm in South Florida now and it sucks for riding. Headed to Octoberfest motorcycle event in Daytona Beach this AM. Nice review!
Best retro! Drop the 719 package or get a used R9T. Incredible bike. I ended up getting the LC R120R but only because I tour and wanted cruise, semi-active suspension, ride modes and the tech.
Thanks for this great overview. Your bike is a beauty. I dont know why people complain about the suspension. Ohlins makes cartridges for the front fork and a rear mono shock. Not crazy price and then a cadillac adjustable ohlins suspension. I have a 2023 r9t scrambler and will do that myself.
I had a 2020 R9T/5 Lupine blue anniversary model for a couple years covering 8000 miles. Mostly weekend rides with one 2500 mile week long trip. Unfortunately the bike was stolen about a month and half ago. I had a few options: tachometer, handlebar risers, wunderlich throttle lock, rear luggage rack. The bike is comfortable for weekend rides for sure but a little vibe for 75 mph+ plus I needed an airhawk for seat comfort for day long rides. Even with basic suspension components if your under 180 pounds it works but I agree upgrades needed if your above 180 pounds. The handling really improved with Michelin Road6s, maybe 5 mph better on tighter turns. I've run it at the drag strip a few times and with the traction control the bike can do 11.6 ETs and beat more than a few bikes and scare many more. I would recommend a rear hugger and front fender extension. I loved the stock mufflers sound. I also have a Thruxton R during the same time, a little overlap but different approaches.
I found the nine t to be kinda of soul less . It's very predictable almost clinically. I had the cafe racer version and ended it up selling to buy a ducati and would never go back . Nice review very detailed 👌
Spot on Ian… I’ve had my R9T since 2014 after seeing the bike at Daytona Bikeweek ( when the event was still relevant)… Upside is the pure beauty of a very basic back to my roots riding experience …. No electronic nanny aids or TFT screens… the aluminum gas tank, conventional forks and classic round headlight all add to the nostalgia……..sure the lack of a fuel gauge and the tubed tires are minor downsides…. But those 2 incidentals are easily offset by the reliability and ease of maintenance……As for a comparison to the other “retro” bikes in the segment.. no comparison at all… The Kawasaki/Yamaha/Honda “feel” Japanese and as for the Triumph?… completely prehistoric in appearance and build quality….
@@BERZERKERSV4 what you said has not objective quality what so ever. And you cant compare a Porsche to a corolla. Two totally different vehicles. That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard.
Big Rock Moto: Great video. At the 12:23 mark you mentioned that this bike is moving side to side because of the boxer cylinders, but I believe that this side to side movement on this BMW when you rev the engine is because of the shaft drive (motorcycle which have chains don't do that). I happened to own a Moto Guzzi V7 and it does move side to side when I rev the engine because of the shaft drive.
And the moto guzzi is an opposed v-twin, hence the side to side effect when revving. Shaft drive most commonly affects power-on/off delivery in the raising and squatting off-on throttle.
@@stratolestele7611 when you're sitting on a motorbike in neutral without rolling the throttle its obvious for the motorbike NOT to do anything AT ALL. WATCH THE VIDEO CAREFULLY, he's sitting on the bike, he's starting the bike and when he's rolling off the throttle, the bike starts moving from side to side, but the bike starts moving to the right side first, BECAUSE THE SHAFT DRIVE IS LOCATED ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE BIKE. Not only you're uneducated, but you're blind too.
In this retro style category, the RE continental GT 650 wins my attention. Not really a power competitor but RE nailed the styling & it could be easily fully customized for less than the base price of the B’mer. Not to mention their 270 cross plane engine, just like the T7, emits the best sound on the road.
The 650 RE certainly does have a nice bark to it. Not the fastest, but quite possibly one of the smoothest engines and shifters I’ve ever experienced on a bike
I loved my 2015 RNineT. Only negative was an odd riding position. The Speed Twin is a little less ergo-compromised for style reasons. Have a T120 now and will probably try the z900rs next.
Adam, I test rode r9t scrambler, t120 and z900 on the weekend. All good rides. Z900 is a naked zx10 in my opinion and a very nimble and excitable ride but it's a sports bike in old clothes whereas the 1200cc bikes are very different feel especially with weight and handling differences due builds.
I totally agree. Honestly, I hate windscreen. Yeah, you get more fatigued without one but it’s so much more engaging and fun. I don’t want to be that comfortable on a motorcycle It makes me want to fall asleep when I’m on adventure bike with a big screen.
That's the alternator belt behind that front engine cover, Ian.... Clutch is a single dry plate and mounted on the backside of the engine. The swingarm and transmission need to be removed to access it. Transmission oil (80w-90 hypoid) should also be changed every 12k miles.
Really think you would enjoy a speed twin. I have to say, I’m intoxicated by the boxer engine and thrilled with the shaft drive, but I still love my speed twin!
I had a 2018 R9T Urban GS and it was a blast. Simple, fun bikes, plenty of torque, sounds good even with stock exhaust. To me the 3 biggest cons, were the valve check schedule (though easy to get to) but more importantly, brand new it was burning 1L of oil per 10000km. Dealer said anything under 4L per 10000km was considered "normal" oil consumption on these bikes! The suspensions were also pretty budget for a bike of this price and not really "scrambler" worthy, the forks were the same as on the R9T Racer...which is a bit ridiculous (not sure if it's still the case, it was in 2018).
Thks for your comment. It was valuable to me as I'm considering going back on a bike after a long lay-off. Being 78 yrs old, I'm picky about normal maintenance and regular riding problems. I think I'll stick w/Yamaha as that was my usual ride back 20 yrs ago.
I have an R Nine T 2017 Scrambler, and although I love it overall, there is always a but! So down to the gripes! 1. Gear changes are pure luck dependant on how cold the engine is , or if you have just been thrashing it and its hot! 2. Its way too heavy to manually move about on the ground. 3.When you park it, you have to be careful where you place it, road camber makes it lean dangerously low! and on steep slopes, its even more precarious to park. 4. Due to the Cambus system, if you want extra power, for spot lights or to charge a phone, you need to hard wire it with an inline fuse straight from the battery! or give it to dealer, and that's expensive! 5. Cleaning the beast is a really hard task, due to its many nooks and cranny's which are hard to access! 6. BMW servicing is expensive even for a simple oil change! However if you can live with these niggles, the beast rides and handles very well, and despite its mass, it likes to be tossed around on country lanes! But most importantly, it has soul and a powerful exhaust note. Last but not least it delivers on what owning a bike should be all about, and that is, its earthly desire for it's amazingly rugged looks! This is the only bike you will ever desire or need! Its not for the feint hearted, its for proper bikers, despite its minor niggles!
Great review. God I love my RnineT/5 (a 2019 50th Anniversary variant of the Pure) . These bikes really get under your skin. Get one and add what makes you happy. Add a tacho and change the rear shock prob most importantly. The engine is probably the best BMW bike engine ever made and can go >1 million km if looked after properly ie these are real keepers. Get a R12RT or GS if you want to tour long distance, but keep the R9 for anything else on-road.
I test rode an R Nine T back in 2015, the little thing was a rowdy, hoot to ride... It made me be bad on a test ride 😎 The seat was awful, it was digging into me inside of 20mins riding.
My friend has an rninet scrambler and overall the bike just feels so “tight”, injection is super smooth as is the transmission and driveshat, brakes are powerful yet progressive, loads of torque, great handling, great sound…the only downside is the horrendous suspensions (they are definately not scrambler worthy), and its not the roomiest of bikes if your 6’+.
I recommend removing the dB killers in the exhaust. Remove the Torx bolts & exhaust covers, and cut the welds with a dremel then put the covers back on. Much better sound, you cant see the cut welds, and it's free. (Prior to 2021 you didn't even need the dremel to cut the spot welds, the db killers would just pull out)
In 2019 i went with an xsr900. I wanted a BMW but nobody had it for me to test ride. Combined with a few other factors, I went with the XSR. It's not a bad motorcycle but I i wish I had waited for the R9T.
Please note that the clutch on this engine is in the traditional location behind the engine and is automotive style dry single plate onto a flywheel pressure plate design. Not an easy owner job to replace.
Why would anyone want to buy a bike like this? I can understand why some riders would not look at a bike without a quick shifter, cruise control, traction control, riding modes and all the other electronic trickery that you find on modern bikes, BUT there are some who still prefer the raw riding pleasure. I mean the satisfaction that comes from mastering your machine and experiencing the thrill of feeling at one with the machine at the limits of both the bike and yourself. Naturally you want to stay safe and we now have many enhancements to help, but do you want to ride the bike or do you want the bike to ride itself. I recently owned a 2021 top of the range "super naked" (I will not disclose the make or model) with all the electronic bells and whistles. I have to admit my latest bike, an R nine T is a much more FUN and satisfying bike to ride (I did miss the quick shifter for a while and the insane speed). My 2014 BMW R nine T may not have all the bells and whistles but it has what is important to me; Lots of grunt and a decent top speed, good around the twisty country roads, suits my height and weight, good build quality, reliable, engine that will retain its performance for years/km to come, looks and sounds great.
You are right for wanting something in this class. I have a GSA, but sure do love getting my Bonneville (made street tracker) out. It does feel like flying!
Thank you for this amazing review - high quality content - experience and sensible detailed analysis and commentary stands out - such a professional job thank you and well done .
@@dries19891989 cylinder guards are ugly and a new valve cover is not expensive. and if you crash so hard that you damage the head or cylinder then you have bigger prolems
Thanks so much for your thoughtful n descriptive evaluation of this bike . Always enjoy your so very descriptive assessment of bikes you evaluate. I do have 2016 R9t.
Potential R9T buyers... the bike is virtually unchanged since it's introduction in @2014, with the only exception being the nanny aids... You can easily find used clean and unmolested R9Ts for well under $10k... ask me how I know..
Looks like a boring blob of silver and black - and I REALLY wanted to like this bike. I went with the z900rs café, with zero regrets. Runner-up for me is a Speed Twin or Thruxton Edit - Great review BTW!
Fantastic video and in depth review! No gimmicks or nonsense, just great information. I'm currently trying to decide between a 2023 Moto Guzzi V7 850 Special or the 2023 R nineT Pure...in your opinion which would you think is the better purchase between the two? I'm familiar with the specs and features of both, but for long term ownership not sure which would be the better option. One thing that does make me think a bit is that I know the V7 may be slightly easier to maintain at home, but the dealership from the BMW (and parts availability) is much better with the Germans. Which would be your choice?
I wish they'd used this range to recreate the original G/S with a very practical bike rather than the Urban GS version. The closest we get otherwise is the V85TT! My other thought is it's weird that the "base" RNineT is the more premium model and the others are all a bit stripped back. Also not quite sure why you'd get the "base" bike over an R1250R but the Pure and Scrambler do have their appeal.
Great review you covered a great deal that’s useful for people who’d want to buy it like myself. I personally love the cafe image. Right now I ride a Honda CB650R and I wish one day to get an R Nine T with the gold Ohlins on the side. Keep it up!!
Great review!!! Will really appreciate it's you could review the Royal Enfield INT 650. Sort of in the same category of this bike but much cheaper... please
I test road the scrambler and as much as I wanted to love it I didn’t the suspension was a back ache like an old Sportster to be fair I rode two up but I would like to try again with the top model in this series the looks are nice
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Hey Ian what a surprise you reviewed a nineT. As a long time owner I can say you nailed it. For 1-2h rides it's great. Excelent reliability as I did rack quite a bit of km on it's first years as it was my commute, and not an issue at about 30K Km. Just some random comments to add to your review:
- Not a single storage compartment except for the toolkit that is locked and requires a tool to access.
- Installing any decent sidecases removes pillion seat/pegs usability
- About the pillion seat it is very unconfortable for anything over 15 minutes.
- Maintenence is not complicated, mostly time consuming. Oil access is great, but getting to the air filter requires lifting the tank and removing wiring harness.
- More about maintenance. You will need a good set of torx and allen bits and common tools. On the electronics side, a GS911 or equivalent and phone app will set you back 150€, but you can reset service and do a throttle body sync among other nice stuff.
- There is a slight buzz at about 5k rpm but normaly the riding range is at 2-4K because the engine feels so strong pulling from low you learn to use it there. Shame you didn't have a tach on your bike to see this.
- I feel that the round gauges are a downgrade from the nineT classic dash of the first years. That's a personal opinion.
- I would recomend doing the gearbox and driveshaft oil change more often than the manual specifies for the first years. During the first changes I noticed that there is a lot of metal on the magnet and the oil is very dark. Note: the first year of maintenance was done by the BMW dealer... not sure what they really did.
great info!
No doubt about it--needs luggage. The Thruxton anticipates and provides solution to the issue.
The tool to access the toolkit is locked in there. Pure German genius design.
Wow..👀😳 Thank you for the valuable practical info! 🥰🤩
The tool access is with a torx screw, for which a tool comes at the key ring of your ignition key. Just a comment from an owner, and a German at that😂
BMW was here in Panama City beach last week. They had unsupervised demo rides!!!!! I rode a R9T with low expectations (I have a Ducati, new Suzuki gsxs1000gt, Harley and touno). And instantly really really liked this bike. Your review was spot on. The lack of all the new must have features didn’t take away but added to the connection to the bike. It was faster than expected.
Yeah. I want one now
I loved your comments at the end around rider connection. I have an R NineT and had a R1250GS, I decided to go down to just one bike having had my first child. And to the disbelief of a lot of my riding friends, sold the GS and kept the R NineT. One reason was the much higher resale value of the GS (over what I paid for it), but I couldn’t imagine myself without the R NineT. Taking turns in the twisties was so engaging and exciting, vs the GS which felt like it was doing all the thinking for me… anywho.. great review! Enjoyed watching it, and as a 5-year R NineT owner, I feel you hit the nail on the head with pros and cons.
Have r1200gs I think I over paid but couldn't find any decent deals . Now looking for r nine t
Mad that you ride one at age 5. Props little dude 🙏
Just traded my AT in and bought a 2017 r9t pure 5000 miles on clock like new what a bike character beautiful engineering love it
I bought one of these back in May, and am loving it. I get the point about the budget suspension, but I don't regard it as such a big deal, even after owning bikes with top notch fully adjustable Showa or Ohlins forks and shocks. I was also sceptical about having a bike with no fuel gauge, but actually, it isn't a problem at all. I just reset the trip meter when I refuel, and start looking for fuel when I'm approaching 150 miles or so. Simple!
BMW had a demo day here in Scottsdale, AZ a month ago. I rode most of their lineup and ended up buying a 1250RS a week later. The last bike I test drove was the NineT. I couldn't believe how much I loved driving it. If you ask me, the look, size, noise, character from the boxer motor really made it enjoyable. I LOVED the shake from the start up. Its like I was in a miata with a V8. It was such a joy but I wanted something I could ride up north in AZ and have luggage as well as a passenger for a decent price, thats the only reason I went with the RS. I will buy one of these one day!
Ian, Your comments about getting back to basics and experiencing the true essence of motorcycling with a minimum of technological inputs/distractions really hit home. The shear joy, sensory and emotional, of having the wind in your face and carving through the canyons/curves - almost flying - is hightened on a solid and pure machine like the Nine T. Thanks for another world-class review.
A used R nineT may be the way to go. A buddy of mine purchased a low mileage 2014 (top of the line with upside down forks) last year for about $8k and I can testify it is a blast to ride.
Kent , you are absolutely correct.. The R9T is virtually unchanged since it's introduction in 2014.. pristine unmolested examples can be found for well under $10k...
@@BERZERKERSV4 His 2014 had been garaged and you would be hard pressed to tell the difference between it and a new one.
It’s not a bike for me, but Your review is - as always - very informative and a true pleasure to Watch and listen to. As a viewer, You never doubts, that You are getting good, Sound and objective information abort the bikes You are testing and/or driving. Thanks!
This is a race between a lot of brands as you mentioned. But I would say that if the biker wants this kind of feeling that the boxer engine gives you, is difficult to compare as i find it pretty much unique. Two big oposed big cilindres , like on this bike, only the BMW produces such type of engine. You’ve got the Yamaha and the Kawasaki , the first with the famous Cp3 and the other with the four cilindres very well known by the bikers community and the Triumph parallel twin engine that equipes some of the most iconic Bonneville models of the brand`s range. I had a Yamaha XSR 900 Abarth edition and the engine swiped me off my feet, I was really a fan of that engine, a Queen of the low and middle range revs that gives you immense power sensation and riding pleasure.
Besides all that, the boxer engine has also its own identity, the noise it makes working is distinctive also. And for me, this is the engine that pays the tribute to old style engineering of this craft. If that’s what the biker wants, in my opinion, only BMW can provide it.
Thanks for the video. Ride safe ✌️✌️
For some reason -- post-Covid hangover, supply-chain issues, who knows? -- video reviews from the major motorcycle sites have become few & far between. And yet, despite being a one-man show, you're producing major content at a weekly rate. Good job, Ian.
Ian thank you for putting really good content out there, I can only hope your channel grows to millions of subscribers. Keep your style as it is unique.
I appreciate that!
Having recently test rode all these competitors as well as the r9t, I went with the z900RS. Even with the throttle issues the inline 4 is so smooth and materially cheaper than the BMW. Great work on the review btw.
Did the same. For the price the kawi is very well equipped, although I wish it had a QS. It’s disappointing to hear that the suspension and other items are a let down on this bimmer for the price and that you have to pay even more to get the level we have on our RS’s. I feel like the Japanese bikes really nailed it even with the xsr900 as well.
For the price this should have better suspension.
I did exactly the same - got for myself Z900RS. The sound of Engine, the driving capabilities are great 👍
I owned a Z900RS up until a few months ago and loved that bike for so many reasons. Today I took a test on a R Nine T and I have to say that after hearing so many good things I was kind of underwhelmed. I can’t put my finger on exactly why (though the suspension was super stiff) but I just expected more. The Z put a smile on my face from the moment I saw it. I really wanted to try something different but after that I think I will be going for another Z900RS.
Exceptional overview! I bought the 2022 BMW R nineT Option 719 model in early August and I absolutely love riding it. You’re spot-on about the suspension, the upgraded version with the upside-down telescopic forks which is on my model, makes a vast difference in overall ride comfort. As always, many thanks for the comprehensive and well-informed presentation.
The scrambler looks amazing. I’m done riding bikes without windscreens though. Love that it has the old GS engine. Those engines are easy to maintain.
My first BMW motorcycle was a 1937 R17, a 750 ohm with many innovations that made it expensive and fairly rare in its day. I paid around $400 for it and it took me through college days without missing a beat.
Since, I have owned /5 and later models right up to the last year RS airhead. All good but my favorite was the 1972 R75/5 I kept until age obliged me to pass it to a new owner. It covered 175000 miles in my ownership.
I acquitted a new R80 in 2000 and sold it after 6 months. It was a good mototorcycle but bland. I have ridden a Nine T but was never tempted to buy one.
BMW continue to make great motorcycles: if I was not so aged and city bound, I would be sorely tempted to buy the model you are testing.
Brilliant old metal you had. I thought when reading, you were going to say the R17 took you through Poland, Ukraine and onto Stalingrad. 🤣
Just stumbled onto this film and your channel and really appreciated the review. I have had my R9T for two years now having come from the 1200GS and absolutely love it, like you say, feels like you are flying. You do need the adjustable suspension and I swapped the rear shock for Wilber’s and it’s so much smoother, improves the overall comfort and corner speed. Glad to have found this channel, loads of great content to get lost in
This video answered literally every question i had. Good work man.
thanks
thanks Ian you’re making me take a step back and be reacquainted with my daily commuter. Have to be honest that I’ve been flirting with the idea of selling it for something a bit more comfortable on longer trips, but I wholeheartedly agree that the pure mechanical nature of it is something i’ll probably miss. the bike grades you on your every move, and it looks so good in person. going to take the bike on more weekend trips for sure and me and my wallet thank you for reminding us of what a great bike we already have 😊
I'm 62 shortly.
Ridden and owned motorcycles my whole adult life.
Toured tens of 1000's of miles, commuted, ridden for fun.
I could never own a motorcycle with a fairing or windshield.
The whole point of riding a bike is wind in the face and onto the body.
Feeling, seeing, hearing, smelling everything around you, inc heat, cold, pain and joy.
Otherwise its just a 2 wheeled car.
Great bikes R9T's...
Best bikes BMW have made since the 80's imho.
The wind buffeting is severe above maybe 65 on my bike where I start to tuck in. Considering getting something with one since I’m commuting sometimes 2 hours a day. Crazy you did that many miles without one.
@@jeremyjohnson6438 stick to 64mph, problem solved...😎
Get rid of the cat and the flappy valve thingy and it sounds great . Decat headers , K&N air filter and a short piece of pipe to deflap and you should release a bit more bottom end and mid range crispness and improve the intake and exhaust sound .I ve done it to my twin cam GS [same engine ] .Actually the twin cam mk 3 GS 2010-2012 is a better and more comfortable bike and great for touring and canyon blasting .
I sold my 2014 R9T and bought a 2022 Triumph Rocket 3GT. Favorite bike I've owned.
I love BMW motorcycles but if I’m looking at these I simply must also look at the R1250R and realize that’s what I really wanted in a roadster. The R nineT is a cramped place to sit if you’re taller than average. It works harder at trying to LOOK cool than it does at giving you an amazing ride.
I've had a 2021 well optioned r nineT Pure for the last 13 months. I added Dart Piranha windscreen, factory tach, Unit Garage handlebars, crash bars, Wunderlich pillion rack, and Mustang solo seat. Spot-on review, only thing I'd add is, I believe the scrambler model also comes without a tachometer. Great job!
I looked extensively at the RnineT Racer before deciding for the Harley Davidson Sportster S. I still think this is a fantastic, simple and beautifull bike. Unfortunately BMWs prices and the fact that they charge for absolutely everything mas it not as compelling. Great review.
In Australia, price wise it's the other way around. Harley really screws us here, which is a shame because I would consider a Sportster S for sure.
Another superb review. I considered an R nine T, but got the Speed Twin. No regrets - better looks, sound, comfort, less expensive, maybe a tick slower, but not enough to justify the price difference. This BMW is a good bike, but for the optioned-out ones, a LC 1200 or 1250 R is about the same price, but a whole level better in every way. I don't buy the big historical connection/explanation for BMW releasing this model - it's a cheapened-down parts bin special using the hex-head engine that was getting phased out for the other boxer models. At that time, BMW saw the trend of customizing a base model, and used it's existing tooling to produce something for that market. As you say, it's still a good, fun bike, but there are better options out there.
Great review. 2021 R nineT Scrambler owner here and have been very happy with it. I use it for a year-round daily commuter and its been an absolute blast. Very reliable, great power and a blast to ride.
I love my R9T scrambler. I bought it to sort of be a little brother to my GS for trips when I just want to play around on a dirt trail or two my way home from work or during a ride. Couldn’t be happier.
I would love an Urban G/S. Too expensive in Thailand with the import duty. Between 1996 and 2010, I did 91,000 miles on an R1100GS. I love the low centre of gravity you get with this engine configuration and the low-end/mid-range torque. The valve clearance check is: first 6,000 miles, then every 12,000 miles. The RNineT range could do with a digital speedo and a rev counter that sweeps around the edge of the dial. They could do with main stands to help with checking the oil. My 1100 used a lot at first and didn't stop using some until 30,000 miles.
First-class review.
Agreed.
As a 22' R9T Scrambler owner - it's a great around town bike...anything over an hour or more...the seat is uncomfortable...I did add both 719 packages, extra Tach and knobby tires...so it was 18K+ so did get pricey...I do love mine as the get up and go is awesome it loves living in 4/5/6 gear....I guess since I have a GSA...I like the boxer on it - Great Review as always...spot on!!!
Ian, you continue to make an awesome variety of videos! Please keep it coming!
More to come!
I did an iron butt on my NineT... it can be done. Not saying it was comfortable! Also you could take the baffles out of the exhaust for more sound (I kept mine in). After 7 years of ownership my main gripes with the (2015) NineT are; the battery is hard to access (requires taking the tank off). And tube tires are not great if you get a puncture. The 2015 is very bare bones bike... no cruise, no temperature gauge, no ride modes. But it does have heated grips!
You could add a couple wires and a plug leading to the battery. It's been common on small airplanes forever. That way you can test and even jump it if you use the right wire.
@@paulgraham6353 Thanks Paul. You can jump the bike without access to the battery...there's a terminal you can put the positive lead on, and you ground the negative to a point on the engine (made for this purpose). But changing the battery does require pulling the tank off.
I took delivery of the 40th Anniversary Urban GS 3 weeks ago. It was brand new with a really good discount. I absolutely love the bike.
Chain drive vs shaft drive have had the same cost to run for about 20 years now. If you don't "oil" your chain they are not messy. Style wise, I think the r9t looks great and its big and heavy so who cares how the shaft drive affects its handing.
As a former NorCal resident and GSA owner, I dearly miss these mountain roads. I'm in South Florida now and it sucks for riding. Headed to Octoberfest motorcycle event in Daytona Beach this AM. Nice review!
Best retro! Drop the 719 package or get a used R9T. Incredible bike. I ended up getting the LC R120R but only because I tour and wanted cruise, semi-active suspension, ride modes
and the tech.
most unique modern luxury retro.... most powerful airhead.... highly customizable aswell... i love it d moment i got it... nice review!
Thanks for this great overview. Your bike is a beauty. I dont know why people complain about the suspension. Ohlins makes cartridges for the front fork and a rear mono shock. Not crazy price and then a cadillac adjustable ohlins suspension. I have a 2023 r9t scrambler and will do that myself.
I had a 2020 R9T/5 Lupine blue anniversary model for a couple years covering 8000 miles. Mostly weekend rides with one 2500 mile week long trip. Unfortunately the bike was stolen about a month and half ago.
I had a few options: tachometer, handlebar risers, wunderlich throttle lock, rear luggage rack. The bike is comfortable for weekend rides for sure but a little vibe for 75 mph+ plus I needed an airhawk for seat comfort for day long rides.
Even with basic suspension components if your under 180 pounds it works but I agree upgrades needed if your above 180 pounds. The handling really improved with Michelin Road6s, maybe 5 mph better on tighter turns.
I've run it at the drag strip a few times and with the traction control the bike can do 11.6 ETs and beat more than a few bikes and scare many more.
I would recommend a rear hugger and front fender extension. I loved the stock mufflers sound. I also have a Thruxton R during the same time, a little overlap but different approaches.
I found the nine t to be kinda of soul less . It's very predictable almost clinically. I had the cafe racer version and ended it up selling to buy a ducati and would never go back .
Nice review very detailed 👌
Thanks for sharing!
Spot on Ian… I’ve had my R9T since 2014 after seeing the bike at Daytona Bikeweek ( when the event was still relevant)… Upside is the pure beauty of a very basic back to my roots riding experience …. No electronic nanny aids or TFT screens… the aluminum gas tank, conventional forks and classic round headlight all add to the nostalgia……..sure the lack of a fuel gauge and the tubed tires are minor downsides…. But those 2 incidentals are easily offset by the reliability and ease of maintenance……As for a comparison to the other “retro” bikes in the segment.. no comparison at all… The Kawasaki/Yamaha/Honda “feel” Japanese and as for the Triumph?… completely prehistoric in appearance and build quality….
What does "feel" Japanese mean?
@@Mark-bd5ci cheap, lesser quality materials.....the same basic difference between the Toyota Corolla you drive and the Porsche 718GT4 I drive .
@@BERZERKERSV4 what you said has not objective quality what so ever. And you cant compare a Porsche to a corolla. Two totally different vehicles. That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard.
I love my R9T Scrambler. 🏍️💨
I really didn't understand which BMW model is that awesome black yellow bike... WOW, I love it! Thanks for the video Ian!
you are feelings are spot on . i happen to own one . and probably wont trade it for another bike....
Big Rock Moto: Great video. At the 12:23 mark you mentioned that this bike is moving side to side because of the boxer cylinders, but I believe that this side to side movement on this BMW when you rev the engine is because of the shaft drive (motorcycle which have chains don't do that). I happened to own a Moto Guzzi V7 and it does move side to side when I rev the engine because of the shaft drive.
Lol. Call me uneducated on this but how does sitting on the bike, in neutral, not moving, how shaft drive enters the equation?
And the moto guzzi is an opposed v-twin, hence the side to side effect when revving.
Shaft drive most commonly affects power-on/off delivery in the raising and squatting off-on throttle.
@@stratolestele7611 when you're sitting on a motorbike in neutral without rolling the throttle its obvious for the motorbike NOT to do anything AT ALL. WATCH THE VIDEO CAREFULLY, he's sitting on the bike, he's starting the bike and when he's rolling off the throttle, the bike starts moving from side to side, but the bike starts moving to the right side first, BECAUSE THE SHAFT DRIVE IS LOCATED ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE BIKE. Not only you're uneducated, but you're blind too.
I like the RnineT pure, for its basic raw apperience
In this retro style category, the RE continental GT 650 wins my attention. Not really a power competitor but RE nailed the styling & it could be easily fully customized for less than the base price of the B’mer. Not to mention their 270 cross plane engine, just like the T7, emits the best sound on the road.
The 650 RE certainly does have a nice bark to it. Not the fastest, but quite possibly one of the smoothest engines and shifters I’ve ever experienced on a bike
I loved my 2015 RNineT. Only negative was an odd riding position. The Speed Twin is a little less ergo-compromised for style reasons. Have a T120 now and will probably try the z900rs next.
Adam, I test rode r9t scrambler, t120 and z900 on the weekend. All good rides. Z900 is a naked zx10 in my opinion and a very nimble and excitable ride but it's a sports bike in old clothes whereas the 1200cc bikes are very different feel especially with weight and handling differences due builds.
I totally agree. Honestly, I hate windscreen. Yeah, you get more fatigued without one but it’s so much more engaging and fun. I don’t want to be that comfortable on a motorcycle It makes me want to fall asleep when I’m on adventure bike with a big screen.
That's the alternator belt behind that front engine cover, Ian.... Clutch is a single dry plate and mounted on the backside of the engine. The swingarm and transmission need to be removed to access it. Transmission oil (80w-90 hypoid) should also be changed every 12k miles.
Really think you would enjoy a speed twin. I have to say, I’m intoxicated by the boxer engine and thrilled with the shaft drive, but I still love my speed twin!
I had a 2018 R9T Urban GS and it was a blast. Simple, fun bikes, plenty of torque, sounds good even with stock exhaust. To me the 3 biggest cons, were the valve check schedule (though easy to get to) but more importantly, brand new it was burning 1L of oil per 10000km. Dealer said anything under 4L per 10000km was considered "normal" oil consumption on these bikes! The suspensions were also pretty budget for a bike of this price and not really "scrambler" worthy, the forks were the same as on the R9T Racer...which is a bit ridiculous (not sure if it's still the case, it was in 2018).
Thks for your comment. It was valuable to me as I'm considering going back on a bike after a long lay-off. Being 78 yrs old, I'm picky about normal maintenance and regular riding problems. I think I'll stick w/Yamaha as that was my usual ride back 20 yrs ago.
@@nomadpi1 you’re welcome, you can never go wrong with yamaha or any of the japanese bikes. Currently own a dr650.
1l per 10000km is not bad at all for a boxer, could be way worse
R1200/1250R. Not retro like the 9t, but a fantastic ride.
Just stumbled on this page but already one of my faves!
I have an R Nine T 2017 Scrambler, and although I love it overall, there is always a but! So down to the gripes! 1. Gear changes are pure luck dependant on how cold the engine is , or if you have just been thrashing it and its hot! 2. Its way too heavy to manually move about on the ground. 3.When you park it, you have to be careful where you place it, road camber makes it lean dangerously low! and on steep slopes, its even more precarious to park. 4. Due to the Cambus system, if you want extra power, for spot lights or to charge a phone, you need to hard wire it with an inline fuse straight from the battery! or give it to dealer, and that's expensive! 5. Cleaning the beast is a really hard task, due to its many nooks and cranny's which are hard to access! 6. BMW servicing is expensive even for a simple oil change! However if you can live with these niggles, the beast rides and handles very well, and despite its mass, it likes to be tossed around on country lanes! But most importantly, it has soul and a powerful exhaust note. Last but not least it delivers on what owning a bike should be all about, and that is, its earthly desire for it's amazingly rugged looks! This is the only bike you will ever desire or need! Its not for the feint hearted, its for proper bikers, despite its minor niggles!
Great review. God I love my RnineT/5 (a 2019 50th Anniversary variant of the Pure) . These bikes really get under your skin. Get one and add what makes you happy. Add a tacho and change the rear shock prob most importantly. The engine is probably the best BMW bike engine ever made and can go >1 million km if looked after properly ie these are real keepers. Get a R12RT or GS if you want to tour long distance, but keep the R9 for anything else on-road.
Excellent & thorough review thank you. One of the better reviews I’ve seen on the R9T.
I test rode an R Nine T back in 2015, the little thing was a rowdy, hoot to ride... It made me be bad on a test ride 😎 The seat was awful, it was digging into me inside of 20mins riding.
My friend has an rninet scrambler and overall the bike just feels so “tight”, injection is super smooth as is the transmission and driveshat, brakes are powerful yet progressive, loads of torque, great handling, great sound…the only downside is the horrendous suspensions (they are definately not scrambler worthy), and its not the roomiest of bikes if your 6’+.
I recommend removing the dB killers in the exhaust. Remove the Torx bolts & exhaust covers, and cut the welds with a dremel then put the covers back on. Much better sound, you cant see the cut welds, and it's free. (Prior to 2021 you didn't even need the dremel to cut the spot welds, the db killers would just pull out)
thank you to always putting the values not just in the imperial but also metric system. :)
In 2019 i went with an xsr900. I wanted a BMW but nobody had it for me to test ride. Combined with a few other factors, I went with the XSR. It's not a bad motorcycle but I i wish I had waited for the R9T.
great review. I have the scrambler and LOVE it. Wouldn't trade it for anything else.
Yes great thorough review. I have the scrambler love it more and with time- 4 years now.
The RnineT character bike. The seat is bad, but BMW offers a bench seat, which is really comfy.
This will be my first bike. I already know exhaust I'm getting for it. This summer I'll be ripping up the road in one of these things
Another great video, Ian and nice of you to send folks over to Rob's channel for more information.
👍
Can’t wait for your r12 nine t review
Please note that the clutch on this engine is in the traditional location behind the engine and is automotive style dry single plate onto a flywheel pressure plate design. Not an easy owner job to replace.
Why would anyone want to buy a bike like this? I can understand why some riders would not look at a bike without a quick shifter, cruise control, traction control, riding modes and all the other electronic trickery that you find on modern bikes, BUT there are some who still prefer the raw riding pleasure. I mean the satisfaction that comes from mastering your machine and experiencing the thrill of feeling at one with the machine at the limits of both the bike and yourself. Naturally you want to stay safe and we now have many enhancements to help, but do you want to ride the bike or do you want the bike to ride itself. I recently owned a 2021 top of the range "super naked" (I will not disclose the make or model) with all the electronic bells and whistles. I have to admit my latest bike, an R nine T is a much more FUN and satisfying bike to ride (I did miss the quick shifter for a while and the insane speed). My 2014 BMW R nine T may not have all the bells and whistles but it has what is important to me; Lots of grunt and a decent top speed, good around the twisty country roads, suits my height and weight, good build quality, reliable, engine that will retain its performance for years/km to come, looks and sounds great.
You are right for wanting something in this class. I have a GSA, but sure do love getting my Bonneville (made street tracker) out. It does feel like flying!
Thank you for this amazing review - high quality content - experience and sensible detailed analysis and commentary stands out - such a professional job thank you and well done .
Much appreciated!
The most expensive "crash slider" in any motorcycle. Great review as always!
That's why you standard get cilinder protection bars on this bike. Otherwise 1 slide is gonna cost you thousands.
@@dries19891989 cylinder guards are ugly and a new valve cover is not expensive. and if you crash so hard that you damage the head or cylinder then you have bigger prolems
R ninet is the best looking retro bike on the market and you can’t change my mind
Your reviews are the ones that I rely on most. Keep up the great work 👍
Thanks, will do!
Thanks so much for your thoughtful n descriptive evaluation of this bike . Always enjoy your so very descriptive assessment of bikes you evaluate. I do have 2016 R9t.
I just applied for finance to buy one ❤️
Potential R9T buyers... the bike is virtually unchanged since it's introduction in @2014, with the only exception being the nanny aids... You can easily find used clean and unmolested R9Ts for well under $10k... ask me how I know..
Looks like a boring blob of silver and black - and I REALLY wanted to like this bike. I went with the z900rs café, with zero regrets. Runner-up for me is a Speed Twin or Thruxton
Edit - Great review BTW!
Thanks Ian. Great job. I’ve been curious about this one. Happy trails.
Glad it was helpful!
So great not to hear another fanboy ‘review’! I appreciate your independent thoughts.
Fantastic video and in depth review! No gimmicks or nonsense, just great information. I'm currently trying to decide between a 2023 Moto Guzzi V7 850 Special or the 2023 R nineT Pure...in your opinion which would you think is the better purchase between the two? I'm familiar with the specs and features of both, but for long term ownership not sure which would be the better option. One thing that does make me think a bit is that I know the V7 may be slightly easier to maintain at home, but the dealership from the BMW (and parts availability) is much better with the Germans. Which would be your choice?
BMW
Your analysis and presentation continue to get better & better Ian. I really look forward to your reviews even if it is of a motorcycle I’d never buy.
thanks
Please please please do a review on the Triumph Scrambler 1200. I love this bike and want you're opinion. Keep the awesome work going.
Nice review! The rear tire of the Pure is 180/55 ZR 17, though. The Scrambler's got the 170/60 17.
Coming from Europe I really like the bmws!
It moves from side to side because it’s got so much torque. ♥️🤠🏍️💨
Another great review from Ian! Great Looking Cafe racer and fun to ride!
I wish they'd used this range to recreate the original G/S with a very practical bike rather than the Urban GS version. The closest we get otherwise is the V85TT! My other thought is it's weird that the "base" RNineT is the more premium model and the others are all a bit stripped back. Also not quite sure why you'd get the "base" bike over an R1250R but the Pure and Scrambler do have their appeal.
Someone has probably already commented, so I apologise in advance. But you can remove the baffles from the exhaust with six bolts at the exits.
I’m in love with my Triumph Bonneville T120 gold line this RNineT range just looks a little weird in my brain.
I think the same about my bonneville t100. It's the most comfortable bike from all the bikes I had in the past. And it's a real eye catcher.
Great review I've Studied this bike and it is my third Beamer and I should ride it more than I do
Great review you covered a great deal that’s useful for people who’d want to buy it like myself. I personally love the cafe image. Right now I ride a Honda CB650R and I wish one day to get an R Nine T with the gold Ohlins on the side. Keep it up!!
Great review!!! Will really appreciate it's you could review the Royal Enfield INT 650. Sort of in the same category of this bike but much cheaper... please
Now I'm excited for the test of the Yamaha XSR900 and how you like this bike.
I test road the scrambler and as much as I wanted to love it I didn’t the suspension was a back ache like an old Sportster to be fair I rode two up but I would like to try again with the top model in this series the looks are nice
I have a Scrambler... it needed a good rear shock and some fork work to make it a keeper for a fussy person.... which I am... and have done!
Ian, very good review as always. Do review the 2022 Honda CB1000R black edition. I feel it also can be one of the competitors in this class.
Great honest review Ian have you reviewed the R1200R model?