Why did the Roman Empire persecute Christians so much? Ep. 70
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- Опубліковано 14 лип 2024
- The Roman Empire heavily persecuted the new religious movement budding from Jerusalem known as Christianity. But, why? And who? And how? In this episode, Dave answers those questions and more.
Transcript of this episode and possibly additional notes on our website: bit.ly/2z70gcc
The Great Fire of Rome: to.pbs.org/38oGnJQ
Informational bit on early Christianity from History.com: bit.ly/2SFYpko
Diocletian biography: bit.ly/3bx1Nq9
Christianity and the Roman Empire (BBC): bbc.in/2Hj6vtP
The Tenth Persecution, Under Diocletian (BibleStudyTools): bit.ly/2HjxC84
More on the persecution under Diocletian: bit.ly/2SBafMy
The problem of jurisdictional authority in the early church: bit.ly/2vGNW0j
Papal supremacy developed over time? bit.ly/39Om1dm
More on the development of papal supremacy: bit.ly/3bTRxbG
Persecution in the Early Church: A Gallery of Persecuting Emperors: bit.ly/31QRIjn
If you prefer Latter-day Saint publications and early Christian history set more in terms of the Great Apostasy, you may enjoy the book, “Apostasy from the Divine Church,” by James L. Barker, or “The Inevitable Apostasy And The Promised Restoration,” by Tad R. Callister (2006).
Is this segment scripted? Yes! Here’s why: bit.ly/2Gf3pIS
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The easy answer is: Christians did not worship the Roman gods. The Romans considered them to be irreligious.
But weren't Romans tolerant of other religions other than theirs?
@@irsq2419 kinda, but not completely. They believed that they were successful thanks to them worshipping All the gods. Jesus said that there is only one God that they should worship. They thought that if they didn't worship their gods and would worship only one God, they would throw a hissy fit.
thank you so much for this vivid and detail video!! it helped learn more and put things together that i had questions on. Thank you!
This was really good. Hope you make more like it.
This is great. Doing my teaching online has been tough, this supplements my course so well! Thank you
I tnink you should go easy with the editing. Too many movie cuts makes it distracting.
I think they're just fine personally. Makes it better to understand some things and explanations. I can see why it might and could be distracting, but for some like me, the edits actually helped me personally understand the history a lot more 🤷♀️ everyone learns differently than some
super funny and a good video keep making them! you are good at it
Thank you so much for the interesting and basic explanation.
This was amazing. Thank you
You're so welcome!
Once again the editing is amazing.
Fantastic summary. Could I use this also in my video. I love your timeline. Of course, complete attribution will be made. I love watching your show -- high energy, great attention getters and maintainers! Love it! Elaine Snider -- The Whimsical Byzantine. Anything on Empress Helen (mother of Constantine?0
When I first saw Ryan at 0:00 I was like what? He's on Saints Unscripted? Then I realized you just played a clip of him lol
In Diocletian's defense, most of his actions against Christians were the result of his co-emperor, Galerius, stirring things up and dragging Diocletian into it. He likely would have been fine with leaving the Christians alone otherwise. The Christian writer Eusebius stated as much.
Thanks for that detail!
This was most likely to decorate Diocletian’s reign after he died. Constantine loved Diocletian like a father figure, probably the same amount of love as his father in the west, Constantius. Though some of the things you mention is correct. Galerius was an unpredictable, dickhead emperor who cared nothing but himself and solidifying his reign. This can be said with Constantine, though Constantine actually cared about his family, morals and the people. Back to the issue, Diocletian funded the most for the persecutions and Galerius may have dragged him into the persecutions, but the problem wasn’t just the Christians. His previous hatred for Manichaeism transferred over to Christianity since Christianity has similar beliefs to Manichaeism. Eusebius was also told to change many things about his writings, such as Constantine’s first son with his first wife/concubine, Crispus, removing him from the biography of Constantine.
😔The major persecutions against Christians of which there are clear accounts were those under Marcus Aurelius, a second with Decius and Valerian and a third, called the "great persecution", with Diocletian. They ended with the edict of Nicomedia of 311 issued by the emperor Galerius, confirmed by the edict of Milan of 313 promulgated by Constantine I.
The Christians could have avoided martyrdom by sacrificing to the Roman gods without renouncing their faith, while the pagans were not allowed this, they had to cancel their faith and convert. The pagans would not have bothered one more God, there were several of foreign divinities in Rome, in the barracks and in the circuses there were chapels where everyone prayed to his God, with a tolerance that made Rome a beacon of civilization. The greatest martyrdom was that reserved for the pagans and concerned the entire Roman empire, both in the West and in the East.
In Christian hagiographic sources we remember, between the second half of the first century. and the beginning of the IV, 10 main persecutions against Christians, which occurred under the emperors: Nero, Domitian, Trajan, Marcus Aurelius, Septimius Severus, Maximin Thrace, Decius, Valerian, Aurelian and Diocletian.
The first persecution, that of Nero, also witnessed by Tacitus, broke out in 64 when Christians were accused of having started the Great Fire of Rome which destroyed a large part of the city of Rome. According to tradition, the apostles Peter and Paul were killed in this persecution.
In the following two and a half centuries, Christianity always remained an illegal religion and Christians guilty of impiety when they refused sacrifices to the Roman gods. But the ten "great persecutions" listed above were alternated with periods of tranquility and tolerance. Estimates of Christian martyrs are unclear. Hagiographic sources generally do not provide reliable data, and in the 1st and 2nd centuries there was no imperial decree ordering an organized persecution of Christians for their faith. The killings and condemnations were limited episodes, linked to concrete sins that were attributed to them, and were also accompanied by favorable attitudes in some of the emperors.
The serious crisis of the third century of the empire was instead the cause of an attitude of greater hostility in general, also due to the greater weight assumed by the Christian communities, especially in the eastern regions of the empire. The persecutions ceased with the Milan edict of 313, in which Constantine I recognized freedom of worship for Christians, while allowing the profession of paganism.
Julian the Apostate, the last pagan emperor of Rome, did not forbid Christian worship, because he supported freedom of worship. Only he forbade Christians to teach Greek and Roman literature, which Christians opposed and condemned, often in a violent way, so much so that another element of the Christian conflict with the
In 380 the emperor Theodosius I issued the edict of Thessalonica with which he proclaimed Christianity the official religion of the Roman Empire, drastically prohibiting any other type of cult under penalty of death and confiscation of all family assets, thus starting the persecution of the pagans.
So many similarities with how the Arabs reacted when prophet Muhammad said to pray to One God, the God of Adam, Noah, Abraham, Isaac ,Ishmael, Moses and Jesus.
It is not possible to sacrifice to another god or gods without renouncing faith.
Exodus 34:14 (worship no other god for the Lord is a jealous God)
This goes against the great and first commandment which is to love the Lord God with all your heart and your soul and mind.
@@imarip9781 this also goes against Matthew 10:33 - But whoever denies Me before men, him I will also deny before My Father who is in heaven.
What’s the movie at 2:29? 😅 I'm trying to figure out what it is and can't find it 🙈 also great video! And don't worry about all the movie edits since they actually give a great modernized like explanation for the historical context
They saw what Christians would become and tried to avoid it.
Amazing video, guys! I know this is asking a lot, but could you do a series of videos like this covering *all* the history of Christianity up until the Restoration? That would be so *awesome!* 🤩
Jason-- Yep that's the plan. The next 3 episodes will be working towards that goal.
🤩💥
Listen, I adamantly disagree with most everything on this channel. But this is incredibly accurate. You guys really did your research with this one.
Thanks Joshua!
Question. Do Mormons believe in witchcraft, sorcery, and the occult?
@@Uploadedimages I'm a Protestant Master's student in Theology but nice thought. I don't believe the LDS church is the true church of Christ, I'm just acknowledging that they did their research for this particular video.
Anthony Nunez they believe in a false prophet and a book that blatantly contradicts the Holy Sciptures
@@Dino23968 I am not sure what you mean in this context. Certainly we accept that some people do believe in other supernatural forces then God. Is that what you meant?
You have to worship the real God in order to show such loyalty. Other newer religions cant say this
whos the real one?
@@ANANAS1K007 Allah SWT, the same one only God that Judaism, Christianity & Muslims believe in whom created Adam & Eve.
Too oversimplified.
1. Actually pagan gods did promise a better afterlife, as did they promise a good present life. Different interpretations existed. Just as some Christians branches such as Calvinism believe everything good that happens in your present life is the will of god and a sign that he has intention of sending you to heaven.
2. Persecutions were kinda on and off. Same for the Jews. The real tough persecutions that exists in the public imaginary, with the catacombs and all, is the one begun by Diocletian. As stated, he believed the decline of the empire was due to a decadence of Roman virtues. So he tried to revert as many things as possible back to how they used to be, including religion. Nero’s persecution was much more legal based, he was trying to appease the people, so picked a distrusted minority and punished their members. However no full scale persecutions had begun. Nero also did not get to rule for much, and was dethroned (and killed himself) when his behaviour got on the nerves of half of Roman generals. So that there persecutions kinda stopped to then re-start and re-end once in a while.
3. Romans were not upset with the lack of worshipping pagan gods. Not until Diocletian at least (he actually did a beef because of it). All religions were allowed to freely worship in Rome, including Jews. Roman’s disliked other aspects of the Christian religion. As mentioned, the secretive meetings beheind closed doors (which btw, because of Roman influence gradually disappeared, and it’s disappearance was probably a major factor in it’s growth in popularity. Now anybody can walk into a Christian church, even during mass, weather Christian or not). Since Romans had a lot of public spaces, even private houses were not totally restricted to outsiders, and people went in an out of politicians houses (as their living rooms -and gardens became public spaces), the fact that Christians and Jews barred off anybody from what was going on kinda put off the Romans. Furthermore, although there was freedom of worship, Romans did not allow religious conversion attempts. Christianity was the only religion, more so than Juadism, that actually went around telling everybody that they had to convert, and that everybody else is going to hell. Christianity also has a tendency to refuse everything non-Christian (see the enourmous destruction of pagan texts after Christianity rose to power).
4. For some reason Jesus is also part of the video. Romans had nothing to do with Jesus, and the Roman emperor at the time, Tiberius, probably did not even know him. Judea was a semi-indipendent region (it became a proper Roman Province after the Jewish rebellion of the 69), best characterized as a client state, where the ruler was officially supported by Roman forces, and where a Roman garrison resides, serving both to protect and act in name of the Roman preferred leader (hence not allowing any anti-Roman, a.k.a pro-Parthian king to take power) and at the sine time, being ready to intervene in case a rebellion against Romans occurred (This has always been very common in border regions between rival empires, since they were necessary buffers, and Romans and Parthian competed between eachother to get their preferred ruler into power. Modern state still do this, think fo Korea or Vietnam). So that was the extend of Roman involvement. In Rome, virtually nobody was aware of what was going on
Simple answer to this 👇
No pagans were killed by Christians to get converted
@@indianchristian7669 Pagans WERE killed by Christians, and persecuted. For centuries. Starting by emperor Constantine, who who was not Christian was killed or exiled.
@@ipercalisse579 prove it
4:36 and this is the moment when he stopped stating history and started quoting the catholic church
Take a shot of wine everytime a movie scene pops
I find it disgusting when people are glorifying roman empire
Do how books were chosen or left out of bible enoch power struggle power ect
Very informative. Thanks for sharing, Lord-Jesus-Christ dot
You should make more videos.👍
It's weird no one ever brings this up but according to historic rabbinic writings Nero was a Jewish convert himself, his wife Poppaea was also Jewish.
So was Hitler
Some say that it wasn't a complete cleansing going on, however, I ran across, in the early 1980s, and I cannot find the reference anymore, where the cleansing of all the know Christians was so thorough that a pillar was erected bragging about the accomplishment. The inscription said, in my words, that there were no longer any Christians to be found. (In light of the great Apostacy, this cinches it up very tightly.) If I remember right, it was shortly after that that Constantine had his famous cross-vision. It would be cool if you guys could find it. I found it in a set of encyclopedias of religion. I'm sure they are no longer in publication. It was a long time ago.
Can anyone tell me.. WhY woUld God allOw roMan capTure aNd deStroy Jerusalem? Can anyone? AnyoNe? I don't thiNk 🤔 sO....
0:02 one guy pointing guns at me, the other one cheering on the impending murder. Are you sure you're saints?
Which painting is that of Jesus and the Roman gods
Capitol hill is named after the Roman capitoline hill. The apotheosis of Washington depicts George Washington ascending into "heaven" surrounded by pagen God's. The Thomas Jefferson memorial is designed after the Roman pantheon. The Washington monument is 666 feet tall total.
Source?
@@Tanknuggets217 library of congress. Tom horn. Also watch "the belly of the beast" movie. If you want to learn what's really going on
"There you go again blaming everyone else, but yourself" really hits hard when you look at today's religious battle.
Funny then how Pliny the younger, whose mentor and adoptive father, Pliny the elder who was in Rome at the time of the so called christians persecution under Nero, seems to never have heard of christians
Some people also deny the Holocaust.
@@tonyc2569 Facepalm
Mate easy on the edits
I know it’s not proof to those screaming at the sky show me and then I’ll believe but wow how the gospel changed the world.
Yep as a Christian I have to admit the cause was hijacked by groups of political persuasion who were Christian by name or association only because it was join up or be left behind……but the simple truth of the gospel of Christ lived on through true vessels of joy, love, mercy, and peace. That’s been part of the fight since Paul saw it coming before his death…..true faith is practiced daily and a love for Christ that can’t be hidden. It’s not a political party, social club, or organization of peers. But a spirit on display in your home, organization, or work. A change of character that effects your choices wherever you are. Imagine, there were some instances where professing Christians burned professing Christians at the stake, committed murder by wiping out groups that didn’t necessarily agree with certain doctrines……and so on.
How did they justify that? I’m going to say “you will know them by their fruit”. Remember Paul stopped killing and persecuting people after his conversion. Yep I understand the pagans fear but not the wrong turns made by the leadership within a few centuries. Many will say did we not do these things in Your name comes to mind. Anyway I’m rambling. Thank you for your work on this.
I like all the movie cuts.
Can you explain where the priesthood went spread after Christ died? And explain how/where it was lost? Thank you!
ua-cam.com/video/DW7jqmx7Jg0/v-deo.html / and this one: ua-cam.com/video/xhDHTOMbKAs/v-deo.html
First, you must understand that in LDS ecclesiology, an Apostle and a Bishop are two different things, and that Bishops have less power than Apostles.
The Apostles were killed off or “died,” and couldn’t regroup to find replacements like they could in Acts 1. As such, their specific powers (such as receiving revelation to guide the entire church) went with them.
Surviving Bishops and others still had the ability and authority to officiate the Priesthood, but as for conferring the Priesthood onto others, I wouldn’t exactly know how that would work.
The overall point I’m trying to make is that the loss of certain facets of the priesthood wasn’t a sudden event, but it was detrimental.
Great question, Cameron. Check out the resources KevlarX2 provided, especially the first link (another episode of Faith and Beliefs) that can hopefully help in a timely manner.
@@davidjanbaz7728 That is one view, but it doesn't answer the question. Either authority matters or it doesn't, if it does who has it.
@@davidjanbaz7728 You are still ignoring the question, does your pastor have a certificate signed by Jesus Christ authorizing him to preach? Because if that isn't needed, then anybody can preach their personal beliefs and it is all good, something you seem to reject.
40 years of peace sounds familiar
I liked the part with Brendan Fraser 1:45
Reformed Theology:
The video hooked me at this point! 👊🤣✝️
1:36
wish we could go back in time
This video was edited almost as much as the Bible itself.
this was too brief which is typical bc there is so little evidence of this persecution during this time. there are just a few pieces of evidence that have been extrapolated into full movie and tv shows. I think a lot is left out intentionally to be honest. why not cite josephus had to say about this or other roman sources? that would at least portray a balanced discussion. at least include some quotes from biblical scholar and modern historians.
I really appreciate your content but the constant movie inserts for comic relief distracted from the message imo
Nothing has changed since
उत्तम ज्ञानवर्धक... AD ० ( शून्य ) से पूर्व १० शताब्दी से AD ० (शून्य) काल तथा एड ० (शून्य ) काल से प्रारंभ कर ६०० ईस्वी काल तक का वर्णन हिंदी भाषा में वीडियो बनाएं।
Jews also believed in only one God and all else was false? Right?
JESUS IS LORD !
King of kings !
Amen
Amen, He is the way, the truth, and the life!
No one comes to the father but through Him (Jesus)
Wow you're insane
I would have joined based on salvation alone.
Hinduism is super because we are not forced anyone and worship nature as gods what we get from nature animals,land, rivers and sun light it’s not stupidity
Precisely!! Hold on Hinduism, it's a beautiful religion. I don't like to have been born Christian. The indoctrination starting from early life was horrendous.
Hinduism is just pagans
@@ipercalisse579 You're calling Christianity an indoctrinated religion when Hinduism still holds onto and enforces the caste system, and still to this day persecutes converts in southern India?
No Christian, was persecuted. It was the Sect Of the Nazarenes, who were persecuted. Most of them, went to Heaven, in the first century.. including, Israelites, from the Northern Kingdom. The Bible is not Christian. It belongs to the Israelites.
Do you have any resources that could corroborate any of this? Preferably in books, not webpages?
GOOD thank you for your research and CHRISTIANITY WILL ALWAYS STAY BROTHER AMEN
Yes it will always stay because the kingdom of Jesus which father gave him will always be there.
😂😂😂😂😂
Your Christianity will just fall like Rome
@@MedicusVishalus no every other religion in the world will be gone when Christ Jesus returns on earth...in the 1000 years of Jesus Christ on earth every other religion will be gone...only the faith in Christ will be there...every pagan idol will be destroyed and ever false gods will suffer punishment of hell and only the knowledge of true God Yahweh will fill the earth like waters fill the ocean... Hinduism Buddhism islam atheism Shinto Confucianism Jainism Sikhism will all be gone....only Christ will rule over the whole earth as king and his people will reign with him.
@@MedicusVishalus every idol and high places in India will be torn into pieces and all the false gods of India will be gone in that age...and only the knowledge and worship of true God of the Bible Yahweh will be there in the 1000 year reign of Jesus Christ
Hey y'all
Joined for the content, left halfway through thanks to endless memes. Don't get a comedy sketch, just wanted to learn something.
This just made you sound like an entitled smug add with issues
are all those movie clips really necessary?
கி.பி 1 to 33
ISLAM of Jesus
கி.பி 33
Catholic & Orthodox
கி.பி 325
Catholic of Christianity
கி.பி 610 to 632
ISLAM of Muhammad
கி.பி 632
Sunni & Shai
கி.பி 661
Sunni of Arabianity
கி.பி 1512
Protestant of Christianity
கி.பி 1938
Wahabi of Arabianity
Jesus and Muhammad
(peace be upon them)
But they were black not white they had Peter's Bones why do you think that is the black Peter why do they have the bones
Wish we could turn back time, to the good old days
I'm so tired of Christ being white
Christ was in color of Jews in that time.A little brown not white
So sick of blacks thinking he was black, he was tan
Rome feared Christianity would end their empire. In the end Christianity did end their empire. Amen. KC Comanche tx
It did not as much as many think but invaders and inclusiveness such as Christianity supported is what ended its regime
this is already happening in our modern time
300 AD???
3:17 based Nero
this is not a joke
Jesus Christ is God in the flesh
😂😂😂
Nah
Yes he is...God of all mankind manifest in Jesus Christ
@@MedicusVishalus Cry more
@@gigixxii2228 Yes*
You know when you draw pictures of jesus and angels and so you run the risk of people actually believing that they are correct
This is something that God in his laws is very clear about,
Why don't the children of Israel have anything like this or even the Muslims,
It's forbidden in Islam to make statues. Also it is forbidden to paint living creatures.
In Islam God has no image.
nothing in this universe can be taken as an example to describe God.
He is unique and different from his creations.
It was the pagan romans who tortured and brainwashed the true christians who followed Jesus and worshiped God.
pagan roman rulers mixed their paganism with the word of God and corrupted it. they forced christians to believe that God has children.
@@liquidphilosopher1816 it is forever forbidden to mankind
@@liquidphilosopher1816 Do you think God who made the first Man Adam without a woman can't have a Son? And his son was his Word. Who came in human flesh as Jesus, to come to die as a sacrifice for so the whole world could have access back to God.
@@allo5170
you are accusing God!
you are accusing that God punished an innocent guy for the sins of criminals!
you are also accusing that God the lord of the universe had a human offspring!!
repent while you can.
and ask forgiveness from God.
@@liquidphilosopher1816 For God love the world that he gave us his only begotten son that whosoever believes in him would not perish but have everlasting life. God showed us same example by asking Abraham to sacrifice his son as a test of faith in God. Check up all prophecy in the bible old testament before Jesus came... All pointing to Jesus coming. Moses a Great prophet also declared his coming. God created First Man Adam to have fellowship with him and Jesus came to restore that fellowship.... Seek God freely with all your heart to know the truth without been biased and he will reveal himself to you.
Is this seventh day Adventist?
Aly weird CHILD The host is a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (otherwise known as the Mormon Church), if that's what you were asking :)
@@SaintsUnscripted oh ok
The Christians could have avoided martyrdom by sacrificing to the Roman gods without renouncing their faith, while the pagans were not allowed this, they had to cancel their faith and convert. The pagans would not have bothered one more God, there were several of foreign divinities in Rome, in the barracks and in the circuses there were chapels where everyone prayed to his God, with a tolerance that made Rome a beacon of civilization. The greatest martyrdom was that reserved for the pagans and concerned the entire Roman empire, both in the West and in the East.
@@samsam-ko3fp Not actually. Sacrificing to gods was a political act not an act of faith. Roman's just wanted the country to stay in peace and septs, Christian one among them, not to become too violent and intolerant. It's like, trying to maintain order in a mental asylum, so to say. Christians were reported to act crazy, both by the Roman's and their own testimonies. Offering to the gods meant that you accept to be a part of the whole, not to renounce to your god, or gods, by accepting that there are also other gods, and culture, and THIS Christians didn't, because they were inspired by the martyrdom and so engaged in that and the promise of the afterlife that they insisted to be executed. To make it simple, it is not very different from una-bomber of sharia or kamikazes.... just they were Christians.
The Romans did not systematically persecute Christians. There were pockets of isolated persecution but nothing like what Christians systematically did to non believers in medieval times. The Romans were more tolerant of other religions than medieval Christians ever were.
And bcoz they don't want to worship on sunday,
Nero was Jewish, The idumeans were jews no thanks to john hyrcanus and the idumeans hated the White Christian Israelites of Jacob .
Israelites are far from white
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Well I should have expected this content by a Christian channel. Your informations are based on assumptions and not on historical facts. Also you seem not knowing much of the Roman world and culture to talk about it. The all thing with Christians persecution on a large scale was made up by Christians way after those time. But let's make things clearer: 1. Roman culture was polytheistic, not "pagan", pagan is a disrespectful word used by Christians for the worshippers of many deities after they became the state religion (after Constantine).
2. Roman religion had an impact on their culture, it was important in a cultural way, but it was not AND IT NEVER WAS a fundamentalist faith. I won't explain how Romans religion was observed in their daily basis, but it was basically paying homage and respect to one god, or another, or the ancestors spirits, said Mani, in other to get healthier or luckier, to get help, to promote peace or win a battle. Romans were refined and cultivated people, philosophy, science, medicine and arts were as much part of their culture as religion was, if not more. Their knowledge, research of a variety of topics as long as openness and promoting of culture was well documented, and in the words of Romans themselves you can see that they weren't that much obsessed by religion, as you'd like them to be. When Romans established in one foreign country after a campaign, they allowed people to maintain their religion, whatever it was. The whole thing about offering to their gods was a political act of submission more than a faith one. There was a pantheon and it was open for submission, so to say. They didn't want you to abandon the Crossed-one-guy for Proserpina, or Mercury, they didn't force you to call Crossed-one-guy another name, nor making you swear that you believe in other deities, or that they were better than the one you choose. They just wanted you to pay RESPECT to another culture, which was the government one, so in a position of political privilege, making an offer to their religion. This was an important act of recognition and respect of not just the Romans but other cultures too. Getting along peacefully together and not engage in intolerant behavior on a matter of religion and faith was the Roman basis, their interests were way beyond faith, they were just political!
In Judea Romans didn't understand why Christians didn't want to do these offerings. Chronicles reports about Roman governors who tried not to execute Christians being understanding, even allowing them not to pay the offer, but just using a formula. They didn't understand while in this pantheon Jew's god YWEH was present and Jews were ok. Why the crossed-one-guy, who was his claimed son on earth, couldn't be there too? To Romans this was inconceivable. They tried to reason with Christians but they were not reasoning. Because in fact there wasn't much reason among those people. They were inspired by martyrdom. THEY WERE THE ONE who didn't want to respect other cultures and traditions. They were fundamentalists and not so much later did vandalise, prevaricate, tortured and forced men and women to bow to THEIR GOD and abandon their religion, both physically and mentally. And this is a fact.
3. The way you ridiculed the "pagan" culture making those funny sketches at the beguinning is a direct proof of what I'm talking about.
It is a fact that one of the 10 commandments is to not bear false witness against thy neighbor and it is also certain that the lake which burneth in fire and brimstone has also been promised to all liars. And I gotta say I admire the audacity and boldness of the creator of this video because he's a fat liar and I cannot believe people listen to this... this video is soooooo inaccurate both historically and in the religious aspect and not to mention that the author of this video clearly has never understood the roman empire and its belief system. SHAME!
Chrisrians and their persecution complex 🤮
3:20 sounds like classic false flag. But makes no sense since we preach Love to blame us
Nice story.... with lots of unsubstantiated claims....
❤❤❤❤❤❤❤Amen
No
It's good
i would like to say something on this from what i understand about history, economics and religion. let me know if you think it is valid.
what caused the fall of rome was artificially low interest rates to facilitate credit expansion/ currency devaluation and this was bought about by christian orthodoxy where they believe interest rates are "evil". the way interest rates work is if you cannot produce the return from your investments that is able to support society, you get paid interest for depositing this money in the bank (say 5-10%) and this means instead of buying unproductive assets that produce say, a 1% rate of return due to lacking the ability to use them properly the real land and assets are kept in productive hands. if interest rates are 0% and i can make 1% return by buying land and using it badly then i will buy it, if there are people who can make 15% profit though it is better for everybody to pay me 10% for keeping my money in the bank to disincentives me to buy that land.
as interest rates fall and currency devaluation happens, the welfare state attracts parasites, just as the west is doing today and assets come to be less and less productive over time, falling short of the needs of the citizens. the low interest rates lead to trade deficits, exporting inflation and capital flight- where companies reinvest into countries with higher interest rates because this allows them to expand, due to the prices of the asset and the prices of what the asset produces coming closer and closer together, the higher the interest rates are and further and further apart the lower they go, causing stagnation. if the west today was not running trade deficits, quality of life would fall to be lower than it was 100's of years ago and the quality of life we do have via deficits is living on borrowed time, while preventing the forces that would reverse this trend.
the larger a population becomes, the higher the interest rates should go in order to facilitate the increased productivity needed over time.
I'm not sure Ancient Rome had a robust financial system as today, however, if they did then they would have a wonderful understanding of inflation. They didn't.
Monetary economics doesn't work out either because you know they had bullion. The Romans had trade but they had no need to practice mercantilism. They just needed Egyptian grain to feed their people.
Also comparing an ancient state to a modern economy is laughable. Rome does not have the rights and protections a modern republic has today.
Read the books of Bart Ehrman if you want to understand early Christianity.
Which one would you recommend first?
Read Bible if you want to understand christianty and its early history'
So let me get this you Christians believe that for hundreds of years the Jews were persecuted by Romans
Then God himself comes down as his son and let's these same people murder him?,
And then hundreds of years after jesus they still persecuted them while worshipping idols then all of sudden God decided to give these enemies of God the authority to decide what and how God's holy book will be in the council of Niceia, and what language it will be in??
@@oreopeyton3461 listen when Jews were being slaughtered by Christian faith in Spain and again by Christian faith in Nazism Germany it gave every single right for rudeness
The fact that you actually
Have the nerve to say that we know better what the Torah means because the Romans taught is insulting alone
Idol worshipers and pagans now claim they are the only ones who understand God and all monthiests are wrong is laughter at its saddest
Go find one prophet from the old testament who taught mankind the trynity then reply
Otherwise keep your symbols the cross and your stsues of Mary and Jesus's and worship them
@@jakelister6386 WE DON'T GIVE A FOK ABOUT THE PROPHETS OF THE TORAH. WE FOLLOW GOD HIMSELF = JESUS CHRIST
@@jakelister6386 CRY MORE ABOUT THEM SATANISTS
@@jakelister6386 You know nothing what those evil people did and do
Well certainly not all Christians. LDS do not believe the council of Nicaea had any authority.
Bingo
If you guys depicted the correct images.. it would make so much more sense.
The almighty ! The Christ !
Way to many cutaways to be silly, makes you lose track of anything educational about this video. Takes away from the entire subject... meh.
I mean, it's not a documentary. It's a retelling cast in a humorous light
Your rendition of people attacking and persecuting Christians for not worshipping their gods therefore they were thought to be the cause of misfortune is exactly what’s happening on social media in the present day. This hive mind and group think and if you don’t think the same then you’re the reason for the issue and you must be shamed. Nothing ever changes lol
History repeats itself
Worship shiv and bisnu the real god europeans dont know what is god follow India only then u wiill receive salvation otherwise helll mind it jesus was a froud anyone clai himself as son of god must be a froud
And that's why I'm still wondering, why would ppl still believes that the Bible is the authentic Gospel knowing that Diocletian had destroyed every single piece of the Gospel? That's why God decreed the Qur'an to prophet Muhammad PBUH and made him the seal of all messengers. Jesus Christ PBUH didn't even die on the cross, he was saved by heavenly Father, known as Allah Azzawajalla and yes, Jesus is still alive, literally alive until judgment day & comes back to earth, save mankind for one last time & to kill the Dajjal (anti-Christ).
Don't buy my words, read both the Bible & the Quran yourselves to find the actual truth.
Wait a minute. You'd say Romans persecuted Christians because they doesn't worship Romans' religion. But even Romans so called takes every gods of other religions they know and added them to their new religion. It's makes me confused. The other thing, so why Jews were not got persecuted by Romans like Christians? Jews is not pagan. They also believe one god and messiah.
Sorry bout my language. English is not my cup a tea.
Jews were persecuted as much or more than Christians. The Romans would accept new gods, as long as their own took primacy. Since Jews and Christians would not accept any other gods, let alone primacy, they were a danger to the state.
the foxes book of martyrs is so sad
Man
Salvation by faith in Christ Jesus death and resurrection Alone!
Catholicism is not Christianity but pagan idol worship.
Jesus loves s so much He left heaven for the salvation and forgiveness of sin for those who believe on Hum. For God so loved the world He sent His only begotten son so that whosoever believes on HIM SHALL NOT PARISH BUT HAVE EVERLASTING LIFE.
Emperor Claudius persecuted Christian’s too hypocrite literally all the emperors of Rome killed all the Christian’s because of there refusal to worship and bow down to them and pay homage too and there’s a reason why the Christian’s did that for a reason one Esther 3
Roman marriage exclusive monogamists v’s Jewish /Christian polygamy
Roman gods v’s the Bible
I’d say it was bizarre that so much activity over a man who never lived, and yet this is the case with most religions where the leader or central figure simply never existed. Thank god the bible is listed under FICTION.
@@Hotboi1 there is no record of this. Romans were meticulous record keepers, and there’s ZERO record. He never existed.
@@Hotboi1 fair enough but there’s no evidence of it and you just saying so doesn’t mean poop to me.
Yet the romans made the purge!
The overuse “cute” insertions of clips from other movies and media are an annoying distraction to an otherwise professional and informative video production.
Fascism
What’s up with your eyes..? You look very different this episode.
Probs the new glasses. Or the crushing weight of never knowing if Lightning McQueen needed car insurance or life insurance.
I noticed this too. I think their editor did things a little differently with color and exposure this episode.