It’s wrong Realism and bible doesn’t work walk hand in hand sha So you cant be logical with the Bible, it’s just one exposure and it’s done by the holy spirit, anything outside that is sin Logically it may not be a sin, but if the Bible says it’s a sin, it is Don’t help God to reason.
The woman in white need to learn communication...she talks a lot but does'nt listen. She also thinks she knows more than what she really knows...too much generalisation she has...I really hope I am not like her.
what is it ?? you are a christian by believing that JESUS died for your sins and though his sacrifice you have peace with GOD romans5:1 dont be a hypocrite
So basically they are saying that if you taste and you don't like, you just keep sleeping around with everyone until you get what you like?? That's such a ridiculous way to look at relationships. The truth is, you will always have to teach and instruct regardless. And the sex will change over time regardless so there's no reason for us to excuse a lack of self control. There is no need to have sex before marriage, and those who make this excuse of "testing" end up sleeping around, cheating, and or unsatisfied and that's the truth.
Can that mother among them look her daughter in the face and tell her to taste all the waters till she gets the right man?? Whatever we give, we must be able to take.
The world definition of sex and love. We living in a time where most people have put God's word aside and take their experience above God's word. Crazy!!
If you’re a Christian, it’s not debatable, it IS a sin because God said it is (and explained why) end of. Before I was married, I was fornicating but I would never condone it and try to say it was okay, I knew it was wrong.
Please share the Bible verse where God himself said it was a sin. Jesus never even said anything about it. Best you can find is Paul talking about it, and Paul himself even said it’s best people stay celibate and never get married. 1 Corinthians 7 v 8 In 1 Corinthians 7 v 1 Paul says it’s better for a man to not even touch a woman period if he can help it. Does any Christian really believe that this is what God wants for us? If God really didn’t want you to do it then he would have said so himself. But these days people don’t actually read what the Bible says, they just read their own interpretation into it
@@wizolufa14521 Corinthians 6:13&18-20, Colossians 3:5,revelation 21:8, Galatians 5:19-21, Ephesians 5:3, Jude 1:7, 1 Corinthians 6:9-11, 1 Thessalonians 4:3-4. The bible talks about sexual immorality and fornication a lot and continues to talk about how those that fornicate and commit sexual immorality will not inherit the kingdom of God. You cannot change the word of God.
@@wizolufa1452sexual immorality is fornication, masturbation anything sexual before marriage. As Christians it is a must to stay holy. Sexual immorality is a sin that you don’t fall into but walk into. It is a sin against our own body. It is compared to prositution in the Bible because when you’re born again you become one with the father. You cannot go and then share your body with another. Sex is not bad. But it is only good IN marriage because that what God created it for
If you have a clue of how sex before marriage is destroying marriages, you won’t dare sex before marriage. With all these sex before marriage in our days , you can see how marriages are being messed up because couples find it difficult to bond due to many body counts.
@oganla1 No sir, foolishness is to think that 4yrs in uni means you know, sir you know nothing at that stage. Foolishness is thinking that you know more than your creator, that arrogance is at the base of ignorance.
Haha, this is pure ignorance, pastors in Nigeria do corner betting everyday, make una dey deceive unaselves there, bible was a book written by people like you and i.
@@Trichmedianow you are talking nonsense, The bible is an inspiration of the holy spirit writing by men, when the bible told us not to gamble and a pastor is gambling, the pastor isn't meeting God's standard
@@achonyeginika2195 The problem with you religious zealots, you speak with emotions rather than logics. What I meant by "corner betting" wasn't related to gambling at all, if you were not so slow, you should have known that I was speaking in slang. Well, I am not going to explain further. With that being said, were you there when the Bible was written? if it wasn't introduced by the colonial masters, do you think you would have known about it? There's nothing holy or inspirational about the Bible or the so called people that wrote it. Everything about the Bible is dictatorial, dogmatic, threats, punishment, demolish and deaths. What has the Bible done positively for the Africans since it was introduced to them?. It's a pity that you guys are so dumb and dumber to consciously see that the Bible has taken you all to the abyss in Africa.
If you want to be a Christian, you MUST follow the teachings of the Bible. You don't choose which instructions to follow.. You loose your will and take God's will.. Those who claimed to be Christians on the show are just living for their pleasure not the lord's pleasure.
Very disappointing... The woman who claims to be born-again didn't even disappoint me, cos I don't think she's born-again. She doesn't even believe the bible
An Adultrous and sexual generation indeed.. If all you live for is sex, you're not different from animals. We have a higher purpose in Life than sexual urges.
An adulterous generation indeed! I wonder which Bible those claiming to be born again read. Sex before marriage is a sin whether we like it or not. For your own information, The Almighty God is the one who officiated the marriage between Adam and Eve. He is the one who told them to multiply and subdue the earth. Those supporting sex before marriage are not spiritual. Do you think you're more knowledgeable and intelligent than God our Creator? Don't worry. The reward for your sinful life is waiting for you
There's a higher purpose in life, correct. Sex is a higher purpose in marriage, approved by God, in marriage. If a woman/man has a sexual urge it's not a sin so long as it fulfills the purpose of God in marriage.
Rightttt😂😂 From this depiction, we can see that so she actually tested many times before finding her husband, not to be that person but then from her utterances that’s what I deduced 😭😂and that can have a negative impact in the future one day tbh 🤦🏽♀️
She's probably married to a goat and I dont mean it as an insult to a man. She legit had no wedding. Just tied the goat inside her house and calls herself its wife
Honestly, she is not wise at all. I honestly feel sorry for her children and the type of knowledge she is impacting in them. SHE IS NOT A CHRISTIAN, NOT A BORN AGAIN. HER FAITH IS QUESTIONABLE.
Exactly my thought too, i was beyond shock to hear her say boldly that she is a born again. Irs even how she is atguing with her full chest. And telling the false story of the bible.@@jessicakizito7001
I appreciate the man of God who made it clear from the onset that he’s a student of the Bible. I hope more students of the Bible can be more vocal about their biblical position.
what about the Biblical position of the "man after God's own heart" King David, whom had hundreds of wives and concubines?....Biblical only means that a thing/concept can be found in the bible. It does not mean that the thing/concept is true or universally "right".
@@blakeblackmon2015King David or Solomon? Y’all just speak anyhow on things you have no clue about. Try and be using your God given thinking capabilities. Also, educate yourself, Solomon had lots of wives and concubines and it was said that doing this drove him further and further away from God, that tells us that even by Mosaic standards (which most of them were abolished when Jesus died for us and cleansed us of our sins) what Solomon was doing was not pleasing in God’s eye. David himself had more than one wife, yes, however in the days of Moses, before Christ came, this was somewhat normal. Solomon’s case was extreme, but David’s wasn’t uncommon then. And even so, there were times God was displeased with him for it. As I said, all this was before Christ came and paved a new path for us to live our lives in a Godly way.
@@chisomo8088 it's how you judge someone with so much ignorance and pride. Life doesn't end in those close-minded views of yours. Christianity as a religion is also not one-sided like 1 + 1 = 2, if it was, there won't be different denominations with opposing doctrines.
He’s not a student of the bible he’s a king James student doubt he read the Dead Sea scrolls and many other ancient biblical text taken out of the modern day bible.
@@chisomo8088god wasn’t displeased with him when god approved him being on the throne and said David was a man after his own heart mind you David was a murder and a fornicator.
This is the wrong question. Whatever you choose, accept the consequences as much as you accept the advantages, that's the only way to live a life without regrets.
Sex before marriage i did that shit now I know better and am teaching my girls the value of purity before marriage. You can never get it wrong with God when you wait.
To me sex before marriage is 100% very wrong . Its just the society makes it to people believe that its good. To me am 100% against sex before marriage
I know some people who never had a sex before married. They really respect their body because, they never know what will happen if they had a free sex, for example you can get aids, or even worst for a women is they do it with guy who doens't have any responsibility if they get pregnant, the guy who only want to having fun with girls , not to marry her.
God is the creator of marriage and sex. Sex outside marriage is a SIN. Marriage is God's product, to succeed in it, you MUST do it in God's way. PERIOD
I know some people who never had a sex before married. They really respect their body because, they never know what will happen if they had a free sex, for example you can get aids, or even worst for a women is they do it with guy who doens't have any responsibility if they get pregnant, the guy who only want to having fun with girls , not to marry her.
I cry for our generation. Numerous times in the Bible. Both Old and New Testament it written that fornication is a sin before God. Why trying to be wise than God ??
They don’t mention how sec before marriage can open you up to sexual addiction, bondage and demonic access. It’s God’s order and Holiness that matters not our pleasure.
I enjoy this conversation. It reveals the mindset of the generation we live in. So many points giving to support sex before marriage. Most of what what I hear here are people trying to reason things out while leaving the Bible out of the discuss. The married woman who said she has three Bibles and is a Christian. Having 3 Bibles doesn't mean you know the Bible. Sex before marriage is a sin. Let's not Sugar coat this issue.
@@uchegbudivine6885but it is though, it the context of Nigeria (a deeply religious society) it really is. Also, most of the discussion prompts touched on religion
I am Rwandese and I’ve been thinking to host this kind of talks …I am impressed that my Nigerian fellow young people are doing this I must subscribe and be a part
Sex before marriage is a sin that's what God says. The married woman really disappointed me with her takes. Can she advice her kids to do what she did? With the risk of Sexually transmitted disease, unwanted pregnancies, getting attached to someone that u might not be married to, to sleep around until u find d right one? Plus, when it comes to marriage when u get old its character, not anything sexual
That's your own opinion, things doesn't and can never work the same way for everyone. The married woman doesn't need your validation or permission to make such decision.
STDs and unwanted pregnancies are also things that can happen within marriages. Sex ed and sexual safety is what can protect people from these risks, not marriage. Having sex with a person does not attach you to them, and you don't need to have sex with a person to become attached. You're also insinuating that old people have no sex life? When in fact, they do and should. Sex matters a lot in a marriage, and its importance does not suddenly mean other things don't matter. Character matters. Values matter. And sex matters.
Why is this married woman dismissive of all that the Pastor guy is saying? She seems desperate to win him over to his side, Madam if you be Karma Sutra leave person wey get self control na, na by force?
She’s not wrong though. U religion ppl do not think logically but carry bible up and down. This a human thing not a bible thing. Humanity has existed long before Christianity and Islamic RULES and RESTRICTIONS.
@@MmesomachiiAunty, the 'human thing' was created by a spiritual thing in the Bible. You can't separate the two. That's why the Bible is there to guide you on it.
@@jointhecruiseplease we do, this is too small.... You can ask just three questions but ensure it covers details and give them time.... What's the essence of 10 questions unanswered
Honestly if everyone stayed a virgin this wouldn’t be an issue. If you never had sex, you have nothing to compare it to. You wouldn’t know they are “bad.” You may not like something but it doesn’t mean they are bad.
That’s true. Until your friends are enjoying fulfilling sexual relationships with their partners meanwhile you’re wondering why your experience is different
@@wizolufa1452 Like I said, you may not like something, and that’s why it’s important to be comfortable with your spouse and tell them you don’t like something or you may want to try something. But just because you don’t like it doesn’t mean it’s bad. If you are both virgins you will learn what each other like and dislike and go from there
So it doesn't matter that they are "bad", as long as you don't know? It does not matter if you never had an orgasm in your life as long as you don't know what an orgasm is? Ignorance for the win, I suppose. You may not like it when your guy partner finishes in two minutes, or refuses to ever give you head or when your woman partner subjects you to "chainsaw blowjobs", but it doesn't mean they are bad, I guess. lol. Yes, for your information, many people are bad at sex. Your first few relationships are the time to learn. Some people learn in their marriages, best of luck to them... but personally, I can't imagine sleeping with a thirty year old who I have to teach not to bite my d***.
When someone constantly demands sex before marriage, cognitive reasoning should instantly tell you that the person is more pleased and interested in sexual act than your personality. And even when they finally have the sex with you, and you get married. That union would always be about sex , lacking in the various sensations and funs that helps build a prospering union. In encapsulation always know this that there are people who have had series of sex in their relationship of many years and did not get married. The one demanding for sex ,goes out and then in a few months marries someone who no sex was done with. Love Waits!!!.
This is why I don’t put my mouth in Nigerian marriage issues. If you judge a woman who finds you attractive and desirable as not worthy of marriage then anything you see , take it like that. 😂
At least someone said it, such a selfish woman full of sex at her forefront. She doesn’t speak calmly, her head is always moving, her body is moving, pointing fingers and making faces. So unladylike
@@Mmesomachiishe mentioned if angels re having sex, how does that concern us here on earth? She asked here was the priest for Adam and Eve and yet every priest represents God so when God himself was talking directly to Adam and Eve did he need a priest. What’s logical about being stupid? She just wants to justify what she knows is wrong.
Human beings have a way of justifying whatsoever they do, the fact that some persons committed sin in the Bible is not a license to commit sin David committed sin in the Bible , does it gives me the license to commit sin, No Moses killed an Egyptian does it gives me a license to commit sin, Absolutely No. Let's be Careful, how we talk.. let's be truthful also, that other guy said it is a sin, but he will still continue, Thanks for saying the truth, God is capable of helping you my dear brother❤ just be sincere and decide also It's a decision, he giveth more Grace❤ Sex before marriage is a sin Also every thing should not be said but the truth has to be said. Wisdom is profitable to direct
You see oo😂 It has even translated to religion saf. You see some pastors engaging in acts which are outrightly wrong but because “ this person is my man of God” he can do no wrong in my sight , whatever he says I should do I will do whether bad or immoral, forgetting that this person is not God but is a mere mortal like themselves and can do wrong…smh!
There is no such thing as “sex before marriage”…. Biblically speaking… and according to God, to “marry” IS to “become one flesh with…(via sex)” God’s design is one man for one woman… Once you have sex with someone, according to God’s design, you have become one… even the LORD Jesus said it… A wedding is a CELEBRATION of MARRIAGE…. Bridal party, vows, dresses… All are man made… What is important is for people to realize that once they commit to someone in the act of sex, the two have become one… and that bond must be honored and respected…WHETHER OR NOT THEY HAVE HAD A WEDDING CEREMONY
There are of course things that constitute a righteous “marriage”…. The Bible forbids same-sex marriage, incest, etc… No wonder the only option for a divorced woman is to remain unmarried, or reconcile with her husband..
I salute whoever decided to put this together. Conversations like these need to be had. Novice or experts, everyone has an opinion, and no one's opinion is less important. Wrong or right, judging is what is keeping people from speaking, and in doing so, opening themselves up to loving corrections. There is nothing learned that cannot be unlearned. It is through honest conversations like these that help can come.
They need to understand that pre marital sex increases the chance of divorce. Numerous studies suggest this. But I think spiritually and physically there are reasons for not having pre marital sex.
@osikoyagift5609 my friend Google is free. You can find studies on it. Some studies suggest this and what could be the reasons, whilst it’s shown that those that had one partner before marriage are less prone to a divorce. Doesn’t mean there won’t be people that do marry as virgins and won’t still divorce off course there will.
@@Alex-nw1fr I do see your point and you’re absolutely correct! If someone isn’t committed then off it increases the risks. But the studies which you can Google cause when I searched months ago it did come up with results. I think when people have had multiple partners in the past it increases the likelihood of unfaithfulness. So going into marriage, the person will be more unlikely to be fully committed. But I do understand everyone sees these kinds of issues from different perspectives and that’s fine, we all will see things differently in life
It is one thing to love God as you choose to and it is another thing to love God biblically. It is one thing to experience the power of God because he is a merciful God and he extends his love to all, and it is another to constantly experience him because you choose to love and follow him constantly. There's a natural side of life that you want to do what pleases you but if you truly give your life to Jesus biblically and start following his word, he takes that self from you and gives you himself. But it is very evident that a lot of people only become "born-again" because of the fear that they wouldn't make heaven not because they want to surrender their lives to Christ. If you truly do, there wouldn't be a need to debate this amongst Christians. You may fall short at some point but choosing to follow your own/natural ways because you fell short is denying the truth that God can help you when you seek him and allow him to change you and work on you until you become what He chose for you. Let me explain this: people accept Jesus as Saviour but don't get to allow him become Lord in their lives. Our works(praying, being spiritual, serving in church, being a blessing to people, and all that) don't mean we're truly changed. And truly, until we allow him become Lord, our salvation is not complete. And if God's word says something is sin, it is sin. Stop debating that it is not when it clearly is. Just say you choose not to believe it! Just say you enjoy it and you're willing to pursue it!😅 Don't sugarcoat God's word because God is not to be mocked. And this is where I'll draw the line for anyone so that they won't dilute the power of God's word for me or anybody else. Ask the Holy Spirit to guide you when reading his word and not come and use your interpretations to change his intentions for us. Amen? Amen. Lord, please help those who are truly seeking you and want you to change them according to your word. Lord, please shine your light to all that don't even know what they're doing and help them to surrender to you truly, wholly, and intentionally. Turn the heart of this generation to you Lord and deliver us from self and our selfish ambitions. Amen.
I think a lot of people aren’t enlightened on sin. Sin is literally when something is harmful to you, your flesh. There is so much more cons than pros, which makes sense that it’s a sin. There is big and small sin in Islam. Zina (sex before marriage) is a big sin. Sex is not a sin, but SEX before marriage is. The cons are you getting STDs, false character judgment, unwanted pregnancy, mental attachment, and low self esteem through breakups. While the pros are you satisfying your urge and closeness to your partner (which could be a con if you breakup).
Please don’t use Islam as an example for sin or moral.. The founder the Arab prophet called Mohamed committed all manner of atrocities… adulterer, incest,armed robbery, child molester, sex slave , fornication etc
I understand her train of thoughts and maybe she wasn’t able to articulate it well due to time BUT if we agree we were made in God image and likeness and God created sex and marriage. and our good and bad prompts comes from Angelic or demon influences ( all celestial beings) den we could argue that some celestial beings might be having sex or something like sex. It’s not really a stretch to weave that concept into a believable theory. Questioning Biblical concepts doesn’t make a sinner. The truth is we don’t know what we don’t know. God has limited our understanding of many things and we can’t just ignore the possibility of these things happening. God has endorsed so many things in Judaism that we Christians frown upon today. We have prostitutes, incest, polygamy, scammers, etc woven into Jesus lineage. And that makes me question a lot of things. I’m not a sinner because I question grey areas of religion. I really love these woman in white. She knew her assignment in a debate.
The statement she made was wrong. .. because been in the heaven you won't remember anything like your husband ...and remember the Bible says that the angles are not the likeness of Human because we are human that has flesh and flesh is likely to sin we are just fighting it with God power .....now I think the woman need to read the book of revelation and see how God describe Angles ....the description is not of a human form ...but when God send an angle to us the Angel 😇 will appear in a human form not for you to be scared of them ..... May God give us understanding 🙏
@@EboseremenCharleson didn’t God bring different animals to Adam to choose to be his mate BUT he said No before God made Eve for him. What would have happened if Adam chose a lion, eagle, or cow as a mate? Have you read the Bible to see the description of cherubim’s … human with animal traits/characteristics. Angles even had babies with human women. Are cherubim’s part of the “image of us” God was referring to. We are a reflection of A PART of God… there are other images we don’t even know. Meanwhile Cherubim are high order Angels… pease do the maths.
Thanks to the real guy there for standing for the TRUTH-God’s word. For the tasters, be sure you teach your sons and daughters to keep tasting until they find the "best". Chai!
Sex should come last in a relationship, there’s the reason why there’s break up or divorce plenty in this generation. We throw way purpose and replace it with SEX. Purpose should be the first thing, coupled by love, and sex can now follow. A normal relationship should lead to marriage if we’re to be true to ourselves, but we make mistakes in getting it right because we do not put things in order. First, is purpose. The purpose should be why I am choosing this particular person, you comes with features you like to be on him or her, might be height, body type, how it talks, character e.t.c And you don’t have to be shy when you’re in talking stage. Ask questions and tell the person, this is the type of person I am, this is how I think I love it and that. True serious and intentional talking stage you would know better about the person you want to be with only if you intellectual enough to pay attention to detail, you can only get that if the only priority is “SEX”. Saying you must test before you can decide you’re staying means there’s no purpose than sex and you can easily comprise for height bidder. And in the process you’ve slept it 5-10 people.If I may ask, are you proud of that? And do you know a guy could act all reason for years just to get into your panties? Whose lose then? Still purpose, purpose works with love in the sense that, love dies at somethings but purpose powered it up again not SEX. Love dies in what sense, you can just wake on in way morning and be like why am I with this lady , what does he or she offers, you count, the only thing you could see is sex, why do I love her, it’s because of sex, the person will be like I deserve better, then you’ll come and be crying “Men are scum”, “After what have done for him, I gave him sex, this and that” and I did this, I did that. You’re the one doing giveaway. You can say if the guy didn’t meet up with your sexual desires,then that’s where love comes in, with love and patience you can blend the person to who you want. But take note, I’ll advise you to go for someone like you. In the sense that, you know you’re a naughty person, then you’re dating a church girl. You’ll have a problem to blend such might be hard. Be in a relationship with some that you feel you can control and listen when you finally get married. Attention to details is important, that’s why there’s courtship. Courtship is not for sex, it’s for examination and if the person meets up with your expectations. You’re free to go. Let be factual, don’t let us bring religion into it. Let be logical.
Sexual compatibility is one of the criteria people look for in spouses; it is not the only criteria. It is funny you think people should account for their partner's height during dating, but not whether they enjoy having sex with them? Which do you imagine is more important? Sex should absolutely not come last in a relationship. It can come last, if both parties want it that way, but it is naive to imagine partnered people should not care about the quality of their sexual lives-- considering that sex is really the only thing exclusive about a romantic relationship. "And in the process you’ve slept it 5-10 people." You say this like it is shameful? But what is the problem with sleeping with 5-10 people? If you ensure your partners are healthy and you use contraception?
I get you bro but things aren't how they used to be Have you ever wondered why is the sudden increase of illegitimate children You think it is like before where women have little to no idea of how sex works, they are no longer deprived of sexual ideas, they are now free cos they know what they want in sex Let be truthful and logical, this is not the 90's.
The people that reported to have the highest sexual satisfaction are people who are monogamous married and have low to no sexual partners outside of their spouse
The man (dark Ghanaian) on flowered mustard yellow shirt is amazing!! bold!! & Unapologetic with stating his values and expressing it. A man that honors God and His word. I live…&I love 🎉🎉💃🏽💃🏽
This is good stuff, and the fact it's coming from the Nigerian narrative. I'd love to see a session involving a politician if possible. And also, please add timestamps in your videos.. Thank you
In my opinion, sex is teachable. I don't believe anyone was born with the gift/ability of 'perfect' sex I think if we understand this, there'll be peace. I wish they had more time to express their opinions.
Sex being teachable is actually a factual statement. About the time constraint, we wish we could allow them to go on and on but the show had to be moderated for efficient time management. Thank you for your comments.
Lmao! Please get better informed people for this. It was not a balanced convo. Everyone on each side were just spewing rubbish except the Christian guy who was able to explain why he believes what he does..but he wasn’t even given enough time to make his points. I love jubilee so I was very happy to see this but the caliber of people on here is not diverse at all. They’re not well informed and could not properly inform us why they believe what they believe. Not that married woman in white saying she is born again 🤣🤣🤣 I laugh in Swahili. Ma’am check again plix. Also, how can compatibility be “mostly” determined by sex?? Aaaaah!!! The fact that anyone came out for that is scary.
I am on the fence with this one. I understand that sex in marriage is sacred. 2 bodies and souls join together. It is the most intimate, vulnerable and purest form of showing your love to someone, giving yourself to someone. Ideally, we should wait until marriage. But the reality is we don't. And lets not kid outselves....alot of men will absolutely NOT wait, though they might say otherwise. As a woman, I say you should be very careful and vet well before laying down with man (who isn't your husband). Because like it or not, the danger of creating soul ties is absolutely real.
This people dont even know its not all about religious sin. It is human nature to justify their flaws with projection. If someone is really observant and aware you would know there is something called energy.. You will test and test till you test your downfall in life. So many people carry energy in life and in Nigeria its even worst. Thats why Nigeria is termed as the worst country cause of the various energies in the people damaging the nation.
@francisadodo9399 In yoruba tradition we have olodumare and his words is supreme and makes a difference. Other cultures have their own Supreme being. The problem with u naija moralistic and poorly educated is the poor education u guys had that made u guys unable to think critically and understand the fundamentals of life. Sex is biological and.not sin. It's natural. Go read sex at dawn by /Christopher Ryan
It funny how we all have different world views with people. I find this woman most religious Nigerians castigate AS the best debater. She understands the concept of these sociological experiment. You should watch the foreign shows that started this trend THAT Nigerian producer - the intentionally choose people with different view points to create conflict AND eventually they find a middle ground.
I love that the Christian guy gets biblical. But we as Christians should be able to give an answer without also getting biblical. There is data and research out there that supports his claim. I pray it can be useful to him
Yess i agree with this..he should have known that the people who he is arguing with are not biblical so he would come from the area of morality, statistics and common senses.. him quoting the bible didnt help matters 😂 these people already had their fixes ideologies
It was very beautiful watching almost everyone in the panel contradict themselves and their values as the questions kept going. Talk about having Double Standards.
This video reveals something really fundamentally wrong with nigerian society, it's so deep that we do not even notice, and it's the ones that have the privilege to travel outside the country or "japa" that notice it. I'm talking about how foreign/imported culture of religion has entered too deep into our society that we have ingrained it in to our social, political and cultural identity, we have taken these "holy books" (written by humans with cognitive biases) as the default in society, hardly would you see nigerians quoting scientific books or research publications and journals, we need to learn tolerance. The word "sin" is strictly subjective and should not be used as a default way of society. It is well my brothers and sisters
U spoke my mind and am impressed with this . At least somebody among these mumu naija people get sense. They shud go read sex at dawn with Christopher Ryan. U can imagine people in 21 st century living their lives based on books and not on research. Sex is biological and it occurs naturally
Had to scroll too far to see a sensible comment. Everyone else is referencing the Bible. So many Christians don’t even know half of what’s in the Bible, they just cherry pick verses. The same Bible says it’s actually better to remain celibate and single. I’m sure a Christian reading this right now thinks I’m making this up. Go read 1 Corinthians 7 v 1 - 8.
Sex before marriage is Sin. A person cannot say they are Christian but break principles of Christianity. Many say they’re believers but believe what they want. You are either hot or cold. Lukewarmness is not acceptable in Christianity. Do not deceive yourself.
I have been married for 12 years now i and my husband never had sex before marriage. And i can say he is the best man i ever met in bed in everything. I wish i had waited and kept myself for him.
Here’s the truth about people that say I must test before marriage… you don’t trust God enough to give you a beautiful sex life💀. If you trust him for other things, why won’t you trust that he will also give you someone that you are sexually compatible with. By the way, what is sexual compatibility? People can learn to have sex with each other. You have your wholeeee life with this person to learn.
People don't understand that sex before marriage is not for God, It's for our own good. God commands us to be pure for our own good. There are so many Physical and spiritual consequences of having sex before marriage. If you are lucky not to see them your children will surely suffer for your sins. The devil uses the sex tool to destroy family and marriages in so many ways. I know people who got demons of stagnation, anger etc. Just because of sleeping with a particular person.
@@DivineMotherGoddess888 you didn't understand, we don't have sex to please God(it's not for God ) but God put up that law for our own good, to save us from diseases, spiritual complications that come due to sleeping with the wrong people, unwanted pregnancies etc.
@@carolinechowe198 you are so badly misinformed. Sex and humans existed THOUSANDS of years before MAN CREATED religion. Marriage also predates religion. God did NOT ordain sex for marriage., sex and humans were happening prior to man placed “god” into religion. MAN CREATED marriage. And man created marriage for the sole purpose of BUSINESS. Man SOLD WOMEN into marriage to other empires to form allies & expand their wealth. Religion is 100% manmade and was created to CONTROL the masses. And y’all follow blindly just like they knew yall would. Giving them complete control of your minds & lives. This is exactly why the overwhelming vast majority of the African continent is owned by Europeans & the Chinese.
What's your stance on this? Is having sex before marriage right or wrong?
It’s wrong
Realism and bible doesn’t work walk hand in hand sha
So you cant be logical with the Bible, it’s just one exposure and it’s done by the holy spirit, anything outside that is sin
Logically it may not be a sin, but if the Bible says it’s a sin, it is
Don’t help God to reason.
@@iyedefunmilayo3353I stand with you Omo iya mi
More vids and prompts pls!
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The woman in white need to learn communication...she talks a lot but does'nt listen. She also thinks she knows more than what she really knows...too much generalisation she has...I really hope I am not like her.
More videos on the way 🚀
I am just realizing that many people call themselves Christian but they don’t even know what it is
Veery true
I'm very shocked too
It’s scary
Asking about baby angels
Lol we hope will one day know what it is.
what is it ?? you are a christian by believing that JESUS died for your sins and though his sacrifice you have peace with GOD romans5:1 dont be a hypocrite
So basically they are saying that if you taste and you don't like, you just keep sleeping around with everyone until you get what you like?? That's such a ridiculous way to look at relationships. The truth is, you will always have to teach and instruct regardless. And the sex will change over time regardless so there's no reason for us to excuse a lack of self control. There is no need to have sex before marriage, and those who make this excuse of "testing" end up sleeping around, cheating, and or unsatisfied and that's the truth.
And where does it stop? Cause there will always ve better out there. Do you continue on that path?
Well written👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 just common sense that people refuse to obey
Can that mother among them look her daughter in the face and tell her to taste all the waters till she gets the right man?? Whatever we give, we must be able to take.
You're smart
The world definition of sex and love. We living in a time where most people have put God's word aside and take their experience above God's word. Crazy!!
The lady on white saying she is a born again Christian just cracked me up 😂😂😂
Why, do married born again Christians not have sex? Mtsschewww🙄
I swear, she just dey cap
Lying to herself
It’s always the born again Christian 😂😂 that had a wild lifestyle before being born again
with her 3 bibles, still lost
If you’re a Christian, it’s not debatable, it IS a sin because God said it is (and explained why) end of. Before I was married, I was fornicating but I would never condone it and try to say it was okay, I knew it was wrong.
Please share the Bible verse where God himself said it was a sin.
Jesus never even said anything about it. Best you can find is Paul talking about it, and Paul himself even said it’s best people stay celibate and never get married. 1 Corinthians 7 v 8
In 1 Corinthians 7 v 1 Paul says it’s better for a man to not even touch a woman period if he can help it. Does any Christian really believe that this is what God wants for us?
If God really didn’t want you to do it then he would have said so himself. But these days people don’t actually read what the Bible says, they just read their own interpretation into it
@@wizolufa1452 ...or they read into it what they've been told it says
Thank you.
@@wizolufa14521 Corinthians 6:13&18-20, Colossians 3:5,revelation 21:8, Galatians 5:19-21, Ephesians 5:3, Jude 1:7, 1 Corinthians 6:9-11, 1 Thessalonians 4:3-4. The bible talks about sexual immorality and fornication a lot and continues to talk about how those that fornicate and commit sexual immorality will not inherit the kingdom of God. You cannot change the word of God.
@@wizolufa1452sexual immorality is fornication, masturbation anything sexual before marriage. As Christians it is a must to stay holy. Sexual immorality is a sin that you don’t fall into but walk into. It is a sin against our own body. It is compared to prositution in the Bible because when you’re born again you become one with the father. You cannot go and then share your body with another. Sex is not bad. But it is only good IN marriage because that what God created it for
If you have a clue of how sex before marriage is destroying marriages, you won’t dare sex before marriage. With all these sex before marriage in our days , you can see how marriages are being messed up because couples find it difficult to bond due to many body counts.
@oganla1 No sir, foolishness is to think that 4yrs in uni means you know, sir you know nothing at that stage. Foolishness is thinking that you know more than your creator, that arrogance is at the base of ignorance.
😂😂😂😂😂Epic response@@loadedpipe1311
Haha, this is pure ignorance, pastors in Nigeria do corner betting everyday, make una dey deceive unaselves there, bible was a book written by people like you and i.
@@Trichmedianow you are talking nonsense, The bible is an inspiration of the holy spirit writing by men, when the bible told us not to gamble and a pastor is gambling, the pastor isn't meeting God's standard
@@achonyeginika2195 The problem with you religious zealots, you speak with emotions rather than logics.
What I meant by "corner betting" wasn't related to gambling at all, if you were not so slow, you should have known that I was speaking in slang. Well, I am not going to explain further.
With that being said, were you there when the Bible was written? if it wasn't introduced by the colonial masters, do you think you would have known about it?
There's nothing holy or inspirational about the Bible or the so called people that wrote it.
Everything about the Bible is dictatorial, dogmatic, threats, punishment, demolish and deaths.
What has the Bible done positively for the Africans since it was introduced to them?.
It's a pity that you guys are so dumb and dumber to consciously see that the Bible has taken you all to the abyss in Africa.
If you want to be a Christian, you MUST follow the teachings of the Bible. You don't choose which instructions to follow.. You loose your will and take God's will.. Those who claimed to be Christians on the show are just living for their pleasure not the lord's pleasure.
It's so disappointing. May God help us all
Bless you! They give Christianity a bad rap
God bless you
Very disappointing... The woman who claims to be born-again didn't even disappoint me, cos I don't think she's born-again. She doesn't even believe the bible
Love this
An Adultrous and sexual generation indeed.. If all you live for is sex, you're not different from animals. We have a higher purpose in Life than sexual urges.
An adulterous generation indeed! I wonder which Bible those claiming to be born again read. Sex before marriage is a sin whether we like it or not. For your own information, The Almighty God is the one who officiated the marriage between Adam and Eve. He is the one who told them to multiply and subdue the earth. Those supporting sex before marriage are not spiritual. Do you think you're more knowledgeable and intelligent than God our Creator? Don't worry. The reward for your sinful life is waiting for you
One of the best comments but sex in marriage is also important Sir
There's a higher purpose in life, correct. Sex is a higher purpose in marriage, approved by God, in marriage. If a woman/man has a sexual urge it's not a sin so long as it fulfills the purpose of God in marriage.
Wow you put it well.
@@mideolumide3671again IN marriage. Outside of that it's a sin
The married lady shows that someone being married doesn’t qualify them to give relationship advices
Am telling you, I was shocked. How will this she advice her teenage daughter?? Chai this generation?!
Rightttt😂😂
From this depiction, we can see that so she actually tested many times before finding her husband, not to be that person but then from her utterances that’s what I deduced 😭😂and that can have a negative impact in the future one day tbh 🤦🏽♀️
She's probably married to a goat and I dont mean it as an insult to a man. She legit had no wedding. Just tied the goat inside her house and calls herself its wife
Walahi!!!
The problem is that you're viewing them from just one perspective, and I agree with her that we are Realist before Christians
Even if you stand alone, stand right
"What if I was made to be a pornstar?" Took me out, the highest reaching I've heard in a long time
Pastor's child fa
His parents failed in raising him
@rosettekalombo3072 I hope you win in training yours, oga judge.
@@adilamusicTV lmao I was not insulting his parents but the thought of a pastors child speaking like him is sad
I was shocked to my bone marrows as well! I couldn't believe my ears
I dont know where you guys bring this people from 😂😂
Also wondering 😂
I think the University of Comedians, because.....????? 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Honestly!!
@@lifewithmahalia😂😂😂
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I'm a huge fan of Jubilee's work and I'm happy to see something like this that is relatable to me as a Nigeria
We're happy to see this comment 🤗
Thank you so much.
We have more videos on the way ❤
me too
I thought it was jubilee until the video started playing, you're right. I hope they do "odd man out" too
Me too!!
Finally we're be seeing our Home content ❤❤.
Please I'd like to feature on this show please
I have shared your content to my friends and I hope to se more awesome works from you guys. @@jointhecruise
The lady in white💀💀💀Lord have mercy on us all
have mercy on her o abeg
Instead, you pray for her that God should have just enough mercy on her to breakout of the evil demon spirits’ stronghold
Going through the comments, I am happy to see that people still respect God and follow the Bible. We are in this together 😀
Yes ❤️❤️🙏💕💕💯🔥🩵🩷
The lady in white wasn't making no single sense and she saying she's a born again Christian made me Crack so bad😭
I am beyond shocked by her sense of reasoning
Honestly, she is not wise at all. I honestly feel sorry for her children and the type of knowledge she is impacting in them. SHE IS NOT A CHRISTIAN, NOT A BORN AGAIN. HER FAITH IS QUESTIONABLE.
Exactly my thought too, i was beyond shock to hear her say boldly that she is a born again. Irs even how she is atguing with her full chest. And telling the false story of the bible.@@jessicakizito7001
As in
Her husband will watch her clearly sha 😅
I appreciate the man of God who made it clear from the onset that he’s a student of the Bible. I hope more students of the Bible can be more vocal about their biblical position.
what about the Biblical position of the "man after God's own heart" King David, whom had hundreds of wives and concubines?....Biblical only means that a thing/concept can be found in the bible. It does not mean that the thing/concept is true or universally "right".
@@blakeblackmon2015King David or Solomon? Y’all just speak anyhow on things you have no clue about. Try and be using your God given thinking capabilities. Also, educate yourself, Solomon had lots of wives and concubines and it was said that doing this drove him further and further away from God, that tells us that even by Mosaic standards (which most of them were abolished when Jesus died for us and cleansed us of our sins) what Solomon was doing was not pleasing in God’s eye.
David himself had more than one wife, yes, however in the days of Moses, before Christ came, this was somewhat normal. Solomon’s case was extreme, but David’s wasn’t uncommon then. And even so, there were times God was displeased with him for it. As I said, all this was before Christ came and paved a new path for us to live our lives in a Godly way.
@@chisomo8088 it's how you judge someone with so much ignorance and pride. Life doesn't end in those close-minded views of yours.
Christianity as a religion is also not one-sided like 1 + 1 = 2, if it was, there won't be different denominations with opposing doctrines.
He’s not a student of the bible he’s a king James student doubt he read the Dead Sea scrolls and many other ancient biblical text taken out of the modern day bible.
@@chisomo8088god wasn’t displeased with him when god approved him being on the throne and said David was a man after his own heart mind you David was a murder and a fornicator.
This is the wrong question. Whatever you choose, accept the consequences as much as you accept the advantages, that's the only way to live a life without regrets.
very well said👏🏿
Well said. This comment is fire cos there’s good and bad in every decision
Sex before marriage i did that shit now I know better and am teaching my girls the value of purity before marriage. You can never get it wrong with God when you wait.
To me sex before marriage is 100% very wrong . Its just the society makes it to people believe that its good. To me am 100% against sex before marriage
I know some people who never had a sex before married. They really respect their body because, they never know what will happen if they had a free sex, for example you can get aids, or even worst for a women is they do it with guy who doens't have any responsibility if they get pregnant, the guy who only want to having fun with girls , not to marry her.
The pastor is the most enlightened person in this video
Na, he's still drinking that koolaid
Enlightened based on what perspective? They all had their perspectives and that some tarry well with you doesn't make others' stupid.
The lady on glasses will not kill me
Her facial expressions 😂😂
😂😂😂😂
She was lost for words but her expressions did the "talking" 😂
You can say it again😂😂
😂😂😂she was wondering how many ladies the speaker will marry, in the not-so-distant future
God is the creator of marriage and sex. Sex outside marriage is a SIN. Marriage is God's product, to succeed in it, you MUST do it in God's way. PERIOD
No it’s not
What defines a marriage in Gods eyes?
I know some people who never had a sex before married. They really respect their body because, they never know what will happen if they had a free sex, for example you can get aids, or even worst for a women is they do it with guy who doens't have any responsibility if they get pregnant, the guy who only want to having fun with girls , not to marry her.
I cry for our generation. Numerous times in the Bible. Both Old and New Testament it written that fornication is a sin before God.
Why trying to be wise than God ??
Like WHY????????!!!
My heart bleed for our generation 💔
Which generation ? It’s always been like this.
Honestly
We, pro-sexual purity guys, need to come with stronger arguments because darkness is not even smilling
My dear, that woman mixing up Lot and Noah is driving me nuts
They don’t mention how sec before marriage can open you up to sexual addiction, bondage and demonic access. It’s God’s order and Holiness that matters not our pleasure.
Stop calling ppl darkness 😂
Dis debate isn't about Christianity
Y'all need to know everything isn't about you
Okay@@uchegbudivine6885
Darkness can mean ignorance too fyi
I enjoy this conversation. It reveals the mindset of the generation we live in.
So many points giving to support sex before marriage. Most of what what I hear here are people trying to reason things out while leaving the Bible out of the discuss.
The married woman who said she has three Bibles and is a Christian. Having 3 Bibles doesn't mean you know the Bible.
Sex before marriage is a sin. Let's not Sugar coat this issue.
Tell them oo, sin before marriage is a sin
She also doesn’t understand marriage either unfortunately
This debate isn't about Christianity
@@uchegbudivine6885but it is though, it the context of Nigeria (a deeply religious society) it really is. Also, most of the discussion prompts touched on religion
@@chisomo8088 y focusing on only Christianity
The woman in the white top dey like nack sha😂😂😂
I swr😂
😂😂😂😂
I am Rwandese and I’ve been thinking to host this kind of talks …I am impressed that my Nigerian fellow young people are doing this I must subscribe and be a part
Those that stand for sin are always more than those that stand with righteousness.
Men loved darkness rather than light
Very true. And those that stand for sin are always loud and confident. Very crazy.
Is sex a sin?
@@queeneze sex out of marriage is a sin
Sex before marriage is a sin that's what God says. The married woman really disappointed me with her takes. Can she advice her kids to do what she did? With the risk of Sexually transmitted disease, unwanted pregnancies, getting attached to someone that u might not be married to, to sleep around until u find d right one?
Plus, when it comes to marriage when u get old its character, not anything sexual
Well said
I agree with everything you said. Her mindset of a selfish person, immature to an extend
That's your own opinion, things doesn't and can never work the same way for everyone. The married woman doesn't need your validation or permission to make such decision.
She speaks like someone who knows everything. May God convict her before it's too late
STDs and unwanted pregnancies are also things that can happen within marriages. Sex ed and sexual safety is what can protect people from these risks, not marriage. Having sex with a person does not attach you to them, and you don't need to have sex with a person to become attached.
You're also insinuating that old people have no sex life? When in fact, they do and should.
Sex matters a lot in a marriage, and its importance does not suddenly mean other things don't matter. Character matters. Values matter. And sex matters.
Why is this married woman dismissive of all that the Pastor guy is saying?
She seems desperate to win him over to his side, Madam if you be Karma Sutra leave person wey get self control na, na by force?
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She’s not wrong though. U religion ppl do not think logically but carry bible up and down. This a human thing not a bible thing. Humanity has existed long before Christianity and Islamic RULES and RESTRICTIONS.
Ashy most def.
That's how evil is. Always trying hard to defeat you. Good thoughts and good are gentle voices that are not pushy.
@@MmesomachiiAunty, the 'human thing' was created by a spiritual thing in the Bible. You can't separate the two. That's why the Bible is there to guide you on it.
The lady on white with a pink crocs, I feel for her husband.
Same thought here, I pity that man.
Yes mad urking lawd. Sounds all over the got darn place
Lol she no send oo
She just open mouth waaaaaa🤦🏽♀️😂😂
😂😂😂 they are one squad
Lady in white is cracking me up 😂😂
She's so confident even😭
She’s lucky. Most Nigerian men will judge her and be managing while cheating on the saints the they chose. 😂
Our Ghanaian brother made more sense ...kudos to him 👏
Dah guy is Nigerian influenced you can easily tell
U Don start
Thank you for this video. Topics like this always need to be discussed.
There is a lot of information left out, they should be given more time to express their views.
That's why we're here 🙏🙏
Hahaha, you guys want longer videos. We gat you
exactly how i feel, the time is kinda short but the convo is cool though
@@jointhecruiseyeah we do
Thank you
@@jointhecruiseplease we do, this is too small.... You can ask just three questions but ensure it covers details and give them time.... What's the essence of 10 questions unanswered
The lady on glasses is taking me out 😭😹
Honestly if everyone stayed a virgin this wouldn’t be an issue. If you never had sex, you have nothing to compare it to. You wouldn’t know they are “bad.” You may not like something but it doesn’t mean they are bad.
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That’s true. Until your friends are enjoying fulfilling sexual relationships with their partners meanwhile you’re wondering why your experience is different
@@wizolufa1452 Like I said, you may not like something, and that’s why it’s important to be comfortable with your spouse and tell them you don’t like something or you may want to try something. But just because you don’t like it doesn’t mean it’s bad. If you are both virgins you will learn what each other like and dislike and go from there
So it doesn't matter that they are "bad", as long as you don't know? It does not matter if you never had an orgasm in your life as long as you don't know what an orgasm is? Ignorance for the win, I suppose.
You may not like it when your guy partner finishes in two minutes, or refuses to ever give you head or when your woman partner subjects you to "chainsaw blowjobs", but it doesn't mean they are bad, I guess. lol.
Yes, for your information, many people are bad at sex.
Your first few relationships are the time to learn. Some people learn in their marriages, best of luck to them... but personally, I can't imagine sleeping with a thirty year old who I have to teach not to bite my d***.
Exactly my point
When someone constantly demands sex before marriage, cognitive reasoning should instantly tell you that the person is more pleased and interested in sexual act than your personality. And even when they finally have the sex with you, and you get married. That union would always be about sex , lacking in the various sensations and funs that helps build a prospering union. In encapsulation always know this that there are people who have had series of sex in their relationship of many years and did not get married. The one demanding for sex ,goes out and then in a few months marries someone who no sex was done with. Love Waits!!!.
Love waits 👌🏽🙏🏽
Thank you for sharing.
Or maybe the person is just physically attracted to you. Crazy idea I know
Marriage is too deep for sex to be a priority 😂
@@wizolufa1452or even better the person might not be religious 😮 hmmmm
This is why I don’t put my mouth in Nigerian marriage issues. If you judge a woman who finds you attractive and desirable as not worthy of marriage then anything you see , take it like that. 😂
That woman in white is talking nonsense
In what way? I agreed with most of what she said bc as she said it’s realistic and logical
At least someone said it, such a selfish woman full of sex at her forefront. She doesn’t speak calmly, her head is always moving, her body is moving, pointing fingers and making faces. So unladylike
She’s a very daft woman. 😂
@@Mmesomachiishe mentioned if angels re having sex, how does that concern us here on earth? She asked here was the priest for Adam and Eve and yet every priest represents God so when God himself was talking directly to Adam and Eve did he need a priest. What’s logical about being stupid? She just wants to justify what she knows is wrong.
@@marizechevo1843👏🏾
Human beings have a way of justifying whatsoever they do, the fact that some persons committed sin in the Bible is not a license to commit sin
David committed sin in the Bible , does it gives me the license to commit sin, No
Moses killed an Egyptian does it gives me a license to commit sin, Absolutely No.
Let's be Careful, how we talk.. let's be truthful also, that other guy said it is a sin, but he will still continue, Thanks for saying the truth, God is capable of helping you my dear brother❤ just be sincere and decide also
It's a decision, he giveth more Grace❤
Sex before marriage is a sin
Also every thing should not be said but the truth has to be said. Wisdom is profitable to direct
You see oo😂
It has even translated to religion saf. You see some pastors engaging in acts which are outrightly wrong but because “ this person is my man of God” he can do no wrong in my sight , whatever he says I should do I will do whether bad or immoral, forgetting that this person is not God but is a mere mortal like themselves and can do wrong…smh!
There is no such thing as “sex before marriage”…. Biblically speaking… and according to God, to “marry” IS to “become one flesh with…(via sex)”
God’s design is one man for one woman…
Once you have sex with someone, according to God’s design, you have become one… even the LORD Jesus said it…
A wedding is a CELEBRATION of MARRIAGE…. Bridal party, vows, dresses… All are man made…
What is important is for people to realize that once they commit to someone in the act of sex, the two have become one… and that bond must be honored and respected…WHETHER OR NOT THEY HAVE HAD A WEDDING CEREMONY
There are of course things that constitute a righteous “marriage”….
The Bible forbids same-sex marriage, incest, etc…
No wonder the only option for a divorced woman is to remain unmarried, or reconcile with her husband..
I have a multitude of biblical references… if anyone is interested, let me know…
Godspeed😊
@@ndanji8234 I think you have a point. Yeah, interested!
I salute whoever decided to put this together. Conversations like these need to be had. Novice or experts, everyone has an opinion, and no one's opinion is less important. Wrong or right, judging is what is keeping people from speaking, and in doing so, opening themselves up to loving corrections. There is nothing learned that cannot be unlearned. It is through honest conversations like these that help can come.
Fantastic. I follow Jubilee discussion too and I love the Naija flavour of this topic. Keep it going, please.
We're glad you enjoyed this show.
We have more interesting conversations on the way!
Thank you for sharing your thoughts.
When this married woman came to the angel part I just knew she wasnt so smart 😂 😂, What a woman.
Lmao she’s a dummie
I swear
That woman fall my hands 😢😢😢
Me too 😂
Me tooo
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They need to understand that pre marital sex increases the chance of divorce. Numerous studies suggest this. But I think spiritually and physically there are reasons for not having pre marital sex.
i disagree...non committal people increase the chance and likelihood of divorce
@osikoyagift5609 my friend Google is free. You can find studies on it. Some studies suggest this and what could be the reasons, whilst it’s shown that those that had one partner before marriage are less prone to a divorce. Doesn’t mean there won’t be people that do marry as virgins and won’t still divorce off course there will.
@@Alex-nw1fr I do see your point and you’re absolutely correct! If someone isn’t committed then off it increases the risks. But the studies which you can Google cause when I searched months ago it did come up with results. I think when people have had multiple partners in the past it increases the likelihood of unfaithfulness. So going into marriage, the person will be more unlikely to be fully committed. But I do understand everyone sees these kinds of issues from different perspectives and that’s fine, we all will see things differently in life
Please share them. I'll like to read. Una go just dey pull things from air to make point. Show us!
@@Ah_Mariee stop being difficult go and google for goodness sake
Nice a Nigerian Jubilee. I’m seated 😂🔥
I am shocked aswell 😂
Choooo palmwinepapi Dey here too ⚡️⚡️
It is one thing to love God as you choose to and it is another thing to love God biblically. It is one thing to experience the power of God because he is a merciful God and he extends his love to all, and it is another to constantly experience him because you choose to love and follow him constantly.
There's a natural side of life that you want to do what pleases you but if you truly give your life to Jesus biblically and start following his word, he takes that self from you and gives you himself. But it is very evident that a lot of people only become "born-again" because of the fear that they wouldn't make heaven not because they want to surrender their lives to Christ. If you truly do, there wouldn't be a need to debate this amongst Christians. You may fall short at some point but choosing to follow your own/natural ways because you fell short is denying the truth that God can help you when you seek him and allow him to change you and work on you until you become what He chose for you.
Let me explain this: people accept Jesus as Saviour but don't get to allow him become Lord in their lives. Our works(praying, being spiritual, serving in church, being a blessing to people, and all that) don't mean we're truly changed. And truly, until we allow him become Lord, our salvation is not complete.
And if God's word says something is sin, it is sin. Stop debating that it is not when it clearly is. Just say you choose not to believe it! Just say you enjoy it and you're willing to pursue it!😅 Don't sugarcoat God's word because God is not to be mocked. And this is where I'll draw the line for anyone so that they won't dilute the power of God's word for me or anybody else. Ask the Holy Spirit to guide you when reading his word and not come and use your interpretations to change his intentions for us. Amen? Amen.
Lord, please help those who are truly seeking you and want you to change them according to your word. Lord, please shine your light to all that don't even know what they're doing and help them to surrender to you truly, wholly, and intentionally.
Turn the heart of this generation to you Lord and deliver us from self and our selfish ambitions. Amen.
Topics like this are indeed relevant.....good work
I think a lot of people aren’t enlightened on sin. Sin is literally when something is harmful to you, your flesh. There is so much more cons than pros, which makes sense that it’s a sin. There is big and small sin in Islam. Zina (sex before marriage) is a big sin. Sex is not a sin, but SEX before marriage is. The cons are you getting STDs, false character judgment, unwanted pregnancy, mental attachment, and low self esteem through breakups. While the pros are you satisfying your urge and closeness to your partner (which could be a con if you breakup).
Please don’t use Islam as an example for sin or moral..
The founder the Arab prophet called Mohamed committed all manner of atrocities… adulterer, incest,armed robbery, child molester, sex slave , fornication etc
Beautiful ❤
Sis you explained it so well❤️❤️❤️❤️
‘Who knows what’s going on in heaven where the angels are’😂😂😂😂
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Who be this woman in white??? Whats she saying nitori olorun? Female angels, baby angels?
God abeg 😂😂😂
I understand her train of thoughts and maybe she wasn’t able to articulate it well due to time BUT if we agree we were made in God image and likeness and God created sex and marriage. and our good and bad prompts comes from Angelic or demon influences ( all celestial beings) den we could argue that some celestial beings might be having sex or something like sex.
It’s not really a stretch to weave that concept into a believable theory. Questioning Biblical concepts doesn’t make a sinner. The truth is we don’t know what we don’t know. God has limited our understanding of many things and we can’t just ignore the possibility of these things happening.
God has endorsed so many things in Judaism that we Christians frown upon today. We have prostitutes, incest, polygamy, scammers, etc woven into Jesus lineage. And that makes me question a lot of things.
I’m not a sinner because I question grey areas of religion. I really love these woman in white. She knew her assignment in a debate.
The statement she made was wrong. .. because been in the heaven you won't remember anything like your husband ...and remember the Bible says that the angles are not the likeness of Human because we are human that has flesh and flesh is likely to sin we are just fighting it with God power .....now I think the woman need to read the book of revelation and see how God describe Angles ....the description is not of a human form ...but when God send an angle to us the Angel 😇 will appear in a human form not for you to be scared of them .....
May God give us understanding 🙏
@@EboseremenCharleson didn’t God bring different animals to Adam to choose to be his mate BUT he said No before God made Eve for him.
What would have happened if Adam chose a lion, eagle, or cow as a mate? Have you read the Bible to see the description of cherubim’s … human with animal traits/characteristics.
Angles even had babies with human women.
Are cherubim’s part of the “image of us” God was referring to. We are a reflection of A PART of God… there are other images we don’t even know. Meanwhile Cherubim are high order Angels… pease do the maths.
@@filmgal7065 Hmmmm....may God still give us understanding 😂😂 ....but the maths is mathing 😂😂😂
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A born again who doesn't believe that sex before marriage is a sin... wow
This is the funniest I’ve watched in a long time!!!
Glad you loved it 🤗🙏🏽
😂😂 When it comes go religion people like to pick and choose what to follow, The Bible and Quran Clearly states do not Fornicate & commit Adultery.
😂😂😂 honestly and it's very funny. You know the truth dear.
That’s what happens when the enemy is the ruler of the world
Thanks to the real guy there for standing for the TRUTH-God’s word.
For the tasters, be sure you teach your sons and daughters to keep tasting until they find the "best". Chai!
This guy that’s always asking questions !😂😭
The pastor guy spoke the truth 😮💨
Omo that lady in white no get sense at all😂😂😂
Honestly we need to see the uncut video of this session 😂
You don't want to see it. I promise 😂
We want to see it please @@jointhecruise
Wetin be kid angels? 😅😅😅
Aunty just Dey spill Wetin I nor understand. 😂😂
😂😂😂😂😂she’s so funny 😂
How you go just reason that kin thing. The woman is clearly crazy 😂
Sex should come last in a relationship, there’s the reason why there’s break up or divorce plenty in this generation.
We throw way purpose and replace it with SEX. Purpose should be the first thing, coupled by love, and sex can now follow.
A normal relationship should lead to marriage if we’re to be true to ourselves, but we make mistakes in getting it right because we do not put things in order.
First, is purpose. The purpose should be why I am choosing this particular person, you comes with features you like to be on him or her, might be height, body type, how it talks, character e.t.c
And you don’t have to be shy when you’re in talking stage. Ask questions and tell the person, this is the type of person I am, this is how I think I love it and that. True serious and intentional talking stage you would know better about the person you want to be with only if you intellectual enough to pay attention to detail, you can only get that if the only priority is “SEX”.
Saying you must test before you can decide you’re staying means there’s no purpose than sex and you can easily comprise for height bidder. And in the process you’ve slept it 5-10 people.If I may ask, are you proud of that? And do you know a guy could act all reason for years just to get into your panties? Whose lose then?
Still purpose, purpose works with love in the sense that, love dies at somethings but purpose powered it up again not SEX. Love dies in what sense, you can just wake on in way morning and be like why am I with this lady , what does he or she offers, you count, the only thing you could see is sex, why do I love her, it’s because of sex, the person will be like I deserve better, then you’ll come and be crying “Men are scum”, “After what have done for him, I gave him sex, this and that” and I did this, I did that. You’re the one doing giveaway.
You can say if the guy didn’t meet up with your sexual desires,then that’s where love comes in, with love and patience you can blend the person to who you want. But take note, I’ll advise you to go for someone like you. In the sense that, you know you’re a naughty person, then you’re dating a church girl. You’ll have a problem to blend such might be hard. Be in a relationship with some that you feel you can control and listen when you finally get married.
Attention to details is important, that’s why there’s courtship. Courtship is not for sex, it’s for examination and if the person meets up with your expectations. You’re free to go.
Let be factual, don’t let us bring religion into it. Let be logical.
Sexual compatibility is one of the criteria people look for in spouses; it is not the only criteria. It is funny you think people should account for their partner's height during dating, but not whether they enjoy having sex with them? Which do you imagine is more important?
Sex should absolutely not come last in a relationship. It can come last, if both parties want it that way, but it is naive to imagine partnered people should not care about the quality of their sexual lives-- considering that sex is really the only thing exclusive about a romantic relationship.
"And in the process you’ve slept it 5-10 people." You say this like it is shameful? But what is the problem with sleeping with 5-10 people? If you ensure your partners are healthy and you use contraception?
I get you bro but things aren't how they used to be
Have you ever wondered why is the sudden increase of illegitimate children
You think it is like before where women have little to no idea of how sex works, they are no longer deprived of sexual ideas, they are now free cos they know what they want in sex
Let be truthful and logical, this is not the 90's.
You brought people with different views, perspective! Good job!
The people that reported to have the highest sexual satisfaction are people who are monogamous married and have low to no sexual partners outside of their spouse
The man (dark Ghanaian) on flowered mustard yellow shirt is amazing!! bold!! & Unapologetic with stating his values and expressing it.
A man that honors God and His word.
I live…&I love 🎉🎉💃🏽💃🏽
That man showed that he was a lier but his actions
This is good stuff, and the fact it's coming from the Nigerian narrative.
I'd love to see a session involving a politician if possible.
And also, please add timestamps in your videos.. Thank you
Thank you for the suggestion! 🙏🏽
In my opinion, sex is teachable. I don't believe anyone was born with the gift/ability of 'perfect' sex I think if we understand this, there'll be peace.
I wish they had more time to express their opinions.
Sex being teachable is actually a factual statement. About the time constraint, we wish we could allow them to go on and on but the show had to be moderated for efficient time management. Thank you for your comments.
"Are you getting what i'm saying?"
😂😂😂 will you just talk mister
The lady in white needs an interview with jordan peterson
He'll finish her 💀
She no fit survive
Her mind would probably give up (intellectual overload/exhaustion)
Yes, love Jordan Peterson 😂
Being spiritual is the best thing that can happen to anybody...PREACH!
Promiscuity should not be praised.
After this show, the lady on white and the guy on bears fit knack 😂😂
😂😂😂My God I said this 😂😂
Lmao! Please get better informed people for this. It was not a balanced convo. Everyone on each side were just spewing rubbish except the Christian guy who was able to explain why he believes what he does..but he wasn’t even given enough time to make his points. I love jubilee so I was very happy to see this but the caliber of people on here is not diverse at all. They’re not well informed and could not properly inform us why they believe what they believe.
Not that married woman in white saying she is born again 🤣🤣🤣 I laugh in Swahili. Ma’am check again plix.
Also, how can compatibility be “mostly” determined by sex?? Aaaaah!!! The fact that anyone came out for that is scary.
Thank you for the suggestions.
We're still working towards getting better.
Thank you so much for watching 🙏🏽
They do not have to be well informed. I believe they are here to give their opinions. It doesn't have to make sense to you.
@@ayodeleayotunde5809even when she misquoted the Bible? When did Noah sleep with his daughter? He only had 3 sons 😂😂😂
She embarrassed me, I am sure even people steadily committing the sin would be so embarrassed 😂 😂
You said it all.
I am on the fence with this one. I understand that sex in marriage is sacred. 2 bodies and souls join together. It is the most intimate, vulnerable and purest form of showing your love to someone, giving yourself to someone. Ideally, we should wait until marriage. But the reality is we don't. And lets not kid outselves....alot of men will absolutely NOT wait, though they might say otherwise. As a woman, I say you should be very careful and vet well before laying down with man (who isn't your husband). Because like it or not, the danger of creating soul ties is absolutely real.
That Bible guy just dey come out for everything 😂😂
This people dont even know its not all about religious sin. It is human nature to justify their flaws with projection. If someone is really observant and aware you would know there is something called energy.. You will test and test till you test your downfall in life. So many people carry energy in life and in Nigeria its even worst. Thats why Nigeria is termed as the worst country cause of the various energies in the people damaging the nation.
Hmm!
That's a whole different.
Hopefully, more people get to see this!
Spiritual that is what it is
Broo….this is so great,I enjoy watching this,please give us more of this content yeah keep it up,it’s lively❤️🙌🙌
We're glad you enjoyed it.
More videos like this coming soon.
Sex before marriage is not the will of God. Our opinions or experiences does not matter. God’s word must prevail.
Which of d God's.
Three are many versions and u think ur imported one is d supreme?
@@Oganla3the God whose word makes a difference
@francisadodo9399
In yoruba tradition we have olodumare and his words is supreme and makes a difference. Other cultures have their own Supreme being. The problem with u naija moralistic and poorly educated is the poor education u guys had that made u guys unable to think critically and understand the fundamentals of life.
Sex is biological and.not sin.
It's natural.
Go read sex at dawn by /Christopher Ryan
The woman in white has the most nonsensical points.
I agree,
The people who always make nonsense points are always the loudest on this channel.
Asuwer 😅😅
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There is always that one person who is the loudest yet with empty words 😂
Seriously
Beautiful nonsense
Please don't invite that woman in white again 🤦♂️ it's a shame!!!!! 😅She just dey yarn dust!!!!!
It funny how we all have different world views with people. I find this woman most religious Nigerians castigate AS the best debater. She understands the concept of these sociological experiment. You should watch the foreign shows that started this trend THAT Nigerian producer - the intentionally choose people with different view points to create conflict AND eventually they find a middle ground.
I love that the Christian guy gets biblical. But we as Christians should be able to give an answer without also getting biblical. There is data and research out there that supports his claim. I pray it can be useful to him
Yess i agree with this..he should have known that the people who he is arguing with are not biblical so he would come from the area of morality, statistics and common senses.. him quoting the bible didnt help matters 😂 these people already had their fixes ideologies
I think it’s because the debate started with “is sex before marriage a sin?”
It was very beautiful watching almost everyone in the panel contradict themselves and their values as the questions kept going.
Talk about having Double Standards.
But the Ghanian was consistent
The man who said that he's the student of the bible is the only one that makes sense in this whole video.
This video reveals something really fundamentally wrong with nigerian society, it's so deep that we do not even notice, and it's the ones that have the privilege to travel outside the country or "japa" that notice it. I'm talking about how foreign/imported culture of religion has entered too deep into our society that we have ingrained it in to our social, political and cultural identity, we have taken these "holy books" (written by humans with cognitive biases) as the default in society, hardly would you see nigerians quoting scientific books or research publications and journals, we need to learn tolerance.
The word "sin" is strictly subjective and should not be used as a default way of society. It is well my brothers and sisters
Funny enough some of these developed countries are beginning to see the benefit of commitment sexually to a single partner.
U spoke my mind and am impressed with this . At least somebody among these mumu naija people get sense. They shud go read sex at dawn with Christopher Ryan. U can imagine people in 21 st century living their lives based on books and not on research. Sex is biological and it occurs naturally
Had to scroll too far to see a sensible comment. Everyone else is referencing the Bible. So many Christians don’t even know half of what’s in the Bible, they just cherry pick verses.
The same Bible says it’s actually better to remain celibate and single. I’m sure a Christian reading this right now thinks I’m making this up.
Go read 1 Corinthians 7 v 1 - 8.
Fool
@@marcelxn1chi science is pure facts
Sex before marriage is Sin. A person cannot say they are Christian but break principles of Christianity. Many say they’re believers but believe what they want. You are either hot or cold. Lukewarmness is not acceptable in Christianity. Do not deceive yourself.
Kid ANGELS????😂😂😂😂😂
Thankgod it’s not only me it shock😂
Sin is actually sin may God forgive us all
I have been married for 12 years now i and my husband never had sex before marriage. And i can say he is the best man i ever met in bed in everything. I wish i had waited and kept myself for him.
How did you navigate compatibility and pleasure in the beginning of your marriage
We were shy of each other from the beginning but as time went by everything has been smooth.
@@munzhe_zwavhuAnd with the help of God.
This is beautiful 🤗🤗
I'm here for this.
This is just like jubilee❤️
I guess nothing beats the Nigerian spice on any dish 😂
“Knack your babe, if she gets pregnant marry her”
That’s wild
Mehn mehn mehn. Our generation is in TROUBLE!!! Ahn there's so much work!!!!
WOKE GENERATION INDEED O!!!
Omo dem don change fonication
Sugarcoat am🤣🤣🤣🤣
Here’s the truth about people that say I must test before marriage… you don’t trust God enough to give you a beautiful sex life💀. If you trust him for other things, why won’t you trust that he will also give you someone that you are sexually compatible with. By the way, what is sexual compatibility? People can learn to have sex with each other. You have your wholeeee life with this person to learn.
THANK YOU ‼️‼️‼️it's a lack of faith & trust in God. He knows us, and he created us and knows us better than we know ourselves.
You literally read my mind!!
This is apt 💯. You are on point.
6:42-6:48 that's such a sad statement to make😔😔😔😔😔..it shows how people allow their fleshly desires to control them
That lady on Glasses has my exact facial expressions 😂.. what are they saying 😪😪😪🙆🙆... Hmmm
7:19 But shall we continue in sin that grace may abound? You sef reason am
People don't understand that sex before marriage is not for God, It's for our own good. God commands us to be pure for our own good.
There are so many Physical and spiritual consequences of having sex before marriage. If you are lucky not to see them your children will surely suffer for your sins. The devil uses the sex tool to destroy family and marriages in so many ways.
I know people who got demons of stagnation, anger etc. Just because of sleeping with a particular person.
What kind of sex is for god?
@@DivineMotherGoddess888 you didn't understand, we don't have sex to please God(it's not for God ) but God put up that law for our own good, to save us from diseases, spiritual complications that come due to sleeping with the wrong people, unwanted pregnancies etc.
@@carolinechowe198 you are so badly misinformed. Sex and humans existed THOUSANDS of years before MAN CREATED religion. Marriage also predates religion.
God did NOT ordain sex for marriage., sex and humans were happening prior to man placed “god” into religion. MAN CREATED marriage. And man created marriage for the sole purpose of BUSINESS. Man SOLD WOMEN into marriage to other empires to form allies & expand their wealth. Religion is 100% manmade and was created to CONTROL the masses. And y’all follow blindly just like they knew yall would. Giving them complete control of your minds & lives. This is exactly why the overwhelming vast majority of the African continent is owned by Europeans & the Chinese.
Vibrant topic😂, really enjoy. New subscriber
The born again woman that said something about Kid angels offed me 😂😂😂😂😂
This thing is too short abeg we need more time for them to discuss, it feels like we're missing the best part
We've gotten a lot of comments on this and we'll find a way around it in coming episodes.
Thank you for the suggestion.
15:38 shout out to all the professionals out there.. 🙌🏾🙌🏾
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Adenike (the married woman in white) is spilling nonsense with confidence.