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  • @jubilee
    @jubilee  10 місяців тому +649

    Unreleased prompt only on Patreon: bit.ly/3QNhD5F “A healthy family requires a male and female role model.”

    • @YousufS16
      @YousufS16 10 місяців тому +35

      ☪✝✡ > 🏳‍🌈⚛

    • @ethandollarhide7943
      @ethandollarhide7943 10 місяців тому +3

      Families need parents. Does not matter what gender they are. If you think otherwise, then you don't belong in modern society.

    • @homosexualbiologicalmale--3
      @homosexualbiologicalmale--3 10 місяців тому +14

      ban chastity castration please 🥺🥺🥺

    • @Utsav-ru6mf
      @Utsav-ru6mf 10 місяців тому

      kid yall are in delusion and the sience symbol is way bigger than your rapist gods and prophets@@YousufS16

    • @joshuataylor3550
      @joshuataylor3550 10 місяців тому +99

      Why was everything framed from christianity? Bizarre

  • @anjabrasler4321
    @anjabrasler4321 2 місяці тому +2884

    There is so much therapy needed here it’s not even funny

  • @jessicapogson2645
    @jessicapogson2645 10 місяців тому +37358

    saying you don’t believe in intersex people to an intersex person is craaazy

    • @Dysgenic_
      @Dysgenic_ 10 місяців тому +1684

      It‘s a genetic defect not the norm. Most people have 10 fingers, very few have 11. But to say that humans have 10 or 11 fingers is not correct

    • @CrustyBroBugs
      @CrustyBroBugs 10 місяців тому +2972

      ​@@Dysgenic_yeah but humans can have 11 or 12 fingers and be intersex and there's nothing wrong with that.

    • @simonO712
      @simonO712 10 місяців тому +3881

      ​@@Dysgenic_So? Something being rare doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

    • @Dysgenic_
      @Dysgenic_ 10 місяців тому

      @@CrustyBroBugs There is. It is a sign of developmental instability affecting the whole genome, most likely also the brain.

    • @tryx-i1426
      @tryx-i1426 10 місяців тому +1966

      @@Dysgenic_ Certain eye colors are rare, does that make peopel with that eye color, not exist?

  • @LanaKennedy121
    @LanaKennedy121 10 місяців тому +27553

    This turned out to be way more religious than I was ready for.

    • @user-ks7yk1hv9q
      @user-ks7yk1hv9q 10 місяців тому +2169

      I feel like religion holds a big part in this specific conversation.

    • @abyss1138
      @abyss1138 10 місяців тому +2488

      It’s one of the main reasons why there are “ex-LGBT” people. They “prayed the gay away” 😂

    • @MultiStarchick
      @MultiStarchick 10 місяців тому +775

      I do feel like it had to be a religious conversation but it didn't have to be a mono religious conversation. Christianity isn't the only religion that forbids same sex behaviours and it would have been nice to see them represented.

    • @MsDudette21
      @MsDudette21 10 місяців тому +1

      @@abyss1138 it's the only reason. youll never hear about gay people becoming straight through any other means. cuz it doesnt happen

    • @jameltanderson
      @jameltanderson 10 місяців тому +209

      I can’t stand it

  • @emiliebourgeois9783
    @emiliebourgeois9783 2 місяці тому +1823

    no way shawty said being gay causes earthquakes 💀

    • @fuhgetabatit1051
      @fuhgetabatit1051 2 місяці тому +126

      Apparently I have elemental powers. I wish I knew sooner.

    • @nemesis9514
      @nemesis9514 2 місяці тому

      They're not saying being gay itself causes natural disasters and other things, but sin does. Look what happened after the Olympics. A whole power outage.

    • @Clanofthefoot13
      @Clanofthefoot13 Місяць тому +22

      @@fuhgetabatit1051you are now more powerful than we ever imagined.

    • @Startsgssghshshsh
      @Startsgssghshshsh Місяць тому +10

      I’ve been wheezing at this 😂😂😂

    • @callif.9679
      @callif.9679 Місяць тому +6

      FR like i didnt know I had elemental telekinesis 😭😭

  • @tsukitotaiy0
    @tsukitotaiy0 3 місяці тому +5284

    "i dont believe in intersex people"
    the intersex person literally at his side: 🤨

    • @his4252
      @his4252 2 місяці тому +54

      Actually those are that person’s words. Is there proof that he/she is. Just. Cause you say you are doesn’t make it so.

    • @sthepcorms6747
      @sthepcorms6747 2 місяці тому +234

      ​@@his4252Why would they lie about that

    • @ftentertainment8411
      @ftentertainment8411 2 місяці тому +233

      @@his4252 uh oh someone needs to go back to science class

    • @susangraham1203
      @susangraham1203 2 місяці тому +11

      That is not what he said at all. He said that he didn't believe people could change genders. He wasn't denying that she was intersex.

    • @tsukitotaiy0
      @tsukitotaiy0 2 місяці тому +100

      @@his4252 girl wtf, its literally a condition that exists since forever. why would she lie about it???

  • @Bandie-i5i
    @Bandie-i5i 8 місяців тому +7851

    Not me actively debating with them in my room😭😂

  • @Galaxie_Shipbuilding
    @Galaxie_Shipbuilding 3 місяці тому +3358

    When were yall gonna tell me I could control tectonic plates?

    • @iheartjbgccb
      @iheartjbgccb 3 місяці тому +53

      Ya'll wouldnt even understand

    • @alyssa8658
      @alyssa8658 2 місяці тому +90

      ikr bro im like an avatar now 😂

    • @Galaxie_Shipbuilding
      @Galaxie_Shipbuilding 2 місяці тому +211

      @@alyssa8658 ah yes, the 5 elements, Earth, water, fire, air, and gay

    • @alyssa8658
      @alyssa8658 2 місяці тому +102

      @@Galaxie_Shipbuilding i’ve always loved being a gay bender. i always knew my spirit animal was katara 💀

    • @lukenelson5386
      @lukenelson5386 2 місяці тому +6

      You have geokinesis ,become Cole the Earth Ninja

  • @manny-pm7rw
    @manny-pm7rw 2 місяці тому +1618

    “it’s not up to me to decide who i am” told me everything i needed to know

    • @redonion64
      @redonion64 2 місяці тому

      Sounds like you get yours from fox news ​@meowzr81

    • @aaronropers-huilman660
      @aaronropers-huilman660 Місяць тому

      ​@UnfilteredLiberty huh? How did we get from a statement about self expression to a news network?

    • @eavesdropswhispers2598
      @eavesdropswhispers2598 Місяць тому +5

      It’s called arrogance I think. Or make believe. Imposter syndrome, affirmations. It has many words I guess, but you get it. You are not your profession, you are not your achievements, you are not who your friends or family see you as, you are not even who you think you are. It’s one of the main things of your early life, figuring that out. Who am I? And saying you have done so is arrogant or at the very least delusional.

    • @Wilkins325
      @Wilkins325 Місяць тому +12

      Self-worship is of the evil one.

    • @Jreaddy
      @Jreaddy Місяць тому +2

      Wait? So they are choosing to be homosexual?

  • @-blotches-3365
    @-blotches-3365 3 місяці тому +3117

    I am SO GLAD they had an intersex person be part of this conversation. We desperately need to give intersex people a seat at the table with things like this, I feel like I never see intersex people having a chance to express themselves and talk about their experience

    • @WEGEEKZBOI
      @WEGEEKZBOI 2 місяці тому +53

      I think we barely see them in these conversations because they are so few and in between. They're like an anomaly within an anomaly.

    • @l_Tea
      @l_Tea 2 місяці тому +1

      Agreed! The person in orange is amazing!

    • @Lilipad08
      @Lilipad08 2 місяці тому +22

      @@WEGEEKZBOI actually it's much more common than you think, about 1 in 100 people born have some sort of defect affecting their chromosomes or reproductive systems.

    • @-AlienBoy-
      @-AlienBoy- 2 місяці тому +10

      As an intersex and aroace person, barely anybody talks about either of those things when talking about lgbt topics. I’m glad to see something at least mentioned

    • @char6249
      @char6249 2 місяці тому

      @@WEGEEKZBOI Intersex people are about as many as red hair. So its much more common than what we usually think

  • @gbizdiaz3673
    @gbizdiaz3673 6 місяців тому +10367

    Not my gay thoughts shifting the tectonic plates

  • @9TheMiddleMan9
    @9TheMiddleMan9 10 місяців тому +25944

    We're 30 seconds in and we're talking about Gay earthquakes... this gon be gud...

    • @MarkVank
      @MarkVank 10 місяців тому +1315

      Thought you were joking, not even gonna watch the vid💀💀

    • @michaelc.5809
      @michaelc.5809 10 місяців тому +787

      I was thrown for a loop with that intro 😭

    • @itsnatemate7697
      @itsnatemate7697 10 місяців тому +1055

      I KNEW gays had super powers!!

    • @rollitupmars
      @rollitupmars 10 місяців тому +614

      He lost me because wtf is he talking about

    • @itsnatemate7697
      @itsnatemate7697 10 місяців тому +574

      @@rollitupmarsHe doesn’t know what he’s talking about. He even said “XX that is male” and someone had to correct him and say “no that’s female” 😂

  • @jaydenjamerson5382
    @jaydenjamerson5382 2 місяці тому +616

    abigail and gilbert were sooooo tired of samuel and rashad 😭💀

    • @normpe2851
      @normpe2851 Місяць тому +14

      Can you blame them?

    • @Clover1904
      @Clover1904 29 днів тому +9

      ​@@normpe2851 nope

  • @redchan2571
    @redchan2571 10 місяців тому +12372

    You can have a productive discussion with people that have different opinions, but you cannot have a productive discussion with people who believe in a different set of facts.

    • @drakenhwa
      @drakenhwa 10 місяців тому +541

      so true omg you put that concept into words so well 😭

    • @cherrysoda2219
      @cherrysoda2219 10 місяців тому +653

      But they aren’t discussing facts, they are discussing beliefs. Even if they were discussing differing sets of facts it can still lead to a productive debate. People have debates all the time on different sets of facts, such as democrats and republicans. They both go off of different facts which support their viewpoints, although yes subjective opinions intertwine with their view points, but at the end of the day being bias is inherently apart of being human.

    • @naysha323
      @naysha323 10 місяців тому +23

      THIS!!

    • @naysha323
      @naysha323 10 місяців тому +16

      @@cherrysoda2219 💀

    • @cherrysoda2219
      @cherrysoda2219 10 місяців тому +72

      Whether a debate revolves around opinions or differing facts it is very much possible to have a productive debate either way, people have debates like this all the time lol….

  • @Yahmuddacapiche
    @Yahmuddacapiche 10 місяців тому +8868

    I wish jubilee would do cat people vs. dog people. I think they think it isn’t serious enough but I think it would be their most popular video

  • @Aestheticmovieclips
    @Aestheticmovieclips 9 місяців тому +4366

    The "XX that is male" and the " no that's female" part got me LMAO 😅😅😅😅😅

    • @ruefriend
      @ruefriend 9 місяців тому +355

      SAMEEE like bro came in here not knowing the only fact I retained from freshman year biology 😭

    • @hooman9554
      @hooman9554 9 місяців тому +149

      me too bro 💀 and he sounded so confident about it too like it was some gotcha moment

    • @acr8615
      @acr8615 9 місяців тому +36

      Only males have the Y Chromosome, not females.

    • @Lavasquid7800
      @Lavasquid7800 9 місяців тому +52

      XY is male and XX is female

    • @hooman9554
      @hooman9554 9 місяців тому +48

      it's around 11:14 if anyone wants the timestamp btw

  • @marii-iq2ik
    @marii-iq2ik Місяць тому +560

    ain’t no way he thought the “+” in LGBTQIA+ meant experimentation with animals??? 😭😭😭 yeoooo

    • @Jaee-kb7wj
      @Jaee-kb7wj Місяць тому +39

      These people think anything and it’s so harmful 😭

    • @bree7969
      @bree7969 Місяць тому +4

      It does though

    • @Jaee-kb7wj
      @Jaee-kb7wj Місяць тому +33

      @@bree7969the strong opinion n u don’t know anything is crazy. We don’t claim anything n everything 🤦🏽 the hate for the lgbt is crazy asf

    • @bree7969
      @bree7969 Місяць тому

      @@Jaee-kb7wj nobody hate yall as much as yall hate yall self’s how here being reckless on the name of liberation and freedom… is crazy!

    • @KimberlyOneLove
      @KimberlyOneLove Місяць тому +3

      Well they keep adding letters who knows? I mean a few decades ago we didn't even know you don't have to be male or female in a few more years you may not have to be human

  • @snailslime7
    @snailslime7 8 місяців тому +5994

    It’s honestly so wild to say that the first place you ever truly felt accepted was at a pride event, to then immediately say they cause earthquakes 💀

    • @helloxonsfan
      @helloxonsfan 8 місяців тому +2

      A Gay earthquake sounds pretty cool...!!! They're measured by degrees of twerking...!!! (LOL) 🤣

    • @ChemistTea
      @ChemistTea 8 місяців тому +216

      That's normal in religious people. Some Christians perceive that as logical.

    • @jonathanpagan4465
      @jonathanpagan4465 8 місяців тому +75

      According to the Bible sin in general causes calamities. Just read revelation, we are in for a rude awakening, I’m guessing soon rather than later

    • @snailslime7
      @snailslime7 8 місяців тому +86

      @@ChemistTea I’m aware, it seems the opposite of logical to me. I would never want to live with that mindset. It sounds exhausting

    • @djk5v
      @djk5v 8 місяців тому +34

      The cognitive dissonance is strong with this one.

  • @peepeepro
    @peepeepro 9 місяців тому +3379

    Jubilee is one of the only shows that make me genuinely start tweaking

    • @seekerandthinker
      @seekerandthinker 8 місяців тому +172

      It is midnight here and I thought you say "Jubilee is one of the only shows that make me genuinely start twerking" 😭😭😭

    • @ILoveCats69875
      @ILoveCats69875 8 місяців тому +136

      Fr bro some of these ppls beliefs are sooo out there, like how pride festivals start earthquakes 😭

    • @seekerandthinker
      @seekerandthinker 8 місяців тому

      @@ILoveCats69875 if gay sex really cause earthquake, a country should be proud of it, they will be the world's deadliest weapon. Just give them a mission, vacation to the enemy nation, and have the WILDEST sex ever happen in human history at the target location.

    • @Feniel_
      @Feniel_ 8 місяців тому +6

      No fr bruh 😭

    • @nunii.
      @nunii. 8 місяців тому +10

      @@ILoveCats69875 this just goes to show you how lost ppl are

  • @atmosphericentry0
    @atmosphericentry0 10 місяців тому +15430

    A gay person simply existing being the cause of earthquakes and global pandemics is so outlandishly hilarious that only a religious person could come up with.

    • @YousufS16
      @YousufS16 10 місяців тому +442

      Not as hilarious as thinking something came from nothing

    • @tgr5312
      @tgr5312 10 місяців тому

      Not really I've heard a lot of liberals come up with way worse stuff. From magic rocks to star formations.

    • @Junior-zf7yy
      @Junior-zf7yy 10 місяців тому +935

      @@YousufS16I’m wondering who ever claimed something came from nothing. Also wondering why you think a magical papa just decided to create the world for no reason. Why couldn’t it be a magical all knowing giant rat?

    • @rollitupmars
      @rollitupmars 10 місяців тому +652

      @ville__How? Is being straight a choice?? Why would I chose to be LBGTQ+ with all of the hate and constant discrimination that we face as a community?

    • @oznerolnavi3772
      @oznerolnavi3772 10 місяців тому +198

      @@YousufS16bro could lose an argument against himself

  • @cemendip
    @cemendip Місяць тому +290

    the way that the ex-lgbtqia+ people are only quoting the bible and the lgbtqia+ people are discussing the questions that are asked. told me everything i needed to know.

    • @jsjourney3295
      @jsjourney3295 Місяць тому +16

      Yea that the truth is in the Bible and feelings cause confusion 😂.. I got that same message 🎉

    • @michaelcastori3243
      @michaelcastori3243 27 днів тому +1

      @@jsjourney3295best answer in these comments 🙏🙏

    • @Justaguythatcameby
      @Justaguythatcameby 11 днів тому +4

      ​@@jsjourney3295 I have seen a lot more religious people denying truths like dinosaurs, the earth being round and vaccines working

    • @SaraHeartlin
      @SaraHeartlin 2 дні тому

      ​@@jsjourney3295 that the Bible infects your brain and suppresses your freedom of speech and thought? YES

  • @rinas6550
    @rinas6550 10 місяців тому +10980

    Telling Abigail that you disregard her existence is INSANE 😂

    • @AbigailBeverlyHillz
      @AbigailBeverlyHillz 10 місяців тому +974

      My bombastic side eye every time he spoke 😂

    • @Superbatmanbro
      @Superbatmanbro 10 місяців тому +18

      ​@@AbigailBeverlyHillz😅😅

    • @suoeex
      @suoeex 10 місяців тому +414

      @ville__ so your saying you like men but your choosing to like women?

    • @rinas6550
      @rinas6550 10 місяців тому +195

      @ville__she’s not even gay?……

    • @MaeveBowral
      @MaeveBowral 10 місяців тому +129

      @ville__ Lol we loved our choice...... waste your negative energy elsewhere🤦🏾‍♀🤦🏾‍♀🤦‍♀🤦‍♀

  • @aflameinthevoid8047
    @aflameinthevoid8047 10 місяців тому +13639

    This ended up being an hourlong Christian theological discussion. I feel badly for Abby as the only non-Christian panelist

    • @AbigailBeverlyHillz
      @AbigailBeverlyHillz 10 місяців тому +1573

      It was ROUGH lmao

    • @mf8125
      @mf8125 10 місяців тому +1031

      @@AbigailBeverlyHillzI would've had to say, can we stop making this about Christianity?! Lol

    • @rachelt4792
      @rachelt4792 10 місяців тому +544

      Yeah, because that’s the only reason people are against the LGBT+ community. Which is why including religious people from the LGBT+ community is perfect for this conversation.

    • @lailaandu3165
      @lailaandu3165 10 місяців тому +58

      wasnt that the point of the episode?

    • @kaylanicole5126
      @kaylanicole5126 10 місяців тому +249

      @@rachelt4792I mean it’s not the only reason but definitely the primary one. Still if I was that girl I would’ve been like can we not make everything about Christianity because you can’t make everything about something that not everyone follows. There’s nothing confirmed about it so to make everything you do about it is kinda scary to be honest

  • @spencedbuddy6343
    @spencedbuddy6343 10 місяців тому +1080

    "I don't see any intersex" setting next to an intersex person. 10/10

    • @AbigailBeverlyHillz
      @AbigailBeverlyHillz 10 місяців тому +153

      Helen Keller’s spirit possessed Rashad every time I spoke…because he became blind and deaf every time I spoke.

    • @Im-Ekko
      @Im-Ekko 10 місяців тому +11

      ​@@AbigailBeverlyHillz😂😂

    • @Kingofthenet2
      @Kingofthenet2 10 місяців тому +3

      @@AbigailBeverlyHillz🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @unpopularopinionpodcast24
      @unpopularopinionpodcast24 10 місяців тому +7

      How do we really know? Because she said it? I am probably wrong but I think Abby is a transwoman cosplaying

    • @unpopularopinionpodcast24
      @unpopularopinionpodcast24 10 місяців тому +6

      @@AbigailBeverlyHillzyou are a hypocrite. You rolled your eyes and discredited anything he said religious.

  • @TashaJohnson-o3o
    @TashaJohnson-o3o 2 місяці тому +159

    Rodereck tryna cap that gayness hunny, it's literally spilling out of him lol

  • @anonymous-pe5dz
    @anonymous-pe5dz 10 місяців тому +7360

    “He’s given me strength to overcome my desires of falling into homosexuality again” so he’s basically admitting that you can’t chose your sexuality 😭

    • @loveisblue5297
      @loveisblue5297 10 місяців тому +492

      The way this is even up for debate..

    • @BlueberrySummertime
      @BlueberrySummertime 10 місяців тому +70

      It’s ALL up for debate

    • @TinaMay-rr6xi
      @TinaMay-rr6xi 10 місяців тому +293

      He is saying you can choose not to act on it

    • @ethandollarhide7943
      @ethandollarhide7943 10 місяців тому +426

      @@TinaMay-rr6xi He's also basically admitting that you can choose to not act on Heterosexuality, but nobody wants to talk about that because Heterosexuality is the " Norm" and you can't discriminate against the " Norm"

    • @awoooga5857
      @awoooga5857 10 місяців тому +426

      ​@ville__acting on it is a choice yes, but being gay isn't and that's the point. These people are forcing themselves to not be gay and telling other people that they should be like them 2.

  • @Mesharae
    @Mesharae 10 місяців тому +8822

    I felt so heartbroken for Abigail because how dare rashad try to tell her that her LITERAL existence isn’t real?! She is literally sitting there telling you she was BORN intersex. Like wtf

    • @Spyros_SP
      @Spyros_SP 10 місяців тому

      There's no such thing as intersex, she is a female, she has XX chromosomes, and she has genital deformities.

    • @tibenpolo
      @tibenpolo 10 місяців тому +374

      @@IAmTheTruth139ignorance is real

    • @jesseshepherd5522
      @jesseshepherd5522 10 місяців тому

      The word truth is overused and in this case incorrectly used.
      YouAreTheLiar666@@IAmTheTruth139

    • @jhedjoardumago7691
      @jhedjoardumago7691 10 місяців тому +2

      Abigail has an XX chromosome with a defect. So she is female, with a defect. Just like any person who had a genetic defect. There is no person who is both XX and XY.

    • @florjean965
      @florjean965 10 місяців тому +100

      @@IAmTheTruth139 Clearly you're not educated whatsoever and posted some myopic comment.

  • @spaghettibird5135
    @spaghettibird5135 10 місяців тому +4964

    So they’re still gay, they just don’t act on it anymore. So they’re just celibate. How does that make them not gay anymore?

    • @a.b.2405
      @a.b.2405 10 місяців тому +665

      Exactly what I was thinking! They’re still gay!

    • @michaelplauche9901
      @michaelplauche9901 10 місяців тому +131

      You can change your feelings. That’s what lgbtq is, personal feelings. They will have Hetero marriages in the future and will be fulfilling god’s plan

    • @ashtonb7931
      @ashtonb7931 10 місяців тому +673

      @@michaelplauche9901lgbtq is something you cannot change…😭😭😭 they can believe they’re changed if they’d like, but they’re still gay and they need to accept that and understand it’s okay.

    • @michaelplauche9901
      @michaelplauche9901 10 місяців тому

      @@ashtonb7931 homosexuality isn’t genetics, it’s a feeling. You can change your feelings

    • @mayasanders1046
      @mayasanders1046 10 місяців тому +49

      ​@@ashtonb7931Right?!

  • @Lextrap42
    @Lextrap42 2 місяці тому +384

    Gray t-shirt needs to learn how to have uncomfortable conversations without preaching at people. I can tell he was repeating rhetoric that was spewed at him rather than thinking for himself.

    • @raiderson1000
      @raiderson1000 Місяць тому +35

      That's brainwashed at level maximum. It's just sad to a level I will never comprehend.

    • @ree4214
      @ree4214 Місяць тому +17

      Yet no one was able to articulate a response that disproves what he said.

    • @annabellakelleman8253
      @annabellakelleman8253 Місяць тому +21

      @@ree4214I can, 12:22 he deadass says he doesn’t see intersex yet is sitting next to a person who was born intersex w both features. so what gender was she supposed to be? he’s brainwashed

    • @ree4214
      @ree4214 Місяць тому +4

      @@annabellakelleman8253 What percentage of lgbt+ are intersex? AND that’s not even what he was talking about.

    • @earth2fatima578
      @earth2fatima578 Місяць тому +3

      @@ree4214So about 5.6 million people in the US are intersex

  • @marrr2563
    @marrr2563 6 місяців тому +4007

    ngl, as a straight religious person (muslim), this was still traumatizing, like bro literally looked at her and announced that he doesn't believe in intersex people.

    • @khaioberlin
      @khaioberlin 5 місяців тому +61

      literally???

    • @ParisPanteli-et1uq
      @ParisPanteli-et1uq 5 місяців тому +373

      ok but please tell me tho that i'm not the olnly that got mad that at they they used religion to justify their hate

    • @parham1023
      @parham1023 5 місяців тому

      ​@ParisPanteli-et1uq religion is technically hate. Not by text, but by act.
      Christians love to hate. Not all of them, of course.

    • @clairechen3524
      @clairechen3524 5 місяців тому +9

      thats what be belives tho

    • @Muhluri
      @Muhluri 5 місяців тому +1

      ​@@ParisPanteli-et1uqcuz that's the only place that really promotes this anti-queer rhetoric.
      I know I personally wouldn't have become a homophobe had it not been for the religion

  • @michealdotcom
    @michealdotcom 10 місяців тому +5920

    It is insane how this debate turned into a Christian centered discussion instead of a LGBTQIA+ middle ground in the matter of the first 30 seconds. Props to Abigail for staying strong & still respecting every panelist while being disregarded for her identity.

    • @OrganicOrc
      @OrganicOrc 10 місяців тому +348

      Yeah, I really wish they'd make sure to have at least a few non-religious people. Abigail clearly being the only person not rooted in religion had her automatically backed into a corner.

    • @RonLarhz
      @RonLarhz 10 місяців тому +6

      ikr.

    • @cmac7547
      @cmac7547 10 місяців тому

      I think it's hard to find people who are Anti-LGBT and it has nothing to do with religion
      And I think the only way for there to be common ground was to have religious lgbtq that way they could have a meeting point
      It would honestly be the only way those Anti-LGBTQ folk would be able to have a leg to stand on
      The moment they took Christianity out it would've been a total bashing and I'm pretty sure those anti-LGBTQ folk would've immediately felt disrepect and and attacked and then they would play victim and it would look bad overall

    • @laura8512
      @laura8512 10 місяців тому +72

      The conversation was about ex-gay and ex-lgbt versus LGBTQ and the explanation of being “ex” was because of their faith not on your own. So that is why it was surrounded by biblical statements.

    • @beautifully_scarred_lea
      @beautifully_scarred_lea 10 місяців тому +20

      Because it's what that community rebels against. They rebel against religion and how you are supposed to live. That's just not inclusive to Christianity. It's all religions that have say homosexuality is a sin

  • @michaellampkin5585
    @michaellampkin5585 5 місяців тому +3332

    That boy is fighting his demons and y’all know who I’m talking about

    • @RheSiobhan
      @RheSiobhan 5 місяців тому +310

      😂 This is hilarious to me, because I was thinking the exact same thing. I'm interested to see how he is in 20 years

    • @Sign_from_God
      @Sign_from_God 5 місяців тому +2

      Who?

    • @quuaackyy
      @quuaackyy 5 місяців тому +6

      yeah...

    • @laincake
      @laincake 5 місяців тому +98

      @@Sign_from_Godguy in gray tank top i believe

    • @yarioi
      @yarioi 5 місяців тому

      He is making a fool out of himself, even the Christian’s are like pls stfu

  • @fade22223
    @fade22223 2 місяці тому +125

    Oh, so this is what achieving absolutely nothing looks like.

    • @Oru328
      @Oru328 Місяць тому +3

      "Well lets defer that question to what some ignorant men from two thousand years ago claimed my sky daddy said about it"

    • @Nhggvbhgfcvnjyfcvhfdc
      @Nhggvbhgfcvnjyfcvhfdc 16 днів тому

      what happens when you allow religious extremists into these conversations. They are all by definition BIGOTS

    • @Iceheartedbastard7
      @Iceheartedbastard7 9 днів тому

      @@Oru328and the proof it’s all true is because we say so😂

    • @DrWillowDTV1987
      @DrWillowDTV1987 5 днів тому

      Ah yes yes

  • @vgycgy
    @vgycgy 10 місяців тому +3629

    Abigail’s voice is SOOOO important in this conversation, it’s like she said we HARDLY ever hear from intersex ppl.

    • @yosaifgrossman2476
      @yosaifgrossman2476 10 місяців тому +3

      I can't tell if she was pro LGBT or not

    • @KotoneShiomi333
      @KotoneShiomi333 10 місяців тому +21

      @@yosaifgrossman2476 wdym

    • @czhni
      @czhni 10 місяців тому +56

      I would have liked to see an asexual person in this discussion

    • @QuonwithaO
      @QuonwithaO 10 місяців тому +45

      Not really transgenderism as we know it today and intersexuality are not the same and aren't related in any way so her experience really adds nothing to this conversation

    • @joegame4576
      @joegame4576 10 місяців тому +12

      but why is it important though? what important distinction does intersex bring to this discussion?

  • @thadlincolnii7398
    @thadlincolnii7398 6 місяців тому +5381

    All of the exLgbt admitted they still have the desire. They just dont act on it. Which means thier orientation did not change.

    • @oluwatoniodetayo3141
      @oluwatoniodetayo3141 6 місяців тому +231

      Are all desires natural. Should they be acted on?

    • @historysyourbestfriend5500
      @historysyourbestfriend5500 6 місяців тому +153

      @@oluwatoniodetayo3141what do you suppose is reason for why homosexuality shouldn’t be something a person can act on then?

    • @epicgamer5113
      @epicgamer5113 6 місяців тому +49

      Are you sure about that? 18:04

    • @oluwatoniodetayo3141
      @oluwatoniodetayo3141 6 місяців тому +36

      @@historysyourbestfriend5500
      One thing to look out for is the fruits of the desire. Evaluate yourself when you abstain.
      Thinking about it while not acting on it, is not abstaining. That's a tough one to learn.

    • @historysyourbestfriend5500
      @historysyourbestfriend5500 6 місяців тому +34

      @@oluwatoniodetayo3141 how does that answer my question…

  • @ujjainimukherjee4328
    @ujjainimukherjee4328 3 місяці тому +2374

    "XX..that is male."
    Bro failed science at school level

    • @DavidSavelio
      @DavidSavelio 3 місяці тому +23

      Still the message stands. Can't trip yourself

    • @Destyne-t9b
      @Destyne-t9b 3 місяці тому +47

      it was a question he didnt say that ut was he asked her "XX is male?" not "XX is male"

    • @kml7259
      @kml7259 3 місяці тому +26

      He confused the chromosome symbols things like that happens no biggie

    • @thisisforvids
      @thisisforvids 3 місяці тому +21

      @@kml7259 just like how he confused his biases with empirical evidence

    • @kml7259
      @kml7259 3 місяці тому

      @@thisisforvids seems to be you who is the bigot who won’t respect and tolerate different opinions and views.

  • @laram.ferreira
    @laram.ferreira 2 місяці тому +250

    i just really hope that dude fights his demons before his child is born. and i hope he learns how to love his future child, whoever they choose to be.

    • @JhozetteAnn
      @JhozetteAnn Місяць тому +2

      THIS!!

    • @michaelplauche9901
      @michaelplauche9901 Місяць тому

      Which dude are you talking about?

    • @jsjourney3295
      @jsjourney3295 Місяць тому +10

      Rashad will have a fabulous relationship with his child because he won’t speak lies and feelings .. but true love which is a selfless love … NO GREATER LOVE THAN THIS, that one lay down his life for a friend !
      Him giving up his lifestyle and choosing to love his family over his desires is so beautiful ❤ why can’t you guys see that?

    • @totallynotimari
      @totallynotimari Місяць тому +3

      @@jsjourney3295 LMFAOOOOOOOOO.

    • @normpe2851
      @normpe2851 Місяць тому +8

      ​@@jsjourney3295
      Nah, the kid is gonna come out with trauma
      Specially if they are LGBTQIA+

  • @BecksaViolet
    @BecksaViolet 10 місяців тому +3338

    the nerve of him to refer to abigail as his friend after calling her demonic and denying her existence is crazzzzy

    • @theguywhoisaustralian1465
      @theguywhoisaustralian1465 10 місяців тому +417

      "Hate the sin love the sinner" is a bunch of patronising crap

    • @BecksaViolet
      @BecksaViolet 10 місяців тому +31

      @@theguywhoisaustralian1465 real

    • @catscats4427
      @catscats4427 10 місяців тому +60

      @@theguywhoisaustralian1465lol I would’ve said back “well this sinner doesn’t love you”

    • @michaeljohndadd545
      @michaeljohndadd545 10 місяців тому +20

      ​@@theguywhoisaustralian1465can't accept the truth?

    • @theguywhoisaustralian1465
      @theguywhoisaustralian1465 10 місяців тому +1

      @michaeljohndadd545 The truth of what? That organised religion has become a rich and evil tax free haven of an excuse to preach hate under the guise of salvation, while also committing most of the sins they claim to be against and controlling their brainwashed masses?
      That truth?

  • @desi1844
    @desi1844 4 місяці тому +2913

    Girl said she felt the Holy Spirit whilst kissing another girl!😂😂
    Even for a non Christian that’s so wild.

    • @SaggyPig
      @SaggyPig 4 місяці тому +158

      She kept referrinv to her heart and how she felt. All I could think of is Jeremiah 17:9-10

    • @AshtonStands4Awesome
      @AshtonStands4Awesome 3 місяці тому +224

      It is wild, it's very clear she's never actually read the Bible.

    • @DerrickHistory
      @DerrickHistory 3 місяці тому +89

      Who are you to denounce anyone's spiritual revelation?

    • @desi1844
      @desi1844 3 місяці тому +116

      @@DerrickHistory Satan is that you?👀

    • @DerrickHistory
      @DerrickHistory 3 місяці тому +65

      @@desi1844 sure, or whatever ridiculous boogeyman you prefer.

  • @lemonheadalisa5402
    @lemonheadalisa5402 10 місяців тому +3081

    I loved how Gilbert spoke up for Abigail IMMEDIATELY. he didn’t let that slide for even one second and i respect that so much and he came with his facts i loved that

    • @GilbertGTV
      @GilbertGTV 10 місяців тому +419

      Thank you so much!! I have been bullied with the Bible before I learned it inside and out for myself. I wasn’t going to allow someone else to be abused.

    • @nate2759
      @nate2759 10 місяців тому

      Abigail shouldn’t of even been there, intersex shouldn’t even be apart of the LGB community and neither should trans because one should never mix biology and sexuality that is what’s created so much craziness within the community for starters.

    • @ohnosponolios4126
      @ohnosponolios4126 10 місяців тому

      stop. just stop. your premise is incorrect to begin with, it has always been lgbT. Literally since the beginning. Why? because the people that want trans people dead also want LGB people dead, hate all of us the same, and see no difference between us. Trying to make it "LGB" just creates an unnecessary wedge in a community that has already progressed along side eachother in this society @@nate2759

    • @Chocokitty57
      @Chocokitty57 10 місяців тому +96

      @@GilbertGTVyou’re fuc*ing amazing. I would have done the same and I was like YESSSS FREAKING TELL THEM. The disrespect

    • @GilbertGTV
      @GilbertGTV 10 місяців тому +46

      @@Chocokitty57Thank you, love!! 🙏🏼❤️

  • @MilkByCow
    @MilkByCow Місяць тому +66

    Former LGBT? Yeah okay, and I’m formerly Asian.

    • @jonnycola86
      @jonnycola86 Місяць тому +3

      Exactly, it's the same logic.

    • @jadap43
      @jadap43 10 годин тому

      LMAOOOOO

  • @sicomode7436
    @sicomode7436 7 місяців тому +2287

    “I don’t see intersex” is the same as “I don’t see skin color” LMFAO. Like it’s still there 💀

    • @SIAN_1
      @SIAN_1 7 місяців тому +79

      It was not in the same context. "I don't see skin colour" means I treat you the same as white, black, hispanic person.
      "I don't see intersex" in that context ment he don't acknowledge her being intersex, because he believes there are only men and women. Which is the complete opposite of "I don't see skin colour"

    • @sicomode7436
      @sicomode7436 7 місяців тому +50

      @@SIAN_1 I don’t see skin color seems like an ok statement but it’s subtly racist. It’s diminishing the fact that their skin color IS different. It reminds me of the way he’s diminishing her gender because he doesn’t believe in intersex. Doesn’t change the fact that she physically is.

    • @kickroxanne
      @kickroxanne 6 місяців тому +16

      That’s definitely not the same lol.

    • @sicomode7436
      @sicomode7436 6 місяців тому +8

      @@kickroxanne you have to look at the underlying commonalities. If you think about it, definitely is the same lmfao. Stating you don’t see a certain characteristic of a person because of your beliefs is just weird and nobody wants to hear it.

    • @sicomode7436
      @sicomode7436 6 місяців тому +2

      @@kickroxanne I’m not saying he said it in the same context. I’m saying both statements are just as weird as eachother if that makes more sense LOL.

  • @futureactor132
    @futureactor132 10 місяців тому +3247

    Can we seriously have a conversation that isn't about "gay is wrong because religion"

    • @annabelle.rose.slay.
      @annabelle.rose.slay. 10 місяців тому +53

      frrr

    • @whalium889
      @whalium889 10 місяців тому +98

      I read a comment Gilbert made in the comment section that said ex-gays are mainly religious because it is based in religion and it’s not really a secular concept. Im surprised by that though and find it hard to believe. You’re telling me that there isn’t someone who was like I’m ex-gay cuz I wanted kids and someone to have the kids with and to raise them with ???

    • @SillyRoneo
      @SillyRoneo 10 місяців тому +210

      It is tiring to have religion the main subject

    • @DA-xu1du
      @DA-xu1du 10 місяців тому +213

      well that’s bcos there are no secular arguments against homosexuality

    • @sage1k910
      @sage1k910 10 місяців тому +2

      They literally cannot. How many atheist homophobes/ex lgbt do you know?…. Religion is literally the only argument against homosexuality.

  • @DarkAngel2512
    @DarkAngel2512 10 місяців тому +2905

    "Being gay causes earthquakes". 😂 Americans are a diff breed.

    • @fresh-eggs
      @fresh-eggs 10 місяців тому +38

      Haha so true.

    • @MaidenMacabre
      @MaidenMacabre 10 місяців тому +70

      That SENT me

    • @ThreeLittleBirdsssss
      @ThreeLittleBirdsssss 10 місяців тому +114

      The way they all shook their head in aggreement took me tf out

    • @koalasaw
      @koalasaw 10 місяців тому +181

      This hurt me as a geologist lol. Im not against religion but I cant stand religious people who dismiss thousands of years of science.

    • @IAmTheTruth139
      @IAmTheTruth139 10 місяців тому

      God’s wrath is real, and western society will turn out to be like Sodom and Gomorrah unless something is done to combat lgbt evil degeneracy.

  • @JasonM-u7j
    @JasonM-u7j Місяць тому +23

    17:48 He's "ex gay" and married today wow I feel bad for his wife. Indeed so much therapy needed here.

    • @ripjrumih
      @ripjrumih 21 день тому +4

      yess like little does she know he used to dress as a girl

    • @emmanuelyeboah3509
      @emmanuelyeboah3509 7 годин тому

      ​@ripjrumih if he can sit here and talk about it, then she already knows

  • @Random-sk6hm
    @Random-sk6hm 10 місяців тому +4461

    As a gay person I can confirm we create earthquakes and global pandemics for fun

    • @niculaelaurentiu1201
      @niculaelaurentiu1201 10 місяців тому +68

      😂

    • @howardphung281
      @howardphung281 10 місяців тому +212

      They are scared of your power.

    • @cjisvegan
      @cjisvegan 10 місяців тому +207

      Was hoping I'd find this comment lol. Sorry for all the hurricanes and tornados, it was just me being trans

    • @karabosebowa9836
      @karabosebowa9836 10 місяців тому +25

      Girl…😂😂😂😂

    • @jayleneatmon26
      @jayleneatmon26 10 місяців тому +19

      😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @success3443
    @success3443 10 місяців тому +3903

    Jubilee always be coming up with the wildest of topics

    • @YousufS16
      @YousufS16 10 місяців тому +39

      ☪✝✡ > 🏳‍🌈⚛

    • @ShadowIsABaby
      @ShadowIsABaby 10 місяців тому

      @ville__It's really not. These people are either closeted again or were never gay to begin with.

    • @prodELOKX
      @prodELOKX 10 місяців тому +13

      @ville__only if ur a bisexual

    • @ottoask9151
      @ottoask9151 10 місяців тому +66

      @@YousufS16 ew

    • @ottoask9151
      @ottoask9151 10 місяців тому +51

      @ville__ ew

  • @lydia.cobain
    @lydia.cobain 10 місяців тому +859

    I would love a recheck of this group 5 years from now.

    • @moniqueengleman873
      @moniqueengleman873 10 місяців тому +74

      Me too. I don't think this is going to age well.
      The crutches that people use to get by is interesting.

    • @genesisburns883
      @genesisburns883 10 місяців тому +2

      Frfr

    • @pran_so_cool143
      @pran_so_cool143 10 місяців тому +12

      this comment should be pinned haha

    • @tinker6362
      @tinker6362 10 місяців тому +27

      Absolutely! Would be especially interesting seeing how things pan out with Rashaad.

    • @rondaniels985
      @rondaniels985 10 місяців тому +2

      Seriously

  • @EricAdshead-b3l
    @EricAdshead-b3l 2 місяці тому +313

    Sexuality is not a choice. Period. These men coming on here saying they no longer have attraction towards men is just nonsense.

    • @TheyIuvIiv
      @TheyIuvIiv 2 місяці тому +28

      Fr. You don’t choose whether your attracted to whatever, you just are. You can’t be an ex lgbtq member by technicality..

    • @christiangreene5839
      @christiangreene5839 2 місяці тому +20

      Sin is a choice and feeding your flesh-ful desires is a sin

    • @nswreve
      @nswreve 2 місяці тому +18

      ​@@christiangreene5839way to talk about something completely unrelated to the previous comments lol

    • @hahah912
      @hahah912 2 місяці тому

      for real

    • @NicoleRivera-c7t
      @NicoleRivera-c7t 2 місяці тому

      Or they're both bisexual

  • @joshualeroy8
    @joshualeroy8 8 місяців тому +4016

    Would have loved a non religious conversation about this

    • @Mac-ff3ll
      @Mac-ff3ll 7 місяців тому +358

      You can only be an ex gay if you’re religious…

    • @higuchistan
      @higuchistan 7 місяців тому +82

      No?? I have an ex gay atheist friend

    • @samurai_zee4850
      @samurai_zee4850 7 місяців тому +112

      It’s possible, but a lot of ex-lgbtq in general have religious reasons or healing journey reasons 🤷🏾‍♀️ it’s not an issue to talk about it. It’s not like they’re forcing them to do something they don’t want to do. They are just sharing THEIR experiences. ❤

    • @riumainu2768
      @riumainu2768 7 місяців тому +10

      ​@@Mac-ff3llirrational. Likes change. Can happen.

    • @GG-tk8gt
      @GG-tk8gt 7 місяців тому +55

      ​@@Mac-ff3llI don't think that's true. You can be ex-gay due to societies' pressures and other environmental factors. Being gay was a crime in the Soviet Union even though the Soviet Union encouraged atheism for a great majority of its population.

  • @mikepictor
    @mikepictor 10 місяців тому +2807

    I am so incredibly grateful to Abigail being so confident and open to bring her story to us the viewers. We hear so little about the lived realisties of intersex people, and I am grateful to learn more about it.

    • @AbigailBeverlyHillz
      @AbigailBeverlyHillz 10 місяців тому +136

      Thank you so much 🥺❤️

    • @szasbaddest1
      @szasbaddest1 10 місяців тому +28

      @@AbigailBeverlyHillz I love your drag, and I LOVED YOU ON THIS EPISODE. Thank you for speaking out.

    • @Wraiven22
      @Wraiven22 10 місяців тому +29

      @@AbigailBeverlyHillzfor real, I know so little about the intersex community despite being LGBTQ myself! It was so cool to learn more from a group that’s so often brushed under the rug, thanks you for sharing with all of us!

    • @blindreck
      @blindreck 10 місяців тому +7

      Idk, in the scope of this conversation idk how it was relevant. This was a very theocratic episode and her existence really wasnt called to question.

    • @LadyyInsanee
      @LadyyInsanee 10 місяців тому +2

      Thas the point of the video, to educate N learn abt different mfs💯

  • @pauliusd6505
    @pauliusd6505 10 місяців тому +1316

    Kind of odd casting as 7/8 people are christian so of course the majority of the conversation will be surrounded around religion. Feel bad for Abigail, but she has held her own throughout the entire debate. Would love to have her on again, her voice is very important.

    • @alphauno6614
      @alphauno6614 10 місяців тому +22

      If you are talking about morality then religion will inevitably get involved.

    • @EveaGornall
      @EveaGornall 10 місяців тому +16

      Yes, would LOVE to see her more

    • @maverick4255
      @maverick4255 10 місяців тому +15

      ⁠@@alphauno6614It doesn’t need to be, and luckily the world is changing in that way.

    • @PWaves
      @PWaves 10 місяців тому +4

      These people are not blindly casted. She probably put forward that she has experienced a religious lifestyle before. She went to church and went to a catholic school lol

    • @laguapa2375
      @laguapa2375 9 місяців тому +7

      yeah, the whole convo is circular and goes nowhere

  • @kristinstefansdottir6258
    @kristinstefansdottir6258 2 місяці тому +121

    it was genuinely so painful for me to watch this, 90% of this video is these people quoting the bible and saying "hey lets talk about this for 2 hours" and the other 10% is discussing what the actual prompt was, and it was so rude and disrespectful when Rashad just blatantly said to Abigail's face that he just didn't recognize her as a person i was absolutely flabbergasted and disgusted by not just that part but this entire video

    • @JustMeMessingAround
      @JustMeMessingAround Місяць тому +4

      Ik. So many people use the Bible as if a book is going to help them win every argument and overcome everything. Some people don’t believe in that but it is always turned into that with hardcore religious people.

  • @no-zf3te
    @no-zf3te 8 місяців тому +1075

    This episode should be titled:
    - '8 people talk about christianity' 💀

    • @lupemaydon
      @lupemaydon 8 місяців тому +2

      😂😂😂😂

    • @happymonkey4340
      @happymonkey4340 7 місяців тому +8

      hellelujah!

    • @sjappiyah4071
      @sjappiyah4071 7 місяців тому +12

      Ong , even the prompts were religious talking about “heaven” and such…They should‘be just made this an episode on LGBTQ & Christianity

    • @kehlcassidy9562
      @kehlcassidy9562 5 місяців тому +20

      7 people talk about Christianity and 1 Abigail sits there feeling really awkward (but still totally slays!)

    • @MeowMeow-hn5qe
      @MeowMeow-hn5qe 3 місяці тому +6

      7 people, actually.😂 Our Queen Abigail was not talking about Christianity ❤

  • @smithsunleashed
    @smithsunleashed 10 місяців тому +2628

    Gilbert calling Rashad out for denying Abigails intersexuality is the best for me. I appreciate him for that

    • @rafael.almeida99
      @rafael.almeida99 10 місяців тому +17

      He was just sooo dramatic. Like, bro, chill.

    • @jhedjoardumago7691
      @jhedjoardumago7691 10 місяців тому +44

      You either have XX or XY. Abigail has XX with defect somewhere in her gene code. So she is a female with a defect. Same as a person who genetically cannot grow hair. It does not make them an egyptian cat lol

    • @_KungFuBarbie_
      @_KungFuBarbie_ 10 місяців тому +161

      @@jhedjoardumago7691Dude you literally described what intersex is (although badly) in that first part. Google is free, educate yourself

    • @gobsmr
      @gobsmr 10 місяців тому +90

      @@jhedjoardumago7691It’s insane how you perfectly explain what intersex is and why it’s real, but don’t understand it.

    • @jasminehoffman5409
      @jasminehoffman5409 10 місяців тому +8

      ​@@jhedjoardumago7691she was assigned male at birth it's the opposite of androgen insensitivity syndrome where a woman is born with XY Chromosomes.

  • @thatdeliagirl1491
    @thatdeliagirl1491 10 місяців тому +1407

    I love that an intersex person was on this panel.

    • @AbigailBeverlyHillz
      @AbigailBeverlyHillz 10 місяців тому +113

      Thank you so much! I was grateful to be there

    • @sobeliever1638
      @sobeliever1638 10 місяців тому +18

      Why? Does the exception make a rule?

    • @ivicnunez
      @ivicnunez 10 місяців тому +43

      @@sobeliever1638there are millions of intersex humans.

    • @XanaxMilf
      @XanaxMilf 10 місяців тому +30

      @@sobeliever1638 it’s funny people like you “well exceptions” are the type to use “well these people are only 1% of population” and think because that percentage has “1” it’s insignificant when percentages represent amounts, that 1% can represent 100 MILLION people and in fact, 1.60% of people are intersex, that percentage represents around 100 million people. That is literally an amount of people a large whole country.

    • @XZYZXYZXY-ni7bu
      @XZYZXYZXY-ni7bu 10 місяців тому

      @@sobeliever1638the whole science of biology is the so called science of exemptions so dont come here pointing at and acting like u know what you are talking about since you dont even own a mere knowledge of biochemistry. Coming from a BioChem Major, please educate yourself before you speak hatred. Biology is way WAY more complex than what you may think or have thought. Goodnight and also 1% of the world isnt a very small percentage if u think that its equal to about 80 million people.

  • @theycallmesunshine
    @theycallmesunshine 11 днів тому +8

    you can be gay and act like youre not gay, or you can be gay and embrace it. its never gonna change the fact that youre gay

  • @aishayassain8513
    @aishayassain8513 10 місяців тому +3679

    I'm genuinely shocked about how many ex-lgbt consistently use their religion as their only talking point. It's literally completely irrelevant if you don't follow christianity. I'm from the UK and idk whether it's a cultural difference but I feel like religion is never brought up this much surrounding political or social debates. America seems like an alternate universe to me

    • @Dakyta252
      @Dakyta252 10 місяців тому +447

      They do be talking like in a cult somehow ngl

    • @secularhumanistforever
      @secularhumanistforever 10 місяців тому +5

      @@Dakyta252 They are in the cult christianity and islam are both death cults as are all monotheistic religions and organized religions who require blind believe in fantasy fairytales that have zero facts to back them up and hate critical thinking and any deviation from their cult rhetoric.

    • @schneedgod
      @schneedgod 10 місяців тому +43

      @@secularhumanistforever Yup. Couldn't have said it better.

    • @BewilderedCitrus
      @BewilderedCitrus 10 місяців тому +3

      @@schneedgod what did they say? I can't see their comment.

    • @yolt6974
      @yolt6974 10 місяців тому +65

      They do sound like thy are at peace with themselves tho compared to the average person ngl

  • @kimberlee3170
    @kimberlee3170 10 місяців тому +1875

    Okay so what I’m really finding unfortunate is that all ‘ex-LGBTQIA+’ argue from a religious standpoint. In this case I don’t know why there was a Middle Ground episode when there obviously won’t be a middle ground because of different moral standpoints.

    • @tgr5312
      @tgr5312 10 місяців тому +55

      Religion is their moral basis, if you dont like the fact that their morality is different then yours, its your problem, not theirs.

    • @kimberlee3170
      @kimberlee3170 10 місяців тому +276

      @@tgr5312 That’s not what I’m arguing. Maybe read again. But I’m arguing is that this debate is completely useless because people won’t find middle ground because of arguing solely from their moral standpoints.

    • @woodennickel2772
      @woodennickel2772 10 місяців тому +117

      Exactly, it leaves no room for going forward in a conversation

    • @woodennickel2772
      @woodennickel2772 10 місяців тому +2

      @@tgr5312Yes because at 24:45 they’re totally debating something

    • @qwertpoo1
      @qwertpoo1 10 місяців тому +10

      I also think the notion that being gay occurs naturally is wrong. The only animals that do it with the same sex arent exclusively doing it with same sex and they are typically species with high sex drives like dolphins sheep beetles etc. its not naturally occurring it never was. Thats like saying Humans came up with the term homosexual because they were homo erectus. To answer your comment it seems like the only way out of the gay ideology is to adopt a more omnipotent one. Like belief in a higher power than yourself.

  • @jays1079
    @jays1079 8 місяців тому +2591

    This should be renamed Religion vs LGBTQ

    • @gp2779
      @gp2779 8 місяців тому

      More like Christianism vs LGBTQ
      Hindus, Buddhists, Jainists, the Bahai doesn’t even care if you’re LGBT.

    • @EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE3EEEEEEEEEE
      @EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE3EEEEEEEEEE 8 місяців тому +114

      i dissagree only becuase some of the lgbtq folks were religious

    • @awesomesaucy3549
      @awesomesaucy3549 8 місяців тому +11

      @@EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE3EEEEEEEEEEbut ultimately they chose religion

    • @jerushaoketch4293
      @jerushaoketch4293 8 місяців тому

      ikrrrrrrr
      @@EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE3EEEEEEEEEE

    • @KrayZJoy
      @KrayZJoy 8 місяців тому +85

      It's not really "religion," it's "Christianity." They didn't introduce Buddhism, Muslim, Jewish, or any other religion. They mentioned Baptist and Catholic. And Candace seems to be living under her own set of beliefs she's calling Christianity and it's not.

  • @thejustingf
    @thejustingf 2 місяці тому +138

    Rashad is so far in the closet he’s looking at Christmas presents and Easter eggs.

    • @eternallusion
      @eternallusion 2 місяці тому +6

      he's literally married to a woman with a baby

    • @eury8085
      @eury8085 Місяць тому +26

      @@eternallusionoh wow that totally confirms his sexuality 😱 he literally talks about his “temptations” in this video..straight people aren’t tempted by the same sex 😂

    • @iYuniico
      @iYuniico Місяць тому +2

      ​@eury8085 untrue, some straight people get ideas of homosexualilty more often than you think for a multitude of reasons. It could be due to influence from the media, what they consume online, or plain curiosity. Casing point homosexuality is to a degree a spectrum, but how far you're going to go with it (cross dressing, transitioning) is purely by choice. As a boy who's trying to embrace masculinity (former "femboy") , I would know.

    • @KimberlyOneLove
      @KimberlyOneLove Місяць тому

      Makes no sense. He was literally gay and proud and dressed like a woman and thinking about undergoing trans surgery... What purpose would it be to turn away from all that then do it all secretly?

    • @Satawolf
      @Satawolf Місяць тому +2

      What's crazy is he could just be bisexual. But he's probably still just gay and in the closet poor thing 😕

  • @natep6729
    @natep6729 10 місяців тому +3323

    Ex-LGBTQIA+ people took the phrase "delulu is the solulu" quite literally😂

    • @nicolasmagalhaeslussim2711
      @nicolasmagalhaeslussim2711 10 місяців тому +42

      Fr

    • @hii_kat
      @hii_kat 10 місяців тому +76

      @ville__stop commenting this on every comment… like no one cares

    • @CrustyBroBugs
      @CrustyBroBugs 10 місяців тому +20

      ​@ville__you don't have any content befr...

    • @jello7177
      @jello7177 10 місяців тому +1

      😂😂😂

    • @keezymiam696
      @keezymiam696 10 місяців тому +13

      @ville__ur actually so odd

  • @syd6126
    @syd6126 10 місяців тому +3160

    LOVE this blonde therapist. Great at catching the disrespect and reflecting it back on people.

    • @endthelogin
      @endthelogin 10 місяців тому +237

      Lol yup she catches them micro aggressions like a seasoned activist.

    • @Sourpatchk1dz
      @Sourpatchk1dz 10 місяців тому +161

      yes, she’s calm and collected while still being spiritually inclined to talk about her experiences

    • @jhedjoardumago7691
      @jhedjoardumago7691 10 місяців тому

      Who? The one who felt the holy spirit most while committing sin hated by the holy spirit? She's not even a Christian since her statement contradicts the Bible lol it makes her the least credible in the group.

    • @KeilyHD
      @KeilyHD 10 місяців тому +84

      Had to pause the video bc she was COOKING them and I was NOT ready and I couldn't see it!

    • @mario_judah_hater9816
      @mario_judah_hater9816 10 місяців тому

      ⁠​⁠​⁠@@KeilyHD lmao no. Her idea of Christianity is fabricated in her own head, something the Bible clearly says not to do (2 Timothy 4:3, deut. 4:2 and jeremiah 17:9). She literally said “prove me wrong about christianity without using the Bible” 32:56 how is this cooking? It’s stupidity.

  • @siggyd7287
    @siggyd7287 10 місяців тому +2219

    Abigail was a much-needed voice on this panel. Very frustrating watching people question the validity of her lived reality to her face, but I hope those who need to hear voices like hers can through this video.

    • @gabiwasabi2249
      @gabiwasabi2249 10 місяців тому

      +

    • @theCosmicQueen
      @theCosmicQueen 10 місяців тому +33

      she doesn't belong on this panel at all, since it's not about intersex people who have a different set of chromosomes. VERY different from homosexuality entirely.

    • @siggyd7287
      @siggyd7287 10 місяців тому +47

      Gay in the title is clearly being used as an umbrella term for the LGBTQ+ community, which Abigail is a member of and an important voice in.

    • @changfasalmwang7778
      @changfasalmwang7778 10 місяців тому +15

      Voice of what? She shouldn't be on the panel. She just there with a victim mentality

    • @siggyd7287
      @siggyd7287 10 місяців тому +42

      As a representative for intersex and trans people. The I in LGBTQIA+ stands for intersex. I’m done engaging in this conversation. We love you Abigail!!

  • @eduardocarneiro4386
    @eduardocarneiro4386 2 місяці тому +114

    Bro, this video make me 100% more atheist. Imagine being brainwashed to think that you can't be yourself

    • @LManson-g5n
      @LManson-g5n Місяць тому +5

      Imagine thinking that you were created randomly for no reason

    • @tvojkultata5240
      @tvojkultata5240 Місяць тому

      @@LManson-g5n Is your mother a Virgin Mary or something? I'm struggling to see your point of us not being created randomly for no reason

    • @eduardmanecuta5350
      @eduardmanecuta5350 Місяць тому

      So how does evolution explain homosexuality if all we do is in order to procreate according to it?

    • @kassandraaceves5198
      @kassandraaceves5198 Місяць тому +7

      ​@@eduardmanecuta5350How does evolution explain being ugly if it makes it harder to reproduce? Being sterile?
      Evolution is not an alive being who sayd "oh, this allows humans to reproduce, let's keep it. There are recessive gens. There are homosexuals who have and will keep reproducing.
      On the other hand, having homosexuals that adopt instead of having their own kids also helps humanity the same way it does go penguins.

    • @eduardmanecuta5350
      @eduardmanecuta5350 Місяць тому

      @@kassandraaceves5198 Woman search the best male to reproduce with acourding to evolutionists. So beauty equal with greater chance to reproduce. But that is beside the point. The point was that acourding to evolutionists all we do is in order to procreate.

  • @cmac7547
    @cmac7547 10 місяців тому +2769

    Abigail's mere existence destroys their arguments EVERY TIME

    • @rollitupmars
      @rollitupmars 10 місяців тому +217

      And they can’t stand and it…🤣

    • @rosiekuder6877
      @rosiekuder6877 10 місяців тому +150

      Exceptions are not the rule, it is extremely rare for people to be born that way. It makes less sense than parking minimums to try to base an abnormality with the norm. It is an abnormality for a reason, if there was no normal than nothing would be abnormal aka not the norm aka rare aka uncommon. It is like raining fish. Everytime it rains fish do not fall from the sky. It is a rare phenomenon that needs a certain amount of circumstances in place to happen. But it doesn't happen often.

    • @bakaflaka7722
      @bakaflaka7722 10 місяців тому +362

      @@rosiekuder6877being born intersex is as common as being born ginger. It is no where near “extremely rare”.

    • @Owen-zk3ji
      @Owen-zk3ji 10 місяців тому

      Intersex people's existence doesn't prove that homosexuality is moral. One does not follow the other

    • @JamieBleu
      @JamieBleu 10 місяців тому +88

      Her existence is like the missing puzzle piece. If human beings can be born any combination of intersex (XY with a girl body or XX with a man's body) how could anyone doubt that brain which is also part of DNA can be affected as well and someone can have an XY brain with an XX body and vice versa. It's as simple as 1+2 =3 vs 2+1=3. The opposite can be true as well.

  • @HankHillBentOver
    @HankHillBentOver 6 місяців тому +1239

    “XX that is male” said so confidently 😭 like bro doesn’t know basic biology

    • @once.upon.a.time.
      @once.upon.a.time. 5 місяців тому +48

      he said it as a question though because he didn't know 😭

    • @jphansen5299
      @jphansen5299 5 місяців тому +22

      I did a double take there. It was definitely a question he was making sure he was on the same page

    • @SingersHeart89
      @SingersHeart89 5 місяців тому +1

      And you don't have basic comprehension skills.

    • @lailaeman01
      @lailaeman01 5 місяців тому +12

      don't be dense he was asking her to verify. use your brain.

    • @HankHillBentOver
      @HankHillBentOver 5 місяців тому +29

      @@lailaeman01 No he didn't, you're trying to change the narrative, he was corrected immediately after

  • @ludrizyy
    @ludrizyy 10 місяців тому +2459

    Abigail’s facial expressions throughout this are oddly synched with mine 😭

    • @yogawitherin1978
      @yogawitherin1978 10 місяців тому +9

      yep!!

    • @quietsky1273
      @quietsky1273 10 місяців тому +48

      I literally had to pause and laugh every time, because how she felt was 100% accurate.

    • @MsAxolotl
      @MsAxolotl 9 місяців тому

      seemed like she was on crack

    • @xsara._.powellx
      @xsara._.powellx 9 місяців тому +7

      that's so real

    • @fiza5403
      @fiza5403 9 місяців тому +8

      she was my fav omg i felt heard

  • @anemo-tc7eq
    @anemo-tc7eq Місяць тому +23

    "being gay causes earthquakes" now ik someone finna believe this 😭

  • @JalenDRichards
    @JalenDRichards 2 місяці тому +1110

    The fact they hugged and said “it’s not personal” at the end is the WILDEST thing! It is clearly personal

    • @danieljohn4014
      @danieljohn4014 2 місяці тому +61

      No it's not? our battle isn't against flesh & blood but against spiritual matters, ideally nothing is personal

    • @carraphillips20
      @carraphillips20 2 місяці тому +25

      It’s really not. I can tell someone the truth no matter that truth & it not be personal

    • @benjaminmadrigalperez9010
      @benjaminmadrigalperez9010 2 місяці тому +7

      ​@@carraphillips20but it's not the truth though

    • @carraphillips20
      @carraphillips20 2 місяці тому +7

      @@benjaminmadrigalperez9010 that’s subjective

    • @nxfelibata2403
      @nxfelibata2403 2 місяці тому

      agreed

  • @CityBoiATX
    @CityBoiATX 6 місяців тому +1494

    The act of sex is a choice, Sexuality isn’t a choice, your attracted to who you’re attracted to.

    • @LuaLaustak
      @LuaLaustak 5 місяців тому +8

      Is it ok for someone to date the same sex as long as they don’t have sex?

    • @CityBoiATX
      @CityBoiATX 5 місяців тому +60

      @@LuaLaustak idc. Why, how or who. Why do you?

    • @LuaLaustak
      @LuaLaustak 5 місяців тому +14

      @@CityBoiATX no im asking for myself lol hahah Id never judge anyone for what they wanna do in bed im just fourteen and since seven I’ve liked girls and only girls as a girl so I’ve always hated myself for it and stuff so i just wanted to know dw

    • @CityBoiATX
      @CityBoiATX 5 місяців тому +34

      @@LuaLaustak if you are asking me for yourself then you’re asking the wrong person. Who you decide to love is none of my concern.

    • @littleflor2975
      @littleflor2975 5 місяців тому +13

      What about adults who are sexually attracted to children? What's going on there then?

  • @che_gozira
    @che_gozira 6 місяців тому +1235

    as a non-religious person, i don’t understand how you can simultaneously say you love and respect someone while believing that they’ve done something that warrants being tortured for eternity.

    • @valeriethechaotic
      @valeriethechaotic 6 місяців тому +88

      You can have a friend that you believe has done something wrong, they believe that should get the consequences for their actions. But you do respect them as a person, you do care about them but you don’t support that one aspect of a person.
      A lot of time I have friends who have parts of their personality I don’t like but that doesn’t mean I hate them as a person.

    • @ethandollarhide7943
      @ethandollarhide7943 6 місяців тому

      @@BorisVixen Are you admitting that you view Non Christian Groups as E*il?

    • @ibeamy
      @ibeamy 6 місяців тому +23

      It’s because we were created with free will. We have choices. We have the freedom to choose.

    • @katkitnaps
      @katkitnaps 6 місяців тому +19

      @@valeriethechaoticfalse equivalents

    • @Nadiahope7
      @Nadiahope7 6 місяців тому

      That's God's standards not our human fallen standards. He designed our bodies to connect to opposite gender to reproduce. Anything outside of that isn't his design but corruption including straight multiple partners BTW.

  • @jokariance
    @jokariance 2 місяці тому +42

    the fact that me and Abigail are having the same reaction to what other people are saying is so funnyy bc wtf HAHAHAHA

  • @jaskendal4421
    @jaskendal4421 9 місяців тому +840

    bein ex gay but being severely sassy is so hilarious

    • @vito.x
      @vito.x 8 місяців тому

      fr and they dress like a twink especially samuel

    • @BiggyBiggy-fs6jd
      @BiggyBiggy-fs6jd 8 місяців тому +32

      Not all sassy men are gay

    • @alex-jp7ys
      @alex-jp7ys 8 місяців тому +36

      @@BiggyBiggy-fs6jdyes they are

    • @yhanbhan
      @yhanbhan 8 місяців тому

      they are?????????????@@BiggyBiggy-fs6jd

    • @gl0ckfa1ry
      @gl0ckfa1ry 8 місяців тому +36

      ​@@alex-jp7ys that's a very shallow comment

  • @phaedrasrevenge5807
    @phaedrasrevenge5807 9 місяців тому +1144

    Rashad saying he loves Abigail and is friends with Abigail after saying she doesn’t exist is insane 💀

    • @kstevenson3504
      @kstevenson3504 9 місяців тому +55

      Don't distort his words. He is only saying she is not gender-fluid. She was still ONE GENDER or the other. As he sees it, she agreed. She is a female with some male parts.

    • @VlNCEY
      @VlNCEY 8 місяців тому

      @@kstevenson3504 he said "I don't believe in inter-sex people" and gender is a social construct. unlike your face which needs a re-construct

    • @ladylaurenia
      @ladylaurenia 8 місяців тому

      the opposite really. she's obviously male with some female aspects. @@kstevenson3504

    • @natara2384
      @natara2384 8 місяців тому +126

      ​@@kstevenson3504Out of all the other Ex-LGBTQIA panelists that I can understand, he seems to be the most ignorant & stubborn one of all. And blatantly denied the existence of intersexuality which has been proven to exist through medical science lol!

    • @BB25_25
      @BB25_25 8 місяців тому +24

      @@natara2384intersex are anomalies of the male or female sex categories. They might have characteristics of the opposite sex, but scientifically they are either male or female. They are not a third sex or both sexes. Abigail prefers to present as female over male or something else, bc there’s only two sexes.

  • @legorahma
    @legorahma 5 місяців тому +1068

    ironically, abigail truly has the patience of a saint.

    • @Scarface_445
      @Scarface_445 4 місяці тому +53

      To an extent. She kept rolling her eyes.
      But she handled it really well given a lot of the things that were said!

    • @RealAnimeBadGuy
      @RealAnimeBadGuy 4 місяці тому +73

      For real she was truly being disrespected and it was pretty disgusting

    • @abiStalli
      @abiStalli 4 місяці тому +41

      @@Scarface_445 her rolling her eyes is the literal depiction of her patience..

    • @nixpixl442
      @nixpixl442 4 місяці тому +33

      she had so much grace despite the fact they were literally denying/downplaying her existence to her face 😭😭

    • @elizabethchwakanowski5067
      @elizabethchwakanowski5067 4 місяці тому

      @@nixpixl442what grace?? He was a narcissistic vain shallow insecure participant, all he did was fix his hair and his dress every 2 seconds. Also he’s male impersonating a woman

  • @chokeonad
    @chokeonad Місяць тому +18

    SO MUCH ignorance on the ex-gay side it's frustrating

  • @chloetavares8652
    @chloetavares8652 5 місяців тому +902

    Rashad is fighting his desires so hard, those thoughts are the forefront of his head, even the therapist called out his situation.

    • @mattburton9250
      @mattburton9250 5 місяців тому +116

      I thought the same exact thing!! He seems so unhappy and discontent.

    • @RB-.-
      @RB-.- 5 місяців тому +86

      @@mattburton9250 really? he seemed the most enlightened and intelligent out of the group. it takes strength to break free from the woke cult

    • @mattburton9250
      @mattburton9250 5 місяців тому +216

      @@RB-.- Enlightened and Intelligent? He didn’t listen to a single thing anyone else said. Seemed quite the opposite, brainwashed and closed-minded.

    • @edmundsishange3608
      @edmundsishange3608 5 місяців тому +81

      @mattburton9250 he definitely needs help, he's in denial

    • @ElizaBeet3129
      @ElizaBeet3129 4 місяці тому +49

      I genuinely feel so bad for him. His eyes are filled with despair

  • @ItSmYbIrThdAyToMorRoW
    @ItSmYbIrThdAyToMorRoW 10 місяців тому +954

    Abigail is so amazing, the way that she shared her story so openly in order to help others feel accepted and bring awareness to the lives of intersex people.

    • @GilbertGTV
      @GilbertGTV 10 місяців тому +4

      Yes!! ❤❤

    • @marlonmoncrieffe0728
      @marlonmoncrieffe0728 10 місяців тому +4

      She is very charming and charismatic as well as smart.
      I hope the best for her!

    • @pelayo341
      @pelayo341 10 місяців тому

      most intersex people dont follow its agenda, they mostly follow gender critical thought

    • @dreamsdicc1817
      @dreamsdicc1817 10 місяців тому +1

      ​@@marlonmoncrieffe0728shes very ill-mannered and doesnt have empathy for ex-lgbtq people. She cant agree on anything they say when mentioning the bible unless the lgbtq people do, yet she doesnt believe in the bible

    • @beepinboopin6454
      @beepinboopin6454 10 місяців тому +3

      No such thing as “intersex”. It’s extremely rare and now EVERY trans person says they’re intersex. It’s not a thing.

  • @kiya0334
    @kiya0334 10 місяців тому +2294

    All the 4 LGBTQIA+ people are so patient, articulate and empathetic. And they respect the other side but won't hesitate to defend their side!

    • @GilbertGTV
      @GilbertGTV 10 місяців тому +88

      Thank you for seeing us!! 🙏🏼❤️

    • @tembelihlechifamba1790
      @tembelihlechifamba1790 10 місяців тому +83

      I disagree personally, we see what we want to see. Disagreement doesn't men someone was impatient

    • @eeee8489
      @eeee8489 10 місяців тому +7

      ​@@tembelihlechifamba1790but were they actually impatient or irrational?

    • @tembelihlechifamba1790
      @tembelihlechifamba1790 10 місяців тому +35

      @@eeee8489 I believe Gilbert was impatient. He was shouty

    • @ChrisMacal
      @ChrisMacal 10 місяців тому +15

      Our bias sees differently. I see the others as impatiently

  • @svteenostalgia
    @svteenostalgia 2 місяці тому +57

    if you "stop being lgbt" then you weren't lgbt to begin with

    • @CrayDreZ
      @CrayDreZ 2 місяці тому +8

      Not true at all. The power of the Holy Spirit is amazing to change you. These guys on the panel are examples of that.

    • @whtevercomesfrst
      @whtevercomesfrst 2 місяці тому +6

      @@CrayDreZAmen brother

    • @Anu-wf2mh
      @Anu-wf2mh 2 місяці тому +9

      ​@@CrayDreZnope either u are faking it or you are not lgbt to begin with..

    • @PeanutButter12145
      @PeanutButter12145 19 днів тому +1

      ​@@CrayDreZ well if it is then why am I still gay I had prayed for years and still not straight I'm gay

    • @peytongore8363
      @peytongore8363 3 дні тому

      ​@@CrayDreZ When speaking on religion you have to consider it exists in your head not everyone elses.

  • @zeldaeser3918
    @zeldaeser3918 4 місяці тому +377

    Abigail was serving looks that made this whole thing bearable 😂

  • @shenalhettiarachchi1806
    @shenalhettiarachchi1806 10 місяців тому +1465

    Not any of the ex-lgbt panelists disagreed when Brandan pointed out that they were just surpressing how they feel, that says a lot.

    • @fresh-eggs
      @fresh-eggs 10 місяців тому +39

      And that's because a person can be gay and still be a Christian at the same time, but they would also be a cafeteria Christian ie: A cherry picking bible believer who is gay. I am an Atheist and a secular humanist.

    • @jazm6154
      @jazm6154 10 місяців тому +147

      Ya they did, rashad said in the beginning that he doesn’t have those desires anymore. Don’t be fooled, Jubilee ended the debate that way for a reason

    • @katarinasalamonova9445
      @katarinasalamonova9445 10 місяців тому +20

      ​@@jazm6154exactly

    • @gobsmr
      @gobsmr 10 місяців тому +26

      But they literally did…

    • @adhisboucha295
      @adhisboucha295 10 місяців тому +33

      Tell me you don't understand post-production editing without telling me you don't understand post-production editing.

  • @roshanibang9717
    @roshanibang9717 3 місяці тому +845

    The whole debate was too religious to tolerate. It should have been a psychological and scientific debate.

    • @otahkeki1111
      @otahkeki1111 3 місяці тому

      There isn't much to say. Except that trans people are beung used by the plastic surgeons for gains

    • @lelununu
      @lelununu 2 місяці тому +60

      It’s not even about religion. It’s about the Bible!!

    • @hellosooon
      @hellosooon 2 місяці тому +42

      what can you expect with religious people

    • @hamzashahid7910
      @hamzashahid7910 2 місяці тому +29

      expecting scientific debate from religious people huh?

    • @wnuspl8776
      @wnuspl8776 2 місяці тому +20

      If your motive for becoming "ex gay" is because of religion, then why wouldn't you talk about that?

  • @Creative_Spirit_ab
    @Creative_Spirit_ab 13 днів тому +5

    I tried to do conversion therapy on myself for 10 years because I wasn't ready to come to terms with my sexuality. It honestly messed me up more than I thought it ever could.
    This year, I have finally come out to myself as a Lesbian and I'm actually really excited for the future now. I'm looking forward to dating people I actually want to date for a change.

  • @ramnado
    @ramnado 10 місяців тому +2083

    Kudos to the LGBT+ for their patience. I would’ve been like “there are 4,000 religions and they’re all made up” a minute into this conversation.

    • @DayleDiamond
      @DayleDiamond 10 місяців тому +149

      By not including those of us who don't believe in their religion or who won't tolerate lies in its name, Jubilee did us no favors.

    • @blacksh__p13_
      @blacksh__p13_ 10 місяців тому +37

      who wants to be respectful while people are discussing the intricate theology of the religion that defines a major part of their life when you can just plug your ears and yell at anyone that you disagree with

    • @DayleDiamond
      @DayleDiamond 10 місяців тому +124

      @@blacksh__p13_ Christians claim respect means silently listening to their evangelism. When's our time to talk?

    • @ramnado
      @ramnado 10 місяців тому +61

      @@DayleDiamond Exactly. It normalizes their fantasy. But I guess the focus was religion intersecting being gay and not religion intersecting reality as a whole.

    • @Wraiven22
      @Wraiven22 10 місяців тому +72

      These same hyperzealous Christians would be zealous Hindus if born in India, zealous Muslims if born in Iraq, etc. How conceited is it for ANYONE to believe that out of thousands of religions THEIR religion is the one true, real one. I can’t imagine living like that, never questioning anything.

  • @salmon1290
    @salmon1290 10 місяців тому +3130

    To the guy with a baby on the way: As a parent you MUST be prepared to love your child NO MATTER WHAT. If you cant love every part of your child you should not have them

    • @michellecortez38
      @michellecortez38 10 місяців тому +45

      @@quinnkrause6489that’s very true 🤔

    • @milkchocolate630
      @milkchocolate630 10 місяців тому +1

      If both parents are anti-lgbtq, which they most likely are, then they will teach their child what they believe. Therefore, the child will believe what the parents believe. The blond woman’s children are pro lgbt because she’s pro lgbt and that’s what she taught them at early age.

    • @worsttaste.3464
      @worsttaste.3464 10 місяців тому +116

      I am sure he will love the baby, but the relations to the baby's mother are questionable. Poor woman.

    • @blacksabbathmatters
      @blacksabbathmatters 9 місяців тому +17

      And if he doesnt emotionally or physically abuse that child they wont be gay.

    • @Marco-el2he
      @Marco-el2he 9 місяців тому +51

      @@blacksabbathmatters ...... reported

  • @JohnMcKinney-uw8qc
    @JohnMcKinney-uw8qc 10 місяців тому +1472

    The fact that the “ex-gay” people have literally no basis other than their religion really says it all

    • @blah914
      @blah914 10 місяців тому +156

      well, i suppose I could qualify as ex-gay, altho the term kinda gives me the ick. I dont think you can change your sexuality, nor can anyone change your sexuality, but I think *your sexuality* can change. Your preferences change, you evolve as a person. I'm a girl, I used to prefer women, now I'm no longer attracted to them at all. I didn't do anything. I didn't have an issue w my sexuality, my family didn't have an issue. it just changed 🤷‍♀️ and I'm just along for the ride

    • @JohnMcKinney-uw8qc
      @JohnMcKinney-uw8qc 10 місяців тому +96

      @@blah914 Very valid point. I should specify that I'm referring to people who willfully suppress sexuality.

    • @blah914
      @blah914 10 місяців тому +29

      @JohnMcKinney-uw8qc I was kinda disappointed in this episode tho, bc I was wondering more if my experience of just.... evolving, yknow, was common, not about ppl who suppress their sexuality, bc in my mind, suppressing it doesnt change it, it just conceals it (in a very unhealthy way) and that's a whole other thing 😔

    • @somethinggood9267
      @somethinggood9267 9 місяців тому +3

      What does it say exactly?

    • @kpopisntkpopping1615
      @kpopisntkpopping1615 9 місяців тому +14

      because that is the only reason tbh. they should have got people from other religions too

  • @miawillingham9865
    @miawillingham9865 2 місяці тому +75

    The brainwashed religious people actually blows my mind… like wtf…

    • @Timawima7
      @Timawima7 2 місяці тому +1

      Why do you say they are brain washed?

    • @miawillingham9865
      @miawillingham9865 2 місяці тому +7

      @@Timawima7 did you not watch the video?

    • @c.leighx
      @c.leighx 2 місяці тому

      ​@@miawillingham9865 so because people have differing views they are brainwashed in your eyes and only what you believe should be taken seriously?

    • @michaelplauche9901
      @michaelplauche9901 2 місяці тому

      @@c.leighx Preach, was about to comment the same time.

    • @miawillingham9865
      @miawillingham9865 2 місяці тому +1

      @@c.leighx I’m not saying religious people in general are brainwashed. I’m saying the people in the video are. It’s sad.

  • @pieckslovss4766
    @pieckslovss4766 10 місяців тому +1997

    As a Christian, saying that gender affirming surgery for intersex folks is wrong is super ignorant

    • @JOKER-bl4rd
      @JOKER-bl4rd 10 місяців тому

      You are a Sunday Christian

    • @pieckslovss4766
      @pieckslovss4766 10 місяців тому +200

      @ville__ i didn't say anything about being gay but sure jan

    • @mipsgacha
      @mipsgacha 10 місяців тому +115

      @ville__ If it was a choice everyone would be straight

    • @ZizYoubizHERE
      @ZizYoubizHERE 10 місяців тому +10

      ya but its on the same level as like.. a nose job. its cosmetic, therefor its not the same as trans. im agreeing with you btw lol.

    • @pieckslovss4766
      @pieckslovss4766 10 місяців тому

      @@mipsgacha real

  • @mariexx5762
    @mariexx5762 10 місяців тому +1421

    we need one of these without religious people arguing with religion, it‘s always the same discussion that leads nowhere

    • @Kiara-xh3he
      @Kiara-xh3he 10 місяців тому

      It literally leads to nowhere, Christianity is a “belief” system. There is no logical argument to be made, so it’s a wash

    • @Sejjjee
      @Sejjjee 10 місяців тому +45

      You’ve had plenty of these videos without religious people and for you to just ex out religious people is incredibly disgusting of you they are apart of society just like any one else please hush

    • @Saint.Alicia
      @Saint.Alicia 10 місяців тому +113

      I had the same thought but as soon as the discussion moves past religious arguments against gay/bi/trans identities there's really no rational or scientific arguments that hold water. Which is why the "ex-LGBTQIA" folks were so reliant on religious arguments alone

    • @12toro
      @12toro 10 місяців тому +32

      A huge portion of ex gay people are ex gay due to Christianity. We can't ignore them because it is so huge of a deal.

    • @danieljessekaplan7034
      @danieljessekaplan7034 10 місяців тому +87

      @@Sejjjeeit’s because their whole argument is that it’s a sin and then that’s the end of the conversation

  • @JabariToure94
    @JabariToure94 10 місяців тому +936

    You can tell Rashaad is hurting. No one is that preachy without burying alot of trauma.

    • @uscitizen3252
      @uscitizen3252 10 місяців тому +153

      I appreciate your empathetic observation. Honestly, it's true. He's a new Christian, husband and soon-to-be father and he's very young. I don't think he should've been on this panel. I think he'll regret it in years to come. I'm not convinced by his "transformation." It's way too new for him to come out swinging this hard especially when his experience is closer to the current LGBT than the ex-LGBT. We should've seen way more compassion from him to the current LGBT.

    • @shalini_sevani
      @shalini_sevani 10 місяців тому +162

      I feel really sorry for his wife. It's obvious that he is not really comfortable with his new found situation. He is repressing so much and so hard. It is bound to come out in unhealthy ways. It will either come out as cheating, leaving his wife, or (what is most worrying to me) he will take out his frustrations on his wife and kids.

    • @JesusSavesTheLostBrokenConfuse
      @JesusSavesTheLostBrokenConfuse 10 місяців тому

      @@uscitizen3252 That's just bad of you to assume things that hasnt happened and arent true. That's why you are dishonest and its bad for society what you are doing.

    • @JesusSavesTheLostBrokenConfuse
      @JesusSavesTheLostBrokenConfuse 10 місяців тому +26

      @@shalini_sevani Stop assuming you are a horrible person.

    • @thatsmynamesowhat2949
      @thatsmynamesowhat2949 10 місяців тому +28

      @@JesusSavesTheLostBrokenConfuseit’s amazing how they refuse to believe that being a Christian can change someone’s from being gay. Lol

  • @shaun8622
    @shaun8622 18 днів тому +8

    I couldnt imagine the strain of being a self-loathing gay person

  • @Lilskxrp
    @Lilskxrp 10 місяців тому +188

    Rashad definitely has internalised homophobia and some deep religious childhood trauma to be saying all that.... damn. He's not doing anyone a favour, in fact hes making it worse for his wife and child. just prolonging the inevitable

    • @designtutorials6475
      @designtutorials6475 10 місяців тому +39

      He is extremely immature

    • @rachelslumped3302
      @rachelslumped3302 10 місяців тому +25

      i feel incredibly sadden for his child if they ever turn out to be gay, intersex, or anything under the umbrella

    • @SNP2082
      @SNP2082 10 місяців тому +22

      Just from the way he talked and his body language he seemed unstable and troubled. The lgbt+ folk seemed to well put together and graceful in contrast.

    • @shinyab1709
      @shinyab1709 10 місяців тому +12

      @@designtutorials6475he’s very mature stop being bias everyone has an opinion

    • @jenshirah
      @jenshirah 10 місяців тому

      Exactly.

  • @djgulston
    @djgulston 10 місяців тому +1758

    Gilbert spoke extremely well. His points were clear and his logic was airtight. I love this man's intelligence and his empathy!

    • @Jesus_isRisen3
      @Jesus_isRisen3 10 місяців тому +46

      Except for the part where he said that the Bible doesn’t say that homosexuality is a sin

    • @darius4680
      @darius4680 10 місяців тому +34

      He literally kept cutting everyone off and had such a sassy tone bc people don’t agree with him

    • @tembelihlechifamba1790
      @tembelihlechifamba1790 10 місяців тому +21

      ​@@darius4680 definitely true Gilbert was aggressive

    • @Random-sk6hm
      @Random-sk6hm 10 місяців тому +20

      Agreed, I love his intelligence and logic. He was extremely well-spoken and a great addition to the panel.

    • @josiahgoes9633
      @josiahgoes9633 10 місяців тому +17

      Are you joking? He has no idea how to have adult conversations. He lacks the ability to hear anyone other than himself.

  • @va941
    @va941 11 днів тому +3

    Abigail be spitting STRAIGHT facts 💯💯💯

  • @scottadkinshill2493
    @scottadkinshill2493 8 місяців тому +903

    "Being gay can cause earthquakes." Maybe in the bedroom, but as far as actual earthquakes: no.

    • @joahjanzen
      @joahjanzen 8 місяців тому +8

      i think it was metaphorical

    • @female115
      @female115 7 місяців тому +7

      😂😂😂😂😂

    • @HolyDesolateLord
      @HolyDesolateLord 7 місяців тому +1

      The influence of satan, being gay just means you are a vessel for his lust. Disasters will follow those who worship hatred itself.

    • @HolyDesolateLord
      @HolyDesolateLord 7 місяців тому

      @@joahjanzen No, it is true.

    • @Lilfreshy505
      @Lilfreshy505 7 місяців тому +4

      😂😂

  • @toonbax3
    @toonbax3 10 місяців тому +1390

    This was painful to listen to. In any religion, if it makes you see people as evil just because of who they love, I pity them. There needs to be much more love in the world. Makes me so sad

    • @clarabourgeois8244
      @clarabourgeois8244 10 місяців тому +5

    • @torilawson2156
      @torilawson2156 10 місяців тому +5

      This!

    • @Bus7585
      @Bus7585 10 місяців тому +7

      Sinner

    • @badass_cumber
      @badass_cumber 10 місяців тому +47

      ​@@Bus7585religious fanatic

    • @yiuwingtung4226
      @yiuwingtung4226 10 місяців тому +30

      we don’t see people as evil…
      we are all sinned. so it doesn’t put christians on a pedestal. its just some of us who are opinionated and overradical.

  • @SeanLBGL
    @SeanLBGL 10 місяців тому +979

    This episode is crazy 😭 there’s just no way they think u can just stop being gay

    • @robostyle-650
      @robostyle-650 10 місяців тому +59

      You can though... everyone was straight at first then they became gay so what are you talking about?

    • @Ibrahim-vu6ms
      @Ibrahim-vu6ms 10 місяців тому +9

      Why not??!?

    • @davidmiksic1320
      @davidmiksic1320 10 місяців тому

      What are you talking about? How come people can stop being straight and become gay? Your comment makes no sense and youre obviously gay

    • @sicccccccc1
      @sicccccccc1 10 місяців тому

      ​@@Ibrahim-vu6msonce you take the D there ain't no way you aint gay anymore

    • @GiRR007
      @GiRR007 10 місяців тому +13

      You can if you want to. It goes either way. It's more based on how a person is brought up and taught as a kid.
      For example, male prisons.

  • @ellelins
    @ellelins 15 днів тому +4

    This should be a "lgbtq+ vs religious ex-lgbtq+" cause why is everything placed Christianity omg 😭😭