How to play Animals as Leaders Ectogenesis Double Bass Drum Groove | Prog Metal Drum Tutorials |
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- Опубліковано 1 кві 2018
- I teach you how to play the double bass drum groove from Animals as Leaders Ectogenesis, and the tricky dotted 32nd notes involved.
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#animalsasleaders #ectogenesis #doublebass
i laughed so hard the moment you said " holy shit "
There was some restraint there already. it was more like "HOLY FUCKING SHIT" when I saw the Matt Garstka's transcript LOL
By far one of the most underrated drummers of UA-cam. Keep up the great work man💪🏻🤘🏻
I definitely will Josh thanks for your huge compliment!
I wish u could find equal skilled players and just go touring the world, like garstka. Extremely underrated man
Touring the world playing with equally skilled players is not what I want to do. Touring the world teaching, now that I want to do some day. Thanks for your kind words though, much appreciated!
I don’t know why you aren’t more popular, because your tear downs of these crazy movements is amazing!
I think it's because progressive metal is such a niche genre and I only cater to a unique category of drummers and other musicians, maybe if prog continues to catch on in the world we'll become bigger :) I'm really heartened by your encouraging words though and I believe this family will grow a lot bigger in time to come !
man you are Chuck Norris in drums figures.
HAHAHA funniest comment I ever read. Thanks so much AAlex!
So it's even more difficult than I thought. Great.
Without you Matt would be a mystery 😂
Hahaha thank you Ritik :)
he has a transcription book lol
That's what I said in the video :)
Absolutely incredible!
You are such a good teacher. I could NEVER have figured this out by myself, but with this video it only took a few hours, thank you so much!
You're super kind. I'm happy you figured this one out!!
Amazing, inspiring work
Very well done!
Amazing content as always, seriously impressive stuff! Keep up the good work
Nice video as always!
This is amazong
Brilliantly Done
Thanks a lot!
Excellent! Thanks for posting.
My pleasure :)
Brilliant dude. Thank you
Thank you for watching and commenting :)
Dude, your videos are some of the best drumming videos I've seen on youtube. Please keep it up. I've learned so much from you. Please, please keep going. I honestly think you're going to achieve a huge fanbase within the next year or so. Don't ever stop doing what you're doing.
Nicely done!
Thanks James!
You always making great videos and explaining exactly what I would like to understand. Thanks Wei, you are excelent!
Haha then we are lucky to have the same taste in music Erick, thank you for watching my videos!
i always understood this as triplets. nice!
You are amazing, thank you so much for your time
Thank you so much for yours too :)
this channel is so great!
Thank you for the help!
The pleasure is mine!
Another great video!
Dude you're a beast! Every time I watch you videos, I learn more about what I'm hearing and the why of it. Love seeing the breakdown of Matt's work too!
Everytime I read your comments, I get more motivated to do what I do :) Thank you for following my work so closely J L. By the way what does J L stand for?
your videos are so good thank you wei!!
Hey thanks Abdul!
Great vid & playing man - impressive!
Thank you for the help. There were so many times I couldn’t figure out how the exercises translated. I could swear it made NO sense. I could play the first exercise right away but the second one made no sense. Took me a solid 3 hours just to figure it out, then another 3 to play it haha. Thank you!
Hahaha your perseverance paid off eventually :D Glad it helped!
@@ArtOfDrummingHQ without your interpretation of this, I’m not sure I could have ever applied it to anything else outside of this song. I would have just forced those groups of dotted 32nd’s and never understood them. Thank you so much!
My explanation has holes though, you can check this video made by Shaun Crowder for more of this concept. He explains it the best on UA-cam(from a drummer's perspective) ua-cam.com/video/xv05y31U1p4/v-deo.html
@@ArtOfDrummingHQ that is a great video too, however your explanation was plenty informative enough. You presented the concept, and I got to study a concept completely foreign to me! When I am forced to do the math and coordination myself, I actually grasp the concept. Rather than just watching a video to understand it quickly, then never applying it.
You ever give that pattern right before the breakdown a go with the "1 and a 2 and a 3" pattern on the ride? That one took me much longer haha. I had the feet right away, but that hand pattern took several days of 4-8 hour practice sessions for me to work it up over the kicks. I'm attempting this whole song now. Might be done in 2025 at this rate....lol
This actually helps me with the thumping part as well, thank you very much. You make excellent videos.
That's cool Wicken thank you!
Great as always!
Great to see you as always!
Nice bro... presentation is really good...loved it...I know, it's very difficult...you have done it👍👊
Drummer novice here. I loved how the jump from 88 to 118 brought out the groove of the song. The space between snare and cymbal was so sparse at the lower tempos that they sounded random, but at 118 they were pristine.
Yeah it's the same tempo as The Woven Web, I think AAL must feel most comfortable playing these patterns at 118bpm. Good of you to point it out :)
Awesome video! I never realized how complicated that section in ectogenesis was! Keep up the good work!
Me too before committing to do this, I'm learning along with you guys too as I'm dissecting these fantastic songs by fantastic bands, and once again thank you Isaac for your support!
Great video, you made it look so easy!
It certainly wasn't Luke but thanks!
Double bass is one of my weak points. You absolutely nailed this. There seems to a lot of things to consider when playing double bass from tension, to the weaker foot, latency, to gear. But really it's preference and practice. Would love to hear from the drumming community on this and any videos you can do with how you gained experience would be helpful
Hey Andy! I intend to do a video on double bass some time in the near future. Like you said it boils down to preference and practice. But I believe in quality over quantity and that comes from having limited amounts of time to practice and I believe everyone here has other daily commitments that sometimes takes more priority over our drum practice time. Hence yes I really want to do a video to share my experiences on this subject and how I went about it in my own unique way to make the best of my double bass practice.
Anyways fantastic question, cheers Andy!
One thing no one made very clear, but in hindsight seems pretty obvious, is double bass work especially at high speeds requires an intense amount of endurance and therefore motivation. I spent about a year training my feet for for an hour a day and eventually got to a point where I could strike my bass drum pad about 8 times per second per foot and hold that for 5 minutes cleanly. Then after a few days away from the kit (camping, socializing, whatever) I'd lose a significant amount of endurance and speed and have to retrain to gain it back.
Moving quickly and cleanly is going to require daily practice and maintenance. At the least you are going to want to dedicate 20 minutes a day just to maintain a tempo like that. As I wasn't in a hardcore metal band writing music that requires double bass work like that, I lost motivation to continue that practice and now have decided I would rather spend that time to work on other techniques (poly rhythms, odd times, etc.)
Mike Johnston has a great video for improving foot speed. ua-cam.com/video/Q9_MpVt8Eok/v-deo.html
To adapt this to your left foot, simply move your right hand to the ride and strike the bow and bell of the ride and let your left foot work the bass.
In fact, a quick search here on youtube for "Mike Johnston foot speed" brings up quite a few videos and techniques you can pretty easily modify to work your off-foot bass.
Hope all that offers some help. Good Luck!
Very cool vid! Gives even more perspective on how crazily good Matt Garstka is 😂
And the whole Animals as Leaders gang too, they wrote the riff after all, crazy folks hahaha, nice to see you around Yannick!
That was an excellent breakdown!
Thanks Shea!!
Dude, all your tutorial are pure gems. Everything is well organized, well explained. You can see all the work behind, either the playing/tutorial or the video editing, everything is on point ! I'm not even a drummer, but I compose some music, and seeing your tutorials are opening my mind ^^ ! Thank you !
That's great Isonomia, I'm just glad to be of help to non drummers even and thank you so much for checking out my videos :)
awesome ...
Thank you Ashish!
Great video man! I just got to this point of the song (after lots and lots of hours praticing on the parts before this one) and I had no idea how I had to play this part. This really helped, thanks a lot!
Whao I'm glad to be of help and I wish you all the best in covering this soon soon Boaz!
You rock man!
Absolutely excellent tutorial! Thank you for breaking this down and posting. I thought Garstka was utilizing doubles with his feet when i heard it.. really cleared it up.
It's my pleasure LSMG, glad you liked the video!
Damn that was awesome
Great job man .. I respect your dedication and hard work...
I respect you for recognizing that Nik and for that I believe that you are dedicated at your own endeavours too :)
Dope adam's apple.
I have tryed to play this part. Its insane to grasp the ideia in the beginning.
Hope this helps your understanding Anderson :)
Great video! You deserve more subs.
Thank you Cem!
This is impresive :o
Aw it's not man but thank you for thinking it is :))
That was incredible! I just pledged on your Patreon, you should have 10 times as many subscribers as you do. Your vids are always such high quality!
In one of your videos, can you go over the main riff of Salt + Charcoal, the new single by Plini? There's a portion (near 30 seconds in) where I'm sure the main riff is in quintuplets and I can't figure out the rhythm. I'd love if you could break it down!!
Welcome to my Patreon community Christian! I've always wanted to do some Plini again, let's chat more on Patreon!
I learn so much from your videos you're the shit
Haha I think the magic happens when you try to make shit happen, I'm just so glad you learn so much from my videos and that is one of my main aims :)
Dudeeeeee!! Whatttt!!
No wonder it’s quite long time since last episode,this one is so hard. Great job !
Thank you :)
Amazing video, maaan
Holy shit man, great channel!! Instantly subscribed ;)
Welcome to my channel Zair!!
Finally... Huge thanks!!!
My pleasure Leonar!
Wow...awesome explanation and demonstration! That is a pretty crazy pattern
Thank you Adam it is indeed beyond crazy, hope you're doing well with your own drumming endeavours!
You're welcome! keep up the good work
Wow this is amazing, I thought this sounded similar to the double bass patterns from The Woven Web but it's an entirely different beast. This is crazy technical, awesome video!
Oh you're right they've got their similiarites. It's an epic thumping section and the feet hertas are still there. Just add 2 sets of five stroke singles and the dotted 32nds and you've got this evolved beast haha! By the way thank you for your kind words Ana!
Great video! Thanks :)
Thanks for liking it :)
I love you lol. You're amazing.
Hahaha thanks buddy :)
sick!
great job dude well put together video as well, subbed my man ;)
Thanks for the sub Titration and welcome to my channel!
yeeeeee man thx
the pleasure is mine :)
When is your next video??? Love this channel and always look forward to the next.
Hey it drops next week :)
Wow
mind blowing :O
Yeah it still blows my own mind even now that I can play it haha :)
Holy crap this stuff blows my mind😂 I’m a few years away from this lmao. My left foot still flops like a fish trying to play double bass
Aaaah I have some exercises that might help with the left foot, probably in future videos hmmm, thanks for your input Samuel!
wow/ when i finish create my edrum/ i will patron you/ GUIS PLZ SUPPORT THIS MAN/
greaaat man!! make it more!!
Thanks Johny! more animals as leaders?
Wei Lung Wong yes, AAL and Tesseract))
So cool man! Just great :D
Hi again Jonas! how's your drumming going?
Pretty good now, thanks for asking! Auditioned for the "performing teacher study" bachelor at the university in Agder, Norway earlier this month, and was offered a spot! Really happy with that, theres quite a few applicants :D so now I can finally work on some fun stuff again, like this video! Looking forward to more, and still waiting for some Chon-breakdowns ;)
Well done man, sick video. You should analyze some Distorted Harmony songs, they have some ridiculous time signature changes, and a crisp sound. Very worth checking out.
Hmm thanks for the recommendation, I will check them out!
What. THe. FUCK. That was waaay over my head. Here I thought it was just a herta-like grouping that switches to triplets at the end of the phrase.
Yeah I thought it was sextuplets to quintuplets too before I got the transcription haha, man was I wrong.
Well....I mean the kick itself. Aren't dotted 32nds just another way to write 16th triplets? The kick is playing the same thing from when it's written as triplets to when it changes to dotted 32nds, right? It's just a better way to be able to write the stack accents in.
Oh dotted notes are not the same as triplets, there's quite a subtle difference and the dotted 32nd notes are slightly longer than 16th triplet notes . Therefore the decelerating effect you hear at the end when they switch from 3 16th note triplets to 8 dotted 32nds. You can prove it to yourself if you have a program/drum machine/metronome that can do that. Program a bar of 16th note triplets alongside a bar of dotted 32nds, they won't be in sync and you'll notice you can squeeze more 16th note triplets into the same bar. I hope that helps!
Wei Lung Wong yes I did notice after writing that comment and thinking about it more. I think I was just in denial. I didn't want to think about Matt's mastery over subdivisions haha.
mind blowb
Indeed it is pretty crazy
Are you kidding me? Your videos are awesome dude. Keep it up! :-)
Luckily for us we ain't kidding around :) Thanks Alonso!!!
um wow
hoooooooly shit a new lesson❤
hahahaha
Oh Man that was sick :D Did you just try it over and over again at lower speeds to be able to play it or did you use different foot exercise ? :)
YO Edrenn! I devised a few different exercises, all targeted at my weaknesses, the five stroke rolls, the exercises in this video to play the dotted 32nds more accurately and speed and endurance exercises, I still can't play this fast without warming up first for a good 10 minutes though.
Awesome lesson! Can you do the Huge ending fill in Mirrors by Jason Richardson and Luke holland? I've been stuck on that one for a while now
I'd love to but I'm being swarmed with requests and with limited time so I save requests for my Patreons as a reward for their extra support. Thanks for your compliment though :)
What a fuckin beast
1:55 Meshuggah - Challenge Accepted
holy shit
Can you do a lesson on "the glass bridge" by animals as leaders I've always wanted to know how to play something similar to this song
Would love to Alexis but due to the immense traffic of requests and limited time I only prioritize requests for my Patreons as a reward for their extra support. Thank you for showing interest in my videos though :)
Wei Lung Wong oh okay I understand thanks for the reply , I'm a big fan of your videos keep up the great work 👍
Maybe another patreon will request that or I can do something similar to that to help you out in the future, thanks for all your support!!!
this is the most confusing fucking thing i've ever seen. somehow even more respect for matt garska now.
He and Tosin and Javier are really nuts. They still confuse the heck out of me every time but in a magical way :)
Also, that transcription includes a 64th rest.. like wtf 😂
Yeah hahaha, I don't know why Matt did it that way, perhaps it's more correct notation wise? but it's easier to just write all dotted 32nds like in my transcription :)
Any idea on if/when the tutorial for Stranger Things's chorus parts will drop? :)
Oh I didn't realize that was still sort after so I had put Stranger Things aside to do these other videos, I'll get it out in 3 weeks time!
Wei Lung Wong Alright, thank you for your dedication! I recently became interested in learning the song because I haven't really tried a song that challenging yet and thought it would be lots of fun. Your videos are going to be a big help :D
That's cool and I wish you all the best in nailing this song, it truly is a lot of fun :)
Do you guys think some drum parts are just easier to play by ear than through sheet music. At least that happens to me sometimes.
Yeah it happens to me too :) Although sheet music can help you to understand things in a more mathematical and accurate light. But the main thing about sheet music for me is that it allows me not to have to memorize parts when I don't have the time.
What are those drum pedals called again?
Yo Oliver, those are the Pearl Demon Drive
Mierda, en mis tiempos tenias que tocar loops hasta que te saliera :v
Omg too hard..
I thought so too last year, but hey with any challenge we grow whether we succeed or not :)
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Dude....
Bro!
I am sure the explanation at the beginning made perfect sense but my nose started bleeding half way through...it might be uncorrelated.